Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Yeah, you are right about that. I forgot it also said FACTS. --Jerry On 02/23/2012 05:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 23/02/2012 04:09, Jerry wrote: But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Let us not forget that the lower section of an Individual's Information screen is labelled Events/Facts. The FACT that someone appeared on a Census or in a newspaper article or had an obituary written about them may perfectly reasonably be entered there *if anyone chooses to do so*. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Lea-Anne, Just wanted to also mention that the sentence structure for ANY event can be modified to suit your needs. Legacy has included a Census event that has a set sentence structure Soandso appeared on the suchandsuch census in date in place. (or something close to that) You can modify that in the Events list, once for all of your Census events. Or you can override the sentence structure for one event (or maybe a set of events if you override it once and copy the event using the clipboard, for example). Or I think you can even copy the Census event to your own version Lea-Annes Census...! Another thing to keep in mind is that all of the events are generic in the database. They all have the same fields description, date, place, notes. A Residence event looks remarkably similar to a Census event ;) but for the sentence structure. So, from a purely using-the-database viewpoint, you can do anything you want. Legacy just took the time to set up some standard sentence structures to assist us. (Well, that sounded a bit know it all but thought I am not a Legacy programmer, I do believe that's how it is set up.) Though I'm not an expert on all Legacy reporting options either, I believe every report has one or more options on the format in which to print the events. I've lately been using the FGR, and the option is list vs. sentence... be sure to check these out, too, as you test your output. One format might be more to your liking. Good luck! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 9:40:42 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then source the census with the full details in the text field and see how that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all through the report. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Lea-Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Thanks Paula for your suggestions. Correct me if I'm wrong but I tried the sentence override part of the event entry but when I checked the output (descendants book report) the small number identifying the source doesn't appear with this event in the main part of the report. The source is still in the source citation at the end of the generation. I am still experimenting but all suggestions are greatfully received. Lea-Anne On 25 February 2012 04:06, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, Just wanted to also mention that the sentence structure for ANY event can be modified to suit your needs. Legacy has included a Census event that has a set sentence structure Soandso appeared on the suchandsuch census in date in place. (or something close to that) You can modify that in the Events list, once for all of your Census events. Or you can override the sentence structure for one event (or maybe a set of events if you override it once and copy the event using the clipboard, for example). Or I think you can even copy the Census event to your own version Lea-Annes Census...! Another thing to keep in mind is that all of the events are generic in the database. They all have the same fields description, date, place, notes. A Residence event looks remarkably similar to a Census event ;) but for the sentence structure. So, from a purely using-the-database viewpoint, you can do anything you want. Legacy just took the time to set up some standard sentence structures to assist us. (Well, that sounded a bit know it all but thought I am not a Legacy programmer, I do believe that's how it is set up.) Though I'm not an expert on all Legacy reporting options either, I believe every report has one or more options on the format in which to print the events. I've lately been using the FGR, and the option is list vs. sentence... be sure to check these out, too, as you test your output. One format might be more to your liking. Good luck! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 9:40:42 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then source the census with the full details in the text field and see how that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all through the report. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Lea-Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Lea-Anne, That should not be the case, can you please give details of the Event (I think) and your full sentence override so it can be replicated? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Lea-Anne Davison Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Thanks Paula for your suggestions. Correct me if I'm wrong but I tried the sentence override part of the event entry but when I checked the output (descendants book report) the small number identifying the source doesn't appear with this event in the main part of the report. The source is still in the source citation at the end of the generation. I am still experimenting but all suggestions are greatfully received. Lea-Anne On 25 February 2012 04:06, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, Just wanted to also mention that the sentence structure for ANY event can be modified to suit your needs. Legacy has included a Census event that has a set sentence structure Soandso appeared on the suchandsuch census in date in place. (or something close to that) You can modify that in the Events list, once for all of your Census events. Or you can override the sentence structure for one event (or maybe a set of events if you override it once and copy the event using the clipboard, for example). Or I think you can even copy the Census event to your own version Lea-Annes Census...! Another thing to keep in mind is that all of the events are generic in the database. They all have the same fields description, date, place, notes. A Residence event looks remarkably similar to a Census event ;) but for the sentence structure. So, from a purely using-the-database viewpoint, you can do anything you want. Legacy just took the time to set up some standard sentence structures to assist us. (Well, that sounded a bit know it all but thought I am not a Legacy programmer, I do believe that's how it is set up.) Though I'm not an expert on all Legacy reporting options either, I believe every report has one or more options on the format in which to print the events. I've lately been using the FGR, and the option is list vs. sentence... be sure to check these out, too, as you test your output. One format might be more to your liking. Good luck! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 9:40:42 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then source the census with the full details in the text field and see how that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all through the report. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Lea-Anne No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1872 / Virus Database: 2092/4827 - Release Date: 02/23/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Lea-Anne, In the sentence structure, there is a field you add that is the little number... I think it is [Sources] Take a look at another event's sentence structure (that you haven't made changes to) and see where Legacy has put that field. You can add that field to your override sentence structure, and then the little number should show up WITH the event in the body of the report. However, there are still some report options to check. The descendants book report's report options has a tab for Sources, where you have to check the box for them to print, then you can indicate how you want the source citations to print - footnotes vs. endnotes, etc. Then again, if you're getting the citations at the end, you have all that checked. So, another reason the little number could be missing is because the citation hasn't actually been added to this particular event. Can you double-check that? In the Individual's screen in the events/facts list, does the event in question have an S beside it? If not, then it hasn't been sourced. Not sure how that happened, but it has definitely happened to me, where I thought I had cited the source, but was trying to do so many things at once that it just hadn't been done. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Fri, February 24, 2012 4:19:29 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Thanks Paula for your suggestions. Correct me if I'm wrong but I tried the sentence override part of the event entry but when I checked the output (descendants book report) the small number identifying the source doesn't appear with this event in the main part of the report. The source is still in the source citation at the end of the generation. I am still experimenting but all suggestions are greatfully received. Lea-Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Paula, It should not be necessary to add the sources in the way you suggest (if indeed that is possible). The addition of sources is a combination of two factors 1) The Event has a Source linked to it, and b) in Report Options Sources the box to display sources is checked. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Paula Ryburn Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Lea-Anne, In the sentence structure, there is a field you add that is the little number... I think it is [Sources] Take a look at another event's sentence structure (that you haven't made changes to) and see where Legacy has put that field. You can add that field to your override sentence structure, and then the little number should show up WITH the event in the body of the report. However, there are still some report options to check. The descendants book report's report options has a tab for Sources, where you have to check the box for them to print, then you can indicate how you want the source citations to print - footnotes vs. endnotes, etc. Then again, if you're getting the citations at the end, you have all that checked. So, another reason the little number could be missing is because the citation hasn't actually been added to this particular event. Can you double-check that? In the Individual's screen in the events/facts list, does the event in question have an S beside it? If not, then it hasn't been sourced. Not sure how that happened, but it has definitely happened to me, where I thought I had cited the source, but was trying to do so many things at once that it just hadn't been done. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Fri, February 24, 2012 4:19:29 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Thanks Paula for your suggestions. Correct me if I'm wrong but I tried the sentence override part of the event entry but when I checked the output (descendants book report) the small number identifying the source doesn't appear with this event in the main part of the report. The source is still in the source citation at the end of the generation. I am still experimenting but all suggestions are greatfully received. Lea-Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Thank you Paula, that was the case- I needed to insert the [Source] field at the end of my sentence override. I didn't understnd that was part of the default wording structure for the event. I have been doing mainly data imput into Legacy and am only just now seeing how the reports look. Upon reflective I should of been checking the output into reports as I had been going along. I think I have come up with a combination of default wording and then adding some condensed extra wording that doesn't clog up the report too much. Lea-Anne On 25 February 2012 09:04, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, In the sentence structure, there is a field you add that is the little number... I think it is [Sources] Take a look at another event's sentence structure (that you haven't made changes to) and see where Legacy has put that field. You can add that field to your override sentence structure, and then the little number should show up WITH the event in the body of the report. However, there are still some report options to check. The descendants book report's report options has a tab for Sources, where you have to check the box for them to print, then you can indicate how you want the source citations to print - footnotes vs. endnotes, etc. Then again, if you're getting the citations at the end, you have all that checked. So, another reason the little number could be missing is because the citation hasn't actually been added to this particular event. Can you double-check that? In the Individual's screen in the events/facts list, does the event in question have an S beside it? If not, then it hasn't been sourced. Not sure how that happened, but it has definitely happened to me, where I thought I had cited the source, but was trying to do so many things at once that it just hadn't been done. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Fri, February 24, 2012 4:19:29 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Thanks Paula for your suggestions. Correct me if I'm wrong but I tried the sentence override part of the event entry but when I checked the output (descendants book report) the small number identifying the source doesn't appear with this event in the main part of the report. The source is still in the source citation at the end of the generation. I am still experimenting but all suggestions are greatfully received. Lea-Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Ron, The original poster was using a custom event sentence. When defining your own event sentences you do need to include the [sources] field to tell Legacy where to include the source citations in the sentence. If you do not use the [sources] then no sources will be cited in the sentence. All the Legacy defined events already have the [sources] field in the sentence definition so for those events you only have to set the source options in the report setup. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 24/02/2012 6:11 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Paula, It should not be necessary to add the sources in the way you suggest (if indeed that is possible). The addition of sources is a combination of two factors 1) The Event has a Source linked to it, and b) in Report Options Sources the box to display sources is checked. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Thanks, Brian. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Brian/Support Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Ron, The original poster was using a custom event sentence. When defining your own event sentences you do need to include the [sources] field to tell Legacy where to include the source citations in the sentence. If you do not use the [sources] then no sources will be cited in the sentence. All the Legacy defined events already have the [sources] field in the sentence definition so for those events you only have to set the source options in the report setup. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 24/02/2012 6:11 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Paula, It should not be necessary to add the sources in the way you suggest (if indeed that is possible). The addition of sources is a combination of two factors 1) The Event has a Source linked to it, and b) in Report Options Sources the box to display sources is checked. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Yay! Glad it was so easy. Hope your reports are starting to take shape the way you want! --Paula From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Fri, February 24, 2012 5:38:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Thank you Paula, that was the case- I needed to insert the [Source] field at the end of my sentence override. I didn't understnd that was part of the default wording structure for the event. I have been doing mainly data imput into Legacy and am only just now seeing how the reports look. Upon reflective I should of been checking the output into reports as I had been going along. I think I have come up with a combination of default wording and then adding some condensed extra wording that doesn't clog up the report too much. Lea-Anne On 25 February 2012 09:04, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, In the sentence structure, there is a field you add that is the little number... I think it is [Sources] Take a look at another event's sentence structure (that you haven't made changes to) and see where Legacy has put that field. You can add that field to your override sentence structure, and then the little number should show up WITH the event in the body of the report. However, there are still some report options to check. The descendants book report's report options has a tab for Sources, where you have to check the box for them to print, then you can indicate how you want the source citations to print - footnotes vs. endnotes, etc. Then again, if you're getting the citations at the end, you have all that checked. So, another reason the little number could be missing is because the citation hasn't actually been added to this particular event. Can you double-check that? In the Individual's screen in the events/facts list, does the event in question have an S beside it? If not, then it hasn't been sourced. Not sure how that happened, but it has definitely happened to me, where I thought I had cited the source, but was trying to do so many things at once that it just hadn't been done. snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
On 23/02/2012 04:09, Jerry wrote: But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Let us not forget that the lower section of an Individual's Information screen is labelled Events/Facts. The FACT that someone appeared on a Census or in a newspaper article or had an obituary written about them may perfectly reasonably be entered there *if anyone chooses to do so*. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
I do census records as an event and then I copy it to each person named. I try to follow each person through all the census years while they were living. I don’t worry too much about reports because I don’t use them. Reports never format correctly to be used in magazines,newspaper articles or client reports so I hand type them anyway. I rarely print out or pdf a report for someone else. I prefer to discuss the research and the sources with them. Just giving someone a printout doesn’t cause them to think on their own. I will print out a predigree chart for someone to show them the basic skeleton of their family. Legacy for me is my database, my notes, my research. It isn’t a short cut way to present research to someone else. michele From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports That's why I do not enter it the way Geoff recommends. When trying something new, I enter the data the new way and then run several different reports to see how it looks. Hopefully, Geoff will respond with some report settings that can keep the repetitions to a minimum. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams _ From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:11:53 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long winded. I have entered the census information for each family as per a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same census information as each member of the family appears in the report. This results in a very long report of some repeated information. Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear only once at the end of each family. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine then. From Jenny M Benson Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote: I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! ... What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief info-history of each person in the General Notes field. Then I will print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it, but I don't think that will be necessary. Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you! Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800 Cathy-0 Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field of the event. All events and information has been sourced and when I print the Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes. By entering data as events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline. And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that family members can easily find anyone of interest to them. Have you looked at the Descendants Book report? If not, take a look. Cathy Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the features of Legacy. Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a good start after I finish entering the information. Peggy From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources
RE: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
On 23/02/2012 04:09, Jerry wrote: But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. A census puts a person in a specific place at a specific time, that is an event. If you use the census just as a source, I think you lose a lot. You are supposed to look at each person you are researching as a person, not just a set of facts and figures. You try to imagine how they lived and what their life was like and census records help with that. You get an overview at a glance. I like to have all of the census records for their entire life span and you can easily see how their life progressed. Using a census merely as a source you lose a lot of that. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Once again, some of you are forgetting that the section on the Individual's form is Events/Facts. The census itself wasn't an event for the person, but the person's being recorded on the census is a FACT. Likewise, being mentioned in a newspaper article is a FACT, having an obituary published is a FACT. Whether you choose to record a Census in that section or not is a personal choice. Mary On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary definitions on this subject. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Mary, Unfortunately, there are some folks on this list who feel the way they have chosen to do something is the only way to do it. They like to ridicule the folks who don't use their method. Ron Bernier -Original Message- From: M. Brenzel [mailto:brenze...@roadrunner.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Once again, some of you are forgetting that the section on the Individual's form is Events/Facts. The census itself wasn't an event for the person, but the person's being recorded on the census is a FACT. Likewise, being mentioned in a newspaper article is a FACT, having an obituary published is a FACT. Whether you choose to record a Census in that section or not is a personal choice. Mary On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary definitions on this subject. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Funny, but my response, so much like Jenny's below, was written and sent before I saw hers. Mary Sent from my iPad On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 23/02/2012 04:09, Jerry wrote: But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Let us not forget that the lower section of an Individual's Information screen is labelled Events/Facts. The FACT that someone appeared on a Census or in a newspaper article or had an obituary written about them may perfectly reasonably be entered there *if anyone chooses to do so*. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
