Re: [LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS

2019-04-10 Thread Cynthia N. Russell
Thank you to all who replied to my query.  I learned a little bit from
each, and from others, more. Greatly appreciated!

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IRE-1841 Tennessee/USA
great-great-great-granddaughter of General James FERGUS 1783
Pennsylvania/USA -1855 Ohio/USA
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 8:32 AM Michele Lewis 
wrote:

> I suggest you don’t include them in reports. You don’t need them and those
> persons reading your reports won’t understand them.
>
> These are autogenerated numbers that database programs need to have. Some
> people tie the RINs/MRINs to their paper filing system (I don’t).
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
>
> Legacy Educator
>
> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *Cynthia N. Russell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:07 AM
> *To:* LEGACY Users Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS
>
>
>
> I definitely need to understand RINs and MRINs as I am getting ready to
> create a Descendant Report - 12 generations.  I do not have any of these
> numbers on the names I have entered into my Legacy file. Obviously it is
> something that I did not set up. And, how to these RINs and MRINs work and
> what are they for.
>
>
>
> I have printed out the following, but do not always understand the
> directions:
>
> Report Title Options
>
> Renumbering RINs and MRINs - I need to number them!
>
> Displaying RINs on Names
>
> Descendant Report
>
> Report Options
>
> ARE THERE ADDITONAL REPORTS I should print to help in this process?
>
>
>
> Since I am 80 years old and trying to 'wrap' up a lot of genealogy
> reports, I have to ask for baby step information and explanations. And if
> you wish to privately send me the information with your email, that would
> be best for me, if I have to ask additional questions. I don't want to
> clutter up the Group with a lot of posts.
>
>
>
> Thanking you in advance,
>
> Cappagh
>
> great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Francis FERGUS 1752 Co Tyrone,
> IRE-1841 Tennessee/USA
>
> great-great-great-granddaughter of General James FERGUS 1783
> Pennsylvania/USA -1855 Ohio/USA
>
> fergusresearc...@gmail.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS

2019-04-10 Thread Chris Hill

Hi

RINs and MRINs are auto-generated identities applied to individuals 
and marriages as they are created. They are there so that the various 
parts of the Legacy database can connect to the correct individuals and 
marriages. You might say that Frank married Ann, but Legacy will know 
that the people Frank and Ann have unique RIN values and that their 
marriage will have a unique MRIN value and have links back to the RINs 
of the pair.


Remember that while Legacy will 'show' you various parts of the 
data, they are held separately and need various identity codes to link 
them together. Absolutely needed, from a programmers view, and totally 
hidden from the users view.


The only exception to these are the RIN and MRIN identities, and I 
suppose that there was a point in the past when they decided to make 
them visible. The RIN shows up in the Index and Individual Lists, as the 
1st column, and the MRIN shows up in the Marriage List. Unless you are 
deeply into the system you can totally ignore them - do not print them 
out and do not renumber them.


For the Descendent Book and Descendent Narrative Book, which are 
different in the format and content, there will be a large choice of 
options that you can use to control which data is included, and it is 
worth running it on a small group so that you see what the various 
choices will produce. Remember, also, that it will be based on one 
person and their descendants.


If you want to include information on multiple groups which overlap 
you can use the Multiple Lines of Decent Book - that will produce a 
report based on multiple marriages at the top and will stop descending 
every time it finds a person who has already been printed earlier in the 
report, with a reference to them. Very useful if you have traced back 
multiple lines of Ancestors and you want to produce a consolidated 
report.


To produce multiple, different reports within a single report, with 
single indexes etc, you can use the Publishing Centre to build the list 
of reports, in sequence, as needed.


Always try out the reports on small sets of people to decide which 
information you want to include, before you want to run it on a large 
tree.


Regards

Chris

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From: "Cynthia N. Russell" 
To: "LEGACY Users Group" 
Sent: 10/04/2019 13:06:33
Subject: [LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS

I definitely need to understand RINs and MRINs as I am getting ready to 
create a Descendant Report - 12 generations.  I do not have any of 
these numbers on the names I have entered into my Legacy file. 
Obviously it is something that I did not set up. And, how to these RINs 
and MRINs work and what are they for.


I have printed out the following, but do not always understand the 
directions:

Report Title Options
Renumbering RINs and MRINs - I need to number them!
Displaying RINs on Names
Descendant Report
Report Options
ARE THERE ADDITONAL REPORTS I should print to help in this process?

Since I am 80 years old and trying to 'wrap' up a lot of genealogy 
reports, I have to ask for baby step information and explanations. And 
if you wish to privately send me the information with your email, that 
would be best for me, if I have to ask additional questions. I don't 
want to clutter up the Group with a lot of posts.


Thanking you in advance,
Cappagh
great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Francis FERGUS 1752 Co Tyrone, 
IRE-1841 Tennessee/USA
great-great-great-granddaughter of General James FERGUS 1783 
Pennsylvania/USA -1855 Ohio/USA

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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS

2019-04-10 Thread Ian Macaulay
Also valuable when you are comparing your data with others the number is a
simple method of Identification within your files.

Especially when or If you have 3oo Donald's with the same last name.

Ian

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 8:32 AM Michele Lewis 
wrote:

> I suggest you don’t include them in reports. You don’t need them and those
> persons reading your reports won’t understand them.
>
> These are autogenerated numbers that database programs need to have. Some
> people tie the RINs/MRINs to their paper filing system (I don’t).
>
>
>
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
>
> Legacy Educator
>
> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
>
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *Cynthia N. Russell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:07 AM
> *To:* LEGACY Users Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS
>
>
>
> I definitely need to understand RINs and MRINs as I am getting ready to
> create a Descendant Report - 12 generations.  I do not have any of these
> numbers on the names I have entered into my Legacy file. Obviously it is
> something that I did not set up. And, how to these RINs and MRINs work and
> what are they for.
>
>
>
> I have printed out the following, but do not always understand the
> directions:
>
> Report Title Options
>
> Renumbering RINs and MRINs - I need to number them!
>
> Displaying RINs on Names
>
> Descendant Report
>
> Report Options
>
> ARE THERE ADDITONAL REPORTS I should print to help in this process?
>
>
>
> Since I am 80 years old and trying to 'wrap' up a lot of genealogy
> reports, I have to ask for baby step information and explanations. And if
> you wish to privately send me the information with your email, that would
> be best for me, if I have to ask additional questions. I don't want to
> clutter up the Group with a lot of posts.
>
>
>
> Thanking you in advance,
>
> Cappagh
>
> great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Francis FERGUS 1752 Co Tyrone,
> IRE-1841 Tennessee/USA
>
> great-great-great-granddaughter of General James FERGUS 1783
> Pennsylvania/USA -1855 Ohio/USA
>
> fergusresearc...@gmail.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS

2019-04-10 Thread Michele Lewis
I suggest you don’t include them in reports. You don’t need them and those 
persons reading your reports won’t understand them. 

These are autogenerated numbers that database programs need to have. Some 
people tie the RINs/MRINs to their paper filing system (I don’t). 

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®

Legacy Educator

Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage

 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cynthia N. Russell
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:07 AM
To: LEGACY Users Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS

 

I definitely need to understand RINs and MRINs as I am getting ready to create 
a Descendant Report - 12 generations.  I do not have any of these numbers on 
the names I have entered into my Legacy file. Obviously it is something that I 
did not set up. And, how to these RINs and MRINs work and what are they for.

 

I have printed out the following, but do not always understand the directions:

Report Title Options

Renumbering RINs and MRINs - I need to number them!

Displaying RINs on Names

Descendant Report

Report Options

ARE THERE ADDITONAL REPORTS I should print to help in this process?

 

Since I am 80 years old and trying to 'wrap' up a lot of genealogy reports, I 
have to ask for baby step information and explanations. And if you wish to 
privately send me the information with your email, that would be best for me, 
if I have to ask additional questions. I don't want to clutter up the Group 
with a lot of posts.

 

Thanking you in advance,

Cappagh

great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Francis FERGUS 1752 Co Tyrone, 
IRE-1841 Tennessee/USA

great-great-great-granddaughter of General James FERGUS 1783 Pennsylvania/USA 
-1855 Ohio/USA

fergusresearc...@gmail.com <mailto:fergusresearc...@gmail.com> 

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[LegacyUG] RINs and MRINS

2019-04-10 Thread Cynthia N. Russell
I definitely need to understand RINs and MRINs as I am getting ready to
create a Descendant Report - 12 generations.  I do not have any of these
numbers on the names I have entered into my Legacy file. Obviously it is
something that I did not set up. And, how to these RINs and MRINs work and
what are they for.

