Re: [LegacyUG] Image captions using misspelled surnames

2012-08-08 Thread Charani
Lavern Hall wrote:

 I am working on one branch of the family whose surname is
 repeatedly misspelled (e.g. original spelling is Giorgio which
 has turned into Giorgi, Georgi, Gorge, George.)  In each case,
 I've transcribed the record exactly as the name appeared, and
 I've put the alternate spellings in the AKA's (with their source).
 1) I'm not sure this is the best way to handle this part with AKA's,
 or if I should make a comment under General Notes.

The various spellings aren't really AKAs.  For instance, Maria GEORGE
wasn't also known as (aka) Maria GIORGIO because the name had evolved,
right? They aren't really misspellings either.  They're closer to
variations or alternatives.

My BERRY family first appeared as BURY when they moved to a different
part of the country, both spellings were apparently randomly used
within the family.  I use the spelling as it appears in the record but
put the alternative spelling in brackets if that has also been used
for the same person, eg Thomas Charles BERRY (BURY) or Rose Hannah
(Rosanna) BERRY (BURY).

 2) When I save the image for the record to my Legacy picture folder,
 I've saved it using the alternate spelling (e.g. George, Sam if that is
 how the name appears in the census, instead of Giorgio, Salvatore
 which is his given name.)   So. When I look at the directory of names
 to see what images I have for any individual, I am having a problem
 keeping people straight, especially since several family members
 have the same first names.

How about adding the year of birth in brackets (eg GEORGE, Sam
(Salvatore b 1926)?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Image captions using misspelled surnames

2012-08-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Charani

I cannot agree with your suggestion of adding an 'historic' or 'more common'
name to that recorded in either vital events or censuses. To me this seems
to ignore a basic principle of recording data i.e. it should be recorded as
written in the document. I do not see the point of adding the dob to the
name either 1) for the above reason and 2) it is unnecessary.

In my One-Name I can have a large number of duplicate given names with the
Ferguson surname. When checking to see if I already have an entry for a new
individual (eg. from a census) I use SearchDetailed Search for Individual;
Given Name; Contains; Name (I only use the first name, 2nd perhaps if 1st
produces no result) AND Individual; Birth Place; Contains; County.

This gives a Name list in dob order, and is quick to use, because when
searching only the last field changes.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Charani
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Image captions using misspelled surnames

Lavern Hall wrote:

 I am working on one branch of the family whose surname is
 repeatedly misspelled (e.g. original spelling is Giorgio which
 has turned into Giorgi, Georgi, Gorge, George.)  In each case,
 I've transcribed the record exactly as the name appeared, and
 I've put the alternate spellings in the AKA's (with their source).
 1) I'm not sure this is the best way to handle this part with AKA's,
 or if I should make a comment under General Notes.

The various spellings aren't really AKAs.  For instance, Maria GEORGE
wasn't also known as (aka) Maria GIORGIO because the name had evolved,
right? They aren't really misspellings either.  They're closer to
variations or alternatives.

My BERRY family first appeared as BURY when they moved to a different
part of the country, both spellings were apparently randomly used
within the family.  I use the spelling as it appears in the record but
put the alternative spelling in brackets if that has also been used
for the same person, eg Thomas Charles BERRY (BURY) or Rose Hannah
(Rosanna) BERRY (BURY).

 2) When I save the image for the record to my Legacy picture folder,
 I've saved it using the alternate spelling (e.g. George, Sam if that is
 how the name appears in the census, instead of Giorgio, Salvatore
 which is his given name.)   So. When I look at the directory of names
 to see what images I have for any individual, I am having a problem
 keeping people straight, especially since several family members
 have the same first names.

How about adding the year of birth in brackets (eg GEORGE, Sam
(Salvatore b 1926)?


--
Charani (UK)
OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick,
Greinton and Clutton, SOM
http://wsom-opc.org.uk




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Re: [LegacyUG] Image captions using misspelled surnames

2012-08-08 Thread Charani
Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Charani

 I cannot agree with your suggestion of adding an 'historic' or 'more common'
 name to that recorded in either vital events or censuses. To me this seems
 to ignore a basic principle of recording data i.e. it should be recorded as
 written in the document. I do not see the point of adding the dob to the
 name either 1) for the above reason and 2) it is unnecessary.

It's not ignoring the basic rules. It's a means of linking together
family members.

My BERRY/BURY family were first found in Kent as BERRY but on tracking
them back they became BURY when they lived in Warwickshire.  Some of
the children start off with one spelling and end up with the other.
Some keep one spelling.  Others keep t'other. If I didn't link them by
adding the other spelling, I could have two completely different
families linked to different family lines.  The BURYs of Warkwickshire
might not be the BERRYs of Kent.

Adding the DoB was for the images as a quick identification method.
Again one which I find useful when I have four brothers named Charles,
John, James and Henry and each of them uses those same four names for
their own sons who in turn use them for their sons.  The aide memoire
tells me straight away which son's record I need.

 In my One-Name I can have a large number of duplicate given names with the
 Ferguson surname. When checking to see if I already have an entry for a new
 individual (eg. from a census) I use SearchDetailed Search for Individual;
 Given Name; Contains; Name (I only use the first name, 2nd perhaps if 1st
 produces no result) AND Individual; Birth Place; Contains; County.

That's the same with mine: the four above plus William for the boys,
Mary, Elizabeth and Ann for the girls plus 22 variant or alternative
spellings for the surname.

The database is compiled from CMBs and BMDs only.  Other sources, such
as censuses, wills, deeds, are added in the, um, Other Sources column
in the spreadsheet.  In Legacy, I have parents and spouses in the
index which means I can quickly find the person I want, right click on
the name and add the new source to the Notes.

 This gives a Name list in dob order, and is quick to use, because when
 searching only the last field changes.

Adding a DoB isn't necessary in the name list but for images, I find
it very useful.  It saves me having to open several images in order to
find the one I want.

I'm sure a lot of people will be horrified at the way I use Legacy but
it works for me.  Any similarity between some field names and my use
of them is often purely coincidental :))

--
Charani (UK)
OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick,
Greinton and Clutton, SOM
http://wsom-opc.org.uk




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[LegacyUG] Finding Dups

2012-08-08 Thread Michele Lewis
I think the finding dups needs some improving.  Here is a possible match
found.



David Johnson born 1962

David Johnson married 1815



I would think that the program should be able to see that this can't be a
match.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Finding Dups

2012-08-08 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 8/8/2012 7:50 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 I think the finding dups needs some improving.  Here is a possible match
 found…

 David Johnson born 1962

 David Johnson married 1815

 I would think that the program should be able to see that this can’t be
 a match.



Without seeing your options and the complete return, it is hard to come
to your conclusion.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Finding Dups

2012-08-08 Thread Michele Lewis
That is what is displayed when I run a find dups.

On the left side it shows David Johnson with a birth date of 1962, on the right 
side it shows the other David Johnson who has a marriage date of 1815.  
Needless to say I marked them as not duplicates but that should have been 
figured out by the computer.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Finding Dups

On 8/8/2012 7:50 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 I think the finding dups needs some improving.  Here is a possible
 match found…

 David Johnson born 1962

 David Johnson married 1815

 I would think that the program should be able to see that this can’t
 be a match.



Without seeing your options and the complete return, it is hard to come to your 
conclusion.


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Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Finding Dups

2012-08-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Michele,

I tend to agree with you. I came to the conclusion, rightly or wrongly, that
Legacy does not compare vital dates, so I no longer use it, preferring
GenMatch or GenViewer (usually the former).

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Finding Dups

That is what is displayed when I run a find dups.

On the left side it shows David Johnson with a birth date of 1962, on the
right side it shows the other David Johnson who has a marriage date of 1815.
Needless to say I marked them as not duplicates but that should have been
figured out by the computer.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Finding Dups

On 8/8/2012 7:50 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 I think the finding dups needs some improving.  Here is a possible
 match found…

 David Johnson born 1962

 David Johnson married 1815

 I would think that the program should be able to see that this can’t
 be a match.



Without seeing your options and the complete return, it is hard to come to
your conclusion.


--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research




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RE: [LegacyUG] Finding Dups

2012-08-08 Thread Bobby Johnson
Michele,
This could be the preverbal double edged sword.  If the program eliminates this 
as a dup and one of the dates is in error, then you would not see the error.  I 
think I would rather choose to call it a dup instead of having the computer 
determine that it isn't.
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Finding Dups

That is what is displayed when I run a find dups.

On the left side it shows David Johnson with a birth date of 1962, on the right 
side it shows the other David Johnson who has a marriage date of 1815.  
Needless to say I marked them as not duplicates but that should have been 
figured out by the computer.

Michele






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Re: [LegacyUG] Image captions using misspelled surnames

2012-08-08 Thread Lavern Hall
Thanks everyone!

My main concern was with identifying images and I do agree that adding
the date of birth, or even just the birth year, would resolve my confusion
and allow for quick identification. I've gone back into my Legacy Picture
directory and changed the spelling of names to adhere to the name used on
birth records plus I added a birth year. Surprising only two family members
with the same name were born on the same year. Fortunately, the images
weren't linked to individuals, so my next step is linking and sourcing
images to individuals.

As for the various spellings *not* being actual AKAs. Absolutely.  Jenny
Benson said, I record names as they appear, but I don't record all the
variations as AKAs, preferring to use AKA only for where someone actually
used 2 (or more) different names.  I agree, and I think following this
rule will keep my data simplified in a way that it will be understood by
other family members later. Since most of my ancestors have migrated to the
US, the majority of their names have been Americanized. One of my uncles,
for example, whose birth name is Cateno, was called Gus. Cateno goes on his
individual record, Gus goes in his AKA. The 1920 US Census has him listed
as August, but since we (the family) don't know him this way, I did a
Census Event and did not record August as an AKA.

Again, thanks everyone for your input.

Lavern Hall
Aurora, Ohio, USA

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Charani charan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ron Ferguson wrote:
  Charani
 
  I cannot agree with your suggestion of adding an 'historic' or 'more
 common'
  name to that recorded in either vital events or censuses. To me this
 seems
  to ignore a basic principle of recording data i.e. it should be recorded
 as
  written in the document. I do not see the point of adding the dob to the
  name either 1) for the above reason and 2) it is unnecessary.

 It's not ignoring the basic rules. It's a means of linking together
 family members.

 My BERRY/BURY family were first found in Kent as BERRY but on tracking
 them back they became BURY when they lived in Warwickshire.  Some of
 the children start off with one spelling and end up with the other.
 Some keep one spelling.  Others keep t'other. If I didn't link them by
 adding the other spelling, I could have two completely different
 families linked to different family lines.  The BURYs of Warkwickshire
 might not be the BERRYs of Kent.

 Adding the DoB was for the images as a quick identification method.
 Again one which I find useful when I have four brothers named Charles,
 John, James and Henry and each of them uses those same four names for
 their own sons who in turn use them for their sons.  The aide memoire
 tells me straight away which son's record I need.

  In my One-Name I can have a large number of duplicate given names with
 the
  Ferguson surname. When checking to see if I already have an entry for a
 new
  individual (eg. from a census) I use SearchDetailed Search for
 Individual;
  Given Name; Contains; Name (I only use the first name, 2nd perhaps if 1st
  produces no result) AND Individual; Birth Place; Contains; County.

 That's the same with mine: the four above plus William for the boys,
 Mary, Elizabeth and Ann for the girls plus 22 variant or alternative
 spellings for the surname.

 The database is compiled from CMBs and BMDs only.  Other sources, such
 as censuses, wills, deeds, are added in the, um, Other Sources column
 in the spreadsheet.  In Legacy, I have parents and spouses in the
 index which means I can quickly find the person I want, right click on
 the name and add the new source to the Notes.

  This gives a Name list in dob order, and is quick to use, because when
  searching only the last field changes.

 Adding a DoB isn't necessary in the name list but for images, I find
 it very useful.  It saves me having to open several images in order to
 find the one I want.

 I'm sure a lot of people will be horrified at the way I use Legacy but
 it works for me.  Any similarity between some field names and my use
 of them is often purely coincidental :))

 --
 Charani (UK)
 OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick,
 Greinton and Clutton, SOM
 http://wsom-opc.org.uk




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Re: [LegacyUG] Show all events

2012-08-08 Thread Brian/Support
Believe the help. We had so many problem reports about lost sources when
all the user had done was turn off show all events that we support
people asked the programmers to have show all events turned on when you
first open the assigned sources list screen. That will apply each time
you use Legacy but should stay turned OFF for the rest of your session
once you have turned it off. When you close and restart Legacy the
option will reset to on.

Brian
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We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 07/08/2012 21:46, Marli wrote:
 Where do I find the setup to turn off show all events in the assigned 
 sources for: list. I want to just see assigned sources, not all events. I 
 unclick the box and next time I look, it is unclicked.
 How do I turn it off so it stays off until I want it turned on? Help says I 
 can't. Someone please tell me how I can
 Marli Yoder
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[LegacyUG] error 3163

2012-08-08 Thread Robert Runion
What is the solution to error 3163?  I do not know how to correct it.

Bob




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Re: [LegacyUG] error 3163

2012-08-08 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 8/8/2012 1:02 PM, Robert Runion wrote:
 What is the solution to error 3163?  I do not know how to correct it.

 Bob

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpError3163.asp


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re: [LegacyUG] error 3163

2012-08-08 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Bob,

There are several glitches that may popup in the family file from time to
time. They can often be fixed by doing a Check and Repair of the family
file. First, backup your family file, or if it won't backup, then make a
copy of it..

Next, please click on File on the menu bar and select File Maintenance 
Check/Repair and proceed with the repair. If any error messages occur
during the Check/Repair process, click No in the error message box so that
the repair steps can finish.  Do Check/Repair twice if errors are found.

If the program is still gives you errors, export your records into a GEDCOM
file and then import the GEDCOM back into a new family file in Legacy. Use
the new family file.

Please let us know how it goes.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


 Original Message 
 From: Robert Runion sarge1...@cox.net
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:02 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] error 3163

 What is the solution to error 3163?  I do not know how to correct it.



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[LegacyUG] Sourcing UK Census

2012-08-08 Thread Terry L .



Hi, I was about to add a UK Census to the sources, when I noticed the the 
family is split between 2 pages. Fist page starts with the head and a couple of 
children, and the secon page has the rest of the family. Do I create 2 separate 
sorces for this? Cheers! Terry Laraman


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing UK Census

2012-08-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Terry,

I don’t, I use the census references for the page with the Head on it and 
attach both page images to the multimedia files.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Terry L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing UK Census

Hi,

I was about to add a UK Census to the sources, when I noticed the the family is 
split between 2 pages. Fist page starts with the head and a couple of children, 
and the secon page has the rest of the family. Do I create 2 separate sorces 
for this?

Cheers!

Terry Laraman




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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing UK Census

2012-08-08 Thread Terry L .
Thanks Ron! I think I will do the same but put in notes that there are 2 pages 
to this family. CheersTerry Laraman
 From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing UK Census
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:59:47 +0100









Terry,

I don’t, I use the census references for the page
with the Head on it and attach both page images to the multimedia
files.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/



From: Terry L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing UK Census


Hi,

I was about to add a UK Census to the sources,
when I noticed the the family is split between 2 pages. Fist page starts with
the head and a couple of children, and the secon page has the rest of the
family. Do I create 2 separate sorces for
this?

Cheers!

Terry
Laraman





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[LegacyUG] Sourcing UK Census

2012-08-08 Thread Tony Rolfe
I do something very similar to Ron.

I save both images and attach them to the one source.  Then I put both
page numbers into the source detail.

Cheers

Tony



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[LegacyUG] Finding Dups

2012-08-08 Thread Tony Rolfe
Surely Legacy is finding possible duplicates.   It is up to you to
determine whether or not these are the same people.  If one date was in
error (have you never written 1856 instead of 1956?) then it would be
good to get this shown.

If they aren't the same person then mark them as such and they will go away.

Tony



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[LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

2012-08-08 Thread Tony Rolfe
I recently ran a potential problems report and found the following
situation:

A woman had married and had children.

The 1871 census shows her as a widow with several children, including a
3-month-old daughter.  Her husband had died in 1868.

The 1881 census shows her being remarried with two more children born
after 1871 but before her new marriage and with her previous married
surname.

So, these may have been adopted, they may be fathered by her new husband
before the marriage, or she may have had another, as yet undocumented,
relationship (or two).

The three children born between the death of husband 1 and the marriage
to husband 2 were linked to husband 1 and showed up as potential
problems.  I've unlinked the three children from their parents and
linked them to the mother, but now they each have an unknown father.
This poor woman shows up as having 5 husbands, three unknowns and two
with names.  Is there any way to consolidate the 3 unknown spouses into
one, without actually creating someone called Unknown?

Advice would be appreciated

thanks

Tony




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Re: [LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

2012-08-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Tony,

But from what you say Legacy isn't showing them correctly? It is merely
confirming what you know, or rather don't, that the father is unknown.

I have said many time on this list, the last time being this week, that by
right clicking on the unknown father(s) and deleting they will be deleted
from Family View etc. They will still appear in the Marriage List, but other
than you who will read that list?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

I recently ran a potential problems report and found the following
situation:

A woman had married and had children.

The 1871 census shows her as a widow with several children, including a
3-month-old daughter.  Her husband had died in 1868.

The 1881 census shows her being remarried with two more children born
after 1871 but before her new marriage and with her previous married
surname.

So, these may have been adopted, they may be fathered by her new husband
before the marriage, or she may have had another, as yet undocumented,
relationship (or two).

The three children born between the death of husband 1 and the marriage
to husband 2 were linked to husband 1 and showed up as potential
problems.  I've unlinked the three children from their parents and
linked them to the mother, but now they each have an unknown father.
This poor woman shows up as having 5 husbands, three unknowns and two
with names.  Is there any way to consolidate the 3 unknown spouses into
one, without actually creating someone called Unknown?

Advice would be appreciated

thanks

Tony




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Re: [LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

2012-08-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Tony,

I should have mentioned, you could, of course, buy the birth certificates to
see if a father is named on them. Also you may find references to the father
in parish records (birth/baptism), and in court records if an application
for maintenance was made.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

I recently ran a potential problems report and found the following
situation:

A woman had married and had children.

The 1871 census shows her as a widow with several children, including a
3-month-old daughter.  Her husband had died in 1868.

The 1881 census shows her being remarried with two more children born
after 1871 but before her new marriage and with her previous married
surname.

So, these may have been adopted, they may be fathered by her new husband
before the marriage, or she may have had another, as yet undocumented,
relationship (or two).

The three children born between the death of husband 1 and the marriage
to husband 2 were linked to husband 1 and showed up as potential
problems.  I've unlinked the three children from their parents and
linked them to the mother, but now they each have an unknown father.
This poor woman shows up as having 5 husbands, three unknowns and two
with names.  Is there any way to consolidate the 3 unknown spouses into
one, without actually creating someone called Unknown?

Advice would be appreciated

thanks

Tony





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Re: [LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

2012-08-08 Thread JLB
Maybe all 3 were fathered by different men. It can happen. In the
meantime, you can merge the 3 unknowns into 1 unknown using the Merge
function.
---
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On 8/8/2012 5:24 PM, Tony Rolfe wrote:
 I recently ran a potential problems report and found the following
 situation:

 A woman had married and had children.

 The 1871 census shows her as a widow with several children, including a
 3-month-old daughter.  Her husband had died in 1868.

 The 1881 census shows her being remarried with two more children born
 after 1871 but before her new marriage and with her previous married
 surname.

 So, these may have been adopted, they may be fathered by her new husband
 before the marriage, or she may have had another, as yet undocumented,
 relationship (or two).

 The three children born between the death of husband 1 and the marriage
 to husband 2 were linked to husband 1 and showed up as potential
 problems.  I've unlinked the three children from their parents and
 linked them to the mother, but now they each have an unknown father.
 This poor woman shows up as having 5 husbands, three unknowns and two
 with names.  Is there any way to consolidate the 3 unknown spouses into
 one, without actually creating someone called Unknown?

 Advice would be appreciated

 thanks

 Tony




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[LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

2012-08-08 Thread Tony Rolfe
Thanks for the advice so far.

I can't merge these people because they don't appear in the name list.
and I can't delete them as they are just dummy entries (RIN 0).

When I right-click them I just get Add the husband or Edit the marriage.

Legacy is displaying them as unknown, which is correct, but is
displaying them as different which we don't know is correct.

I was just hoping to simplify the Pedigree view display and have just
one unknown rather than 3, but it doesn't appear to work that way



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[LegacyUG] Legacy Dropbox Syncback

2012-08-08 Thread Ian GARDENER
Hi,

I currently have all my legacy files, both multimedia  data, in my dropbox.




I have also just become aware that if I don't access my dropbox for 90 days,
the dropbox people may

delete my files from their server. If I then use my pc, dropbox will
automatically delete the files on my pc too.

This has all been verified to me by the dropbox help people. SCARY !!



So I still like the idea of dropbox but what I'm thinking of doing now is
moving all my legacy files back into a

normal docs folder and then using syncback to keep an updated copy of those
files in my dropbox. That way

even if they got deleted from the dropbox folder, I still have my totally up
to date files. Does anyone see any

problems with this? I couldn't imagine it will muck up legacy in any way.



ALSO before anyone brings it up, yes it is highly possible I could be away
from my pc for extended times. I

Have an ongoing battle with recurring brain tumours and last time I was in
hospital for 7 months learning to

use my limbs again.



As I say, I don't forsee any problems but I fugure it's safer to throw it
out there to see what other legacy users think.



Cheers



Ian GARDENER

Australia




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Dropbox Syncback

2012-08-08 Thread JLB
Yes, I definitely wouldn't keep anything in Dropbox that you could lose
for whatever reason. I used to and changed my mind about it. Now I only
keep my shared folders and portable apps there. But I also backup My
Dropbox to my external hard-drives.

Dropbox, by the way, is a more complicated way of using Legacy than say,
SugarSync, where you don't have to move your files from their original
locations. I don't know if they have also have a time limit for keeping
your files, but if they do, your originals are still on your pc where
you first installed them. SugarSync is only a backup and may be also
there for the convenience of syncing to another computer.

In any case, if your files disappeared from SugarSync they'd still be on
both your computers.

I don't use cloud services for backup. For that I use external
hard-drives. As convenient as the cloud can be I don't like the thought
of someone else having access to and control over my personal files. So
I only use them for collaboration as needed.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 8/8/2012 7:32 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
 Hi,

 I currently have all my legacy files, both multimedia  data, in my
 dropbox.

 I have also just become aware that if I don’t access my dropbox for 90
 days, the dropbox people may

 delete my files from their server. If I then use my pc, dropbox will
 automatically delete the files on my pc too.

 This has all been verified to me by the dropbox help people. SCARY !!

 So I still like the idea of dropbox but what I’m thinking of doing now
 is moving all my legacy files back into a

 normal docs folder and then using syncback to keep an updated copy of
 those files in my dropbox. That way

 even if they got deleted from the dropbox folder, I still have my
 totally up to date files. Does anyone see any

 problems with this? I couldn’t imagine it will muck up legacy in any way.

 ALSO before anyone brings it up, yes it is highly possible I could be
 away from my pc for extended times. I

 Have an ongoing battle with recurring brain tumours and last time I was
 in hospital for 7 months learning to

 use my limbs again.

 As I say, I don’t forsee any problems but I fugure it’s safer to throw
 it out there to see what other legacy users think.

 Cheers

 Ian GARDENER

 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Dropbox Syncback

2012-08-08 Thread Kathy Meyer
I also do periodic backups to an external hard drive in addition to using
dropbox as my primary folder for saving my genealogy files, including
Legacy; it's always best to use multiple back up types for something as
important as genealogy research -- it would be difficult, if not
impossible, to reproduce so it is definitely one of my very most valuable
things in my home.

Kathy

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Ian GARDENER ijg3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I currently have all my legacy files, both multimedia  data, in my
 dropbox. 

 ** **

 I have also just become aware that if I don’t access my dropbox for 90
 days, the dropbox people may 

 delete my files from their server. If I then use my pc, dropbox will
 automatically delete the files on my pc too.

 This has all been verified to me by the dropbox help people. SCARY !!

 ** **

 So I still like the idea of dropbox but what I’m thinking of doing now is
 moving all my legacy files back into a 

 normal docs folder and then using syncback to keep an updated copy of
 those files in my dropbox. That way 

 even if they got deleted from the dropbox folder, I still have my totally
 up to date files. Does anyone see any 

 problems with this? I couldn’t imagine it will muck up legacy in any way.*
 ***

 ** **

 ALSO before anyone brings it up, yes it is highly possible I could be away
 from my pc for extended times. I

 Have an ongoing battle with recurring brain tumours and last time I was in
 hospital for 7 months learning to

 use my limbs again.

 ** **

 As I say, I don’t forsee any problems but I fugure it’s safer to throw it
 out there to see what other legacy users think.

 ** **

 Cheers

 ** **

 Ian GARDENER

 Australia


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RE: [LegacyUG] error 3163

2012-08-08 Thread Robert Austen
Hi Jim,
When recommending an export into a Gedcom and then import the Gedcom I feel it 
would be well to advise choosing the settings carefully as data can be lost.  
It could be those needing to be told this procedure are less aware of potential 
trouble as I was years ago and subsequently lost all [[data]] and 'private' and 
'living' individuals.

Bob A.

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From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: re: [LegacyUG] error 3163

Bob,

There are several glitches that may popup in the family file from time to time. 
They can often be fixed by doing a Check and Repair of the family file. First, 
backup your family file, or if it won't backup, then make a copy of it..

Next, please click on File on the menu bar and select File Maintenance  
Check/Repair and proceed with the repair. If any error messages occur during 
the Check/Repair process, click No in the error message box so that the repair 
steps can finish.  Do Check/Repair twice if errors are found.

If the program is still gives you errors, export your records into a GEDCOM 
file and then import the GEDCOM back into a new family file in Legacy. Use the 
new family file.

Please let us know how it goes.

Jim
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


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 What is the solution to error 3163?  I do not know how to correct it.







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Re: [LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

2012-08-08 Thread familytree
...you may also find it helpful until you ascertain the correct parentage of
each child to KEEP separate daddies for each of the kids but enclose ...for
example Daddy1, Daddy2 Daddy3 in privacy brackets...this keeps  them from
appearing in print but still gives you full control over whether they appear
in print Once exact parentage has been confirmed, the names can be changed
to convict the guilty




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From: JLB
Date: 8/8/2012 9:38:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] a surfeit of husbands

Maybe all 3 were fathered by different men.snip



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[LegacyUG] Latitude and longitude not exporting

2012-08-08 Thread Jennifer Crockett
Using V 7.5.0.201 I find latitude and longitude are not exporting with a
GEDCOM produced for Legacy.

This has been an ongoing problem. A few versions ago it was only if I loaded
a list that they wouldn't export.

Can anyone confirm this?

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com






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Re: [LegacyUG] Dropped birth date

2012-08-08 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I have parish records dated Feb 30, 1846. The next few were dated Mar 1, so I 
can not ?correct? this error, but I put 'Feb 30, 1846' so it is referenced by 
notes.




 From: Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dropped birth date

I believe after re-checking those screen shots that Dave is correct about the 
date 29 Feb 1890.  Since that is an invalid date, it is not being sorted or 
shown correctly.  Change it to 28 Feb 1890 (with a possible explanation for 
doing so) and then see if things shake out as they should.
Ron Taylor




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RE: [LegacyUG] Latitude and longitude not exporting

2012-08-08 Thread Jennifer Crockett
Further to this, if you are looking, it is the _PLAC_DEFN tag that is missing.

Jennifer


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From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012 2:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Latitude and longitude not exporting

Using V 7.5.0.201 I find latitude and longitude are not exporting with a
GEDCOM produced for Legacy.

This has been an ongoing problem. A few versions ago it was only if I loaded
a list that they wouldn't export.

Can anyone confirm this?

Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com





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