[lace-chat] Re: cheese allergy

2003-08-23 Thread BrambleLan
Tamara, did you ever try goat's- milk cheese?  Our son (now 20), has lactose 
intolerance, and no one could tell us this, despite having rounds of tests 
done when he was a mere toddler.  When we had dairy goats, he was able to drink 
the milk and eat cereal with milk with no trouble.  Now, he is on his own, and 
we no longer have goats.  He must limit his intake of dairy produsts or suffer 
the consequences...

Margaret in PA

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[lace-chat] Forest Fires, Frogs and Grammar

2003-08-23 Thread Maxine D
Hi, Gentle Spiders

We in N.Z. have not heard of the Canadian fires European ones yes, but not
the Canadian.  You are in our prayers.

We embroiderers in N.Z. "reverse stitch"..  something I am quite familiar
with at the moment :-(

Another grammar gripe of mine is the incorrect useage of to, too and two!

Maxine,
In N.Z. where spring has sprung again today, long may it last, despite the
weather forcaster's predictions.!

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[lace-chat] Forest Fires

2003-08-23 Thread W & N Lafferty
Our Australian news is also sadly lacking in news of the Canadian
bush fires - we got some coverage of the European ones, but to my
knowledge, no mention of Canada.  Even SBS, our multi-cultural
TV channel, which gives a full half our evening news WITHOUT
SPORT of international events (plus any really newsworthy Oz
stories) did not mention it.

You are in our hopes and prayers for rain.

Noelene in Cooma, Australia
where (hopefully) some people have been listening after last 
summer's fires and more backburning has been permitted this
winter - but not enough, according to some.
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[lace-chat] Forest Fires

2003-08-23 Thread Jean Nathan
Unfortunately, although we get a lot of world news both in newspapers and on
TV and radio, I get the impression that those reporting it think that once
they've reported any item for a few days, they won't bother anymore because
something else (usually quite trivial) has taken their interest. They've
reported fires in Europe for a couple of weeks, so that's fires finished
with.

I've just watched the late evening news, and quite frankly the only bit I
remember was about the 'Hutton Enquiry' into the apparent suicide of a
Ministry of Defence scientist who leaked information to the media on the
government's dossier persuading the UK to go to war with Iraq.  Just shows
how important all the rest was.

The news that the Hutton Enquiry, although it's not finished yet, has had
access to emails and correspondence between various government officials and
has published even confidential files on the Hutton Enquiry web site is
quite an event. The non-confidential files would normally only be released
30 years after the event, not less than a year. The confidential ones only
with bits blacked out.

I can't imagine what it must be like having fires like that. It's bad enough
when we get a heath fire near Poole and a couple of houses get a bit warm.
Evacuation and losing everything must be devastating to an extent I can't
imagine. My thoughts are with everyone affected.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] Frogs

2003-08-23 Thread Clay Blackwell
And that's true of embroidery as well...  I think most
needleworkers use the term!  Such a "chirpy" way to express
frustration!!

Clay

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> The knitter's frogs go "rip it, rip it, rip it..."
> and thus when a knitter says she is "frogging", she is
ripping out stitches.
>
> Susan Webster
> Canton, Ohio
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Re: [lace-chat] forest fires

2003-08-23 Thread Thurlow Weed
Yes, I noticed that today while reading the news at MSNBC.com.  There was a
lengthy article about it, and as I read, I couldn't help but wonder why it
hasn't been more newsworthy.  So many people being affected, fires so hot
that houses don't just burn, they actually explode; overall so much
devastation.  I recalled that though I had watched the evening news on TV
the night before, no mention was made of fires whatsoever.  And as long as
the fires have obviously been burning, I was quite surprised.  The European
heat wave has more coverage.  Now, lest I step onto a big soapbox here, I'll
get of the shoebox I've started with.  My thoughts and prayers are with all
those thousands of people who are now dealing with the loss of nearly
everything they own, and what a nightmarish ordeal it must be to rebuild
*everything* after such tragedy.  May God be with you and keep your lives
safe.

