Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
Janice In this country we can no longer pay by cheque as our bank cards no longer serve as cheque guarantee cards. At one point the banks wanted to phase cheques out altogether but there was so much opposition they had to abandon the idea v- for the present, at least. When I use mail order I always use cheques and so I'm pleased I can continue to do so. I'm with Agnes: all shopping is a bore but I would add bookshops to her list of non chore shopping/browsing. Patricia in Wales -Original Message- From: Janice Blair We don't have the scanner thingy over here yet, at least not in this area, but we do have self checking. I really dislike it when I buy produce and have to look things up that don't have barcodes. I usually pay with a check which also slows things down as I then have to wait for the person who is in charge of at least 6 scanners to get to me and accept the check. I like to treat the supermarket as my bank and usually get some cash change for pocket money. Sometimes there is only one normal check-out open with a regular cashier but if I have veg I stand in line. Apart from Aldi, we still can get bags if we forget to bring our own. Shopping is becoming a real chore these days From: The Lace Bee To: Chat Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 3:53:58 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Green thing My local Waitrose has refined this system to the point of perfection. I like to use the self scan handset because I know exactly what I've spent before I get to the checkout and that is the ONLY reason I go through this torture when I go shopping. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] supermarkets
Gosh! Over here "Down under," we can use the self-serve if we wish, but at the 'normal" checkouts, the shop assistant packs the bags as she scans the items. We take our own bags, and hand them to her, and she fills them. We ask for meat to be put in a plastic bag rather than in our fabric bag, in case it leaks, and we like the bread in one too, so it does not get crumpled up! Not a problem. In Aldi we have to take our own bags, and pack ourselves, but not in other supermarkets ( -- well, Not in Melbourne anyway. I believe South Australia has banned plastic bags, but I am not 100% sure of that. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Green thing
My favorite is when you hand them your bags, and they still put your groceries in the plastic bags, then put the bagged groceries in your bags. AARRGGHHH!!! The other fun thing is the self-check out at the local grocery...it has a weight sensor in the bagging section, and when you put one of your bags down it tells you to remove the item from the bag and run it through the scanner. SIGH Peg In unseasonably warm Fairview Park OH...60F today...is it really January? To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
What Agnes forgets to mention is that she can be persuaded to go clothes shopping provided it's interspersed with lots of beads!! LOL Sue in East Yorkshire On 31 Jan 2012, at 23:12, Agnes Boddington wrote: > What do you mean: Shopping is becoming a real chore ..? > I loathe shopping, shopping for food, shopping for clothes or shoes etc. > The only shopping I like is craft stuff shopping! > Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
What do you mean: Shopping is becoming a real chore ..? I loathe shopping, shopping for food, shopping for clothes or shoes etc. The only shopping I like is craft stuff shopping! Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK to bring our own. Shopping is becoming a real chore these days. Janice To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
RE: [lace-chat] Green thing
I don't know why the supermarket staff remind you that there are self service tills, don't the silly people realise that those same machines will one day put them out of a job because when the powers to be find out that everyone is at last using them (by the way I will not in principal) they will bid them all farewell. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
We don't have the scanner thingy over here yet, at least not in this area, but we do have self checking. I really dislike it when I buy produce and have to look things up that don't have barcodes. I usually pay with a check which also slows things down as I then have to wait for the person who is in charge of at least 6 scanners to get to me and accept the check. I like to treat the supermarket as my bank and usually get some cash change for pocket money. Sometimes there is only one normal check-out open with a regular cashier but if I have veg I stand in line. Apart from Aldi, we still can get bags if we forget to bring our own. Shopping is becoming a real chore these days. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA where we had a small earthquake last evening. I heard a noise and DH said it was the tv. Wrong! I dislike surround sound, especially when alone. I dislike hearing a noise from the opposite end of the room from the tv. Very disconcerting, but men must have their toys. Not heard of any damage. www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org From: The Lace Bee To: Chat Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 3:53:58 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Green thing My local Waitrose has refined this system to the point of perfection. I like to use the self scan handset because I know exactly what I've spent before I get to the checkout and that is the ONLY reason I go through this torture when I go shopping. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] The green thing
Liz said: "Here was the girl on the checkout - not your normal girl on the checkout, but an Oxford University student paying their way through uni by slumming it in Sainsburys as she looked down her nose at me and said; 'Why haven't you got recyclable bags to save the environment'." My answer to a similar comment in my local Morrisons was, "I have plenty of recyclable bags for when I go to Lidl, but I can't use those for rubbish in my wheelie bin. When Morrisons start selling bio-degradable pedal bin liners, I'll buy them and use them for my rubbish. While they only sell not-degradable ones, I'll have the free ones from the checkout, thank you very much." All of a sudden he was on my side, telling me he had suggested that very thing. And I do check at intervals to see if they have them yet. Jacquie in Lincolnshire To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
Or you could shop on-line and have it delivered with four giant size tins of dog food in one carrier bag and just a tube of toothpaste in another! It never ceases to amaze me why they can't even up the distribution between the plastic carrier bags. Brenda On 31 Jan 2012, at 18:45, Jean Nathan wrote: > You can ask to have someone pack for you if you want eggs at the bottom of > your bag underneath the potatoes. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
My local Waitrose has refined this system to the point of perfection. I like to use the self scan handset because I know exactly what I've spent before I get to the checkout and that is the ONLY reason I go through this torture when I go shopping. I go in, I put my card through the swipe machine and it shows me a handset to scan the goods myself. I try to take the handset and it jams and locks it's self it. I now can't swipe my card again and it won't let me have the handset. I go to customer service and they reset my id. I go back again with the nice man from customer service, he swipes my card and ... the handset jams. He is now really embarrashed and goes and clears my card again. He comes back and just hands me a handset from his desk. I go round the shop with my list and bags. I scan products and I put them straight into my bag and if there is an offer it beeps and me like a frustrated beepy thing and gets upset because I don't want 56 packets of dog food to go with my cat biscuits. After about an hour, carefully going up each aisle in turn and marking off my list and getting into fights with the other customers over the last pie or dish cloth (they are civilised in Waitrose but can be vicous when cornered those John Lewis women) I go to the checkout. Because I am strange and believe in paying cash I have to wait in line at the customer service (rather than scan a finish bar code, hand over set and leave - it charges your card). After I have stood there about 20 minutes (thinking about my defrosting icecream and frozen scallops) listening to people's weird things they need help with they scan the final bar code and say 'just a minute while I close your shopping and get your total' ... followed by the frown and the fatal words, 'ah it's saying that you need to rescan to check your shopping'. So, having carefull, scanned and packed my shopping in the bags I want it, has to be taken out and rescanned and repacked. Everytime it has come to exactly the same total as I had it. So ask from the bottom of my heart ... WHY WAITROSE WHY ME? Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ From: Jean Nathan One supermarket uses the first of the above or they have handsets which you use if you've registered a credit or debit card. With that, you put your bags in the trolley, take the goods off the shelves, scan them with the handset, put the goods in your bags in an organised way and finalise at a separate checkout. You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from the trolley to your car boot. We used to be served - now we serve ourselves. We always had the goods checked out - now they want us to do it ourselves. How long before they start expecting us the fill the shelves as well? To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Green thing
