Re: [LU] Blackburn

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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-06 Thread John Lee via Leedslist
I thought Bamford pulled out tbh, and at best it was 50/50 as to whether it 
even was a foul in my eyes. If there was contact, it was a very light touch. I 
thought the ref probably got it right - had Bamford really committed he might 
have been a yard further on and in the box, but that’s another discussion :-) 

Sent from my iPad

> On 6 Jul 2020, at 17:08, Richard Naef  wrote:
> 
> Doesn’t that just perfectly show how difficult being a ref is.  We’ve got 
> unlimited replays, albeit from only a couple of angles, and the we’ve come up 
> with 3 different outcomes.
> 
> From: Nicholas Armit 
> Sent: 06 July 2020 17:02
> To: nat...@sky.com; leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) ; 
> Richard Naef 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn
> 
> Watching again I think Bamford did it on purpose. He flicked it to the right 
> and almost dived into the goalie. Think he was looking for a pen rather than 
> just chipping the fucker (the goalie that is).
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Monday, July 6, 2020, 10:53:56 AM EDT, Richard Naef 
> mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it was a 50/50.  Bamford's first touch was poor and I think the 
> covering defender may well have got to the ball before him if he had been 
> able to stay on his feet.  Of course PBs touch might have been poor because 
> he was/or about to be poleaxed by the keeper, but if you watch it I think the 
> Ref had a decision to make on that basis.  I guess he decided the defender 
> would have covered it and therefore Goalie wasn't the last defender.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn
> 
> Agree 100% that the keeper should have got a red for that foul, referees not 
> applying the laws / rule is one of the most annoying aspects of football - I 
> can accept them making mistakes but failure to apply the law should see them 
> demoted Dave
>On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 16:26:36 BST, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
> mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> wrote:
> 
> Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
> disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
> all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
> center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
> deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
> surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
> ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken 
> out Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to 
> ten men and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference 
> threatening to be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision 
> didn't affect the points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about 
> it, I suspect.
> Cheers!
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
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> Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2020 5:18 am
> Subject: [LU] Blackburn
> 
> First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this 
> season and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had 
> really good opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored 
> through some brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one 
> winer. Blackburn put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result 
> had little to offer in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, 
> which was never a free kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to 
> get out of the way. Our fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to 
> go rather than just hanging on for the win we continually pushed forward in 
> wave after wave and really should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was 
> crossing in the area late on. For me, this was by far our best performance 
> since the restart and I think it's a performance that tips the momentum our 
> way again. I think playing without Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe 
> playing with Harrison and Costa together is too much of luxury. Meslier 
> (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he did well throughout. I worry about 
> their goal as he his completely reliant on the wall when he stands that far 
> left of the goal. It invites the taker to put it in top right corner and when 
> he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that to Philip

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-06 Thread Scott1cairns1
He def played for it which makes me sad. He could’ve had a go at chipping the 
keeper. Anything better than that. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 6 Jul 2020, at 17:08, Richard Naef  wrote:
> 
> Doesn’t that just perfectly show how difficult being a ref is.  We’ve got 
> unlimited replays, albeit from only a couple of angles, and the we’ve come up 
> with 3 different outcomes.
> 
> From: Nicholas Armit 
> Sent: 06 July 2020 17:02
> To: nat...@sky.com; leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) ; 
> Richard Naef 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn
> 
> Watching again I think Bamford did it on purpose. He flicked it to the right 
> and almost dived into the goalie. Think he was looking for a pen rather than 
> just chipping the fucker (the goalie that is).
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Monday, July 6, 2020, 10:53:56 AM EDT, Richard Naef 
> mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it was a 50/50.  Bamford's first touch was poor and I think the 
> covering defender may well have got to the ball before him if he had been 
> able to stay on his feet.  Of course PBs touch might have been poor because 
> he was/or about to be poleaxed by the keeper, but if you watch it I think the 
> Ref had a decision to make on that basis.  I guess he decided the defender 
> would have covered it and therefore Goalie wasn't the last defender.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of nattan--- via Leedslist
> Sent: 05 July 2020 16:57
> To: leeds list mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn
> 
> Agree 100% that the keeper should have got a red for that foul, referees not 
> applying the laws / rule is one of the most annoying aspects of football - I 
> can accept them making mistakes but failure to apply the law should see them 
> demoted Dave
>On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 16:26:36 BST, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
> mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> wrote:
> 
> Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
> disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
> all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
> center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
> deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
> surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
> ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken 
> out Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to 
> ten men and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference 
> threatening to be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision 
> didn't affect the points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about 
> it, I suspect.
> Cheers!
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
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> mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2020 5:18 am
> Subject: [LU] Blackburn
> 
> First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this 
> season and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had 
> really good opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored 
> through some brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one 
> winer. Blackburn put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result 
> had little to offer in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, 
> which was never a free kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to 
> get out of the way. Our fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to 
> go rather than just hanging on for the win we continually pushed forward in 
> wave after wave and really should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was 
> crossing in the area late on. For me, this was by far our best performance 
> since the restart and I think it's a performance that tips the momentum our 
> way again. I think playing without Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe 
> playing with Harrison and Costa together is too much of luxury. Meslier 
> (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he did well throughout. I worry about 
> their goal as he his completely reliant on the wall when he stands that far 
> left of the goal. It invites the taker to put it in top right corner and when 
> he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that to Philips, at least their 
> keeper was able to get across and make an effort, Ayling - 8. Bac kto his 
> best, some good defence work and did well getting forward too. Douglas - 7. 
> Arguably

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-06 Thread Richard Naef
Doesn’t that just perfectly show how difficult being a ref is.  We’ve got 
unlimited replays, albeit from only a couple of angles, and the we’ve come up 
with 3 different outcomes.

From: Nicholas Armit 
Sent: 06 July 2020 17:02
To: nat...@sky.com; leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) ; 
Richard Naef 
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn

Watching again I think Bamford did it on purpose. He flicked it to the right 
and almost dived into the goalie. Think he was looking for a pen rather than 
just chipping the fucker (the goalie that is).

Nick

On Monday, July 6, 2020, 10:53:56 AM EDT, Richard Naef 
mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> wrote:


I think it was a 50/50.  Bamford's first touch was poor and I think the 
covering defender may well have got to the ball before him if he had been able 
to stay on his feet.  Of course PBs touch might have been poor because he 
was/or about to be poleaxed by the keeper, but if you watch it I think the Ref 
had a decision to make on that basis.  I guess he decided the defender would 
have covered it and therefore Goalie wasn't the last defender.

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mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> On Behalf 
Of nattan--- via Leedslist
Sent: 05 July 2020 16:57
To: leeds list mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn

Agree 100% that the keeper should have got a red for that foul, referees not 
applying the laws / rule is one of the most annoying aspects of football - I 
can accept them making mistakes but failure to apply the law should see them 
demoted Dave
On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 16:26:36 BST, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> wrote:

Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken out 
Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to ten men 
and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference threatening to 
be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision didn't affect the 
points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about it, I suspect.
Cheers!
Sean



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Subject: [LU] Blackburn

First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this season 
and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had really good 
opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored through some 
brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one winer. Blackburn 
put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result had little to offer 
in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, which was never a free 
kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to get out of the way. Our 
fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to go rather than just hanging 
on for the win we continually pushed forward in wave after wave and really 
should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was crossing in the area late on. 
For me, this was by far our best performance since the restart and I think it's 
a performance that tips the momentum our way again. I think playing without 
Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe playing with Harrison and Costa 
together is too much of luxury. Meslier (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he 
did well throughout. I worry about their goal as he his completely reliant on 
the wall when he stands that far left of the goal. It invites the taker to put 
it in top right corner and when he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that 
to Philips, at least their keeper was able to get across and make an effort, 
Ayling - 8. Bac kto his best, some good defence work and did well getting 
forward too. Douglas - 7. Arguably his best game for Leeds. Still unsure about 
his defensive abilities. Cooper - 8. Solid.
White - 9. Man of the match for me. Commanding with and without the ball. Luton 
was a blip. Allioski - 7. I thought he was busy and really worked hard. Could 
have had a couple himself if he had a brain when it comes to keeping on side. 
Klich - 9. I thought this was Klich at his best. His energy levels and work 
rate in that foirst half were incredible but more importantly he was creating 
chances and mking things happen. Glad he got his goal.

Phillips - 8. Much better from Kalvin. His free kick was top drawer an 
hopefully we'll see more of these n

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-06 Thread Nicholas Armit via Leedslist
 Watching again I think Bamford did it on purpose. He flicked it to the right 
and almost dived into the goalie. Think he was looking for a pen rather than 
just chipping the fucker (the goalie that is).
Nick
On Monday, July 6, 2020, 10:53:56 AM EDT, Richard Naef 
 wrote:  
 
 I think it was a 50/50.  Bamford's first touch was poor and I think the 
covering defender may well have got to the ball before him if he had been able 
to stay on his feet.  Of course PBs touch might have been poor because he 
was/or about to be poleaxed by the keeper, but if you watch it I think the Ref 
had a decision to make on that basis.  I guess he decided the defender would 
have covered it and therefore Goalie wasn't the last defender.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nattan--- via 
Leedslist
Sent: 05 July 2020 16:57
To: leeds list 
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn

 Agree 100% that the keeper should have got a red for that foul, referees not 
applying the laws / rule is one of the most annoying aspects of football - I 
can accept them making mistakes but failure to apply the law should see them 
demoted Dave
    On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 16:26:36 BST, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken out 
Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to ten men 
and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference threatening to 
be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision didn't affect the 
points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about it, I suspect.
Cheers!
Sean



-Original Message-
From: Richard Walker via Leedslist 
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2020 5:18 am
Subject: [LU] Blackburn

First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this season 
and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had really good 
opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored through some 
brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one winer. Blackburn 
put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result had little to offer 
in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, which was never a free 
kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to get out of the way. Our 
fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to go rather than just hanging 
on for the win we continually pushed forward in wave after wave and really 
should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was crossing in the area late on. 
For me, this was by far our best performance since the restart and I think it's 
a performance that tips the momentum our way again. I think playing without 
Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe playing with Harrison and Costa 
together is too much of luxury. Meslier (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he 
did well throughout. I worry about their goal as he his completely reliant on 
the wall when he stands that far left of the goal. It invites the taker to put 
it in top right corner and when he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that 
to Philips, at least their keeper was able to get across and make an effort, 
Ayling - 8. Bac kto his best, some good defence work and did well getting 
forward too. Douglas - 7. Arguably his best game for Leeds. Still unsure about 
his defensive abilities. Cooper - 8. Solid.
White - 9. Man of the match for me. Commanding with and without the ball. Luton 
was a blip. Allioski - 7. I thought he was busy and really worked hard. Could 
have had a couple himself if he had a brain when it comes to keeping on side. 
Klich - 9. I thought this was Klich at his best. His energy levels and work 
rate in that foirst half were incredible but more importantly he was creating 
chances and mking things happen. Glad he got his goal. 

Phillips - 8. Much better from Kalvin. His free kick was top drawer an 
hopefully we'll see more of these now he's bagged one. I thought he linked up 
the midfield well and worked hard. Harrison - 7. Not as involved as usual but 
certainly had his moment. Bamford - 5. I thought he was poor whether it was 
keeping onside or playing a simple pass straight to the opposition. Yes he got 
his goal and hit the post with two side footed shots but he needs to push on. 
Roberts - 5. Didn't do much.
Subs:
Hernandez - lively as always
Shack - came on and looked lively, I like Shack.
So on to Stoke, Thursday at 5pm , how fecking stupid

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-06 Thread Richard Naef
I think it was a 50/50.  Bamford's first touch was poor and I think the 
covering defender may well have got to the ball before him if he had been able 
to stay on his feet.  Of course PBs touch might have been poor because he 
was/or about to be poleaxed by the keeper, but if you watch it I think the Ref 
had a decision to make on that basis.  I guess he decided the defender would 
have covered it and therefore Goalie wasn't the last defender.

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From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nattan--- via 
Leedslist
Sent: 05 July 2020 16:57
To: leeds list 
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn

 Agree 100% that the keeper should have got a red for that foul, referees not 
applying the laws / rule is one of the most annoying aspects of football - I 
can accept them making mistakes but failure to apply the law should see them 
demoted Dave
On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 16:26:36 BST, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken out 
Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to ten men 
and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference threatening to 
be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision didn't affect the 
points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about it, I suspect.
Cheers!
Sean



-Original Message-
From: Richard Walker via Leedslist 
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2020 5:18 am
Subject: [LU] Blackburn

First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this season 
and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had really good 
opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored through some 
brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one winer. Blackburn 
put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result had little to offer 
in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, which was never a free 
kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to get out of the way. Our 
fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to go rather than just hanging 
on for the win we continually pushed forward in wave after wave and really 
should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was crossing in the area late on. 
For me, this was by far our best performance since the restart and I think it's 
a performance that tips the momentum our way again. I think playing without 
Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe playing with Harrison and Costa 
together is too much of luxury. Meslier (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he 
did well throughout. I worry about their goal as he his completely reliant on 
the wall when he stands that far left of the goal. It invites the taker to put 
it in top right corner and when he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that 
to Philips, at least their keeper was able to get across and make an effort, 
Ayling - 8. Bac kto his best, some good defence work and did well getting 
forward too. Douglas - 7. Arguably his best game for Leeds. Still unsure about 
his defensive abilities. Cooper - 8. Solid.
White - 9. Man of the match for me. Commanding with and without the ball. Luton 
was a blip. Allioski - 7. I thought he was busy and really worked hard. Could 
have had a couple himself if he had a brain when it comes to keeping on side. 
Klich - 9. I thought this was Klich at his best. His energy levels and work 
rate in that foirst half were incredible but more importantly he was creating 
chances and mking things happen. Glad he got his goal. 

Phillips - 8. Much better from Kalvin. His free kick was top drawer an 
hopefully we'll see more of these now he's bagged one. I thought he linked up 
the midfield well and worked hard. Harrison - 7. Not as involved as usual but 
certainly had his moment. Bamford - 5. I thought he was poor whether it was 
keeping onside or playing a simple pass straight to the opposition. Yes he got 
his goal and hit the post with two side footed shots but he needs to push on. 
Roberts - 5. Didn't do much.
Subs:
Hernandez - lively as always
Shack - came on and looked lively, I like Shack.
So on to Stoke, Thursday at 5pm , how fecking stupid is that ? 






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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-06 Thread Joe Skinner
You could argue their disallowed goal was very soft Harrison wasn't fouled, he 
was dallying. 

When you look at our first goal and a lot of people say it should've been 
disallowed as well... technically hitting the post is off target but even so it 
was close until they ran out of steam.