I have printed out the following, but do not always understand the
directions:
Report Title Options
Renumbering RINs and MRINs - I need to number them!
Displaying RINs on Names
Descendant Report
Report Options
ARE THERE ADDITONAL REPORTS I should print to help in this process?

Since I am 80 years old and trying to 'wrap' up a lot of genealogy reports,
I have to ask for baby step information and explanations. And if you wish
to privately send me the information with your email, that would be best
for me, if I have to ask additional questions. I don't want to clutter up
the Group with a lot of posts.

Thanking you in advance,
Cappagh
great-great-great-great-granddaughter of Francis FERGUS 1752 Co Tyrone,
IRE-1841 Tennessee/USA
great-great-great-granddaughter of General James FERGUS 1783
Pennsylvania/USA -1855 Ohio/USA
fergusresearc...@gmail.com
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[LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Charlotte Box
Hello everyone

I'm new to Legacy and I'm trying to understand RINs. Most of mine are 10
digits long so I would like to shorten them; as the tree I'm working on has
only around 1500 people so is it possible to renumber them from 1-1500 and
if so how do I implement this using the renumbering facility in Legacy?

Thanks!


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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Sherry/Support
In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
all missing RINs.  Do the same for MRINs.

In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
RINs/MRINs,


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Charlotte Box
charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone

 I'm new to Legacy and I'm trying to understand RINs. Most of mine are 10
 digits long so I would like to shorten them; as the tree I'm working on has
 only around 1500 people so is it possible to renumber them from 1-1500 and
 if so how do I implement this using the renumbering facility in Legacy?

 Thanks!



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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Charlotte Box
The options are:
Renumber current RIN..
Fill missing RINs..
Fill all missing RINs..

None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it not
possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?

Thanks.

On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
 all missing RINs.  Do the same for MRINs.

 In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
 File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
 the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
 RINs/MRINs,


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Charlotte Box
 charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hello everyone
 
  I'm new to Legacy and I'm trying to understand RINs. Most of mine are 10
  digits long so I would like to shorten them; as the tree I'm working on
 has
  only around 1500 people so is it possible to renumber them from 1-1500
 and
  if so how do I implement this using the renumbering facility in Legacy?
 
  Thanks!
 


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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Scott Hall
Fill all missing RINs will take all higher number RINS and reassign them to
lower numbers.

So, if your first RIN is 104524521, it will renumber it 1.

Scott

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Charlotte Box 
charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:

 The options are:
 Renumber current RIN..
 Fill missing RINs..
 Fill all missing RINs..

 None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it not
 possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?

 Thanks.


 On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
 all missing RINs.  Do the same for MRINs.

 In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
 File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
 the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
 RINs/MRINs,


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Charlotte Box
 charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hello everyone
 
  I'm new to Legacy and I'm trying to understand RINs. Most of mine are 10
  digits long so I would like to shorten them; as the tree I'm working on
 has
  only around 1500 people so is it possible to renumber them from 1-1500
 and
  if so how do I implement this using the renumbering facility in Legacy?
 
  Thanks!
 


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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Sherry/Support
There are missing ones. There's a gap between your smaller numbers and
the larger ones.  Take a look at the Name List sorted by RIN - click
on the # field. Then scroll down, looking at the numbers.

The higher numbers will be moved down to fill in the blank spaces.

You probably should also go to Options  Customize  Data Defaults and
make sure Reuse abandoned RINs is selected. As you add new
individuals, the missing RINs will be filled in.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Charlotte Box
charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:
 The options are:
 Renumber current RIN..
 Fill missing RINs..
 Fill all missing RINs..

 None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it not
 possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?

 Thanks.

 On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
 all missing RINs.  Do the same for MRINs.

 In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
 File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
 the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
 RINs/MRINs,


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Kathy Meyer
I understand about filling in the 'missing' RINs as you add new people but
I'm wondering if you can renumber the entire database.  Like tell it to
start with me as number one and then renumber everything out from there.  I
don't use the RINs for much but it seems to me that some people who use them
a lot might want to renumber from the beginning. Just wonderingKathy

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 There are missing ones. There's a gap between your smaller numbers and
 the larger ones.  Take a look at the Name List sorted by RIN - click
 on the # field. Then scroll down, looking at the numbers.

 The higher numbers will be moved down to fill in the blank spaces.

