[LegacyUG] user group

2012-09-17 Thread Jane Sarles
Does anyone know of a user group in the Louisville Kentucky/New Albany
Indiana area?

Jane Sarles



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Re: [LegacyUG] user group

2012-09-17 Thread Sherry/Support
Jane,

Check our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com  Help Center  User Groups
for a listing of groups.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know of a user group in the Louisville Kentucky/New Albany
 Indiana area?

 Jane Sarles




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Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED

2012-09-17 Thread Karen and Jim
Jan,
I could not find Event Clipboard.
Remember, I'm using v.5, so maybe
Event Clipboard is not available.
I have found only Source Clipboard
in v.5.
JimS


On 09/16/2012 07:48 PM, Jan Roberts wrote:
 If you go to Events in the Help file in the program this is what you see -
 Using the Event Clipboard

   To copy an Event to the clipboard:

   1. Click the  button. [shows the copy icon - removed because this is in 
 plain text]

   To paste an Event from the clipboard to a list:

   1. Open the Add Event window for the person or marriage you want to add the 
 event to.
   2. Click the  button. [shows the paste button - removed because this is in 
 plaint text]

 I doubt you could get much plainer than that.

 Cheers
 Jan
 -Original Message-
 From: Western Spirit Wood Creations [mailto:westernspi...@shaw.ca]
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 08:40
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED

 There are many easy to use features in Legacy (and other programs) it is too 
 bad that help menus are rarely written in plain language that doesn't require 
 learning a totally new tongue to find something.
 Most helps don't help unless you already know what to look for. One of my pet 
 peeves.
 Bev M.
 - Original Message -
 From: Karen and Jim Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - 
 SOLVED


 On 09/16/2012 03:23 PM, Karen and Jim wrote:

 Hi Listers,

 Using ver 5 Deluxe.

 I would like to be able to auto-fill Events/Facts.
 When doing census for a large families,
 10 - 15 children.
 I would like NOT to have to retype the same thing again and again.
 I would like to automated this procedure.

 I would prefer to simply put my cursor in the Event box and paste and
 all four boxes would be filled.
 I would like to paste the following 4 lines as a single action:
 cen
 Living with parents.
 1930
 Helt

 I copied the above into Notepad,
 separating with tabs,
 but everything stayed in the first box, Event.

 Can this be done?

 JimS



 Thanks for your replies.

 They did not seem to answer my question, but when checking your answers out, 
 I found the REPEAT button inside EVENTS/FACTS.  It works beautifully.
 Just type the data in for the first person and click click ...  REPEAT for 
 the rest.

 Strange I couldn't find reference
 to it in the handbook for EVENTS/FACTS,
 but it is mentioned in ADDING AN ADDRESS.

 Thanks again for pushing me in the
 right direction.

 JimS






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[LegacyUG] descendant report

2012-09-17 Thread Maureen Supon
Hello,
  Could someone please tell me if it is possible to print a concise report of 
the descendants of someone, including their name, birth date (not place), 
marriage date (not place), address, phone, and e-mail ?
  One of my relatives does this with other genealogy software, to keep 
everybody in his family up-to-date with all of their contact information, and 
I'd like to do it for another branch of living relatives.
Thank You,
Maureen


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Re: [LegacyUG] traveling with Legacy- Christmas wish list!!!

2012-09-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I shipped some of my clothes to the hotel (we sang concerts in Tuxes , 
instruments and other stuff) Keep computer close.

--- On Sun, 9/16/12, Lucie Vaccaro Bailey luci...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Lucie Vaccaro Bailey luci...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] traveling with Legacy- Christmas wish list!!!
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:14 AM
 weight. trying to go with just
 carry-on.
 Lu

 On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
 wrote:
  On 9/16/2012 9:56 AM, Lucie Vaccaro Bailey wrote:
  I really dont want
  to take my laptop again what is out there I can use
 with my Legacy
  program
 
  Why ?
 
  --
  Tim Rosenlof
  Utah, USA
  Swedish Research
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Why should Legacy have to purchase software and increase cost when people 
should be expected to follow rules/requests.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 9/16/12, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote:

 From: Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:22 AM
 Michelle,

 Legacy support has always maintained that there software
 cannot block
 attachments.  They always relied on users to refrain
 from sending
 attachments and/or HTML messages.  Finally thy gave up
 on saying no
 HTML because some users simply refused to follow the
 guidelines.  At
 least, they haven't caved on attachments even though some
 users ignore
 that also.  It would be really nice if they would look
 into software
 that can block/reject messages sent to the list in HTML
 and/or
 attachments, but it doesn't look like that will ever
 happen.