Do we think playing 4 defenders gives the rest licence to roam better? Instead 
of playing midfielders at full back?

White was immense, even striding about up front, not panicking about defending 
knowing he had actual defenders back there.

Thought Harrison was quiet on the right. He's better on the left. Possibly 
agree that him, Costa (and Roberts) is all a bit flimsy and lightweight 
together.  

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To: leeds list 
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn

 Agree 100% that the keeper should have got a red for that foul, referees not 
applying the laws / rule is one of the most annoying aspects of football - I 
can accept them making mistakes but failure to apply the law should see them 
demoted Dave
On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 16:26:36 BST, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken out 
Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to ten men 
and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference threatening to 
be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision didn't affect the 
points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about it, I suspect.
Cheers!
Sean



-Original Message-
From: Richard Walker via Leedslist 
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2020 5:18 am
Subject: [LU] Blackburn

First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this season 
and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had really good 
opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored through some 
brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one winer. Blackburn 
put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result had little to offer 
in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, which was never a free 
kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to get out of the way. Our 
fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to go rather than just hanging 
on for the win we continually pushed forward in wave after wave and really 
should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was crossing in the area late on. 
For me, this was by far our best performance since the restart and I think it's 
a performance that tips the momentum our way again. I think playing without 
Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe playing with Harrison and Costa 
together is too much of luxury. Meslier (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he 
did well throughout. I worry about their goal as he his completely reliant on 
the wall when he stands that far left of the goal. It invites the taker to put 
it in top right corner and when he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that 
to Philips, at least their keeper was able to get across and make an effort, 
Ayling - 8. Bac kto his best, some good defence work and did well getting 
forward too. Douglas - 7. Arguably his best game for Leeds. Still unsure about 
his defensive abilities. Cooper - 8. Solid.
White - 9. Man of the match for me. Commanding with and without the ball. Luton 
was a blip. Allioski - 7. I thought he was busy and really worked hard. Could 
have had a couple himself if he had a brain when it comes to keeping on side. 
Klich - 9. I thought this was Klich at his best. His energy levels and work 
rate in that foirst half were incredible but more importantly he was creating 
chances and mking things happen. Glad he got his goal. 

Phillips - 8. Much better from Kalvin. His free kick was top drawer an 
hopefully we'll see more of these now he's bagged one. I thought he linked up 
the midfield well and worked hard. Harrison - 7. Not as involved as usual but 
certainly had his moment. Bamford - 5. I thought he was poor whether it was 
keeping onside or playing a simple pass straight to the opposition. Yes he got 
his goal and hit the post with two side footed shots but he needs to push on. 
Roberts - 5. Didn't do much.
Subs:
Hernandez - lively as always
Shack - came on and looked lively, I like Shack.
So on to Stoke, Thursday at 5pm , how fecking stupid is that ? 






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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-05 Thread nattan--- via Leedslist
 Agree 100% that the keeper should have got a red for that foul, referees not 
applying the laws / rule is one of the most annoying aspects of football - I 
can accept them making mistakes but failure to apply the law should see them 
demoted 
Dave
On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 16:26:36 BST, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken out 
Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to ten men 
and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference threatening to 
be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision didn't affect the 
points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about it, I suspect.
Cheers!
Sean



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From: Richard Walker via Leedslist 
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2020 5:18 am
Subject: [LU] Blackburn

First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this season 
and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had really good 
opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored through some 
brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one winer. Blackburn 
put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result had little to offer 
in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, which was never a free 
kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to get out of the way. Our 
fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to go rather than just hanging 
on for the win we continually pushed forward in wave after wave and really 
should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was crossing in the area late on. 
For me, this was by far our best performance since the restart and I think it's 
a performance that tips the momentum our way again. I think playing without 
Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe playing with Harrison and Costa 
together is too much of luxury. 
Meslier (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he did well throughout. I worry 
about their goal as he his completely reliant on the wall when he stands that 
far left of the goal. It invites the taker to put it in top right corner and 
when he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that to Philips, at least their 
keeper was able to get across and make an effort, 
Ayling - 8. Bac kto his best, some good defence work and did well getting 
forward too. 
Douglas - 7. Arguably his best game for Leeds. Still unsure about his defensive 
abilities. 
Cooper - 8. Solid.
White - 9. Man of the match for me. Commanding with and without the ball. Luton 
was a blip. 
Allioski - 7. I thought he was busy and really worked hard. Could have had a 
couple himself if he had a brain when it comes to keeping on side. 
Klich - 9. I thought this was Klich at his best. His energy levels and work 
rate in that foirst half were incredible but more importantly he was creating 
chances and mking things happen. Glad he got his goal. 

Phillips - 8. Much better from Kalvin. His free kick was top drawer an 
hopefully we'll see more of these now he's bagged one. I thought he linked up 
the midfield well and worked hard. 
Harrison - 7. Not as involved as usual but certainly had his moment. 
Bamford - 5. I thought he was poor whether it was keeping onside or playing a 
simple pass straight to the opposition. Yes he got his goal and hit the post 
with two side footed shots but he needs to push on. 
Roberts - 5. Didn't do much.
Subs:
Hernandez - lively as always 
Shack - came on and looked lively, I like Shack.
So on to Stoke, Thursday at 5pm , how fecking stupid is that ? 






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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-05 Thread Richard Walker via Leedslist
 yep, there's an argument to give Bamford a higher score however even when he 
was put through and was taken out by the keeper the reason the red card wasn't 
gven is that Pat had lost control of the ball by pushing it too wide. It was a 
goo decision by the ref. He wouldn't have scored. His general play at times was 
poor. The way he gave away possession at times was criminal an you could hear 
Beckford getting frustrated with him for his lacking a striker's instinct. Just 
have a shot. So I'll stick with a 5. 
On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 16:26:32 BST, seanscribe--- via Leedslist 
 wrote:    
 Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken out 
Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to ten men 
and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference threatening to 
be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision didn't affect the 
points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about it, I suspect.
Cheers!
Sean



-Original Message-
From: Richard Walker via Leedslist 
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2020 5:18 am
Subject: [LU] Blackburn

First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this season 
and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had really good 
opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored through some 
brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one winer. Blackburn 
put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result had little to offer 
in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, which was never a free 
kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to get out of the way. Our 
fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to go rather than just hanging 
on for the win we continually pushed forward in wave after wave and really 
should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was crossing in the area late on. 
For me, this was by far our best performance since the restart and I think it's 
a performance that tips the momentum our way again. I think playing without 
Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe playing with Harrison and Costa 
together is too much of luxury. 
Meslier (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he did well throughout. I worry 
about their goal as he his completely reliant on the wall when he stands that 
far left of the goal. It invites the taker to put it in top right corner and 
when he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that to Philips, at least their 
keeper was able to get across and make an effort, 
Ayling - 8. Bac kto his best, some good defence work and did well getting 
forward too. 
Douglas - 7. Arguably his best game for Leeds. Still unsure about his defensive 
abilities. 
Cooper - 8. Solid.
White - 9. Man of the match for me. Commanding with and without the ball. Luton 
was a blip. 
Allioski - 7. I thought he was busy and really worked hard. Could have had a 
couple himself if he had a brain when it comes to keeping on side. 
Klich - 9. I thought this was Klich at his best. His energy levels and work 
rate in that foirst half were incredible but more importantly he was creating 
chances and mking things happen. Glad he got his goal. 

Phillips - 8. Much better from Kalvin. His free kick was top drawer an 
hopefully we'll see more of these now he's bagged one. I thought he linked up 
the midfield well and worked hard. 
Harrison - 7. Not as involved as usual but certainly had his moment. 
Bamford - 5. I thought he was poor whether it was keeping onside or playing a 
simple pass straight to the opposition. Yes he got his goal and hit the post 
with two side footed shots but he needs to push on. 
Roberts - 5. Didn't do much.
Subs:
Hernandez - lively as always 
Shack - came on and looked lively, I like Shack.
So on to Stoke, Thursday at 5pm , how fecking stupid is that ? 






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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-05 Thread seanscribe--- via Leedslist
Only one thing to disagree with here, and one thing that's missing. The 
disagreement is the 5 for Bamford, which is a bit harsh since he scored the 
all-important first goal. I'm not Bamford's biggest fan, but when a 
center-forward criticized for not taking chances actually scores, I think he 
deserves more than 5 out of 10. Bamford's also key to the incident that I was 
surprised neither you nor Dave mentioned in your match reports, which was the 
ref's inexcusable failure to send off the Blackburn keeper after he'd taken out 
Bamford. If the ref had done his job, Blackburn would have been down to ten men 
and we might have scored one or two more (with goal difference threatening to 
be important this season). The ref's lucky that the decision didn't affect the 
points, otherwise there'd have been much more heard about it, I suspect.
Cheers!
Sean



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From: Richard Walker via Leedslist 
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Sun, Jul 5, 2020 5:18 am
Subject: [LU] Blackburn

First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this season 
and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had really good 
opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored through some 
brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one winer. Blackburn 
put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result had little to offer 
in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, which was never a free 
kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to get out of the way. Our 
fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to go rather than just hanging 
on for the win we continually pushed forward in wave after wave and really 
should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was crossing in the area late on. 
For me, this was by far our best performance since the restart and I think it's 
a performance that tips the momentum our way again. I think playing without 
Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe playing with Harrison and Costa 
together is too much of luxury. 
Meslier (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he did well throughout. I worry 
about their goal as he his completely reliant on the wall when he stands that 
far left of the goal. It invites the taker to put it in top right corner and 
when he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that to Philips, at least their 
keeper was able to get across and make an effort, 
Ayling - 8. Bac kto his best, some good defence work and did well getting 
forward too. 
Douglas - 7. Arguably his best game for Leeds. Still unsure about his defensive 
abilities. 
Cooper - 8. Solid.
White - 9. Man of the match for me. Commanding with and without the ball. Luton 
was a blip. 
Allioski - 7. I thought he was busy and really worked hard. Could have had a 
couple himself if he had a brain when it comes to keeping on side. 
Klich - 9. I thought this was Klich at his best. His energy levels and work 
rate in that foirst half were incredible but more importantly he was creating 
chances and mking things happen. Glad he got his goal. 

Phillips - 8. Much better from Kalvin. His free kick was top drawer an 
hopefully we'll see more of these now he's bagged one. I thought he linked up 
the midfield well and worked hard. 
Harrison - 7. Not as involved as usual but certainly had his moment. 
Bamford - 5. I thought he was poor whether it was keeping onside or playing a 
simple pass straight to the opposition. Yes he got his goal and hit the post 
with two side footed shots but he needs to push on. 
Roberts - 5. Didn't do much.
Subs:
Hernandez - lively as always 
Shack - came on and looked lively, I like Shack.
So on to Stoke, Thursday at 5pm , how fecking stupid is that ? 






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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2020-07-05 Thread nattan--- via Leedslist
 When their lad missed the one on one I was trying to think of the last time 
someone actually missed a good chance against us? Cardiff 2 shots on target 2 
goals, luton one shot one goal, Fulham no real chances no goals.We got even 
luckier with the one that hit the post, and having watched it a few times, I 
still dont know why after it hit the post and Harrison faffed about with it , 
lost it, and they put it in the net, it was disallowed.  Thankfully we were one 
up by then and when that stayed the score after their ten minute spell , I 
always felt ok.
( I see Luton joined the huge ranks of teams who perform brilliantly against us 
then totally flop the next game,  5 0 at home ! Shows how much playing us takes 
out of teams)
Bottom line now is if we do as well / badly / averagely ( you pick how you 
think we have done) in the next 4 games as we have in the first 4 and get 7 
points, it means a win at home to ( hopefully) already safe / already relegated 
Charlton guarantees promotion even if Brentford win all their games, possible 
for them but a huge ask, since games v Charlton , fighting for survival and 
Derby,  fighting for the last play off place will not be easy.
The TV again puts us at a bit of a disadvantage with both West Brom and 
Brentford playing their midweek game before us - we could be only 3pts ahead of 
3rd going into it, so ramping up the pressure. Having said that I would not 
swap places with any other team
DaveNerves shredded but believing a bit



n Sunday, 5 July 2020, 10:19:06 BST, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote: 
 
 First 30 minutes was the most open game Leeds have been involved in this 
season and it really could have gone either way. They hit the post and had 
really good opportunites that they should have put away. But once we scored 
through some brilliant harrying from Klich there was only going to be one 
winer. Blackburn put everything into that first 45 minutes and as a result had 
little to offer in the 2nd half apart from one spectacular free kick, which was 
never a free kick in the first place, Philips was just trying to get out of the 
way. Our fitness levels are top notch and with 10 minutes to go rather than 
just hanging on for the win we continually pushed forward in wave after wave 
and really should have doubed out total. Even Douglas was crossing in the area 
late on. 
For me, this was by far our best performance since the restart and I think it's 
a performance that tips the momentum our way again. I think playing without 
Costa gave us a more solid look and maybe playing with Harrison and Costa 
together is too much of luxury. 
Meslier (silent S apparently) - 7. I thought he did well throughout. I worry 
about their goal as he his completely reliant on the wall when he stands that 
far left of the goal. It invites the taker to put it in top right corner and 
when he did, Meslier didn't even move. Compare that to Philips, at least their 
keeper was able to get across and make an effort, 
Ayling - 8. Bac kto his best, some good defence work and did well getting 
forward too. 
Douglas - 7. Arguably his best game for Leeds. Still unsure about his defensive 
abilities. 
Cooper - 8. Solid.
White - 9. Man of the match for me. Commanding with and without the ball. Luton 
was a blip. 
Allioski - 7. I thought he was busy and really worked hard. Could have had a 
couple himself if he had a brain when it comes to keeping on side. 
Klich - 9. I thought this was Klich at his best. His energy levels and work 
rate in that foirst half were incredible but more importantly he was creating 
chances and mking things happen. Glad he got his goal. 

Phillips - 8. Much better from Kalvin. His free kick was top drawer an 
hopefully we'll see more of these now he's bagged one. I thought he linked up 
the midfield well and worked hard. 
Harrison - 7. Not as involved as usual but certainly had his moment. 
Bamford - 5. I thought he was poor whether it was keeping onside or playing a 
simple pass straight to the opposition. Yes he got his goal and hit the post 
with two side footed shots but he needs to push on. 
Roberts - 5. Didn't do much.
Subs:
Hernandez - lively as always 
Shack - came on and looked lively, I like Shack.
So on to Stoke, Thursday at 5pm , how fecking stupid is that ? 






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Re: [LU] Blackburn x 2 tickets available

2019-11-06 Thread kevin leizer
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Re: [LU] Blackburn - still buzzing

2018-12-27 Thread Ted
Great report Dave!

