RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records
And I was annoyed that they had my phone number ... I don't know where they got it. Yes they did call and I said no thanks ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON _ From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: March 24, 2011 08:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I'm VERY disappointed that Legacy is now officially associated with World Vital Records, according to their recent newsletter, and offer signed by Ken, Dave and Geoff. In that column World Vital Records.com boast of the world's largest map and tombstone photo collections, which is actually findagrave.com. findagrave has MANY faithful followers and volunteers of which I am a part. We have put in many hours to a website that stated our information would not be sold, but it apparently has been. If you search a name in World Vital records, your work that you voluntarily added to findagrave.com can now appear as theirs that people have to PAY to see. So how about the REAL truth from World Vital Records, apparently they just have some real good sales people. I have a paid subscription to World Vital Records, I received several phone calls, and numerous emails trying to get me to renew my subscription early, it became VERY annoying. I finally informed the last caller, that I had no intention of renewing, and just what I thought of World Vital Records and to STOP calling me. I had searched numerous times and and found nothing of value. Legacy's association with family search.org which also uses information from MANY volunteers, but family search is still a FREE web site and a good one at that. Most of us have searched it at some point in our hunt for our ancestors and it does a good service to the genealogy community. So what's going on with Legacy, is the interest still genealogy software? Syble Glasscock Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I to have received these calls, I told them the same, I did NOT want to hear from them again. They got upset when I told them that most of their links were from FREE sites. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com http://www.schmeckabernathy.com/ == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:couim...@cogeco.ca] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:30 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records And I was annoyed that they had my phone number ... I don't know where they got it. Yes they did call and I said no thanks ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON _ From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: March 24, 2011 08:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I'm VERY disappointed that Legacy is now officially associated with World Vital Records, according to their recent newsletter, and offer signed by Ken, Dave and Geoff. In that column World Vital Records.com boast of the world's largest map and tombstone photo collections, which is actually findagrave.com. findagrave has MANY faithful followers and volunteers of which I am a part. We have put in many hours to a website that stated our information would not be sold, but it apparently has been. If you search a name in World Vital records, your work that you voluntarily added to findagrave.com can now appear as theirs that people have to PAY to see. So how about the REAL truth from World Vital Records, apparently they just have some real good sales people. I have a paid subscription to World Vital Records, I received several phone calls, and numerous emails trying to get me to renew my subscription early, it became VERY annoying. I finally informed the last caller, that I had no intention of renewing, and just what I thought of World Vital Records and to STOP calling me. I had searched numerous times and and found nothing of value. Legacy's association with family search.org which also uses information from MANY volunteers, but family search is still a FREE web site and a good one at that. Most of us have searched it at some point in our hunt for our ancestors and it does a good service to the genealogy community. So what's going on with Legacy, is the interest still genealogy software? Syble Glasscock Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I wondered where they got mine also, but I have, if absolutely required put mine in with an order, so I'm not 100% sure about that. One call was bad enough, they ask who and where was I researching, said they wanted to know so as to what direction to further their data in, but they continued to call at least 3 times it was in the middle of a subscription period and by then I was annoyed. Syble --- On Thu, 3/24/11, C.G. Ouimet couim...@cogeco.ca wrote: From: C.G. Ouimet couim...@cogeco.ca Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:30 PM And I was annoyed that they had my phone number ... I don't know where they got it. Yes they did call and I said no thanks ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: March 24, 2011 08:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I'm VERY disappointed that Legacy is now officially associated with World Vital Records, according to their recent newsletter, and offer signed by Ken, Dave and Geoff. In that column World Vital Records.com boast of the world's largest map and tombstone photo collections, which is actually findagrave.com. findagrave has MANY faithful followers and volunteers of which I am a part. We have put in many hours to a website that stated our information would not be sold, but it apparently has been. If you search a name in World Vital records, your work that you voluntarily added to findagrave.com can now appear as theirs that people have to PAY to see. So how about the REAL truth from World Vital Records, apparently they just have some real good sales people. I have a paid subscription to World Vital Records, I received several phone calls, and numerous emails trying to get me to renew my subscription early, it