[LegacyUG] Place Hierarchy
Legacy requires me to uase the City, County, State, Country hierarchy, and I am happy to use it if it helps. There are no counties in Australia or New Zealand, and the English counties are treated as States, which is fair enough. So the county field is always empty for me (except for my wife's U.S. line.) Then Legacy says that a U.S. county I am using wasn't there at the relevant date, although I can turn that off. On the other hand, in the U.K. I am told to use current locations, but the county boundaries in the database are those before the redistribution. Ancestry.com says that the county field is obsolete and requires me to remove the extra comma. I bought FTM, but it is almost as useless as the Ancestry.com Web site. It allows me to merge files, otherwise I don't use it. Is there a simple way that I can delete that extra comma? Doug. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Place Hierarchy
On 2012/11/21 12:59, Doug Laidlaw wrote: Legacy requires me to uase the City, County, State, Country hierarchy, and I am happy to use it if it helps. No it doesn't! That's a fallacy! Ignore the US-centric stuff if you're not interested in the US. And don't get too hung up on using the Geo Database - that tries to enforce the US style of naming locations on parts of the world that don't use it. Organise your locations according to how _you_ want to use them. You actually have possible 9 parts to a location; more than enough for any one. Just be consistent. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Place Hierarchy
Doug, I am not sure where you got your information from, so here are my comments: Legacy requires me to uase the City, County, State, Country hierarchy, and I am happy to use it if it helps. It does not require you to adopt this format, but if you don't certain functions, such as the geolocator will not work properly. There are no counties in Australia or New Zealand, and the English counties are treated as States, which is fair enough. So the county field is always empty for me (except for my wife's U.S. line.) It is not fair enough to treat English counties as states, the two are very different. England has counties and does not have states, full stop, period. It is, in my view, also incorrect to use , , because this will indicate something is missing - there isn't! Every country's locations should be written as the locals do. On the other hand, in the U.K. I am told to use current locations, but the county boundaries in the database are those before the redistribution. I haven't a clue where you got that one from, it is defnitely not the case. Locations should be written as they were at the applicable time. Extra commas and spaces can be removed by going to the location list and delete them. If you have too many I suggest that you use FindSearch/Replace for the Location field. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk GOONS #5307 Doug Laidlaw laidl...@hotkey.net.au wrote: (see above) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Place Hierarchy
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:11:01 +0200 Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012/11/21 12:59, Doug Laidlaw wrote: Legacy requires me to uase the City, County, State, Country hierarchy, and I am happy to use it if it helps. No it doesn't! That's a fallacy! Ignore the US-centric stuff if you're not interested in the US. And don't get too hung up on using the Geo Database - that tries to enforce the US style of naming locations on parts of the world that don't use it. Organise your locations according to how _you_ want to use them. You actually have possible 9 parts to a location; more than enough for any one. Just be consistent. Thanks Mike. The other thing about the Legacy database is its large minimum squares. I have seen it put places out in the ocean. Just in case somebody reading this has seen counties in Australia: In Victoria, where I live, the County is a Crown Lands unit, of no relevance to addressing. It is subdivided into Parishes. County Councils do exist in NSW, and they look after things like the electricity supply, but they are never used in the U.S. fashion. I have no experience of the other states. Doug. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Future updates
I want to ask if anyone knows of any up dates or improvements that will be coming in the near future in regards to the website creation feature on legacy? Thanks Rich in Cleveland Sent from my iPhone Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Place Hierarchy
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:22:40 + Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: It is, in my view, also incorrect to use , , because this will indicate something is missing - there isn't! Every country's locations should be written as the locals do. This was probably more necessary in the days before computers. Its other use is to make sure that the columns line up. It is fine where most of the places are in the USA, but I have only one family there. For a co-operative site online I use TNG, and its maintainer tries to make it compatible with Legacy. It uses the Google database of places, which seems to give no guidance whatever in formatting. Doug. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates
Rich, In my opinion quite correctly, Legacy never gives advanced notice of improvements, and after the problems of the launch of V7 I hope that they will never, ever, give even a hint of a date. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk GOONS #5307 Rich Falzini rfalz...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to ask if anyone knows of any up dates or improvements that will be coming in the near future in regards to the website creation feature on legacy? Thanks Rich in Cleveland Sent from my iPhone Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Future updates
