Re: [lace] Thread size
Can't help with the clover (not a brand I've seen before), but I also found a silk thread that's not listed in Threads for Lace in my stash yesterday - Pipers twisted gloss silk 90/2; the threads Pipers' website suggests as equivalent are mostly in the 40-45 wraps/cm range so I'm trying it on a pattern sized for 40 w/cm (it's a tape lace so I can add extra pairs if necessary). Comes in a gorgeous range of colours - I've used it for bucks point in the past. Brenda - if you'd like a sample to do a test wrap reply to me privately and I'll post a length to you; if the launch of edition 6 is imminent I'll send it at the same time as my order. Beth Cheshire, NW England Janice wrote: I was just going through my stash and came across two spools of variegated silk that I cannot find in Brenda's book and wonder what size it is. Clover quilters silk thread. Size 8, but it does not seem thick enough to me to be an 8. Any ideas. Janice - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size
Can't help with the clover (not a brand I've seen before), The only Clover silk I’ve seen is size 50 which is 32 w/m. but I also found a silk thread that's not listed in Threads for Lace in my stash yesterday - Pipers twisted gloss silk 90/2; the threads Pipers' website suggests as equivalent are mostly in the 40-45 wraps/cm range so I'm trying it on a pattern sized for 40 w/cm (it's a tape lace so I can add extra pairs if necessary) Hmmm, 40-45 w/cm sounds a bit fine. They do a 90/2 silk gimp which is 30 w/cm In theory 90/2 =60/3, and whilst I haven’t got any Piper 60/3 listed there is 50/3 - 21 w/cm and 80/3 - 28 w/cm I would expect it to be more in the region of 25-30 w/cm But reeled silk is a very obliging thread, it will squash down in tight corners or spread out when it can. That makes it a good choice for laces like Idrija and Milanese. Brenda - if you'd like a sample to do a test wrap reply to me privately and I'll post a length to you; if the launch of edition 6 is imminent I'll send it at the same time as my order. As I haven’t seen either Pipers 90/2 or Clover Quilter’s silk no 8 samples of either would be very welcome. My postal address is still the same as in the front of all editions of Threads for Lace. Anything which reaches me by the end of January should get included in Ed6. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size
Yes, the red thread separating the little bundles means that it's a slip thread. So long as you have a complete bundle the number of small 'slips' indicates its thickness. 10 slip (From E Peat Son, Nottingham) measures 46 wraps/cm Brenda On 7 Feb 2014, at 09:34, Jeanette Fischer wrote: The skein is tied in ten separate little bundles with red thread. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size and type
And something else I just did, check the size the garment will take. Guess what neither one I had in mind will take the size of lace, :-( So as I still want to make it I will need to decide on a different piece of clothing with the area to take it. Its too nice to let go at this moment. Thank you Sue Sue T If you are using it on a piece of clothing which will be laundered, do make sure that whatever thread you choose is colour-fast Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com -Original Message- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size and type
Mouline is stranded cotton so they are possibly suggesting you use one strand, or more for gimps.  Quite a few of my Russian lace books have stranded thread pictured and it's what we were given to work with in Moscow. The easiest way is just to see which thread is the right size to fit x pairs in the braids.  It might be finer than you think, and if it's too thick the plaited fillings will look clumsy. Jacquie in Lincolnshire Original message From Sue su...@talktalk.net Date: 29/01/2014 13:24 (GMT+00:00) To Arachne lace@arachne.com Subject [lace] Thread size and type I am looking through a book of Russian Lace patterns and it mentions a thread called Mouline DMC cotton. It also mentions natural silk, linen and cotton can be used of appropriate thickness. Not sure I have found the right thing In Brendas magic book. I feel this might be an old type thread and would be interested to hear what threads are around now of similar thickness etc. Any help please, gratefully received. Sue T Dorset UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size and type
Mouline means stranded cotton, so DMC stranded embroidery cotton, Anchor stranded embroidery, any other brand ... they are all pretty similar. Brenda On 29 Jan 2014, at 13:24, Sue wrote: I am looking through a book of Russian Lace patterns and it mentions a thread called Mouline DMC cotton. It also mentions natural silk, linen and cotton can be used of appropriate thickness. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size and type
If you are using it on a piece of clothing which will be laundered, do make sure that whatever thread you choose is colour-fast Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com -Original Message- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size required please
I've not seen it but it would appear to be this, http://www.wawak.com/products/product.cfm/pid/12289/Gutermann-Mara-30-Top-Stitch-Button-Hole-Thread-Tex-100-328-yds-131/ although size 30 is Tex 100 and size 70 is Tex 40 http://oshmanbrothers.com/store/page1.html A bit more digging into the web, from the Guetermann website it appears to be an industrial thread https://www.guetermann.com/shop/en/view/content/Industry-Filter-Page?node=type=nonepn_p=2 then in the 'Product name' box select Mara and you get 12 different versions, but none of them are 200, for ticket number, article number, Tex or anything else! Are you sure it's 200-30 ? Brenda On 29 Jan 2014, at 19:32, Sue Duckles wrote: Anyone any idea what thickness MARA 200-30 is? We think it's a Gutermann thread but that doesn't help. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size required please