Like you say - games like that make all the suffering worthwhile.  I can't
explain to a person who doesn't "get" football just what that last 5
minutes feels like,  Unbelievable.
The sheer joy when Roofe's header went in!  I'm bloody 60 now and I was
jumping around like my Grandkids on a sugar-rush!

What a few days its been!  I was lucky enough to be ringside in Manchester
for Josh's win against Frampton - what an incredible performance!  Then to
get back to the pub on Sunday to see us come from 2 down to beat Villa at
the death was just superb (plus I had a few quid on a JW/LUFC double at 7
to 1) - could it get any better?  YES! To go down 2-1 in the 91st minute
and to then get the win - I'm still buzzing now!

Who'd have thought we'd be top, and 6 points clear of 3rd at Christmas!
Happy days!

Ted H
p.s. I'm a Leeds fan though, and so have still got this "is it all going to
go wrong" worm in my brain! Goddammit.
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2018-10-22 Thread Nicholas Armit via Leedslist
 Spot on Dave! :-)
Nick
On Monday, October 22, 2018, 6:07:41 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com 
 wrote:  
 
  Must admit I side more with Nic on this one- I dont see how we have been 
'rumbled'. Blackburn scored both goals from straight forward corners delivered 
into the box and headed home. Whilst this is a vulnerability we cannot afford, 
it is not yet a habit and is not the worry it has been in the past.As far as I 
can tell no team has really altered their way of playing to combat Bielsaball 
and we have not bee bullied in the same way we were last timeWhilst I agree and 
accept Bielsa's 'all teams have 4 players out' at any time theory (and isn't it 
a pleasant change for a manager to accept that that is football and not to use 
it as an excuse?) we have been unlucky in the way the absentees have added up - 
v Swansea it was both centre halves, then for a while it was both strikers, 
then v Blackburn it was both full backs, rather than having one from each area 
of the team.
I think we will have a much better idea in a weeks time - we have a game that 
on paper should be a foregone conclusion v the bottom team (ipswich) and then 
another home game v a team below us in the league (Forest) albeit a top ten 
team. Following the defeat v Blackburn we need to win both of these - failure 
to do so will mean a fairly meagre return in out last 6/7 games. We all know 
that there are 'no easy games' in this Division so we will need to be at our 
best or at least 90% to win either of these games.
It is a very long hard season and there will be great results and poor results 
along the way (don't forget a Wolves side who almost strolled the Division last 
year , the best team by a mile, still lost 7 games.
Although we were beaten by Blackburn it could easily be argued that we deserved 
a point and they did not do enough in open play to deserve the win, so it is 
not as if we were beaten 4 0 or played off the pitch
We need to have faith and just enjoy the ride and the football (our goal on 
Saturday came at the end of a 14 pass move -or 9 if you start counting from 
when BPF last touches it- this despite the fact that (for the first time this 
season) I was screaming "hoof it / get it forward there is only a minute to go" 
from the comfort of my armchair. Bielsa has his way and he is sticking to it 
whatever, we either believe in it and him or we call for his head and get 
another manager in, and I know which I favour.
Hopefully we will have Izzy Brown and Patrick Bamford fit and ready for the 
Christmas period and that will be to quote the cliche 'like two new signings' 
and two good ones at that
Dave

    On Sunday, 21 October 2018, 22:57:11 BST, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
  I really do not understand. Blackburn were definitely not better than us. Yes 
they had some good moments but so id we. We have played against all types of 
teams now and besides maybe Swansea away I do not think we have looked second 
best in any. I think our biggest fault is not converting chances, and that is a 
worry. But "rumbled"? Nah.
Nick
    On Sunday, October 21, 2018, 1:35:23 PM EDT, David Smail 
 wrote:  
 
 I think we're in great danger of being "rumbled"

I mentioned this after the Brentford game and it's holding true.

Teams have seen our pressing forward play  and used that against us. We
don't  appear to do very well at countering it. An ironic if not mildly
amusing picture.

Blackburn out-did us in many areas and as our glorious leader said "We only
really started to play when we were losing. This is a defect" or similar
words. There were huge questions asked at the start of the season whether we
could plays MB's style with the players we currently have and although we've
done remarkably well , I think we're looking vulnerable when teams play our
own style against us.

 

Dave

 

 

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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2018-10-22 Thread nat...@sky.com
 Must admit I side more with Nic on this one- I dont see how we have been 
'rumbled'. Blackburn scored both goals from straight forward corners delivered 
into the box and headed home. Whilst this is a vulnerability we cannot afford, 
it is not yet a habit and is not the worry it has been in the past.As far as I 
can tell no team has really altered their way of playing to combat Bielsaball 
and we have not bee bullied in the same way we were last timeWhilst I agree and 
accept Bielsa's 'all teams have 4 players out' at any time theory (and isn't it 
a pleasant change for a manager to accept that that is football and not to use 
it as an excuse?) we have been unlucky in the way the absentees have added up - 
v Swansea it was both centre halves, then for a while it was both strikers, 
then v Blackburn it was both full backs, rather than having one from each area 
of the team.
I think we will have a much better idea in a weeks time - we have a game that 
on paper should be a foregone conclusion v the bottom team (ipswich) and then 
another home game v a team below us in the league (Forest) albeit a top ten 
team. Following the defeat v Blackburn we need to win both of these - failure 
to do so will mean a fairly meagre return in out last 6/7 games. We all know 
that there are 'no easy games' in this Division so we will need to be at our 
best or at least 90% to win either of these games.
It is a very long hard season and there will be great results and poor results 
along the way (don't forget a Wolves side who almost strolled the Division last 
year , the best team by a mile, still lost 7 games.
Although we were beaten by Blackburn it could easily be argued that we deserved 
a point and they did not do enough in open play to deserve the win, so it is 
not as if we were beaten 4 0 or played off the pitch
We need to have faith and just enjoy the ride and the football (our goal on 
Saturday came at the end of a 14 pass move -or 9 if you start counting from 
when BPF last touches it- this despite the fact that (for the first time this 
season) I was screaming "hoof it / get it forward there is only a minute to go" 
from the comfort of my armchair. Bielsa has his way and he is sticking to it 
whatever, we either believe in it and him or we call for his head and get 
another manager in, and I know which I favour.
Hopefully we will have Izzy Brown and Patrick Bamford fit and ready for the 
Christmas period and that will be to quote the cliche 'like two new signings' 
and two good ones at that
Dave

On Sunday, 21 October 2018, 22:57:11 BST, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
  I really do not understand. Blackburn were definitely not better than us. Yes 
they had some good moments but so id we. We have played against all types of 
teams now and besides maybe Swansea away I do not think we have looked second 
best in any. I think our biggest fault is not converting chances, and that is a 
worry. But "rumbled"? Nah.
Nick
    On Sunday, October 21, 2018, 1:35:23 PM EDT, David Smail 
 wrote:  
 
 I think we're in great danger of being "rumbled"

I mentioned this after the Brentford game and it's holding true.

Teams have seen our pressing forward play  and used that against us. We
don't  appear to do very well at countering it. An ironic if not mildly
amusing picture.

Blackburn out-did us in many areas and as our glorious leader said "We only
really started to play when we were losing. This is a defect" or similar
words. There were huge questions asked at the start of the season whether we
could plays MB's style with the players we currently have and although we've
done remarkably well , I think we're looking vulnerable when teams play our
own style against us.

 

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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2018-10-21 Thread Nicholas Armit via Leedslist
 I really do not understand. Blackburn were definitely not better than us. Yes 
they had some good moments but so id we. We have played against all types of 
teams now and besides maybe Swansea away I do not think we have looked second 
best in any. I think our biggest fault is not converting chances, and that is a 
worry. But "rumbled"? Nah.
Nick
On Sunday, October 21, 2018, 1:35:23 PM EDT, David Smail 
 wrote:  
 
 I think we're in great danger of being "rumbled"

I mentioned this after the Brentford game and it's holding true.

Teams have seen our pressing forward play  and used that against us. We
don't  appear to do very well at countering it. An ironic if not mildly
amusing picture.

Blackburn out-did us in many areas and as our glorious leader said "We only
really started to play when we were losing. This is a defect" or similar
words. There were huge questions asked at the start of the season whether we
could plays MB's style with the players we currently have and although we've
done remarkably well , I think we're looking vulnerable when teams play our
own style against us.

 

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Re: [LU] Blackburn game

2018-10-19 Thread tim.whelan via Leedslist
I presume they are allowed to show the game live as the only time they wouldn't 
be allowed to do so is Saturday from 3 to 5.


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: 
nat...@sky.com Date: 19/10/2018  20:56  (GMT+00:00) To: Leeds List 
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn game 
In case people do the same as me and check Sky listing for 12pm tomorrow (and 
finding Chelsea) it would appear that we are indeed on Sky TV but via the red 
button (so one camera and no replays ?) I had  thought this was only the case 
for midweek gamesDave
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2016-09-21 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
>From what I've seen he's bang average - I'd rather go with the young lad 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Sep 2016, at 14:52, Ian Murray  wrote:
> 
> Have seen fuck all of us this year but I have thought that Ayling has looked 
> half decent.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 21 Sep 2016, at 20:03, - -  wrote:
>> 
>>  fair enough report thanks Dave...I think Coyle may have done enough as
>>  Ayling is no great shakes...really want Breradi back in good
>>  shape...and Vieira will reward perseverance I think...on Silvestri's
>>  kicking, what I don't get is why he does it, Green rarely does...he's
>>  always looking for the throw out...
>> 
>>  Phillips is a charlatan. Although Radio Leeds were bigging him up again
>>  after last night...
>> 
>>  Nick
>> 
>>On 21 September 2016 at 00:01 "nat...@sky.com" 
>>wrote:
>>I would love to say that the meagre crowd of 8,448 were treated to a
>>game of thrills and spills and were kept fully entertained for  a
>>full 90mins, but this was far from the case - it was very poor
>>indeed
>>You would not have guessed that  a number of leeds players were out
>>there trying to impress to get a chance of a starting spot - Cooper,
>>Coyle, Mowatt, Roofe, Antonsson, Phillips, Vieirra are all in the
>>squad normally but not in the team , and , on this showing you could
>>see why.
>>A roar went up just as I took my seat as a shot from Coyle went
>>close but that was it from us until Roofe dragged one wide on 43
>>minutes. They were not much better, a dive from the centre forward,
>>a shot that went wide and another that went into the side netting
>>was all they could muster other than a long range shot that
>>Silvestri saved with 'one for the cameras' - we all agreed he should
>>have saved it but some did point out that Green had conceded two in
>>two in similar circumstances. Once again though Silvestri was let
>>down by his very wayward kicking - at least 2 straight into touch,
>>Second half was more of the same for 20mins as the game looked like
>>being a 0 0 stalemate and no-one in the crowd wanting an extra
>>30mins of this dross. Then Emmes came on for them and forced
>>sivestri into a great double save - the first with his feet,
>>followed by a poor punch and then a great tip round the post as the
>>rebound was shot back at him.We retailiated by bringing on Hernandez
>>and then Wood and we looked a totally different team - carving out a
>>couple of chances.The goal, to suit such a game was a bit of a farce
>>- Hernandez shot from distance - it was saved and come to Roofe who
>>should have scored (he also missed a header)  but that was blocked
>>and went to Wood whose first shot was stopped and the rebound was
>>bundled in. With only 5 mins to go we were able to hold on.
>>Not much esle to say - I was impressed with O'Kane in the first
>>15mins but nothing after, Phillips is NOT a footballer, Vieirra IS
>>but needs to learn his trade and even more obvious Mowatt is not a
>>right winger and playing him there is the sort of decision that will
>>get Monk sacked. Not sure if he was wide right as part of a 3 with
>>Roofe and Antonsson or more as it appeared as part of a 5 with
>>Phiilips, Vieirra and O'Kane in the middle
>>Grimes looked tidy in the 5 minutes he was on at the end. Antonsson
>>cannot lead the line as a lone striker
>>We won and are through and that is all that counts - Wood and
>>Hernandez making the difference in a game that will soon be
>>forgotten
>>So well done the 8,448 who bothered, not sure it was worth it
>>Dave
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2016-09-21 Thread Ian Murray
Have seen fuck all of us this year but I have thought that Ayling has looked 
half decent.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Sep 2016, at 20:03, - -  wrote:
> 
>   fair enough report thanks Dave...I think Coyle may have done enough as
>   Ayling is no great shakes...really want Breradi back in good
>   shape...and Vieira will reward perseverance I think...on Silvestri's
>   kicking, what I don't get is why he does it, Green rarely does...he's
>   always looking for the throw out...
> 
>   Phillips is a charlatan. Although Radio Leeds were bigging him up again
>   after last night...
> 
>   Nick
> 
> On 21 September 2016 at 00:01 "nat...@sky.com" 
> wrote:
> I would love to say that the meagre crowd of 8,448 were treated to a
> game of thrills and spills and were kept fully entertained for  a
> full 90mins, but this was far from the case - it was very poor
> indeed
> You would not have guessed that  a number of leeds players were out
> there trying to impress to get a chance of a starting spot - Cooper,
> Coyle, Mowatt, Roofe, Antonsson, Phillips, Vieirra are all in the
> squad normally but not in the team , and , on this showing you could
> see why.
> A roar went up just as I took my seat as a shot from Coyle went
> close but that was it from us until Roofe dragged one wide on 43
> minutes. They were not much better, a dive from the centre forward,
> a shot that went wide and another that went into the side netting
> was all they could muster other than a long range shot that
> Silvestri saved with 'one for the cameras' - we all agreed he should
> have saved it but some did point out that Green had conceded two in
> two in similar circumstances. Once again though Silvestri was let
> down by his very wayward kicking - at least 2 straight into touch,
> Second half was more of the same for 20mins as the game looked like
> being a 0 0 stalemate and no-one in the crowd wanting an extra
> 30mins of this dross. Then Emmes came on for them and forced
> sivestri into a great double save - the first with his feet,
> followed by a poor punch and then a great tip round the post as the
> rebound was shot back at him.We retailiated by bringing on Hernandez
> and then Wood and we looked a totally different team - carving out a
> couple of chances.The goal, to suit such a game was a bit of a farce
> - Hernandez shot from distance - it was saved and come to Roofe who
> should have scored (he also missed a header)  but that was blocked
> and went to Wood whose first shot was stopped and the rebound was
> bundled in. With only 5 mins to go we were able to hold on.
> Not much esle to say - I was impressed with O'Kane in the first
> 15mins but nothing after, Phillips is NOT a footballer, Vieirra IS
> but needs to learn his trade and even more obvious Mowatt is not a
> right winger and playing him there is the sort of decision that will
> get Monk sacked. Not sure if he was wide right as part of a 3 with
> Roofe and Antonsson or more as it appeared as part of a 5 with
> Phiilips, Vieirra and O'Kane in the middle
> Grimes looked tidy in the 5 minutes he was on at the end. Antonsson
> cannot lead the line as a lone striker
> We won and are through and that is all that counts - Wood and
> Hernandez making the difference in a game that will soon be
> forgotten
> So well done the 8,448 who bothered, not sure it was worth it
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2016-09-21 Thread - -
   fair enough report thanks Dave...I think Coyle may have done enough as
   Ayling is no great shakes...really want Breradi back in good
   shape...and Vieira will reward perseverance I think...on Silvestri's
   kicking, what I don't get is why he does it, Green rarely does...he's
   always looking for the throw out...

