Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-06 Thread Martha Krieg
And even the craft shopping is not as much fun as it should be, because 
invariably if one is looking for a particular object, one will find 
everything BUT that object!


On 1/31/12 6:12 PM, Agnes Boddington wrote:

What do you mean: Shopping is becoming a real chore ..?
I loathe shopping, shopping for food, shopping for clothes or shoes etc.
The only shopping I like is craft stuff shopping!
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK




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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-03 Thread Janice Blair
In the US food people are supposed to wear gloves and change them often but I 
have also seen them accepting money with the gloves on in food courts.  

Wonder if those gloves are recycled or go into the trash.
Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
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>Sue,

>  Well firstly I
>would like you to wash your hands, I got a funny look and she turned and
>grudgingly washed her hands but was very surly when she served me.  I had a
>word with one of the managers strolling about and he seemed as if I was
>being finicky about the matter, but what do others think, was I being fussy?

Hmmm - I can understand where you're coming from, but here in 
Australia all food handlers must wear those disposable plastic 
gloves. Isn't that the case in the UK?
David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-03 Thread The Lace Bee
In the UK, under food handling regulations, people should remove the gloves
and dispose of them when handling food.  What makes me spit is that often they
prepare your food then hold their gloved hand out to take your money.
 
As we
tell delegates, when you have finished preparing some food, go put the gloves
in the bin, wash your hands (whilst singing happy birthday ...) and put on
CLEAN gloves.
 
I do despair on occasions.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker
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Hmmm - I can understand where you're coming from, but here in
Australia all food handlers must wear those disposable plastic 
gloves. Isn't
that the case in the UK?
David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-03 Thread The Lace Bee
We were trying to work out how long to advise our delegates to wash their
hands before starting their cooking session.  Apparantly, signing 'Happy
Birthday' for two verses is the right amount of time.
 
However, we have to
remind delegates to sing it IN THEIR HEADS.  16 people singing happy birthday
all slightly out of sync is a terrible thing.

Kind Regards

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 Well firstly I
would like you to wash your hands, 


Sue
M Harvey
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[lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-03 Thread David C COLLYER

Sue,



 Well firstly I
would like you to wash your hands, I got a funny look and she turned and
grudgingly washed her hands but was very surly when she served me.  I had a
word with one of the managers strolling about and he seemed as if I was
being finicky about the matter, but what do others think, was I being fussy?


Hmmm - I can understand where you're coming from, but here in 
Australia all food handlers must wear those disposable plastic 
gloves. Isn't that the case in the UK?

David in Ballarat, AUS

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RE: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-03 Thread Sue
Along the line of supermarkets bad habits, the other week I went to the fish
counter and there was nobody there to serve me so the girl from the meat
counter next door said "wait a minute she's on her break I will serve you
when I have  finished serving this lady," she finished serving her customer
and came straight to me and asked what I wanted I replied Well firstly I
would like you to wash your hands, I got a funny look and she turned and
grudgingly washed her hands but was very surly when she served me.  I had a
word with one of the managers strolling about and he seemed as if I was
being finicky about the matter, but what do others think, was I being fussy?

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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RE: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-02 Thread Margery Allcock
The bags I use for supermarket shopping are the "Bags-for-Life" which
the supermarkets themselves sell.  These are substantial good-sized
plastic bags with strong handles; they cost 10 or 12 pence, they last
a long time (years in my experience), and when they wear out the
supermarket will exchange them for a new one, free, and recycle the
old one.  These bags fold up tidily and I carry four in my handbag so
they are always in the shop when I reach the checkout.  And Sainsburys
give me an extra Nectar (loyalty) point (worth half a penny) for each
bag of my own which I use.

Yes, I do have a very large handbag ...

Margery.
 
margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK 
 
 

> -Original Message-
> Joy Beeson wrote:
> 
> This happens to us all the time.the problem is forgetting to 
> put the bags back in the car after you bring your shopping in to
empty them
> 
> Many times we go out, realize the bags are missing and come 
> back and find them under the hall table or in the kitchen from last
week!