Ron, With all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates Rich, In my opinion quite correctly, Legacy never gives advanced notice of improvements, and after the problems of the launch of V7 I hope that they will never, ever, give even a hint of a date. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk GOONS #5307 Rich Falzini rfalz...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to ask if anyone knows of any up dates or improvements that will be coming in the near future in regards to the website creation feature on legacy? Thanks Rich in Cleveland Sent from my iPhone Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Future updates
Of course I send the same reply, and I am surprised that you do not recollect the day after day of mail to this list for the 12 months after Legacy announced that V7 would be released shortly. I am afraid that on this occasion I will not be taking your advce and will continue to send the same post. Please feel free to delete them. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk GOONS #5307 Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org wrote: Ron, With all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates Rich, In my opinion quite correctly, Legacy never gives advanced notice of improvements, and after the problems of the launch of V7 I hope that they will never, ever, give even a hint of a date. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk GOONS #5307 Rich Falzini rfalz...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to ask if anyone knows of any up dates or improvements that will be coming in the near future in regards to the website creation feature on legacy? Thanks Rich in Cleveland Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates
On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote: with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made the mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several dates that they proposed. This led to a furore within this group, with a lot of people just asking When, When, When and displaying a lack of patience because of their raised expectations. The correct way of handling future releases, and Millennia is not Apple or Microsoft, is not to make sound until there's something concrete in the pipeline. And even then, the announcement should only mention a date that can be met with 100% certainty. Until then... you'll just have to develop some patience. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Future updates
Mike, I'll take a look at Legacy 8 if and when it is released, but I have already started the migration of my data to a program which I feel is/has outpaced Legacy's innovations (which have become very stale). I'll give Legacy points for their reports, but Legacy's GUI is definitely outdated. Legacy hasn't really offered any innovative ideas for quite some time. They touted version 7.5 as if it was a great improvement/upgrade - basically 7.5 added Family Search capabilities which some folks are/were interested in, but many are not. Of course (through no fault of Legacy's) most folks haven't even been able to make use of the Family Search capabilities until very recently. If you look at the various software reviews/comparisons, you will notice that Legacy still has a good rating, but they have definitely lost ground. Bottom line, no need for me to develop patience for an eventual upgrade that I really don't expect to offer any substantial enhancements/innovative ideas. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:15 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote: with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made the mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several dates that they proposed. This led to a furore within this group, with a lot of people just asking When, When, When and displaying a lack of patience because of their raised expectations. The correct way of handling future releases, and Millennia is not Apple or Microsoft, is not to make sound until there's something concrete in the pipeline. And even then, the announcement should only mention a date that can be met with 100% certainty. Until then... you'll just have to develop some patience. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates
The GUI is Legacy's trademark, IMO, and it is what I like best about Legacy. It shows 3 families at once in relationship, not just a list of names. One has to bring up an editing screen to change anything, but with others, one has to move to a families view to see the result. Each program has features which appeal to its followers. But Rich specifically asked about updates to the website creation feature, which I don't use anyway. The question probably should go to the company, not to a users' list. It is the kind of announcement that could be put in a blog. Doug, Indexing for http://www.ryersonindex.org/ On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:38:11 + Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org wrote: Mike, I'll take a look at Legacy 8 if and when it is released, but I have already started the migration of my data to a program which I feel is/has outpaced Legacy's innovations (which have become very stale). I'll give Legacy points for their reports, but Legacy's GUI is definitely outdated. Legacy hasn't really offered any innovative ideas for quite some time. They touted version 7.5 as if it was a great improvement/upgrade - basically 7.5 added Family Search capabilities which some folks are/were interested in, but many are not. Of course (through no fault of Legacy's) most folks haven't even been able to make use of the Family Search capabilities until very recently. If you look at the various software reviews/comparisons, you will notice that Legacy still has a good rating, but they have definitely lost ground. Bottom line, no need for me to develop patience for an eventual upgrade that I really don't expect to offer any substantial enhancements/innovative ideas. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:15 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote: with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made the mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several dates that they proposed. This led to a furore within this group, with a lot of people just asking When, When, When and displaying a lack of patience because of their raised expectations. The correct way of handling future releases, and Millennia is not Apple or Microsoft, is not to make sound until there's something concrete in the pipeline. And even then, the announcement should only mention a date that can be met with 100% certainty. Until then... you'll just have to develop some patience. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates
I disagree with belaboring a negative assessment of Milleniums' performance; especially at the Legacy 7.5 price point! Millennia does an excellent job in a small niche market with a steep middle-managent learning curve and with pretty limited resources. I expect some hickups, as long as it doesn't become the norm, and I want to make sure I always give credit where credit is due. Legacy 7.5 is a very good product at a very good price! I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again right now. ~Don On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote: with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made the mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several dates that they proposed. This led to a furore within this group, with a lot of people just asking When, When, When and displaying a lack of patience because of their raised expectations. The correct way of handling future releases, and Millennia is not Apple or Microsoft, is not to make sound until there's something concrete in the pipeline. And even then, the announcement should only mention a date that can be met with 100% certainty. Until then... you'll just have to develop some patience. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates
I remember the version 7 release (although not at traumatized as some Legacy users). I do think that with the advancements by other genealogy programs (most recently Ancestral Quest and RootsMagic), it would be nice to have some general idea regarding a newer version of Legacy. I think we all know that something is in the works - It would not require a date certain and it would not require the list of features, but it would be nice to know if we can expect something in the near or far future OR if we should be looking at other programs. I appreciate the great features in Legacy and realize that we have had some features that others are just now getting BUT there were some very interesting features introduced by others. I would like to know if Legacy is going in that direction or if I need to spend some time playing with other programs to get features that would be helpful to my research and publishing. There is a lot out there and we do know that these programs all try to provide the bells and whistles. I think this is a simple request - are significant improvements in the works or not? And if there is not something concrete in the pipeline now that pretty much answers my question. Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089 Legacy Virtual Users' Group One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Don Hendershot donald.henders...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree with belaboring a negative assessment of Milleniums' performance; especially at the Legacy 7.5 price point! Millennia does an excellent job in a small niche market with a steep middle-managent learning curve and with pretty limited resources. I expect some hickups, as long as it doesn't become the norm, and I want to make sure I always give credit where credit is due. Legacy 7.5 is a very good product at a very good price! I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again right now. ~Don On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote: with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made the mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several dates that they proposed. This led to a furore within this group, with a lot of people just asking When, When, When and displaying a lack of patience because of their raised expectations. The correct way of handling future releases, and Millennia is not Apple or Microsoft, is not to make sound until there's something concrete in the pipeline. And even then, the announcement should only mention a date that can be met with 100% certainty. Until then... you'll just have to develop some patience. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] No internet connection on start-up
