RE: [LegacyUG] Switching fields in an event
Hi, Howard — Thanks for taking a stab at answering my question. The issue you faced sounds quite frustrating, and I’m glad you found a solution. Unfortunately, my issue has to do solely with Legacy, and not with its integration with FamilySearch’s tree. I actually had data that came from a FamilyTreeMaker file that was imported into Legacy — the import is already completed and there’s been too much work to go back to the importing step. But that’s how the information ended up in the wrong fields. Once I try to merge this temporary Legacy tree with my main tree (which I haven’t done yet, since I’m trying to clean up and standardize things), I will have a problem with this particular event because the format is so different from my regular Legacy event. There are two possible solutions that I can see — one is to create a new event, and rework all the sentence definitions so that these particular ones use the description field in a different way. The other solution would be to standardize the input of the data by switching the information that is in the Legacy event fields. My preference is for the latter. If there’s a way to do this from within Legacy, that would be terrific. If I need to use Access to switch the field information, I’m open to doing that (although I hope it would be fairly simple to do since I haven’t really used Access to modify my Legacy database before). cheers, Kirsty J From: Howard Cady [mailto:howardc...@q.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:05 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Switching fields in an event Kirsty, There is a work around for this error in LegacyFamilyTree, but first I will re-report the error and then give a work around example. My OS Windows 8.1, 32 and 64 bit computers, Legacy version 8.0.0.473 setup to connect to FamilySearch (FSFT) with remembered name and password. Some individuals in FSFT have under “Facts and Events” an entry “Life Sketch” e.g. William Scott b. 25 Sep 1801, d. 1 Jun 1880, FS ID# LWQM-F3Q. The Life Sketch Event’s description can be quite long and far exceeding 255 characters. When I try to share this type of event by downloading (sharing) from FS to Legacy on my computer Legacy stores the information in Table tblER and tries to store the description in a 255 character field tblER.Description rather than the proper MEMO field tblER.Desc (What a confusing choice of field names!). When the Description field overflows (255 characters) a message is sent to FS that causes it to instantly drop my internet connection and generate an OS Error on my computer. Until I have deleted the offending event I am not allowed to reconnect to FS with that person active. This error was reported to Legacy in September 2014 and a ticket for repair generated, but the error was not fixed thru version 473. I do not know anything about uploading a LifeSketch Event from Legacy to FS, but I have my doubts. THE WORK AROUND – BABY STEPS USING A COPY OF LEGACY’S SAMPLE FILE 1.Create an unattached male - William Scott b. 25 Sep 1801, d. 1 Jun 1880, FS ID# LWQM-F3Q. and select him in Legacy’s Individual Information Screen. 2.Connect to FamilySearch by clicking the FamilySearch tool in Legacy – should display 15 possible duplicates 3.Select the Share Tab – should display William Scott’s information - Legacy on the left and FamilySearch info on the right. 4.Find the “LifeSketch” event on the right (FSFT) side and click the share arrow to start the download to your file. This will bring up a screen “Select action to perform” with the right side showing “Legacy” information and the left showing “FamilySearch” with more than a screen full of information. 5.Use the Windows select feature to highlight the FSFT information and ctrl-c to copy the information to Windows clip board. 6.Close the FSFT window, return to the Legacy’s Individual Information Screen, and open the Individual Information Screen to add an event to William Scott’s information. 7.Add a “LifeSketch” event to William Scott. Select the Notes field and use ctrl-v to transfer windows clip board to the Notes field. 8.Enter anything you want into the Date and Place fields, but DO NOT enter anything in the Description field of this event. (Anything in the Description field will prevent connection of this individual for further sharing with FSFT) I do not know which event caused you trouble, but I suspect the same difficulty with any event that has lots of information in the FSFT description field. Howard Cady From: Kirsty M. Haining mailto:khain...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 5:00 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Switching fields in an event Hi, everyone — I’m hoping someone has already solved this problem and knows what to do. I have imported data that has information in the description field that I want
[LegacyUG] Switching fields in an event
Hi, everyone - I'm hoping someone has already solved this problem and knows what to do. I have imported data that has information in the description field that I want to be in my event notes field. How can I get the data from these fields to be switched automatically (and, obviously, quickly and efficiently)? Thanks for your help. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Yikes! new problem with pedigree-style webpages in latest build of Legacy 8
I’ve been working very hard to do a major update on my website, which uses Pedigree-style webpages generated by Legacy 8. Unfortunately, since I last published webpages in April, a new bug has appeared. I don’t know which build created the problem, but now living people show up with all their details in full view, regardless of checking the privacy options to hide them. It didn’t used to have this problem in the pedigree-style webpages (although it was a bit buggy in some of the other styles of webpage output). And, obviously, this will not do. I need a fix, quickly. My guess is that probably the easiest fix will be to go back to an earlier build of Legacy 8, if I can figure out how to do that. Thanks, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J www.hainings.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Announcing my new Legacy website...