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-02 Thread Lora
Joy Beeson  wrote:

> I'm not at all sure how that happened, since I store my bags in the trunk.
DH was with me, which may have had something to do with it.

This happens to us all the time.the problem is forgetting to put the bags back
in the car after you bring your shopping in to empty them

Many times we go out, realize the bags are missing and come back and find them
under the hall table or in the kitchen from last week!

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-02 Thread Sue Babbs

Cautionary (true!) tale!

We store our collection of brown paper carrier bags and a few cloth bags in 
the garage ready to go the shops. In April last year, I put the collection 
into the car, went to the supermarket and returned with the shopping.


After I had unpacked the shopping in the house that I noticed an awful 
smell, which I eventually tracked down to the collection of unused carrier 
bags.  I assumed I must have left some fruit / veg /meat in there on a 
previous occasion and it had rotted.  This smell hadn't been discernible 
when the bags were in the garage, as last year, we were having a more normal 
winter and the garage was still at around freezing point.


My son came running, when I screamed. sadly I had found a dead and rotting 
chipmunk in the cloth bag at the bottom of the collection.  I was very glad 
the woman doing the packing of my shopping in the supermarket hadn’t needed 
to use all the bags, and so didn’t discover it!!


Sue

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-02 Thread Joy Beeson
The packers at our supermarkets have been told that meat 
goes into a separate bag, but they haven't been told why, 
it's a rule to be blindly followed, like walking into the 
teeth of the traffic even when you have no chance at all of 
getting out of the way when you see a car coming -- so the 
lunch meat and the pork chops go into the same bag. 
Fortunately, all of them package everything in sealed 
containers -- not just shrink wrapped, but heat-sealed bags 
-- so it doesn't really matter.


Still, I prefer Aldi, where I can pack my own bags, sorting 
into "garage" and "kitchen" as I do so.  Or pack my trunk, 
as I did once when I forgot to take my bags.


I'm not at all sure how that happened, since I store my bags 
in the trunk.  DH was with me, which may have had something 
to do with it.


Many is the time when I parked my cart outside the restroom 
(so it wouldn't be unpacked and put away) and ran back out 
to the car for my bags.


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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-02 Thread The Lace Bee
My day job involves food.  I have to be current on my food hygiene
certification and I have certification on food safety that you would expect
for someone running a restaurant.
 
The last time I phoned up Ocado and told
them that putting raw and cooked meat in the same bag was an issue on food
hygiene grounds the girl at the end of the phone said; 'Are you sure?'
 
Now
am I sure.  YES I AM.  I explained that I if my suppliers at work did this we
would reject the consignment with no negotiation.  She then asked 'Are you
sure?'
 
Head - brick wall, head - brick wall.
 
I have had an on going battle
with the major supermarkets who think putting gluen free bakery products in
the bread aisle is good so I don't feel vitimised by having to go to a
separate aisle.  As I said to the girl from Tesco's 'why on earth would I want
to go down the aisle that has the stuff in it that if I breathe in the flour
alone or bread crumbs will have me doubled up in agony?'  She replied; 'I
don't know'.
 
Urghhh!
 
For those of you who are abroad you can only imagine
the niceness of the people who work at Waitrose.  They get upset if things
aren't in stock, will spend hours looking for things for you and try to offer
alternatives and if you shop with them regularily even get a bit tearful if
you are looking a bit peaky or have a sniffle.  One time I had to go shopping
because I had run out of food and had flu like symptons as did the rest of the
family.  I couldn't order on line as our broadband was down so in person
shopping was needed.  When I went to the deli counter I stood back and
apologised for being ill and explained why I was out and while she sorted out
my order I was given lots of help and advice on how to get rid on my symptoms.
 
 
Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/


Liz, I
have been reporting those supermarkets to Trading Standards and Public Health
on the first instance of them putting cooked and raw meat in the same bag, in
fact raw meat with anything else. I also have written to the chief executive
of the company concerned about the standard of their staff who put eggs in
with tins, and asking him to train staff in the reason why people have gluten
free products and the health risks to customers of substituting gluten
containing products for gluten free.
Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-02 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz, I have been reporting those supermarkets to Trading Standards and 
Public Health on the first instance of them putting cooked and raw meat in 
the same bag, in fact raw meat with anything else. I also have written to 
the chief executive of the company concerned about the standard of their 
staff who put eggs in with tins, and asking him to train staff in the reason 
why people have gluten free products and the health risks to customers of 
substituting gluten containing products for gluten free.