became VERY annoying. I finally informed the last caller, that I had no intention of renewing, and just what I thought of World Vital Records and to STOP calling me. I had searched numerous times and and found nothing of value. Legacy's association with family search.org which also uses information from MANY volunteers, but family search is still a FREE web site and a good one at that. Most of us have searched it at some point in our hunt for our ancestors and it does a good service to the genealogy community. So what's going on with Legacy, is the interest still genealogy software? Syble Glasscock Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I’m not too happy either about this! I got a call from GenealogyBank.com yesterday and I’d like to know how they got my cell phone number. I don’t give that out to companies unless I absolutely have to. I don’t remember giving it to Legacy either, but if I did I don’t appreciate them giving out my phone number to other companies. I get enough wrong number calls as it is and don’t need more companies calling me selling something I have no interest in. Obviously our information is being sold out to other companies. Because very few people have my cell phone number, I can’t figure out how Legacy got it. If I freely gave it to them, they did not have my permission to give it to anyone else. The person calling said they were from Legacy Family Tree, but were really pushing a subscription to GenealogyBank.com at a reduced rate. I told the man that I don’t do much research anymore and I don’t have time. He pushed to give me a free month because I’m in the middle of a move and won’t have time to research. They are selling annual subscriptions. I really don’t have any interest in it right now, but this guy was giving the hard sell. He said he’s calling back next week, but I doubt I’ll change my mind. I never heard of GenealogyBank.com and this person said they’ve been around for about four years. Supposedly they are connected to NewsBank.com. I agree with you about these annoying calls and hard sells. My thinking is: I’ll call them; don’t call me. I can waste my money on other things that I can use. This is not one of them. World Vital Records never was any good. I’ve never found anything on it that was useful, and like you said they seem to link to a lot of free information. Why should we pay for that? Bill Boswell From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I'm VERY disappointed that Legacy is now officially associated with World Vital Records, according to their recent newsletter, and offer signed by Ken, Dave and Geoff. In that column World Vital Records.com boast of the world's largest map and tombstone photo collections, which is actually findagrave.com. findagrave has MANY faithful followers and volunteers of which I am a part. We have put in many hours to a website that stated our information would not be sold, but it apparently has been. If you search a name in World Vital records, your work that you voluntarily added to findagrave.com can now appear as theirs that people have to PAY to see. So how about the REAL truth from World Vital Records, apparently they just have some real good sales people. I have a paid subscription to World Vital Records, I received several phone calls, and numerous emails trying to get me to renew my subscription early, it became VERY annoying. I finally informed the last caller, that I had no intention of renewing, and just what I thought of World Vital Records and to STOP calling me. I had searched numerous times and and found nothing of value. Legacy's association with family search.org which also uses information from MANY volunteers, but family search is still a FREE web site and a good one at that. Most of us have searched it at some point in our hunt for our ancestors and it does a good service to the genealogy community. So what's going on with Legacy, is the interest still genealogy software? Syble Glasscock Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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GenealogyBank.com did a “free” lookup for me and said they got 35 hits as if to indicate they might have something. I’ve gotten more on other sites and none of those hits were applicable so I’m not going to fall for that line. Is GenealogyBank associated with WorldVitalRecords? He said they have a genealogist on their staff with over 40 years of experience and you get his/her services for free if you subscribe. I told him what good would that be if the information is just not available. I know how to research myself so what do I need a genealogist researcher for if the information I need was burned in a fire two hundred years ago. My ancestors were at the front of the line burning those records because there is nothing available. Bill Boswell From: David C Abernathy [mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I to have received these calls, I told them the same, I did NOT want to hear from them again. They got upset when I told them that most of their links were from FREE sites. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com http://www.schmeckabernathy.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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From the Legacy Download Page: “Your email address and any optional Name and Address information will be kept confidential. “ Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Ron Bernier Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records What I find very disturbing about this response from Ken is that there is absolutely no denial that Millennia has given out personal information provided to them by their customers. I find this despicable. Millennia has made the conscious decision that their profits are more important than the privacy of their customers. This demonstrates a total lack of integrity on the part of Millennia.. I will continue to use the product that I have paid for, but Millennia will receive no further business from me. In addition, I will no longer recommend Legacy or their add ons. I will do everything in my power to convince other acquaintances to refrain from doing any further business with Millennia. Regards, Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI From: KenMcGinnis [kenmcgin...