   Phillips is a charlatan. Although Radio Leeds were bigging him up again
   after last night...

   Nick

 On 21 September 2016 at 00:01 "nat...@sky.com" 
 wrote:
 I would love to say that the meagre crowd of 8,448 were treated to a
 game of thrills and spills and were kept fully entertained for  a
 full 90mins, but this was far from the case - it was very poor
 indeed
 You would not have guessed that  a number of leeds players were out
 there trying to impress to get a chance of a starting spot - Cooper,
 Coyle, Mowatt, Roofe, Antonsson, Phillips, Vieirra are all in the
 squad normally but not in the team , and , on this showing you could
 see why.
 A roar went up just as I took my seat as a shot from Coyle went
 close but that was it from us until Roofe dragged one wide on 43
 minutes. They were not much better, a dive from the centre forward,
 a shot that went wide and another that went into the side netting
 was all they could muster other than a long range shot that
 Silvestri saved with 'one for the cameras' - we all agreed he should
 have saved it but some did point out that Green had conceded two in
 two in similar circumstances. Once again though Silvestri was let
 down by his very wayward kicking - at least 2 straight into touch,
 Second half was more of the same for 20mins as the game looked like
 being a 0 0 stalemate and no-one in the crowd wanting an extra
 30mins of this dross. Then Emmes came on for them and forced
 sivestri into a great double save - the first with his feet,
 followed by a poor punch and then a great tip round the post as the
 rebound was shot back at him.We retailiated by bringing on Hernandez
 and then Wood and we looked a totally different team - carving out a
 couple of chances.The goal, to suit such a game was a bit of a farce
 - Hernandez shot from distance - it was saved and come to Roofe who
 should have scored (he also missed a header)  but that was blocked
 and went to Wood whose first shot was stopped and the rebound was
 bundled in. With only 5 mins to go we were able to hold on.
 Not much esle to say - I was impressed with O'Kane in the first
 15mins but nothing after, Phillips is NOT a footballer, Vieirra IS
 but needs to learn his trade and even more obvious Mowatt is not a
 right winger and playing him there is the sort of decision that will
 get Monk sacked. Not sure if he was wide right as part of a 3 with
 Roofe and Antonsson or more as it appeared as part of a 5 with
 Phiilips, Vieirra and O'Kane in the middle
 Grimes looked tidy in the 5 minutes he was on at the end. Antonsson
 cannot lead the line as a lone striker
 We won and are through and that is all that counts - Wood and
 Hernandez making the difference in a game that will soon be
 forgotten
 So well done the 8,448 who bothered, not sure it was worth it
 Dave
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2016-09-21 Thread {broken-address}
Yep, ta for the report Dave. Am not sure you're persuading me to get down there 
though :-(

Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Sep 2016, at 00:21, Rob Heath  wrote:
> 
> Thank YOU Dave..as always we long-distance fans are indebted to
> you for being bothered to a) go to the game, and b) write such a detailed
> report.
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 7:01 AM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:
>> 
>> I would love to say that the meagre crowd of 8,448 were treated to a game
>> of thrills and spills and were kept fully entertained for  a full 90mins,
>> but this was far from the case - it was very poor indeed
>> You would not have guessed that  a number of leeds players were out there
>> trying to impress to get a chance of a starting spot - Cooper, Coyle,
>> Mowatt, Roofe, Antonsson, Phillips, Vieirra are all in the squad normally
>> but not in the team , and , on this showing you could see why.
>> A roar went up just as I took my seat as a shot from Coyle went close but
>> that was it from us until Roofe dragged one wide on 43 minutes. They were
>> not much better, a dive from the centre forward, a shot that went wide and
>> another that went into the side netting was all they could muster other
>> than a long range shot that Silvestri saved with 'one for the cameras' - we
>> all agreed he should have saved it but some did point out that Green had
>> conceded two in two in similar circumstances. Once again though Silvestri
>> was let down by his very wayward kicking - at least 2 straight into touch,
>> Second half was more of the same for 20mins as the game looked like being
>> a 0 0 stalemate and no-one in the crowd wanting an extra 30mins of this
>> dross. Then Emmes came on for them and forced sivestri into a great double
>> save - the first with his feet, followed by a poor punch and then a great
>> tip round the post as the rebound was shot back at him.We retailiated by
>> bringing on Hernandez and then Wood and we looked a totally different team
>> - carving out a couple of chances.The goal, to suit such a game was a bit
>> of a farce - Hernandez shot from distance - it was saved and come to Roofe
>> who should have scored (he also missed a header)  but that was blocked and
>> went to Wood whose first shot was stopped and the rebound was bundled in.
>> With only 5 mins to go we were able to hold on.
>> Not much esle to say - I was impressed with O'Kane in the first 15mins but
>> nothing after, Phillips is NOT a footballer, Vieirra IS but needs to learn
>> his trade and even more obvious Mowatt is not a right winger and playing
>> him there is the sort of decision that will get Monk sacked. Not sure if he
>> was wide right as part of a 3 with Roofe and Antonsson or more as it
>> appeared as part of a 5 with Phiilips, Vieirra and O'Kane in the middle
>> Grimes looked tidy in the 5 minutes he was on at the end. Antonsson cannot
>> lead the line as a lone striker
>> We won and are through and that is all that counts - Wood and Hernandez
>> making the difference in a game that will soon be forgotten
>> So well done the 8,448 who bothered, not sure it was worth it
>> Dave
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2016-09-20 Thread Rob Heath
Thank YOU Dave..as always we long-distance fans are indebted to
you for being bothered to a) go to the game, and b) write such a detailed
report.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 7:01 AM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> I would love to say that the meagre crowd of 8,448 were treated to a game
> of thrills and spills and were kept fully entertained for  a full 90mins,
> but this was far from the case - it was very poor indeed
> You would not have guessed that  a number of leeds players were out there
> trying to impress to get a chance of a starting spot - Cooper, Coyle,
> Mowatt, Roofe, Antonsson, Phillips, Vieirra are all in the squad normally
> but not in the team , and , on this showing you could see why.
> A roar went up just as I took my seat as a shot from Coyle went close but
> that was it from us until Roofe dragged one wide on 43 minutes. They were
> not much better, a dive from the centre forward, a shot that went wide and
> another that went into the side netting was all they could muster other
> than a long range shot that Silvestri saved with 'one for the cameras' - we
> all agreed he should have saved it but some did point out that Green had
> conceded two in two in similar circumstances. Once again though Silvestri
> was let down by his very wayward kicking - at least 2 straight into touch,
> Second half was more of the same for 20mins as the game looked like being
> a 0 0 stalemate and no-one in the crowd wanting an extra 30mins of this
> dross. Then Emmes came on for them and forced sivestri into a great double
> save - the first with his feet, followed by a poor punch and then a great
> tip round the post as the rebound was shot back at him.We retailiated by
> bringing on Hernandez and then Wood and we looked a totally different team
> - carving out a couple of chances.The goal, to suit such a game was a bit
> of a farce - Hernandez shot from distance - it was saved and come to Roofe
> who should have scored (he also missed a header)  but that was blocked and
> went to Wood whose first shot was stopped and the rebound was bundled in.
> With only 5 mins to go we were able to hold on.
> Not much esle to say - I was impressed with O'Kane in the first 15mins but
> nothing after, Phillips is NOT a footballer, Vieirra IS but needs to learn
> his trade and even more obvious Mowatt is not a right winger and playing
> him there is the sort of decision that will get Monk sacked. Not sure if he
> was wide right as part of a 3 with Roofe and Antonsson or more as it
> appeared as part of a 5 with Phiilips, Vieirra and O'Kane in the middle
> Grimes looked tidy in the 5 minutes he was on at the end. Antonsson cannot
> lead the line as a lone striker
> We won and are through and that is all that counts - Wood and Hernandez
> making the difference in a game that will soon be forgotten
> So well done the 8,448 who bothered, not sure it was worth it
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2016-03-14 Thread Phill Shields
Cheers Dave as always. Reminder our 1st goal against Notlob last week was also 
from a corner ;-)

> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 18:04:31 +
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Blackburn
> 
> This will be fairly short - 3 hours sleep (after a cub sleepover at Legoland) 
> 5 pints of Thwaites bitter, 6 paracetamol, 4 codeine phosphate tablets, and 
> 40mils of oramorph on top of my 60mgs of slow release morphine is not great 
> for a detailed analysis of the game !!The leeds end (lower tier) was packed 
> and we spent the first 5 minutes finding where are seats were and then 
> standing somewhere else since it was a bit of a free for allBerardi and Bamba 
> kept their places at the back, our goal scoring 'heroes' from midweek started 
> up front again with Mowatt Cook Dave and Bridcutt making up the 
> midfield.Blackburn started the brighter with lots of action down our flanks - 
> the pitch at Blackburn (which was in poor condition) is a bit strange in that 
> it extends 2 yards from the line and then has a massive camber (on the left 
> side as we looked at it)- thankfully these crosses came in 2 types , rubbish 
> ones that went behind the goal, too far to the far side or just generally 
> poor or 
 th
>  e odd decent one that just eluded the attacker in the box.It was what it 
> was, two average Championship (Division Two let us remember) teams with 
> little, if anything to play for. So not much in the way of enterprising or 
> exciting stuff. We seemed to have adopted a very odd tactic - Silvestri 
> kicking the ball, ball from hand and deadballs, very wide to the left hand 
> side. This was an old Leeds tactic and was successful for a few seasons, but 
> this was when we had Speed or Bradley Johnson on that side, players who were 
> decent in the air and who tended to have the better of the full back. Today 
> we had Mowatt and Doukara, neither of whom are good in the air coupled with a 
> lack of precision from the keeper, so , surprise surprise it did not bring us 
> any joy.The game settled into a bit of a stalemate with the feeling that 
> first goal would lead to a winning teamLo and behold and an early Easter 
> miracle, we got a corner and Bamba hooked it not over the bar but actually 
> into the net 
 - 
>  a goal, an actual goal from a corner.This rocked them and encouraged us and 
> we were the better team for the rest of the half.A trip to the toilet at half 
> time has probably given me cancer from passive smoking - the smoke haze 
> coming down from the roof to about waist height - it really was bad.We 
> continued the second half where we left the first, a decent display, the 
> better team but mixing decent passages of play with needless errors.Then, 
> game over, well sort of, a corner / free kick to them led to them sending all 
> the team up into our box, a quick break and the ball came to Antenucci, he 
> took it on and ran directly for goal (similar to midweek) his touch in the 
> box let him down and we thought he was going to cross to Doukara in the 6 
> yard bit, but instead he lashed it into the corner,a lovely finish.From then 
> on we controlled things a bit as they huffed and puffed. Wood got his welcome 
> return and Dallas also got a run out.Then on 87 minutes - crime of all 
> crimes, my mate
 s 
>  decided we had to leave to get our pre booked taxi! As we got outside we 
> heard a roar (ok a cheer) followed by some silly music, oh shit, we were 
> going to throw it away, followed by a tannoy saying 6 minutes extra. We, by 
> hook or crook (I do not know) saw that time out and got a win - 3 on the 
> bounce. 
> We should be ecstatic or at least hopeful with that but we aren't. Yes 3 wins 
> in 3 is great but there is no feeling of 'yes, we have it sorted' -we still 
> do not know our best team or formation . Each victory stands very much on its 
> own and all of them could have been defeats (yes , we have lost games that we 
> could have won too) Yes it stops us getting dragged into the relegation scrap 
> and full kudos to Evans but Roll on Hudds next week at home,a game we 
> could and should win, but the last 3 games will have little say in it
> Final comment. No -one is sure why this game was a 12.30 kick off, I have 
> seen some suggestion that it was due to 'misbehaviuor ' by fans last season. 
> 2 things of note, 1 we found a proper old style pub in the town centre that 
> treated us brilliantly. The landlord came over and had a chat with us, sorted 
> us a taxi to the ground and even came outside to make sure we got it ok. 
> Second, after the game I was at the station, when a group of Leeds fans came 
> up to the platform from the tunnel singing 'we are Leeds' . A large number of 
> police on the platform went charging down and formed a cordon and basically 
> grabbed the 'frontline' threatening to arrest them and warning them to be 
> quietNot saying the two were connected (clearly they were not) or that they 
> 'explain' 

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2016-03-12 Thread Richard Walker
Cheers Dave, fuck me that's a cocktail of drugs.

As an official part-timer these wins will be drawing me back for the town game.

We are Leeds ,

> On 12 Mar 2016, at 18:04, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> This will be fairly short - 3 hours sleep (after a cub sleepover at Legoland) 
> 5 pints of Thwaites bitter, 6 paracetamol, 4 codeine phosphate tablets, and 
> 40mils of oramorph on top of my 60mgs of slow release morphine is not great 
> for a detailed analysis of the game !!The leeds end (lower tier) was packed 
> and we spent the first 5 minutes finding where are seats were and then 
> standing somewhere else since it was a bit of a free for allBerardi and Bamba 
> kept their places at the back, our goal scoring 'heroes' from midweek started 
> up front again with Mowatt Cook Dave and Bridcutt making up the 
> midfield.Blackburn started the brighter with lots of action down our flanks - 
> the pitch at Blackburn (which was in poor condition) is a bit strange in that 
> it extends 2 yards from the line and then has a massive camber (on the left 
> side as we looked at it)- thankfully these crosses came in 2 types , rubbish 
> ones that went behind the goal, too far to the far side or just generally 
> poor or 
 th
> e odd decent one that just eluded the attacker in the box.It was what it was, 
> two average Championship (Division Two let us remember) teams with little, if 
> anything to play for. So not much in the way of enterprising or exciting 
> stuff. We seemed to have adopted a very odd tactic - Silvestri kicking the 
> ball, ball from hand and deadballs, very wide to the left hand side. This was 
> an old Leeds tactic and was successful for a few seasons, but this was when 
> we had Speed or Bradley Johnson on that side, players who were decent in the 
> air and who tended to have the better of the full back. Today we had Mowatt 
> and Doukara, neither of whom are good in the air coupled with a lack of 
> precision from the keeper, so , surprise surprise it did not bring us any 
> joy.The game settled into a bit of a stalemate with the feeling that first 
> goal would lead to a winning teamLo and behold and an early Easter miracle, 
> we got a corner and Bamba hooked it not over the bar but actually into the 
> net -
  
> a goal, an actual goal from a corner.This rocked them and encouraged us and 
> we were the better team for the rest of the half.A trip to the toilet at half 
> time has probably given me cancer from passive smoking - the smoke haze 
> coming down from the roof to about waist height - it really was bad.We 
> continued the second half where we left the first, a decent display, the 
> better team but mixing decent passages of play with needless errors.Then, 
> game over, well sort of, a corner / free kick to them led to them sending all 
> the team up into our box, a quick break and the ball came to Antenucci, he 
> took it on and ran directly for goal (similar to midweek) his touch in the 
> box let him down and we thought he was going to cross to Doukara in the 6 
> yard bit, but instead he lashed it into the corner,a lovely finish.From then 
> on we controlled things a bit as they huffed and puffed. Wood got his welcome 
> return and Dallas also got a run out.Then on 87 minutes - crime of all 
> crimes, my mates
  
> decided we had to leave to get our pre booked taxi! As we got outside we 
> heard a roar (ok a cheer) followed by some silly music, oh shit, we were 
> going to throw it away, followed by a tannoy saying 6 minutes extra. We, by 
> hook or crook (I do not know) saw that time out and got a win - 3 on the 
> bounce. 
> We should be ecstatic or at least hopeful with that but we aren't. Yes 3 wins 
> in 3 is great but there is no feeling of 'yes, we have it sorted' -we still 
> do not know our best team or formation . Each victory stands very much on its 
> own and all of them could have been defeats (yes , we have lost games that we 
> could have won too) Yes it stops us getting dragged into the relegation scrap 
> and full kudos to Evans but Roll on Hudds next week at home,a game we 
> could and should win, but the last 3 games will have little say in it
> Final comment. No -one is sure why this game was a 12.30 kick off, I have 
> seen some suggestion that it was due to 'misbehaviuor ' by fans last season. 
> 2 things of note, 1 we found a proper old style pub in the town centre that 
> treated us brilliantly. The landlord came over and had a chat with us, sorted 
> us a taxi to the ground and even came outside to make sure we got it ok. 
> Second, after the game I was at the station, when a group of Leeds fans came 
> up to the platform from the tunnel singing 'we are Leeds' . A large number of 
> police on the platform went charging down and formed a cordon and basically 
> grabbed the 'frontline' threatening to arrest them and warning them to be 
> quietNot saying the two were connected (clearly they were not) or that they 
> 'explain' 

Re: [LU] Blackburn report

2015-04-05 Thread Nick Allen
Tend to agree with much Dave says.

Let's have the penalty incident right as it appeared to those of us in the 
ground (not saying Dave's wrong). Our corner from the right, over by Murphy, 
bit of head tennis, it's cleared up field, the game goes on, the ball goes into 
touch and the referee runs back 40 yards to see what the linesman is waving his 
flag about. We all thought it must be one of those corners that had bent out of 
play before coming back in...hence requiring that we all go back for a dead 
ball. Because there had been no visible casualties, no one on the ground, no 
appeal from Blackburn players (and trust me they were after the ref for 
everything), but no, he tells the ref something...which eventually gets Austin 
sent-off. One of the weirdest sendings off I've ever seen.

From then on a balanced but dull game ran away from us, some suicidal defending 
from Bellusci and later Cooper did for us. They got 3; hit the woodwork 3 
times; and Silvestri made a couple of belting saves.

But what's this rumour that Antenucci is on a contract that eventually 
penalises us if he scores too many goals...can that be right? With Leeds Utd 
possibly. It is the only reason on gods green earth that Morrison was selected 
ahead of him yesterday...and that allegedly Thompson got suspended for telling 
somebody that him and Redfearn's pick the team and they want Antenucci in there 
whatever the contracts say. None of this can be right can it...?

Very despondent after that second half yesterday and with the club in general.

Sent from my iPad

 On 4 Apr 2015, at 20:27, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
 Not really sure what to say about today. Before the game we were talking 
 about Thompson, Redfearn, Antenucci and Red Bull. We agreed that if Thompson 
 was sacked for 'not being effective' it was harsh to say the least. If it 
 means Redders leaving then my mates were happy enough with that. The 
 Antenucci thing, as I pointed out, was a typical contract thing - I recall 
 going on the ER tour run by John McLelland and he told about himself winning 
 6 man of the match awards in 7 games and getting dropped , it turned out that 
 the team he was at had to pay £20k to his old team if he played 10games and 
 since promotion was not on the cards they did not want to pay it. So given 
 where we are in the League it makes some sense not to play Antenucci. As for 
 Red Bull, my only concern is will they honour my 20yrST? Overall we were 
 happy with RB but it would depend on how much they want to change things - 
 Red Bull of Leeds and and a new kit, no thanks. Leeds United sponsored by 
 Red Bull - yes please.As for LLTP or whatever the latest fans group is called 
 , of the 6 of us, all dyed in the wool, long time season ticket holders, not 
 one of us said we would pay £10 let alone £100 to put a 'fan' on the board.We 
 were also a bit unsure as to the Chris and Kevin stuff and this when 2 of the 
 lads actually knew one of them and went to Lloyds for the 'memorial' session. 
 I really do not want to upset anyone and I refuse to go to Turkey because of 
 it all, but I think it is a part of our history that we should all be aware 
 of but should not be marked every yearSo on to the game - what a waste of 
 time, a totally forgettable first half followed by total capitulation in the 
 second.We were slightly the better team for 40mins but did not really do much 
 and never really caused them any problems but they did have one chance that 
 hit the woodwork. I know it is hard for Redfearn but what was the point of 
 todays line up? Why did Dawson  Phillips not start ? We have 6 or so games 
 to go, games that are all pointless, so lets find out who is good enough ? Is 
 Dawson, who is the stand out player for the u21 Development squad , robust 
 and physical enough for this league ? Can Phillips cut it at this level and 
 why no Del Fabro or Montenegro ?We all knew after 5 minutes that this game 
 was a waste of time really and would tell us nothing. Even if by some fluke 
 Morison gets a goal, is there anyone who thinks he will go on a run and get 5 
 in the next 5 and start next season on fire?Whatever, the crowd had a good 
 silence for Kevin and Chris and got behind both Redfearn and Thompson without 
 slagging off Cellino or anyone else.We watched the game for 30 minutes with 
 nothing to excite or worry us. then came the defining moment. No-one round me 
 had a clue what had happened but suddenly the ref, with no one surrounding 
 him and no one on the floor etc was waving a red card around. Who was it 
 aimed at, what had they done ? No-one knew until after a few minutes Austin 
 went off down the tunnel. Was the ref right or wrong ? No idea and nor had 
 anyone near meWhatever, we saw out the last few minutes of the half, glad to 
 do so and thinking Redders had 20minutes to plan things and to, hopefully, 
 prove that stupid and false adage it is harder to play agianst 10 than 11 
 true. But he didn't 

Re: [LU] bLACKBURN

2014-11-22 Thread wayne callaghan
   Get in .. shame adrian's shot was tipped over , it was a cracking shot.

   Wayne

   On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 3:35 pm, Jeremy Thorpe
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Re: [LU] Blackburn. Quick report.

2014-11-22 Thread Jim Moran
I don't think we'll see multi camera coverage - you only get that for featured 
matches. We beat ourselves again.

--

 On 22 Nov 2014, at 17:39, David Smail dsm...@dsmail.plus.com wrote:
 
 Watched this on a www single camera dodgy feed.
 Both teams playing the same style. Fast and tight passing - great to watch,
 especially for us. Hardly a hoof in sight.
 Not a huge amount of goal mouth stuff but entertaining none the less.
 Our goal came from half cleared corner - still anyone's game at that point.
 2nd half we slowed down and seemed to lose direction urgency and drive.
 Blackburn carried on as first half and were more likely to score.
 Their equaliser came from disaster in our defence. Keeper and defender
 couldn't decide who should clear a ball into the box and in the end neither
 did allowing speculative striker a tap in. (Head in hands stuff)
 After that we woke up again and the match carried on pretty much as first
 half. 
 We hit a post on a counter, but they were given a pen from what looked like
 a dive - I saw no replay, but gut reaction was a dive - ref gave it. Multi
 camera coverage will show what truly happened but we'll have to wait for
 that. 
 Frantic finish with us on top and them down to 10, but that's how it ended.
 I felt robbed as I was proud of how the team played and performed and
 Blackburn must know they were lucky to win this. Draw would have been a fair
 outcome
 A great game to watch, both teams deserve a standing ovation but very down
 hearted we walk away with nothing. Still, very very positive style of play.
 Neil Redfearn, I approve! 
 
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Andy Pyzer
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ustream-leeds 
 
  
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Our best tram out
Were losing 0-2 after 36 minutes.
Still want the link?
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Wayne
   Should be 4 down...
   Poor defending
   No imagination in the middle
   45 minutes of poor football to go
   Happy New Year
   Wayne
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   Our best tram out
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   Still want the link?
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[1]http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ustream-leeds
   
   
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Richard Walker
Absolutely shite. Should be buried by now.

No pace - Murphy and Austin shite

School boy defending 
Pugh lots of ball but what's he gonna do with it - he's shite.

4-3 to Leeds (I'm still pissed from last night )

 On 1 Jan 2014, at 15:51, Wayne ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote:
 
   Should be 4 down...
   Poor defending
   No imagination in the middle
   45 minutes of poor football to go
   Happy New Year
   Wayne
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   Our best tram out
   Were losing 0-2 after 36 minutes.
   Still want the link?
   On 1 Jan 2014 17:08, Andy Pyzer wrote:
 [1]http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ustream-leeds
 
 
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Chris Briggs
snip Our best tram out snip

I know it's a typo but I can't help but feel this would have been a better 
selection than half if the team, certainly a lot more mobile, they could have 
parked it in front of the goal.
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Richard Walker
Murphy off - nice one Brian. He has got a brain.

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 snip Our best tram out snip
 
 I know it's a typo but I can't help but feel this would have been a better 
 selection than half if the team, certainly a lot more mobile, they could have 
 parked it in front of the goal.
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Jim Moran
Murphy off and we've gone 442 finally. 

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 On 1 Jan 2014, at 15:54, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Absolutely shite. Should be buried by now.
 
 No pace - Murphy and Austin shite
 
 School boy defending 
 Pugh lots of ball but what's he gonna do with it - he's shite.
 
 4-3 to Leeds (I'm still pissed from last night )
 
 On 1 Jan 2014, at 15:51, Wayne ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote:
 
  Should be 4 down...
  Poor defending
  No imagination in the middle
  45 minutes of poor football to go
  Happy New Year
  Wayne
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  Our best tram out
  Were losing 0-2 after 36 minutes.
  Still want the link?
  On 1 Jan 2014 17:08, Andy Pyzer wrote:
 [1]http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ustream-leeds
 
 
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread David Smail
It's been coming for months. We are clueless and panic in possession which
normally leads to a hoof as the pressure and burden of possession gets too
much.
We have no money so don't expect any great signings - just the usual crop of
has beens. Interesting to see what happens though. Wouldn't mind losing
all the time if we were on the right track, but we're simply awful and I'm
nearing the point where disappointment gives way to becoming ashamed!
The good people of Leeds still paying to watch this? I raise my glass to you
all.

Dave




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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Brendan Osborne
Get in Matt Smith 1-2 now!

MOT

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 Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn link here
 
 It's been coming for months. We are clueless and panic in possession which
 normally leads to a hoof as the pressure and burden of possession gets too
 much.
 We have no money so don't expect any great signings - just the usual crop of
 has beens. Interesting to see what happens though. Wouldn't mind losing
 all the time if we were on the right track, but we're simply awful and I'm
 nearing the point where disappointment gives way to becoming ashamed!
 The good people of Leeds still paying to watch this? I raise my glass to you
 all.
 
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Richard Walker
Much better already. 

 On 1 Jan 2014, at 16:10, Brendan Osborne bosborn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Get in Matt Smith 1-2 now!
 
 MOT
 
 From: dsm...@dsmail.plus.com
 To: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 16:07:49 +
 CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn link here
 
 It's been coming for months. We are clueless and panic in possession which
 normally leads to a hoof as the pressure and burden of possession gets too
 much.
 We have no money so don't expect any great signings - just the usual crop of
 has beens. Interesting to see what happens though. Wouldn't mind losing
 all the time if we were on the right track, but we're simply awful and I'm
 nearing the point where disappointment gives way to becoming ashamed!
 The good people of Leeds still paying to watch this? I raise my glass to you
 all.
 
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread john
Especially at the price being charged... Madness total madness!
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Re: [LU] Blackburn link here

2014-01-01 Thread Jim Moran
Shittest ref I've seen in ages for both sides. 

--

 On 1 Jan 2014, at 16:11, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Much better already. 
 
 On 1 Jan 2014, at 16:10, Brendan Osborne bosborn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Get in Matt Smith 1-2 now!
 
 MOT
 
 From: dsm...@dsmail.plus.com
 To: ws.callag...@live.co.uk
 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 16:07:49 +
 CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn link here
 
 It's been coming for months. We are clueless and panic in possession which
 normally leads to a hoof as the pressure and burden of possession gets too
 much.
 We have no money so don't expect any great signings - just the usual crop of
 has beens. Interesting to see what happens though. Wouldn't mind losing
 all the time if we were on the right track, but we're simply awful and I'm
 nearing the point where disappointment gives way to becoming ashamed!
 The good people of Leeds still paying to watch this? I raise my glass to you
 all.
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2014-01-01 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Let's hope so.
I hope this month won't end in tears


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On 1 January 2014 22:21, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

 Well not the start to the New Year that we wanted , especially when you
 look at the League games we have coming up - Sheff Wed, Leicester and
 Brighton.
 This was a game I thought we could win and yet at half time I was thinking
 that 2 nil flattered us and that only 2 poor finishes / clearances off the
 line stopped it being 0 4. At the other end I could not recall a shot or
 chance worthy of the name. Not good New Years Day fare for another plus 30k
 crowd.
 At least Brian was as dissappointed as us and made changes - bringing on
 Aribiyi at half time and then Poleon with 20mins to go in an effort to
 change things. Everything about this game showed up our failings - a keeper
 who can hardly move and cannot even take his own goal kicks, a midfield
 that cannot keep or pass the ball and 2 strikers who, although both decent
 in their own right, have no understanding or communication between them. I
 can remember as a lad when Granada Reports (our equivalent to Yorkshire
 Calendar) actually had a test with Keegan and Toshack to see if they were
 actually telepathic rather than just good at reading each others game - not
 much chance of anyone thinking Ross and Smith have any telepathy - quite
 the opposite, if Smith flicked it on Ross was waiting for the knock down,
 when Smith knocked it down Ross had gone ahead looking for the flick on.
 Despite Marius showing why he had got a new contract and both Lees and
 Pearce doing Ok we were ripped apart for their goals, Rhodes being left in
 miles of space for their first and their second a straight forward header
 from a set piece. Only a combination of Kenny and Lees and then a great
 tackle from Murphy stopped it being 4 nil.
 As is the norm now, a home team, losing at half time (and at the end) was
 booed off. When did that become accepted behaviour ? The few Prem and other
 Champ games that I have seen over the last few seasons have shown that
 almost irrespective of performance etc, a home team who are not winning are
 met by a chorus of boos. I get that booing is the only way for fans to show
 their displeasure etc but surely not every team who are not winning at home
 do not deserve barracking ? Whatever , todays performance probably did
 deserve the reception they got.
 Second half we did a bit better and got back into the game,a mix up in
 their defence allowed Byram to rob the ball and put it on a plate for Smith
 to tap it into an empty net. Not long after Mowatt hit the woodwork - a
 chance that could have got us back on level terms but it was not to be
 (they also hit the bar later on) and we were on the end of some poor
 refereeing decisions but really we did not deserve anything from this game
 - Aribiyi looked light weight and could easily become the new De Costa /
 Joel Griffiths / Sebastian Sorsa / Ryan Hall ??
 So all in all a very bad day at the office and with hard games to come we
 could find ourselves out of  play off contention by the end of the month

 The only good thing was the crowd of over 30k which shows that the Bates
 era is dead and buried and that fans do buy into the GFH and McDermott
 vision for the future, though for how long is anyone's guess

 Roll on Rochdale on Saturday and here's hoping we have a good cup run,
 other than that lets hope Brian can somehow work miracles over the transfer
 window and bring in some genuine talent

 All the best for the New Year

 Dave
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2014-01-01 Thread Brendan
Thanks for the reports Dave, I look forward to reading even those from defeats 
like today's.

From my armchair, I remain entirely behind BMcD and even if we just survive 
relegation again I'd still back him - the squad upon his arrival is and 
remains as weak as piss.

During the summer all of us wanted to see the back of Brown, Pugh, Pearce, 
Norris, Varney, Tonge... yet ALL of them are still there as they had at least a 
season left on their contracts. Thanks Colin.

Admittedly Pearce has redeemed himself, but the rest we literally can't even 
give them away.

Then we have Drury, Peltier, EHD, White and Poleon: Old/Injured, unreliable, 
given up, and not good enough x 2.

That's half a squad there that we're stuck with until the end of the season and 
it wouldn't matter if we had Mourinho managing that lot (not to mention half 
the others).

BMcD IN.

BMW

--- Original Message ---

From: nat...@sky.com
Sent: 1 January 2014 21:21
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Blackburn

Well not the start to the New Year that we wanted , especially when you look at 
the League games we have coming up - Sheff Wed, Leicester and Brighton.
This was a game I thought we could win and yet at half time I was thinking that 
2 nil flattered us and that only 2 poor finishes / clearances off the line 
stopped it being 0 4. At the other end I could not recall a shot or chance 
worthy of the name. Not good New Years Day fare for another plus 30k crowd.
At least Brian was as dissappointed as us and made changes - bringing on 
Aribiyi at half time and then Poleon with 20mins to go in an effort to change 
things. Everything about this game showed up our failings - a keeper who can 
hardly move and cannot even take his own goal kicks, a midfield that cannot 
keep or pass the ball and 2 strikers who, although both decent in their own 
right, have no understanding or communication between them. I can remember as a 
lad when Granada Reports (our equivalent to Yorkshire Calendar) actually had a 
test with Keegan and Toshack to see if they were actually telepathic rather 
than just good at reading each others game - not much chance of anyone thinking 
Ross and Smith have any telepathy - quite the opposite, if Smith flicked it on 
Ross was waiting for the knock down, when Smith knocked it down Ross had gone 
ahead looking for the flick on.
Despite Marius showing why he had got a new contract and both Lees and Pearce 
doing Ok we were ripped apart for their goals, Rhodes being left in miles of 
space for their first and their second a straight forward header from a set 
piece. Only a combination of Kenny and Lees and then a great tackle from Murphy 
stopped it being 4 nil.
As is the norm now, a home team, losing at half time (and at the end) was booed 
off. When did that become accepted behaviour ? The few Prem and other Champ 
games that I have seen over the last few seasons have shown that almost 
irrespective of performance etc, a home team who are not winning are met by a 
chorus of boos. I get that booing is the only way for fans to show their 
displeasure etc but surely not every team who are not winning at home do not 
deserve barracking ? Whatever , todays performance probably did deserve the 
reception they got.
Second half we did a bit better and got back into the game,a mix up in their 
defence allowed Byram to rob the ball and put it on a plate for Smith to tap it 
into an empty net. Not long after Mowatt hit the woodwork - a chance that could 
have got us back on level terms but it was not to be (they also hit the bar 
later on) and we were on the end of some poor refereeing decisions but really 
we did not deserve anything from this game - Aribiyi looked light weight and 
could easily become the new De Costa / Joel Griffiths / Sebastian Sorsa / Ryan 
Hall ??
So all in all a very bad day at the office and with hard games to come we could 
find ourselves out of  play off contention by the end of the month

The only good thing was the crowd of over 30k which shows that the Bates era is 
dead and buried and that fans do buy into the GFH and McDermott vision for the 
future, though for how long is anyone's guess

Roll on Rochdale on Saturday and here's hoping we have a good cup run, other 
than that lets hope Brian can somehow work miracles over the transfer window 
and bring in some genuine talent

All the best for the New Year

Dave
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2013-12-02 Thread Brendan
bodega = spanish for the winerys themselves.

 

Pugh, my heart sinks when he plays... 
 

 From: d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 11:02:50 +
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 7000 leeds fans went, surely one of them has to belong to this list?
 
 I listened on the radio. Not much to tell other than we weren't that great, 
 although Popey and Ritchie (Ritchie is a much more engaging summerupper than 
 Eddie Gray btw) did say that McDermott was out thought by the Blackburn 
 management, oh and that Pugh missed an absolute sitter. Seems every time I 
 listen to a game on the radio we miss a sitter.
 
 Re: the wine thread, what's bodega btw? Sounds like a character out of Harry 
 Potter, or a Ghanaian centre back.
 
 DRB
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2013-12-02 Thread tim . whelan
Well, here's my report...

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/leedsunited/news/33446

Tim W.





 From: David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk
To: 'leedslist@gn.apc.org' leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Monday, 2 December 2013, 11:02
Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 

7000 leeds fans went, surely one of them has to belong to this list?

I listened on the radio.  Not much to tell other than we weren't that great, 
although Popey and Ritchie (Ritchie is a much more engaging summerupper than 
Eddie Gray btw) did say that McDermott was out thought by the Blackburn 
management, oh and that Pugh missed an absolute sitter.  Seems every time I 
listen to a game on the radio we miss a sitter.

Re: the wine thread, what's bodega btw?  Sounds like a character out of Harry 
Potter, or a Ghanaian centre back.

DRB
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2013-12-01 Thread nat...@sky.com


Your'e a better man than me Rich - was watching 86/87 'a season to savour' 
video a couple of years ago with my elder son and our home game v Hull* came on 
screen, I said I remembered being there just as the date came up. He said 'hang 
on that was my first birthday didn't I get a party. His Mum pointed out that 
the party was on the Sunday so I could go to the game !
To be fair I had bought my first season ticket that season - had one every year 
since then 

Dave
* won 3 0 with goals from Baird, Ormsby, Ritchie (pen)


 From: Richard walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2013, 19:24
Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 

Didn't go to the match, probably would have done if it wasn't my daughters 
birthday today.
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2013-12-01 Thread Richard walker
I've sacrificed a lot of things for football over the years Dave, but I 
wouldn't sacrifice much for the current shower of shite.

Sent from my iPad

 On 1 Dec 2013, at 13:14, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Your'e a better man than me Rich - was watching 86/87 'a season to savour' 
 video a couple of years ago with my elder son and our home game v Hull* came 
 on screen, I said I remembered being there just as the date came up. He said 
 'hang on that was my first birthday didn't I get a party. His Mum pointed 
 out that the party was on the Sunday so I could go to the game !
 To be fair I had bought my first season ticket that season - had one every 
 year since then 
 
 Dave
 * won 3 0 with goals from Baird, Ormsby, Ritchie (pen)
 
 
 From: Richard walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2013, 19:24
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 
 Didn't go to the match, probably would have done if it wasn't my daughters 
 birthday today.
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Re: [LU] blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Andy Pyzer


has anyone found a link to highlights or the goals yet folks?

Andy
  
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Re: [LU] blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Nigel Goodman
This one workshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P-n85S_7zg
   MOT Nigel


On 02/09/2012, at 3:47 PM, Andy Pyzer wrote:

 
 
 has anyone found a link to highlights or the goals yet folks?
 
 Andy
 
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Re: [LU] blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Andy Pyzer

nope no good for me mate but thanks for trying, I'm sure an intl version will 
come up soon enough, cheers



This one workshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P-n85S_7zg   MOT Nigel

  
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Re: [LU] blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Robert Heath
Thanks for sending that.

What a goal by McCormack! Obvious foul by Becchio, but a brilliant finish.
It was funny how Becchio picked the ball out of the net after the first
goal and it looks like Diouf is trying to fight him for it for a second.
Good finish as well from Becchio for #3. Their third was bloody lucky.

On 2 September 2012 11:10, Nigel Goodman fra...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

 This one workshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P-n85S_7zg
MOT Nigel


 On 02/09/2012, at 3:47 PM, Andy Pyzer wrote:

 
 
  has anyone found a link to highlights or the goals yet folks?
 
  Andy
 
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Re: [LU] blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
I love Colin.
Talks straight, talks sense, talks Yorkshire.
Proud to have him. I think he's going to be a legend.
If only that Bastard Bates the MS would fall off his perch.
On Sep 2, 2012 11:10 AM, Nigel Goodman fra...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

 This one workshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P-n85S_7zg
MOT Nigel


 On 02/09/2012, at 3:47 PM, Andy Pyzer wrote:



 has anyone found a link to highlights or the goals yet folks?

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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Simon Austin
On 01/09/2012 22:12, Richard Walker wrote:
 I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. Austin 
 deffo will be the first to get a suspension.


I have to defend my namesake, and point out that he hasn't actually got
a card yet... Varney has 3.

- Si


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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Richard Walker
That is pretty amazing, he must have been pulled up 3 or 4 times by the ref 
yesterday. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Sep 2012, at 11:42, Simon Austin simon...@auzsoft.net wrote:

 On 01/09/2012 22:12, Richard Walker wrote:
 I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. Austin 
 deffo will be the first to get a suspension.
 
 
 I have to defend my namesake, and point out that he hasn't actually got
 a card yet... Varney has 3.
 
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Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread seanscribe
I disagree. Compared with other clubs' official commentators, the Leeds guys 
are very objective. Here in the States I often get the official Arsenal, Man 
U and Chelsea commentaries on satellite radio, and they are so one-sided that 
it's hard to know how the game is really going. The one thing you can say about 
the Leeds guys is that if Leeds are playing poorly, they won't hesitate to say 
so. Equally, if there's a controversial incident, I trust that I'm getting a 
fair assessment of it from Eddie Gray.


Cheers!


Sean



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From: Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa
To: Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com
Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 12:37 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn


I also listened to the game on the radio.

Sorry if I am repeating myself from last year, but how atrocious are those
commentators on Yorks Radio? Their only virtue is that you know about a
goal quicker than any other medium. I really blame those smug
self-satisfied Radio 5 bastards who think the commentary is all about
themselves. The main bloke is bad enough, but Eddie Gray, as much as you
have to love the guy, is hopeless. He watches replays on his monitors and
says things like That was really bad defending...look at that.

On 1 September 2012 23:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in
 midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on
 the ball.  It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park
 in Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win
 from what I heard. Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not
 allowed to play.. Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed...
 guess we need a fast boy up front.  Will we survive until January? Thanks
 for report, Andy
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
  From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
  Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
  This
  was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
  forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
  ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
  and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
  down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
  (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
  exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
  it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
  that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
  still be there.
  When
  that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
  going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
  to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
  premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
  them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
  doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
  I
  think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
  inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
  the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which  were exposed
  every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
  was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
  the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
  who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
  unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
  cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
  shirt. Amazing quality,
  In
  fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
  now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
  air.
  So
  how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
  just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
  started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
  They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets who was awful. When at
  Leeds I thought he was the equal of Nigel Martyn when it came to shop
  stopping but he was always week coming for crosses and commanding his
  area. Nothing has changed , he flapped time and time again and the
  Blackburn defence began to creak. On one such occasion , we got lucky
  and the ball fell to Diouf who poked it in. We then began to believe.
  From
  that moment on we steamrolled them, not through beautiful play but
  from high energy

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Robert Heath
Maybe you're younger than me (in fact you are almost certainly younger than
me!), but I still yearn for proper commentary along the lines
ofBremner has the ball halfway inside his own half, plays it
out to Lorimer on the right, Reaney overlaps and Lorimer chips it into the
corner. He's overhit it I think, no, Reaney shows great speed and he's
caught it just inside the byeline. he cuts inside, and slides it back to
Giles, edge of the box, he chips it, and it hits the bar, bounces out,
Jones is there, he scores with a header from six yards into the top corner.

On 2 September 2012 17:09, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:

 I disagree. Compared with other clubs' official commentators, the Leeds
 guys are very objective. Here in the States I often get the official
 Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea commentaries on satellite radio, and they are so
 one-sided that it's hard to know how the game is really going. The one
 thing you can say about the Leeds guys is that if Leeds are playing poorly,
 they won't hesitate to say so. Equally, if there's a controversial
 incident, I trust that I'm getting a fair assessment of it from Eddie Gray.

  Cheers!

  Sean


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa
 To: Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com
 Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 12:37 am
 Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn

  I also listened to the game on the radio.

 Sorry if I am repeating myself from last year, but how atrocious are those
 commentators on Yorks Radio? Their only virtue is that you know about a
 goal quicker than any other medium. I really blame those smug
 self-satisfied Radio 5 bastards who think the commentary is all about
 themselves. The main bloke is bad enough, but Eddie Gray, as much as you
 have to love the guy, is hopeless. He watches replays on his monitors and
 says things like That was really bad defending...look at that.