Whenever I've complained to Sainsburys, they've usually told me to go away, 
but have given me a few thousand Nectar points to do so; at least I get 
something out of it. At one time it got to the point where the manager would 
go for coffee if he saw me enter the store. I don't suffer fools.


My best was in the early 70s when supermarkets were just getting going and 
Tesco opened a store in the town I was then living in. It was long before 
the huge distribution centres, and food was packaged at the back of the 
store. I bough two quarters of frozen chicken and some fresh lambs liver. I 
cooked the liver and found it wasn't lamb's liver at all - it was pig's 
liver, and we can't stand the pappiness of pig's liver. Mistake I thought, 
never mind I'll give it to the dog. Then the next day I defrosted the 
chicken, rinsed it, cooked it in the oven and, when we came to eat it, found 
that we had two quarters of chicken, two quarters of giblets and two 
quarters of plastic bag that the giblets had been packed in. A whole frozen 
chicken had been quartered and repackaged. I'd fed most of the liver to our 
dog, but had kept a some back to give him the next day. But having found the 
problem with the chicken, kept it and called Trading Standards as well as 
writing to Tesco head office. Don't know if they still do it, but then the 
manufacturing companies would offer prizes to the manager of any store of 
any chain who could sell the most of their product. When Tesco investigated 
they found that, when the store was closed, the manager at that store had 
built a false wall out back and it was filled with boxes of a dry product. 
The company producing the product was offering a sailing dinghy to the 
manager who could sell the most of their product. This manager wanted it and 
had been ordering loads and recouping the money by repackaging and 
relabelling other products. I gave evidence in court, he was jailed and I 
got the best and freshest meat for a month, delivered (in the days before 
they delivered) to keep me quiet. It didn't. Trading Standards investigated 
as well, but I never heard what they did.


Never set foot in Tesco again until we moved here 15 years ago, but stopped 
because, on a couple of occasions, I saw a rat at the back of the store when 
I drove out of their car park, and the milk aisle stank. They said it was 
continental cheeses, but it was stale milk where the cleaner would mop up 
spilt milk by spreading it around the floor and under the racks of milk 
instead of actually washing the floor. If it's not clean on the shop floor, 
what's it like in the storage area where the public don't go? The I slipped 
on a grape because the staff in the greengrocery section were too lazy to 
pick up droppings. My doctor said not to push it too much because he 
couldn't tell what was a result of the fall and what was because of my RA, 
but I got GBP100 from them. Stopped going there again, but went back a few 
years ago when I used to take a blind neighbour shopping until he died, and 
that was where he wanted to go, but I only bought a few branded products 
while I was in there.


Very happy now with Waitrose, which is clean, the products are good but no 
dearer than other supermarkets unless you choose their more expensive 
ranges, the staff are all happy and very willing to help and where you have 
the choice of going to shop yourself and taking it home with you, shopping 
yourself and have them deliver, have them shop and you go and collect, or 
have them shop for you and they deliver.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-01 Thread lacelady
I try to remember my cloth bags but take the plastic if I forget or don't have 
enough bags with me.  There are so many uses for the plastic bags that they are 
not thrown out.  The local free meal programs use them for the 'take out' 
meals.  My church uses them in the summer at the produce table from the church 
garden, and also for the rummage sale and Christmas bazaar.  I don't know what 
those programs will do if they ban the plastic bags in our town.  

Our curbside recycling takes paper, some plastics, cardboard, small metal and 
motor oil, but the glass we have to take down to the recycling center 
ourselves.  Compost material must also be taken to the center.   Each company 
seems to do things a bit differently.

Alice in Oregon -- where I'm back in my house tonight for the first time since 
Jan 9.  The new bathroom is usable (not quite finished) and the new kitchen is 
an unknown time, probably next week.  We'll still be eating out for a couple 
more weeks. (Easy on me as cook but hard on the bank account.)


