Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-14 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 14/12/2011 04:53, Lee Irons wrote:
 Now imagine that Millennia provides these first three enhancements in
 a future upgrade.  I�m all happy and use Enhancement 1 to paste an
 event with its source citation/detail to a family of 12 individuals.
 (Note, the current way I would do this is to copy the event to the
 Event Clipboard from the individual where I first created it and then
 open each of the other 11 individuals and paste the event.)  The
 event and its source citation/detail now exists as twelve different
 records in the database.  Three months later, I want to change
 something I have typed in the source citation/detail that is linked
 to the event.  I have to open the source citation/detail of the event
 of each individual separately to make the change so that it is
 consistent in all twelve places. This is a huge headache.  And I am
 currently living it with a file of thousands of individuals with tens
 of thousands of source citations/details with which I used the Source
 Clipboard liberally to paste common source citation/details on a
 regular basis.

I don't think I have yet come across an instance where I have needed to
make a change to multiple citations where I have not been able to use
Search  Replace.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-14 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:53:53 -0500, Lee Irons leeir...@cox.net
wrote:

Of course. Another way to accomplish enhancement #4 (and make a much more 
efficient database) is to reconfigure the data structure of the database so 
that a single source citation/detail record can be linked to any number of 
events in any number of individuals and marriages.  So, when I link a source 
citation/detail to an event that is pasted to twelve different individuals, 
when I go back to change something in the source citation/detail three months 
later, I only have to change one source citation/detail record referenced by 
twelve event records, not twelve source citations/detail records referenced by 
twelve event records.  This would be a major change to the way Legacy works 
(no more need for a source clipboard), and so would probably be a big pill for 
Millennia to swallow.

Not only a big pill to swallow for Millennia, but for the users who are
used to it working the way it does. When you change it you would have to
pop up a warning that it will also be changed everywhere else, and maybe
even have to offer the user the opportunity to break that shared
citation into separate citations (in case the user only wants to change
it for one individual and not the others).

I remember discussing this on the LUG in my 1st couple of years on the
LUG (and I've been here 9 years). It's probably not going to happen. The
best you can probably hope for is a better search/replace to make things
easier.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-14 Thread leeirons
I just mentioned changing the data structure of the databaseas as one way of 
accomplishing enhancement #4.  But there is a way to do enhancement #4 that 
does not involve changing the way the databse is structured, so I agree with 
you Dennis.

I have found the search and replace feature to be tricky to use (please 
everyone, do not turn this thread into a discussion on search and replace).  At 
any rate, my issues are not asociated with just replacing a word or two.  I am 
wanting to add analysis paragraphs to the comments field of all of my source 
citations/details.  Typing it in one source citation/detail and haveing it 
automatically update all of the other cource citations/details that are copies 
of it would save hundreds of hours.

The four enhancements I recommended are not really a new feature, but just make 
the existing Advanced Sourcing feature complete.  Also, looking at the database 
tables, it looks like these enhancements would be reltively easy to develop.  
Legacy does not need these 4  enhancements to keep many of its existing users.  
It needs these enhancements to keep some of its existing users.  But more 
importantly, it needs these enhancements to pull market share from Family Tree 
Maker and Roots Magic, its two biggest commercial competetors.  New users 
importing their data from other genealogy programs will need these enhancements 
to make cleaning up their data easier.

I see this as a business decision.  Low cost enhancements, big potential market 
share impact.

Lee


 Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:53:53 -0500, Lee Irons leeir...@cox.net
 wrote:

 Of course. Another way to accomplish enhancement #4 (and make a much more 
 efficient database) is to reconfigure the data structure of the database so 
 that a single source citation/detail record can be linked to any number of 
 events in any number of individuals and marriages.  So, when I link a source 
 citation/detail to an event that is pasted to twelve different individuals, 
 when I go back to change something in the source citation/detail three 
 months later, I only have to change one source citation/detail record 
 referenced by twelve event records, not twelve source citations/detail 
 records referenced by twelve event records.  This would be a major change to 
 the way Legacy works (no more need for a source clipboard), and so would 
 probably be a big pill for Millennia to swallow.

 Not only a big pill to swallow for Millennia, but for the users who are
 used to it working the way it does. When you change it you would have to
 pop up a warning that it will also be changed everywhere else, and maybe
 even have to offer the user the opportunity to break that shared
 citation into separate citations (in case the user only wants to change
 it for one individual and not the others).

