Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

[Tim Ziegler]

Well done on the research Bill.

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Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:41 AM  wrote:

> Yea Mac it depends on the preference of the person doing the pattern I
> searched all through my legacy pics to find the different examples of each
>
> One looks like a cut diamond shape all strait  and the other has the
> rounded pineapple look like the outside of one
>
> Looking through all the old legacy videos they seem to always call the
> strait sided ones done with the V bit diamond
>
> and the ones with the rope bit pineapple and sone times they say rope or
> pineapple pattern but they are different when you look close
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2024 6:07 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated.
>
> For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly
> close to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the
> difference.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Mac
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>
>
>
> A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with
> someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up
>
> And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is
> milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been
> addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding
> router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router
> bits
>
> Here is a sheet showing the difference.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

[Tim Ziegler]

my thoughts exactly Mac.

Kind Regards,

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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:07 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Bill,
>
>
>
> Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated.
>
> For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly
> close to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the
> difference.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: May 20, 2024 3:56 AM
> To: 
> Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern
>
>
>
> A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with
> someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up
>
> And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is
> milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been
> addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding
> router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router
> bits
>
> Here is a sheet showing the difference.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern

[Tim Ziegler]

Great information Bill.
I have only made the Diamond pattern.
Was very happy with the result. Would be great
to see a cabinet that has it incorporated into it for sure.

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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 2:56 AM  wrote:

> A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with
> someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up
>
> And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is
> milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been
> addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding
> router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router
> bits
>
> Here is a sheet showing the difference.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: New Magnetic base for the Legacy

[Tim Ziegler]

lol right on Sir
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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 9:46 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
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> Nice job Curt.
>
> I see the value in milling the bone flat but I do see an issue with all
> the bones not being the same.  (damn nature!" I almost feel that one at a
> time would be best.  Also parallel cuts to the base might not always be the
> best yield for the bones either.  I would fix one end of the mag base on a
> strong hinge and have the other on a screw or shim to be able to match the
> milling blade to the best path  down the bone.  You may not get enough
> angle on your rails to get the best cut. So a tilting mag base may be just
> the ticket.  Next I guess you will need to design a mini planer to make
> bone planks.  Oh dem bones!
>
> Mike OK
> On 5/19/2024 7:18 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just got done playing around with my newest toy for my Legacy.
>
> The Magnetic base was a lucky find last week. (I got it cheap!)  I used
> two pieces of 3/4" plywood, cut them so they fit into the Legacy's rail.
> put two screws on each end of the Mag. base and mounted the Mag. base onto
> the Legacy.
> Form there I used hot melt glue to glue down these bones onto my steel
> plates. (new but old 7 1/4" circler saw blades cut into blank plates.) (Bye
> the way these blades were $1.00each.) ;-)
>
> I have used Hot melt glue a lot in the past, but never on steel.
> I took a number of light cuts and everything held together nicely.
>
> If anyone has any questions, Please ask.
>
> talk to you all more latter.
> Have a good weekend everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

[Tim Ziegler]

Great work Dan

Kind Regards,

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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 5:37 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> The attached is the latest iteration of Legacy Charts all on one
> spreadsheet workbook. The latest is rotary table indexing as posted above.
> The sheet should be self explanatory.  Someday perhaps I'll gather all the
> charts into one chart that is dynamic but I'm not sure it will be an
> improvement.
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-4 Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
> wrote:
>
>> That would be great, go for it
>> On 5/16/2024 8:36 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for posting these reference materials!  Would it be agreeable
>> to you if I included this on the LegacyCharts spreadsheet I have been
>> accumulating?  It makes for a handy local reference all things Legacy.
>> DanK
>>
>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Again everyone!
>>>
>>> I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
>>> on his methods of indexing,  These methods have always worked for me in
>>> the past. and I hope some of you will learn and try his methods as well.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s Crank handle indexing.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s Carriage travel
>>> indexing.
>>>
>>> As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.
>>> Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary Table Alternative Indexing Method
>>> for Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of
>>> indexing the rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a drive
>>> shaft to control the rotary tables motion the following indexes can be
>>> obtained with the stock gear set. I have come up with what I believe to be
>>> a close to definitive answer on the number of indexes available. They are
>>> as follows.
>>>
>>> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40, 48,
>>> 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.
>>> --
>>>
>>> The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of times per
>>> x-axis lead screw turn. For more information, see the Crank Handle
>>> Indexing article.
>>> 
>>> Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle Revolution
>>> Gear No. of Cranks
>>> A 8
>>> B 12
>>> C 16
>>> D 18
>>> E 20
>>> F 24
>>> G 30
>>>
>>> The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º
>>> increments per revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks required to
>>> make one 1 spindle rotation by 8 you can calculate the number of turns the
>>> x axis lead screw crank handle will need to turn to move the rotary table
>>> one revolution. Each crank of the lead screw handle can be used as an equal
>>> division.
>>> Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear set
>>> Gear No. of Cranks / Divisions Degree Increments
>>> A 64 5.625
>>> B 96 3.75
>>> C 128 2.812
>>> D 144 2.5
>>> E 160 2.25
>>> F 192 1.875
>>> G 240 1.5
>>>
>>> These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For example,
>>> using the A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you can index the
>>> rotary table every 16 locations. However as you can see by this example, it
>>> would be much faster to index the table using a different method. Using the
>>> numbers above, here are the possible indexes available for each gear.
>>> Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear Set
>>> Gear
>>> Divisions
>>> A
>>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
>>> B
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
>>> C
>>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
>>> D
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144
>>> E
>>> 2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160
>>> F
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192
>>> G
>>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48 , 60
>>> , 80 , 120 , 240
>>> --
>>>
>>> Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact me -
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Updated: 6/27/2010
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
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Re: Learning a new way to do things.

[Tim Ziegler]

Exactly

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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 8:36 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thank you for posting these reference materials!  Would it be agreeable to
> you if I included this on the LegacyCharts spreadsheet I have been
> accumulating?  It makes for a handy local reference all things Legacy.
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:06:52 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hello Again everyone!
>>
>> I have posted these video's ,Mike posted some years back.
>> on his methods of indexing,  These methods have always worked for me in
>> the past. and I hope some of you will learn and try his methods as well.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o=17s Crank handle indexing.
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw=4s Carriage travel
>> indexing.
>>
>> As well as some notes for Tim K. on crank handle indexing.
>> Crank Handle Indexing for the Rotary TableAlternative Indexing Method
>> for Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> --
>>
>> Mike Pung posted an idea of using the stock gears as a method of indexing
>> the rotary table instead of the stock handle. Using the a drive shaft to
>> control the rotary tables motion the following indexes can be obtained with
>> the stock gear set. I have come up with what I believe to be a close to
>> definitive answer on the number of indexes available. They are as follows.
>>
>> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40, 48,
>> 60, 64, 72, 80, 96, 120, 128, 144, 160, 192, and 240.
>> --
>>
>> The stock gear set will turn the spindle a specific number of times per
>> x-axis lead screw turn. For more information, see the Crank Handle
>> Indexing article.
>> 
>> Standard gear set - Leadscrew handle turns for one spindle Revolution
>> GearNo. of Cranks
>> A 8
>> B 12
>> C 16
>> D 18
>> E 20
>> F 24
>> G 30
>>
>> The rotary table makes one revolution for every 8 cranks or 45º
>> increments per revolution. By multiplying the number of cranks required to
>> make one 1 spindle rotation by 8 you can calculate the number of turns the
>> x axis lead screw crank handle will need to turn to move the rotary table
>> one revolution. Each crank of the lead screw handle can be used as an equal
>> division.
>> Index Chart for Legacy's Standard Gear set
>> GearNo. of Cranks / DivisionsDegree Increments
>> A 64 5.625
>> B 96 3.75
>> C 128 2.812
>> D 144 2.5
>> E 160 2.25
>> F 192 1.875
>> G 240 1.5
>>
>> These can be broken down by skipping crank revolutions. For example,
>> using the A gear and making a cut once every 4 cranks you can index the
>> rotary table every 16 locations. However as you can see by this example, it
>> would be much faster to index the table using a different method. Using the
>> numbers above, here are the possible indexes available for each gear.
>> Rotary Table Indexes Standard Gear Set
>> Gear
>> Divisions
>> A
>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64
>> B
>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 96
>> C
>> 2 , 4 , 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128
>> D
>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 9 , 12 , 16 , 18 , 24 , 36 , 48 , 72 , 144
>> E
>> 2 , 4 , 5 , 8 , 10 , 16 , 20 , 32 , 40 , 80 , 160
>> F
>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 12 , 16 , 24 , 32 , 48 , 64 , 96 , 192
>> G
>> 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 15 , 16 , 20 , 24 , 30 , 40 , 48 , 60 ,
>> 80 , 120 , 240
>> --
>>
>> Questions or comments or corrections, please feel free to contact me -
>> Tim
>>
>> Updated: 6/27/2010
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

[Tim Ziegler]

thanks Curt

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 10:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> I think they were good inspiration to others, trying to see around the
> box. (so to speak.)
> I know that I have used some of your MOD's over the years.  and I have
> learned a lot form them.
>
> EVERYONE  Im going to make a new post on two of Mike's best concepts.
>
> More in a little bit.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 01:36:38 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Lol for sure
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2024, 9:43 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI will start it from the beginning.  Those
> were the simple mods, I got pretty squirrely on some of them.  Those were
> the days
>
> Mike OK
> On 5/15/2024 12:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

[Tim Ziegler]

Lol for sure

On Wed, May 15, 2024, 9:43 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
wrote:

> https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI will start it from the beginning.  Those
> were the simple mods, I got pretty squirrely on some of them.  Those were
> the days
>
> Mike OK
> On 5/15/2024 12:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

[Tim Ziegler]

Lol

On Wed, May 15, 2024, 9:43 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
wrote:

> https://youtu.be/ooqZZkCp7tI will start it from the beginning.  Those
> were the simple mods, I got pretty squirrely on some of them.  Those were
> the days
>
> Mike OK
> On 5/15/2024 12:12 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

[Tim Ziegler]

For sure Bill for sure.
Keeps one's mind fresh and full of idea's.

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2:25 AM  wrote:

> Yea never gets old dose it mikes woodchuck
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2024 3:12 PM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
>
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
>
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
>
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> C.A.G.
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Re: Mike's video on the Wood chuck and some of his MOD's

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt. Yeah I will have to rewatch that for sure.
I have it up as a tab so I don't forget.

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:12 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI=311s
> I just saw this again. 7yrs old now. but still a lot of fun to watch.
> Thanks Mike. ;-)
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> C.A.G.
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Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?

[Tim Ziegler]

Welcome Robert,

We try to be good communicators with everyone. We encourage posting and
showing your projects off etc...
We all look forward to seeing what you can create.

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On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 12:28 PM Shuai Robert  wrote:

> an elementary school teacher received one with stand and router as a gift
> rusting in his backyard
>
> I worked at wood supply store and he asked if anyone want it for $300, i
> have never used it, but just for the metal parts it's worth more than 300 i
> think...
>
> Great group I appreciate all these emails, even though I only read ~10% of
> it it's better than any other groups I've ever joined
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 3:24 AM Timothy Krause 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your
>> ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to
>> bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real
>> niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few
>> people could figure out how they were made.
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> -Tim
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Re: May Bones/Sundays project

[Tim Ziegler]

Very good thanks for sharing that with us Scott.

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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 12:54 PM Scott Gauze  wrote:

> Hey All
> Found a guy in Kentucky that has a lot of wood in quantity and several
> species and he can ship
> Appalachian woodcrafters
> 1-606-244-5250
>
> Sent from Scott Gauze
> 1-606-571-8553
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>
> On May 13, 2024, at 1:08 PM, 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
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>  Nice !!!
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> 
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024, 9:36 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> Good morning everyone.
> Bill etching glass I know it could be done, but that is something that I
> have not tried.
>
> John as far as training.  I suggest to "PLAY" with  your machine as much
> as you can, that is the best training you can get, Try new things and see
> what you come up with.
> AS a Side note. DO NOT attempt to make anything for real while you Play,
> Use "Free" wood, (fire wood, scraps wood, garbage finds. to name a few...
> You do not want to waist good wood while you play.)
>
> Last night after I posted my projects, I went back out and touched up one
> of my bone turnings. Its not 100% true/symmetrical, to the turning, but
> over all I think I like it.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:32:57 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> thats why the VCR tapes and videos I would say.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
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>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 7:27 PM John Von Brandt 
> wrote:
>
> Hey Curt,
> Has anybody done a class on the legacy mill?
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 4:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I found some time in the shop today. (and since Tim K. asked, I would show
> you all that I'm NOT out of bone yet.) ;-)
>
> Any question, are, as always welcome. I did some new tricks on these
> that I have  not used before.
> Please let me know what you think?
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?

[Tim Ziegler]

You Rock Mike, you are truly the one that got me going on this crazy
endeavor and I would not trade it or our friendship for anything in the
world.
I too have made a lot of friends along the way that I will cherish forever.
Happy LOM-ing all.


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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 11:14 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
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> It was the mid 90's and I was still in the Air Force and was working on
> the next stage in my life, retirement!  So that lasted a week and I was
> ready to get something started.  Woodworking was always a hobby for me so I
> was pretty well equipped.  After all, I had a Shop-smith! One day I was
> looking for a porch post that was too big for my lathe to handle and
> happened across a column and stair company downtown.  While I was waiting
> my turn, the customer ordered some balusters and also brought in a chair
> spindle to see if they could duplicate it.  The lady said no but I was
> standing behind the guy out of his sight shaking my head yes!  She said
> just a moment and took the spindle around the corner, I followed her and
> told her I could do that for her company.  She went back and told the guy
> yes and the relationship began before I ever said hello.  I noticed the
> balusters he purchased were pretty plain and asked Betty, after the
> customer was gone, if I added a rope pattern to the stock part, if she
> thought it would sell.  She said bring me one and we will see.  I ordered
> the Wood-Chuck that day and the rest is history.  I've watch the Legacy
> grow out of the Woodchuck as steel and then aluminum, then to CNC.  But I
> still hold on to the Woodchuck because of all the things I can do with it,
> you just can't with the Legacy red line.  My business was 80% based on the
> turning and roping and 20% on radius mill-work using the Woodchuck or the
> Williams and Hussy molder.  30 years was a great run and now, looking back,
> the greatest twist that ever came from the ornamental world was the friends
> I have made.  Some friends have passed on and others are immortal but
> fellow sawdust chewers and customers alike have a huge place in my heart.
> I found a Customer-friend-student to pass on my twisted ways to. Doug said
> to me when we first started the possibility of him taking the business,
> that he loved to see a piece of lumber and visualize what was in there.  I
> knew right then that he was going to be a great fit!  I'm a lucky man to
> have had the opportunities I have had.  I guess my secret is this, when
> asked "Could you do this?" My response is always "Absolutely!  Then I
> figure out how and smile at what I got myself into.  Never second guess,
> just get started.  I love this group because I see a lot of the same
> attitude.  I'm proud of you all!  I am always here if anyone needs help.
> And will always be a LiLtwisted.
>
> Mike OK
>
> Mike Pung 405-650-0542
> On 5/12/2024 5:24 AM, Timothy Krause wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your
> ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to bring a
> different level of details to my current work. I was in a real niche market
> that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few people could figure
> out how they were made.
>
> How about you?
>
> -Tim
>
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Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?

[Tim Ziegler]

I know right Bill. lol.