 Ron Bernier
 Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send
 messages in plain
  text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end
 that would prevent
  attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain
 text?  Didn't it  used to
  be that way at one time?
 
  Michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Jackie,
the last time we moved from a no internet neighborhood, and had to bypass nice 
houses without connections. Luckily we looked until we found a place. It is not 
as universal as some would think. This is in USA. Same problem elsewhere.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 9/16/12, Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 1:04 PM




Let me make it very easy because I used to be on the other end -

There are still some 19 million Internet users (recent survey) in the United 
States that cannot get high speed internet access. For them, attachments can be 
a real pain. I remember one night on another list waiting almost a half hour 
for a message with an attachment to download - and of course, on my service, I 
had no other way to get to other messages until that downloaded. For many its 
not just a matter of what we would like to see.

For some it is also a matter of fees - there are some people who still get 
charged for the amount of bandwidth downloaded. For them it can be a 
pocketbooks issue. It's not a matter of trying to exclude likes - it is a 
matter of trying to include folks.

I now have my high-speed, but only because I moved.

Jackie

On 9/16/2012 2:46 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:




Interesting opinions.  Looks like the plain-texters have it.  But wait a 
minute.  There are many of us out there that detest plain text in body or 
attachment, and I happen to be one of them.  To force us out of the picture 
smacks of unilatetral bullyism, and we wouldn't want that, would we?  Stick to 
what you prefer and like best.
 
Richard / HTML Always
 
 
- Original Message -
From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

On 9/16/2012 11:40 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send messages in plain
 text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that would prevent
 attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?

Nope

   Didn't it  used to
 be that way at one time?

Nope

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread Tessa Keough
Has anyone at Legacy considered simplemachines.org (a free forum
software) for use with this forum. The Guild of One-Name Studies
recently added this type of forum to its member services/resources. It
is a clean system with a topic-based layout. Members of the forum are
able to post by topic, attach videos, photos, screen captures, and
files. These are on-line so they do not download unless you choose to
download them. It may be something to consider as forums evolve over
time. Additionally you would not need to have posts in your email -
just sign in to the forum and look for the topics that interest you.
Tessa Keough
Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
Legacy Virtual Users' Group
One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland
Surnames - Keough, Murphy, Aylward, Kocevar, Lidman, Zagradisnik




On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net
wrote:

 Jackie,
 the last time we moved from a no internet neighborhood, and had to bypass
 nice houses without connections. Luckily we looked until we found a place.
 It is not as universal as some would think. This is in USA. Same problem
 elsewhere.
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Sun, 9/16/12, Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 1:04 PM

 Let me make it very easy because I used to be on the other end -

 There are still some 19 million Internet users (recent survey) in the
 United States that cannot get high speed internet access. For them,
 attachments can be a real pain. I remember one night on another list waiting
 almost a half hour for a message with an attachment to download - and of
 course, on my service, I had no other way to get to other messages until
 that downloaded. For many its not just a matter of what we would like to
 see.

 For some it is also a matter of fees - there are some people who still get
 charged for the amount of bandwidth downloaded. For them it can be a
 pocketbooks issue. It's not a matter of trying to exclude likes - it is a
 matter of trying to include folks.

 I now have my high-speed, but only because I moved.

 Jackie

 On 9/16/2012 2:46 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:

 Interesting opinions.  Looks like the plain-texters have it.  But wait a
 minute.  There are many of us out there that detest plain text in body or
 attachment, and I happen to be one of them.  To force us out of the picture
 smacks of unilatetral bullyism, and we wouldn't want that, would we?  Stick
 to what you prefer and like best.
 Â
 Richard / HTML Always
 Â
 Â
 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

 On 9/16/2012 11:40 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
  If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send messages in
  plain
  text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that would
  prevent
  attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?

 Nope

    Didn't it  used to
  be that way at one time?

 Nope

 --
 Tim Rosenlof
 Utah, USA
 Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED

2012-09-17 Thread Sherry/Support
It was introduced in v5.  You can find out about it in the Help file
for Events - when you're in the Event window, click on the Help
button.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net wrote:
 Jan,
 I could not find Event Clipboard.
 Remember, I'm using v.5, so maybe
 Event Clipboard is not available.
 I have found only Source Clipboard
 in v.5.
 JimS



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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread Sherry/Support
If you look at the LUG archives, you'll see this has been discussed many times.

A mailing list is by far the favorite choice of our users.