From: "rick &sharon"
Subject: [lace-chat] forest fires


> Amazing isn't it?  Last week we had around the clock coverage of the
blackout
> in Eastern Canada and the States.  Here in British Columbia we have the
worst
> forest fires going on in over 75 years..but we barely rate a footnote in
the
> news.  We have over 870 fires raging right now.  Forty thousand people
have
> been evacuated from their homes, and one complete subdivision in the city
of
> Kelowna has been destroyed, five others are now in danger too.  Is it any
> wonder that the people living in the Western part of the country feel
> alienated when this sort of thing is only noted in passing... and we're
still
> hearing about the blackout ad nauseum?  Sharon on Vancouver
Island...watching
> for fires with the rest of the Valley
>
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[lace-chat] Grammar again

2003-08-23 Thread Jean Nathan
There are always items from the newspapers on our local radio station every
morning. On Friday, one of the papers (don't know which) was carrying the
story that the hyphen is dead. There's now no longer any need to use it
because people mostly don't and it's become accepted that words like e-mail
and co-operation don't have to have a hyphen any more. Email I accept, but
to me cooperation is pronounced cperation with a long oo.

The presenter said that perhaps we should also get rid of the apostrophe as
very few people know how to use it. He'd been in an electircal store in the
hot weather, and there was a notice announcing "No fan's in stock". But I
think the best use of the apostrophe I ever saw was in the ice cream parlour
I worked in while at shool. It was run by an Italian gentleman and his wife,
and one day they ran out of ice cream. So he put a notice in the window "No
ice's cream". Cute.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Lace that lights up

2003-08-23 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  I see some of you got there but for those of you that didn't it's
actually www.beingseen.com/I didn't know about the slash.  I'll write to
lace and see who gets inspired .

Jane in Vermont, USA
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Re: [lace-chat] roo whistles?

2003-08-23 Thread jstavast
I don't know if this is the case in all states but in Utah if you kill a 
deer or other big game animal with your car on the road you have to 
pay the state the value of the animal which is around US$1000.

Jim
www.BeeUtahful.com


On 23 Aug 2003 at 13:19, Lynn Carpenter wrote:

"Ruth Budge"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>I think I can answer both those questions, even though I live in the
biggest
>city in Australia!
>
>In most cases, its the vehicle comes off worse in an encounter 
with a
kangaroo
>- -roos are often very heavy animals, and they're bouncing fast 
and hard
when
>they hit a car.

We don't have elk or kangaroos, just white-tailed deer, which are
relatively light, usually under 150 lbs.  But their fast gait is a leap:
when a deer leaps out of a ditch into the side or onto the hood of a 
car,
it's not unknown for the car to be totalled when the driver loses 
control.
Car-deer accidents having been going up as more people move into 
rural
Michigan, over a 1000 a year in our county.

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
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[lace-chat] Frogs

2003-08-23 Thread Webwalker
The knitter's frogs go "rip it, rip it, rip it..."
and thus when a knitter says she is "frogging", she is ripping out stitches.
Susan Webster
Canton, Ohio
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[lace-chat] forest fires

2003-08-23 Thread
Amazing isn't it?  Last week we had around the clock coverage of the blackout
in Eastern Canada and the States.  Here in British Columbia we have the worst
forest fires going on in over 75 years..but we barely rate a footnote in the
news.  We have over 870 fires raging right now.  Forty thousand people have
been evacuated from their homes, and one complete subdivision in the city of
Kelowna has been destroyed, five others are now in danger too.  Is it any
wonder that the people living in the Western part of the country feel
alienated when this sort of thing is only noted in passing... and we're still
hearing about the blackout ad nauseum?  Sharon on Vancouver Island...watching
for fires with the rest of the Valley

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Re: [lace-chat] roo whistles?

2003-08-23 Thread Lynn Carpenter
"Ruth Budge"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>I think I can answer both those questions, even though I live in the
biggest
>city in Australia!
>
>In most cases, its the vehicle comes off worse in an encounter with a
kangaroo
>- -roos are often very heavy animals, and they're bouncing fast and hard
when
>they hit a car.