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On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 8:47 PM  wrote:

> obsessed with owning more LOM's you Tim nah lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2024 11:25 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?
>
>
>
> Hey Tim,
>
>
>
> Sorry little late in getting into the discussion but I would still like to
> say
>
> why I bought my first WoodChuck then my first LOM.
>
> When they originally came out I was really not too interested in them.
>
> I was rather misled that if you had a lathe you didn't need the LOM's.
>
> Furthest thing from the truth. I traded for my WoodChuck a Delta lathe
>
> duplicator. But not until I did some research and spoke with Mike Pung
>
> for over 2 hours one night. After that I saw the cool spirals and different
>
> things I could do with it and went ahead and made the trade. Now I could
>
> have some real fun. Wasn't long and Mike sent me a link to a 1200 LOM
>
> for sale. I just knew I had to have it. So my college kids were home on
>
> Christmas break and we know someone that needed money that agreed
>
> to take the trip to pick it up down in texas. I was super excited as now
>
> I would be able to make many of the items posted on our current forum.
>
> I absolutely love my 1200 and knew it would benefit me in my business.
>
> And it has. However I become rather obsessed with owning more LOM's.
>
> To date I own 6 complete machines and at least 2 more in tare downs
>
> and as parts. At least 4 of my machines have drive motors. I have made
>
> boat parts, table legs, fluted rails, spirals etc...
>
> I love them and have a lot of fun with them.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:24 AM Timothy Krause 
> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your
> ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to
> bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real
> niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few
> people could figure out how they were made.
>
> How about you?
>
> -Tim
>
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Re: May Bones/Sundays project

[Tim Ziegler]

thats why the VCR tapes and videos I would say.

Kind Regards,

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On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 7:27 PM John Von Brandt 
wrote:

> Hey Curt,
> Has anybody done a class on the legacy mill?
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 4:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> I found some time in the shop today. (and since Tim K. asked, I would
>> show you all that I'm NOT out of bone yet.) ;-)
>>
>> Any question, are, as always welcome. I did some new tricks on these
>> that I have  not used before.
>> Please let me know what you think?
>>
>> C.A.G.
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Re: May Bones/Sundays project

[Tim Ziegler]

Those are looking great Curt. As always.
Love the sheen that bone provides.

Kind Regards,

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On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Everyone.
>
> I found some time in the shop today. (and since Tim K. asked, I would show
> you all that I'm NOT out of bone yet.) ;-)
>
> Any question, are, as always welcome. I did some new tricks on these
> that I have  not used before.
> Please let me know what you think?
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Tim,

Sorry little late in getting into the discussion but I would still like to
say
why I bought my first WoodChuck then my first LOM.
When they originally came out I was really not too interested in them.
I was rather misled that if you had a lathe you didn't need the LOM's.
Furthest thing from the truth. I traded for my WoodChuck a Delta lathe
duplicator. But not until I did some research and spoke with Mike Pung
for over 2 hours one night. After that I saw the cool spirals and different
things I could do with it and went ahead and made the trade. Now I could
have some real fun. Wasn't long and Mike sent me a link to a 1200 LOM
for sale. I just knew I had to have it. So my college kids were home on
Christmas break and we know someone that needed money that agreed
to take the trip to pick it up down in texas. I was super excited as now
I would be able to make many of the items posted on our current forum.
I absolutely love my 1200 and knew it would benefit me in my business.
And it has. However I become rather obsessed with owning more LOM's.
To date I own 6 complete machines and at least 2 more in tare downs
and as parts. At least 4 of my machines have drive motors. I have made
boat parts, table legs, fluted rails, spirals etc...
I love them and have a lot of fun with them.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
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On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:24 AM Timothy Krause 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your
> ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to
> bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real
> niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few
> people could figure out how they were made.
>
> How about you?
>
> -Tim
>
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Re: Hello to the Group

[Tim Ziegler]

Yup it is

On Sat, May 11, 2024, 5:18 PM  wrote:

> Do not fear the warning that comes up when you click on curts link it is
> safe to continue to the site
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 12, 2024 12:08 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Hello to the Group
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone.
>
>
>
> Just a friendly note to say hello.
>
> The LOM users group has been a little bit slow as of late.
>
> We have a number of new members this month. But sadly
>
> many of them have not posted yet.
>
> If anyone has any questions or answer to plaguing problems
>
> they have figured out how to fix.  This is the prefect time to let
>
> everyone know.
>
> I found a topic in our archives that I though many people here has
>
> not seen before on the rotatory table.
>
> https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/rotary%20table.htm
>
> *Russ V*
>
>   If you are going to do a couple of rosettes only, hot glue is the way.
> If you are going to do a lot of the same size you can build a table for
> them.  I built a second table that I double tape to the original table. My
> original table I never use directly.  I drilled a 1/4" hole in the center
> and make a secondary table that I attach with double sided tape.  This hole
> helps me quickly align my rotary table to the router and to align the
> second table to the first table by using a 1/4" dowel.  To make the rosette
> hold down table I screwed blocks on three sides of center to hold the
> rosette centered.  The 4th side is on a pivot that when closed I lock it
> with the 5th swivel block and a dowel pin to hold it locked.  If you are
> going to cut on the outside
> to make it round then use a small piece of DS tape to hold the piece once
> you cut it loose.  If they are already cut to size and shape the you only
> need to lock it in the table.  I used sand paper on the stationary blocks
> and a nail cut off  on the pivot block to help hold the rosette.  I am
> thinking that now I am going to make a table with sliding track going out
> in 4 directions from center so I can then adjust the blocks to fit any size
> rosette.
>
>  I wouldn't particularly want to use the indexing table to cut blocks
> round.  On small objects I use the band saw and then a jig on my
> oscillating sander to smooth the edges and get the final diameter.  Much
> Much Safer.  Use the rotary table to cut the surface only not all the way
> thru.  Screws, hot glue, DS tape are all good and well, but when I do
> rosettes I usually do 100 or 200 at a time.  The less screwing the better (
> in this case).  With my table, I can change out the rosette in seconds . .
> . no holes, no hot glue residue to clean up, and no DS tape to peel.
> Again, I think  I will redo this table with sliding tracks, I then can set
> up to do any size rosette ( or box lid).  The DS tape to hold the secondary
> table isn't holding much (stress wise) since I use a dowel in the center.
> The tape only hold the table from spinning.   I guess I could screw the
> secondary table down but I like to keep  my primary table clean with only
> the center hole so it will last.  I think I am going to put a Formica
> laminate on it to make it more durable and let DS tape stick better.
> The center hole technique to center everything is really handy.  Once I
> center the table, everything can be centered quicker too.   For example, If
> I am going to center several object of the same size, I make one with a
> hole in the center so I can then set it in place with a dowel.  Then I DS
> tape cleats in place on two sides.  Now, every piece I set, whether with
> hot glue, DS tape or whatever, the cleats will help me align to center
> quicker.
>
> *Russv*
>
> As to centering, if you look at my table pics you will see there are lines
> drawn on the table.  To create lines is as follows:
>
> After centering the machine, put a bit with a point in the router.  Put
> the router over center, lock the carriage down on the x axis,  and plunge
> down to barely touch the table.  Start the router and plunge down.  Then
> slide the router along the y axis in one direction to the outside edge to
> make a score line.  Come back to center.  Do not go the other direction on
> the y axis.  Turn the handle on the rotary table one full turn and slide
> the router along the y axis again and back to center.  Do this 8 times and
> you
> should see 4 long lines on your table at 45 degrees apart.  The reason you
> don't go both directions off the y axis is so that now when you look at the
> lines, they should look straight all along the line even though you drew it
> by two operations.  If the lines don't look straight, then you weren't
> centered.
> If everything looks straight, then you are good to go.  Make sure you
> always line the router to this center point and you will be good to go. To
> align a block of wood is simple now.  If the block of wood has 90 

Re: Legacy Rose adaptor

[Tim Ziegler]

Some pretty cool stuff for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 11:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Bill Yes to Nova attachment was a very neat tool.  I have seen some
> other home made tools that do almost the same things , but this was a very
> well designed machine.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BEVkDnkZ0I  This video shows another
> factory made tool that Almost dose the same things.
> I also found this web site...
> https://woodworkersinstitute.com/projects/2023/09/ornamental-turning-made-easy/
> that covers some ideas that, We Legacy users could do with out much
> problems.
>
> Check it out.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4 aussiman wrote:
>
>> Great going guys I look forward to anything you come up with
>> unfortunately I am court up in other nonlegacy things for a while one being
>> making a
>>
>> Similar thing to the nova ornamental turner   for my nova lathe.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And I have to make a few things for outside my house and shop I been
>> putting it off for too long I’m getting some nice warm weather now so I’m
>> taking advantage of it while it lasts
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 1, 2024 8:57 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy Rose adaptor
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Curt,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes I think this is an exciting topic and would really be great to have
>> some of the
>>
>> other Master Minds start thinking about it and helping us come up with
>> idea's.
>>
>> Even if they are not interested in changing their own machine just giving
>> us feed back and
>>
>> helping get at least you where you want it to go.
>>
>> I have a  oscillation control off of one of my past sander's that I am
>> considering using to see if
>>
>> I can get my Router carriage to move back and forth independently too for
>> possibly waves
>>
>> on flats and also to aid in doing exactly what you're thinking about.
>>
>> Good stuff and just another fun way to make our LOM's do more.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>> Mills  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for replying to this topic.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have had a few questions on this topic as far as what I've done (and
>> posted videos on Bill's web page.)
>>
>> I am again thinking about working along this mindset, of making a moving
>> template for adding details to my turning's, On/for my Legacy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good night.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 12:23:17 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Curt,
>>
>> This is very interest. Thanks for sharing, I have some equipment that I
>> am going to try too.
>>
>> This is very motivating.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing, Anyone else have thoughts on this process
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 11:39:07 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was asked today to explain my Rose adaptor.
>>
>> (I made this for my Legacy. appx. 2yrs ago.)
>>
>> This is a video that We did on this topic.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNW0G5Ly_5c
>>
>>
>>
>> And here are some photo's of the parts, how it was made as well as how it
>> works/fits together.
>>
>> This was/is, a fun toy/tool. I hope you all like the idea, and may try to
>> make your own version.
>>
>> If all goes well, I hope to be using this adaptor again pretty soon on my
>> Legacy. (NOTE a Rose lathe with 

Re: Legacy Rose adaptor

[Tim Ziegler]

Well I'm sure hoping we all can dig into this and make it a great project.

Tim

On Wed, May 1, 2024, 7:29 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Good morning everyone.
>
> Tim I like that idea.
>
> I hope you will be able to do some research on this ?  It sounds to me
> like there are some very real possibility's, I wish you luck!
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 06:57:16 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Curt,
>
> Yes I think this is an exciting topic and would really be great to have
> some of the
> other Master Minds start thinking about it and helping us come up with
> idea's.
> Even if they are not interested in changing their own machine just giving
> us feed back and
> helping get at least you where you want it to go.
> I have a  oscillation control off of one of my past sander's that I am
> considering using to see if
> I can get my Router carriage to move back and forth independently too for
> possibly waves
> on flats and also to aid in doing exactly what you're thinking about.
> Good stuff and just another fun way to make our LOM's do more.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hi Tim.
>
> Thank you for replying to this topic.
>
> I have had a few questions on this topic as far as what I've done (and
> posted videos on Bill's web page.)
> I am again thinking about working along this mindset, of making a moving
> template for adding details to my turning's, On/for my Legacy.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 12:23:17 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt,
> This is very interest. Thanks for sharing, I have some equipment that I am
> going to try too.
> This is very motivating.
> Thanks for sharing, Anyone else have thoughts on this process
>
>
> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 11:39:07 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I was asked today to explain my Rose adaptor.
> (I made this for my Legacy. appx. 2yrs ago.)
> This is a video that We did on this topic.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNW0G5Ly_5c
>
> And here are some photo's of the parts, how it was made as well as how it
> works/fits together.
> This was/is, a fun toy/tool. I hope you all like the idea, and may try to
> make your own version.
> If all goes well, I hope to be using this adaptor again pretty soon on my
> Legacy. (NOTE a Rose lathe with an Acme screw is "NOT" something you see
> all that often in the OT world. But you Can see it here, LOM users group. )
> ;-)
> "Legacy, where your only limitation is your Imagination". ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Legacy Rose adaptor

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt,

Yes I think this is an exciting topic and would really be great to have
some of the
other Master Minds start thinking about it and helping us come up with
idea's.
Even if they are not interested in changing their own machine just giving
us feed back and
helping get at least you where you want it to go.
I have a  oscillation control off of one of my past sander's that I am
considering using to see if
I can get my Router carriage to move back and forth independently too for
possibly waves
on flats and also to aid in doing exactly what you're thinking about.
Good stuff and just another fun way to make our LOM's do more.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:49 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim.
>
> Thank you for replying to this topic.
>
> I have had a few questions on this topic as far as what I've done (and
> posted videos on Bill's web page.)
> I am again thinking about working along this mindset, of making a moving
> template for adding details to my turning's, On/for my Legacy.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 12:23:17 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt,
> This is very interest. Thanks for sharing, I have some equipment that I am
> going to try too.
> This is very motivating.
> Thanks for sharing, Anyone else have thoughts on this process
>
>
> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 11:39:07 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I was asked today to explain my Rose adaptor.
> (I made this for my Legacy. appx. 2yrs ago.)
> This is a video that We did on this topic.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNW0G5Ly_5c
>
> And here are some photo's of the parts, how it was made as well as how it
> works/fits together.
> This was/is, a fun toy/tool. I hope you all like the idea, and may try to
> make your own version.
> If all goes well, I hope to be using this adaptor again pretty soon on my
> Legacy. (NOTE a Rose lathe with an Acme screw is "NOT" something you see
> all that often in the OT world. But you Can see it here, LOM users group. )
> ;-)
> "Legacy, where your only limitation is your Imagination". ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: How to put your LOM to good use by reviewing ideas from around 1900.

[Tim Ziegler]

yup good stuff for sure.

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On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 11:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone. (just got home from work.)
> I have seen this book before. And agree with the assessment, Yes this book
> dose give people some ideas
> for wood working projects.
>
> Thank you for posting this.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 02:39:02 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Very interesting there is some really interesting possible things that can
> be done on the legacy in it great find.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Nathaniel Bacon
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2024 1:29 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* How to put your LOM to good use by reviewing ideas from around
> 1900.
>
>
>
> Check out the book "Universal Design Book" from 1906. It's avalable for
> viewing and / or downloading from from U.S. Archive.ORG at
> <
> https://ia800905.us.archive.org/8/items/universaldesignb00whol/universaldesignb00whol.pdf
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Re: wood drying

[Tim Ziegler]

yes Sir

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 6:42 AM  wrote:

> Good my emails seem to be up and running again
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2024 9:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: wood drying
>
>
>
> Perfect Bill it came through just fine today.
>
> Good information too. Thanks again.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:47 PM  wrote:
>
> Yea the crystals are cheap and reusable, every summer I thinly spread them
> out on a big metal tray I have and the hot Australian sun dries them
>
> Out again, then I bag them up to use again. I totally bury the wood in the
> crystals sometimes wrapping cling wrap around the ends of the wood to slow
> the drying from the ends which as you know where the crack start from. This
> is my method is for log type wood cut strait from the tree.
>
> Wood here fresh cut you only have an hour or so before the ends start to
> get those hair line cracks  so minutes after cutting I wrap and tape the
> ends in the cling wrap leaving the moister to be dawn out by the crystals
> through the bark.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2024 10:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: wood drying
>
>
>
> Yeah I remember you mentioning that's a working method too.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024, 7:07 AM  wrote:
>
> I have dried wood buried in cat litter crystals with some success in the
> past
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:40 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: wood drying
>
>
>
> What is your method Curt?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 11:09 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> This version is different form what I have used in the past.
>
> Perhaps I will try it one day?
>
> Thank you .
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 08:54:46 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.wikihow.com/Dry-Wood-Slices-Without-Cracking?utm_source=wikihow_medium=article_campaign=amp
>
>
>
> came across this today some of you all might find it interesting
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: wood drying

[Tim Ziegler]

Perfect Bill it came through just fine today.
Good information too. Thanks again.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:47 PM  wrote:

> Yea the crystals are cheap and reusable, every summer I thinly spread them
> out on a big metal tray I have and the hot Australian sun dries them
>
> Out again, then I bag them up to use again. I totally bury the wood in the
> crystals sometimes wrapping cling wrap around the ends of the wood to slow
> the drying from the ends which as you know where the crack start from. This
> is my method is for log type wood cut strait from the tree.
>
> Wood here fresh cut you only have an hour or so before the ends start to
> get those hair line cracks  so minutes after cutting I wrap and tape the
> ends in the cling wrap leaving the moister to be dawn out by the crystals
> through the bark.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2024 10:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: wood drying
>
>
>
> Yeah I remember you mentioning that's a working method too.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024, 7:07 AM  wrote:
>
> I have dried wood buried in cat litter crystals with some success in the
> past
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:40 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: wood drying
>
>
>
> What is your method Curt?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 11:09 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> This version is different form what I have used in the past.
>
> Perhaps I will try it one day?
>
> Thank you .
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 08:54:46 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.wikihow.com/Dry-Wood-Slices-Without-Cracking?utm_source=wikihow_medium=article_campaign=amp
>
>
>
> came across this today some of you all might find it interesting
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: How to put your LOM to good use by reviewing ideas from around 1900.