@legacyusers..com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records Syble and others, Great genealogy software is still our main focus and we are also excited about offering great genealogy training which is why we are doing so many Webinars. We have partnered with a few other genealogy companies that we like. When I say partnered I simply mean that we have agreed with a few other companies like GenealogyBank and WorldVitalRecords in order to bring great deals to our users and for their companies to do the same with their users and help us introduce Legacy to them. The promotions usually allow us to offer what we feel are great companies and what they do for very substantial discounts. This is good for our users who are doing research and want an inexpensive way of trying some of the different companies that are out there. It also allows us to tell all of their customers about Legacy Family Tree. Our goal is to tell the world about Legacy and to continue to work hard on Legacy adding innovative features. I cannot speak for WorldVitalRecords and why they are promoting Find a Grave as if it was their own but there must be some agreements between those two companies or I would think Find a Grave would sue or at least ask them to stop what they are doing. Again, this statement by me has no merit other than it's my opinion as I simply don't know the details between these two companies. If this is a concern to you then you really should follow through and contact both of those companies and work with them to get an answer as to what's going on. WorldVitalRecords has many records that FamilySearch, Ancestry, GenealogyBank, Find a Grave and may other sites do not have. When researching I think many will try as many different sites as they can in order to find the records they are looking for. Often only one company will a license to the data a county (or who ever) has collected and if you were to only look on FamilySearch for your ancestors they may not have the records that you need. I do love FamilySearch especially because it's free and they have tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands indexing the records for them which is making the records easy to search. Isn't it great how the companies listed above continue to constantly add new records . Syble, Thank you for your many hours of service with Find a Grave. We also thank all the rest of you who have volunteered with similar projects like Indexing FamilySearch records. It's only with lots of help from everyone that great things happen. Thank to all of you for your service!!! Thanks, Ken McGinnis Millennia Corporation kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! From: Syble Glasscock syble_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I'm VERY disappointed that Legacy is now officially associated with World Vital Records, according to their recent newsletter, and offer signed by Ken, Dave and Geoff. In that column World Vital Records.com boast of the world's largest map and tombstone photo collections, which is actually findagrave.com. findagrave has MANY faithful followers and volunteers of which I am a part.. We have put in many hours to a website that stated our information would not be sold, but it apparently has been. If you search a name in World Vital records, your work that you voluntarily added to findagrave.com can now appear as theirs that people have to PAY to see. So how about the REAL truth from World Vital Records, apparently they just have some real good sales people. I have a paid subscription to World Vital Records, I received several phone calls
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:40:22 EDT, salude...@aol.com wrote: I also got 2 calls a few weeks ago from these people Anybody got the phone number or city they are calling from? We have caller id and we religiously let calls go to the answering machine if we do not recognize the caller. Sometimes we let it go to the answering machine WHEN WE DO KNOW THE CALLER. ;-) But I am now wondering if some of the persistent calls are from these companies. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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About a month ago, I also got a solicitation call from GenealogyBank -- on my cell phone. I don't recall giving that info. to Legacy either. My guess is Millennia gave or sold its user list -- perhaps just with name and e-mail -- to Genealogy Bank, who used public records searches to obtain the other information. Such methods are not uncommon. A company doesn't need to be provided your phone number to figure it out in today's less-than-private technology world. Scott On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:40:22 EDT, salude...@aol.com wrote: I also got 2 calls a few weeks ago from these people Anybody got the phone number or city they are calling from? We have caller id and we religiously let calls go to the answering machine if we do not recognize the caller. Sometimes we let it go to the answering machine WHEN WE DO KNOW THE CALLER. ;-) But I am now wondering if some of the persistent calls are from these companies. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I was told by the guy from GenealogyBank.com that he was calling from Utah. I figure somewhere near Salt Lake City where most of these companies are from. The number on my cell phone is: 1-866-641-3297. Since it's a toll free number, it could be from anywhere or a bogus number that can't be called back. I've found this to be true for a lot of other calls I've gotten where the number on the caller idea is not a real number for the company. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:40:22 EDT, salude...