Hello, group! I just wanted to announce the first version of my new Legacy-generated website — www.hainings.net. In the past, I have uploaded versions of my tree to various other places (Rootsweb, Ancestry, and even MyHeritage). For me, one of the best benefits of having your tree online has been finding cousins that I wouldn’t have been able to reach otherwise. However, recently I began to realize that because of various changes to the coding of Rootsweb’s WorldConnect, most people doing a general Google search on the name of a grandparent would not be able to find me even if that grandparent was in my tree. Sure, they can find me if they search specifically at Rootsweb or on Ancestry, but many new folks just starting out don’t know enough to search those particular websites. The solution to this problem — as far as I’m concerned — was to get my own domain and to do a website based on Legacy-generated webpages. There are other genealogy website programs out there — but they break down into two main types. The difference between the two types is whether or not you have pages of static material (how Legacy does the pages) or whether the information comes dynamically in response to a query. In terms of having lists of names that can be Google-indexed, the static pages actually work better for me. Anyway, I just thought I’d mention how easy it was to create a website with Legacy. Legacy did all the really hard work — generated the bulk of my pages — and I tweaked it a bit (courtesy of Dennis Kowallek’s LTools http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/what-is-ltools/ ), and did some hand-coding (with help from WUL https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WUL/info ). And the result is plain to see. I’d still hope for a few more improvements in Legacy’s webpage output (lifespan on the names in the family links box!!), but overall I’m quite satisfied with my new website. cheers, Kirsty Haining J Seattle, Washington www.hainings.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Possible bugs in webpages
Hi, Ron — Thanks for your reply and for testing the various webpage output problems. I have submitted a bug report on these problems. See my comments below (in a different-colored font for clarity) on the few points where you needed further explanation or were unable to confirm the same results. All other sections have been snipped: (1) In Individual-Style Website pages — * For many couples, events print on one spouse, with notes attached and event pictures, but on the other spouse the events only show up in the event note portion, and so attached images do not display. I cannot assess this, it may depend on the type of Event – marriage or individual – please let me know where you attach your images. I was talking about individual events and noticing differences in the ways individual events were being displayed. Some of these were census events (not shared events, but duplicated as individual events if other individuals shared in the same census event), residence events, occupation events, etc. However, it appears my comments were somewhat mistaken on this topic. I have noticed a difference in the output on events, and I thought this difference in output was related to whether or not images were showing up in the output. By more careful examination, I see that the difference in output had nothing to do with the lack of images — it was simply a coincidence. The problem that I was noticing, however, is that on some people the Events print under a heading that is titled simply “Events” (with ruled lines above and below the word), whereas for others the events print under a double heading that is Events (with rules above and below) followed by “Notes” (also with rules above and below). This second Event-header Notes appears unrelated to the real “Notes” heading which follows the Spouse and children section, and prints out general notes, birth notes, etc. (as I have chosen in my output options). I was noticing the difference in the Event header almost every other person — for a while I thought it was gender-related, but it was not as simple as that. If one spouse had one style of heading for events, the other almost always had the other style. When I first saw this happening, coupled with the discrepancy in images (which turned out to be completely coincidental), I thought what I was seeing was the output of events for one individual and event notes only for the other individuals. In fact, as I examine it now, the only difference appears to be in how the section is titled. However, I have noticed that none of my sources on events are attached or printing at all. (New problem not previously noticed.) * On the name list, when alternate names are included, it appears that the main preferred name for a female is then omitted from the name list. (This may be a problem in other styles of web pages, too.) Mine includes both the AKA and Birth Name in the Name List – perhaps a settings question? When I check the setting for Alternate given and surnames on the What tab, I’m not sure what names are ending up in the name list. It’s certainly not all the AKAs. In some instances, an AKA replaces the birth name (the preferred name that shows on the main family page) in the index. That’s why I was thinking that the main name for a female was being omitted. It appears that the name list, instead of being generated from the AKAs, is simply taking one example of a particular surname with one example of given names, pairing them together, and moving on to the next surname for the individual. So instead of “Harrower, Alice Elizabeth” (birth name), I get “Harrower, Alice” or “Bishop, Alice E.” in my name list — but not also “Harrower, Alice Elizabeth” or “Bishop, Alice” — which are also names for this individual. In several instances for men, I found all the AKAs listed — but none of the name birth names. For other men, the reverse was true — the main birth name ended up in the index, but the AKAs did not appear. * If the option to “include the main name from each page as the page's title” (Project tab) is checked, then that individuals’ name displays at the top of the page EVEN WHEN privacy options say to set that person’s name to Living or Deceased (as the case may be). I do not have this option under the project tab –where is it? On the project tab of the Individual Style web page creation, about 1/4th of the way down is a check box that says Include the main name from each page as the page's title, followed by two fill in boxes for “Add the title prefix of:” and “Add the title suffix of:”. If I have this box checked, it overrides privacy options and a page for a living individual will have their full name listed at the top of the page. For that matter, why are webpages for living individuals printing with sources?