We don't have elk or kangaroos, just white-tailed deer, which are
relatively light, usually under 150 lbs.  But their fast gait is a leap:
when a deer leaps out of a ditch into the side or onto the hood of a car,
it's not unknown for the car to be totalled when the driver loses control.
Car-deer accidents having been going up as more people move into rural
Michigan, over a 1000 a year in our county.

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
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[lace-chat] allergies

2003-08-23 Thread Lynn Carpenter
The mention of Band-Aid allergies reminds me of the time one of my brothers
was having trouble with a spot on his arm, which he covered with a
band-aid.  It did not seem to be going away for a long time, and he was
worried about what it might be.  Eventually I thought to mention to him
that I had had trouble with band-aid adhesive irritating my skin sometimes,
leaving a red, itchy patch.  Then he realized that it was mostly square,
like the band-aids (square with a small gauze dot) he was using.  He took
the band-aid off, left the spot alone for a couple of weeks, and it went
away entirely.

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com

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[lace-chat] GM

2003-08-23 Thread Jean Nathan
We know that eventually Monsanto will make us eat GM (or they'll try), but a
year or so the supermarkets started producing their own brands with GM
ingredients. There was such a public uproar, and foods contaning GM stuff
were boycotted by so many, that now the main supermarkets do not include any
GM ingredients in their own brands and producers proudly declare "Contains
no GM ingredients" on labels.  I only buy products which state this. Food
labelling is stringent - to the point of stupidity in some cases (dry
roasted peanuts "may contains nuts").

Our government's even coming to the conclusion that there's no benefit in
growing GM crops ( but I'm sure someone will change their minds for them).

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Forest Fires

2003-08-23 Thread F&RM Haddad
Hello all -

About six months ago we heard from Australians about their forest fires, and
even requests to pray for rain.

Now it's our turn.  Here in BC on Canada's west, there is a huge forest fire
burning out of control near Kelowna, which had been my home town for years
until about a year ago.  The latest is that 30,000 people, 1/3 of the
population, have been evacuated, with 8,000 or so on 1 hour evacuation
alert. Over 300 homes have been destroyed.  Last night they battled walls of
flames 100 meters (400 feet) high; because of the winds, the fire was
advancing in some areas at the rate of 100 meters per minute. The fire was
started by a lightning strike.

There is a website run by a radio station that has up-to-date, accurate
reporting, if anyone wants more info.
www.castanet.net

Prayers for rain most appreciated!

Rose-Marie in Abbotsford, BC
where we also need rain

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[lace-chat] Frogs

2003-08-23 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
Barbara in Rhode Island, US wrote:

> US frogs also go "ribbit ribbit"

Southern US frogs go "ribbbittt, ribbbittt, ribbbittt."That's anywhere South of the
Potomac River...((^_^))

Happy Croakkkinggg,
Betty Ann in Roanoke USA

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Re: [lace-chat] Food Allergies - how 'real' ?

2003-08-23 Thread Toni Hawryluk
> > - food 'additives'
> >
> > - plastic food containers leaching ?what? into the food
> >
> > - GE/GM *crap* poisoning foods that we were *used* to . . .

> I don't think it's quite as simple as that... I was told (way back in
my childhood) that allergies (food or otherwise) are genetic -- that we
pass them on, if not always in exactly the same form. If so, then they
spread like a weed (sorry, I can't remember the English term...
"geometrical progression"? when you have 1 in first generation, 2 in
the second, 4 in the third, etc?).
> Tamara

Genuine allergies have always existed
and have been passed on with other
characteristics . . . but allergies to food
as it had been *before* researchers
began modifying for various 'wanted'
characteristics were rare enough to be
worth 'publishing' . . .

But varieties of the food crops we *used*
to eat have 'gone extinct' along with
animals/birds in favor of what could stand
shipment . . . then warehousing/storage
took its toll so now we're eating plastic
along with our food . . . for the last few
years we've been eating GE/GM food,
too - soybeans, canola, corn, rice among
them . . . what are you thinking when
a man who has saved his own seed for
years to maintain those genes gets
hauled into court by horror-Monsanto
& kin because *their* s__t has blown
into and polluted his *healthy* food
but they are suing *him* for 'stealing'
their patented food' 

And who is tracking the allergies to food
that now includes pesticide *in its genes* ?

Toni in Seattle

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RE: [lace-chat] moose whistles???

2003-08-23 Thread Darlene Mulholland
We live in northern BC and the moose whistles really work well. WE have had
one deer bounce off our car since getting one but the deer was not hurt.

Moose really can move quickly and although they look ungainly they are
amazingly agile. Often on our bush walks we have seen them and they do move
beautifully. We had a part border collie dog and he loved to *herd*
anything. On one bush walk in the winter he kindly herded a moose for me. As
the trail was too narrow for both of us, I dove into the snow bank and
stayed behind a tree while the huge moose went past like an out of control
freight train.

Now, I have a lab who watches moose and bears but doesn't move a muscle. You
just have to look in her line of vision to see what is so interesting. She
has even seen wolves and totally ignores them when we have been yipped and
howled at. I insisted that we leave rather quickly and re-directed our walks
for quite sometime after that.

Darlene Mulholland
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Re: [lace-chat] Frogs

2003-08-23 Thread BAChojnacki
In a message dated 8/23/03 4:25:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< UK frogs go "ribbit ribbit" in a croaky voice. >>

US frogs also go "ribbit ribbit"

Barbara In Rhode Island, US where we have a lovely morning

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Re: [lace-chat] moose whistles???

2003-08-23 Thread Motherchaos
From: "Bev Walker"
| I dunno if the deer whistle would work especially if the moose was running
| headlong full steam ahead (akin to a steam locomotive) - how fast could
| one turn, at the sound of an ultra high pitch?! It would be better than
| nothing though (I guess? gee those moose creatures are BIG).
|

They tend not to run much anywhereusually they are quite happy just
standing in the middle of a dark road (the snow tends to get deep enough
that they find the roads much easier to travel...)
I once heard the best description ever for an Alaskan moose. Mac trucks
(semis) with antlers.

Mikki
Fairbanks Alaska

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[lace-chat] Re: French Secret Pal

2003-08-23 Thread harlequin.lace
  - Original Message -
  From: harlequin.lace
  To:

  Subject: French Secret Pal


  Hi and thank you very much for the parcel of goodies.
  I was feeling rather down in the dumps as I have not been feeling very well,
so when I opened your parcel it really cheered me up.
  The delightful little frog will take pride or place amongst the frogs I have
in my kitchen, and will be a constant reminder of my very special friend in
France.
  I will try to find a special picture to go into the pretty frame, but
perhaps you will send a photograph of yourself in the last parcel, then I will
certainly have that special picture.
  Is your cat finding somewhere cool to lay in the heat? Our cat manages to
find a cool spot or takes over the chair where the fan is pointing.
  Once again thank you for cheering me up with your thoughtful gifts
  Happy lacemaking
  Sue

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RE: [lace-chat] Food Allergies

2003-08-23 Thread Jean Peach
People have had allergies for generations, my MIL if she was alive
now would be 109, allergic to dairy products, DH who is 67 is allergic
to milk, is able to eat one egg a week. Youngest daughter is allergic to
more dairy products than
either of her father or grandmother. Plus can not drink wine.

Now I have always been fine could eat anything,
suddenly I am allergic to white flour
only in the UK, we have found out this is because of the additives
that are in white bread but not brown bread, this was started during the
war when we were on rations for many years.  One problem we have
here is that if an additive to a product is below a certain percentage
of the product being sold the producer of the product does not have
to put this on the packaging.  I recall a young teenager a couple
of years ago went to the EU court to change this rule that all
additives should be on the packaging.