We have a site on GenealogyWise
http://www.genealogywise.com/group/legacyfamilytreefans  as well as
Facebook, Google+ and Twitter. They're not used nearly as much as the
mailing list.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone at Legacy considered simplemachines.org (a free forum
 software) for use with this forum. The Guild of One-Name Studies
 recently added this type of forum to its member services/resources. It
 is a clean system with a topic-based layout. Members of the forum are
 able to post by topic, attach videos, photos, screen captures, and
 files. These are on-line so they do not download unless you choose to
 download them. It may be something to consider as forums evolve over
 time. Additionally you would not need to have posts in your email -
 just sign in to the forum and look for the topics that interest you.
 Tessa Keough
 Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
 Legacy Virtual Users' Group
 One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland
 Surnames - Keough, Murphy, Aylward, Kocevar, Lidman, Zagradisnik



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Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread Ron Bernier
Quite simply, because there are those who refuse to follow
rules/requests.  I will repeat what others have said previously, if a
user refuses to adhere to the rules/requests, they should be given one
warning.  If the user repeats the violation they should be removed from
the list for a predetermined amount of time - I.E. - 1st violation 1
month suspension, 2nd violation 3 month suspension, 3rd violation
permanent removal from the list.  Unfortunately, the Millennia folks
would never implement such a system because they wouldn't want to upset
any of their customers.  There are several subscribers to this list who
have repeatedly made it clear they do not care what the rules of the
list are.  They insis that they will send their emails to the list in
any format that they want to.  Apparently the Millennia feel that it is
acceptable for the violators to cause potential undue hardship to those
who are on dialup and/or risk sending a hidden virus/malware to other
subscribers of the list.

Ron Bernier,
Woonsocket, RI


-- Original Message --
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 9/17/2012 10:48:26 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
Why should Legacy have to purchase software and increase cost when people 
should be expected to follow rules/requests.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 9/16/12, Ron Bernier 
ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net
 wrote:



From: Ron Bernier 
ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
To:
LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:22 AM
Michelle,

Legacy support has always maintained that there software
cannot block
attachments.  They always relied on users to refrain
from sending
attachments and/or HTML messages.  Finally thy gave up
on saying no
HTML because some users simply refused to follow the
guidelines.  At
least, they haven't caved on attachments even though some
users ignore
that also.  It would be really nice if they would look
into software
that can block/reject messages sent to the list in HTML
and/or
attachments, but it doesn't look like that will ever
happen.

Ron Bernier
Sent from my iPad







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Re: [LegacyUG] descendant report

2012-09-17 Thread Sherry/Support
There is no way to remove the locations from the Descendant reports,
however in Legacy Charting, you can choose to show the date only.

The address, phone and email aren't included in charts though.

You could create a Calendar List or Calendar Creator to create a
birthday and/or anniversary calendar and an Address List for the
addresses. Select Address Labels from the Books/Other tab and on the
Custom Size tab, select to print in a report format.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Maureen Supon mauree...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hello,
   Could someone please tell me if it is possible to print a concise report
 of the descendants of someone, including their name, birth date (not place),
 marriage date (not place), address, phone, and e-mail ?
   One of my relatives does this with other genealogy software, to keep
 everybody in his family up-to-date with all of their contact information,
 and I'd like to do it for another branch of living relatives.
 Thank You,
 Maureen



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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 9/17/2012 8:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
 the last time we moved from a no internet neighborhood, and had to
 bypass nice houses without connections. Luckily we looked until we found
 a place.

It really angers me that someone is driving down my street looking for
unlocked doors to find a way into their home. My network is secure,
however my neighbors may not be, leaving unknowingly there computer open
for others to look around and peek/steal.

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] descendant report

2012-09-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
This may sound dumb, but make a database with no locations entered. This might 
be how it was done. You could also [[ ]] all data to hide the stuff, but why?
Good Luck.
Rich in LA CA
 

--- On Mon, 9/17/12, Maureen Supon mauree...@verizon.net wrote:


From: Maureen Supon mauree...@verizon.net
Subject: [LegacyUG] descendant report
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Monday, September 17, 2012, 6:39 AM






Hello,
  Could someone please tell me if it is possible to print a concise report of 
the descendants of someone, including their name, birth date (not place), 
marriage date (not place), address, phone, and e-mail ?
  One of my relatives does this with other genealogy software, to keep 
everybody in his family up-to-date with all of their contact information, and 
I'd like to do it for another branch of living relatives.
Thank You,
Maureen

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Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I was aware in the past of some users who were apparently escorted off 
permanently, but do not remember details. I have not noticed many 'refusers' 
since most stop before the third time. I don't police the list. There are 
others who do, hooray for them.
  Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 9/17/12, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote:

 From: Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net
 Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Monday, September 17, 2012, 8:30 AM
 Quite simply, because there are
 those who refuse to follow
 rules/requests.  I will repeat what others have said
 previously, if a
 user refuses to adhere to the rules/requests, they should be
 given one
 warning.  If the user repeats the violation they should
 be removed from
 the list for a predetermined amount of time - I.E. - 1st
 violation 1
 month suspension, 2nd violation 3 month suspension, 3rd
 violation
 permanent removal from the list.  Unfortunately, the
 Millennia folks
 would never implement such a system because they wouldn't
 want to upset
 any of their customers.  There are several subscribers
 to this list who
 have repeatedly made it clear they do not care what the
 rules of the
 list are.  They insis that they will send their emails
 to the list in
 any format that they want to.  Apparently the Millennia
 feel that it is
 acceptable for the violators to cause potential undue
 hardship to those
 who are on dialup and/or risk sending a hidden virus/malware
 to other
 subscribers of the list.

 Ron Bernier,
 Woonsocket, RI


 -- Original Message --
 From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
 Sent: 9/17/2012 10:48:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
 Why should Legacy have to purchase software and increase
 cost when people should be expected to follow
 rules/requests.
 Rich in LA CA
 
 --- On Sun, 9/16/12, Ron Bernier 
 ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net
  wrote:
 
 
 
 From: Ron Bernier 
 ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net
 
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
 To:
 LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 
 Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:22 AM
 Michelle,
 
 Legacy support has always maintained that there
 software
 cannot block
 attachments.  They always relied on users to
 refrain
 from sending
 attachments and/or HTML messages.  Finally thy
 gave up
 on saying no
 HTML because some users simply refused to follow
 the
 guidelines.  At
 least, they haven't caved on attachments even though
 some
 users ignore
 that also.  It would be really nice if they
 would look
 into software
 that can block/reject messages sent to the list in
 HTML
 and/or
 attachments, but it doesn't look like that will
 ever
 happen.
 
 Ron Bernier
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 




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Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread Sherry/Support
Ron, it's really not that many people who post attachments and it's
probably only because they didn't read the guidelines before posting.
And they generally respond in a positive manner when it's brought to
their attention.

We just don't have time to keep track of offenders like you suggest.

What bugs me most are those who don't trim previous posts nor the tags
that the list software adds to the messages. That's a heck of a
lot of junk to scroll through to get to the next message when they're
threaded messages in Gmail!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote:
 Quite simply, because there are those who refuse to follow
 rules/requests.  I will repeat what others have said previously, if a
 user refuses to adhere to the rules/requests, they should be given one
 warning.  If the user repeats the violation they should be removed from
 the list for a predetermined amount of time - I.E. - 1st violation 1
 month suspension, 2nd violation 3 month suspension, 3rd violation
 permanent removal from the list.  Unfortunately, the Millennia folks
 would never implement such a system because they wouldn't want to upset
 any of their customers.  There are several subscribers to this list who
 have repeatedly made it clear they do not care what the rules of the
 list are.  They insis that they will send their emails to the list in
 any format that they want to.  Apparently the Millennia feel that it is
 acceptable for the violators to cause potential undue hardship to those
 who are on dialup and/or risk sending a hidden virus/malware to other
 subscribers of the list.

 Ron Bernier,



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RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread Paul Gray
The problem with saying that the 'rules are the rules' is that one accepts the 
status quo forever. Change, positive change, can only come when people lobby 
for it.

There are situations, such as including screenshots in messages, where a 
picture is worth a thousand words.

This kind of controversy (often flames, not polite reminders) does turn off 
customers. And, dissatisfied customers usually just leave quietly and don't 
post about it, but they do pass on negative comments to their friends and 
acquaintances.

Although this list is still very valuable in its current form with its current 
rules, the internet is increasingly a graphics rich medium, and this list (or 
some other technical incarnation of it) would be better if some way to include 
graphics could be found. (By the way, telling is to go the Ancestry Legacy 
board isn't a solution, by default you are admitting they have a better 
technology).

Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: September-17-12 9:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

Quite simply, because there are those who refuse to follow rules/requests.  I 
will repeat what others have said previously, if a user refuses to adhere to 
the rules/requests, they should be given one warning.  If the user repeats the 
violation they should be removed from the list for a predetermined amount of 
time - I.E. - 1st violation 1 month suspension, 2nd violation 3 month 
suspension, 3rd violation permanent removal from the list.  Unfortunately, 
the Millennia folks would never implement such a system because they wouldn't 
want to upset any of their customers.  There are several subscribers to this 
list who have repeatedly made it clear they do not care what the rules of the 
list are.  They insis that they will send their emails to the list in any 
format that they want to.  Apparently the Millennia feel that it is acceptable 
for the violators to cause potential undue hardship to those who are on dialup 
and/or risk sending a hidden virus/malware to other subscribers of the list.

Ron Bernier,
Woonsocket, RI





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RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
When I have been asked to allow a large poating to ME (not group) I do
so. I will help anyone I can. It is not hard to ask permission for one on one 
contact. Sending 'large' may hurt someone inadvertantly, and never get 
mentioned, because they permenantly stay away. Easier to follow the rules
Rich in LA CA .


--- On Mon, 9/17/12, Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net wrote:

 From: Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Monday, September 17, 2012, 9:05 AM
 The problem with saying that the
 'rules are the rules' is that one accepts the status quo
 forever. Change, positive change, can only come when people
 lobby for it.

 There are situations, such as including screenshots in
 messages, where a picture is worth a thousand words.

 This kind of controversy (often flames, not polite
 reminders) does turn off customers. And, dissatisfied
 customers usually just leave quietly and don't post about
 it, but they do pass on negative comments to their friends
 and acquaintances.

 Although this list is still very valuable in its current
 form with its current rules, the internet is increasingly a
 graphics rich medium, and this list (or some other technical
 incarnation of it) would be better if some way to include
 graphics could be found. (By the way, telling is to go the
 Ancestry Legacy board isn't a solution, by default you are
 admitting they have a better technology).

 Paul Gray



 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
 Sent: September-17-12 9:31 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

 Quite simply, because there are those who refuse to
 follow rules/requests.  I will repeat what others have
 said previously, if a user refuses to adhere to the
 rules/requests, they should be given one warning.  If
 the user repeats the violation they should be removed from
 the list for a predetermined amount of time - I.E. - 1st
 violation 1 month suspension, 2nd violation 3 month
 suspension, 3rd violation permanent removal from the
 list.  Unfortunately, the Millennia folks would never
 implement such a system because they wouldn't want to upset
 any of their customers.  There are several subscribers
 to this list who have repeatedly made it clear they do not
 care what the rules of the list are.  They insis that
 they will send their emails to the list in any format that
 they want to.  Apparently the Millennia feel that it is
 acceptable for the violators to cause potential undue
 hardship to those who are on dialup and/or risk sending a
 hidden virus/malware to other subscribers of the list.

 Ron Bernier,
 Woonsocket, RI





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Re: [LegacyUG] descendant report

2012-09-17 Thread Brian/Support
1. Do you need the people organized into generations? If so then
Sherry's response is correct.

2. If you do not care how the report is sorted you can create a report
of the descendants which includes the data you want on each person. The
sort order can be RIN, Surname or Given names.

Use Search  Find  Miscellaneous Search Tab
Select Focus Group then click on the View/Select Focus Group Button
Use clear list to remove any existing focus group definitions
Use the Add Individual and Descendants button
Use the change button to select the head of the line you want to have in
the report
Select the Descendants Option not the Entire Descendant line and the
number of generations
Click OK

NOTE: If there is more than one head of line that you want in the branch
you can repeat this to select those other heads. The focus group will
then include all the lines you select.

When you have finished selecting your focus group(s) click OK
Click Create List
Sort the list by RIN. Given Name or Surname by clicking on the labels or
in the boxes at the top of the screen.
Click Print
In the List report options you can select the data you want to include
as up to three rows.
If you have difficulty or questions at any stage press F1 or use the
help button on the screen for more information.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 17/09/2012 09:39, Maureen Supon wrote:
 Hello,
Could someone please tell me if it is possible to print a concise report 
 of the descendants of someone, including their name, birth date (not place), 
 marriage date (not place), address, phone, and e-mail ?
One of my relatives does this with other genealogy software, to keep 
 everybody in his family up-to-date with all of their contact information, and 
 I'd like to do it for another branch of living relatives.
 Thank You,
 Maureen
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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

2012-09-17 Thread Tessa Keough
Sherry (and others)

Saw your response and I took a quick look at Legacy's Google+ Page and
Facebook Page. Both seem to be used to advertise the Legacy product
and webinars (nothing wrong with that). Just saying it does not appear
to be set up for or include the give and take that a forum has. Not
sure why as several other Google+ pages have lots of interaction. If
it is because anyone going to the site only sees posts about webinars,
they might consider that this method of communication is a one-way
street.

