Re: [lace] Teaching lace.

2014-08-23 Thread nestalace . carol
Hi Kathleen and Spiders

I can agree whole-heartedly with the last paragraph.   I was talking at a Lace 
Day, when I was taking the Lace Circle goodies around, with a very respected 
tutor - she told me that whilst teaching, I shoud NEVER teach students how to 
start, and how to finish.  The reason for that is, that the students have to 
keep coming to classes if they can't start or finish, and that, in her words, 
'keeps bums on seats' and keeps the classes going!   ( I had previously said 
that one of my classes was being sadly depleted by people moving away, or 
finding other hobbies, and she told me this in an effort to be helpful, and 
keep my class numbers up - but I was horrified!)

However, take care, and may your pins never bend.

Carol - in North Norfolk, UK.
'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'

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From: Kathleen Harris ec...@cix.co.uk
To: 'lace' lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Teaching lace.

The worst teacher I have heard of was the one a friend of mine started with.
She did not let her students start or complete a piece themselves. She began
every piece, and finished every piece. My friend came out of that class able
to make lace but unable to move forward. Luckily she found a better teacher
and became an excellent lace maker - but only because she was determined and
passionate about lace.

Kathleen
Berkshire, UK



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Re: [lace] Teaching lace.

2014-08-23 Thread Sue Harvey
I was very disappointed at first when our classes folded because of numbers 
going down because they put the prices too high.  But it was a blessing in 
disguise, because before when I had a problem I just asked my tutor and she put 
me right, but with no teacher I had to sort out my own problems and found I was 
learning far more about lace by simply thinking harder about it instead of 
saying  how do you? 
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] Teaching lace.

2014-08-23 Thread Laceandbits
Well done Sue, but unfortunately not everyone is as positive and determined 
as you.  

I know that not all the people who were in my classes and who dropped out 
one or two at a time, over several price raises, are still making lace.  I am 
still seeing many of the ones who were able to hang in until the end, when 
the both price shot up and concessions were removed at the same time, but 
the ones who left earlier have mostly disappeared from my circle. 

I do agree with what you are saying though as I was originally self taught, 
and when I first went to classes I found it very strange when people just 
chatted while waiting for help, instead of trying to work out what to do.  I 
now see people monthly and it's a good compromise for all as they have to 
think for themselves a bit or they can't do anything for a long time, but if 
they are seriously stuck they know help is coming.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] Teaching lace - UK background checks

2013-07-29 Thread Sue Duckles
That'd be about right volunteers would have to pay themselves I can 
foresee people not bothering to volunteer at all!!  School crossing patrols for 
instance... only work 5 hours per week termtimes only and they'd have to 
pay for the check??  Can we really see that working?

Back down off soapbox

Sue (Lollipop Lady in North of UK)


On 29 Jul 2013, at 18:45, scotl...@aol.com wrote:

 I seem to remember it was said that people required a background check for
 each class/group taught in different locations.  This morning, in the church
 coffee lounge I was told the system has changed. 
 You can find out about it on:
 
 
 www.homeoffice.gov.uk/dbs

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Re: [lace] Teaching lace - UK background checks

2013-07-29 Thread scotlace
Volunteers do not pay now: I said  specifically 'no cost to volunteers'.
Employers pay for their employees.  My niece has just graduated in radiography
(with first class honours and student of the year prize; I'm so proud I have
to boast, given the problems she had) and is having a background check done
now.  If she was expected to pay for it I would have heard all about it,
believe me, as she is so hard up.  Her employing Health Board is footing the
bill.


In the early days of background checks my local council paid for them for
teachers, assistants, dinner ladies and crossing patrol people as well as for
us reading volunteers. I see no reason for that to have changed.  I assume the
self employed -e.g. private music teacher - pay for themselves.


Patricia in Wales



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Subject: Re: [lace] Teaching lace - UK background checks


That'd be about right volunteers would have to pay themselves I can
foresee people not bothering to volunteer at all!!  School crossing patrols
for
instance... only work 5 hours per week termtimes only and they'd have to
pay
for the check??  Can we really see that working?

Back down off soapbox

Sue (Lollipop Lady in North of UK)


On 29 Jul 2013, at 18:45, scotl...@aol.com wrote:

 I seem to remember it was said that people required a background check for
 each class/group taught in different locations.  This morning, in the
church
 coffee lounge I was told the system has changed.
 You can find out about it on:


 www.homeoffice.gov.uk/dbs

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Re: [lace] Teaching Lace to Children

2013-07-06 Thread Sue Duckles
Hello All

Our group here in East Yorkshire have been demonstrating lace today and are 
back again tomorrow, at a Garden Centre in Dunswell, just outside of Hull.  
This morning we had a lady who was very interested, and we're keeping our 
fingers crossed that she takes it further...  while she was chatting to 
Maureen, her son of around 14 was eyeing up the practice pillow after 
showing him what to do, we set him the challenge of finishing off the small 
piece of lace that was on there just a small 'fish' shape he finished 
it and was extremely proud to be able to take it home!!!   With any luck it 
will stay with him for the rest of his life, that he CAN do something like 
this!!!

Sue in a hot, sticky, East Yorkshire

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