@aol.com wrote: I also got 2 calls a few weeks ago from these people Anybody got the phone number or city they are calling from? We have caller id and we religiously let calls go to the answering machine if we do not recognize the caller. Sometimes we let it go to the answering machine WHEN WE DO KNOW THE CALLER. ;-) But I am now wondering if some of the persistent calls are from these companies. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:11:46 -0700, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote: Caller ID spoofing is the practice of causing the telephone network to display a number on the recipient's Caller ID display which is not that of the actual originating station. True, but if a company like the one's being discussed are spoofing telno's, then ... case closed. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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We once had a number that was one digit different from a local duscount store. Most of the callers were certain that they had dialled the right number. I finally started telling them that stock on the item of interest was limited, but I would put one back for them - they should ask for Jason to get the item. The problem went away when the store closed a couple of years later. We moved about six years ago and got a new phone number. It had been the home and work number of someone who ran a contracting company. The company apparently shut down and disappeared into the night, but we didn't discover any of that until after updating our number with family and business contacts (and having new business cards printed). The people looking for money or warranty service stopped calling after a year or so, but the guy never updated his phone number with his doctor, pharmacy, etc. Appointment reminders and Your prescription is ready messages were still coming to the number in year five. Having a common name (would you believe 20+ of us in the metro area?) means I have received calls intended for many of the others. The best call was an offer to be Head of Pediatrics at a hospital in North Carolina. As good as I am in many areas, I'm not qualified for that one ;-) John My biggest gripe is that because I receive so many wrong numbers on my house phone I don't want my cell number published anywhere because criminals are using other people's numbers for loans. Twice now I've had federal and local law enforcement agencies call me looking for these people then think I'm hiding them somewhere. Not to mention all the collection services that call daily. It's just harrassment. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I did a search on the phone number and it is, according to my search, located in Naples, Florida. Not that I am an overly intelligent fellow, my suspicion is that they are all going toward a affiliation. Also, I really appreciate the webinars, I am going to miss the free handouts. They are now bundled with the CD's. Robert Coburn - Original Message - From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I was told by the guy from GenealogyBank.com that he was calling from Utah. I figure somewhere near Salt Lake City where most of these companies are from. The number on my cell phone is: 1-866-641-3297. Since it's a toll free number, it could be from anywhere or a bogus number that can't be called back. I've found this to be true for a lot of other calls I've gotten where the number on the caller idea is not a real number for the company. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:40:22 EDT, salude...@aol.com wrote: I also got 2 calls a few weeks ago from these people Anybody got the phone number or city they are calling from? We have caller id and we religiously let calls go to the answering machine if we do not recognize the caller. Sometimes we let it go to the answering machine WHEN WE DO KNOW THE CALLER. ;-) But I am now wondering if some of the persistent calls are from these companies. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I too used a trial. After searching for easy records that I had already found on Ancestry and SSDI and not finding one hit on their site I called and cancelled in less than 24 hours. Their search was useless to me and I will not do business with them! I believe Millenia is using them for data mining to get new leads/subscribers for Legacy. While this arrangement may be legal it is certainly despicable. I would not have thought Millenia would get involved with a company that seems so unworthy. Larry Lee On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:02 PM, DianeLeMasson dianelemas...@optonline.net wrote: I too received a call from this company a few years ago, curosity of Legacy. They will lie to you and tell you they have every record you need to complete your search. They said they have more than ancestry has but are cheaper with discount. I told them my family didn't come to the US untill after 1920 so anything before is useless. They assured me I would not have a problem because of how up to date they are. Well took the bait but in 6 hours I realized how wrong they were. Census were not complete and if I recall, don't hang me if I'm wrong, 1930 was no where complete if any. There was so much missing records it was a joke. Next morning cancel it with no problem. The girl who took my information informed me the owner of this company use to own ancestry and was shock when I told her about the missing census files. Since I cancel they keep calling and I get tons of emails. What a shame we have to deal with such dishonestly Diane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Do not knock World Vital Recordsthey have many things Ancestry does not have it did give me some material and had them for a short time and gleamed all I needed and then went on... They have a lot and are growing in areas that the other sites are not covering... most of my research isn't in the area they cover but have used them to help other researchers find material for their trees... it would take many pages to explain the specialized material they have others do not. Richard From: ldlee...