- Original Message -
From: "Janice Blair" 
I sometimes forget to take my own bags to the supermarket and save those free 
ones for lining my trash bin and using on painting jobs, but most of them, 
along 
with any other plastic bags I get are taken back to the supermarket and put in 
their bag recyclable bin.  Our curbside recycling only takes paper, glass and 
plastic containers.  So far we don't have curbside composting in this area.

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-01 Thread The Lace Bee
I had to give up on on-line shopping.  I have ongoing rows with the different
on-line supermarkets for the following reasons that I hate and they don't
think are an issue or worse, contravene food hygiene.  What they also don't
understand is that when they deliver something broken or substituted that I
can't have I then have to go our and buy it which defeats my buying it on
line:
 
- putting my tins of baked beans in with my eggs - result - smashed
eggs and sticky baked beans.
- putting my tins of baked beans in with my eggs
and raw meat - smashed eggs and egg soaked beans and raw meat
- putting my raw
meat in with my cooked or cured meat - yuck.  Contaminated raw meat and cooked
/ cured straight into the bin
- putting my raw meat in with my fresh fruit -
need I explain this one?
- putting any tins in with soft things like bread and
raspberries in the same bag - we had pink flat bread as a result
-
substituting my gluten free bread with gluten containing bread - hello? What
planet are you on.  I can't eat gluten - IT WILL KILL ME
- substituting my
fresh lemons with a bottle of lemon juice - so makes the G&T's work
-
substituting my cooked ham for a tin of ham ... I'm not even going to comment
- substituting my decaf tea with non decaf tea - no I'm not saying anything
-
substituting my soya chocolate drink with milk based strawberry drink
-
substituting my gluten free flour with gluten based flour - ughh
 
I could go
on 
 
On one occasion where just under £25 worth of food was useless as it
had been contaminated and went through food handling and hygiene issues over
the delivery and the girl on the phone said I was being 'picky'.

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 Whoever came up with the phrase "retail
therapy" didn't do the weekly shop, neither are they any larger than a size
zero for clothes!



I do shop on line if I just
can't get to the supermarket (DH doesn't drive), and am now glad that they now
have the option "no substitutes". Before they did that I wondered at the
thinking of the person doing the shopping for me - I wanted fruit shortcake
biscuits and got fig biscuits; I wanted plain bio yoghurt for the dog and
fruit yoghurt for me - they hadn't got the fruit yoghurt I wanted, so instead
of sending another brand, I got double plain bio.



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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-01 Thread Janice Blair
Maybe it is an age thing.  I used to like to shop for clothes, shoes, etc., but 
now I dislike doing it except for the occasional good sales that we have.  The 
only time I go to an indoor shopping mall these days is when I go to get my 
haircut and I get there early so I can have lunch in the food court and browse 
the sales for an hour before seeing my stylist.  I used to "treat" myself to a 
senior coffee (50 cents) at McDonalds and get something off their $1 menu.  DH 
hates fast food, so that is why it is a treat, but now the McD in the mall has 
closed and I am forced to pay full price for lunch.

I sometimes forget to take my own bags to the supermarket and save those free 
ones for lining my trash bin and using on painting jobs, but most of them, 
along 
with any other plastic bags I get are taken back to the supermarket and put in 
their bag recyclable bin.  Our curbside recycling only takes paper, glass and 
plastic containers.  So far we don't have curbside composting in this area.

Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org





From: Agnes Boddington 
To: lace-chat@arachne.com
Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 5:12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

What do you mean: Shopping is becoming a real chore ..?
I loathe shopping, shopping for food, shopping for clothes or shoes etc.
The only shopping I like is craft stuff shopping!
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

> to bring our own.  Shopping is becoming a real chore these days.
> 
> Janice

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-01 Thread Sue
I have decided I must be a changling, my Mother, 3 sisters and daughter were 
all born to shop, I shop out of necessity:-)  Dislike clothes shopping.


Was close to abandoning our normal supermarket when they refurbished it, but 
several of them were doing the same thing at the same time, but unlike 
Jeans, they have left us the cut throughs so now we have worked out where 
they hide everything we want, we do those bits and ignore the rest.   We 
have lost some of our favourite lines though but even ringing the companies 
that made them didn't make a difference.