[LegacyUG] Possible bugs in webpages
Hi, all — I’ve been doing some testing on generating web pages from Legacy version 8 (version 8.0.0.414), and I’ve been seeing all kinds of buggy output. Can someone confirm that these are genuine bugs, and not just something funky with the way I’ve been doing my report settings? Thanks. Here are the issues I’m seeing: (1) In Individual-Style Website pages — * AKAs are all run together without commas to separate them (and without an and before the last AKA in the list) * Deceased spouses of living individuals which were set to display as deceased still show up with full name and details * Unable to change wording options for any notes, events, etc. * For many couples, events print on one spouse, with notes attached and event pictures, but on the other spouse the events only show up in the event note portion, and so attached images do not display. * Alternate name for a deceased child is showing up in name list (even though privacy says to show only “Deceased”). (This may be a problem in other styles of web pages, too.) * On the name list, when alternate names are included, it appears that the main preferred name for a female is then omitted from the name list. (This may be a problem in other styles of web pages, too.) * If the option to “include the main name from each page as the page's title” (Project tab) is checked, then that individuals’ name displays at the top of the page EVEN WHEN privacy options say to set that person’s name to Living or Deceased (as the case may be). (2) In Family-Style Website pages — * Unable to change wording options for any notes, events, etc. * Adds Title Suffix to the title of all family-report pages (even though that was left blank on the project tab) * On the family page for a living spouse with a deceased spouse (when privacy options are set to replace names with “Living” or “Deceased”), it still gives the full name of deceased spouse in the title of family group page, and then when it gets to the deceased spouse in the body of the page it says this spouse is Living. For children of this couple, the deceased spouse shows up with full name. * Deceased child shows up with all info, even though the option was set to change that to simply Deceased. (3) In Ancestor-Style Website pages — * Deceased spouse shows up in report, even if privacy said to change name to Deceased. (Shows up as “Deceased” on the living spouse’s information, but then shows up with all information on details when it is the deceased’s turn to be listed in the report.) (4) In Descendant-Style Website pages — * When privacy was set to change the name of living individuals to “Living” and to have deceased spouses and children of living individuals set to “Deceased” — in one instance, the second living child in the list (who happened to have two deceased spouses and a 3rd living spouse) had both deceased spouses show up in the descendant report as if they were the children of the living spouse. Not only did all details on the deceased spouses show up, but they showed up in incorrect relationship with the living spouse. Deceased children were also not hidden as they should have been (according to privacy options). cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Possible bugs in webpages
Ron, I am generating the webpages using the Internet option on the ribbon toolbar and the various Create Web Pages buttons (not via some reports menu). Thanks! From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:08 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Possible bugs in webpages Kirsty, Am I correct in thinking that you are creating HTML pages using the reports rather that Internetcreate webpages? If so I have not yet taken a look at those. If you confirm I will do so. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5
Here are a few examples where I have used multiple sources on the source clipboards (although very rarely do I need to use 5 at once): (1)I used to use one citation for a particular Scottish census. More recently, I’ve realized that I need to be more exact as to where the information came from. In a few instances, I have the actual image of the census that I got from ScotlandsPeople. In some earlier instances, I have the transcription that was provided by FreeCEN. More recently, I have transcriptions done by Ancestry.com. All of these different sources were referenced simply as “1841 Census of Scotland” but even though they refer to the same event, they are different sources. And sometimes that difference is critical. So… in fixing my census sources, I may have one, two, or even all three of those sources that were consulted in the course of my examination of this particular family. So I load up all three on the clipboard and paste away as necessary to document the family. (2)For a birth record in Scotland… I may have an old IGI record that came from transcribed parish records; I may have the new transcription from FamilySearch’s “Scottish Births and Baptisms” database; I may have the actual birth certificate from ScotlandsPeople. I also have a generic record called “Birth Certificate” which simply means (to me), that I have a paper or digital copy of the original record (regardless of what agency created the certificate). So I may want to have all of these on the clipboard at once as I document a person (or a series of individuals from a family). Now… do I need to document all these different sources? That’s another question… and the answer may be no… but on the other hand… for someone tracking my work… it may be easier for them to get a hold of one of those sources than another. And sometimes there’s a discrepancy … the transcribed record said one thing, the certificate says another. In these cases, sometimes it’s faster to apply all five sources, and just simply delete the ones that don’t apply via the individual’s sources window. (3)When I was new (and using a different genealogy program), it seemed too much effort to apply a particular source to every single fact that I had acquired from that source. So I made the stupid decision to simply apply the source to the person’s name. Now that I’m wiser, I see it is important that I know that the birth dates, locations, marriage dates, nicknames, occupations, etc. also came from this source. When I happen on these cases and am adding new sources to the person, I load up a copy of the old source from the name and paste away. Again, sometimes it’s faster to apply multiple sources and delete an occasional source from a particular field than it would be to load up each of these sources individually and apply each one individually to all the places necessary in separate passes. In sum, I find using multiple sources on the clipboards most useful when I’m fixing old mistakes. I’ve found it faster sometimes to apply multiple sources once, and delete the occasional one that doesn’t belong rather than do each one in its own pass. And, finally, once I’m done, I clean out all the other clipboards and re-set the main one to my default source. From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboards 1 to 5 CE, I am glad to know there is someone who uses this option and I understand it theoretically but am having trouble understanding how this works in reality. Could you provide a simple example of how you have 5 or more sources at the same time for any given piece of information? I really am struggling to grasp this. Maybe it would be something I could use if I knew how. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Suggestions for Locations vs Addresses?