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey thats pretty cool. Thanks for sharing it. Nice find.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 10:29 PM Nathaniel Bacon 
wrote:

> Check out the book "Universal Design Book" from 1906. It's avalable for
> viewing and / or downloading from from U.S. Archive.ORG at
> <
> https://ia800905.us.archive.org/8/items/universaldesignb00whol/universaldesignb00whol.pdf
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Re: wood drying

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah I remember you mentioning that's a working method too.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024, 7:07 AM  wrote:

> I have dried wood buried in cat litter crystals with some success in the
> past
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:40 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: wood drying
>
>
>
> What is your method Curt?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 11:09 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill
>
>
>
> This version is different form what I have used in the past.
>
> Perhaps I will try it one day?
>
> Thank you .
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 08:54:46 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.wikihow.com/Dry-Wood-Slices-Without-Cracking?utm_source=wikihow_medium=article_campaign=amp
>
>
>
> came across this today some of you all might find it interesting
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: wood drying

[Tim Ziegler]

What is your method Curt?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 11:09 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Bill
>
> This version is different form what I have used in the past.
> Perhaps I will try it one day?
> Thank you .
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 08:54:46 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.wikihow.com/Dry-Wood-Slices-Without-Cracking?utm_source=wikihow_medium=article_campaign=amp
>
>
>
> came across this today some of you all might find it interesting
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: wood drying

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Bill,
Actually have a game call maker I was talking with yesterday about that
very thing
so I will be sharing it with him. Great find and thanks.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 7:54 PM  wrote:

>
> https://www.wikihow.com/Dry-Wood-Slices-Without-Cracking?utm_source=wikihow_medium=article_campaign=amp
>
>
>
> came across this today some of you all might find it interesting
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: Sweet 16 bone blanks Apr. 2024

[Tim Ziegler]

yup looks great Curt.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 6:53 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey guys.
> Just turned another bone handle.  6 start with a 4" pitch.   Just having
> fun
>
> take care.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 9:54:01 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That's funny Curt. Tool orphanage lol I love it.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 7:54 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> HI guys!
>>>
>>> The shop is a two car garage that has not seen a car in it for some 35
>>> Years.
>>> I've been hanging my collection of goodies in the overhead for years
>>> now. Old saw blades, lanterns, Lead working equipment, and LOTs of wood
>>> working stuff.  My shop is a one man shop that two men couldn't work  in at
>>> the same time.
>>> Thanks Tim for the note on the bone turning, I like it too, but I still
>>> think something is either missing or needs to be adjusted around a little
>>> bit, to make it prefect. My original goal was to make a long rope on the
>>> curve of the handle. But sadly I cut to deep on the cove where a rope would
>>> have cut into the brass ruining it, so I opted not to do any ornamental
>>> accents for this handle.
>>> The bone blanks, I still have enough disks to make appx 5 more blanks.
>>> But at this time,16 is or should be enough for me, for at least a while.
>>> ;-)
>>> Bill as far a messy shops, Mine still needs a lot of cleaning, and I am
>>> running out of room to store my treasures.
>>>
>>> I have a hard time throwing anything away, But I do not have any
>>> problems giving things to people who need them, I more or less think of my
>>> shop, like a Tool Orphanage ,(I guess, I'm going to have to find some more
>>> people to adopt some of my lost tools.) ;-)
>>>
>>> Have a good night.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 07:29:46 PM EDT, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Where is your shop curt looks like a wooden barn or something and my
>>> shop is much messier than yours lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2024 6:02 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
>>> *Subject:* Sweet 16 bone blanks Apr. 2024
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a few photo's of today's project's.
>>>
>>> I glued up 16 bone blanks today, using up an entire new
>>>
>>> bottle of CA Glue all up, I used most of the bone disks that I just
>>> processes last month.
>>>
>>> I was also able to cut a new design bone handle today. (nothing fancy
>>> but I think I like the shape.) All my new Stainless steel templates were
>>> cut by hand, I think I am getting better at it? (but there still is a lot
>>> more room for growth .) ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm pretty happy with the results of today's labor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After taking these photo's I now relies that the rest of my day, really
>>> should be to start cleaning up the shop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "So" back to work I  go. ;-p
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> talk to you all more latter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
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Re: Sweet 16 bone blanks Apr. 2024

[Tim Ziegler]

That's funny Curt. Tool orphanage lol I love it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 7:54 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> HI guys!
>
> The shop is a two car garage that has not seen a car in it for some 35
> Years.
> I've been hanging my collection of goodies in the overhead for years now.
> Old saw blades, lanterns, Lead working equipment, and LOTs of wood working
> stuff.  My shop is a one man shop that two men couldn't work  in at the
> same time.
> Thanks Tim for the note on the bone turning, I like it too, but I still
> think something is either missing or needs to be adjusted around a little
> bit, to make it prefect. My original goal was to make a long rope on the
> curve of the handle. But sadly I cut to deep on the cove where a rope would
> have cut into the brass ruining it, so I opted not to do any ornamental
> accents for this handle.
> The bone blanks, I still have enough disks to make appx 5 more blanks. But
> at this time,16 is or should be enough for me, for at least a while. ;-)
> Bill as far a messy shops, Mine still needs a lot of cleaning, and I am
> running out of room to store my treasures.
>
> I have a hard time throwing anything away, But I do not have any problems
> giving things to people who need them, I more or less think of my shop,
> like a Tool Orphanage ,(I guess, I'm going to have to find some more people
> to adopt some of my lost tools.) ;-)
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 07:29:46 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Where is your shop curt looks like a wooden barn or something and my shop
> is much messier than yours lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2024 6:02 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Sweet 16 bone blanks Apr. 2024
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>
>
> Just a few photo's of today's project's.
>
> I glued up 16 bone blanks today, using up an entire new
>
> bottle of CA Glue all up, I used most of the bone disks that I just
> processes last month.
>
> I was also able to cut a new design bone handle today. (nothing fancy but
> I think I like the shape.) All my new Stainless steel templates were cut by
> hand, I think I am getting better at it? (but there still is a lot more
> room for growth .) ;-)
>
> I'm pretty happy with the results of today's labor.
>
>
>
> After taking these photo's I now relies that the rest of my day, really
> should be to start cleaning up the shop.
>
>
>
> "So" back to work I  go. ;-p
>
>
>
> talk to you all more latter.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Sweet 16 bone blanks Apr. 2024

[Tim Ziegler]

by the way I like you little collection hanging in the rafters too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 3:03 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just a few photo's of today's project's.
> I glued up 16 bone blanks today, using up an entire new
> bottle of CA Glue all up, I used most of the bone disks that I just
> processes last month.
> I was also able to cut a new design bone handle today. (nothing fancy but
> I think I like the shape.) All my new Stainless steel templates were cut by
> hand, I think I am getting better at it? (but there still is a lot more
> room for growth .) ;-)
> I'm pretty happy with the results of today's labor.
>
> After taking these photo's I now relies that the rest of my day, really
> should be to start cleaning up the shop.
>
> "So" back to work I  go. ;-p
>
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Sweet 16 bone blanks Apr. 2024

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt,

Thats looking really good. I really like that shape. Totally different than
any in the past.
Glad you were so busy for sure.
I got some out to glue it's just taking time to glue them up and turn them.
Thanks for sharing. Again great job.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 3:03 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just a few photo's of today's project's.
> I glued up 16 bone blanks today, using up an entire new
> bottle of CA Glue all up, I used most of the bone disks that I just
> processes last month.
> I was also able to cut a new design bone handle today. (nothing fancy but
> I think I like the shape.) All my new Stainless steel templates were cut by
> hand, I think I am getting better at it? (but there still is a lot more
> room for growth .) ;-)
> I'm pretty happy with the results of today's labor.
>
> After taking these photo's I now relies that the rest of my day, really
> should be to start cleaning up the shop.
>
> "So" back to work I  go. ;-p
>
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Odd ball question to our group

[Tim Ziegler]

looks like it

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On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 5:28 PM  wrote:

> Yea I think I fixed it again
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 21, 2024 5:05 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Odd ball question to our group
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> Trouble with the email again?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 1:38 PM aussiman  wrote:
>
> im not receving these by email not sure why but i have all these too anyway
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 11:01:51 PM UTC+10 Curt George wrote:
>
> Good morning everyone.
>
> Now that my brain is working again.  ("Man" I was tired last night!)
>
> Here are the photo's form the original posting.(form 2019)
>
> These photo's are the New OT jig, Not the original Nova OT. (But what a
> neat jig!)
>
>
>
> I hope you all enjoy these photo's.   I have to get to work now.
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 01:07:46 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Nova OT  from our archives.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:44:25 PM UTC-4 aussiman wrote:
>
>
>
> Here you go curt do you want the videos too I have them saved to my
> computer as well ,  I kept it all to some day work it into the legacy as
> well 
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 23 September 2019 1:21 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Odd ball question to our group
>
>
>
> Hello Harvey
>
> The man who invented the Nova OT chuck, showed me some photos of his new
> chuck, I was trying to see if he is selling this new one, and if so where
> to find it?  I only have one out of four photos that I can find. the others
> were lost.  ;-(
>
> I was playing with the idea of adding something like this to my Legacy...
> ;-)  It would make the Legacy work more like a rose lathe, when you want it
> to.  Crazy idea, but it might be worth the effort to check...
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 11:00:39 PM EDT, Harvey Matyas <
> hmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> Is this what you where trying to find?
>
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/legacy-ornamental-mills/NOVA$20OT$20chuck/legacy-ornamental-mills/fd72hz5XLyU/2HVXwjRIPMgJ
>
>
>
> Harvey
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 9:08 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> This question goes back a few years. (To make a long story shorter, when
> my computer crashed I lost some info. that I am now looking for again.)
>
>
>
> I was looking info. on what was called a NOVA OT chuck.(Its no longer made
> by Nova.)
>
>
>
> I made contact with the man who has the copy write on this chuck, One of
> our members gave me his e-mail a while back.
>
>
>
> It seems to me that the internet is not as user's friendly as it once
> was.  I am having a hard time looking up things that I thought I knew where
> they were,  much of what I lost I can not find anymore. things like this OT
> chuck,  I would be great-full for any info. I could get...
>
>
>
> As a side note, a lot of the info. that I lost I was able to find (at
> least in part) in our archives. Its a great resource, If you haven't used
> it , you could be missing something... ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Odd ball question to our group

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Bill,

Trouble with the email again?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 1:38 PM aussiman  wrote:

> im not receving these by email not sure why but i have all these too anyway
>
> Bill
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 11:01:51 PM UTC+10 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Good morning everyone.
>> Now that my brain is working again.  ("Man" I was tired last night!)
>> Here are the photo's form the original posting.(form 2019)
>> These photo's are the New OT jig, Not the original Nova OT. (But what a
>> neat jig!)
>>
>> I hope you all enjoy these photo's.   I have to get to work now.
>> Have a great day.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 01:07:46 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nova OT  from our archives.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:44:25 PM UTC-4 aussiman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Here you go curt do you want the videos too I have them saved to my
>> computer as well ,  I kept it all to some day work it into the legacy as
>> well 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, 23 September 2019 1:21 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Odd ball question to our group
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Harvey
>>
>> The man who invented the Nova OT chuck, showed me some photos of his new
>> chuck, I was trying to see if he is selling this new one, and if so where
>> to find it?  I only have one out of four photos that I can find. the others
>> were lost.  ;-(
>>
>> I was playing with the idea of adding something like this to my Legacy...
>> ;-)  It would make the Legacy work more like a rose lathe, when you want it
>> to.  Crazy idea, but it might be worth the effort to check...
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> [image: Inline image]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 11:00:39 PM EDT, Harvey Matyas <
>> hmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Curt
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this what you where trying to find?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/legacy-ornamental-mills/NOVA$20OT$20chuck/legacy-ornamental-mills/fd72hz5XLyU/2HVXwjRIPMgJ
>>
>>
>>
>> Harvey
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 9:08 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> This question goes back a few years. (To make a long story shorter, when
>> my computer crashed I lost some info. that I am now looking for again.)
>>
>>
>>
>> I was looking info. on what was called a NOVA OT chuck.(Its no longer
>> made by Nova.)
>>
>>
>>
>> I made contact with the man who has the copy write on this chuck, One of
>> our members gave me his e-mail a while back.
>>
>>
>>
>> It seems to me that the internet is not as user's friendly as it once
>> was.  I am having a hard time looking up things that I thought I knew where
>> they were,  much of what I lost I can not find anymore. things like this OT
>> chuck,  I would be great-full for any info. I could get...
>>
>>
>>
>> As a side note, a lot of the info. that I lost I was able to find (at
>> least in part) in our archives. Its a great resource, If you haven't used
>> it , you could be missing something... ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> --
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>> 
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Re: Odd ball question to our group

[Tim Ziegler]

Thats pretty cool and thanks for sharing

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On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 8:01 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Good morning everyone.
> Now that my brain is working again.  ("Man" I was tired last night!)
> Here are the photo's form the original posting.(form 2019)
> These photo's are the New OT jig, Not the original Nova OT. (But what a
> neat jig!)
>
> I hope you all enjoy these photo's.   I have to get to work now.
> Have a great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 01:07:46 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Nova OT  from our archives.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:44:25 PM UTC-4 aussiman wrote:
>
>
>
> Here you go curt do you want the videos too I have them saved to my
> computer as well ,  I kept it all to some day work it into the legacy as
> well 
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 23 September 2019 1:21 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Odd ball question to our group
>
>
>
> Hello Harvey
>
> The man who invented the Nova OT chuck, showed me some photos of his new
> chuck, I was trying to see if he is selling this new one, and if so where
> to find it?  I only have one out of four photos that I can find. the others
> were lost.  ;-(
>
> I was playing with the idea of adding something like this to my Legacy...
> ;-)  It would make the Legacy work more like a rose lathe, when you want it
> to.  Crazy idea, but it might be worth the effort to check...
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 11:00:39 PM EDT, Harvey Matyas <
> hmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> Is this what you where trying to find?
>
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/legacy-ornamental-mills/NOVA$20OT$20chuck/legacy-ornamental-mills/fd72hz5XLyU/2HVXwjRIPMgJ
>
>
>
> Harvey
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 9:08 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> This question goes back a few years. (To make a long story shorter, when
> my computer crashed I lost some info. that I am now looking for again.)
>
>
>
> I was looking info. on what was called a NOVA OT chuck.(Its no longer made
> by Nova.)
>
>
>
> I made contact with the man who has the copy write on this chuck, One of
> our members gave me his e-mail a while back.
>
>
>
> It seems to me that the internet is not as user's friendly as it once
> was.  I am having a hard time looking up things that I thought I knew where
> they were,  much of what I lost I can not find anymore. things like this OT
> chuck,  I would be great-full for any info. I could get...
>
>
>
> As a side note, a lot of the info. that I lost I was able to find (at
> least in part) in our archives. Its a great resource, If you haven't used
> it , you could be missing something... ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: April bone wave

[Tim Ziegler]

Looks great Curt. I alway enjoy seeing more of your bone turnings.