 I remember discussing this on the LUG in my 1st couple of years on the
 LUG (and I've been here 9 years). It's probably not going to happen. The
 best you can probably hope for is a better search/replace to make things
 easier.

 --

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RE: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-13 Thread Lee Irons
Sherry got back to me on this one.  Here is what I came up with to try to 
explain it better:

Pasting an event to a tagged group of individuals (let�s call this Enhancement 
#1) would be a step in the right direction.

Enhancement #2, another step in the right direction would be the ability in 
Advanced Sourcing to paste a source citation/detail from the source clipboard 
to a new event to be created in a tagged group of individuals.  Dennis Kowallek 
has a tool in his LTools to create an event and paste it with an existing 
source citation/detail to a tagged group of individuals.  However, one must 
know the IDSX number of the source citation/detail from tblSX in the Access 
database.  So it would be nice to have this enhancement built into the Advanced 
Sourcing feature of Legacy.

Another nice aid, Enhancement #3, would be the ability in Advanced Sourcing to 
link a source citation/detail from the source clipboard to existing events in a 
tagged group of individuals which events have the exact same Fact Type, 
Description, Date, and Place. (Currently, Advanced Sourcing only links to ALL 
events of tagged individuals, which is only useful if each tagged individual 
only has only one existing event.)

Now imagine that Millennia provides these first three enhancements in a future 
upgrade.  I�m all happy and use Enhancement 1 to paste an event with its source 
citation/detail to a family of 12 individuals. (Note, the current way I would 
do this is to copy the event to the Event Clipboard from the individual where I 
first created it and then open each of the other 11 individuals and paste the 
event.)  The event and its source citation/detail now exists as twelve 
different records in the database.  Three months later, I want to change 
something I have typed in the source citation/detail that is linked to the 
event.  I have to open the source citation/detail of the event of each 
individual separately to make the change so that it is consistent in all twelve 
places. This is a huge headache.  And I am currently living it with a file of 
thousands of individuals with tens of thousands of source citations/details 
with which I used the Source Clipboard liberally to paste common source 
citation/details on a regular basis.

To help relieve me of this ongoing headache, hopefully Millennia will provide 
the following:
Enhancement #4 � Millennia creates an enhancement that allows me to change a 
copied source citation/detail in all places where it has been pasted at the 
same time with a single change and save action.  From the �Assigned Sources 
For� window of one of the individuals or marriages that has the source 
citation/detail pasted to it (or from the Sources tab of the �Name List� 
window), I would highlight the source citation/detail that has been copied to 
many places and that I want to change in all places, and then I would click on 
a button that says �Edit All Copies of Detail.�  The program then tags all of 
the source citation/detail index numbers (IDSX in tblSX) that are exact copies 
of that source citation/detail.  Then, when I�m all done making changes to that 
source citation/detail and click on Save, the change saves to all of the tagged 
source citation/detail index numbers, after which it clears the tags in 
preparation for the next time the feature is used.  Note, Millennia has already 
figured out how to recognize when a source citation/detail is exactly the same 
as another, because the reports feature is able to print a source 
citation/detail that has many copies only once in the endnotes of a report.  
Now, I�m just asking that Millennia use a similar capability to make changes to 
copies source citations/details.

Of course. Another way to accomplish enhancement #4 (and make a much more 
efficient database) is to reconfigure the data structure of the database so 
that a single source citation/detail record can be linked to any number of 
events in any number of individuals and marriages.  So, when I link a source 
citation/detail to an event that is pasted to twelve different individuals, 
when I go back to change something in the source citation/detail three months 
later, I only have to change one source citation/detail record referenced by 
twelve event records, not twelve source citations/detail records referenced by 
twelve event records.  This would be a major change to the way Legacy works (no 
more need for a source clipboard), and so would probably be a big pill for 
Millennia to swallow.

The four numbered enhancements provided above essentially go together as a 
package.  For those of you who use the source clipboard liberally like I do, 
what do you think?


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

I've been working with Lee on this and haven't figured out yet why entering an 
event

Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-13 Thread Paula Ryburn
Not that I haven't messed up and had to go thru this with a set or two of
citations, but I'm doing my best now to get the citation the way I want in the
clipboard(s) and add it all right the first time.  Then I'm moving on to my next
bit of research, because research is the fun part.  I'm also a self-proclaimed
recovering controlling perfectionist... trying to get myself away from having to
have everything perfect... reworking, reworking, etc.  So, I don't think I would
use these enhancements - or at least try not to be in the position to want them.
 I would rather the programmers work on new features, not aids for making
corrections.  Just mho.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



- Original Message 
From: Lee Irons leeir...@cox.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, December 13, 2011 10:53:53 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

Sherry got back to me on this one.  Here is what I came up with to try to
explain it better:

Pasting an event to a tagged group of individuals (let�s call this Enhancement
#1) would be a step in the right direction.