I also use cheques to pay certain bills.  Happy to pay for what I have, at 
the time, rather than masses up front.


I have received a cheque from my Mum to spend for my birthday and am 
currently waiting for my brain to decide what I really want to buy (thinking 
lace items not clothing).  Dont want to jump in buy something just because 
its there and wish I had waited a day or a week when I find something I 
really, really would love to have, apart from the fact that there are just 
too many appointments to be kept this week and next.

Sue T


Janice  In this country we can no longer pay by cheque as our bank cards 
no

longer serve as cheque guarantee cards.  At one point the banks wanted to
phase cheques out altogether but there was so much opposition they had to
abandon the idea v- for the present, at least.  When I use mail order I 
always

use cheques and so I'm pleased I can continue to do so.
I'm with Agnes: all shopping is a bore but I would add bookshops to her 
list

of non chore shopping/browsing.
Patricia in Wales



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[lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-01 Thread Jean Nathan
Whoever came up with the phrase "retail therapy" didn't do the weekly shop, 
neither are they any larger than a size zero for clothes!


of dog food in one carrier bag and just a tube of toothpaste in another!  It 
never ceases to amaze me why they can't even up the distribution between the 
plastic carrier bags.>


I do shop on line if I just can't get to the supermarket (DH doesn't drive), 
and am now glad that they now have the option "no substitutes". Before they 
did that I wondered at the thinking of the person doing the shopping for 
me - I wanted fruit shortcake biscuits and got fig biscuits; I wanted plain 
bio yoghurt for the dog and fruit yoghurt for me - they hadn't got the fruit 
yoghurt I wanted, so instead of sending another brand, I got double plain 
bio.


I've just changed supermarkets after 50 years of loyalty to Sainsburys from 
the days when they used to serve you and pat butter for you. The 
reasonable-sized one in Poole town centre removed the seats in the area 
outside because they were being used by drunks - I don't drink so why should 
I be deprived of the opportunity to sit down. Then they introduced 
coin-in-the-slot small trolleys because people were stealing them. I can't 
use a big one because I can't get the shopping out of it. I can't walk very 
well so use the trolley as a walking frame and, by the time I've got my 
shopping into the car, I don't have the strength to take the trolley back to 
get my coin back; and, before anyone suggests I get an assistant to help 
me - NO! I want to remain independent. I'm not a thief, so why should I be 
treated like one.


So I moved to the other larger one in Poole, which still doesn't have seats, 
but doesn't have coin-in-the-slot trolleys. Then they decided to make it 
larger. It's now big enough to hold a jumbo jet, but they've reduced the 
number of lines they sell (many of which I bought "This is an alternative." 
No! I decide what I buy, not you.") and no longer have the storage space, so 
many of the shelves are empty. Add to that the rearrangement of the car park 
with more disabled and mother-and-child spaces than before, but stretching 
away from the entrance. Now most of those spaces are further from the 
entrance the able-bodied ones, which are always full. But they are complying 
with the law on the number of disabled spaces they have to have whether they 
are useful for the disabled or not. The staff got grumpy because they were 
being asked where things were, and if you wanted something halfway down one 
aisle and another halfway down the next, it seemed like a 100 metre trek to 
get to it - they'd removed all the cut-throughs with the mistaken idea that 
if you see something you don't normally buy, you will buy it now - wrong! I 
was getting grumpy before I even went through the door. Time to go 
elsewhere.


And don't get me started on being accosted to open a bank account with them 
or change my energy supplier to them. I don't buy my groceries at a bank or 
at the electricity company so why should I bank at a supermarket?


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-02-01 Thread Agnes Boddington

Yes, Patricia, book shops I can deal with and decent chocolate shops.
And as Sue already mentioned, I do like bead shops too.


I'm with Agnes: all shopping is a bore but I would add bookshops to her 
list

of non chore shopping/browsing.