Hi, Corey — I'm a bit behind on my LUG reading, so you may have already heard about this or you may have already come to your own conclusions on the matter. However... If you publish your family tree anywhere or for anyone, you might want to consider how the addresses might show up in your published data. I routinely publish my tree on Rootsweb (a free place to store lineage-linked databases). When I had my grandmother's birth location as On the family farm near Wapinitia, Wasco County, Oregon, USA or my great-great-grandmother's birth location as Back Street, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland — both of which are more precise locations — both would also fail to come up in search results on Rootsweb. Most people searching a database for someone are going to look for a city or town name, not a street address. Anyone looking for folks born in (or near) Wapinitia did not my grandmother; likewise, searches for people born in Kilmarnock omitted my g-g-grandmother. When I changed the address form to simply Wapinitia, Wasco County, Oregon (and put the notes about the family farm into the description field — likewise changing the other location to Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland), THEN my relatives would show up properly in Rootsweb search results. Now it's possible the searches have gotten better in the last few years than they were when I first started doing my addresses. But my point is... consider how bumping the town name up from the first sorted field to the second sorted field MIGHT affect things to places and situations where your routinely publish your data. If all you do is create reports for family members, and you use Legacy to create those reports, then I see no reason NOT to have multiple precise locations added to your master location list. But if you are exporting your data where it will be viewed by another program or source, then you might want to leave it so that in your master locations your first field is for town, second field for state or province, etc. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington :-) -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestions for Locations vs Addresses? Hi Corey, I put full addresses in the Location field, have done for quite a while now after reading about it here on this list from others who did the same - though I still have some in the Address field from before I changed my mind about these things - I'll get those cleaned up one day when I've got nothing better to do or it impacts on something I'm working on (ie, right now it is not urgent to me to do this). I don't see any problem with having a lot of entries in your Location Master List - it is very easy to manipulate the list to find what you want if it's not immediately apparent. Don't forget you're not restricted to four fields here - if memory serves (don't forget I'm blonde and my memory isn't always what I'd like it to be!), Legacy can cope with up to nine fields, and you can sort by any combination of them you choose. I find the right-to-left and left-to-right sorts are all that I need for most purposes, and these are quickly and easily set. With the right-to-left sort you can see all the locations in the same general area, and spot locations that could use a bit of tidying up - you may have a county incorrectly spelled or missing in one, for example, and it will stand out from the others by the way it has sorted. Using the Location field like this means it's easy to track where a location is used more than once. With street addresses, for example, it quickly becomes apparent when different members of a family lived at the same address, or nearby. Just this week I've also added ships to the Location field. One of my 2x-great-grandfathers served in the Royal Navy for many years, and I have a copy of his naval record which shows the ships he served on along with the dates of arrival and departure for each. I first started out entering the ship's name in the Description field, with a new event for each assignment, but I quickly realised this was going to result in a lot of duplication as he frequently returned to ships he'd served on before. With the ships, I edited the location's preposition so it reads on instead of in in reports, otherwise I entered the name of the ship along with a brief description of the ship and the years it served, so as to distinguish it from others with the same name should they turn up in any future records (eg HMS Cleopatra (C-class light cruiser 1915-1931)). A portion of his chronology report looks like this: 1888 Dec 1-1889 Oct 16 Military Service: HMS Vernon (shore establishment 1876-1996) 1889 Oct 17-1892 Oct 26 Military Service: HMS Scout (torpedo cruiser 1885-1904) 1891 Mar 9 Marriage (1): Malta. Catherine Catson 1891 Apr 27
RE: [LegacyUG] Customized searches
I’ve been having a problem with the Ancestry.com search in L8. For various reasons, I use the “Old Style” search on Ancestry.com. L7.5 would search the old style, no problem. But using L8, it switches me to the newer search style. Is there a way of re-writing the script so that it won’t do this? Thank you. Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
In Legacy v8Deluxe, build 367, I have the dark blue highlight over blue or red text (depending on gender) when right-clicking on a child (best-fit columns) in family view. It is not very readable, and would be MORE readable if the text color actually changed to white underneath that dark blue highlight. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA J From: 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:44 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour Sherry - the letters underneath are not white - they are still the same colour (either red or blue depending on whether it is male or female). John - I wasn't reporting an issue - I was asking if anyone else had the same highlight colour and whether I could change it at all. I have already reported an unrelated problem to Support who are working through it for me. This was just a query as to whether there was something I could change in settings. Obviously the blue highlight cannot be changed - now I have to work out why my letters are not changing to white when the line is highlighted as Sherry says they should. As I posted I am on .364 - the latest version concerned the Geo problems - the highlight and the non changing colour for the letters has been there since Day 1 and has no changed in each update. There are always teething problems with all new updates on nearly every programme - it is just a matter of sorting through what can be altered on this side of the fence. Marion Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single Double
Perhaps you can re-train yourself as the WHERE you are placing the single click? I was having trouble at first with trying to change focus and instead ending up in individual edit mode. Once I started training myself to click in the name area of the family view to change focus (instead of the vital statistics area), I stopped having the problem of ending up in individual edit when I wasn’t intending to do so. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking - Single Double David, You are correct. There is no need to click a highlighted person a second time. My problem with the touchpad is it very easy to accidentally open the Ind. View. A double click/tap would prevent this from accidentally happening unless I am falling asleep at night then all bets are off as to what might happen. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour
My email was not a complaint about “weird colours” so much as a confirmation that another user also has the issue that text color underneath a highlight is not white. In my case, I’m using Win 8.1, 64-bit, L8, build 367. This is happening in family view when a child (in best-fit view) is highlighted by a right-click. From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour Tell you what … Get used to the weird colours and I’ll get used to the weird clicks … OK? C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net] Sent: December 20, 2013 07:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour In Legacy v8Deluxe, build 367, I have the dark blue highlight over blue or red text (depending on gender) when right-clicking on a child (best-fit columns) in family view. It is not very readable, and would be MORE readable if the text color actually changed to white underneath that dark blue highlight. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA J From: 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:44 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v8 - Highlighted colour Sherry - the letters underneath are not white - they are still the same colour (either red or blue depending on whether it is male or female). John - I wasn't reporting an issue - I was asking if anyone else had the same highlight colour and whether I could change it at all. I have already reported an unrelated problem to Support who are working through it for me. This was just a query as to whether there was something I could change in settings. Obviously the blue highlight cannot be changed - now I have to work out why my letters are not changing to white when the line is highlighted as Sherry says they should. As I posted I am on .364 - the latest version concerned the Geo problems - the highlight and the non changing colour for the letters has been there since Day 1 and has no changed in each update. There are always teething problems with all new updates on nearly every programme - it is just a matter of sorting through what can be altered on this side of the fence. Marion Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Customized searches
I have resolved the problem by copying the search string from Legacy7 directly into Legacy8. For some reason or another, it didn’t work when I copied the appropriate *.cis file into the new Appdata folder… Using the old L7 search string will NOT change my default preset of new versus old search style. Thanks for the suggestion, though. It was because I was investigating your lead (although the search strings produced appeared identical) that I was finally able to come up with a solution. From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customized searches Kristy, What is the url address you have in the ancestry search ? InternetSearchselect Ancestry Customized SearchesSelect Ancestry scroll and select Ancestry Copy the URL search String Depending on what you have there it may be possible to enter that as your search string in Legacy Ver 8. Jay On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Kirsty M. Haining khain...@comcast.net wrote: I’ve been having a problem with the Ancestry.com search in L8. For various reasons, I use the “Old Style” search on Ancestry.com. L7.5 would search the old style, no problem. But using L8, it switches me to the newer search style. Is there a way of re-writing the script so that it won’t do this? Thank you. Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] possible bug direct line bolding
I’m not sure if this is a bug in Legacy 8 or not. I noticed today that the direct line bolding for one of my ancestors did not show up if that ancestor happened to be in the “half kid” position. In other words, I did not see the bolding on my direct-line ancestor unless both direct-line parents were in the family view. If only one parent was my direct-line ancestor, and the other parent was from another marriage of my direct-line ancestor (and thus the descendant, my direct-line ancestor, showed up in the “half kids” view), then my descendant/child/direct-line ancestor shows up in normal font (rather than bolded). I hope I’m being clear in my description. Is this a new bug? Btw, I no longer have a file that I can test to see if this also happened in Legacy 7.5. Thanks, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] possible bug direct line bolding
I just found an instance where the bolding WAS working in the half-kid position, so this is not happening consistently every time… From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 9:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] possible bug direct line bolding I’m not sure if this is a bug in Legacy 8 or not. I noticed today that the direct line bolding for one of my ancestors did not show up if that ancestor happened to be in the “half kid” position. In other words, I did not see the bolding on my direct-line ancestor unless both direct-line parents were in the family view. If only one parent was my direct-line ancestor, and the other parent was from another marriage of my direct-line ancestor (and thus the descendant, my direct-line ancestor, showed up in the “half kids” view), then my descendant/child/direct-line ancestor shows up in normal font (rather than bolded). I hope I’m being clear in my description. Is this a new bug? Btw, I no longer have a file that I can test to see if this also happened in Legacy 7.5. Thanks, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Gedcom import fails with error 3021
I'm having trouble importing a gedcom (in 5.51 format) into a new file in Legacy version 8. After it goes through reading the gedcom, it asks about an autosource, and then it gives me a 3021 error (even though this is a completely new Legacy file, with no previous records that could have been corrupted). It asks if I want to try again, it fails. If I say no, don't try again, it says do I want to try an gedcom import again.. if I say yes, it says gedcom import cancelled by user. Whatever options I try, it fails to import the gedcom file. I had a similar problem back in version 7.5, but I was able to get around it then. Sometimes just exiting Legacy and reopening would solve the problem; sometimes the problem seemed to be that there WERE no previous sources. So if I created a dummy record and added a source or two, then the program was happy and it could do the import. Now it just fails, regardless. Help, anyone? Thanks, Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA P.S. It just failed again... the exact error message is: Error saving Source. Error 3021: No current record. (Note the cause of this error is often fixed by doing File File Maintenance Check/Repair... on the family file.) Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN? P.P.S. I just tried again after changing my file options to NOT ask for an autosource, but it didn't make any difference. It still failed. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
Don, I’m confused a bit. If you’re looking at an image file of a document, are you saying that this image could be bogus because it’s not the actual paper document? Maybe I didn’t go to the courthouse, but I have a digital photocopy of the document that I am looking at. Why is this not sufficient for “what I, myself, know”? Thanks, Kirsty J From: Don Hanson [mailto:terra...