Corney I am going off memory now as I am not on my PC. If you go to the Legacy Home tab in your program, on the top right there is an Options button, click on that, and somewhere you will find connect to the internet on start up - check that option. Note that you need to have IE installed on your PC even if it is not your default browser. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk GOONS #5307 Corney Keller corney.kel...@hetnet.nl wrote: Hello List, The subject of this thread may be a little misleading, but I could not think of another short way to put it. The problem is as follows: A week or two ago I installed a new modem for my broadband internet connection (combined with telephone and interactive TV, etc.) It works 100% and I'm very happy with it except for one small hick-up. When I start up Legacy (7.5), Legacy produces two text files containing the instructions and html-code to search for updates and to show the 'Legacy News' on the Legacy Home tab. No news is shown on the Legacy Home tab, only the text one usually gets when there is no internet connection Make sure you are connected to the internet and then click here to retrieve the latest news items. The first text file generated is named: Legacy7Update[1].txt and contains the following code: 7.5.0.208,14 September 2012,http://www.LegacyDownload.com/Download/Legacy7/www1/,Legacy7Setup.exe,1 4,47.7 The second one generated is named: news7[1].txt and contains the following code (only a snippet because it is to large): B|font color=#80uTalking Turkey ... and Family History/u/font|20121119|With the holidays approaching families will gather to enjoy turkey, Egg Nog, and tasty treats around the dining table, watch football and parades on TV, play games or just chat. While taking time for a conversation about your family's medical history will likely be the last thing on your mind during your Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanukah or Kwanza celebrations, recording this information could be the best gift you can give to yourself, your relatives, and your descendants|http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2012/11/talking -turkey-and-family-history.html etc. Unfortunately I cannot add a screenshot as the list etiquette does not allow it. (strange though that pictures and HTML-text formatting is allowed when webinars and Cd's for webinars that have nothing to do with Legacy are advertised on this list, and nobody seems to mind!!!) For the rest, Legacy connects to internet when I check for updates or select any of the links under 'Support' on the right-hand column on the 'Legacy Home' Tab. I've already searched the archives but could not find anything similar. I have not reinstalled Legacy. Thanks, Corney Keller Zaandam, Netherlands Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] No internet connection on start-up
Hello Ron, It was already checked, but I unchecked it and restarted and checked it again and restarted, with and without IE running (it was already installed). Still not luck. The files are also generated each time I select the 'Check the Internet No' under 'Options'. Cheers, Corney -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: woensdag 21 november 2012 18:52 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No internet connection on start-up Corney I am going off memory now as I am not on my PC. If you go to the Legacy Home tab in your program, on the top right there is an Options button, click on that, and somewhere you will find connect to the internet on start up - check that option. Note that you need to have IE installed on your PC even if it is not your default browser. --- Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk GOONS #5307 Corney Keller corney.kel...@hetnet.nl wrote: Hello List, The subject of this thread may be a little misleading, but I could not think of another short way to put it. The problem is as follows: A week or two ago I installed a new modem for my broadband internet connection (combined with telephone and interactive TV, etc.) It works 100% and I'm very happy with it except for one small hick-up. When I start up Legacy (7.5), Legacy produces two text files containing the instructions and html-code to search for updates and to show the 'Legacy News' on the Legacy Home tab. No news is shown on the Legacy Home tab, only the text one usually gets when there is no internet connection Make sure you are connected to the internet and then click here to retrieve the latest news items. The first text file generated is named: Legacy7Update[1].txt and contains the following code: 7.5.0.208,14 September 2012,http://www.LegacyDownload.com/Download/Legacy7/www1/,Legacy7Setup. exe,1 4,47.7 The second one generated is named: news7[1].txt and contains the following code (only a snippet because it is to large): B|font color=#80uTalking Turkey ... and Family History/u/font|20121119|With the holidays approaching families will gather to enjoy turkey, Egg Nog, and tasty treats around the dining table, watch football and parades on TV, play games or just chat. While taking time for a conversation about your family's medical history will likely be the last thing on your mind during your Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanukah or Kwanza celebrations, recording this information could be the best gift you can give to yourself, your relatives, and your descendants|http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2012/11/ta lking -turkey-and-family-history.html etc. Unfortunately I cannot add a screenshot as the list etiquette does not allow it. (strange though that pictures and HTML-text formatting is allowed when webinars and Cd's for webinars that have nothing to do with Legacy are advertised on this list, and nobody seems to mind!!!) For the rest, Legacy connects to internet when I check for updates or select any of the links under 'Support' on the right-hand column on the 'Legacy Home' Tab. I've already searched the archives but could not find anything similar. I have not reinstalled Legacy. Thanks, Corney Keller Zaandam, Netherlands Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates
Yes, we've got a lot of great things coming. No, I'm not going to give any hint of a timeline. We've learned from that. Programmers are working 18 hours days right now for us. They've been stuck on properly implementing a major new feature, but it's getting there. I'm excited about Legacy's future and feel you will be too. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com wrote: I remember the version 7 release (although not at traumatized as some Legacy users). I do think that with the advancements by other genealogy programs (most recently Ancestral Quest and RootsMagic), it would be nice to have some general idea regarding a newer version of Legacy. I think we all know that something is in the works - It would not require a date certain and it would not require the list of features, but it would be nice to know if we can expect something in the near or far future OR if we should be looking at other programs. I appreciate the great features in Legacy and realize that we have had some features that others are just now getting BUT there were some very interesting features introduced by others. I would like to know if Legacy is going in that direction or if I need to spend some time playing with other programs to get features that would be helpful to my research and publishing. There is a lot out there and we do know that these programs all try to provide the bells and whistles. I think this is a simple request - are significant improvements in the works or not? And if there is not something concrete in the pipeline now that pretty much answers my question. Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089 Legacy Virtual Users' Group One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Don Hendershot donald.henders...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree with belaboring a negative assessment of Milleniums' performance; especially at the Legacy 7.5 price point! Millennia does an excellent job in a small niche market with a steep middle-managent learning curve and with pretty limited resources. I expect some hickups, as long as it doesn't become the norm, and I want to make sure I always give credit where credit is due. Legacy 7.5 is a very good product at a very good price! I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again right now. ~Don On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote: with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made the mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several dates that they proposed. This led to a furore within this group, with a lot of people just asking When, When, When and displaying a lack of patience because of their raised expectations. The correct way of handling future releases, and Millennia is not Apple or Microsoft, is not to make sound until there's something concrete in the pipeline. And even then, the announcement should only mention a date that can be met with 100% certainty. Until then... you'll just have to develop some patience. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on
RE: [LegacyUG] Future updates
This is helpful as many of us buy ancillary programs that work with the current Legacy version. If a new one is coming, we may hold off buying until the ancillary program will work with the new Legacy. Wish there were a way to run two versions of Legacy, because then one could still use the ancillary programs until those have a version to work with a new Legacy version. Sadly, once you convert your data to a new version, even an update, it no longer works with the previous version or prior update. That means entering new data twice, once in the older version and once in the newer version, assuming one could have two version on one's computer at the same time. CEFrom: ge...@legacyusers.com Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:36:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Yes, we've got a lot of great things coming. No, I'm not going to give any hint of a timeline. We've learned from that. Programmers are working 18 hours days right now for us. They've been stuck on properly implementing a major new feature, but it's getting there. I'm excited about Legacy's future and feel you will be too. Thanks, Geoff RasmussenMillennia corporationge...@legacyfamilytree.comwww.legacyfamilytree.com On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com wrote: I remember the version 7 release (although not at traumatized as some Legacy users). I do think that with the advancements by other genealogy programs (most recently Ancestral Quest and RootsMagic), it would be nice to have some general idea regarding a newer version of Legacy. I think we all know that something is in the works - It would not require a date certain and it would not require the list of features, but it would be nice to know if we can expect something in the near or far future OR if we should be looking at other programs. I appreciate the great features in Legacy and realize that we have had some features that others are just now getting BUT there were some very interesting features introduced by others. I would like to know if Legacy is going in that direction or if I need to spend some time playing with other programs to get features that would be helpful to my research and publishing. There is a lot out there and we do know that these programs all try to provide the bells and whistles. I think this is a simple request - are significant improvements in the works or not? And if there is not something concrete in the pipeline now that pretty much answers my question. Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089 Legacy Virtual Users' Group One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Don Hendershot donald.henders...