Patricia in Wales


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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread scotlace
Janice  In this country we can no longer pay by cheque as our bank cards no
longer serve as cheque guarantee cards.  At one point the banks wanted to
phase cheques out altogether but there was so much opposition they had to
abandon the idea v- for the present, at least.  When I use mail order I always
use cheques and so I'm pleased I can continue to do so.


I'm with Agnes: all shopping is a bore but I would add bookshops to her list
of non chore shopping/browsing.


Patricia in Wales


-Original Message-
From: Janice Blair 

We don't have the scanner thingy over here yet, at least not in this area, but

we do have self checking.  I really dislike it when I buy produce and have to
look things up that don't have barcodes.  I usually pay with a check which
also
slows things down as I then have to wait for the person who is in charge of at
least 6 scanners to get to me and accept the check.  I like to treat the
supermarket as my bank and usually get some cash change for pocket money.
 Sometimes there is only one normal check-out open with a regular cashier but
if

I have veg I stand in line.  Apart from Aldi, we still can get bags if we
forget

to bring our own.  Shopping is becoming a real chore these days





From: The Lace Bee 
To: Chat 
Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 3:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

My local Waitrose has refined this system to the point of perfection.  I like
to use the self scan handset because I know exactly what I've spent before I
get to the checkout and that is the ONLY reason I go through this torture
when
I go shopping.

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[lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread Witchy Woman
My favorite is when you hand them your bags, and they still put your
groceries in the plastic bags, then put the bagged groceries in your bags.
AARRGGHHH!!!

The other fun thing is the self-check out at the local grocery...it has a
weight sensor in the bagging section, and when you put one of your bags down
it tells you to remove the item from the bag and run it through the scanner.
SIGH

Peg
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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread Sue Duckles
What Agnes forgets to mention is that she can be persuaded to go clothes 
shopping provided it's interspersed with lots of beads!!  LOL

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 31 Jan 2012, at 23:12, Agnes Boddington wrote:

> What do you mean: Shopping is becoming a real chore ..?
> I loathe shopping, shopping for food, shopping for clothes or shoes etc.
> The only shopping I like is craft stuff shopping!
> Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread Agnes Boddington

What do you mean: Shopping is becoming a real chore ..?
I loathe shopping, shopping for food, shopping for clothes or shoes etc.
The only shopping I like is craft stuff shopping!
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK


to bring our own.  Shopping is becoming a real chore these days.

Janice


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RE: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread Sue
I don't know why the supermarket staff remind you that there are self
service tills, don't the silly people realise that those same machines will
one day put them out of a job because when the powers to be find out that
everyone is at last using them (by the way I will not in principal) they
will bid them all farewell.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread Janice Blair
We don't have the scanner thingy over here yet, at least not in this area, but 
we do have self checking.  I really dislike it when I buy produce and have to 
look things up that don't have barcodes.  I usually pay with a check which also 
slows things down as I then have to wait for the person who is in charge of at 
least 6 scanners to get to me and accept the check.  I like to treat the 
supermarket as my bank and usually get some cash change for pocket money. 
 Sometimes there is only one normal check-out open with a regular cashier but 
if 
I have veg I stand in line.  Apart from Aldi, we still can get bags if we 
forget 
to bring our own.  Shopping is becoming a real chore these days.

Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA where we had a small 
earthquake last evening.  I heard a noise and DH said it was the tv.  Wrong!  I 
dislike surround sound, especially when alone.  I dislike hearing a noise from 
the opposite end of the room from the tv.  Very disconcerting, but men must 
have 
their toys.  Not heard of any damage.
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From: The Lace Bee 
To: Chat 
Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 3:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

My local Waitrose has refined this system to the point of perfection.  I like
to use the self scan handset because I know exactly what I've spent before I
get to the checkout and that is the ONLY reason I go through this torture when
I go shopping.

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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Or you could shop on-line and have it delivered with four giant size tins of 
dog food in one carrier bag and just a tube of toothpaste in another!  It never 
ceases to amaze me why they can't even up the distribution between the plastic 
carrier bags.

Brenda

On 31 Jan 2012, at 18:45, Jean Nathan wrote:

>  You can ask to have someone pack for you if you want eggs at the bottom of 
> your bag underneath the potatoes.

Brenda in Allhallows
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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread The Lace Bee
My local Waitrose has refined this system to the point of perfection.  I like
to use the self scan handset because I know exactly what I've spent before I
get to the checkout and that is the ONLY reason I go through this torture when
I go shopping.
 
I go in, I put my card through the swipe machine and it shows
me a handset to scan the goods myself.  I try to take the handset and it jams
and locks it's self it.  I now can't swipe my card again and it won't let me
have the handset.  I go to customer service and they reset my id.
 
I go back
again with the nice man from customer service, he swipes my card and ... the
handset jams.  He is now really embarrashed and goes and clears my card
again.  He comes back and just hands me a handset from his desk.
 
I go round
the shop with my list and bags.  I scan products and I put them straight into
my bag and if there is an offer it beeps and me like a frustrated beepy thing
and gets upset because I don't want 56 packets of dog food to go with my cat
biscuits.
 
After about an hour, carefully going up each aisle in turn and
marking off my list and getting into fights with the other customers over the
last pie or dish cloth (they are civilised in Waitrose but can be vicous when
cornered those John Lewis women) I go to the checkout.
 
Because I am strange
and believe in paying cash I have to wait in line at the customer service
(rather than scan a finish bar code, hand over set and leave - it charges your
card).  After I have stood there about 20 minutes (thinking about my
defrosting icecream and frozen scallops) listening to people's weird things
they need help with they scan the final bar code and say 'just a minute while
I close your shopping and get your total' ... followed by the frown and the
fatal words, 'ah it's saying that you need to rescan to check your shopping'.
 
So, having carefull, scanned and packed my shopping in the bags I want it,
has to be taken out and rescanned and repacked.
 
Everytime it has come to
exactly the same total as I had it.
 
So ask from the bottom of my heart ...
WHY WAITROSE  WHY ME?

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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 From: Jean
Nathan 
 
One supermarket uses the
first of the above or they have handsets which you use if you've registered a
credit or debit card. With that, you put your bags in the trolley, take the
goods off the shelves, scan them with the handset, put the goods in your bags
in an organised way and finalise at a separate checkout. You push the trolley
to your car and move the bags from the trolley to your car boot.

We used to
be served - now we serve ourselves. We always had the goods checked out - now
they want us to do it ourselves. How long before they start expecting us the
fill the shelves as well?



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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread Agnes Boddington

Gosh, no wonder I am exhauted by the time I get home from the supermarket!
Btw I hate the self-checkout, and when I am gently reminded by a member of 
the supermarket staff that I can use the self-checkout, I give them a dirty 
look.
I prefer to interact with the staff at the till rather than with a faceless 
machine.
I have for years now shopped in the same supermarket, once a week, and know 
most of the staff.
We can have a banter, and a moan together, though I look around sometimes to 
see if I can find the hidden microphone or camera.
Most of my bulk shopping is done at the local farmers' market. Once a month 
I stock up with bread, meat, potatoes, eggs etc., and yes, I do have a large 
freezer.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

Subject: [lace-chat] Green thing




We used to be served - now we serve ourselves. We always had the goods 
checked out - now they want us to do it ourselves. How long before they 
start expecting us the fill the shelves as well?


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK


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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread scotlace
I sometimes think about asking if I will get a discount if I go through the
self service checkout!  Bet I know what the answer would be.  I wouldn't mind
so much if these do it yourself tills were actually quicker.  In Wales we have
to pay for plastic bags if we don't bring out own.  So, at the beginning we
are asked to put our bags on the packing up belt and press 'done' when we've
done so.  One supermarket's system cannot cope with more than one bag in that
area and you have to wait for an assistant, in effect, to confirm you haven't
sneaked unpaid for goods onto it.


Patricia in Wales

A lot of our supermarkets have introduced self-service checkouts, so you
take the goods off the shelf, put them in your trolley, take them out of the
trolley and scan them, then put them in your bags which you've put in your
trolley. You pay by cash, credit card or debit card through a slot. If cash
and you need change, that's spewed out of a slot and a receipt emerges from
another.You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from the trolley
to your car boot.