Enhancement #2, another step in the right direction would be the ability in
Advanced Sourcing to paste a source citation/detail from the source clipboard to
a new event to be created in a tagged group of individuals.  Dennis Kowallek has
a tool in his LTools to create an event and paste it with an existing source
citation/detail to a tagged group of individuals.  However, one must know the
IDSX number of the source citation/detail from tblSX in the Access database.  So
it would be nice to have this enhancement built into the Advanced Sourcing
feature of Legacy.

Another nice aid, Enhancement #3, would be the ability in Advanced Sourcing to
link a source citation/detail from the source clipboard to existing events in a
tagged group of individuals which events have the exact same Fact Type,
Description, Date, and Place. (Currently, Advanced Sourcing only links to ALL
events of tagged individuals, which is only useful if each tagged individual
only has only one existing event.)

Now imagine that Millennia provides these first three enhancements in a future
upgrade.  I�m all happy and use Enhancement 1 to paste an event with its source
citation/detail to a family of 12 individuals. (Note, the current way I would do
this is to copy the event to the Event Clipboard from the individual where I
first created it and then open each of the other 11 individuals and paste the
event.)  The event and its source citation/detail now exists as twelve different
records in the database.  Three months later, I want to change something I have
typed in the source citation/detail that is linked to the event.  I have to open
the source citation/detail of the event of each individual separately to make
the change so that it is consistent in all twelve places. This is a huge
headache.  And I am currently living it with a file of thousands of individuals
with tens of thousands of source citations/details with which I used the Source
Clipboard liberally to paste common source citation/details on a regular basis.

To help relieve me of this ongoing headache, hopefully Millennia will provide
the following:
Enhancement #4 � Millennia creates an enhancement that allows me to change a
copied source citation/detail in all places where it has been pasted at the same
time with a single change and save action.  From the �Assigned Sources For�
window of one of the individuals or marriages that has the source
citation/detail pasted to it (or from the Sources tab of the �Name List�
window), I would highlight the source citation/detail that has been copied to
many places and that I want to change in all places, and then I would click on a
button that says �Edit All Copies of Detail.�  The program then tags all of the
source citation/detail index numbers (IDSX in tblSX) that are exact copies of
that source citation/detail.  Then, when I�m all done making changes to that
source citation/detail and click on Save, the change saves to all of the tagged
source citation/detail index numbers, after which it clears the tags in
preparation for the next time the feature is used.  Note, Millennia has already
figured out how to recognize when a source citation/detail is exactly the same
as another, because the reports feature is able to print a source
citation/detail that has many copies only once in the endnotes of a report.
Now, I�m just asking that Millennia use a similar capability to make changes to
copies source citations/details.

Of course. Another way to accomplish enhancement #4 (and make a much more
efficient database

Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-12 Thread Paula Ryburn
Won't the Event Clipboard work?  (strong possibility I don't understand what you
are trying to do)
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



- Original Message 
From: leeir...@cox.net leeir...@cox.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com
Sent: Fri, December 9, 2011 7:45:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

My primary desire would be adding a source citation to a new event that I create
right after I create the source citation, followed immediately by attaching the
new event to the individuals to which the event applies.

My fall-back desire is to attach a common source citation to an common event
that is already attached to the individuals.



 Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:21:50 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:

 Your Add Events in LTools looks like what I am looking for.

 The way I read your original post, I was under the impression that you
 had already added the events. But if you haven't, then my Add Events
 should make your life easier.

 I also am interested in your Merge Basic to Sourcewriter Source.

 Read this first...

 http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg39390.html

 This is all my Merge Basic to SourceWriter Source does. Richard Van
 Wasshnova can help with this. I don't personally use V7 so my knowledge
 regarding SW sources is minimal.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-12 Thread Sherry/Support
I've been working with Lee on this and haven't figured out yet why
entering an event in one individual, sourcing it and then adding the
event to the Event Clipboard, which would include the source data and
any files linked to in the Picture Gallery for that event, wouldn't
work for him.

The only other thing I could think of was possibly passing on an
enhancement request to add the Source Clipboard to a tagged group,
focus group or search list of individiuals.

It's quite possible that I'm missing his point entirely!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Won't the Event Clipboard work?  (strong possibility I don't understand what 
 you
 are trying to do)
  --Paula in Texas



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[LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread leeirons
Through Advanced Sourcing, I would like to link the Source Citation/Detail on my
Source Clipboard to one selected event (identified by the same Event Type, Date,
Place, and Description) that is common to all individuals or marriages I have
selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Unfortunately, Advanced Sourcing
seems to only allow linking the Source Citation/Detail to all events of all
individuals or marriages I have selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Is
there something I am missing, or is this something that Legacy just can't do?

If Legacy just can;t do this, are there plans to have this capability in a
future release?

Lee



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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:37:34 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:

Through Advanced Sourcing, I would like to link the Source Citation/Detail on 
my
Source Clipboard to one selected event (identified by the same Event Type, 
Date,
Place, and Description) that is common to all individuals or marriages I have
selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Unfortunately, Advanced Sourcing
seems to only allow linking the Source Citation/Detail to all events of all
individuals or marriages I have selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Is
there something I am missing, or is this something that Legacy just can't do?

If Legacy just can;t do this, are there plans to have this capability in a
future release?

Millennia doesn't comment on future enhancements, but yours is the first
time I have ever heard of this need. Ergo I doubt if a feature like this
would have much, if any, pent up demand. But you can always submit the
suggestion to the programmers.

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[LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread leeirons
Through Advanced Sourcing, I would like to link the Source Citation/Detail on 
my Source Clipboard to one selected event (identified by the same Event Type, 
Date, Place, and Description) that is common to all individuals or marriages I 
have selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Unfortunately, Advanced 
Sourcing seems to only allow linking the Source Citation/Detail to all events 
of all individuals or marriages I have selected on the Which Records to Use 
Tab.  Is there something I am missing, or is this something that Legacy just 
can't do?

If Legacy just can;t do this, are there plans to have this capability in a 
future release?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread leeirons
Thanks for the response Dennis,

Millenia seems to have had a demand at some point for the Advanced Sourcing 
capability, otherwise we would not even have it.  Right now, advanced sourcing 
can be done for other individual attributes and note fields.  Quite a variety.  
It can even be done for events.  But when Events is selected, it attaches the 
source citation/detail on the clipboard to all of the events currently attached 
to each selected individual/marriage, which I'm not sure why anyone would ever 
want to do that.  It just seems like Millenia was on their way to doing it, but 
then just didn't finish the development before releasing the advanced sourcing 
capability.  And then they just never got back to it.

I have put the request in to the developers, but the only response I am getting 
is that they think I should already be able to do it.  I notice the developers 
occassionally respond to messages on the user group, so I'm just putting it out 
there to the entire group.

If this cannot be done and is not planned, does anyone have any ideas on how to 
have fewer clicks and windows to go through to attach the source clipboard to 
an event attached to mulitple individuals (or even the event clipboard).  
Currently, we have to click around to all of the individuals and paste the 
source individually to events or paste the events individually.  This is a very 
time consuming process.  Family Tree Maker 2012 has the ability to attach 
source citations to selected events from the equivalent of their advanced 
sourcing window.  Roots Masic 5 has the ability to share an event (with 
attached source citations with multiple individuals from a single window.  It 
just seems like everyone else is making this easier.  Why wouldn't Millenia?

 Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:37:34 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:

 Through Advanced Sourcing, I would like to link the Source Citation/Detail 
 on my
 Source Clipboard to one selected event (identified by the same Event Type, 
 Date,
 Place, and Description) that is common to all individuals or marriages I have
 selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Unfortunately, Advanced Sourcing
 seems to only allow linking the Source Citation/Detail to all events of all
 individuals or marriages I have selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  
 Is
 there something I am missing, or is this something that Legacy just can't do?
 
 If Legacy just can;t do this, are there plans to have this capability in a
 future release?

 Millennia doesn't comment on future enhancements, but yours is the first
 time I have ever heard of this need. Ergo I doubt if a feature like this
 would have much, if any, pent up demand. But you can always submit the
 suggestion to the programmers.

 --

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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:05:39 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:

It just seems like Millenia was on their way to doing it, but then just didn't 
finish the development before releasing the advanced sourcing capability.  And 
then they just never got back to it.

I can't read minds so I don't know if Millennia had plans beyond the
current version of advanced sourcing. I don't see anything to indicate
that they intended to go further.

It just seems like everyone else is making this easier.  Why wouldn't Millenia?

Like I said, I have been on this list for 9 years and don't recall ever
seeing a feature request like yours. There have been discussions
regarding the sharing of source citations, but this is not the same as
what you are asking for. And shared events have also been discussed.

***

If you can drum up additional support for your feature on this list ...
go for it. But Millennia will not spill the beans on this list regarding
future enhancements. The only way you might be privy to that kind of
info is if you are invited to join the Legacy beta test list.

***

Of course, there is always the option of commissioning an LTool. ;-)

Happy Holidays!

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
You say I have put the request in to the developers, but the only response
I am getting is that they think I should already be able to do it. 

In which case one would have thought they would have told you how.

Ron Ferguson
http://ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: leeir...@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:05 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

Thanks for the response Dennis,

Millenia seems to have had a demand at some point for the Advanced Sourcing
capability, otherwise we would not even have it.  Right now, advanced
sourcing can be done for other individual attributes and note fields.  Quite
a variety.  It can even be done for events.  But when Events is selected,
it attaches the source citation/detail on the clipboard to all of the events
currently attached to each selected individual/marriage, which I'm not sure
why anyone would ever want to do that.  It just seems like Millenia was on
their way to doing it, but then just didn't finish the development before
releasing the advanced sourcing capability.  And then they just never got
back to it.

I have put the request in to the developers, but the only response I am
getting is that they think I should already be able to do it.  I notice the
developers occassionally respond to messages on the user group, so I'm just
putting it out there to the entire group.

If this cannot be done and is not planned, does anyone have any ideas on how
to have fewer clicks and windows to go through to attach the source
clipboard to an event attached to mulitple individuals (or even the event
clipboard).  Currently, we have to click around to all of the individuals
and paste the source individually to events or paste the events
individually.  This is a very time consuming process.  Family Tree Maker
2012 has the ability to attach source citations to selected events from the
equivalent of their advanced sourcing window.  Roots Masic 5 has the ability
to share an event (with attached source citations with multiple individuals
from a single window.  It just seems like everyone else is making this
easier.  Why wouldn't Millenia?

 Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:37:34 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:

 Through Advanced Sourcing, I would like to link the Source
 Citation/Detail on my
 Source Clipboard to one selected event (identified by the same Event
 Type, Date,
 Place, and Description) that is common to all individuals or marriages I
 have
 selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Unfortunately, Advanced
 Sourcing
 seems to only allow linking the Source Citation/Detail to all events of
 all
 individuals or marriages I have selected on the Which Records to Use
 Tab.  Is
 there something I am missing, or is this something that Legacy just can't
 do?
 
 If Legacy just can;t do this, are there plans to have this capability in
 a
 future release?

 Millennia doesn't comment on future enhancements, but yours is the first
 time I have ever heard of this need. Ergo I doubt if a feature like this
 would have much, if any, pent up demand. But you can always submit the
 suggestion to the programmers.

 --

 Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming)
 http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools

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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread leeirons
I agree Ron.  I have twice sent followon messages to my ticket number over the 
past three days asking if it is something they would consider or not, and I am 
getting no response (after the initial response of , but you should be able to 
do what you want to do and my explanation that I can't).

I have brought up shared source citations and shared events in the past (I have 
been on here a long time, though I'm not prolific with the messages), but this 
does not seem to go anywhere either.  That is what I would really like to see, 
but in the interim, the ability to link source citations to selected events 
through advanced sourcing would be adequate.  Just trying to ask for a slight 
plus up of existing capability.

In my post, I also asked for an idea on how I could do what I am trying to do 
without so much effort required to click around.  But I seem to be getting the 
same non-reponse to this question as from Millenia.  Crickets.  I guess the 
silence is telling me that no one has figured out a quick way to link a common 
event to mulitple individuals in Legacy, or a quick way to attach a common 
source citation to selected existing events of multiple individuals.  Either 
way, Legacy users have to copy it once to a clipboard and then click around to 
open each individual's edit window one at a time.

The other two of the top three software packages seem to think it is a big 
deal.  Not sure why it does not seem to have any attention or attraction with 
Millenia.


 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 You say I have put the request in to the developers, but the only response
 I am getting is that they think I should already be able to do it. 

 In which case one would have thought they would have told you how.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk

 -Original Message-
 From: leeir...@cox.net
 Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:05 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

 Thanks for the response Dennis,

 Millenia seems to have had a demand at some point for the Advanced Sourcing
 capability, otherwise we would not even have it.  Right now, advanced
 sourcing can be done for other individual attributes and note fields.  Quite
 a variety.  It can even be done for events.  But when Events is selected,
 it attaches the source citation/detail on the clipboard to all of the events
 currently attached to each selected individual/marriage, which I'm not sure
 why anyone would ever want to do that.  It just seems like Millenia was on
 their way to doing it, but then just didn't finish the development before
 releasing the advanced sourcing capability.  And then they just never got
 back to it.

 I have put the request in to the developers, but the only response I am
 getting is that they think I should already be able to do it.  I notice the
 developers occassionally respond to messages on the user group, so I'm just
 putting it out there to the entire group.

 If this cannot be done and is not planned, does anyone have any ideas on how
 to have fewer clicks and windows to go through to attach the source
 clipboard to an event attached to mulitple individuals (or even the event
 clipboard).  Currently, we have to click around to all of the individuals
 and paste the source individually to events or paste the events
 individually.  This is a very time consuming process.  Family Tree Maker
 2012 has the ability to attach source citations to selected events from the
 equivalent of their advanced sourcing window.  Roots Masic 5 has the ability
 to share an event (with attached source citations with multiple individuals
 from a single window.  It just seems like everyone else is making this
 easier.  Why wouldn't Millenia?

  Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
  On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:37:34 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:
 
  Through Advanced Sourcing, I would like to link the Source
  Citation/Detail on my
  Source Clipboard to one selected event (identified by the same Event
  Type, Date,
  Place, and Description) that is common to all individuals or marriages I
  have
  selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Unfortunately, Advanced
  Sourcing
  seems to only allow linking the Source Citation/Detail to all events of
  all
  individuals or marriages I have selected on the Which Records to Use
  Tab.  Is
  there something I am missing, or is this something that Legacy just can't
  do?
  
  If Legacy just can;t do this, are there plans to have this capability in
  a
  future release?
 
  Millennia doesn't comment on future enhancements, but yours is the first
  time I have ever heard of this need. Ergo I doubt if a feature like this
  would have much, if any, pent up demand. But you can always submit the
  suggestion to the programmers.
 
  --
 
  Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming)
  http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools
 
  NOTE TO LUG USERS

Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread leeirons
I'm not asking you to read minds, Dennis. :-)  I'll look at your LTools website 
and get back to you. :-)

 Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:05:39 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:

 It just seems like Millenia was on their way to doing it, but then just 
 didn't finish the development before releasing the advanced sourcing 
 capability.  And then they just never got back to it.

 I can't read minds so I don't know if Millennia had plans beyond the
 current version of advanced sourcing. I don't see anything to indicate
 that they intended to go further.

 It just seems like everyone else is making this easier.  Why wouldn't 
 Millenia?

 Like I said, I have been on this list for 9 years and don't recall ever
 seeing a feature request like yours. There have been discussions
 regarding the sharing of source citations, but this is not the same as
 what you are asking for. And shared events have also been discussed.

 ***

 If you can drum up additional support for your feature on this list ...
 go for it. But Millennia will not spill the beans on this list regarding
 future enhancements. The only way you might be privy to that kind of
 info is if you are invited to join the Legacy beta test list.

 ***

 Of course, there is always the option of commissioning an LTool. ;-)

 Happy Holidays!

 --

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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread leeirons
Dennis, Your Add Events in LTools looks like what I am looking for.  I also 
am interested in your Merge Basic to Sourcewriter Source.  You sold me.  See, 
I'm easy.  I'm purchasing it right now and trying it. :-)


 leeir...@cox.net wrote:
 I'm not asking you to read minds, Dennis. :-)  I'll look at your LTools 
 website and get back to you. :-)

  Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
  On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:05:39 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:
 
  It just seems like Millenia was on their way to doing it, but then just 
  didn't finish the development before releasing the advanced sourcing 
  capability.  And then they just never got back to it.
 
  I can't read minds so I don't know if Millennia had plans beyond the
  current version of advanced sourcing. I don't see anything to indicate
  that they intended to go further.
 
  It just seems like everyone else is making this easier.  Why wouldn't 
  Millenia?
 
  Like I said, I have been on this list for 9 years and don't recall ever
  seeing a feature request like yours. There have been discussions
  regarding the sharing of source citations, but this is not the same as
  what you are asking for. And shared events have also been discussed.
 
  ***
 
  If you can drum up additional support for your feature on this list ...
  go for it. But Millennia will not spill the beans on this list regarding
  future enhancements. The only way you might be privy to that kind of
  info is if you are invited to join the Legacy beta test list.
 
  ***
 
  Of course, there is always the option of commissioning an LTool. ;-)
 
  Happy Holidays!
 
  --
 
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  http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
I confess that I have not tried to do what you wish, but before my last post
I did take a good look at the Advanced Sourcing feature and I cannot see how
it can be done at present. As I see it, to make it work it work be
necessary, for the Event box to link with the Event Master list so that
individual Events can be selected.

This might not be the only way, but it is one which comes to mind, and I
would have thought that this would not be too difficult to program - but I
would bow to Dennis's expertise on this.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: leeir...@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

I agree Ron.  I have twice sent followon messages to my ticket number over
the past three days asking if it is something they would consider or not,
and I am getting no response (after the initial response of , but you
should be able to do what you want to do and my explanation that I can't).

I have brought up shared source citations and shared events in the past (I
have been on here a long time, though I'm not prolific with the messages),
but this does not seem to go anywhere either.  That is what I would really
like to see, but in the interim, the ability to link source citations to
selected events through advanced sourcing would be adequate.  Just trying to
ask for a slight plus up of existing capability.

In my post, I also asked for an idea on how I could do what I am trying to
do without so much effort required to click around.  But I seem to be
getting the same non-reponse to this question as from Millenia.  Crickets.
I guess the silence is telling me that no one has figured out a quick way to
link a common event to mulitple individuals in Legacy, or a quick way to
attach a common source citation to selected existing events of multiple
individuals.  Either way, Legacy users have to copy it once to a clipboard
and then click around to open each individual's edit window one at a time.

The other two of the top three software packages seem to think it is a big
deal.  Not sure why it does not seem to have any attention or attraction
with Millenia.


 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 You say I have put the request in to the developers, but the only
 response
 I am getting is that they think I should already be able to do it. 

 In which case one would have thought they would have told you how.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk

 -Original Message-
 From: leeir...@cox.net
 Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:05 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

 Thanks for the response Dennis,

 Millenia seems to have had a demand at some point for the Advanced
 Sourcing
 capability, otherwise we would not even have it.  Right now, advanced
 sourcing can be done for other individual attributes and note fields.
 Quite
 a variety.  It can even be done for events.  But when Events is
 selected,
 it attaches the source citation/detail on the clipboard to all of the
 events
 currently attached to each selected individual/marriage, which I'm not
 sure
 why anyone would ever want to do that.  It just seems like Millenia was on
 their way to doing it, but then just didn't finish the development before
 releasing the advanced sourcing capability.  And then they just never got
 back to it.

 I have put the request in to the developers, but the only response I am
 getting is that they think I should already be able to do it.  I notice
 the
 developers occassionally respond to messages on the user group, so I'm
 just
 putting it out there to the entire group.

 If this cannot be done and is not planned, does anyone have any ideas on
 how
 to have fewer clicks and windows to go through to attach the source
 clipboard to an event attached to mulitple individuals (or even the event
 clipboard).  Currently, we have to click around to all of the individuals
 and paste the source individually to events or paste the events
 individually.  This is a very time consuming process.  Family Tree Maker
 2012 has the ability to attach source citations to selected events from
 the
 equivalent of their advanced sourcing window.  Roots Masic 5 has the
 ability
 to share an event (with attached source citations with multiple
 individuals
 from a single window.  It just seems like everyone else is making this
 easier.  Why wouldn't Millenia?

  Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
  On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:37:34 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:
 
  Through Advanced Sourcing, I would like to link the Source
  Citation/Detail on my
  Source Clipboard to one selected event (identified by the same Event
  Type, Date,
  Place, and Description) that is common to all individuals or marriages
  I
  have
  selected on the Which Records to Use Tab.  Unfortunately, Advanced
  Sourcing
  seems to only

Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:21:50 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:

Your Add Events in LTools looks like what I am looking for.

The way I read your original post, I was under the impression that you
had already added the events. But if you haven't, then my Add Events
should make your life easier.

I also am interested in your Merge Basic to Sourcewriter Source.

Read this first...

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg39390.html

This is all my Merge Basic to SourceWriter Source does. Richard Van
Wasshnova can help with this. I don't personally use V7 so my knowledge
regarding SW sources is minimal.

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread leeirons
Exactly. To me, it just seems like just a little extra that would go a long way 
in making things much easier.

By the way, by Event Master List, I assume you are referring to the Event 
Definition Master List or the All Individuals Who Use This Event Name list 
that one can get to through the Event Definition Master List?


 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 I confess that I have not tried to do what you wish, but before my last post
 I did take a good look at the Advanced Sourcing feature and I cannot see how
 it can be done at present. As I see it, to make it work it work be
 necessary, for the Event box to link with the Event Master list so that
 individual Events can be selected.

 This might not be the only way, but it is one which comes to mind, and I
 would have thought that this would not be too difficult to program - but I
 would bow to Dennis's expertise on this.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: leeir...@cox.net
 Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:01 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

 I agree Ron.  I have twice sent followon messages to my ticket number over
 the past three days asking if it is something they would consider or not,
 and I am getting no response (after the initial response of , but you
 should be able to do what you want to do and my explanation that I can't).

 I have brought up shared source citations and shared events in the past (I
 have been on here a long time, though I'm not prolific with the messages),
 but this does not seem to go anywhere either.  That is what I would really
 like to see, but in the interim, the ability to link source citations to
 selected events through advanced sourcing would be adequate.  Just trying to
 ask for a slight plus up of existing capability.

 In my post, I also asked for an idea on how I could do what I am trying to
 do without so much effort required to click around.  But I seem to be
 getting the same non-reponse to this question as from Millenia.  Crickets.
 I guess the silence is telling me that no one has figured out a quick way to
 link a common event to mulitple individuals in Legacy, or a quick way to
 attach a common source citation to selected existing events of multiple
 individuals.  Either way, Legacy users have to copy it once to a clipboard
 and then click around to open each individual's edit window one at a time.

 The other two of the top three software packages seem to think it is a big
 deal.  Not sure why it does not seem to have any attention or attraction
 with Millenia.


  Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
  You say I have put the request in to the developers, but the only
  response
  I am getting is that they think I should already be able to do it. 
 
  In which case one would have thought they would have told you how.
 
  Ron Ferguson
  http://ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 
  -Original Message-
  From: leeir...@cox.net
  Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:05 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event
 
  Thanks for the response Dennis,
 
  Millenia seems to have had a demand at some point for the Advanced
  Sourcing
  capability, otherwise we would not even have it.  Right now, advanced
  sourcing can be done for other individual attributes and note fields.
  Quite
  a variety.  It can even be done for events.  But when Events is
  selected,
  it attaches the source citation/detail on the clipboard to all of the
  events
  currently attached to each selected individual/marriage, which I'm not
  sure
  why anyone would ever want to do that.  It just seems like Millenia was on
  their way to doing it, but then just didn't finish the development before
  releasing the advanced sourcing capability.  And then they just never got
  back to it.
 
  I have put the request in to the developers, but the only response I am
  getting is that they think I should already be able to do it.  I notice
  the
  developers occassionally respond to messages on the user group, so I'm
  just
  putting it out there to the entire group.
 
  If this cannot be done and is not planned, does anyone have any ideas on
  how
  to have fewer clicks and windows to go through to attach the source
  clipboard to an event attached to mulitple individuals (or even the event
  clipboard).  Currently, we have to click around to all of the individuals
  and paste the source individually to events or paste the events
  individually.  This is a very time consuming process.  Family Tree Maker
  2012 has the ability to attach source citations to selected events from
  the
  equivalent of their advanced sourcing window.  Roots Masic 5 has the
  ability
  to share an event (with attached source citations with multiple
  individuals
  from a single window.  It just seems like everyone else is making this
  easier.  Why wouldn't

Re: [LegacyUG] Advanced Sourcing to One Selected Event

2011-12-09 Thread leeirons
My primary desire would be adding a source citation to a new event that I 
create right after I create the source citation, followed immediately by 
attaching the new event to the individuals to which the event applies.

My fall-back desire is to attach a common source citation to an common event 
that is already attached to the individuals.



 Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:21:50 -0500, leeir...@cox.net wrote:

 Your Add Events in LTools looks like what I am looking for.

 The way I read your original post, I was under the impression that you
 had already added the events. But if you haven't, then my Add Events
 should make your life easier.

 I also am interested in your Merge Basic to Sourcewriter Source.

 Read this first...

 http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg39390.html

 This is all my Merge Basic to SourceWriter Source does. Richard Van
 Wasshnova can help with this. I don't personally use V7 so my knowledge
 regarding SW sources is minimal.

 --

 Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming)
 http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools

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