Re: [lace] Bobbin lace commission

2011-04-19 Thread Clay Blackwell
Oops!!  It's a good thing Avital has been focused on Passover, because I 
sent yet another message with three generations of  historic background 
attached!  Sorry!!


Clay

On 4/18/2011 5:16 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:

While she indicates that she knows it will be expensive...


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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace commission

2011-04-19 Thread David C COLLYER

At 07:16 AM 19/04/2011, Clay Blackwell wrote:
While she indicates that she knows it will be 
expensive, I think she would be completely 
shocked to learn how long it would take to make 
what she wants...  even if several people are 
working on it, as was not at all unusual 
centuries ago..., and so the expense will be astronomical!


To provide an example for her, I recently 
finished a scarf 120cm X 15cm in Toender for an 
exhibition. I took the trouble to add up the 
hours as I went and the entire work took slightly 
more than 2200 hours. As these exhibits are for 
sale, I have had the audacity to put AUS $2000 on 
it - that's slightly less than $1 per hour's work 
(or pleasure as you see fit)!!


That equals US $ 2095 and GB £ 1288 and Euro $ 1469

If she's willing to pay at least double that rate, I'd be interested

David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace commission

2011-04-19 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Lorelei,
I wouldn't price it at less than $10/hour.  Therefore $22000.  What do dresses
by international designers cost nowadays?


I have no idea: haven't bought one in years
LOL
David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace commission

2011-04-18 Thread The Lace Bee
One has to commend her abition.  Because I'm still working I couldn't give the
time to this and for me to take time out to do this I doubt she, as a student,
could afford the cost.
 
Hopefully there is someone out there who could.
 
L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website:
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/

--- On Sun, 17/4/11, Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com wrote:


From: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com
Subject: [lace] Bobbin lace commission
To: Arachne lace@arachne.com
Cc: meiyan_t...@yahoo.com.hk
Date: Sunday, 17 April, 2011, 22:50


Dear Spiders

I have just received this from a fashion design student in London.  Is there
any one out able/willing to help her?  I have pointed out that BL is a time
consuming process which means that any commission will be expensive.

Brenda

 Dear Brenda,
 
 After I visited your webpage, I can feel your passion on lacemaking. I am
writing to ask if you make bobbin lace with specific designs.
 
 I am a MA Fashion Design and Technology student of London College of
Fashion. I am currently planning for my final MA collection. I really
appreciate the delicacy and subtlety of bobbin lace. I am interested in
applying bobbin lace into my designs. At the moment, I am developing graphic
images which can then be integrated into lace designs. Since I cannot do the
lace by myself, I am looking for any professional bobbin lacemakers with good
craftsmanship could plait the laces for me.
 
 So, do you make laces? Or, do you have any of your students are interested
the above matter?
 
 I am not asking for sponsorship, so I will pay for the handcrafts. I
sincerely hope that you could help. I am sure the outcomes would be amazing
and positive in promoting the aesthetics of bobbin lace.
 
 I am looking forwards to hearing from you. Thank you very much for your
attention!
 
 Best regards,
 May Tang
 Email: meiyan_t...@yahoo.com.hk


Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace commission

2011-04-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
While she indicates that she knows it will be expensive, I think she 
would be completely shocked to learn how long it would take to make what 
she wants...  even if several people are working on it, as was not at 
all unusual centuries ago..., and so the expense will be astronomical!


The other things that bother me relates to the time constraint...  she 
will have long since missed the deadline on her project by the time the 
lace is finished...  AND by then, the two-year surge of lace in fashion 
may be over, so her project will lack originality.


Clay

On 4/18/2011 4:25 PM, The Lace Bee wrote:

One has to commend her abition.  Because I'm still working I couldn't give the
time to this and for me to take time out to do this I doubt she, as a student,
could afford the cost.
  
Hopefully there is someone out there who could.
  
L


Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website:
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/

--- On Sun, 17/4/11, Brenda Paternosterpaternos...@appleshack.com  wrote:


From: Brenda Paternosterpaternos...@appleshack.com
Subject: [lace] Bobbin lace commission
To: Arachnelace@arachne.com
Cc: meiyan_t...@yahoo.com.hk
Date: Sunday, 17 April, 2011, 22:50


Dear Spiders

I have just received this from a fashion design student in London.  Is there
any one out able/willing to help her?  I have pointed out that BL is a time
consuming process which means that any commission will be expensive.

Brenda


Dear Brenda,
  
After I visited your webpage, I can feel your passion on lacemaking. I am

writing to ask if you make bobbin lace with specific designs.
  
I am a MA Fashion Design and Technology student of London College of

Fashion. I am currently planning for my final MA collection. I really
appreciate the delicacy and subtlety of bobbin lace. I am interested in
applying bobbin lace into my designs. At the moment, I am developing graphic
images which can then be integrated into lace designs. Since I cannot do the
lace by myself, I am looking for any professional bobbin lacemakers with good
craftsmanship could plait the laces for me.
  
So, do you make laces? Or, do you have any of your students are interested

the above matter?
  
I am not asking for sponsorship, so I will pay for the handcrafts. I

sincerely hope that you could help. I am sure the outcomes would be amazing
and positive in promoting the aesthetics of bobbin lace.
  
I am looking forwards to hearing from you. Thank you very much for your

attention!
  
Best regards,

May Tang
Email: meiyan_t...@yahoo.com.hk


Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace commission

2011-04-18 Thread Dmt11home
At the moment, I am developing graphic
images which can then be  integrated into lace designs
 
 
is the phrase that frightens me. First of all, she seems to have images in  
the plural. Secondly, they are not lace designs. This is  not surprising in 
 that she doesn't make or design lace, so she does not understand design  
considerations and technical issues in lace. Instead they are images that  
can be incorporated into lace designs, which implies that the maker of the  
commission will also have to devote considerable time and possess considerable 
 skill in designing the lace. I doubt that I would have the skills to 
design such  a piece, or pieces. Then, if I did, and I made it, I would 
probably 
have to make  it twice as the first attempt would reveal the mistakes I had 
made in designing  it. It could be a very long term project.
 
 
Devon

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