This is my first time weighing in with an answer but I wanted to offer a couple of thoughts. Jerry - I understand your desire to have accurate descriptions for events and that census doesn't seem like an event. I believe the actual event is appearance on the census which very specifically ties an individual to a date and a location. For me, Census is both an event and a source. I use the census as a source for approximate birth date and place, occupation, residence, sometimes marriage, etc. I also create a census event (considering that census is an abbreviation for appearance on a census) as Geoff does. I am still deep in the research state of my work so being able to see at a glance where a person was during specific decades, helps me decide where to research next. I also like being able to click on edit when the event is highlighted so that I can quickly confirm who is in the household and what they were doing there. As for reports, I realize that how we input the data will affect the output but I have always assumed that I would be making substantial edits to any report (copy and paste into Word as someone suggested) or even that I would use the report as an outline to write my own narrative. Perhaps one of the factors to consider in how to enter your census data is whether you want to glance at a person's events to see a quick chronology - or not! Georgia - researching Ohio and Mississippi from California On 2/22/2012 8:09 PM, Jerry wrote: I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary definitions on this subject. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Jenny, Whilst this attached to your post it is not really a reply to your comments, but simply a way of commenting on the posts in the thread, and I picked yours because I knew you would understand :-). In my previous post I expressed the wish that the thread did not develop into a my way is better/more right than your way type of discussion. I am not, therefore entering that debate. I was pointing out that there is more than one way of dealing with Events/Facts and in my view the selection is dependent on the use to which the users wish to put their data - reports, websites, detailed research and so on! There is no right and wrong way, but there may be a right, or a least a better, way for the owner of the data - it is personal to them. If I suggest a method of improving the output for somebody, and this happens to conflict with someone's cherished idea of there is only one way of doing this, and that's my way, then tough, I will never agree with you. That is not to say I never change my way of working, I do, but only because it makes things easier for me, or gives me a better outcome. And for those who believe that standards are the 'be all and end all', please tell one which hasn't changed, or, like GEDCOM, needs changing. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports On 23/02/2012 04:09, Jerry wrote: But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Let us not forget that the lower section of an Individual's Information screen is labelled Events/Facts. The FACT that someone appeared on a Census or in a newspaper article or had an obituary written about them may perfectly reasonably be entered there *if anyone chooses to do so*. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
I realise this topic has done the rounds on several occasions and I am relatively new to Legacy but my logical mind tells me - on a certain day a person visited the household to collect the information ie an EVENT (and a FACT). The information is recorded and archived which creates a SOURCE. I suppose you could say the same, for a birth registration, for instance. By a person registering the birth it is an EVENT. The FACT of the, EVENT of the birth, is recorded and archived which creates a SOURCE. Regards Shirley Mt Maunganui, NZ - Original Message - From: Georgia To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports This is my first time weighing in with an answer but I wanted to offer a couple of thoughts. Jerry - I understand your desire to have accurate descriptions for events and that census doesn't seem like an event. I believe the actual event is appearance on the census which very specifically ties an individual to a date and a location. For me, Census is both an event and a source. I use the census as a source for approximate birth date and place, occupation, residence, sometimes marriage, etc. I also create a census event (considering that census is an abbreviation for appearance on a census) as Geoff does. I am still deep in the research state of my work so being able to see at a glance where a person was during specific decades, helps me decide where to research next. I also like being able to click on edit when the event is highlighted so that I can quickly confirm who is in the household and what they were doing there. As for reports, I realize that how we input the data will affect the output but I have always assumed that I would be making substantial edits to any report (copy and paste into Word as someone suggested) or even that I would use the report as an outline to write my own narrative. Perhaps one of the factors to consider in how to enter your census data is whether you want to glance at a person's events to see a quick chronology - or not! Georgia - researching Ohio and Mississippi from California On 2/22/2012 8:09 PM, Jerry wrote: I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary definitions on this subject. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote: I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! (But I want the sources there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about. What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief info-history of each person in the General Notes field. Then I will print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it, but I don't think that will be necessary. Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of output? A story or history kind of book? There may be, but I don't know of one. My method is a bit long-winded perhaps, but there won't be too many people involved and I will get exactly the right output for the relative I am doing it for. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field of the event. All events and information has been sourced and when I print the Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes. By entering data as events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline. And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that family members can easily find anyone of interest to them. Have you looked at the Descendants Book report? If not, take a look. Cathy From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about. Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of output? A story or history kind of book? Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all. Thank you if you can help, Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine then. From Jenny M Benson Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote: I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! ... What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief info-history of each person in the General Notes field. Then I will print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it, but I don't think that will be necessary. Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you! Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800Cathy-0 Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field of the event. All events and information has been sourced and when I print the Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes. By entering data as events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline. And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that family members can easily find anyone of interest to them. Have you looked at the Descendants Book report? If not, take a look. Cathy Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the features of Legacy. Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a good start after I finish entering the information. Peggy From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about. Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of output? A story or history kind of book? Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all. Thank you if you can help, Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long winded. I have entered the census information for each family as per a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same census information as each member of the family appears in the report. This results in a very long report of some repeated information. Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear only once at the end of each family. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine then. From Jenny M Benson Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote: I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! ... What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief info-history of each person in the General Notes field. Then I will print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it, but I don't think that will be necessary. Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you! Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800 Cathy-0 Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field of the event. All events and information has been sourced and when I print the Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes. By entering data as events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline. And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that family members can easily find anyone of interest to them. Have you looked at the Descendants Book report? If not, take a look. Cathy Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the features of Legacy. Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a good start after I finish entering the information. Peggy From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about. Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of output? A story or history kind of book? Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all. Thank you if you can help, Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog
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I also use the Descendants Book report, I save it as a PDF, then copy and paste it into a Word document. That way I can then add or subtract as much as I want, I usually add in copies of the census pages and certificates as well as any photos I have. It looks quite impressive when finished, I add in the sources at the end of the 'book' . Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Lea-Anne, Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. name, occupations, residences etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Lea-Anne Davison Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long winded. I have entered the census information for each family as per a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same census information as each member of the family appears in the report. This results in a very long report of some repeated information. Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear only once at the end of each family. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine then. From Jenny M Benson Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote: I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! ... What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief info-history of each person in the General Notes field. Then I will print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it, but I don't think that will be necessary. Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you! Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800 Cathy-0 Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field of the event. All events and information has been sourced and when I print the Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes. By entering data as events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline. And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that family members can easily find anyone of interest to them. Have you looked at the Descendants Book report? If not, take a look. Cathy Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the features of Legacy. Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a good start after I finish entering the information. Peggy From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about. Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of output? A story or history kind of book? Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all. Thank you if you can help, Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:11:53 +1000, Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear only once at the end of each family. The only quick dirty way I can suggest is to make the Census's Event Definition private. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Ron Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Lea-Anne, Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. name, occupations, residences etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Lea-Anne Davison Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long winded. I have entered the census information for each family as per a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same census information as each member of the family appears in the report. This results in a very long report of some repeated information. Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear only once at the end of each family. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine then. From Jenny M Benson Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote: I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! ... What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief info-history of each person in the General Notes field. Then I will print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it, but I don't think that will be necessary. Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you! Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800 Cathy-0 Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field of the event. All events and information has been sourced and when I print the Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes. By entering data as events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline. And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that family members can easily find anyone of interest to them. Have you looked at the Descendants Book report? If not, take a look. Cathy Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the features of Legacy. Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a good start after I finish entering the information. Peggy From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about. Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of output? A story or history kind of book? Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all. Thank you if you can help, Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines:
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Lea-Anne, Firstly, let me say that I am just saying that this is the way in which I record data, and not a recommendation that anyone should change the way in which they work. I have not seen Geoff's webinar, but I know from the Sample File that I do not work the same way as Geoff. I should perhaps add that when deciding how I was going to store data my first consideration was how the data would look on the web, reports were a second consideration. These considerations led to me deciding not to have Census Events. There have been a number of previous discussions on LUG as to whether a census is an Event or a Source (please let's not debate it again - it's in the archives), and I do admit that I tend to come down on the side of it being a Source. Actually, I am mellowing as I get older, because at one time I would have said it was definitely only a Source :-). I do not record people who are not in any way related to my tree eg. servants etc. except where there is a special reason, eg. if a son marries the family's maid then I will put something in the Marriage Event . I am conscious that some will say I can easily miss connections this way, and I would not disagree, although I suspect that the number of times this happens is very low. If I wanted to I could always add them as a comment to the Source Detail - but I don't! My Residence Event is not a replacement for a Census Event, it is a record of where each person has lived and when; it can, therefore, include at birth, at marriage, at army registration, in fact whenever a new location crops up. Similarly I have Occupation Events where, again, I use the census as a Source. In fact if any data on the census can be used as a Source for any type of Event, then that is how I use it. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Lea-Anne Davison Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:42 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Ron Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Lea-Anne, Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. name, occupations, residences etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Lea-Anne Davison Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long winded. I have entered the census information for each family as per a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same census information as each member of the family appears in the report. This results in a very long report of some repeated information. Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear only once at the end of each family. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine then. From Jenny M Benson Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote: I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! ... What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief info-history of each person in the General Notes field. Then I will print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it, but I don't think that will be necessary. Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you! Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800 Cathy-0 Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field of the event. All events and information has been
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Well here I go again, trying to cut and paste to reply. I did re-subscribe and just sent back the confirmation email, so hopefully I'll start getting mail again. Actually, I won't cut and paste. I was interested in Ron's discussion of the census records. I guess from what he said, I could do a search on the topic, but that might be more confusing. I have been entering them as an event (for couples, if there is a family, or one person, if single). I put the whole text from the image into the citation and after than use just the census source and citation for other events. I do want to see the whole family printed out once. But I'm so new to all this I'm not sure how it's going to look when put into a report. For what I have in mind, for family wanting this in story form, the whole family together (in a census) once, might be interesting. In my notes when I put the book together, I can enter my thoughts and observations on the family changes and the history of the area. I don't know where to do that so it prints out in Legacy. If an ancestor was a farmer, I doubt it would be interesting to have it print out several times because it is found in several census lists. So I'm not sure how to deal with occupations. For myself, I want them all there. For the book I want what will hold attention of a non historian person. I've just begun to understand how important the places event is for timelines. And I haven't used it. So will have to go back and add them. I know I need to test the report features and see how it prints out now. Maybe that will give me ideas. The last time I put a book together for family members, I pretty much took the information and rewrote it, adding the photos I had. The trouble with that is that, after more research, a lot changes and somehow has to be incorporated into a new book, which, hopefully won't have to be completely rewritten! The never ending story. There are so many ways to do things, and I've just started. And I'm getting on in years so my time is limited. Back to work! Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
That's why I do not enter it the way Geoff recommends. When trying something new, I enter the data the new way and then run several different reports to see how it looks. Hopefully, Geoff will respond with some report settings that can keep the repetitions to a minimum. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:11:53 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long winded. I have entered the census information for each family as per a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same census information as each member of the family appears in the report. This results in a very long report of some repeated information. Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear only once at the end of each family. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine then. From Jenny M Benson Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote: I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! ... What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief info-history of each person in the General Notes field. Then I will print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it, but I don't think that will be necessary. Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you! Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800 Cathy-0 Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field of the event. All events and information has been sourced and when I print the Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes. By entering data as events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline. And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that family members can easily find anyone of interest to them. Have you looked at the Descendants Book report? If not, take a look. Cathy Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the features of Legacy. Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a good start after I finish entering the information. Peggy From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about. Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of output? A story or history kind of book? Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all. Thank you if you can help, Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
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Lea-Anne, I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the entire household in every event. I use a more narrative style and include just that person's information. For the couple, I add the event to the marriage. In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I use. Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation (entered in the Text field without checking that box). Hope this made sense. But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I do it in case it can be helpful to you. Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this feature and it is wonderful, very quick! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Ron Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Lea-Anne, Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. name, occupations, residences etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then source the census with the full details in the text field and see how that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all through the report. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the entire household in every event. I use a more narrative style and include just that person's information. For the couple, I add the event to the marriage. In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I use. Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation (entered in the Text field without checking that box). Hope this made sense. But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I do it in case it can be helpful to you. Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this feature and it is wonderful, very quick! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Ron Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Lea-Anne, Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. name, occupations, residences etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary definitions on this subject. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then source the census with the full details in the text field and see how that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all through the report. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburnpaula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the entire household in every event. I use a more narrative style and include just that person's information. For the couple, I add the event to the marriage. In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I use. Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation (entered in the Text field without checking that box). Hope this made sense. But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I do it in case it can be helpful to you. Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this feature and it is wonderful, very quick! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davisonleaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Ron Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Fergusonronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Lea-Anne, Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. name, occupations, residences etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
I think I am on the fence with the source vs event debate and certainly it wasn't my intention to start it up again. All I want is a way for the report to be easy to read and not have endless repetitions of the event that I put in, at this point - census.I will take the time to experiment and come up something that suits me. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 14:09, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary definitions on this subject. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then source the census with the full details in the text field and see how that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all through the report. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburnpaula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the entire household in every event. I use a more narrative style and include just that person's information. For the couple, I add the event to the marriage. In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I use. Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation (entered in the Text field without checking that box). Hope this made sense. But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I do it in case it can be helpful to you. Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this feature and it is wonderful, very quick! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davisonleaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Ron Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Fergusonronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Lea-Anne, Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. name, occupations, residences etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ snip Legacy User Group guidelines:
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Yeah, I understand and don't mean to be dogmatic about it. But I do think that your reports might come out better by treating events as sources, rather than events. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 11:18 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: I think I am on the fence with the source vs event debate and certainly it wasn't my intention to start it up again. All I want is a way for the report to be easy to read and not have endless repetitions of the event that I put in, at this point - census.I will take the time to experiment and come up something that suits me. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 14:09, Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary definitions on this subject. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then source the census with the full details in the text field and see how that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all through the report. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburnpaula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the entire household in every event. I use a more narrative style and include just that person's information. For the couple, I add the event to the marriage. In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I use. Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation (entered in the Text field without checking that box). Hope this made sense. But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I do it in case it can be helpful to you. Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this feature and it is wonderful, very quick! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davisonleaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Ron Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Fergusonronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Lea-Anne, Am I right in thinking that you have a
Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
Sorry, I meant to say ...better by treating a census as a source, rather than as an event... Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 11:33 PM, Jerry wrote: Yeah, I understand and don't mean to be dogmatic about it. But I do think that your reports might come out better by treating events as sources, rather than events. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 11:18 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: I think I am on the fence with the source vs event debate and certainly it wasn't my intention to start it up again. All I want is a way for the report to be easy to read and not have endless repetitions of the event that I put in, at this point - census.I will take the time to experiment and come up something that suits me. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 14:09, Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary definitions on this subject. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then source the census with the full details in the text field and see how that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all through the report. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Lea-Anne On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburnpaula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lea-Anne, I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the entire household in every event. I use a more narrative style and include just that person's information. For the couple, I add the event to the marriage. In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I use. Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation (entered in the Text field without checking that box). Hope this made sense. But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I do it in case it can be helpful to you. Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this feature and it is wonderful, very quick! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lea-Anne Davisonleaannedavi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports Ron Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered and does this then only show as one
[LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports
I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about. Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of output? A story or history kind of book? Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all. Thank you if you can help, Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