When we moved to sunny Oxfordshire I made the mistake of dropping into my local Sainsbury's (Kidlington) on the way home from dropping hubby at the museum. As this not a planned stop I did not have my hoard of eco bags with me (I have a whole cupboard of the things including my cool bags - I mean the ones that keep food cool not just the ones that look cool (such as my Fortnum's bag, Eden Project etc) As it was the biggest supermarket I'd seen since I left the joys of Leicester (if you've been to Kidlington you will know it's not that big but compared to the 3m Tescos in Bicester it's big (about a 1/3 the size of the Sainsbury's in Leicester and a similar size to my Mum's Waitrose in Surrey, mind you, the Asda in Milton Keynes takes 3 hours to do properly as it's the biggest supermarket in the south east of england - it's bigger than IKEA next door) as I was saying, as it was the biggest supermarket I'd seen in some months I grabbed a trolley and went for that joyous sunday stroll up and down every single aisle. Needless to say I found things that I didn't even know I needed and strolled up to the till in order to pay. I carefully placed my items on the till in the perscribed order that I was taught as a trained Sainsbury's bag packer (ok I trained when I was 18 but it's stayed with me) and as I reached the till realised that there was no bags on show. I said to the girl on the counter 'any chance of some bags for packing' and it was then that I realised that I had moved to a whole new world when you live in Oxfordshire. Here was the girl on the checkout - not your normal girl on the checkout, but an Oxford University student paying their way through uni by slumming it in Sainsburys as she looked down her nose at me and said; 'Why haven't you got recyclable bags to save the environment'. It was as I started to defend my unplanned shopping that I thought .. S*d that. What's it to you? I stopped my self short from apologising (apparantly according to DH it's because I'm British and from Surry that I have to apologise to everyone ... don't even mention when I got pulled by the German police for having my motorway fogs on when I was driving in fog on a suburban road ... I started the entire conversation as I got out the car with the words ...'I'm sorry, I'm English' ... I don't know if they thought I meant that I was sorry and my excuse was being english or I was sorry that I was english. (Don't mention the war ... I did but I think I got away with it)) I just said to her, 'Is it a problem that I need to have bags?' She hurumphed and begrudingly gave me 2. Each time I asked for more she gave me one more bag. As this was slowing down the whole packing thing (and I'm good at packing and can do it as fast as the guy in Lidl throws the food at me and that's fast) the line behind me were starting to mutter. I turned to them and said; 'I didn't bring any bags with me so I'm only allowed one at a time to fill and it's taking me longer ... anyone have a problem with that?' The muttering continued so I turned back to the girl and said 'apparantly they think you should let me have more than one bag at a time!' She almost threw the next 4 at me. Strange but I haven't seen her since. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ From: Joy Beeson To: Chat Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2012, 15:29 Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Green thing Counting Walmart, there are five supermarkets in town, but only three that I can get to without making a big hairy deal out of it. Aldi expects you to bring your own bags (bags, including insulated bags, available at reasonable cost) *and* expects you to do your own packing. I like their system best, partly because I have to rush-rush to put my stuff on the conveyor as fast as the clerk takes it off, and partly because I never find the canned goods in the same bag with the bagged salad. And when I go by bike, I don't have to take the stuff out of bags before I pack it into the panniers. Marsh and Kroger will throw stuff into the cart loose if you insist on it in just the right way. I think the baggers at Kroger are paid by the bag; they stop just short of putting empty bags into my bags. Marsh gives a five-cent credit for each bag brought and used, and fewer of the baggers are snowed by canvas bags. I bought the canvas bags from SuperValu (now Nichol's Market) in another state and another century. They are still going strong -- small holes in some, but I'm still not looking to see which bags the canned goods go into. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's a lovely warm day -- in January? To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y..