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 6:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Everyone.
>
> I decided to play around in the shop a little bit more today.
>
> This is my newest bone turning. using the wave attachment on a profile
> (Template following) The process is two 6 start waves with a bead as a gap.
> I think I am pretty happy with this one.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: New front mounted template follower

[Tim Ziegler]

looks pretty cool Curt. Now lets see a video of you using it.
I would like to see how fine of tracing pin you really can use to do more
then roughing it out.
Thanks for coming up with yet another innovation Curt.
Will be great to see it actually operational.
Kind Regards,

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Everyone.
>
> I just finished up working on my Front mounted template follower for my
> 1000ex.
> When I changed out my Z axis and added the linear rail to my machine,
> I lost the use of my old front mounted template follower.
>
> I like to use the template follower on my Legacy to do a number of
> different types of jobs. Outside the idea of making the Legacy into a
> direct copy lathe of sorts.
>
> Using a template is a great way to gain more control of your machine,
> with the use of a template you can rope on a profile on almost any
> spindle. You can add accents or details to any work you would like to make.
> (Flat work or round.)
>
> I could go on. with the use of how I have used this simple tool in the
> past. But for now, this is what I did, and why?
>
> I found using the template follower the way it was originally made on the
> Legacy, somewhat harder to use then it needed to be, Due to having the
> template so far form the working side/controls of the Legacy, to be
> problematic, and hard to control due to this distance , So years ago I
> re-designed my Legacy to hold the  templates in the front of my machine. To
> give me better control. And it worked out very well for me. (If you like
> you can search the archives to see the old pix.)
> In not 100% sure its done, Yet. but It is useable at this point. So I
> wanted to show everyone what I did .
>
> The template holder mounts to the lower rails of the legacy. (I am using
> Uni-strut, found in most electrical areas in any Big box stores and or
> electrical or plumbing supply houses.)
> The follower is just a pin or stylus that allows you to control the
> router. (the Y axis is left free floating when using the template follower.
> )
> For me I like to use both the motor control on my X axis and the follower
> of the template on the Y axis together to gain the best of both worlds. (so
> to speak.) Control and power is the goal.  Due to my use of the motor
> drive, My follower dose not have to be big and strong on the X axis. so you
> can see my follower is just 1/2" tubing. (its more then strong enough to
> control the X axis)
>
> "O" one more note, the follower is small at this time, but I can easily
> make it the full length of my Legacy if I want.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Router cord control question

[Tim Ziegler]

yup pretty much what I did.

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On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 12:10 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Everyone.  (Just got home form work.)
>
> I was asked about different methods to keep the cord out of the way when
> using the Legacy.
> This topic  has come up in the past.
> Here is a link that can cover this question.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> https://ornamentalmills.com/tips/router_cord_control/router_cord_control.html
> Router Cord Control
>
> After reading a lot or previous posts, I saw that some people were having
> trouble keeping their router cords out of the way. Before I ever turned my
> machine on #900 I saw that the cord could easily be damaged if you are not
> careful.  In fact, a friend of mine told me the other day that he ran over
> his cord with the router.  Luckily there were no injuries.  I then mounted
> mine on the back of the template follower with two ty-wraps.  So far this
> has not interfered with the operation of the router.  I probably won't use
> any templates very often.  If I do, I will cut the ty-wraps off and use the
> templates.  After I get through, I will replace them.  Am enclosing a
> picture of my setup.  MickeyMac
>
> --
>
> Very Nice MickyMac
> I had the very same problem a few years ago,
> This is what I did.
> My Legacy dose not move around my shop, so I sorta hard wired the cord
> onto a cable guide,and used a 1/8" cable with some hooks I installed into
> the 2x4's above my machine, I used shower curtain brackets and electrical
> bracket ties to connect the hole set up together. My set up cost me under
> $5.00 .
> And Never again will I get my cord cut or caught in the workings of the
> Legacy . :-)
> have a good night.
> C.A.G.
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Re: New X-4 gear set.

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt good stuff.

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On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 9:56 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> We did have a gentleman in our group, who made his own gear linkage a few
> years back.
> his gear reduction set looks more like Legacy's 2000 & 2200 gear linkage.
> but his was appx. 4yrs before Legacy.
> My set up is much simpler, It may have some draw backs? but With Simple,
> Others can pick up from where I left off. (modifying and or making there
> own parts.)  If its to complex no one will ever try to understand and make
> it. The main focus point is the learn and grow.
> Here are some of his old photo's and a link to this topic.
>  Joe Gassen  made a X8 gear set.
>
>
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/legacy-ornamental-mills/$20gear$20set$2F$20joe$20gassen/legacy-ornamental-mills/NRI4-q17xz8/RIIWbhMU078J>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/legacy-ornamental-mills/$20gear$20set$2F$20joe$20gassen/legacy-ornamental-mills/NRI4-q17xz8/RIIWbhMU078J
>
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 10:18:36 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> good stuff, Curt. Look forward to you testing it and seeing some results
> too.
> Very innovative. You just need to figure out how to add another small gear
> to make it directional.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 9:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> Just finished off the New X-4 gear set. (to be fully honest with you all,
> Its just a re-make of my old X,2,3,4, gear set.)
> The idea was to use the Legacy gears that I own to reduce the gears
> movement/ speeding the pitch up.
> This gear set, goes in the placement of the directional gears. This gear
> set can be added to any of the other Legacy gear sets.
>
> And example if I use the standard gear set, so it was to make a 3" pitch,
> If I add this X-4 to the linkage, I would then make a 12" pitch.
>
> The key is making a gear linkage with a 5/16" square and a set of ball-
> bearings to hold the shaft. then I used my 96 tooth gear ("A" gear)
> and a 24 tooth gear. ("F" gear ???)(I think? I have 2 but they may be a
> custom made gear? I did have a number odd sized gears made some yrs. back.)
> I have not yet fully tested this gear set, Yet. (but hope to do my testing
> tomorrow.)
> The photo's show the gear set piece by piece. First the frame with shaft
> and ball bearing sets. second the gears stacked on the shaft.
> and third the full assembly.  and lastly the gear chart.
>
> I hope this helps everyone understand the process, and how it was made.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: New X-4 gear set.

[Tim Ziegler]

good stuff, Curt. Look forward to you testing it and seeing some results
too.
Very innovative. You just need to figure out how to add another small gear
to make it directional.
Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 9:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
> Just finished off the New X-4 gear set. (to be fully honest with you all,
> Its just a re-make of my old X,2,3,4, gear set.)
> The idea was to use the Legacy gears that I own to reduce the gears
> movement/ speeding the pitch up.
> This gear set, goes in the placement of the directional gears. This gear
> set can be added to any of the other Legacy gear sets.
>
> And example if I use the standard gear set, so it was to make a 3" pitch,
> If I add this X-4 to the linkage, I would then make a 12" pitch.
>
> The key is making a gear linkage with a 5/16" square and a set of ball-
> bearings to hold the shaft. then I used my 96 tooth gear ("A" gear)
> and a 24 tooth gear. ("F" gear ???)(I think? I have 2 but they may be a
> custom made gear? I did have a number odd sized gears made some yrs. back.)
> I have not yet fully tested this gear set, Yet. (but hope to do my testing
> tomorrow.)
> The photo's show the gear set piece by piece. First the frame with shaft
> and ball bearing sets. second the gears stacked on the shaft.
> and third the full assembly.  and lastly the gear chart.
>
> I hope this helps everyone understand the process, and how it was made.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: interesting spiral jig

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah pretty interesting isn't it Bill. I was just impressed how
everything just worked. lol.

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On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 7:14 PM  wrote:

> I had seen that video you posted Tim it is really good I think I have a
> copy of it somewhere
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2024 11:54 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: interesting spiral jig
>
>
>
> He is really impressive. I will have to watch that one Curt. I sure
> enjoyed this one I posted though.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024, 7:24 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Guys!
>
>
>
> I like this guy, have you seen this video that he made 4 months ago?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJh6uIpDQ8o  His jigs and use of
>
> his equipment is impressive.
>
>
>
> Enjoy.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 06:50:01 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes the little Fur Baby is cute. I thought that was neat how he  had him
> in there.
>
> thanks for commenting Bill.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 3:13 AM  wrote:
>
> Yes your right nice kitten lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2024 1:27 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* interesting spiral jig
>
>
>
> Thought I would share this as I am running a long run on the laser tonight
>
> I found this You-Tube rather interesting.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNuG76e7stU
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

wish I would have lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 7:28 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> this Overhead router. price was lowered to $150.00 (with out the router.)
> And its no longer on Market place
> web site. So I must assume that it was sold.
> I hope one of your guys bought it?
> Anyhow, its not history for us. ;-)
>
> take care everyone.
> and have a Great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 07:01:44 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Wow that makes for a different life style for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> Every where in Australia is 4 hours plus away 8 or 10 hours one way is
> common we have like 8 states where you have like 50
>
> And our land masses are about the same so places are farther away for us
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 5:29 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Thats all day drive for this ol boy.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:57 AM  wrote:
>
> 770.5 miles that only down the road for us in Australia
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 11:47 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> wow it's only a 770.5 mile drive and 11.23 hours I could be there. All in
> a day's fun right.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> If you are going to buy it Tim.  You can stop on by to see me afterwards.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 06:44:40 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> It's the drive that holds me back. Though we have driven further.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Come on Bill,   All your friends are in the same boat you are in.  BROKE!
> (or Cheapskates)  Except me, I'm just frugal.(with a wife, 2 kids, and 2
> dogs, and living on a single income household.) ;-p
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 10:49:13 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Come on guys if I cant get it at least one of my friends can
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Part of me wants it but...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Back in the day I be

Re: interesting spiral jig

[Tim Ziegler]

He is really impressive. I will have to watch that one Curt. I sure enjoyed
this one I posted though.


On Fri, Apr 5, 2024, 7:24 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Guys!
>
> I like this guy, have you seen this video that he made 4 months ago?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJh6uIpDQ8o  His jigs and use of
> his equipment is impressive.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 06:50:01 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes the little Fur Baby is cute. I thought that was neat how he  had him
> in there.
> thanks for commenting Bill.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 3:13 AM  wrote:
>
> Yes your right nice kitten lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2024 1:27 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* interesting spiral jig
>
>
>
> Thought I would share this as I am running a long run on the laser tonight
>
> I found this You-Tube rather interesting.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNuG76e7stU
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: interesting spiral jig

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes the little Fur Baby is cute. I thought that was neat how he  had him in
there.
thanks for commenting Bill.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 3:13 AM  wrote:

> Yes your right nice kitten lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2024 1:27 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* interesting spiral jig
>
>
>
> Thought I would share this as I am running a long run on the laser tonight
>
> I found this You-Tube rather interesting.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNuG76e7stU
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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interesting spiral jig

[Tim Ziegler]

Thought I would share this as I am running a long run on the laser tonight
I found this You-Tube rather interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNuG76e7stU

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell

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Re: REVO small parts storage

[Tim Ziegler]

yeah you did a great job Dan.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 8:52 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> The drawers are about 1 1/2" deep, 3-4" wide and 6" deep.  The handles
> are French cleats glued to the front.  It's memory test to remember
> where I put what.
> DanK
>
> On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 10:53:20 AM UTC-4 Ccm Ccm wrote:
>
>> Very nice
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys.
>>> Haven't melted or drowned in the heavy rains so far!
>>>
>>> Here is the finished small part storage for the REVO that I started a
>>> LONG time ago it seems.  25 drawers is a LOT of tedium for a shiny squirrel
>>> guy like me.  All cherry from the same board, plywood bottoms.  Hung on
>>> French cleat. REVO cut all the box joints.  Now it's a matter of "sorting
>>> potatoes". Deft lacquer finish.
>>> [image: REVOSmallParts.PNG]
>>> DanK
>>>
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Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow that makes for a different life style for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:

> Every where in Australia is 4 hours plus away 8 or 10 hours one way is
> common we have like 8 states where you have like 50
>
> And our land masses are about the same so places are farther away for us
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 5:29 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Thats all day drive for this ol boy.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:57 AM  wrote:
>
> 770.5 miles that only down the road for us in Australia
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 11:47 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> wow it's only a 770.5 mile drive and 11.23 hours I could be there. All in
> a day's fun right.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> If you are going to buy it Tim.  You can stop on by to see me afterwards.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 06:44:40 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> It's the drive that holds me back. Though we have driven further.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Come on Bill,   All your friends are in the same boat you are in.  BROKE!
> (or Cheapskates)  Except me, I'm just frugal.(with a wife, 2 kids, and 2
> dogs, and living on a single income household.) ;-p
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 10:49:13 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Come on guys if I cant get it at least one of my friends can
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Part of me wants it but...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental

Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah it might be almost as cheap. I would use my company.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:34 AM  wrote:

> Perhaps shipping it to you would be an option
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 9:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> It's the drive that holds me back. Though we have driven further.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Come on Bill,   All your friends are in the same boat you are in.  BROKE!
> (or Cheapskates)  Except me, I'm just frugal.(with a wife, 2 kids, and 2
> dogs, and living on a single income household.) ;-p
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 10:49:13 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Come on guys if I cant get it at least one of my friends can
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Part of me wants it but...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Hey Nice find. Yes first one I have seen too in all the looking i've done.
>
> Really wonder where they all are?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> This is the first Legacy "Overhead " router system that I've seen Out side
> there old catalogs.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401578295940402/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>
>
>
> $350.00  Metamora, MI
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/107667369255994/>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

Thats all day drive for this ol boy.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:57 AM  wrote:

> 770.5 miles that only down the road for us in Australia
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 11:47 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> wow it's only a 770.5 mile drive and 11.23 hours I could be there. All in
> a day's fun right.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> If you are going to buy it Tim.  You can stop on by to see me afterwards.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 06:44:40 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> It's the drive that holds me back. Though we have driven further.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Come on Bill,   All your friends are in the same boat you are in.  BROKE!
> (or Cheapskates)  Except me, I'm just frugal.(with a wife, 2 kids, and 2
> dogs, and living on a single income household.) ;-p
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 10:49:13 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Come on guys if I cant get it at least one of my friends can
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Part of me wants it but...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Hey Nice find. Yes first one I have seen too in all the looking i've done.
>
> Really wonder where they all are?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> This is the first Legacy "Overhead " router system that I've seen Out side
> there old catalogs.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401578295940402/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>
>
>
> $350.00  Metamora, MI
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/107

Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

wow it's only a 770.5 mile drive and 11.23 hours I could be there. All in a
day's fun right.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> If you are going to buy it Tim.  You can stop on by to see me afterwards.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 06:44:40 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It's the drive that holds me back. Though we have driven further.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Come on Bill,   All your friends are in the same boat you are in.  BROKE!
> (or Cheapskates)  Except me, I'm just frugal.(with a wife, 2 kids, and 2
> dogs, and living on a single income household.) ;-p
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 10:49:13 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Come on guys if I cant get it at least one of my friends can
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Part of me wants it but...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Hey Nice find. Yes first one I have seen too in all the looking i've done.
>
> Really wonder where they all are?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> This is the first Legacy "Overhead " router system that I've seen Out side
> there old catalogs.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401578295940402/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>
>
>
> $350.00  Metamora, MI
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/107667369255994/>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

oh for sure.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> If you are going to buy it Tim.  You can stop on by to see me afterwards.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 06:44:40 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It's the drive that holds me back. Though we have driven further.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Come on Bill,   All your friends are in the same boat you are in.  BROKE!
> (or Cheapskates)  Except me, I'm just frugal.(with a wife, 2 kids, and 2
> dogs, and living on a single income household.) ;-p
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 10:49:13 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Come on guys if I cant get it at least one of my friends can
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Part of me wants it but...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Hey Nice find. Yes first one I have seen too in all the looking i've done.
>
> Really wonder where they all are?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> This is the first Legacy "Overhead " router system that I've seen Out side
> there old catalogs.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401578295940402/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>
>
>
> $350.00  Metamora, MI
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/107667369255994/>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