I've not seen it but it would appear to be this, http://www.wawak.com/products/product.cfm/pid/12289/Gutermann-Mara-30-Top-Stitch-Button-Hole-Thread-Tex-100-328-yds-131/ although size 30 is Tex 100 and size 70 is Tex 40 http://oshmanbrothers.com/store/page1.html A bit more digging into the web, from the Guetermann website it appears to be an industrial thread https://www.guetermann.com/shop/en/view/content/Industry-Filter-Page?node=type=nonepn_p=2 then in the 'Product name' box select Mara and you get 12 different versions, but none of them are 200, for ticket number, article number, Tex or anything else! Are you sure it's 200-30 ? Brenda On 29 Jan 2014, at 19:32, Sue Duckles wrote: Anyone any idea what thickness MARA 200-30 is? We think it's a Gutermann thread but that doesn't help. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size
As far as I can see from the DMC website DMC currently only make one linen thread - that's the Mouline linen floss which is in skeins just like skeins of cotton embroidery . I'm not sure what you mean by coning to use it in lace. http://www.strandedcotton.co.uk/ advertises DMC threads which the company has put into skeins themselves from large cones of the thread. That will be the same size in skeins or from the cone, so I guess the answer is Yes it is the same, but no I haven't seen any of it. Brenda On 12 Jul 2009, at 20:14, Miriam wrote: Hi spiders, I was wondering if the linen floss by DMC, which comes in skeins like the cotton embroidery floss is the same size when coning to use it in lace. Brenda have you tried it out? Thanks, Miriam - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Thread size
Hi Miriam and everyone I have tried the DMC linen floss for lace, and it is the same size as for using their cotton embroidery floss (I think you meant coming to use it for lace?). The linen floss is not as strong for lace perhaps because it has been softened for use in embroidery. It is ok though, but watch that it will separate 'with a sigh' when you least expect it to, when making bobbin lace. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Miriam mgid...@netvision.net.il wrote: I was wondering if the linen floss by DMC, which comes in skeins like the cotton embroidery floss is the same size when coning to use it in lace. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Thread Size
Hello Valerie 50/3 or 35/2 WHAT? It sounds like an indirect sizing - 50/3 should be similar thickness to 35/3 for a cotton count (cc) or a linen number (NeL), but without knowing the original suggested thread it's impossible to suggest an alternative. A 50/3 linen is very different to a 50/3 cotton, even without the brand differences. Brenda On 9 Apr 2006, at 07:50, Valerie Stewart wrote: Hi Everyone. I need to start a wedding present and the pricking calls for a 50/3 or 35/2. I don't have either size so what would be comparable. I have a lot of thread and would rather not order as I would like to start tomorrow. I have misplaced my thread chart and don't want to spend a week looking for it. ;). TIA Valerie in western Kansas __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread Size query
- Original Message - From: Deborah Metters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace Digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:43 PM Subject: [lace] Thread Size query Is this the book on thread sizes that was published privately in Britain, and has to be ordered from the author, and paid for in pounds sterling? If so, is there an easier way to obtain it? Yours, Dora I'm sorry to bother the list, but my copy of Brenda Paternoster's Threads for Lace book has disappeared into one of the many teetering stacks of books with which my flat is filled, and I'm scared to disturb them in case I get killed in the resulting avalanche and my housemate comes home to find me as a damp splodge on the carpet. .here - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread Size query
Books with legs!I guess you have to be pretty careful of those privately published British books! LOL Dora - Original Message - From: Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Thread Size query There is something very peculiar about this book, and I'm glad to find that it's not just my copy! It doesn't matter where I put it, when I go looking for it next, the book has walked off somewhere else. I spend my whole life searching in my study for it (VBG) Of course, it's gone walkabout again, which is why I can't answer the question you asked, Deborah, but I know someone else will! Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) --- Deborah Metters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry to bother the list, but my copy of Brenda Paternoster's Threads for Lace book has disappeared into one of the many teetering stacks of books with which my flat is filled, and I'm scared to disturb them in case I get killed in the resulting avalanche and my housemate comes home to find me as a damp splodge on the carpet. http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread Size query
Does Brenda qualify for a prize? As the writer/compiler of the first book that is so full of info' that it walks and hides that it could be called Alive surely deserves a medal! viv - Original Message - From: Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Thread Size query There is something very peculiar about this book, and I'm glad to find that it's not just my copy! It doesn't matter where I put it, when I go looking for it next, the book has walked off somewhere else. I spend my whole life searching in my study for it (VBG) Of course, it's gone walkabout again, which is why I can't answer the question you asked, Deborah, but I know someone else will! Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread Size query
Dear Deborah, I have made that pattern and worked it in DMC 50 successfully. It travelled with us to the Wedding of our eldest daughter in Windsor, Ontario, August 2001. Mary Carey Campbelltown, NSW, Australia _ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