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:34 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions Kirsty, I source what I, myself, know. In this case, the source of your evidence is the person who supplied the info. I would note where you might find the original, so that you or another researcher could more easily view it first-hand. But you did not personally view the source document. You aren’t even sure that the person supplying it did. For me, a source documents the source of the information that I used to reach a conclusion. Everything else goes into determining the quality of that source. For some facts, I may not want to have better sources. I may not be able to justify the expense, or maybe a better quality source doesn’t exist. So, for my purposes, the source is what I used, not what I could have used. The ‘coulda, shoulda, woulda goes into notes. Don From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 5:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions Don — Thank you for this thoughtful response. It helps clarify some issues in my mind. It sounds like, in my specific situation, you would advocate sourcing the person who supplied the vital certificate rather than the entity that created or holds those certificates. This is opposite what Jenny was saying she does — in the example you used, Jenny would (if I understand her correctly) source the birth certificate’s issuing agency and then comment that she received the image of the birth certificate from Sarah Rubenstein by email who said she got it from her professional genealogist who visited xyz County Courthouse in the Summer of 2010). The actual style of sourcing, then, seems like one of those stylistic choices that a genealogist will choose and then hopefully stick with consistently (like burial notes versus cemetery event). Your comments on “form” versus “substance” and the purpose being to help another person find that same information are also helpful. I think I can sometimes get bogged down worrying over the “right” way to do something, when what’s most important is that the information is communicated. It seems like every year or two I’m updating the way I handle sources; they become more and more precise. (And I always vow that one of these days I’m going to have to go back and fix the incomplete sourcing I did back when I was first getting started.) I felt confused about what to do earlier today, but now I feel more confident in the choices I’ll end up making for my particular sourcing situations. Thank you for your response. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Media management within Legacy
Thanks for your input, Cathy! Helpful considerations. From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 9:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Media management within Legacy A couple of tips (or more ;-)) Decide where you want to keep the media you attach to Legacy and set this as your Default Media Folder - Options 6.2. If you decide to use a number of sub-folders, set the parent folder to the Default Media Folder If you use the Picture Centre, you need to move or copy your media to your Default folder(s) before you start attaching. If you use the Media Gallery for each person, you'll be asked when attaching if you want to copy the media to the Default folder (or on the Advanced tab - to another folder of your choice - eg one of the sub-folders). The Picture Centre remembers, at least in the short term, the caption etc you add to the photo. If you want to attach the same photo to a number of different people with the Media Gallery you can copy and then paste. This also copys and pastes the caption etc. The Media Galleries are easier to use. The Picture Centre is quicker if you are organised and have a lot of pics you want to attach in the one session. Note that it only handles Pictures and not other media types. Re attaching a picture more than once to the same person - I wouldn't. And I'd hesitate to add it more than once to a nuclear family if it's the only pic for an event and therefore the preferred pic which will be included in reports - awfully repetitive. Last tip - Legacy doesn't need large archive sized pics - I started off with screen-sized copies of my archived pics so they'd look good in a slider show - see View - Scrapbook if you don't know this feature of Legacy. The problem is that the screen now has a lot more pixels than it used to so I'm now adding pics a little larger but I haven't yet gone beyond 1024 pixels wide and probably won't. The file size gets too large for them all to be saved/backed up easily. I keep my attached media in Dropbox along with my Legacy backup files. I don't backup the media through the Legacy backup as its already backed up in Dropbox (and ontp external drives when I backup my computer). Have Fun, Cathy At 09:27 AM 10/12/2013, you wrote: For those of you who have scads of media files attached within Legacy and have created wonderful reports and charts and websites, I have a few questions about how you manage your media files. Not so much on your hard disk, but more within Legacy itself. (Since moving to Legacy 8 I've been taking some time to get re-acquainted with some of the features. Picture Center wasn't something I paid much attention to previously, but now I thought I'd make a more concerted effort to attach my thousands of media files to their appropriate persons.) So here are my questions: (1) When you have an image that relates to more than one event, do you place the image in multiple places? I.e., for a birth that also discusses the baptism... both places? Or only one? Or one in birth, and others in the sourcing details for both events? If you have the same photo in more than one event, and then have photos turned on in your report option, do you like the results you get? (2) Do you ever have multiple copies of an image attached to a person for any reason, and if so, why? Also, does it affect the way your reports and websites get generated? (3) Are there any pros and cons to attaching group photos to more than one individual? (4) Is there anything about the way you've attached media files in Legacy that you'd wish you'd done differently? and, finally, (5) Is there any advice you would give to someone who's just starting out with attaching media? Thanks, all! Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington :-) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
Bill — My question isn’t about sourcing information that was given to me that is TRANSCRIBED information; it’s about sourcing a digital image of an actual document (especially since the SourceWriter prompts assume YOU are the one who visited the repository of the paper documents). cheers, Kirsty J From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions I agree with you, Don. I have several email sources that I have to rely on the person who transcribed documents and hope they didn't add typos to it. I prefer to have a real source so I can transcribe it myself, but sometimes they're just not available. It's better to try to find a document you can read and transcribe yourself. I also transcribe all census records I find because many times whoever did the transcription didn't do a very good job. If you have any ancestors from the Washington, DC area, they have a great resource called the DC Archives, operated by the DC government, where you can get all kinds of documents and they'll even send them via email for free. If the quality is bad, they'll send them to you in the mail (also free). Their vital records office used to be terrible. They would charge you for documents then tell you they couldn't find it. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking
Brian — Have you upgraded to the latest version of Legacy? As I mentioned to the list previously, HOW you clear the potential problem alert can make a difference. Right-click to clear didn't work, but click did. I submitted a bug report a while ago, but I believe this has been fixed in the latest version of Legacy. cheers, Kirsty :-) -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:blr...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:54 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking I have the same problem. Can't seem to get rid of the potential problems, Tried all the options mentioned, still they remain. May be a glitch? Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking
Unfortunately, I'm out of suggestions — although it sounded quite similar, obviously the problem you're having isn't the same as the one I had. -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:blr...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking Hi Kirsty. I'm running Legacy 8, Full Version 8.0.0.358. I've tried, working with the potential problems feature, the red icon in family and individual view, marking as not a problem. When I click the red icon the screen opens to the problem, and I mark as not a problem, the problem disappears but the red icon remains. Some instances, after clicking the red icon, the PP list opens and says no problem found. Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] sourcing questions