 On 1 September 2012 23:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
  Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to
  me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the
  radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in
  midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few
  headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and
  the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on
  the ball.  It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park
  in Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this
  league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win
  from what I heard. Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not
  allowed to play.. Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed...
  guess we need a fast boy up front.  Will we survive until January? Thanks
  for report, Andy
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
   From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
   To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
   Subject: [LU] Blackburn
  
   This
   was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
   forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
   ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
   and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
   down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
   (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
   exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
   it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
   that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
   still be there.
   When
   that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
   going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
   to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
   premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
   them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
   doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
   I
   think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
   inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
   the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which  were exposed
   every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
   was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
   the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
   who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
   unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
   cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
   shirt. Amazing quality,
   In
   fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
   now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
   air.
   So
   how did we get back

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread seanscribe
No disagreement there. I grew up on Radio Two European Soccer Special on 
Wednesday evenings, with Alan Parry et al doing just the sort of excellent work 
you've re-imagined below.


Cheers!


Sean



-Original Message-
From: Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa
To: seanscribe seanscr...@aol.com
Cc: andypyzer andypy...@hotmail.com; leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 10:19 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn


Maybe you're younger than me (in fact you are almost certainly younger than 
me!), but I still yearn for proper commentary along the lines 
ofBremner has the ball halfway inside his own half, plays it out to 
Lorimer on the right, Reaney overlaps and Lorimer chips it into the corner. 
He's overhit it I think, no, Reaney shows great speed and he's caught it just 
inside the byeline. he cuts inside, and slides it back to Giles, edge of the 
box, he chips it, and it hits the bar, bounces out, Jones is there, he scores 
with a header from six yards into the top corner.


On 2 September 2012 17:09,  seanscr...@aol.com wrote:

I disagree. Compared with other clubs' official commentators, the Leeds guys 
are very objective. Here in the States I often get the official Arsenal, Man 
U and Chelsea commentaries on satellite radio, and they are so one-sided that 
it's hard to know how the game is really going. The one thing you can say about 
the Leeds guys is that if Leeds are playing poorly, they won't hesitate to say 
so. Equally, if there's a controversial incident, I trust that I'm getting a 
fair assessment of it from Eddie Gray.


Cheers!


Sean



-Original Message-
From: Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa
To: Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com
Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 12:37 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn


I also listened to the game on the radio.

Sorry if I am repeating myself from last year, but how atrocious are those
commentators on Yorks Radio? Their only virtue is that you know about a
goal quicker than any other medium. I really blame those smug
self-satisfied Radio 5 bastards who think the commentary is all about
themselves. The main bloke is bad enough, but Eddie Gray, as much as you
have to love the guy, is hopeless. He watches replays on his monitors and
says things like That was really bad defending...look at that.

On 1 September 2012 23:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in
 midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on
 the ball.  It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park
 in Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win
 from what I heard. Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not
 allowed to play.. Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed...
 guess we need a fast boy up front.  Will we survive until January? Thanks
 for report, Andy
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
  From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
  Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
  This
  was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
  forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
  ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
  and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
  down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
  (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
  exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
  it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
  that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
  still be there.
  When
  that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
  going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
  to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
  premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
  them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
  doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
  I
  think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
  inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
  the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which  were exposed
  every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
  was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
  the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
  who won hardly anything in the air and when given

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Nicholas Armit
I actually like the main guy. Think he is a good commentator. 



 From: seanscr...@aol.com seanscr...@aol.com
To: rhe...@asd.edu.qa; andypy...@hotmail.com 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn
 
I disagree. Compared with other clubs' official commentators, the Leeds guys 
are very objective. Here in the States I often get the official Arsenal, Man 
U and Chelsea commentaries on satellite radio, and they are so one-sided that 
it's hard to know how the game is really going. The one thing you can say about 
the Leeds guys is that if Leeds are playing poorly, they won't hesitate to say 
so. Equally, if there's a controversial incident, I trust that I'm getting a 
fair assessment of it from Eddie Gray.


Cheers!


Sean



-Original Message-
From: Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa
To: Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com
Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 12:37 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn


I also listened to the game on the radio.

Sorry if I am repeating myself from last year, but how atrocious are those
commentators on Yorks Radio? Their only virtue is that you know about a
goal quicker than any other medium. I really blame those smug
self-satisfied Radio 5 bastards who think the commentary is all about
themselves. The main bloke is bad enough, but Eddie Gray, as much as you
have to love the guy, is hopeless. He watches replays on his monitors and
says things like That was really bad defending...look at that.

On 1 September 2012 23:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in
 midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on
 the ball.  It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park
 in Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win
 from what I heard. Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not
 allowed to play.. Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed...
 guess we need a fast boy up front.  Will we survive until January? Thanks
 for report, Andy
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
  From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
  Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
  This
  was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
  forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
  ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
  and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
  down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
  (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
  exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
  it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
  that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
  still be there.
  When
  that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
  going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
  to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
  premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
  them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
  doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
  I
  think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
  inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
  the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which  were exposed
  every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
  was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
  the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
  who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
  unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
  cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
  shirt. Amazing quality,
  In
  fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
  now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
  air.
  So
  how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
  just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
  started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
  They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets who was awful. When at
  Leeds I thought he was the equal of Nigel Martyn when it came to shop
  stopping but he was always week coming for crosses and commanding his
  area. Nothing has changed

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-02 Thread Richard Walker
Thom Kirwin, yes I think he's ok. I like to listen to Eddie but I'm afraid he's 
just a bag of contradictions and he says some ridiculous stuff at times. I 
think it's clear to see why he didn't make the big time as a manager.

Ian Dennis and Bryn Law have both gone on to great things from local radio.

Sent from my iPad

On 2 Sep 2012, at 18:32, Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I actually like the main guy. Think he is a good commentator. 
 
 
 
 From: seanscr...@aol.com seanscr...@aol.com
 To: rhe...@asd.edu.qa; andypy...@hotmail.com 
 Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn
 
 I disagree. Compared with other clubs' official commentators, the Leeds 
 guys are very objective. Here in the States I often get the official 
 Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea commentaries on satellite radio, and they are so 
 one-sided that it's hard to know how the game is really going. The one thing 
 you can say about the Leeds guys is that if Leeds are playing poorly, they 
 won't hesitate to say so. Equally, if there's a controversial incident, I 
 trust that I'm getting a fair assessment of it from Eddie Gray.
 
 
 Cheers!
 
 
 Sean
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa
 To: Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com
 Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 12:37 am
 Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn
 
 
 I also listened to the game on the radio.
 
 Sorry if I am repeating myself from last year, but how atrocious are those
 commentators on Yorks Radio? Their only virtue is that you know about a
 goal quicker than any other medium. I really blame those smug
 self-satisfied Radio 5 bastards who think the commentary is all about
 themselves. The main bloke is bad enough, but Eddie Gray, as much as you
 have to love the guy, is hopeless. He watches replays on his monitors and
 says things like That was really bad defending...look at that.
 
 On 1 September 2012 23:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in
 midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on
 the ball.  It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park
 in Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win
 from what I heard. Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not
 allowed to play.. Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed...
 guess we need a fast boy up front.  Will we survive until January? Thanks
 for report, Andy
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
 From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 This
 was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
 forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
 ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
 and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
 down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
 (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
 exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
 it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
 that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
 still be there.
 When
 that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
 going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
 to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
 premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
 them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
 doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
 I
 think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
 inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
 the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which  were exposed
 every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
 was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
 the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
 who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
 unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
 cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
 shirt. Amazing quality,
 In
 fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
 now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
 air.
 So
 how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread Andy Pyzer

Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to me 
having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the radio that 
we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in midfield but i 
worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few headers at corners this 
year though. Diouf has been class throughout and the game I watched you can see 
he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on the ball.  It is a worry that the 
2 football teams played us off the park in Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a 
few more teams like that in this league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and 
could easily have been a win from what I heard. Watched the Blackpool Leicester 
game.. pool were not allowed to play.. Beckford was greedy when he came on but 
has the speed... guess we need a fast boy up front.  Will we survive until 
January? Thanks for report, Andy  
  Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
 From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 This
 was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
 forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
 ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
 and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
 down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
 (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
 exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
 it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
 that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
 still be there.  
 When
 that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
 going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
 to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
 premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
 them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
 doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
 I
 think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
 inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
 the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which  were exposed
 every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
 was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
 the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
 who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
 unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
 cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
 shirt. Amazing quality,
 In
 fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
 now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
 air.
 So
 how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
 just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
 started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
 They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets who was awful. When at
 Leeds I thought he was the equal of Nigel Martyn when it came to shop
 stopping but he was always week coming for crosses and commanding his
 area. Nothing has changed , he flapped time and time again and the
 Blackburn defence began to creak. On one such occasion , we got lucky
 and the ball fell to Diouf who poked it in. We then began to believe.  
 From
 that moment on we steamrolled them, not through beautiful play but
 from high energy,pressure football. The whole foundation of their
 team collapsed and we saw more of the ball and began to run the game.
 Colin instructed Diouf to go get the ball so he was given a free
 reign, which actually at times saw him playing up front centrally
 pushing the ineffective Becchio and McCormack out to the right and
 left. He's a better striker than both of them. 
 We
 came out second half full of energy and carried on where we left off.
 Diouf was at the centre of everything, controlling, passing, holding
 up play, playing through balls, crossing. A master class to the
 players around him who just aren't capable of those levels of
 composure and skill.
 We
 were dominating and Blackburn were on the ropes. Norris and Austin
 upped the pace and were everywhere. Then came the equaliser, a high
 ball was played through, Becchio sort of went for it in the
 half-arsed way he does at times , you know the one, he's not really
 looking to win the header but looking for a foul, the ball missed
 them both and went through to an unmarked Macca. He took it on and
 smashed it in the net, a really well taken goal.  
 There
 really was only winner from here and we had many chances to bury
 them. Diouf took complete control and was teasing them with his
 deceptive skill. Pearce was unlucky to have his goal chalked off for
 what looked like a 50:50 scrap for the ball and then 

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread Richard Walker
It was brilliant mate - not much good football but we steamrolled them. I think 
if we keep that up we certainly won't be losing 10 games at home this time 
around.

I am worried about the squad depth - I mean Macca and Becchio are certs at the 
mo - who is challenging them ? 

I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. Austin 
deffo will be the first to get a suspension.

Sent from my iPad

On 1 Sep 2012, at 21:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to me 
 having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the radio 
 that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in midfield 
 but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few headers at 
 corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and the game I 
 watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on the ball. 
  
 It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park in Blackpool 
 and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this league. Still ... 
 no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win from what I heard.
  
 Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not allowed to play.. 
 Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed... guess we need a fast 
 boy up front. 
  
 Will we survive until January?
  
 Thanks for report, Andy
  
  
 
  
  Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
  From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
  Subject: [LU] Blackburn
  
  This
  was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
  forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
  ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
  and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
  down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
  (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
  exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
  it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
  that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
  still be there. 
  When
  that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
  going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
  to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
  premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
  them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
  doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
  I
  think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
  inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
  the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which were exposed
  every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
  was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
  the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
  who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
  unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
  cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
  shirt. Amazing quality,
  In
  fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
  now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
  air.
  So
  how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
  just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
  started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
  They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets who was awful. When at
  Leeds I thought he was the equal of Nigel Martyn when it came to shop
  stopping but he was always week coming for crosses and commanding his
  area. Nothing has changed , he flapped time and time again and the
  Blackburn defence began to creak. On one such occasion , we got lucky
  and the ball fell to Diouf who poked it in. We then began to believe. 
  From
  that moment on we steamrolled them, not through beautiful play but
  from high energy,pressure football. The whole foundation of their
  team collapsed and we saw more of the ball and began to run the game.
  Colin instructed Diouf to go get the ball so he was given a free
  reign, which actually at times saw him playing up front centrally
  pushing the ineffective Becchio and McCormack out to the right and
  left. He's a better striker than both of them. 
  We
  came out second half full of energy and carried on where we left off.
  Diouf was at the centre of everything, controlling, passing, holding
  up play, playing through balls, crossing. A master class to the
  players around him who just aren't capable of those levels of
  composure and skill.
  We
  were dominating and Blackburn were on the ropes. Norris and Austin
  upped the pace and were everywhere. Then came the equaliser, a high
  ball 

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread Andy Clayton
Do we have a captain Rich?

Sent from my iPhone.

On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:12, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 It was brilliant mate - not much good football but we steamrolled them. I 
 think if we keep that up we certainly won't be losing 10 games at home this 
 time around.
 
 I am worried about the squad depth - I mean Macca and Becchio are certs at 
 the mo - who is challenging them ? 
 
 I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. Austin 
 deffo will be the first to get a suspension.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 21:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to me 
 having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the radio 
 that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in 
 midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few 
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and the 
 game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on the 
 ball. 
 
 It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park in Blackpool 
 and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this league. Still ... 
 no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win from what I heard.
 
 Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not allowed to play.. 
 Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed... guess we need a 
 fast boy up front. 
 
 Will we survive until January?
 
 Thanks for report, Andy
 
 
 
 
 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
 From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 This
 was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
 forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
 ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
 and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
 down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
 (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
 exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
 it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
 that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
 still be there. 
 When
 that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
 going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
 to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
 premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
 them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
 doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
 I
 think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
 inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
 the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which were exposed
 every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
 was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
 the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
 who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
 unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
 cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
 shirt. Amazing quality,
 In
 fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
 now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
 air.
 So
 how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
 just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
 started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
 They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets who was awful. When at
 Leeds I thought he was the equal of Nigel Martyn when it came to shop
 stopping but he was always week coming for crosses and commanding his
 area. Nothing has changed , he flapped time and time again and the
 Blackburn defence began to creak. On one such occasion , we got lucky
 and the ball fell to Diouf who poked it in. We then began to believe. 
 From
 that moment on we steamrolled them, not through beautiful play but
 from high energy,pressure football. The whole foundation of their
 team collapsed and we saw more of the ball and began to run the game.
 Colin instructed Diouf to go get the ball so he was given a free
 reign, which actually at times saw him playing up front centrally
 pushing the ineffective Becchio and McCormack out to the right and
 left. He's a better striker than both of them. 
 We
 came out second half full of energy and carried on where we left off.
 Diouf was at the centre of everything, controlling, passing, holding
 up play, playing through balls, crossing. A master class to the
 players around him who just aren't capable of those levels of
 composure and skill.
 We
 were dominating and Blackburn were on the ropes. Norris and Austin
 upped 

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread Richard Walker
Mmmm ... Difficult one. I was looking at Peltier when the second went in, his 
head was down and he looked defeated . I suppose given he was at fault for both 
he probably wasn't feeling too good. Tom Lees was jeeing people on. I think 
you're looking at Pearce, Norris, Lees ( too young? ) or how about Diouf'. I 
know that might sound ridiculous but he does an awful lot of directing , 
pointing etc. ?? And has a great awareness of the pitch. He did get involved 
with the Blackburn fans at one point who soon turned on him.
Paddy Kenny is another option but then there's an argument about keepers being 
captain ?