It's the drive that holds me back. Though we have driven further.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Come on Bill,   All your friends are in the same boat you are in.  BROKE!
> (or Cheapskates)  Except me, I'm just frugal.(with a wife, 2 kids, and 2
> dogs, and living on a single income household.) ;-p
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 10:49:13 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Come on guys if I cant get it at least one of my friends can
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Part of me wants it but...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Hey Nice find. Yes first one I have seen too in all the looking i've done.
>
> Really wonder where they all are?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> This is the first Legacy "Overhead " router system that I've seen Out side
> there old catalogs.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401578295940402/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>
>
>
> $350.00  Metamora, MI
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/107667369255994/>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

compilation

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:49 PM  wrote:

> Come on guys if I cant get it at least one of my friends can
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 1:06 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Part of me wants it but...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Hey Nice find. Yes first one I have seen too in all the looking i've done.
>
> Really wonder where they all are?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> This is the first Legacy "Overhead " router system that I've seen Out side
> there old catalogs.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401578295940402/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>
>
>
> $350.00  Metamora, MI
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/107667369255994/>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

right?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:57 PM  wrote:

> If it wasn’t for the Dam shipping which is getting higher and higher and
> higher every day these days it already would be on its way to me 
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2024 12:52 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> I think you are right.
>
>
>
> But I don't have the space to put it anywhere in my shop.
>
> Its a fair/low price. I just cant do it. ;-(
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 09:42:13 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Hey Nice find. Yes first one I have seen too in all the looking i've done.
>
> Really wonder where they all are?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> This is the first Legacy "Overhead " router system that I've seen Out side
> there old catalogs.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401578295940402/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>
>
>
> $350.00  Metamora, MI
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/107667369255994/>
>
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen

[Tim Ziegler]

Part of me wants it but...
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:42 PM  wrote:

> Back in the day I believe it was 2 items the table and the router so your
> getting 2 for one price and you will never see another for sale
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 11:57 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Yeah seems like a reasonable price.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Grab it Tim I would
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: This is the first Legacy router "Overhead" that Ive seen
>
>
>
> Hey Nice find. Yes first one I have seen too in all the looking i've done.
>
> Really wonder where they all are?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> This is the first Legacy "Overhead " router system that I've seen Out side
> there old catalogs.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/401578295940402/?ref=browse_tab_code=marketplace_top_picks_story_type=top_picks
>
>
>
> $350.00  Metamora, MI
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/107667369255994/>
>
> [image: Inline image]
> [image: Inline image]
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
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Re: Legacy 1000 for sale in TX

[Tim Ziegler]

I could not open it either.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 4:52 PM  wrote:

> Unfortunately I cant see it can someone post a pic for me
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2024 8:40 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy 1000 for sale in TX
>
>
>
> This looks reasonable for what it is
>
> Legacy 1000
> 
>
> DanK
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Re: Roger's new work of Art

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks for sharing Roger

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 7:28 AM Ccm Ccm  wrote:

>
> Thanks for all the kind comments everyone
> The  table is mesquite, the dark accent
> Wood is texas ebony, I milled all the wood from the logs to the finished
> Product
> It's 52 inches in diameter
> You can comfortably seat 6 people around it
> Thanks again everyone
>
> On Saturday, March 30, 2024, M.W.Foscue  wrot
>
>> Roger,
>>
>>
>>
>> Like others have already expresed - you are a "Master of the Woods"!
>>
>> Your table is absolutely STUNNING!
>>
>>
>>
>> Will you fill us in with some info about it?
>>
>> Like:
>>
>> How long did this take to make?
>>
>> What are the various woods we see used in it?
>>
>> What are the dimensions?
>>
>> Lastly - what were the easiest; and the most challenging - parts of its
>> creation?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for sharing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy Easter!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Mar 30, 2024 1:26 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: Roger's new work of Art
>>
>>
>>
>> Holy crap simply beautiful amazing work Roger
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 30, 2024 2:22 PM
>> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
>> *Subject:* Roger's new work of Art
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Roger (Ccm Ccm) made these table, He told me that he could not get the
>> pix. size down enough to share with the Group.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this is a breath taking work of Art. and I feel everyone in the
>> group. should see it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good job Roger!
>>
>> C.A.G.
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Re: Roger's new work of Art

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes Roger is a true master craftsman. His work reflects his work ethic,
craftsmanship, and integrity He puts into each
piece he does.
Beautiful Table Roger, the inlay and detail is beyond fabulous.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 10:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Roger (Ccm Ccm) made these table, He told me that he could not get the
> pix. size down enough to share with the Group.
>
> I think this is a breath taking work of Art. and I feel everyone in the
> group. should see it.
>
> Good job Roger!
> C.A.G.
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Re: New bones and newest project.

[Tim Ziegler]

Nice looking handle Curt.
Looks like you've been busy for sure.

Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 7:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Everyone.
>
> This weekend I finished cutting out some new bone disks. This batch is now
> soaking in Hydrogen Peroxide. (Note the jar, that was a mistake, but one
> that I like.) ;-)
>
> I also got some time to turn a new handle for my collection.
>
> Please let me know what you think? ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Place is dead. Some local action

[Tim Ziegler]

I'm looking to see yours too Dan???

Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 9:20 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> That's just dope!  Looks like soft serve ice cream!
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 10:12:35 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Very intriguing Bill,
>> It would be something I may be interested in making at some point.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 4:30 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Here are a few more pics of balls off my ball cutting mod I made
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2024 2:07 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Place is dead. Some local action
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keep on thinking like that Dan.   I LIKE IT! ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if you noticed on Bills ball attachment. he latter made a
>>> pulley assembly
>>>
>>> So the Legacy's router carriage, would/could move the attachment in sync
>>> with the  gears.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 10:56:09 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com <
>>> cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh look at the shiny object!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, that got juices flowing.  Suppose that router was swinging over the
>>>
>>> rotary table captive to a link to the frame. Hemispheres could be
>>>
>>> decorated interestingly.  Then glue two of them together for a sphere?
>>>
>>> H
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 10:40:25 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that router jig on LOM is almost pure genius.  And deceptively
>>> simple!
>>>
>>> He has it set to rock the router back and forth by hand.  What if it
>>> were linked
>>>
>>> to the frame which could use the lead screw to "rock" it back and forth?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, my apple stir stick (aka spurtle) was turned on the lathe and
>>> sphere
>>>
>>> approximated by eye and paper template.  The rest was REVO work with
>>>
>>> six starts on a 7/8" dia shaft using a 1" rope cutter at 1/8" deep.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My ball turning jig will first attempt use a stationary cutter in a tool
>>> post.
>>>
>>> But I have the means to adapt a router holder from my lathe copier
>>> template
>>>
>>> follower setup.
>>>
>>>  DanK
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 9:24:25 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Were getting some cooler days now a chance to get some well over due
>>> yard work done for me and hopefully perhaps a little shop clean up
>>>
>>> to finally get some space to get a project or 2 started in my shop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2024 10:48 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Place is dead. Some local action
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes that todo list never stops growing does it.
>>>
>>> We are preparing for a large snow storm here so I may be snow bound for
>>> a day or two and that just might
>>>
>>> give me some free time to play lol. Or plow snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Zieg

Re: Legacy 1200 for sale w extras west coast

[Tim Ziegler]

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 11:34 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Maybe you have to be part of the group to view it?  I hope not.
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 12:32:15 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Here is a Legacy 1200
>> for
>> sale in CA.  Glad it's far away for me.
>>
>> DanK
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Re: Legacy 1200 for sale w extras west coast

[Tim Ziegler]

yup to far for me too.
I have enough for awhile anyway lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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Foreston MN 56330

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On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 11:32 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
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> Here is a Legacy 1200
> for
> sale in CA.  Glad it's far away for me.
>
> DanK
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Re: Place is dead. Some local action

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes for sure. And when we put so many creative minds together we can
conquer the world.

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 9:56 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Oh look at the shiny object!
>
> OK, that got juices flowing.  Suppose that router was swinging over the
> rotary table captive to a link to the frame. Hemispheres could be
> decorated interestingly.  Then glue two of them together for a sphere?
> H
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 10:40:25 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Now that router jig on LOM is almost pure genius.  And deceptively simple!
>> He has it set to rock the router back and forth by hand.  What if it were
>> linked
>> to the frame which could use the lead screw to "rock" it back and forth?
>>
>> Yes, my apple stir stick (aka spurtle) was turned on the lathe and sphere
>> approximated by eye and paper template.  The rest was REVO work with
>> six starts on a 7/8" dia shaft using a 1" rope cutter at 1/8" deep.
>>
>> My ball turning jig will first attempt use a stationary cutter in a tool
>> post.
>> But I have the means to adapt a router holder from my lathe copier
>> template
>> follower setup.
>>  DanK
>> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 9:24:25 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Were getting some cooler days now a chance to get some well over due
>>> yard work done for me and hopefully perhaps a little shop clean up
>>>
>>> to finally get some space to get a project or 2 started in my shop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2024 10:48 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Place is dead. Some local action
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes that todo list never stops growing does it.
>>>
>>> We are preparing for a large snow storm here so I may be snow bound for
>>> a day or two and that just might
>>>
>>> give me some free time to play lol. Or plow snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 6:39 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes it is I was toying with fitting it to my revo and changing out the
>>> cutting tool and replacing it with a router another project on my extremely
>>> long list of things to do
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2024 10:26 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Place is dead. Some local action
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's a nice stoutly built jig for sure. I was looking at the Carter
>>> originally.
>>>
>>> That was the only one I really ever saw.
>>>
>>> I like the way your's is built, Bill. It truly looks like it would offer
>>> minimal vibration for sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 6:12 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sphere turning jig for a wood lathe this is the best one I have found
>>> https://www.vermec.com/store/p27/Vermec_Sphere_Jig.html
>>>
>>> It is what I have
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2024 10:03 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>&g

Re: Place is dead. Some local action

[Tim Ziegler]

Very interesting for for sure.


On Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 9:40 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Now that router jig on LOM is almost pure genius.  And deceptively simple!
> He has it set to rock the router back and forth by hand.  What if it were
> linked
> to the frame which could use the lead screw to "rock" it back and forth?
>
> Yes, my apple stir stick (aka spurtle) was turned on the lathe and sphere
> approximated by eye and paper template.  The rest was REVO work with
> six starts on a 7/8" dia shaft using a 1" rope cutter at 1/8" deep.
>
> My ball turning jig will first attempt use a stationary cutter in a tool
> post.
> But I have the means to adapt a router holder from my lathe copier template
> follower setup.
>  DanK
> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 9:24:25 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
>> Were getting some cooler days now a chance to get some well over due yard
>> work done for me and hopefully perhaps a little shop clean up
>>
>> to finally get some space to get a project or 2 started in my shop.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2024 10:48 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Place is dead. Some local action
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes that todo list never stops growing does it.
>>
>> We are preparing for a large snow storm here so I may be snow bound for a
>> day or two and that just might
>>
>> give me some free time to play lol. Or plow snow...
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 6:39 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Yes it is I was toying with fitting it to my revo and changing out the
>> cutting tool and replacing it with a router another project on my extremely
>> long list of things to do
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2024 10:26 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Place is dead. Some local action
>>
>>
>>
>> That's a nice stoutly built jig for sure. I was looking at the Carter
>> originally.
>>
>> That was the only one I really ever saw.
>>
>> I like the way your's is built, Bill. It truly looks like it would offer
>> minimal vibration for sure.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 6:12 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Sphere turning jig for a wood lathe this is the best one I have found
>> https://www.vermec.com/store/p27/Vermec_Sphere_Jig.html
>>
>> It is what I have
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2024 10:03 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Place is dead. Some local action
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Dan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Very cool. Yeah the ball turning I think fascinates all of us but some
>> like you pursue and win.
>>
>> I am going to get a ball (sphere) turning apparatus at some point or make
>> one. Odds of purchase are higher lol.
>>
>> That is a very cool stick you turned and I am very impressed.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing too. Are you going to share your design or sell them
>> to others ?
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-63

Re: Place is dead. Some local action

[Tim Ziegler]

thats good information to know too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:08 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Very nice, you can usually get some pretty good curl in most trees if you
> get the outer layers from under a large limb.  The weight crumples new
> groth.  Nice flim-da-notch-it!
>
> Mike OK
> On 3/22/2024 10:42 PM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Still working on ball turner jig and progress is being made.  Had to hire
> machining help to cut a piece too big for me to cut.
> But while letting those progress items simmer, I added to my utensil
> supply with this experiment.  Turned out better than I was hoping.  See why
> I want a ball turner?  This is from a piece of apple tree that is mostly
> sap wood.  The interesting part is how much figure is in the sap wood that
> cannot be photographed!
> [image: Spurtle.PNG]
> DanK
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Re: Not Legacy, but could be made for your LOM pretty easily!

[Tim Ziegler]

yes very interesting and looks like a very simple to use. I have some side
clamps to, that work similar
but have the same concept for clamping as the tail stock clamping.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 4:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzWdm87_J9o
>
> Hello there. Another Russian video. (so either switch the translator on
> You tube on and read what he is saying, Or...)   I like to just watch and
> see what is being done.
>
> these clamps are AWESOME!
>
> I hope you all enjoy it as much as I do.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Mar bone turning 1

[Tim Ziegler]

Very cool though Curt, job well done as always.

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On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 5:39 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello again everyone.
>
> Just got done with a sec Mar Bone turning this month.
> This one uses a different template, I did an 8 start rope, cutting .0325
> depth of cut and a 1/4" spacing between cuts.
> As you can see, the template is just a rough shape, not a very fine job,
> (an angle grinder and a few files is all it is.) The templates job is to
> only get me to the general shape of the spindle I choose to make, the
> details are added to the turning by eye (file or lathe chisel ,or sanding.)
> and, the Legacy.
>
> Lots of fun! ;-)
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 09:53:10 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com <
> cdkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, Curt, one does get better with experience!  Those are nice looking
> handles and I'm glad you enjoy doing them.
> Ken, you and I were born the same year and it's still fun doing this stuff.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 9:39:24 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Hey Guys.
> Thank you both, Peter and Ken.
>
> Ken the real trick is to "Never" Stop. ( Keep the mind active, That's what
> is important.)
>
> Have a Great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 07:06:11 AM EDT, Ken and Diana <
> mman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Curt George
>   I have a Legacy 900 that I am slowly getting enough pieces for it,
>   I wii be 80 years young this year so a little slow moving ,still
> enjoying woodworking and
> seeing the results of others' work
>  Ken.
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 9:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey there Ken!
>
> Thank you for the kind words. ;-)
>
> I am really enjoying myself, with these projects.
> By using the template follower on my Legacy, really makes things much
> easer,
> for me. but even with out, Having the ability of adding details like
> roping, fluting,
> and using the wave attachment, Makes the Legacy a very special tool. It
> gave me a
> LOT .  That I was missing (skill wise.), before I bought my Legacy
> Ornamental Mill.
>
> I tell everyone, to PLAY with your machine as much as you can, before you
> try to make
> anything serious.
> Honestly, With these bone turnings that I have been doing, I can see an
> improvement in my
> skills, as well quality of my work, over the last few years that I have
> been doing this.
> I am getting better! and every time I learn something new, it again
> becomes "Play time" for me.
>
> For me , LIFE IS to serious, Life weirs me down.  I need to escape every
> so often, and this toy/tool/LOM
> is my escape form reality. ;-)
> Here are are few of my first handles, and some of the newer one of today.
> enjoy.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 07:28:46 PM EDT, Ken and Diana <
> mman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> very nice work I am enjoying seeing the end product.
> Ken
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 5:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just made and used both a new template and used it on a bone glue up. To
> make this handle.
>
> I used the standard gear set, cutting a 2" pitch, 4 starts, (1/2" spacing)
> using my set-up blocks, then cleaned up some details and sanded on the Shop
> Smith. Then I buffed it with white jeweler's rouge.
> Over all I am very happy with both the template and my newest bone turning.
> If anyone is interested, I can go into more details on both the bone
> turning as well as how I have been making my newest Stainless steel
> templates.  (NOTE: Warning I made 6 new templates this week. IT can be
> habit forming, and a lot of fun.) ;-)
>
> talk to you all more latter.
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Mar bone turning 1