DH suddenly found he had a severe allergy problem, had to take an
epipen sp around with him all the time, his whole body would swell
up, throat, lips face.  We had not a clue the cause. I had to argue
with our doctor to allow my DH to have an allergy test, we were
told not on the National Health, even privately which we did in
the end was against our doctors wishes, we then found out that DH
was allergic to one of his heart tablets, he came off this tablet,
but  was told  he had to wait six months to see the heart specialist, 2 days
later DH got a phone call to stop taking another heart tablet made by
Bayer, seems 51 people in the States have died taking this particular
tablet, 1100 are taking  Bayer to court in the states.  Three days after
coming off both tablets DH had a severe heart attack. On the way to
hospital,
DH died as was brought back by the paramedics,
this was on the way to Reading, the poor ambulance driver felt sorry
for him as he kept being told different hospitals to take DH to.
We asked DH what it was like in heaven, he said that  it
was the harp lessons, could not take to them.  DH has now two blocked
arteries that meant the base of his heart is dead so has learnt to
live on half power.  If only the doctors in this country would allow
patients or suggest rather patients have allergy tests.  Also it was
over 8 weeks for an angigram sp told it would be another six months
to get treatment, has another heart attack three months later.  He
is too old to have a new heart.

I took my grandson to a Thai restaurant this week.  He had never had
Thai food before, all I have got since we have been back home when can we
take granddad to the Thai restaurant.  I asked him if he would go
to MacDonald's, no I prefer Thai food.

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[lace-chat] Frogs

2003-08-23 Thread Jean Nathan
UK frogs go "ribbit ribbit" in a croaky voice.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] Literate frog?

2003-08-23 Thread dominique
loved it but  utterly impossible to translate in french . here frogs go  
croa croa ( if i remember right. i'm never sure whether they go croa or coa 
. seems to me crows go coa but well )

and  what do frogs say in other countries ?

dominique from Paris

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[2003/08/22 23:42]




> 
> The hen walked down to the local pond.  She dumped the
> book on a lily paid in front of a frog, who said
> "Readit, readit".
> 

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[lace-chat] Lights that light up

2003-08-23 Thread Jean Nathan
There's a link to FAQs on www.beingseen.com , one of which answers the
question on power:

Can I use common batteries, solar cells, and regular household current?


Yes, the inverter drivers (100 Volts, 1600Hz) for each length of EL cable
can be supported by common batteries to give a bright neon glow.

3V-6V

9V

Automotive 12 volt systems.

Regular household current can be used without an inverter driver to give a
dimmer neon glow (~15% as bright).


- if anyone understands what an 'inverter' is. I didn't go further than this
one question, so the answer is probably on the website somewhere.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Irish lace book

2003-08-23 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I have a 2nd hand copy of this book, Jenny.
It should have a number of pattern sheets in pockets at either end of the
book.
It shows a lot of filling stitches , but many are on diamond net. They are
shown at a distance, and close-up, so you can see how to work them, and what
the finished look is like.
There are some pretty patterns.
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace-chat] Re: roo whistles

2003-08-23 Thread Barbara Stokes
A bit difficult to do a randomised control study on the roo whistles!
As to food allergies etc, how many of these people with allergies were
not breast fed?  Considering since 2nd World War the incidence of
formula feeding skyrocketed until the 70's, it only takes one formula
feed to predispose to allergies.  Comment from midwife/lactation
consultant, now in Emergency where lots of toddlers are coming in with
ear/chest/gastro problems are all formula fed. Our infant/children's
health is dreadful - 5year old (school age), asthma, weight 40kg takes a
bottle of cordial to bed each night, teeth are rotted several have been
removed!
Local Shows are on in the district, my DH is at Condobolin Show to-day,
playing bagpipes.  He was given strict instructions to look at the
needlework section as there is a wonderful young lacemaker out there.
Unfortunately as I am on night duty, needed to sleep.  Parkes's Show is
next week, we have a lace section:  one only so I try to keep it viable
by at least one entry!
I enjoyed waking up to a rainy day!
Barbara, Parkes, Australia

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