Re: [lace-chat] Soft news: Supermarket renames bread for 3 year old
Yes, Lora, power to the people at last. I suggest to rebrand the cheap bagged sliced bread as squidgy cardboard slices. Agnes Boddington - elloughton UK Subject: [lace-chat] Soft news: Supermarket renames bread for 3 year old I know this is soft news, but it did make me smile: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16812545 To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
Gosh, no wonder I am exhauted by the time I get home from the supermarket! Btw I hate the self-checkout, and when I am gently reminded by a member of the supermarket staff that I can use the self-checkout, I give them a dirty look. I prefer to interact with the staff at the till rather than with a faceless machine. I have for years now shopped in the same supermarket, once a week, and know most of the staff. We can have a banter, and a moan together, though I look around sometimes to see if I can find the hidden microphone or camera. Most of my bulk shopping is done at the local farmers' market. Once a month I stock up with bread, meat, potatoes, eggs etc., and yes, I do have a large freezer. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Subject: [lace-chat] Green thing We used to be served - now we serve ourselves. We always had the goods checked out - now they want us to do it ourselves. How long before they start expecting us the fill the shelves as well? Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
I sometimes think about asking if I will get a discount if I go through the self service checkout! Bet I know what the answer would be. I wouldn't mind so much if these do it yourself tills were actually quicker. In Wales we have to pay for plastic bags if we don't bring out own. So, at the beginning we are asked to put our bags on the packing up belt and press 'done' when we've done so. One supermarket's system cannot cope with more than one bag in that area and you have to wait for an assistant, in effect, to confirm you haven't sneaked unpaid for goods onto it. Patricia in Wales A lot of our supermarkets have introduced self-service checkouts, so you take the goods off the shelf, put them in your trolley, take them out of the trolley and scan them, then put them in your bags which you've put in your trolley. You pay by cash, credit card or debit card through a slot. If cash and you need change, that's spewed out of a slot and a receipt emerges from another.You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from the trolley to your car boot. One supermarket uses the first of the above or they have handsets which you use if you've registered a credit or debit card. With that, you put your bags in the trolley, take the goods off the shelves, scan them with the handset, put the goods in your bags in an organised way and finalise at a separate checkout. You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from the trolley to your car boot. We used to be served - now we serve ourselves. We always had the goods checked out - now they want us to do it ourselves. How long before they start expecting us the fill the shelves as well? Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Soft news: Supermarket renames bread for 3 year old
I know this is soft news, but it did make me smile: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16812545 To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Green thing
Mostly in our supermarkets, you take the goods off the shelves, put them in your trolley, take them out of your trolley and put them on the conveyor belt, the checkout staff scan them and put them back on the second part of the belt then you put them in your bags (or plastic bags supplied by the supermarket) which you've put in your trolley. You pay by handing cash to the checkout assistant, or use a credit card or debit card by inserting in a handset and entering your PIN. You're given change if you used cash and you're handed a receipt. You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from the trolley to your car boot. You can ask to have someone pack for you if you want eggs at the bottom of your bag underneath the potatoes. A lot of our supermarkets have introduced self-service checkouts, so you take the goods off the shelf, put them in your trolley, take them out of the trolley and scan them, then put them in your bags which you've put in your trolley. You pay by cash, credit card or debit card through a slot. If cash and you need change, that's spewed out of a slot and a receipt emerges from another.You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from the trolley to your car boot. One supermarket uses the first of the above or they have handsets which you use if you've registered a credit or debit card. With that, you put your bags in the trolley, take the goods off the shelves, scan them with the handset, put the goods in your bags in an organised way and finalise at a separate checkout. You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from the trolley to your car boot. We used to be served - now we serve ourselves. We always had the goods checked out - now they want us to do it ourselves. How long before they start expecting us the fill the shelves as well? Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] The British