I get that a company only has so much time to invest in social media
and user forums. I was simply suggesting a method that allowed for
attachments and topic headers without clogging up someone's email
account and/or what some might consider an updated version of a forum.
I also took a look at the site you referenced - Genealogywise. It
appears to be a website with lots of ads and requires membership. That
is not really the same thing as a users' forum. But I did get the gist
of your response - previous discussions have been had, change is not
in the offing. Got it.

Appreciate the webinars and the product. Thanks

Tessa Keough
Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
Legacy Virtual Users' Group
One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland



On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Sherry/Support
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 If you look at the LUG archives, you'll see this has been discussed many 
 times.

SNIP
 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree




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Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED

2012-09-17 Thread Karen and Jim
Thanks Jan.
You instructions were very clear and I found the 2 icons quickly.
Doing this your way is 2-3 clicks faster than using REPEAT.
Plus I was missing REPEAT and clicking on CLEAR.  ;=(
I will try it.
JimS


On 09/17/2012 07:26 PM, Jan Roberts wrote:
 If you are in the Add Event Screen you will see two little icons beneath the 
 buttons for Save / Cancel / Spell Check etc.  They are the same icons as you 
 will have seen for the Source Clipboard.  I am pretty sure they have always 
 been there, but as I am on Version 7 it is a long while since I have used 
 Version 5.  Perhaps someone from Support could clarify.


 Cheers
 Jan
 -Original Message-
 From: Karen and Jim [mailto:sindbe...@att.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2012 00:29
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED

 Jan,
 I could not find Event Clipboard.
 Remember, I'm using v.5, so maybe
 Event Clipboard is not available.
 I have found only Source Clipboard
 in v.5.
 JimS


 On 09/16/2012 07:48 PM, Jan Roberts wrote:

 If you go to Events in the Help file in the program this is what you
 see - Using the Event Clipboard

To copy an Event to the clipboard:

1. Click the  button. [shows the copy icon - removed because this is
 in plain text]

To paste an Event from the clipboard to a list:

1. Open the Add Event window for the person or marriage you want to add 
 the event to.
2. Click the  button. [shows the paste button - removed because this
 is in plaint text]

 I doubt you could get much plainer than that.

 Cheers
 Jan
 -Original Message-
 From: Western Spirit Wood Creations [mailto:westernspi...@shaw.ca]
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 08:40
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many people - SOLVED

 There are many easy to use features in Legacy (and other programs) it is too 
 bad that help menus are rarely written in plain language that doesn't 
 require learning a totally new tongue to find something.
 Most helps don't help unless you already know what to look for. One of my 
 pet peeves.
 Bev M.
 - Original Message -
 From: Karen and Jim Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same event for many
 people - SOLVED


 On 09/16/2012 03:23 PM, Karen and Jim wrote:


 Hi Listers,

 Using ver 5 Deluxe.

 I would like to be able to auto-fill Events/Facts.
 When doing census for a large families,
 10 - 15 children.
 I would like NOT to have to retype the same thing again and again.
 I would like to automated this procedure.

 I would prefer to simply put my cursor in the Event box and paste and
 all four boxes would be filled.
 I would like to paste the following 4 lines as a single action:
 cen
 Living with parents.
 1930
 Helt

 I copied the above into Notepad,
 separating with tabs,
 but everything stayed in the first box, Event.

 Can this be done?

 JimS




 Thanks for your replies.

 They did not seem to answer my question, but when checking your answers out, 
 I found the REPEAT button inside EVENTS/FACTS.  It works beautifully.
 Just type the data in for the first person and click click ...  REPEAT for 
 the rest.

 Strange I couldn't find reference
 to it in the handbook for EVENTS/FACTS, but it is mentioned in ADDING
 AN ADDRESS.

 Thanks again for pushing me in the
 right direction.

 JimS












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[LegacyUG] Relationships in GEDCOM

2012-09-17 Thread Karen and Jim
Hi Listers,

Every so often I send my GEDCOM file
out to a free service which compares
it with others who have done the same.

What I would like to do is have my
relationship to my blood relatives
show up on the GEDCOM.  I.e., there
would be a note on my father's GEDCOM record
that he is my father.

Any suggestions?

JimS
Legacy v.5 Deluxe



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