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree with belaboring a negative assessment of Milleniums' performance; especially at the Legacy 7.5 price point! Millennia does an excellent job in a small niche market with a steep middle-managent learning curve and with pretty limited resources. I expect some hickups, as long as it doesn't become the norm, and I want to make sure I always give credit where credit is due. Legacy 7.5 is a very good product at a very good price! I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again right now. ~Don On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote: with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon. If you are not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails. You keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment. I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word. I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made the mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several dates that they proposed. This led to a furore within this group, with a lot of people just asking When, When, When and displaying a lack of patience because of their raised expectations. The correct way of handling future releases, and Millennia is not Apple or Microsoft, is not to make sound until there's something concrete in the pipeline. And even then, the announcement should only mention a date that can be met with 100% certainty. Until then... you'll just have to develop some patience. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
RE: [LegacyUG] How do I enter grandchild when parents unknown
You could always add a father named alternatively Father of (child) or Son of [name of grandparent(s)] Then just be sure to correctly link the grandfather to the father and the father to the child, which you can do in either direction. CEFrom: louiseboo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:54:03 -1000 Subject: [LegacyUG] How do I enter grandchild when parents unknown To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com I have a John C. showing up in two consecutive censuses in Scotland living with his grandparents. I have been unable so far to trace which of the children were his parents, in fact those 2 censuses are the only records of his existence. There are 2 possibilities for his father -- either would be old enough to father him. I have for the time being entered him as an unlinked person, but I would like to bring him into the family records. Is there any way I can do this? -- Louise Booth Puppet Booth Productions Hassle free entertainment for children and families www.puppetbooth.homestead.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How do I enter grandchild when parents unknown
Not to rain on your parade but there are other possibilities for his father. As we all know, genealogy is full of surprises. With that thought in mind, it might be possible that your “John C.” was the illegitimate son of a daughter and was given the family surname at birth and then not raised by the daughter but rather sent to live with the grandparents. I discovered one such person in my family file and I suspect there are many more out there. It can happen. Brian in CA From: Louise [mailto:louiseboo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:54 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How do I enter grandchild when parents unknown I have a John C. showing up in two consecutive censuses in Scotland living with his grandparents. I have been unable so far to trace which of the children were his parents, in fact those 2 censuses are the only records of his existence. There are 2 possibilities for his father -- either would be old enough to father him. I have for the time being entered him as an unlinked person, but I would like to bring him into the family records. Is there any way I can do this? -- Louise Booth Puppet Booth Productions Hassle free entertainment for children and families www.puppetbooth.homestead.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How do I enter grandchild when parents unknown
Brian has just rained on my parade as I was about to say the same thing. I have several cases of grandchildren living with grandparents in censuses and every one I have been able to confirm has been the child of an unmarried daughter. It was much easier for a young unmarried woman to find a husband without a baby in tow and so the child often stayed with grandparents while the mother appeared childless and single. If the child does not appear in the subsequent censuses, it may be as simple as the child dying young. However, they may have been reunited with Mum after her marriage and then taking the step-father's name. Or maybe the child is with the real father who has belatedly accepted responsibility. Some creative searching is called for. Look in the next census for a child in his teens who is with a family now, but wasn't in the earlier censuses. If after 1837, get the birth certificate, which may make mention of the father. Look under his name. Search the child's first name and place of birth only - this may bring up a corrupted spelling of the real name or a different surname which may be the one you want. Look for marriages of daughters - their censuses may contain a child born before the marriage. To answer your specific case, if John and Mary Smith have a grandson Jim, I give them a child Smith, no first name, and add Jim to him. Good luck. Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] put part of a tree
Hello everyone, Hope everyone is well. I want to take part of my family tree and put it on a separate family tree on ancestry. How do I do this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] put part of a tree
One way is to create a Focus Group - see Help on how to do this - then create a GEDCOM to upload to Ancestry, NOT that I have ever put anything on Ancestry. At 01:49 PM 22/11/2012, you wrote: Hello everyone, Hope everyone is well. I want to take part of my family tree and put it on a separate family tree on ancestry. How do I do this? Susan Perrett Melbourne, Australia English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, BOURCHIER-UK, post 1650, CHUDLEIGH-Devon, All, HOLTTUM-Kent,pre 1720,MARTEN-Sussex,pre 1660, OXENDEN-Kent, All. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