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes and we are honored to have you guys with us in the LOM world too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 8:53 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Yes, Curt, one does get better with experience!  Those are nice looking
> handles and I'm glad you enjoy doing them.
> Ken, you and I were born the same year and it's still fun doing this stuff.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 9:39:24 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Hey Guys.
>> Thank you both, Peter and Ken.
>>
>> Ken the real trick is to "Never" Stop. ( Keep the mind active, That's
>> what is important.)
>>
>> Have a Great day.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 07:06:11 AM EDT, Ken and Diana <
>> mman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Curt George
>>   I have a Legacy 900 that I am slowly getting enough pieces for it,
>>   I wii be 80 years young this year so a little slow moving ,still
>> enjoying woodworking and
>> seeing the results of others' work
>>  Ken.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 9:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hey there Ken!
>>
>> Thank you for the kind words. ;-)
>>
>> I am really enjoying myself, with these projects.
>> By using the template follower on my Legacy, really makes things much
>> easer,
>> for me. but even with out, Having the ability of adding details like
>> roping, fluting,
>> and using the wave attachment, Makes the Legacy a very special tool. It
>> gave me a
>> LOT .  That I was missing (skill wise.), before I bought my Legacy
>> Ornamental Mill.
>>
>> I tell everyone, to PLAY with your machine as much as you can, before you
>> try to make
>> anything serious.
>> Honestly, With these bone turnings that I have been doing, I can see an
>> improvement in my
>> skills, as well quality of my work, over the last few years that I have
>> been doing this.
>> I am getting better! and every time I learn something new, it again
>> becomes "Play time" for me.
>>
>> For me , LIFE IS to serious, Life weirs me down.  I need to escape every
>> so often, and this toy/tool/LOM
>> is my escape form reality. ;-)
>> Here are are few of my first handles, and some of the newer one of today.
>> enjoy.
>>
>> Have a good night.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 07:28:46 PM EDT, Ken and Diana <
>> mman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> very nice work I am enjoying seeing the end product.
>> Ken
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 5:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> Just made and used both a new template and used it on a bone glue up. To
>> make this handle.
>>
>> I used the standard gear set, cutting a 2" pitch, 4 starts, (1/2"
>> spacing) using my set-up blocks, then cleaned up some details and sanded on
>> the Shop Smith. Then I buffed it with white jeweler's rouge.
>> Over all I am very happy with both the template and my newest bone
>> turning.
>> If anyone is interested, I can go into more details on both the bone
>> turning as well as how I have been making my newest Stainless steel
>> templates.  (NOTE: Warning I made 6 new templates this week. IT can be
>> habit forming, and a lot of fun.) ;-)
>>
>> talk to you all more latter.
>> Have a good day.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
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Re: Mar bone turning 1

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Ken what do you all need for your 900?
PM me, maybe I can help.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 6:06 AM Ken and Diana  wrote:

> Curt George
>   I have a Legacy 900 that I am slowly getting enough pieces for it,
>   I wii be 80 years young this year so a little slow moving ,still
> enjoying woodworking and
> seeing the results of others' work
>  Ken.
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 9:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey there Ken!
>>
>> Thank you for the kind words. ;-)
>>
>> I am really enjoying myself, with these projects.
>> By using the template follower on my Legacy, really makes things much
>> easer,
>> for me. but even with out, Having the ability of adding details like
>> roping, fluting,
>> and using the wave attachment, Makes the Legacy a very special tool. It
>> gave me a
>> LOT .  That I was missing (skill wise.), before I bought my Legacy
>> Ornamental Mill.
>>
>> I tell everyone, to PLAY with your machine as much as you can, before you
>> try to make
>> anything serious.
>> Honestly, With these bone turnings that I have been doing, I can see an
>> improvement in my
>> skills, as well quality of my work, over the last few years that I have
>> been doing this.
>> I am getting better! and every time I learn something new, it again
>> becomes "Play time" for me.
>>
>> For me , LIFE IS to serious, Life weirs me down.  I need to escape every
>> so often, and this toy/tool/LOM
>> is my escape form reality. ;-)
>> Here are are few of my first handles, and some of the newer one of today.
>> enjoy.
>>
>> Have a good night.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 07:28:46 PM EDT, Ken and Diana <
>> mman7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> very nice work I am enjoying seeing the end product.
>> Ken
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 5:57 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> Just made and used both a new template and used it on a bone glue up. To
>> make this handle.
>>
>> I used the standard gear set, cutting a 2" pitch, 4 starts, (1/2"
>> spacing) using my set-up blocks, then cleaned up some details and sanded on
>> the Shop Smith. Then I buffed it with white jeweler's rouge.
>> Over all I am very happy with both the template and my newest bone
>> turning.
>> If anyone is interested, I can go into more details on both the bone
>> turning as well as how I have been making my newest Stainless steel
>> templates.  (NOTE: Warning I made 6 new templates this week. IT can be
>> habit forming, and a lot of fun.) ;-)
>>
>> talk to you all more latter.
>> Have a good day.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> [image: Inline image]
>>
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Re: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate SUBJECT line.

[Tim Ziegler]

That sounds really good Rick.
I used to look at all the lifts like that and some day may still get one.
Actually would rather automate one of the LOM's lol.
I do have a large Delta Shaper too that I use in my business.
So everything I do is not on a router table.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 2:37 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:

> A little more detail on my router setup….
>
> As I say below, I bought the Incra LS Positioner / Wonderfence system -
> this allows me to, very accurately set the back & forth depth of the fence
> and quickly/easily/accurately repeat those settings.
>
> I then bought the MLCS Powerlifting Pro digitally controlled router lift
> along with a Bora 3.5 Hp variable speed motor. This uses Bluetooth to
> connect to my Android tablet. This setup allows me to very accurately to
> set and repeat the height of the router bit. For example, to raise the
> router so I can insert/remove the router bit. Then set the zero height
> level, and finally, to set a series of heights for routing.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 12:34, Rick Hutley  wrote:
>
> 
> I have the Incra LS Positioner/ Wonderfence router table system and I
> added a computer controlled power lift. It’s a very sophisticated system
> and highly accurate, so easy to repeat cuts etc. However, there’s a steep
> learning curve and it takes quite a bit of practice to get used the way it
> works - but that’s true of most tools. I am very impressed with the Incra
> system.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 12:00, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Good morning,
>
> In regard to both of these jigs I was truly amazed at what the jigs could
> do too given the demonstrator
> had hours and hours of practice and sure made it sould and look very easy.
> I have not purchased either of these jigs but again was alway impressed. I
> have watched market place for
> used ones but am not really into that sorta of jig in the used form but it
> the right opportunity came along
> maybe.
> I have a few of the Incra jigs like the "I Box", the Hinge making jig and
> most recent like 2 years ago I bought
> their Router lift. Very well made but I think Jessem actually makes them
> for Incra.
> So no experience with Jointech, just some drooling in the years past.
> And some experience with Incra but not their dovetailing equipment. I have
> the large 24 inch Omni Jig for that.
> Not much else on the subject Mac and  David. Sorry Both companies seemed
> equal though?
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:25 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> For: David Mann,
>>
>> (and other who have opinions regarding the former Jointech
>> Jigs/accessories vs the Incra Jigs/accessories)
>>
>>
>>
>> Since The Group board has been somewhat quiet, I figured I'd throw this
>> one out again for discussion - since most all of have either a table saw, a
>> router table, or both.  I thought it would make for interesting sharing of
>> thoughts and experiences.  It is a REAL shame that JoinTech went out of
>> business - and that put a damper on competition as well as
>> ingenuity/inventiveness.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your thoughts, experiences, etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> -Forwarded Message-
>> From: M.W.Foscue 
>> Sent: May 3, 2022 3:11 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate
>> SUBJECT line.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>>
>>
>> When talking about an Incra Fence and Joinery Package, I saw where you
>> said: "a real upgrade from the old jointech setup I had".
>>
>> I remember watching both Jointech and Incra folks demonstrating their
>> products at The Woodworking Shows.
>>
>> They both seemed "better than sliced bread" - equally yoked.
>>
>>
>>
>> My question: What is significantly better about the Incra - vs the
>> Jointech? (Other than fact that Jointech went belly up!)
>>
>>
>>
>> (There may be others on here that can chime in with their experiences -
>> so please do if that applies.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your inputs here - hopefully "educational" for all of us.
>&

Re: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate SUBJECT line.

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks David,

Will be praying for continued health and strength for you.
Perhaps you can find some tools in your new place or a rental shop
where you can go and still putz around.
Wishing you the best.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 11:39 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks David.  ( I did not know, but am glad to hear you are well now.)
>
> I wish you luck on your ventures. Please stay in touch.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:27:51 PM EST, 'David Mann' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hello Mac and friends,
>
> Sorry for the delayed response, I’m not on the internet and checking my
> emails as often as I used to.
> When I set up my shop, the first table saw I had was a stand alone
> shopsmith model, sawsmith 200 pro with the extension rails. Then I found a
> brand new in the box Jointech cabinet maker model on eBay and I was beside
> myself, because I had heard so much about them. I built a nice router table
> to join up with the sawsmith and used it for years. Loved it actually. When
> I upgraded to a sliding table saw I kept the router table jointech setup, I
> used to clamp it to my work table whenever I needed to use it. I’ll try and
> locate some old pictures.
> The jointech and incra systems both function nearly identical. The upgrade
> is really more that incra is far better for dust collection and their
> accessories, which I don’t think jointech was ever in that market. The
> incra router lift plate is a back saver after having to make all my bit
> adjustments from under the table. I’ll post some pictures of the new setup
> soon. I was actually out at the shop today for the first time in a long
> while.
> On a personal note, my wife and I are selling our place here in Texas and
> relocating to Vermont very soon. Some of you know I had an heart attack in
> 2022….. I’ve also sold my woodworking equipment to a friend of mine who let
> me set up shop on his property 5 years ago. I’m going to tell him about
> this group because there’s more information here than I can give him. I’m
> spending time out there doing a few small projects with him. If a new
> member named Stephen Barclay shows up, you’ll know who he is!
>
>
> David Mann
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 8:52 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Great input Rick,
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 6:34 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:
>
> I have the Incra LS Positioner/ Wonderfence router table system and I
> added a computer controlled power lift. It’s a very sophisticated system
> and highly accurate, so easy to repeat cuts etc. However, there’s a steep
> learning curve and it takes quite a bit of practice to get used the way it
> works - but that’s true of most tools. I am very impressed with the Incra
> system.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 12:00, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Good morning,
>
> In regard to both of these jigs I was truly amazed at what the jigs could
> do too given the demonstrator
> had hours and hours of practice and sure made it sould and look very easy.
> I have not purchased either of these jigs but again was alway impressed. I
> have watched market place for
> used ones but am not really into that sorta of jig in the used form but it
> the right opportunity came along
> maybe.
> I have a few of the Incra jigs like the "I Box", the Hinge making jig and
> most recent like 2 years ago I bought
> their Router lift. Very well made but I think Jessem actually makes them
> for Incra.
> So no experience with Jointech, just some drooling in the years past.
> And some experience with Incra but not their dovetailing equipment. I have
> the large 24 inch Omni Jig for that.
> Not much else on the subject Mac and  David. Sorry Both companies seemed
> equal though?
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:25 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> For: David Mann,
>
> (and other who have opinions regarding the former Jointech
> Jigs/accessories vs the Incra Jigs/accessories)
>
>
>
> Since The Group board has been somewhat quiet, I figur

Re: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate SUBJECT line.

[Tim Ziegler]

Great input Rick,

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 6:34 AM Rick Hutley  wrote:

> I have the Incra LS Positioner/ Wonderfence router table system and I
> added a computer controlled power lift. It’s a very sophisticated system
> and highly accurate, so easy to repeat cuts etc. However, there’s a steep
> learning curve and it takes quite a bit of practice to get used the way it
> works - but that’s true of most tools. I am very impressed with the Incra
> system.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 12:00, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Good morning,
>
> In regard to both of these jigs I was truly amazed at what the jigs could
> do too given the demonstrator
> had hours and hours of practice and sure made it sould and look very easy.
> I have not purchased either of these jigs but again was alway impressed. I
> have watched market place for
> used ones but am not really into that sorta of jig in the used form but it
> the right opportunity came along
> maybe.
> I have a few of the Incra jigs like the "I Box", the Hinge making jig and
> most recent like 2 years ago I bought
> their Router lift. Very well made but I think Jessem actually makes them
> for Incra.
> So no experience with Jointech, just some drooling in the years past.
> And some experience with Incra but not their dovetailing equipment. I have
> the large 24 inch Omni Jig for that.
> Not much else on the subject Mac and  David. Sorry Both companies seemed
> equal though?
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:25 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> For: David Mann,
>>
>> (and other who have opinions regarding the former Jointech
>> Jigs/accessories vs the Incra Jigs/accessories)
>>
>>
>>
>> Since The Group board has been somewhat quiet, I figured I'd throw this
>> one out again for discussion - since most all of have either a table saw, a
>> router table, or both.  I thought it would make for interesting sharing of
>> thoughts and experiences.  It is a REAL shame that JoinTech went out of
>> business - and that put a damper on competition as well as
>> ingenuity/inventiveness.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your thoughts, experiences, etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> -Forwarded Message-
>> From: M.W.Foscue 
>> Sent: May 3, 2022 3:11 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Jointech vs Incra? - I changed discussion to new, appropriate
>> SUBJECT line.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>>
>>
>> When talking about an Incra Fence and Joinery Package, I saw where you
>> said: "a real upgrade from the old jointech setup I had".
>>
>> I remember watching both Jointech and Incra folks demonstrating their
>> products at The Woodworking Shows.
>>
>> They both seemed "better than sliced bread" - equally yoked.
>>
>>
>>
>> My question: What is significantly better about the Incra - vs the
>> Jointech? (Other than fact that Jointech went belly up!)
>>
>>
>>
>> (There may be others on here that can chime in with their experiences -
>> so please do if that applies.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your inputs here - hopefully "educational" for all of us.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: May 3, 2022 8:17 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: New post
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tim. I can thank Denison for the old original design paper from
>> legacy he shared with me, and his nephew who made a copy of the templates
>> for me. Going for that country/farm table look that’s popular in my area of
>> Texas. That breakfast bar took 20 days start to finish, but some days I
>> only worked 2-3 hours. Never more than 6. That also included a couple days
>> clean up sawmill lumber.  Probably 65-70 would be a good guess. I had a bad
>> case of Covid and literally didn’t do anything for 6 months, and am easing
>> back into it. I did the dovetail drawers with a new incra fence and joinery
>> package. Took 9 months to deliver, then sat in the boxes for another 9.
>> Very happy with it and a real upgra

Re: Legacy 900 and Woodchuck

[Tim Ziegler]

good luck with that Eric,
I'd try Marketplace if you don't get any bites from the group.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 6:03 PM Eric Gantner 
wrote:

> Good Evening,
>
> Do anyone live near Tampa and interested in a 900 and a Woodchuck? I had a
> few missing parts and bought the woodchuck to complete the 900.  All that I
> am missing is the large gear, Cindy did not have any at the time I bought
> other missing gears.  I going to practically give them away because my
> storage unit is costing more than the tools are worth. I had hoping of
> setting it up in my garage but I just don’t have the space. I will get
> pictures together if someone is interested.  I am not interested in boxing
> it up and shipping it.  Local pickup only.
>
> V/r
> Eric Gantner
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Wave attachment.

[Tim Ziegler]

This is all sounding great, but I need to see this idea in action and
motion.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 3:04 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Now, for the basket weave.
>
> Building on the wave notion but using a Y axis template instead and
> cutting with a pointy side cut bit, following the wavy template would
> result in an interrupted cut (periodic) on the side of a cylinder.  If 12
> starts were done at one template position, then with the template
> moved 1/2 the wave pitch for the next 12 starts on the alternate holes
> of the 24 hole index, the result would be a sort of basket weave.
>
> Holtzapffel, here we come.
>
> DanK
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 3:50:54 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.
>>
>> I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that
>> connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack
>> at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A
>> started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction
>> clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm
>> when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The
>> wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the +
>> wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another
>> variation.
>> DanK
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like
>>> these I did lol, from canes to pens
>>>
>>> Even a wave rosette
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
>>> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Wave attachment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is part II
>>>
>>> These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and
>>> His version working.
>>>
>>> (They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000
>>> times better.) ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181
>>> Bill's version.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
>>> Tim's
>>> version.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and here are some photo's of mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a good day everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello and Good morning everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.
>>>
>>> First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The
>>> Atkinson Reciprocator" [image: Inline image]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>>>
>>>
>>> (the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the
>>> link to see the photo of this article.)
>>>
>>>
>>> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>
>>>
>>> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned
>>> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>>>
>>> *by Tim Krause*
>>> History of the Invention:
>>>
>>> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used
>>> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into
>>> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different
>>> wave patterns can be created.
>>>
>>> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur
>>> for the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version
>>> "The Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the
>>> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for
>>> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of,
>>> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy
>>> Ornamental Mill group.
>>>
>>> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his
>>> own. You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust
>>> than my version.
>>>
>>> The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle
>>> motion to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral
>>> capabilities of the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique
>>> sine wave patterns using modern tools.
>>>
>>> My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment
>>> developed by 

Re: Wave attachment.

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow that sounds pretty cool . Would that stay consistent?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 2:50 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.
>
> I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that
> connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack
> at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A
> started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction
> clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm
> when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The
> wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the +
> wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another
> variation.
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
>> Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like
>> these I did lol, from canes to pens
>>
>> Even a wave rosette
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
>> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Wave attachment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is part II
>>
>> These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and
>> His version working.
>>
>> (They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000
>> times better.) ;-)
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181
>> Bill's version.
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
>> Tim's
>> version.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.
>>
>>
>>
>> and here are some photo's of mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good day everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello and Good morning everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.
>>
>> First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The
>> Atkinson Reciprocator" [image: Inline image]
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.
>>
>>
>> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>>
>>
>> (the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the
>> link to see the photo of this article.)
>>
>>
>> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>>
>> [image: Inline image]
>>
>>
>> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned
>> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>>
>> *by Tim Krause*
>> History of the Invention:
>>
>> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used
>> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into
>> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different
>> wave patterns can be created.
>>
>> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for
>> the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The
>> Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the
>> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for
>> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of,
>> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy
>> Ornamental Mill group.
>>
>> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own.
>> You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my
>> version.
>>
>> The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion
>> to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of
>> the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns
>> using modern tools.
>>
>> My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment
>> developed by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust
>> the amplitude of the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an
>> infinite variety of heights available in the wave.
>> Installation of the TK Reciprocator:
>>
>> Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full
>> time if desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard
>> duplex gear provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are included. The screws
>> are intentionally left long to account for varying thickness of the duplex
>> gear. Do not over tighten the screws. Once the screws are installed, file
>> them flush or slightly under the surface of the bronze bushing to prevent
>> interference with the sliding arm.
>>
>> The spacer and 

Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

[Tim Ziegler]

yes I  agree a video would be good. Exciting stuff for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 11:50 AM  wrote:

> Very interesting stuff curt perhaps a video some day showing it working
> would help to show us
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 2, 2024 4:33 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 5 bone turnings
>
>
>
> Hey Guys!
>
>
>
> Bill I have a way to make this chatter wave 100% every time. but it
> involves another jig to make it work. What I did the first time is supper
> Kool, but Its not easy to get the results prefect every time.
>
> I called this cut a chatter cut, mainly due to that is exactly what is
> happening, the route bit chatters/bounces over the wood as it is cutting.
>
> There are a number of variables that are needed to make the Chatter cut
> work on the Legacy at this time it is not an exact science . (those
> variables are, speed of cut/RPM of the bit, depth of cut from the side/Y
> axis , and  Speed of the motor drive/carriage movement. all have to be the
> same, to get the good results. If one is off the cut will not be
> consistent.)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 1, 2024 at 06:23:14 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well however you did it I think it needs more research I think it’s a very
> interesting look
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 2, 2024 1:43 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 5 bone turnings
>
>
>
> Hello Bill
>
>
>
> The chatter wave was cut form the side of the work piece, I used the clime
> cutting method, (the router bit is spinning like a car tire on wet
> pavement)  Sadly I do not remember the pitch or speed I used at this time.
>
> What I do remember is the chatter happened on the first cut, I liked the
> look, so I repeated all the cut the exact way to repeat this process.
>
> Here are some more Wave' y cuts that I have made.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 1, 2024 at 03:21:38 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Nice chatter wave curt what pitch did you set the mill at? And what wave
> width did you set the attachment at? also how many starts? and last what
> router bit did you use to side cut that wave? And what was the blank size?
> Lots of questions I know lol sorry
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 1, 2024 4:25 PM
> *To:* 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 5 bone turnings
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone. (just got home form work.)
>
> Thank you all for the kind words.
>
>
>
> Using and Making the Wave attachment is not all that hard to do.
>
>
>
> I too enjoy the look of the waves, in wood as well as in my bone turnings.
>
> If anyone would like to know more, We can open a posting on the process of
> making
>
> one. With Tim K. Bill, and my self,(who have all made our own versions.)
> as well as a few
>
> others in the group who own the wave attachment, I'm sure anyone in the
> group could make there
>
> own. The concept of how they work, as well as the simple construction it
> takes to
>
> make a attachment. Is pretty easy.
>
>
>
> Just let me know what you all think?
>
> Here are a few photo's of both, works and attachment.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 01:48:19 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via
> Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Beautiful
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024, 8:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
> Good morning everyone
>
> Tim here is the photos you asked for.  I hope these photo work for you?
>
> for some reason taking photo's of these bone handles, just don't quite
> look the same as they do by eye.  The cut is .250 of an inch deep (appx.
> the same depth as a piece of paper) the wave off-set is 1/8" with a 3"
> pitch.
>
> I hope this helps?
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.

Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow that's interesting to hear about Curt. I did not realize you were
creating a controlled
chatter on the LOM's. Very interesting. We will have to discuss that in
more detail for sure.
Look forward to learning more.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 11:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Guys!
>
> Bill I have a way to make this chatter wave 100% every time. but it
> involves another jig to make it work. What I did the first time is supper
> Kool, but Its not easy to get the results prefect every time.
> I called this cut a chatter cut, mainly due to that is exactly what is
> happening, the route bit chatters/bounces over the wood as it is cutting.
> There are a number of variables that are needed to make the Chatter cut
> work on the Legacy at this time it is not an exact science . (those
> variables are, speed of cut/RPM of the bit, depth of cut from the side/Y
> axis , and  Speed of the motor drive/carriage movement. all have to be the
> same, to get the good results. If one is off the cut will not be
> consistent.)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, March 1, 2024 at 06:23:14 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Well however you did it I think it needs more research I think it’s a very
> interesting look
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 2, 2024 1:43 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 5 bone turnings
>
>
>
> Hello Bill
>
>
>
> The chatter wave was cut form the side of the work piece, I used the clime
> cutting method, (the router bit is spinning like a car tire on wet
> pavement)  Sadly I do not remember the pitch or speed I used at this time.
>
> What I do remember is the chatter happened on the first cut, I liked the
> look, so I repeated all the cut the exact way to repeat this process.
>
> Here are some more Wave' y cuts that I have made.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 1, 2024 at 03:21:38 AM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Nice chatter wave curt what pitch did you set the mill at? And what wave
> width did you set the attachment at? also how many starts? and last what
> router bit did you use to side cut that wave? And what was the blank size?
> Lots of questions I know lol sorry
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 1, 2024 4:25 PM
> *To:* 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 5 bone turnings
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone. (just got home form work.)
>
> Thank you all for the kind words.
>
>
>
> Using and Making the Wave attachment is not all that hard to do.
>
>
>
> I too enjoy the look of the waves, in wood as well as in my bone turnings.
>
> If anyone would like to know more, We can open a posting on the process of
> making
>
> one. With Tim K. Bill, and my self,(who have all made our own versions.)
> as well as a few
>
> others in the group who own the wave attachment, I'm sure anyone in the
> group could make there
>
> own. The concept of how they work, as well as the simple construction it
> takes to
>
> make a attachment. Is pretty easy.
>
>
>
> Just let me know what you all think?
>
> Here are a few photo's of both, works and attachment.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 01:48:19 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via
> Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Beautiful
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024, 8:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
> Good morning everyone
>
> Tim here is the photos you asked for.  I hope these photo work for you?
>
> for some reason taking photo's of these bone handles, just don't quite
> look the same as they do by eye.  The cut is .250 of an inch deep (appx.
> the same depth as a piece of paper) the wave off-set is 1/8" with a 3"
> pitch.
>
> I hope this helps?
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 06:35:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
>
>
> Those are some ext

Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Bill questions just keep the conversation interesting. Nothing wrong
with that. lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 2:21 AM  wrote:

> Nice chatter wave curt what pitch did you set the mill at? And what wave
> width did you set the attachment at? also how many starts? and last what
> router bit did you use to side cut that wave? And what was the blank size?
> Lots of questions I know lol sorry
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 1, 2024 4:25 PM
> *To:* 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 5 bone turnings
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone. (just got home form work.)
>
> Thank you all for the kind words.
>
>
>
> Using and Making the Wave attachment is not all that hard to do.
>
>
>
> I too enjoy the look of the waves, in wood as well as in my bone turnings.
>
> If anyone would like to know more, We can open a posting on the process of
> making
>
> one. With Tim K. Bill, and my self,(who have all made our own versions.)
> as well as a few
>
> others in the group who own the wave attachment, I'm sure anyone in the
> group could make there
>
> own. The concept of how they work, as well as the simple construction it
> takes to
>
> make a attachment. Is pretty easy.
>
>
>
> Just let me know what you all think?
>
> Here are a few photo's of both, works and attachment.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 01:48:19 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via
> Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Beautiful
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024, 8:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
> Good morning everyone
>
> Tim here is the photos you asked for.  I hope these photo work for you?
>
> for some reason taking photo's of these bone handles, just don't quite
> look the same as they do by eye.  The cut is .250 of an inch deep (appx.
> the same depth as a piece of paper) the wave off-set is 1/8" with a 3"
> pitch.
>
> I hope this helps?
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 06:35:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
>
>
> Those are some extremely nice looking bone handles.
>
> Thanks for sharing them.  You are truely the Bone turning Master.
>
> Can you take a close up of the one you used the wave attachment
>
> on?  I would like to zoom in on the pattern a little bit closer.
>
> Great work as always.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. (Just got home form work.)
>
> Here are some of my latest turnings.
>
> I am really having a lot of fun with my Legacy.
>
>
>
> Any question or comments are, as always welcome.
>
> I am learning new tricks that are really helping me achieve
>
> my personal best. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

[Tim Ziegler]

The wave attachment is super cool. I may dig mine out this weekend too.
Just to play. Thanks for sharing.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 11:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone. (just got home form work.)
> Thank you all for the kind words.
>
> Using and Making the Wave attachment is not all that hard to do.
>
> I too enjoy the look of the waves, in wood as well as in my bone turnings.
> If anyone would like to know more, We can open a posting on the process of
> making
> one. With Tim K. Bill, and my self,(who have all made our own versions.)
> as well as a few
> others in the group who own the wave attachment, I'm sure anyone in the
> group could make there
> own. The concept of how they work, as well as the simple construction it
> takes to
> make a attachment. Is pretty easy.
>
> Just let me know what you all think?
> Here are a few photo's of both, works and attachment.
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 01:48:19 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via
> Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Beautiful
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024, 8:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
> Good morning everyone
> Tim here is the photos you asked for.  I hope these photo work for you?
> for some reason taking photo's of these bone handles, just don't quite
> look the same as they do by eye.  The cut is .250 of an inch deep (appx.
> the same depth as a piece of paper) the wave off-set is 1/8" with a 3"
> pitch.
> I hope this helps?
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 06:35:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
> Those are some extremely nice looking bone handles.
> Thanks for sharing them.  You are truely the Bone turning Master.
> Can you take a close up of the one you used the wave attachment
> on?  I would like to zoom in on the pattern a little bit closer.
> Great work as always.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. (Just got home form work.)
> Here are some of my latest turnings.
> I am really having a lot of fun with my Legacy.
>
> Any question or comments are, as always welcome.
> I am learning new tricks that are really helping me achieve
> my personal best. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

[Tim Ziegler]

yeah now one can really see it up close and personal.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 8:18 AM  wrote:

> try this one i enlarged for you
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:35 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 5 bone turnings
>
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
>
>
> Those are some extremely nice looking bone handles.
>
> Thanks for sharing them.  You are truely the Bone turning Master.
>
> Can you take a close up of the one you used the wave attachment
>
> on?  I would like to zoom in on the pattern a little bit closer.
>
> Great work as always.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. (Just got home form work.)
>
> Here are some of my latest turnings.
>
> I am really having a lot of fun with my Legacy.
>
>
>
> Any question or comments are, as always welcome.
>
> I am learning new tricks that are really helping me achieve
>
> my personal best. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

[Tim Ziegler]

thanks Bill
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 8:18 AM  wrote:

> try this one i enlarged for you
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:35 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Feb 5 bone turnings
>
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
>
>
> Those are some extremely nice looking bone handles.
>
> Thanks for sharing them.  You are truely the Bone turning Master.
>
> Can you take a close up of the one you used the wave attachment
>
> on?  I would like to zoom in on the pattern a little bit closer.
>
> Great work as always.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. (Just got home form work.)
>
> Here are some of my latest turnings.
>
> I am really having a lot of fun with my Legacy.
>
>
>
> Any question or comments are, as always welcome.
>
> I am learning new tricks that are really helping me achieve
>
> my personal best. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Legacy's Grand Daddy

[Tim Ziegler]

yup very cool.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 8:05 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> For me this is "Eye Candy"
> A Holzapfel lathe, the Original Ornamental lathe
> It works very much like the Legacy, there is a universal cutting frame
> that works like a router bit. it is powered by a belt/pulley system form
> the over head.
> The  curvilinear pattern bar works like a lathe duplicator/ our template
> follower on the Legacy.
> It is a true work of Art.
>
> Have a good day everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

[Tim Ziegler]

Very nice Curt. I really like that look.
Thanks again for sharing it.
Really sparks me to get out and put on the wave attachment and do something
again.
I have some discs I could glue up too.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 7:44 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Good morning everyone
> Tim here is the photos you asked for.  I hope these photo work for you?
> for some reason taking photo's of these bone handles, just don't quite
> look the same as they do by eye.  The cut is .250 of an inch deep (appx.
> the same depth as a piece of paper) the wave off-set is 1/8" with a 3"
> pitch.
> I hope this helps?
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 06:35:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
> Those are some extremely nice looking bone handles.
> Thanks for sharing them.  You are truely the Bone turning Master.
> Can you take a close up of the one you used the wave attachment
> on?  I would like to zoom in on the pattern a little bit closer.
> Great work as always.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. (Just got home form work.)
> Here are some of my latest turnings.
> I am really having a lot of fun with my Legacy.
>
> Any question or comments are, as always welcome.
> I am learning new tricks that are really helping me achieve
> my personal best. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Feb 5 bone turnings