One supermarket uses the first of the above or they have handsets which you
use if you've registered a credit or debit card. With that, you put your
bags in the trolley, take the goods off the shelves, scan them with the
handset, put the goods in your bags in an organised way and finalise at a
separate checkout. You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from
the trolley to your car boot.

We used to be served - now we serve ourselves. We always had the goods
checked out - now they want us to do it ourselves. How long before they
start expecting us the fill the shelves as well?

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-31 Thread Jean Nathan
Mostly in our supermarkets, you take the goods off the shelves, put them in 
your trolley, take them out of your trolley and put them on the conveyor 
belt, the  checkout staff scan them and put them back on the second part of 
the belt then you put them in your bags (or plastic bags supplied by the 
supermarket) which you've put in your trolley. You pay by handing cash to 
the checkout assistant, or use a credit card or debit card by inserting in a 
handset and entering your PIN. You're given change if you used cash and 
you're handed a receipt. You push the trolley to your car and move the bags 
from the trolley to your car boot. You can ask to have someone pack for you 
if you want eggs at the bottom of your bag underneath the potatoes.


A lot of our supermarkets have introduced self-service checkouts, so you 
take the goods off the shelf, put them in your trolley, take them out of the 
trolley and scan them, then put them in your bags which you've put in your 
trolley. You pay by cash, credit card or debit card through a slot. If cash 
and you need change, that's spewed out of a slot and a receipt emerges from 
another.You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from the trolley 
to your car boot.


One supermarket uses the first of the above or they have handsets which you 
use if you've registered a credit or debit card. With that, you put your 
bags in the trolley, take the goods off the shelves, scan them with the 
handset, put the goods in your bags in an organised way and finalise at a 
separate checkout. You push the trolley to your car and move the bags from 
the trolley to your car boot.


We used to be served - now we serve ourselves. We always had the goods 
checked out - now they want us to do it ourselves. How long before they 
start expecting us the fill the shelves as well?


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-19 Thread Jazmin
Locally here, they will give you a plastic shopping bag, but at 5
cents each. Generally a reusable bag from them is about a dollar.

But even better we've found is that they also offer these plastic
bins.. about the same size as one of those baskets you can carry
around the shop in lieu of a trolley. Those are /brilliant/. They have
straps to make carrying easier, and hold so much more and don't fall
over in the back of the car. You just have to be careful not to fill
one with all the tins and one with all the bread (or at least manage
to have someone else carry the one with the tins in from the car ;)

In my small often rather hippie Canadian town, bringing your own bags
to the grocery store has become commonplace across all ages, which is
nice. It's only when I go other places that they look at me funny for
not wanting a bag, bringing my own coffee mug and water bottle.

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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Jean Nathan
 wrote:
> David wrote:
>
> 
>
> Didn't you used to wrap a hankie or something else around the handle to stop
> that happening?
>
> I notice nowadays it's the older shopper who take their own bags to the
> supermarket and the younger ones who take more plastic bags than they need.
> I even refuse extra small plastic bags for goods which are already more than
> adequately wrapped.

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[lace-chat] Green thing

2012-01-19 Thread Jean Nathan

David wrote:



Didn't you used to wrap a hankie or something else around the handle to stop
that happening?

I notice nowadays it's the older shopper who take their own bags to the
supermarket and the younger ones who take more plastic bags than they need.
I even refuse extra small plastic bags for goods which are already more than
adequately wrapped.

Most supermarkets did try hiding plastic bags under the checkout desk to
encourage people to take their own, but it didn't work - shoppers were
demanding them. It needs legislation like they have in Wales to stop
shoppers using them. The supermarket where I go doesn't give out plastic
bags, they'll sell you a bag-for-life for 10p. If it wears out, they replace
it free of charge. I noticed a person new to the shop complaining bitterly
that that wasn't right.

I changed to that supermarket from another when the former extended to be
the size of a hangar for a jumbo jet, but cut the number of lines and ended
up with empty spaces on the shelves because they no longer had sufficient
storage space. The manager of the store I changed to heard me mention I'd
abandoned the other store after 50 years of loyalty to one of the staff and
he promptly put two if the stores best large canvas bags in my trolley with
his compliments.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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