 You probably should also go to Options  Customize  Data Defaults and
 make sure Reuse abandoned RINs is selected. As you add new
 individuals, the missing RINs will be filled in.

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Charlotte Box
 charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:
  The options are:
  Renumber current RIN..
  Fill missing RINs..
  Fill all missing RINs..
 
  None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it
 not
  possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?
 
  Thanks.
 
  On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:
 
  In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
  all missing RINs.  Do the same for MRINs.
 
  In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
  File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
  the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
  RINs/MRINs,
 
 
  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree


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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Charlotte Box
You've hit the nail right on the head Kathy, thanks for that. Just seems
logical that way. I thought I understood what RINs are but I'm getting
confused by the fields which don't match what I want it to do. I will have a
go with what everyone has suggested and see what happens!


On 24 May 2011 19:35, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I understand about filling in the 'missing' RINs as you add new people but
 I'm wondering if you can renumber the entire database.  Like tell it to
 start with me as number one and then renumber everything out from there.  I
 don't use the RINs for much but it seems to me that some people who use them
 a lot might want to renumber from the beginning. Just wonderingKathy

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Sherry/Support 
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 There are missing ones. There's a gap between your smaller numbers and
 the larger ones.  Take a look at the Name List sorted by RIN - click
 on the # field. Then scroll down, looking at the numbers.

 The higher numbers will be moved down to fill in the blank spaces.

 You probably should also go to Options  Customize  Data Defaults and
 make sure Reuse abandoned RINs is selected. As you add new
 individuals, the missing RINs will be filled in.

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Charlotte Box

 charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:
  The options are:
  Renumber current RIN..
  Fill missing RINs..
  Fill all missing RINs..
 
  None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it
 not
  possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?
 
  Thanks.
 
  On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:
 
  In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
  all missing RINs.  Do the same for MRINs.
 
  In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
  File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
  the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
  RINs/MRINs,
 
 
  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree


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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread my genealogy email
Kathy, Charlotte,
If you are number 1 in the database then doing as suggested WILL renumber the 
whole database. If you are not number 1 then you can change your RIN to number 
1 by doing the “Renumber current RIN which will swap your RIN with the current 
number 1. Then goto renumber RINs and pick “Fill all missing RINs” and that 
should do it.
Russ

From: Charlotte Box
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

You've hit the nail right on the head Kathy, thanks for that. Just seems 
logical that way. I thought I understood what RINs are but I'm getting confused 
by the fields which don't match what I want it to do. I will have a go with 
what everyone has suggested and see what happens!



On 24 May 2011 19:35, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote:

  I understand about filling in the 'missing' RINs as you add new people but 
I'm wondering if you can renumber the entire database.  Like tell it to start 
with me as number one and then renumber everything out from there.  I don't use 
the RINs for much but it seems to me that some people who use them a lot might 
want to renumber from the beginning. Just wonderingKathy


  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

There are missing ones. There's a gap between your smaller numbers and
the larger ones.  Take a look at the Name List sorted by RIN - click
on the # field. Then scroll down, looking at the numbers.

The higher numbers will be moved down to fill in the blank spaces.

You probably should also go to Options  Customize  Data Defaults and
make sure Reuse abandoned RINs is selected. As you add new
individuals, the missing RINs will be filled in.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree




On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Charlotte Box

charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:

 The options are:
 Renumber current RIN..
 Fill missing RINs..
 Fill all missing RINs..

 None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it not
 possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?

 Thanks.

 On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:


 In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
 all missing RINs.  Do the same for MRINs.

 In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
 File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
 the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
 RINs/MRINs,


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 Sherry
 Technical Support
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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Ron Ferguson
Charlotte,

There is no point in renumbering all the RINs, they are just numbers. They are 
useful in identifying a specific person and they also provide the file name for 
Pedigree webpages. Otherwise they serve little purpose.

Normally the start person, that is the person who created the site has RIN 1 
and this number is incremented by 1 as each new person is added. I can see the 
point in fillings gaps which are normally created by deleting a person or 
merging a (eg.) GEDCOM starting with much higher RINs, but I would be 
interested to know what you wish to achieve by a complete renumbering (if it 
could be done).  Any such alleged system created would be rendered useless as 
soon as a new person is added or someone is deleted.

I repeat, a RIN is simply a number.

Ron Ferguson
www.fergys.co.uk/



From: Charlotte Box
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

You've hit the nail right on the head Kathy, thanks for that. Just seems 
logical that way. I thought I understood what RINs are but I'm getting confused 
by the fields which don't match what I want it to do. I will have a go with 
what everyone has suggested and see what happens!



On 24 May 2011 19:35, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote:

  I understand about filling in the 'missing' RINs as you add new people but 
I'm wondering if you can renumber the entire database.  Like tell it to start 
with me as number one and then renumber everything out from there.  I don't use 
the RINs for much but it seems to me that some people who use them a lot might 
want to renumber from the beginning. Just wonderingKathy


  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

There are missing ones. There's a gap between your smaller numbers and
the larger ones.  Take a look at the Name List sorted by RIN - click
on the # field. Then scroll down, looking at the numbers.

The higher numbers will be moved down to fill in the blank spaces.

You probably should also go to Options  Customize  Data Defaults and
make sure Reuse abandoned RINs is selected. As you add new
individuals, the missing RINs will be filled in.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree




On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Charlotte Box

charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:

 The options are:
 Renumber current RIN..
 Fill missing RINs..
 Fill all missing RINs..

 None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it not
 possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?

 Thanks.

 On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:


 In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
 all missing RINs..  Do the same for MRINs.

 In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
 File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
 the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
 RINs/MRINs,


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


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  STRESS:  when your gut says NO WAY and your mouth says NO PROBLEM

  To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things you have 
never before done.
  --Richard G. Scott, Finding the Way Back, Ensign, May 1990, 74

  Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different 
results. ~ Albert Einstein



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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 24/05/2011 19:35, Kathy Meyer wrote:
 I understand about filling in the 'missing' RINs as you add new people but
 I'm wondering if you can renumber the entire database.  Like tell it to
 start with me as number one and then renumber everything out from there.  I
 don't use the RINs for much but it seems to me that some people who use them
 a lot might want to renumber from the beginning. Just wondering

If you want to assign particular numbers to particular people you will
have to either renumber them one at a time or assign UserIDs.  RINs are
assigned incrementally as you add each new person to the database so the
numbers probably won't bear much, if any, relationship to whereabout on
the tree a person resides.


If you do as Sherry advises it WILL renumber all your RINs.  You say you
don't have any missing, but obviously if you only have 1500 people but
your RINs all have at least 10 digits the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 .
are missing!  If you do what Sherry says you will have RINs from 1 to 1500.

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RE: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Olwyn Bourne

Charlotte, I'm sort of newish to Legacy so I don't know much but if it
just a visual thing you can choose not to display the number.  Olwyn

From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RINs
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:41:16 +0100









Charlotte,

There is no point in renumbering all the RINs,
they are just numbers. They are useful in identifying a specific person and they
also provide the file name for Pedigree webpages. Otherwise they serve little
purpose.

Normally the start person, that is the person who
created the site has RIN 1 and this number is incremented by 1 as each new
person is added. I can see the point in fillings gaps which are normally created
by deleting a person or merging a (eg.) GEDCOM starting with much higher RINs,
but I would be interested to know what you wish to achieve by a complete
renumbering (if it could be done).  Any such alleged system created would
be rendered useless as soon as a new person is added or someone is
deleted.

I repeat, a RIN is simply a number.

Ron Ferguson
www.fergys.co.uk/




From: Charlotte Box
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

You've
hit the nail right on the head Kathy, thanks for that. Just seems logical that
way. I thought I understood what RINs are but I'm getting confused by the fields
which don't match what I want it to do. I will have a go with what everyone has
suggested and see what happens!



On 24 May 2011 19:35, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com
wrote:

I understand about filling in the 'missing' RINs as you add
  new people but I'm wondering if you can renumber the entire database.
  Like tell it to start with me as number one and then renumber everything out
  from there.  I don't use the RINs for much but it seems to me that some
  people who use them a lot might want to renumber from the beginning. Just
  wonderingKathy



  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:


There are missing ones. There's a gap between your smaller
numbers and
the larger ones.  Take a look at the Name List sorted by
RIN - click
on the # field. Then scroll down, looking at the
numbers.

The higher numbers will be moved down to fill in the blank
spaces.

You probably should also go to Options  Customize 
Data Defaults and
make sure Reuse abandoned RINs is selected. As you
add new
individuals, the missing RINs will be filled in.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family
Tree



On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Charlotte
Box


charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:


 The options are:
 Renumber current RIN..

Fill missing RINs..
 Fill all missing RINs..

 None are
missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it not

possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?


Thanks.

 On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
wrote:


 In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs
and select Fill
 all missing RINs..  Do the same for
MRINs.

 In the Standard Edition, you need to export
to a new Family File -
 File  Export to... Legacy file. In
the Legacy Export window, under
 the section Record Numbering,
select to Fill all existing abandoned

RINs/MRINs,


 Sincerely,

Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree

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  STRESS:  when your gut says NO WAY and your mouth says NO
  PROBLEM

To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things
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--Richard G. Scott, Finding the Way Back,
  Ensign, May 1990, 74

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again
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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

2011-05-24 Thread Charlotte Box
Ok thanks for the advice everyone. Please remember though that to a newcomer
these little things can seem hugely confusing. I run a tight ship and they
look disorderly yet kind of important running down the side of the index,
however, now I know.

On 24 May 2011 20:41, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Charlotte,

 There is no point in renumbering all the RINs, they are just numbers. They
 are useful in identifying a specific person and they also provide the file
 name for Pedigree webpages. Otherwise they serve little purpose.

 Normally the start person, that is the person who created the site has RIN
 1 and this number is incremented by 1 as each new person is added. I can see
 the point in fillings gaps which are normally created by deleting a person
 or merging a (eg.) GEDCOM starting with much higher RINs, but I would be
 interested to know what you wish to achieve by a complete renumbering (if it
 could be done).  Any such alleged system created would be rendered useless
 as soon as a new person is added or someone is deleted.

 I repeat, a RIN is simply a number.

 Ron Ferguson
 www.fergys.co.uk/



  *From:* Charlotte Box charlotte.e@googlemail.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:11 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] RINs

 You've hit the nail right on the head Kathy, thanks for that. Just seems
 logical that way. I thought I understood what RINs are but I'm getting
 confused by the fields which don't match what I want it to do. I will have a
 go with what everyone has suggested and see what happens!


 On 24 May 2011 19:35, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I understand about filling in the 'missing' RINs as you add new people but
 I'm wondering if you can renumber the entire database.  Like tell it to
 start with me as number one and then renumber everything out from there.  I
 don't use the RINs for much but it seems to me that some people who use them
 a lot might want to renumber from the beginning. Just wonderingKathy

  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Sherry/Support 
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 There are missing ones. There's a gap between your smaller numbers and
 the larger ones.  Take a look at the Name List sorted by RIN - click
 on the # field. Then scroll down, looking at the numbers.

 The higher numbers will be moved down to fill in the blank spaces.

 You probably should also go to Options  Customize  Data Defaults and
 make sure Reuse abandoned RINs is selected. As you add new
 individuals, the missing RINs will be filled in.

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Charlotte Box

 charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote:
   The options are:
  Renumber current RIN..
  Fill missing RINs..
  Fill all missing RINs..
 
  None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it
 not
  possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then?
 
  Thanks.
 
  On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:
 
  In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools  Renumber RINs and select Fill
  all missing RINs..  Do the same for MRINs.
 
  In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File -
  File  Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under
  the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned
  RINs/MRINs,
 
 
  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree


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[LegacyUG] RINs, MRINS, AFNS, User IDs

2010-09-07 Thread Vivien Martin
Is there any way that I can turn off this feature alltogether. I have my own
filing system and am finding that on printout of my work, I have been unable
to supress the Legacy numbers. They are everywhere even in the notes and
bibliography.
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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs, MRINS, AFNS, User IDs

2010-09-07 Thread Wendy Howard
  Hi Vivien,

 Is there any way that I can turn off this feature alltogether. I have
 my own filing system and am finding that on printout of my work, I
 have been unable to supress the Legacy numbers. They are everywhere
 even in the notes and bibliography.

You can't not have a RIN, it's an integral part of the database
structure.  But you don't have to have them showing in reports.  Options
  Customise  View  Display Numbers on Names.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
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Re: [LegacyUG] RINs, MRINS, AFNS, User IDs

2010-09-07 Thread Wendy Howard
  I said:

 You can't not have a RIN, it's an integral part of the database
 structure. But you don't have to have them showing in reports. Options
  Customise  View  Display Numbers on Names.

Oops, I realise now that that is only for displaying them on the
screen.  To suppress the numbers on reports go into your report's Report
Options and make sure the boxes for including these numbers are not checked.

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
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