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt,

Those are some extremely nice looking bone handles.
Thanks for sharing them.  You are truely the Bone turning Master.
Can you take a close up of the one you used the wave attachment
on?  I would like to zoom in on the pattern a little bit closer.
Great work as always.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone. (Just got home form work.)
> Here are some of my latest turnings.
> I am really having a lot of fun with my Legacy.
>
> Any question or comments are, as always welcome.
> I am learning new tricks that are really helping me achieve
> my personal best. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

sounds good Curt and makes sense.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:27 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you all for the kind words.
>
> Tim. this was made form the stainless steel template.  So I will keep it
> here.
>
> I said that I would let this topic rest for the time being. So this should
> be the last posting on this topic for a while.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 05:45:43 PM EST, Ed Trevillian <
> edn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Curt,
> That looks like a very finely crafted handle to me. Perhaps what you see
> as a flaw, most of us view as a handcrafted, beautiful object. It is
> CERTAINLY NOT TRASH !
> Keep up the good work !
> Ed Trevillian
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024, 11:59 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill.
>
> Taking photo's of a white bone handle doesn't always come out well in the
> photos.
> And in truth, the indexing gear slipped so my flutes are off-set. since
> they are next to a rope
> sorta make it work, but if the rope cut was not there, this turning most
> likely would have ended up
> as garbage.  SO the concept, "Form Trash to treasure" ,works for me. ;-)
>
> Have a great day.
>
> C.A.G.[image: Inline image]
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:24:57 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Very nice curt I particularly like the lovely even white of the bone,
>  perhaps the flats could be a little more pronounce they are a little hard
> to see
>
> But other than that a A1 job  very nice.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:31 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hey Guys.
>
>
>
> Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will
> let it drop for the time being.
>
> Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with.
>
>
>
> Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over
> the last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot
> how many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last
>
> Thursday's lunch time break, template.
>
> I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and
> leaving the end beads just round.
>
> As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some
> small errors in the process but, Perhaps
>
> I am just to picky with my own work?
>
> "O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left
> to do before I run out of bone disks.
>
>
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic.
> uffda.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill
>
>
>
> I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and
> laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
>
>
>
> More life stuff now.
>
> talk to you more latter.
>
>
>
> here are the pix.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy
> quite often overlooked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

yup sounds good Curt it went on long enough.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Guys.
>
> Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will
> let it drop for the time being.
> Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with.
>
> Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over
> the last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot
> how many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last
> Thursday's lunch time break, template.
> I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and
> leaving the end beads just round.
> As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some
> small errors in the process but, Perhaps
> I am just to picky with my own work?
> "O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left
> to do before I run out of bone disks.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic.
> uffda.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Bill
>
> I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and
> laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
>
> More life stuff now.
> talk to you more latter.
>
> here are the pix.
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy
> quite often overlooked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
>
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
>
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
>
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
>
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this
> posting I can find the reply.
>
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
>
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on 

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic.
uffda.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Bill
>
> I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and
> laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
>
> More life stuff now.
> talk to you more latter.
>
> here are the pix.
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy
> quite often overlooked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
>
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
>
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
>
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
>
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this
> posting I can find the reply.
>
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
>
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am
> using.
>
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
>
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
>
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
>
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
>
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
>
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note:
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the
>
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master.
>
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to
> get
>
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
>
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions.
>
>
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
>
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play
> with some of these new templates.
>
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
>
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I
> made for my 200
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>
>
>
> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
>
>
> I had 

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Very good illustrations Curt and Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
> Have a good day.
> C.A.G.
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting
> I can find the reply.
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am
> using.
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note:
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master.
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to
> get
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions.
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play
> with some of these new templates.
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I
> made for my 200
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>
> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> --
>
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Re: Another FB Market place Legacy sale.

[Tim Ziegler]

No do like I do Dan just buy it and ask for forgiveness later lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 8:53 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Had I seen this before getting the REVO, I probably would have stretched
> for it.
> It's located just down the road from my daughter and SIL...
>
> M   ust   RE SIST!
>
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:12:15 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> And the best part is many items have never been used. It too has been on
>> here for a while.
>> Great deal for sure.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 11:29 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>> Mills  wrote:
>>
>>> OK Guys.  This machine here is one of the best sales that I've seen in a
>>> long time.  1500 with motor drive and a lot of extra's
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1006397173945750/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A5f8022da-48da-4b49-8682-bf7c9d342b93
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
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Re: Legacy 900 for sale Face Book Market place. Seymour, WI

[Tim Ziegler]

No I'm innocent lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

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On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 8:33 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Fakebook says the listing isn't available anymore    Did you buy
> it?
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 7:11:17 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> yeah that ones been on for a while. I am working on a couple guys local
>> to see if there is some interest in it too but...
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 11:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>> Mills  wrote:
>>
>>> This is Not the first time this has been posted, but the Price is more
>>> then fair.   If any of you all would like a nice machine, this could  be
>>> the one for you?
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1571681723364793/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A5f8022da-48da-4b49-8682-bf7c9d342b93
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>> C.A.G.
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

wow i thought that was my mistake. guess not. whew.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 3:45 PM  wrote:

> Cardboard Assisted  really I never knew that lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2024 1:21 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Good morning Tim.
>
>
>
> "Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  .
> (Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p
>
>
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making
> templates. Many by hand, but in the end
>
> most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
>
>
>
> I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
>
> others might also like to hear more on this topic.
>
> First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the
> past I
>
> made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal
> templates that I
>
> have both bought and made.
>
> The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only
> company that I
>
> know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there
> were more.
>
> I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry,
> Templates were the poor
>
> man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not
> just wood turning.)
>
>
>
> I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine
> details in my templates, only
>
> the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my
> Legacy and or turned by hand,
>
> this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the
> finer  look of a production
>
> quality, that many people today are looking for.
>
>
>
> When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This
> centerline is where I not only start to draw
>
> from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so
> everything works together. this is why
>
> every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center
> line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this
> center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
>
> all measurements are taken form this point.
>
> These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that
> I like to make today. I am limited
>
> to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2"
> tall (remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under
> 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
>
> As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is
> larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be
> modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many
> different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my
> shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks
> that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and
> plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these
> templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning
> design patterns that I wanted to make over the years.
>
> I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and
> spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my
> early days of wood working.
>
>
>
> Back to the topic.
>
> If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to
> be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase
> speed in production.
>
> Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates w

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Not sure what happened there but I sure should spell checked sorry thats
what happens at 5:00 in the morning lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 3:45 PM  wrote:

> Cardboard Assisted  really I never knew that lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2024 1:21 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Good morning Tim.
>
>
>
> "Auto Cad".  When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted  .
> (Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p
>
>
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making
> templates. Many by hand, but in the end
>
> most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
>
>
>
> I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
>
> others might also like to hear more on this topic.
>
> First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the
> past I
>
> made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal
> templates that I
>
> have both bought and made.
>
> The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only
> company that I
>
> know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there
> were more.
>
> I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry,
> Templates were the poor
>
> man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not
> just wood turning.)
>
>
>
> I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine
> details in my templates, only
>
> the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my
> Legacy and or turned by hand,
>
> this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the
> finer  look of a production
>
> quality, that many people today are looking for.
>
>
>
> When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This
> centerline is where I not only start to draw
>
> from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so
> everything works together. this is why
>
> every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center
> line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this
> center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
>
> all measurements are taken form this point.
>
> These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that
> I like to make today. I am limited
>
> to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2"
> tall (remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under
> 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
>
> As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is
> larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be
> modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many
> different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my
> shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks
> that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and
> plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these
> templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning
> design patterns that I wanted to make over the years.
>
> I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and
> spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my
> early days of wood working.
>
>
>
> Back to the topic.
>
> If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to
> be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase
> speed in production.
&g

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making
templates. Many by hand, but in the end
most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.)
>
> I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought
> others might also like to hear more on this topic.
> First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the
> past I
> made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal
> templates that I
> have both bought and made.
> The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only
> company that I
> know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there
> were more.
> I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry,
> Templates were the poor
> man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not
> just wood turning.)
>
> I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine
> details in my templates, only
> the general shapes are what I want.  The details I choose to add with my
> Legacy and or turned by hand,
> this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the
> finer  look of a production
> quality, that many people today are looking for.
>
> When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This
> centerline is where I not only start to draw
> from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so
> everything works together. this is why
> every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center
> line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this
> center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock.
> all measurements are taken form this point.
> These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that
> I like to make today. I am limited
> to the measurement of the handle I make. those are.  3 3/4" long x 1/2"
> tall (remember the spindles are originally  7/8" dia. round, so just under
> 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.)
> As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is
> larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be
> modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many
> different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my
> shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks
> that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and
> plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago.  Many of these
> templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning
> design patterns that I wanted to make over the years.
> I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and
> spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my
> early days of wood working.
>
> Back to the topic.
> If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to
> be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase
> speed in production.
> Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates when needed. these
> stainless steel templates that I have shown. only take me appx. 20 min.
> form start to finish. (the pic. of the Stainless steel templates are to
> show how simple the designs can be, as well as the size of these templates.)
>
> If you have more questions, Please let me know.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:05:10 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I too enjoy using the Wave attachment.
> I normally stay small, but Large is So very cool!
> Those are great photo's.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many
> variations it can do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
>
>
> Yes you are right Stainless Steel is not easy to work with. using most
> hand tools.
>
> But with a 

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

That really does look cool. I like that. Thanks for sharing Curt.
Bone turning Master.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 4:36 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Again Bill.
> Here are some PHOTO'S that might help? ;-)  I am sorry about the "Shop
> Withdrawal". BTDT!
> (Bin there Done that)
>
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 05:23:23 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> I’m seeing all the great stuff you guys are doing I’m getting shop
> withdrawal lol its so dam hot here and looks like no letup for all of
> February it’s just
>
> Too hot in the shop right now
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2024 10:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
>
>
> They look like they turned out pretty cool .
>
> Nice job. No reason they won't work for sure.
>
> Great work.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:44 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
>
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
>
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
>
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
>
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
>
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

that  is some pretty cool wave.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 5:01 PM  wrote:

> With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many
> variations it can do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
>
>
> Yes you are right Stainless Steel is not easy to work with. using most
> hand tools.
>
> But with a hand angle grinder and an abrasive wheel, Plus a pedestal
> grinder with both a grinding wheel and wire brush and a few files.(for fine
> detail work.) working with these scrap steel pieces was not all that hard
> to do. Each template took something like 20 min. to make.(+/-)
>
> As I start getting more use to do this kind of stuff by hand again, I am
> hoping the quality of my work will also improve?
>
>
>
> I just made one more turning today.
>
> This one is template work, with the Wave Attachment and the Legacy.
>
>
>
> More latter.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 03:21:13 PM EST, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Curtis,
>
>
>
> Would it not have been easier to use pieces of scrap 2x2 angle iron or a
> steel window lintel from a house being renovated?
>
> You may be able to fined scrap steel at a local "Habitat for Humanity
> Re-store". (One of my favorite places to check out once or twice a month.)
>
> I have never tried cutting stainless - but have tried to drill it - and
> that's a real bear!  Much easier to drill angle iron.
>
>
>
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Feb 12, 2024 2:32 PM
> To: 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
> Hello Peter.
>
>
>
> Its been a while since we last talked.
>
>
>
> The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen
> sink that was being thrown away.
>
> but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for
> projects for me. when I can find
>
> them.
>
> Take care.  (and keep in touch.) ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 01:06:33 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via
> Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
> Nice work Curt
>
> Where did you source the stainless?
>
> Peter
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>
>
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
>
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
>
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
>
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
>
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
>
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

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On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 7:49 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Those should be quite durable.  I like that you can use them on other
> equipment.  I like that idea so much I have done that for a long time!
> I'm a big believer in modularity, partly I guess because it satisfies my
> OCD.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
>> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>>
>> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hello  Everyone.
>>
>> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
>> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
>> for my uses.
>>
>> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
>> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>>
>> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
>> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>>
>> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
>> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
>> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
>> ask.)
>> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
>> turning.
>> Have a good night everyone.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt,

They look like they turned out pretty cool .
Nice job. No reason they won't work for sure.
Great work.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:44 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello  Everyone.
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Start of a set, 1 of 2 sets.

[Tim Ziegler]

lol but getting free wood is sure a great thing for sure.

Kind Regards,

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On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 8:26 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Only the handle was "carved" on the REVO.  The spreader blade was
> "carved" on the belt sander!  These kitchen sets planned will have
> spurtles, spoons, spatulas, and the like, you know, kitchen stuff.  I
> have been the voluntary recipient of a small pickup load of rather
> large fruitwood trunks from the neighbors who know
>
> They have already been gifted probably more than they want from
> the output.
>
> DanK
>
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 7:27:31 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Hey Dan,
>> That looks great. No one has made anything quite like that that I'm aware
>> of. Great job. Glad the chart worked too.
>>
>>
>> Tim J Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork and Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser WORX LLC
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024, 4:39 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Here is today's effort.  Second try, I trashed the first effort by
>>> misplacing the pin in the
>>> indexer!  But the chart was accurate and it's really convenient and
>>> stress free to have.
>>> Methinks the detail on end contributes heavily to the illusion of rope.
>>> One way to use lathe center mark...!!!
>>> [image: SpreaderRopeTwist.PNG]  [image: SpreaderRopeTwistDetail.PNG]
>>>
>>> Apple wood, 3/4" diameter handle, six starts, Magnate 1" rope bit, 6"
>>> pitch.
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
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Re: Spring is coming, and so is Valentine's Day

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt you see this? When you get home from work of course.

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On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 3:32 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Well, it didn't take very long.  I didn't realize that there were still
> external links
> hanging around in some remote formulas.  Got those fixed, so NOW the
> Legacy Charts 11.2 should work.
> Can Curt or somebody remove the attachment of 11.1 in previous message
> to eliminate more confusion?  Please?
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:29:14 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I finished another vase this morning indexing 12 cuts around the
>> bottom and 5 cuts around the top to start the petals without changing
>> the setup. Just used a different move chart.  Again, turned
>> on lathe, moved to REVO, then hand carved petals.  Apple and pear
>> are very hard to carve.  They burn easily under power tools.
>> So now I'm pretty confident that I have the vernier operation on
>> the 72 hole ring down pat and the charts I printed out are accurate.
>> It goes fast when you know what to do.  And it's nice to have a lathe
>> adapter
>> that holds the Legacy drive plate spurs.
>> [image: VaseApple.PNG]
>>
>> I am attaching Legacy Charts 11.1 with the completed and now
>> verified updates.  It seems that every time I post it, I find an error
>> just after posting it!  Grandsons helped a lot with the underlying
>> math.  It has a new sheet with the underlying development laid
>> out and it is *only* for supporting the cells on "Vernier Operation"
>> sheet, and on the VO sheet there is only one cell to interact with.
>> Many things not needed by the operator are hidden, and you will
>> notice the output range changes depending upon how many moves
>> the required index takes. The sheets are protected without password
>> to prevent accidental changes.  You may have to unprotect the VO
>> sheet to select print range, otherwise it will print 17 pages of blanks..
>> The "Vernier Operation" sheet has operation description and pictures.
>>
>> With this setup, it's like having 30 (and more) index rings. In addition,
>> indexing is done very precisely on the fly without referring to rulers
>> on the frame.  It allows to make multiple passes or even incremental
>> offset passes while maintaining the full range of pitches the gear
>> system offers.
>>
>> I'll try to answer any questions.
>> DanK
>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 9:58:11 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>>> Cant wait to see it for sure.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 7:44 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you, guys.  It is a combo project, turned on lathe, decorated on
>>>> REVO with top cut 60° V cutter making 15 indexed 6" pitch cuts, and
>>>> then carved on the top.  This is unfinished pear wood. I put Danish
>>>> Oil on it an gave it away immediately to shop visitor, so didn't get a
>>>> picture of it with finish.  Next one is already turned, indexed at 12
>>>> cuts
>>>> because it is slightly smaller, and will carve on the top today a
>>>> different
>>>> style of "petals".  I already like it better.
>>>> DanK
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:15:17 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Dan!   That's Very nice looking flower pot/vase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you rope form the side of the vase? (3/9"O"clock position.)
>>>>>
>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:04:02 AM EST, M.W.Foscue <
>>>>> mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very nice - thank you for sharing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a "combination turning & carving" project?
>>>>>
>>>>> Turning the vase, indexing where the petals' start, center point, and
>>>>> end points are whi