I’ve been trying to figure out the answer to a sourcing question and have not been able to figure out the answer through the SourceWriter templates or through flipping through my copy of Evidence Explained, so I thought I’d ask here and see if someone else knows the answer. When you have a digital image of a vital record, the SW prompts you through the documenting the website source of the image, collection name, yada, yada, yada. You are also prompted to put in the date you accessed the website. So here’s the question: what if you received the image from a friend or family member? The birth certificate image or census image may originally have come from Ancestry or HeritageQuest or maybe even ScotlandsPeople, but YOU are not the person who accessed the website. How then do you cite the digital image of the record if you got it secondhand? As far as I can tell from the book, you’re supposed to source your source (the individual) as well as the real source of the digital image (the website vendor). I’m just not sure how to construct the source citation to show that. And what if you don’t know the source of your source, but you have a census image or a vital record image in front of you? And finally, once I’ve figured out the output format I’m supposed to have, how do I get that result in Legacy? Thanks in advance for the help. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
IOW, source the ultimate source (repository of the image), and comment the immediate source (secondary person who supplied image to you directly). In that case, SourceWriter works just fine. My question about SW in Legacy was BECAUSE there is no template for source from a source. I can do single sources just fine; it’s more complicated when you're crediting two sources in the same citation (which is what my understanding was the proper thing to do... but maybe it's my understanding that was flawed). Thank you for your reply. -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] And what if you don’t know the source of your source, but you have a census image or a vital record image in front of you? I usually add a Comment to the effect that the image was supplied by X. You can add a Source Comment or a Detail Comment, or both, whichever you deem appropriate. And finally, once I’ve figured out the output format I’m supposed to have, how do I get that result in Legacy? You don't need to worry about the format because Legacy does all the formatting for you. If you are using SourceWriter just fill in whatever fields are appropriate (*) and you will see a Preview of the output as you go along. This may also happen with Basic Sourcing but it's been so long since I've used that, I've forgotten! (*) Probably a good idea to remind people again that you do not necessarily need to fill in EVERY field, nor even worry about a field name possibly not describing the data you are entering into that field. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
Don — Thank you for this thoughtful response. It helps clarify some issues in my mind. It sounds like, in my specific situation, you would advocate sourcing the person who supplied the vital certificate rather than the entity that created or holds those certificates. This is opposite what Jenny was saying she does — in the example you used, Jenny would (if I understand her correctly) source the birth certificate’s issuing agency and then comment that she received the image of the birth certificate from Sarah Rubenstein by email who said she got it from her professional genealogist who visited xyz County Courthouse in the Summer of 2010). The actual style of sourcing, then, seems like one of those stylistic choices that a genealogist will choose and then hopefully stick with consistently (like burial notes versus cemetery event). Your comments on “form” versus “substance” and the purpose being to help another person find that same information are also helpful. I think I can sometimes get bogged down worrying over the “right” way to do something, when what’s most important is that the information is communicated. It seems like every year or two I’m updating the way I handle sources; they become more and more precise. (And I always vow that one of these days I’m going to have to go back and fix the incomplete sourcing I did back when I was first getting started.) I felt confused about what to do earlier today, but now I feel more confident in the choices I’ll end up making for my particular sourcing situations. Thank you for your response. cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA J From: Don Hanson [mailto:terra...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions Think of every fact (or event) that you record for an individual as something that needs to be proven ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’. Your source citations are your effort to build a case for a particular conclusion (fact or event). The quality of the source can make or break your case. It helps (for me, anyway) to remember the reason that you record sources. Your memory is not going to perfectly remember everything, especially as your tree gets bigger. You will find records with information that contradicts or conflicts with other records that you have gathered and you’ll want to figure out which is the most accurate. Sometimes you’ll discover that one paper trail is following someone who is not the person that you thought it was. Your source citations will help you come to a reasonable conclusion. Let’s say that you received an image of a birth certificate from a cousin who attached it to an email to you. The email may have said that she, or a genealogist that she hired, made a copy of the original document on a visit to xyz County Courthouse, sometime during the Summer of 2010. You could create a new Repository with your cousin’s name, say Sarah Rubenstein, recording her address, phone #, website (if she has one), and email address. If she is the source of several facts in my tree, I might create a master source calling it something like ‘Sarah Rubenstein’s research’. I would use that source and record the specifics of the email as they pertain to the birth certificate. In other words put as much as you can in writing, in a consistent way, so that you or others can follow how you came to the conclusion that a certain birth date is correct, for example. Unless that person can see the document themselves, what you or your cousin say is simply hearsay. The idea is to make it easier for that person to find the original document. In that respect, the ‘form’ is less important than the ‘substance’. Where did you get it? What do you know about it? You will have the opportunity to Analyze Source Quality on the Detail Information tab of the Source Citation detail screen. You add source citations on the same screen that you add events or facts to a person (click the paper/pencil icon in the middle of the icon bar below the general person facts or…click on the books icon to edit the Sources assigned to the person. Or…from the View tabMaster Lists dropdown, choose Source… As is usually the case in Windows programs, there are several ways to accomplish the same task. Use whichever is most intuitive to you. BTW, use the Help tab Help Index and begin typing the term that you want help with into the box. I typed sour and had a list of “source” related subjects come up. Don Hanson From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions I’ve been trying to figure out the answer to a sourcing question and have not been able to figure out the answer through the SourceWriter templates or through flipping through my copy of Evidence Explained, so I thought I’d ask here and see if someone