The British NEWSPAPERS Commenting on a complaint from a Mr. Arthur Purdey about a large gas bill, a spokesman for North West Gas said, 'We agree it was rather high for the time of year. It's possible Mr. Purdey has been charged for the gas used up during the explosion that destroyed his house.' (The Daily Telegraph) Police reveal that a woman arrested for shoplifting had a whole salami in her underwear. When asked why, she said it was because she was missing her Italian boyfriend. (The Manchester Evening News) Irish police are being handicapped in a search for a stolen van, because they cannot issue a description. It's a Special Branch vehicle and they don't want the public to know what it looks like. (The Guardian) A young girl who was blown out to sea on a set of inflatable teeth was rescued by a man on an inflatable lobster. A coast guard spokesman commented, 'This sort of thing is all too common'. (The Times) At the height of the gale, the harbourmaster radioed a coast guard and asked him to estimate the wind speed. He replied he was sorry, but he didn't have a gauge. However, if it was any help, the wind had just blown his Land Rover off the cliff. ( Aberdeen Evening Express) HEARD ON THE LONDON UNDERGOUND TUBE A list of actual announcements that London Tube train drivers have made to their passengers... 1) 'Ladies and Gentlemen, I do apologize for the delay to your service. I know you're all dying to get home, unless, of course, you happen to be married to my ex-wife, in which case you'll want to cross over to the Westbound and go in the opposite direction.' 2) 'Your delay this evening is caused by the line controller suffering from E & B syndrome: not knowing his elbow from his backside. I'll let you know any further information as soon as I'm given any.' 3) 'Do you want the good news first or the bad news? The good news is that last Friday was my birthday and I hit the town and had a great time. The bad news is that there is a points failure somewhere between Mile End and East Ham, which means we probably won't reach our destination.' 4) 'Ladies and gentlemen, we apologize for the delay, but there is a security alert at Victoria station and we are therefore stuck here for the foreseeable future, so let's take our minds off it and pass some time together. All together now 'Ten green bottles, hanging on a wall.'.' 5) 'We are now travelling through Baker Street ... As you can see, Baker Street is closed. It would have been nice if they had actually told me, so I could tell you earlier, but no, they don't think about things like that'. 6) 'Beggars are operating on this train. Please do NOT encourage these professional beggars. If you have any spare change, please give it to a registered charity. Failing that, give it to me.' 7) During an extremely hot rush hour on the Central Line, the driver announced in a West Indian drawl: 'Step right this way for the sauna, ladies and gentleman... unfortunately, towels are not provided.' 8) 'Let the passengers off the train FIRST!' (Pause ) 'Oh go on then, stuff yourselves in like sardines, see if I care - I'm going home' 9) 'Please allow the doors to close. Try not to confuse this with 'Please hold the doors open.' The two are distinct and separate instructions.' 10) 'Please note that the beeping noise coming from the doors means that the doors are about to close. It does not mean throw yourself or your bags into the doors.' 11) 'We can't move off because some idiot has their hand stuck in the door.' 12) 'To the gentleman wearing the long grey coat trying to get on the second carriage -- what part of 'stand clear of the doors' don't you understand?' 13) 'Please move all baggage away from the doors.' (Pause..) 'Please move ALL belongings away from the doors.' (Pause...) 'This is a personal message to the man in the brown suit wearing glasses at the rear of the train: Put the pie down, Four-eyes, and move your bloody golf clubs away from the door before I come down there and shove them up your a**e sideways!' 14) 'May I remind all passengers that there is strictly no smoking allowed on any part of the Underground. However, if you are smoking a joint, it's only fair that you pass it round the rest of the carriage.' Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] Re: Green thing
Counting Walmart, there are five supermarkets in town, but only three that I can get to without making a big hairy deal out of it. Aldi expects you to bring your own bags (bags, including insulated bags, available at reasonable cost) *and* expects you to do your own packing. I like their system best, partly because I have to rush-rush to put my stuff on the conveyor as fast as the clerk takes it off, and partly because I never find the canned goods in the same bag with the bagged salad. And when I go by bike, I don't have to take the stuff out of bags before I pack it into the panniers. Marsh and Kroger will throw stuff into the cart loose if you insist on it in just the right way. I think the baggers at Kroger are paid by the bag; they stop just short of putting empty bags into my bags. Marsh gives a five-cent credit for each bag brought and used, and fewer of the baggers are snowed by canvas bags. I bought the canvas bags from SuperValu (now Nichol's Market) in another state and another century. They are still going strong -- small holes in some, but I'm still not looking to see which bags the canned goods go into. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's a lovely warm day -- in January? To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