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:55:59 -0700 I too used a trial. After searching for easy records that I had already found on Ancestry and SSDI and not finding one hit on their site I called and cancelled in less than 24 hours. Their search was useless to me and I will not do business with them! I believe Millenia is using them for data mining to get new leads/subscribers for Legacy. While this arrangement may be legal it is certainly despicable. I would not have thought Millenia would get involved with a company that seems so unworthy. Larry Lee On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:02 PM, DianeLeMasson dianelemas...@optonline.net wrote: I too received a call from this company a few years ago, curosity of Legacy. They will lie to you and tell you they have every record you need to complete your search. They said they have more than ancestry has but are cheaper with discount. I told them my family didn't come to the US untill after 1920 so anything before is useless. They assured me I would not have a problem because of how up to date they are. Well took the bait but in 6 hours I realized how wrong they were. Census were not complete and if I recall, don't hang me if I'm wrong, 1930 was no where complete if any. There was so much missing records it was a joke. Next morning cancel it with no problem. The girl who took my information informed me the owner of this company use to own ancestry and was shock when I told her about the missing census files. Since I cancel they keep calling and I get tons of emails. What a shame we have to deal with such dishonestly Diane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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It may be useful to know exactly what company you are speaking of. World Vital Records became FamilyLink in 2008 and since then a number of brands have come under that name. If you do genealogy on facebook or other social networks, you may have encountered the company through its brand there which is called FamilyLink. If you twitter, it's BigFamilyPhotos.com WorldHistory.com is another of its brands. The company is headed by Paul Allen - who in fact was one of the co-founders of Ancestry.com but, if memory serves me right, he was one of the first to leave that company. GenealogyBank (which I use and have found quite a bit on that I have not found on Ancestry and other such sites because of its vast number of actual newspaper images) is a product produced by NewsBank. A number of the products you may connect to through your local library may in fact be NewsBank brands. Trying to put everything under the same umbrella confuses the issues here - but World Vital Records may have gotten your phone numbers through any variety of genealogy products you may have interacted with in the past. I tend to steer clear of any of the affiliates of World Vital Records but I am a registered user of Legacy. I have yet to get a telephone call from World Vital Records on any of my three phone lines. And just to confuse the issue more - several friends of mine who do not use Legacy have reported the same type phone calls to me recently and with no particular tie in that we can find other than they've noted their interest in family research. I do find the email tie-in emails I get from World Vital Records about their Legacy offers confusing - and do think it is something Geoff and crew might want to look at. Those offers do somewhat indicate that Legacy and WorldVital Records are the same company. Cheers, Jackie On 3/24/2011 6:55 PM, Larry Lee wrote: I too used a trial. After searching for easy records that I had already found on Ancestry and SSDI and not finding one hit on their site I called and cancelled in less than 24 hours. Their search was useless to me and I will not do business with them! I believe Millenia is using them for data mining to get new leads/subscribers for Legacy. While this arrangement may be legal it is certainly despicable. I would not have thought Millenia would get involved with a company that seems so unworthy. Larry Lee On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:02 PM, DianeLeMasson dianelemas...@optonline.net wrote: I too received a call from this company a few years ago, curosity of Legacy. They will lie to you and tell you they have every record you need to complete your search. They said they have more than ancestry has but are cheaper with discount. I told them my family didn't come to the US untill after 1920 so anything before is useless. They assured me I would not have a problem because of how up to date they are. Well took the bait but in 6 hours I realized how wrong they were. Census were not complete and if I recall, don't hang me if I'm wrong, 1930 was no where complete if any. There was so much missing records it was a joke. Next morning cancel it with no problem. The girl who took my information informed me the owner of this company use to own ancestry and was shock when I told her about the missing census files. Since I cancel they keep calling and I get tons of emails. What a shame we have to deal with such dishonestly Diane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I am also on No Call List. When first enrolled I recieved a few unwanted phone calls. I politely listened, ask for the person's name and phone number, then called the number, asked for the supervisor, explained to him that I was going to call the 'no call' people and report his employee to them. One call was all I needed. Good luck. Six years running. Rich in LA CA --- On Thu, 3/24/11, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 11:20 AM I prefer emails and not phone calls. I get enough wrong numbers and collection calls for other people (average 12 a day) some in different languages. I also do not appreciate anyone calling my cell phone