Maybe Peltier will come good, he looked very shaky though and looks like a 
quiet sort of bloke.

Sent from my iPad

On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:22, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do we have a captain Rich?
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:12, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 It was brilliant mate - not much good football but we steamrolled them. I 
 think if we keep that up we certainly won't be losing 10 games at home this 
 time around.
 
 I am worried about the squad depth - I mean Macca and Becchio are certs at 
 the mo - who is challenging them ? 
 
 I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. Austin 
 deffo will be the first to get a suspension.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 21:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to 
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the 
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in 
 midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few 
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and 
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on 
 the ball. 
 
 It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park in Blackpool 
 and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this league. Still 
 ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win from what I 
 heard.
 
 Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not allowed to play.. 
 Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed... guess we need a 
 fast boy up front. 
 
 Will we survive until January?
 
 Thanks for report, Andy
 
 
 
 
 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
 From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 This
 was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
 forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
 ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
 and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
 down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
 (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
 exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
 it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
 that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
 still be there. 
 When
 that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
 going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
 to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
 premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
 them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
 doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
 I
 think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
 inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
 the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which were exposed
 every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
 was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
 the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
 who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
 unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
 cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
 shirt. Amazing quality,
 In
 fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
 now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
 air.
 So
 how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
 just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
 started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
 They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets who was awful. When at
 Leeds I thought he was the equal of Nigel Martyn when it came to shop
 stopping but he was always week coming for crosses and commanding his
 area. Nothing has changed , he flapped time and time again and the
 Blackburn defence began to creak. On one such occasion , we got lucky
 and the ball fell to Diouf who poked it in. We then began to believe. 
 From
 that moment on we 

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread Richard Walker
I've decided to upgrade Drury's score to 8. I thought he was really solid today

Sent from my iPad

On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:31, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Mmmm ... Difficult one. I was looking at Peltier when the second went in, his 
 head was down and he looked defeated . I suppose given he was at fault for 
 both he probably wasn't feeling too good. Tom Lees was jeeing people on. I 
 think you're looking at Pearce, Norris, Lees ( too young? ) or how about 
 Diouf'. I know that might sound ridiculous but he does an awful lot of 
 directing , pointing etc. ?? And has a great awareness of the pitch. He did 
 get involved with the Blackburn fans at one point who soon turned on him.
 Paddy Kenny is another option but then there's an argument about keepers 
 being captain ?
 
 Maybe Peltier will come good, he looked very shaky though and looks like a 
 quiet sort of bloke.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:22, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do we have a captain Rich?
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:12, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 It was brilliant mate - not much good football but we steamrolled them. I 
 think if we keep that up we certainly won't be losing 10 games at home this 
 time around.
 
 I am worried about the squad depth - I mean Macca and Becchio are certs at 
 the mo - who is challenging them ? 
 
 I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. 
 Austin deffo will be the first to get a suspension.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 21:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to 
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the 
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in 
 midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few 
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and 
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think 
 on the ball. 
 
 It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park in 
 Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this 
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win 
 from what I heard.
 
 Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not allowed to play.. 
 Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed... guess we need a 
 fast boy up front. 
 
 Will we survive until January?
 
 Thanks for report, Andy
 
 
 
 
 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
 From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 This
 was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
 forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
 ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
 and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
 down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
 (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
 exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
 it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
 that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
 still be there. 
 When
 that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
 going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
 to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
 premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
 them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
 doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
 I
 think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
 inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
 the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which were exposed
 every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
 was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
 the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
 who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
 unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
 cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
 shirt. Amazing quality,
 In
 fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
 now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
 air.
 So
 how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
 just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
 started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
 They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets who was awful. When at
 Leeds I thought he was the equal of Nigel Martyn when it came to shop
 stopping but he was always week coming for crosses and commanding his
 area. Nothing has changed , he flapped time 

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread Richard Walker
Would you nail Annabel Croft ?

Just watching the tennis ? 

I get the baby sitting job whilst wife is out in Leeds getting pissed and 
there's no fucker on the list 

I'll try Lee Peltier on Twitter again  Funny

Sent from my iPad

On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:45, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I've decided to upgrade Drury's score to 8. I thought he was really solid 
 today
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:31, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Mmmm ... Difficult one. I was looking at Peltier when the second went in, 
 his head was down and he looked defeated . I suppose given he was at fault 
 for both he probably wasn't feeling too good. Tom Lees was jeeing people on. 
 I think you're looking at Pearce, Norris, Lees ( too young? ) or how about 
 Diouf'. I know that might sound ridiculous but he does an awful lot of 
 directing , pointing etc. ?? And has a great awareness of the pitch. He did 
 get involved with the Blackburn fans at one point who soon turned on him.
 Paddy Kenny is another option but then there's an argument about keepers 
 being captain ?
 
 Maybe Peltier will come good, he looked very shaky though and looks like a 
 quiet sort of bloke.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:22, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do we have a captain Rich?
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:12, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 It was brilliant mate - not much good football but we steamrolled them. I 
 think if we keep that up we certainly won't be losing 10 games at home 
 this time around.
 
 I am worried about the squad depth - I mean Macca and Becchio are certs at 
 the mo - who is challenging them ? 
 
 I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. 
 Austin deffo will be the first to get a suspension.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 21:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to 
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the 
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge 
 in midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few 
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and 
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think 
 on the ball. 
 
 It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park in 
 Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this 
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win 
 from what I heard.
 
 Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not allowed to play.. 
 Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed... guess we need a 
 fast boy up front. 
 
 Will we survive until January?
 
 Thanks for report, Andy
 
 
 
 
 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
 From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 This
 was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
 forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
 ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
 and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
 down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
 (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
 exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
 it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
 that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
 still be there. 
 When
 that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
 going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
 to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
 premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
 them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
 doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
 I
 think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
 inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
 the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which were exposed
 every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
 was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
 the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
 who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
 unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
 cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
 shirt. Amazing quality,
 In
 fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
 now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
 air.
 So
 how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
 just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
 

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread wayne callaghan
Annabel Croft...  Isn't she a bit of an old dear now (Gilf?)

I'd give Diouf the captaincy:
Mouthy
Commanding
Clever
The only thing letting him down is the daft haircut.

-Original Message-

From: Richard Walker
Sent: 1 Sep 2012 21:49:07 GMT
To: Richard Walker
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Blackburn

Would you nail Annabel Croft ?

Just watching the tennis ?

I get the baby sitting job whilst wife is out in Leeds getting pissed and 
there's no fucker on the list

I'll try Lee Peltier on Twitter again  Funny

Sent from my iPad

On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:45, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I've decided to upgrade Drury's score to 8. I thought he was really solid 
 today

 Sent from my iPad

 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:31, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Mmmm ... Difficult one. I was looking at Peltier when the second went in, 
 his head was down and he looked defeated . I suppose given he was at fault 
 for both he probably wasn't feeling too good. Tom Lees was jeeing people on. 
 I think you're looking at Pearce, Norris, Lees ( too young? ) or how about 
 Diouf'. I know that might sound ridiculous but he does an awful lot of 
 directing , pointing etc. ?? And has a great awareness of the pitch. He did 
 get involved with the Blackburn fans at one point who soon turned on him.
 Paddy Kenny is another option but then there's an argument about keepers 
 being captain ?

 Maybe Peltier will come good, he looked very shaky though and looks like a 
 quiet sort of bloke.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:22, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do we have a captain Rich?

 Sent from my iPhone.

 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:12, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 It was brilliant mate - not much good football but we steamrolled them. I 
 think if we keep that up we certainly won't be losing 10 games at home 
 this time around.

 I am worried about the squad depth - I mean Macca and Becchio are certs at 
 the mo - who is challenging them ?

 I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. 
 Austin deffo will be the first to get a suspension.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 1 Sep 2012, at 21:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to 
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the 
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge 
 in midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few 
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and 
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think 
 on the ball.

 It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park in 
 Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this 
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win 
 from what I heard.

 Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not allowed to play.. 
 Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed... guess we need a 
 fast boy up front.

 Will we survive until January?

 Thanks for report, Andy




 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
 From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn

 This
 was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
 forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
 ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
 and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
 down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
 (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
 exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
 it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
 that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
 still be there.
 When
 that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
 going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
 to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
 premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
 them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
 doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
 I
 think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
 inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
 the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which were exposed
 every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
 was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
 the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
 who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
 unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
 cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
 shirt. Amazing quality

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread Matt Anderson
Talking to a Leicester fan today and he was amazed peltier was our captain. Not 
captain material apparently.

Sent from my iPad

On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:45, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I've decided to upgrade Drury's score to 8. I thought he was really solid 
 today
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:31, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Mmmm ... Difficult one. I was looking at Peltier when the second went in, 
 his head was down and he looked defeated . I suppose given he was at fault 
 for both he probably wasn't feeling too good. Tom Lees was jeeing people on. 
 I think you're looking at Pearce, Norris, Lees ( too young? ) or how about 
 Diouf'. I know that might sound ridiculous but he does an awful lot of 
 directing , pointing etc. ?? And has a great awareness of the pitch. He did 
 get involved with the Blackburn fans at one point who soon turned on him.
 Paddy Kenny is another option but then there's an argument about keepers 
 being captain ?
 
 Maybe Peltier will come good, he looked very shaky though and looks like a 
 quiet sort of bloke.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:22, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do we have a captain Rich?
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 22:12, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 It was brilliant mate - not much good football but we steamrolled them. I 
 think if we keep that up we certainly won't be losing 10 games at home 
 this time around.
 
 I am worried about the squad depth - I mean Macca and Becchio are certs at 
 the mo - who is challenging them ? 
 
 I think we will rack up the suspensions though playing at that level. 
 Austin deffo will be the first to get a suspension.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 1 Sep 2012, at 21:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to 
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the 
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge 
 in midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few 
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and 
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think 
 on the ball. 
 
 It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park in 
 Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this 
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win 
 from what I heard.
 
 Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not allowed to play.. 
 Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed... guess we need a 
 fast boy up front. 
 
 Will we survive until January?
 
 Thanks for report, Andy
 
 
 
 
 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
 From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
 This
 was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
 forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
 ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
 and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
 down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
 (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
 exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
 it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
 that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
 still be there. 
 When
 that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
 going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
 to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
 premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
 them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
 doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
 I
 think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
 inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
 the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which were exposed
 every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
 was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
 the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
 who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
 unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
 cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
 shirt. Amazing quality,
 In
 fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
 now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
 air.
 So
 how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
 just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
 started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
 They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets 

Re: [LU] Blackburn

2012-09-01 Thread Robert Heath
I also listened to the game on the radio.

Sorry if I am repeating myself from last year, but how atrocious are those
commentators on Yorks Radio? Their only virtue is that you know about a
goal quicker than any other medium. I really blame those smug
self-satisfied Radio 5 bastards who think the commentary is all about
themselves. The main bloke is bad enough, but Eddie Gray, as much as you
have to love the guy, is hopeless. He watches replays on his monitors and
says things like That was really bad defending...look at that.

On 1 September 2012 23:32, Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Rich, listened to game but waited for your match report - seems to
 me having only seen teh Wolves game on TV and heard all the rest on the
 radio that we still have defensive issues, Austin seems to be in charge in
 midfield but i worry about his discipline, I reckon he will get a few
 headers at corners this year though. Diouf has been class throughout and
 the game I watched you can see he has that extra 2 or 3 seconds to think on
 the ball.  It is a worry that the 2 football teams played us off the park
 in Blackpool and Blackburn.. I guess a few more teams like that in this
 league. Still ... no losses at ER so far and could easily have been a win
 from what I heard. Watched the Blackpool Leicester game.. pool were not
 allowed to play.. Beckford was greedy when he came on but has the speed...
 guess we need a fast boy up front.  Will we survive until January? Thanks
 for report, Andy
   Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:20:44 +0100
  From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
  Subject: [LU] Blackburn
 
  This
  was a brilliant game, a full blooded affair which see sawed back and
  forth. First thing to say is that Blackburn were a class apart on the
  ball especially in the first half in which they ripped us apart time
  and time again. They quickly raced into a 2-0 lead both goals coming
  down their left. I've just ruffled a few feathers on Twitter
  (Richleedsuk) by asking Peltier whether he was at fault or was he
  exposed through lack of cover. He replied saying it didn't matter ,
  it was the way they came back that was important. Can't argue with
  that but you have to wonder whether our defensive frailities may
  still be there.
  When
  that 2nd goal went in people all around me were saying that this was
  going to be an embarrassment. I couldn't disagree and was beginning
  to think about the long season ahead. It was reality kicking in, a
  premiership team against a cobbled together set of misfits most of
  them from a team that got relegated. How stupid were we ? How daft to
  doubt at a Neil Warnock team , they were never going to rollover.
  I
  think sticking Diouf on the right wing didn't work. He was drifting
  inside as it is in his nature to try and get the ball when he sees
  the front 2 struggling. This left large gaps which  were exposed
  every time they broke. This led to both their goals. Our main problem
  was a lack of movement up front and when the ball was played through
  the ball was inevitably given away, the main culprit being Becchio
  who won hardly anything in the air and when given to his feet he
  unbelievably at times just gave it away. One time on the right, he
  cut inside and with white shirts everywhere he found the only dark
  shirt. Amazing quality,
  In
  fact, Becchio's heading ability is so poor that all long balls are
  now aimed at Varney who is head and shoulders above Becchio in the
  air.
  So
  how did we get back into it ? Well, we increased our work rate and
  just got stuck in. We won a few free kicks in dangerous positions and
  started to pile on the pressure through long balls into the area.
  They began to flap, especially Robbo in nets who was awful. When at
  Leeds I thought he was the equal of Nigel Martyn when it came to shop
  stopping but he was always week coming for crosses and commanding his
  area. Nothing has changed , he flapped time and time again and the
  Blackburn defence began to creak. On one such occasion , we got lucky
  and the ball fell to Diouf who poked it in. We then began to believe.
  From
  that moment on we steamrolled them, not through beautiful play but
  from high energy,pressure football. The whole foundation of their
  team collapsed and we saw more of the ball and began to run the game.
  Colin instructed Diouf to go get the ball so he was given a free
  reign, which actually at times saw him playing up front centrally
  pushing the ineffective Becchio and McCormack out to the right and
  left. He's a better striker than both of them.
  We
  came out second half full of energy and carried on where we left off.
  Diouf was at the centre of everything, controlling, passing, holding
  up play, playing through balls, crossing. A master class to the
  players around him who just aren't capable of those levels of
  composure and skill.
  We
  were dominating and Blackburn were on the ropes. Norris