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions
I think the only thing challenging about eBooks is that the page number would be a little difficult to determine. They are still published entities. Just use SourceWriter for book, and choose the appropriate source — for an eBook, I'd choose CD/DVD and put eBook in the format field (probably modified by either epub or Kindle or PDF). Since page number depends on your font choice, I'd just be sure to cite the chapter and say something like p 5 ( 1/4 through chapter in a medium font) to cite a particular page. At least with Kindle format you have section locations that you can cite. -Original Message- From: Rick [mailto:africkkeel...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 3:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions This may sound silly, but I have been following this thread and decided to ask to see what I get for answers. How do you source (using sourcewriter) something from a Kindle book or other ebook. Often, the publication information seems to be missing. Rick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Media management within Legacy
For those of you who have scads of media files attached within Legacy and have created wonderful reports and charts and websites, I have a few questions about how you manage your media files. Not so much on your hard disk, but more within Legacy itself. (Since moving to Legacy 8 I've been taking some time to get re-acquainted with some of the features. Picture Center wasn't something I paid much attention to previously, but now I thought I'd make a more concerted effort to attach my thousands of media files to their appropriate persons.) So here are my questions: (1) When you have an image that relates to more than one event, do you place the image in multiple places? I.e., for a birth that also discusses the baptism... both places? Or only one? Or one in birth, and others in the sourcing details for both events? If you have the same photo in more than one event, and then have photos turned on in your report option, do you like the results you get? (2) Do you ever have multiple copies of an image attached to a person for any reason, and if so, why? Also, does it affect the way your reports and websites get generated? (3) Are there any pros and cons to attaching group photos to more than one individual? (4) Is there anything about the way you've attached media files in Legacy that you'd wish you'd done differently? and, finally, (5) Is there any advice you would give to someone who's just starting out with attaching media? Thanks, all! Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington :-) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Shared vital Events
This is not directly in response to Steve’s question, but more a comment on how the shared events function in general. Earlier there was some discussion about the shared event being a proprietary format, and what programs might or might not take advantage of Legacy’s codes. I didn’t pay a lot of attention to that discussion since it mentioned programs I do not use myself. However, for those of us who export gedcoms from Legacy to post a tree someplace else (such as on Rootsweb or Ancestry or published via another competing software program), the shared event will export solely under the name of the person whose event is being shared. I tested with a census — under the head of house’s census event it all displayed normally, but then following that event I got all the shared events for every other household member — but it shows up on the head’s page and not in the data of the other household members. This, for me, makes shared events useless since the census data won’t appear on the household member’s page in my Rootsweb exports. This makes sense when you think about it, because of the limits of the gedcom format. Still, I wanted to warn people up front in case they got excited doing a lot of shared events and only later found out how it might adversely affect their publishing. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Shared vital Events
Randy — the event shows up with the data of the individual whose event initiated the sharing (regardless of what role that particular person plays within the shared event). cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, Washington J From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 1:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared vital Events Does it show up on the person you begin with (who may be a son) or only on head of household? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Shared vital Events
Gavin, that is exactly what I’m saying. Using a gedcom export, the data shows up ONLY under the event initiator’s dataset. Keep in mind, however, that if you use Legacy to create your reports, charts, sharing via PDF files, etc. then the shared events should appear properly within the particular reports (according the report options you’ve chosen). The issue is with gedcom export.* cheers, Kirsty J *Or, technically, the issue arises anytime you’re using another software program to handle a Legacy file, be it gedcom or native FDB format. From: Gavin Nicholson [mailto:gavn...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:42 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Shared vital Events This, for me, makes shared events useless since the census data won’t appear on the household member’s page in my Rootsweb exports. This makes sense when you think about it, because of the limits of the gedcom format. Sorry I haven't looked at this yet but are you saying you shared an EVENT with two or more people and when you exported it the shared event only appeared against one person? If so, it doesn't make sense to me I assumed the event would just get copied to the other people when an export occurred? I agree if it doesn't work like this that is a major oversight. Gavin... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] v8 Bug: PP alert will resolve or not depending on click or right-click
I’m using Win 8.1 64bit, Legacy 8.0.0.356 With a pop-up potential problem, I am presented with the standard choices: Click to view details. Right-click to exclude problems. Shift-right-click to change problem settings. If I choose right-click, and exclude the particular warning message and save, the PP alert does not clear. If, however, I choose click and bring up the dialog box showing the problem and then select the button for “Mark as not a problem” the PP alert WILL clear — even though both options have the effect of ticking and saving the appropriate box in the individual’s “Exclude from Potential Problems” dialog box. When the alert did not clear (because I had right-clicked), I tried going to a different individual, refreshing the view, etc., but the PP alert remained visible. When I went into the “Exclude from PP” dialog box and found the ticked box on the appropriate tab (in my particular case it was for a warning of a birth too long after the parents’ marriage), if I CLEARED the ticked box, and saved, and exited, and then went in via the PP-alert but this time chose CLICK instead of RIGHT-CLICK, chose to mark it as not a problem, save, etc. … then the PP alert cleared. I did not try the shift-right-click option to globally change my alert settings. Incidentally, I found out this problem because I was reading about the UnknownName.txt file for exclusions on the PP report — but I am seeing NO alerts whatsoever for any non-standard names or characters in my name fields. I thought it might be because I had never formally run the PP report, but apparently that wasn’t the cause. Anyone know why I’m not seeing PP alerts for non-standard names, etc.? cheers, Kirsty Haining Seattle, WA J Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