number unless I gave them permission to use it. I did not give any permission to Legacy Family Tree to sell out my phone number to some company I have no interest in either. I’m also on the Do Not Call list, which is apparently useless because I still get calls from everywhere. The problem is once you give it to one company, they give it to others and very few companies abide by their own rule that they will not sell our personal information. They do if it’s to their advantage to profit from it. Bill Boswell From: KenMcGinnis [mailto:kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records Syble and others, Great genealogy software is still our main focus and we are also excited about offering great genealogy training which is why we are doing so many Webinars. We have partnered with a few other genealogy companies that we like. When I say partnered I simply mean that we have agreed with a few other companies like GenealogyBank and WorldVitalRecords in order to bring great deals to our users and for their companies to do the same with their users and help us introduce Legacy to them. The promotions usually allow us to offer what we feel are great companies and what they do for very substantial discounts. This is good for our users who are doing research and want an inexpensive way of trying some of the different companies that are out there. It also allows us to tell all of their customers about Legacy Family Tree. Our goal is to tell the world about Legacy and to continue to work hard on Legacy adding innovative features. I cannot speak for WorldVitalRecords and why they are promoting Find a Grave as if it was their own but there must be some agreements between those two companies or I would think Find a Grave would sue or at least ask them to stop what they are doing. Again, this statement by me has no merit other than it's my opinion as I simply don't know the details between these two companies. If this is a concern to you then you really should follow through and contact both of those companies and work with them to get an answer as to what's going on. WorldVitalRecords has many records that FamilySearch, Ancestry, GenealogyBank, Find a Grave and may other sites do not have. When researching I think many will try as many different sites as they can in order to find the records they are looking for. Often only one company will a license to the data a county (or who ever) has collected and if you were to only look on FamilySearch for your ancestors they may not have the records that you need. I do love FamilySearch especially because it's free and they have tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands indexing the records for them which is making the records easy to search. Isn't it great how the companies listed above continue to constantly add new records . Syble, Thank you for your many hours of service with Find a Grave. We also thank all the rest of you who have volunteered with similar projects like Indexing FamilySearch records. It's only with lots of help from everyone that great things happen. Thank to all of you for your service!!! Thanks, Ken McGinnis Millennia Corporation kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! From: Syble Glasscock syble_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I'm VERY disappointed that Legacy is now officially associated with World Vital Records, according to their recent newsletter, and offer signed by Ken, Dave and Geoff. In that column World Vital Records.com boast of the world's largest map and tombstone photo collections, which is actually findagrave.com. findagrave has MANY faithful followers and volunteers of which I am a part. We have put in many hours to a website that stated our information would not be sold, but it apparently
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They asked for me personally so I knew they had my number. All those other calls I get they are always asking for the same person. I’ll be glad when my phone is disconnected. From: Eliz Hanebury [mailto:elizhg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records Just to make it worse, they could be intending to call a land line in their area and instead getting an out of state cell phone, I have had that happen to me when making a call. Or they could just be using the autodialer that dials all possible combinations. Eliz On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:55 PM, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: My name and address is not associated with my cell phone number online unless they got the information from ATT or the Do Not Call list both of whom I highly suspect now because very few people have my cell phone number. I thought it was very odd they were calling on my cell phone number. When/if he calls next week I'm going to ask him where he got my cell phone number from and why didn't he call my home number? My biggest gripe is that because I receive so many wrong numbers on my house phone I don't want my cell number published anywhere because criminals are using other people's numbers for loans. Twice now I've had federal and local law enforcement agencies call me looking for these people then think I'm hiding them somewhere. Not to mention all the collection services that call daily. It's just harrassment. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I turned in a few of these collection companies for other people and those calls stopped until a new company started calling. They must pass the files around from one company to another. I’m going to turn in GenealogyBank.com because I never asked for their service and my cell phone number has been on the not call list for over three years. Bill Boswell From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I am also on No Call List. When first enrolled I recieved a few unwanted phone calls. I politely listened, ask for the person's name and phone number, then called the number, asked for the supervisor, explained to him that I was going to call the 'no call' people and report his employee to them. One call was all I needed. Good luck. Six years running. Rich in LA CA --- On Thu, 3/24/11, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 11:20 AM I prefer emails and not phone calls. I get enough wrong numbers and collection calls for other people (average 12 a day) some in different languages. I also do not appreciate anyone calling my cell phone number unless I gave them permission to use it. I did not give any permission to Legacy Family Tree to sell out my phone number to some company I have no interest in either. I’m also on the Do Not Call list, which is apparently useless because I still get calls from everywhere. The problem is once you give it to one company, they give it to others and very few companies abide by their own rule that they will not sell our personal information. They do if it’s to their advantage to profit from it. Bill Boswell From: KenMcGinnis [mailto:kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records Syble and others, Great genealogy software is still our main focus and we are also excited about offering great genealogy training which is why we are doing so many Webinars. We have partnered with a few other genealogy companies that we like. When I say partnered I simply mean that we have agreed with a few other companies like GenealogyBank and WorldVitalRecords in order to bring great deals to our users and for their companies to do the same with their users and help us introduce Legacy to them. The promotions usually allow us to offer what we feel are great companies and what they do for very substantial discounts. This is good for our users who are doing research and want an inexpensive way of trying some of the different companies that are out there. It also allows us to tell all of their customers about Legacy Family Tree. Our goal is to tell the world about Legacy and to continue to work hard on Legacy adding innovative features. I cannot speak for WorldVitalRecords and why they are promoting Find a Grave as if it was their own but there must be some agreements between those two companies or I would think Find a Grave would sue or at least ask them to stop what they are doing. Again, this statement by me has no merit other than it's my opinion as I simply don't know the details between these two companies. If this is a concern to you then you really should follow through and contact both of those companies and work with them to get an answer as to what's going on. WorldVitalRecords has many records that FamilySearch, Ancestry, GenealogyBank, Find a Grave and may other sites do not have. When researching I think many will try as many different sites as they can in order to find the records they are looking for. Often only one company will a license to the data a county (or who ever) has collected and if you were to only look on FamilySearch for your ancestors they may not have the records that you need. I do love FamilySearch especially because it's free and they have tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands indexing the records for them which is making the records easy to search. Isn't it great how the companies listed above continue to constantly add new records . Syble, Thank you for your many hours of service with Find a Grave. We also thank all the rest of you who have volunteered with similar projects like Indexing FamilySearch records. It's only with lots of help from everyone that great things happen. Thank to all of you for your service!!! Thanks, Ken McGinnis Millennia Corporation kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! _ From: Syble Glasscock syble_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup
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I should mention as a retired call center collector that outbound calls would be made from different numbers than inbound calls would be directed. So you could think it was a spoof number when it wasn't. I would image that most centers that do outbound calling have that type of a phone system. Also I have not received any calls from GenealogyBank.com. I get a lot of E-Mails from World Vital Records because I bit on their free days during some holiday or special about a year ago. I just couldn't figure out how to do an effective search. Ancestry may not bring up what I want immediately; but I can usually find some way to get the info. Charlotte -Original Message- From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:11 pm Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records What is displayed on Caller ID does not have to be the number from which the call is made. Caller ID spoofing is the practice of causing the telephone network to display a number on the recipient's Caller ID display which is not that of the actual originating station. Programs that do this are for sale everywhere. A solicitor was once dumb enough to spoof MY phone number when calling me! CE From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records I was told by the guy from GenealogyBank.com that he was calling from Utah. I figure somewhere near Salt Lake City where most of these companies are from. The number on my cell phone is: 1-866-641-3297. Since it's a toll free number, it could be from anywhere or a bogus number that can't be called back. I've found this to be true for a lot of other calls I've gotten where the number on the caller idea is not a real number for the company. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:40:22 EDT, salude...@aol.com wrote: I also got 2 calls a few weeks ago from these people Anybody got the phone number or city they are calling from? We have caller id and we religiously let calls go to the answering machine if we do not recognize the caller. Sometimes we let it go to the answering machine WHEN WE DO KNOW THE CALLER. ;-) But I am now wondering if some of the persistent calls are from these companies. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp