Re: which TV card?
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 09:08:40AM +0200, shlomo solomon wrote: On Thursday 16 January 2003 19:30, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: One more thing - about quality: I could barely see anything with the card as-is. I bought a cable-signal-amplifier (around 100 NIS at home- center), and with it most channels are fine. A notable exception is channel 3, which is also of lower quality in a real TV. I think this is After reading this comment on signal quality, I decided to try a few more experiments on the non-functional FlyVideo2000 before buying a new bt8* card. Since I made some proghress and found real differences between the way the card works under Linux and Windows, I think this is still, at least partially, on topic. Here's what I did: Instead of buying a cable-signal-amplifier as Yedidyah suggested, I hooked the card up to a VCR Good idea. and tred it on my machine and my wife's Windows machine. Here are the results: Windows: - Good reception but no colour - No audio. - The bundled software allows me to change window size or use as full screen. Linux: - After modprobe saa7134 I got an icon on the desk-top and clicking it gave me an excellent colour picture (as opposed to black-and-white on Windows), so this is better than Windows. - Here too there's no audio. I don't know about saa7134 but with bttv you also have to load tuner.o with a correct 'type='. - I can only enlarge the window to about 2/3 of the height and 2/3 of the width of the screen. Choosing full screen gives me a window of the same size (not a full screen) on a black background. I tried changing resolution to 640x480 and the TV picture then filled the screen, but this is obviously not a solution I want to use - I run at 1024x768. While I recommend you do move to 640x480 while watching TV (which should not be too hard - a Ctrl-Alt-+ with a well-configured X), you can try the '-remote' option of xawtv and see if it works better (but much slower, unless on a fast machine). The fact that there's no audio on Windows or Linux led me to believe that maybe I'd connected someting wrong, but I don't think this is the case since the FM radio tuner on the card does work (I only tried on Windows, but that does prove the wires are connected properly). Any comments on the audio and resolution problems would be appreciated. TIA BTW - I also tried Kwintv as an alternative to xawtv, but there were so many error messages (and no help file), that at the moment, I don't see any point wasting time on it. The front-end is much more polished than xawtv, but if it doesn't even detect the TV device, this alpha software is not yet ready. But, based on good experience with KDE, I think when the bugs get fixed, this will be a good program. -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.0.3) on LINUX Mandrake 9.0 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
On Sunday 19 January 2003 09:19, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Bezeq just contacted me, saying that they want to replace the ADSL modem I am currently using with a Samsung ADSL modem (I don't have the specific model yet). The Samusung is NIC based as well. Anyone using this ADSL modem with Linux? does it work out of the box, not work at all, or require a kernel module or some other travesty? If you have Alcatel, then stick with it. Don't replace it (yet). I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem (external) Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Samsung ADSL modems
I have it, and u only need the http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ client to set it up. it takes a few minutes. There is a another problem though! if u can avoid replacing the modem then do it. it turns out that on high stress the modem gets stuck. the only way i can reproduce it is running overnet with 150 connections + for 2 to 3 days. at first it slowly but surely starts to get slower and slower. even if u just pull the overnet off for a few hrs, it won't matter. plus, without overnet, it takes it about a month or so to get stuck, again with average load. but surely it gets slower before that. but that can be solved at the early stages by stopping and starting the adsl connection modem, but this i am not sure off. so be warned. i tried to talk to them to replace my modem, but they didn't came back to me and i don't have the time to deal with it right now. and didn't for the last 2 months. n.b: when i say gets stuck, i mean the modem is not responsive and u can't ping or connect to it. the only way to get it back is to pull the plug. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Muli Ben-Yehuda Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:19 AM To: Marc's List Subject: Samsung ADSL modems Bezeq just contacted me, saying that they want to replace the ADSL modem I am currently using with a Samsung ADSL modem (I don't have the specific model yet). The Samusung is NIC based as well. Anyone using this ADSL modem with Linux? does it work out of the box, not work at all, or require a kernel module or some other travesty? I should be getting it later today or tomorrow and do some investigating. I'll keep the list posted. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:06:30AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: If you have Alcatel, then stick with it. Don't replace it (yet). I have Orckit, and I'm very happy with it thus far. The problem is that Bezeq is making noises as though they are replacing their entire Merkaziya, and you have to switch to the Samsung modem. I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem (external) Such as? please be specific, maybe we can solve some of them. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEWS: Cables configuration
Hi! The setup looks ok. I'd remove nis from nsswitch.conf , since I believe Eran does not have a Linux farm ... so I'd change the hosts line in that file to be: hosts: files dns Anyway, I think it is not the problem. Start ethereal to capture traffic from eth0 and then try to do some kind of name resolution (nslookup, host etc) Dani On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, guy keren wrote: On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: Quoth Eran Levy: Yes I have DNS resolution problem. Im not uses my own DNS server. Im using Netvision's DNS server only. here are the files: /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver 194.90.1.5 add a domain foo.com or search bar.net to this file. doesn't sound relevant to the problem. the 'search' or 'domain' entries are used just to optimize the queries - not to make them 'correct'. this addition simplyallows partial domain names lookup to work (i.e. searching for 'foo', which is under the 'bar.net' domain, will work if the 'search bar.net' entry is found in resolv.conf). thus, i presume this is not going to solve the problem (unless the user was trying to look up such partial names, and expected this to work without the 'domain' or 'search' entries). -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
On Sunday 19 January 2003 08:28, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:06:30AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: If you have Alcatel, then stick with it. Don't replace it (yet). I have Orckit, and I'm very happy with it thus far. The problem is that Bezeq is making noises as though they are replacing their entire Merkaziya, and you have to switch to the Samsung modem. Same situtation happend here (from Orckit to Samsung). It worked out of the box. It uses PPPoE. You can get the dialer from http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem Such as? please be specific, maybe we can solve some of them. No such experience here. Worked out of the box with no problems, was easy to setup, just as pptp. -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
Title: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free. Hari Grinberg System Eng' - Projects Platform Engineering Project Delivery - Jerusalem Phone: + 972 (0)2 5894748 Mobile: +972 (0) 55 664748 Fax: +972 (0) 2 5894725 __ Information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original message.
Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote: Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW or free. cygwin... The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program. But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications, and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything else. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
On 2003-01-19 Grinberg, Hari wrote: Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free. Exceed is an X server. In unix, graphics are based on X anyway, so you already have the X server installed! You just need to know how it works. I don't know what you want to do. If you just want to display a graphical application on your RedHat display, you don't need to do anything special (except for setting the $DISPLAY variable on your remote machine). I would recommed this, because I can't imagine why you need something more complicated. on your remote machine define an environment variable DISPLAY === redhatbox:0.0 and make sure your redhat box allows connections (man xhost or xauth) and then on your remote machine type the name of your graphical app and that's it. If you really want the entire 'desktop environment' of the remote machine (for some reason), you can run a second X server, next to the default one on your RedHat box. I'm not very experienced in this, but my X server usually runs under virtual terminal 7 (ctrl-alt-F7), and it is simle to start another one under (ctrl-alt-F8), by going to your console, and typing something like this: XFree86: startx -- :1.0 -auth /dev/null (yes I know, the -auth thing is probably wrong..) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed: On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote: I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free. In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW He said shareware *or* free, meaning he knows these are two different things... cygwin... The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program. But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications, and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything else. Hari, maybe I misunderstood you but you said you wanted something like Exceed for *Linux*??? Redhat already has a fine X server, and you don't need anything like Exceed on it... In fact, Exceed is based on the Unix X-Windows servers... If you were thinking of Excell (a spreadsheet), try OpenOffice, or one of the dozen other free spreadsheets (gnumeric, etc.). -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 19 2003, 16 Shevat 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Today is the tomorrow you worried about http://nadav.harel.org.il |yesterday, and now you know why. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
Title: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed Hey, You could use cygwins XFree.. which is a port of XFree to windows. You can find cygwin under www.cygwin.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Grinberg, Hari Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free. Hari Grinberg System Eng' - Projects Platform Engineering Project Delivery - Jerusalem Phone: + 972 (0)2 5894748 Mobile: +972 (0) 55 664748 Fax: +972 (0) 2 5894725 __ Information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original message.
RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
Are there numerous versions for cygwin? I've downloaded it from redhat site, installed it and found no gcc came with it... barak. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:54 To: Grinberg, Hari Cc: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote: Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW or free. cygwin... The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program. But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications, and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything else. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
You can select which libraries to download install during setup. Make sure gcc is marked. Read the cygwin installation manual. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of barak yaish Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:38 PM To: Tzafrir Cohen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed Are there numerous versions for cygwin? I've downloaded it from redhat site, installed it and found no gcc came with it... barak. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, barak yaish wrote: Are there numerous versions for cygwin? I've downloaded it from redhat site, installed it and found no gcc came with it... barak. cygwin has an installer to incrementally install more software from the Internet. Use it to install gcc and everything else you need. Regards, Shlomi Fish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:54 To: Grinberg, Hari Cc: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote: Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW or free. cygwin... The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program. But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications, and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything else. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups... Wait a second - is n a natural number? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
Thanks for help I try to install cygwin on a Win2K system I don't know it is looking more as a CRT program not a X based or I did something Wrong. -Original Message- From: Shlomi Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2003 12:55 PM To: barak yaish Cc: Tzafrir Cohen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, barak yaish wrote: Are there numerous versions for cygwin? I've downloaded it from redhat site, installed it and found no gcc came with it... barak. cygwin has an installer to incrementally install more software from the Internet. Use it to install gcc and everything else you need. Regards, Shlomi Fish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:54 To: Grinberg, Hari Cc: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote: Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW or free. cygwin... The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program. But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications, and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything else. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups... Wait a second - is n a natural number? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original message. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEWS: Cables configuration
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Dani Arbel wrote: Hi! The setup looks ok. I'd remove nis from nsswitch.conf , since I believe Eran does not have a Linux farm ... so I'd change the hosts line in that file to be: hosts: files dns Anyway, I think it is not the problem. Start ethereal to capture traffic from eth0 and then try to do some kind of name resolution (nslookup, host etc) could it be that he has a firewall setup that blocks his DNS requests? they go over UDP connect5ions, and if one blocks all UDP ports, one gets stuck. eran? any firewall set up there? you can also try to make DNS queries directly to the DNS server, using the 'host' command. something like: host ftp.netvision.net.il 194.90.1.5 'host' will query the given name server (194.90.1.5) directly for the details of 'ftp.netvision.net.il'. if this works, it means no firewall problems. if this does not work - i'd suggest making sure the firewall is (temporarily) disabled (if indeed it is running at all) by 'iptables -F', and then running this check again. please note that in current distributions, one chooses the firewalling level during system installation, and you _might_ have accidentally set it up, and a mode that blocks your DNS queries (or the DNS replies). -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
adsl usb modems
Hi all, I would like to know the status of adsl usb modems, (which ever models actcom gives out this days). How mauch are those modems supported, and how much are good or not. From what I hear it's not: I would like tto know exactly why, since usb seems better then nic+modem (less money...) Thanks a lot. - diego = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A response to Nadav's message
Stallman gave the example of Linux distributions that include non-free software (such as Netscape and Oracle to use his examples) and call them value-added software, and objects! To him, these are freedom-dereased software, not value-added software. I call them freedom-subtracted packages, because if you are running a free operating system and living in freedom, they offer you an opportunity to part with your freedom. In fact, I believe that one of the things about the Open Source movement that scares (or repels) Stallman the most is the fact that is indeed, to some degree, a synthesis between the philosophy of free software, and the philosophies behind proprietary software. It both repels and worries me, and Nadav is right about the reason. The open source movement cites the same basic values that proprietary software developers cite: making software better (in a narrow practical sense). They say nothing about the value of freedom itself, or of living an upright life. If we cannot deliver good free software to do a certain job, perhaps because a necessary idea is patented, or because the DMCA and similar laws prohibit it, how will a user react? If he has believed the open source movement's claim that our methods make better software, he will respond, You failed to deliver on your claim. You are wrong. But if he has learned the value of freedom from the free software movement, he will say, How dare they do this to us! If organizations decide that open source is technically advantageous, they may still decide that the advantage of using a popular proprietary package is greater. But when they come to see non-free software as a social problem that subjugates them and hurts the whole society where it is used, they may make a point of helping society to move away from it. [1] Stallman keeps referring to GNU as we, but he never seems to mention anyone else who has written that software along with him. This was particularly strange when he referred to the guy who wrote Hurd, and Since I was talking mainly about the problems that arose in Hurd development, I felt it was more polite not to name names. In any case, I take responsibility for the choice of overall architecture and the choice of Mach as base, which are surely part of the cause of the long delay. The Hurd was started by Michael Bushnell (now Thomas Bushnell). Miles Bader and Roland McGrath also worked on it substantially. Today Marcus Brinkmann is a major contributor. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
I have Orckit, and I'm very happy with it thus far. The problem is that Bezeq is making noises as though they are replacing their entire Merkaziya, and you have to switch to the Samsung modem. They are, but they will stay fully compatible backward (all the modems that Rotal gives are using PPPoA only, some of them [samsung PCI/ITEX can be connected as ANSI or PPPoE).. I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem (external) Such as? please be specific, maybe we can solve some of them. The problems are not related to Linux. I have heard few sources at the upstairs level of Bezeq who are trully unsatisfied with this modems. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
www.cygwin.com check the xfree section Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote: Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free. Hari Grinberg System Eng' - Projects Platform Engineering Project Delivery - Jerusalem Phone: + 972 (0)2 5894748 Mobile: +972 (0) 55 664748 Fax: +972 (0) 2 5894725 __ Information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original message. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
On Sunday 19 January 2003 11:54, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: cygwin... The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program. But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications, and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything else. I hope that Codeweavers will release soon their modifications to Cygwin X - they did an amazing job there. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adsl usb modems
I would like to know the status of adsl usb modems, (which ever models actcom gives out this days). How mauch are those modems supported, and how much are good or not. Some of them are supported (I don't know which modems Actcom gives - I'm talking about the modems which rotal [my employer] gives). Those modems are cheap Winmodems, and by writing cheap I mean REALLY cheap stuff, so if you have even slight of a random noise on the line - they'll disconnect from the Merkezet/Dislam/redback, whatever... As for support - I posted here some instructions how to use them on linux (the ALE070, not the ALE130) - check it at http://www.penguin.org.il/~hetz Those modems are working really bad (if at all) with OHCI based USB chipset - if you have: ALI, AMD, VIA, SIS, NEC, or Intel 82371 chipset (you can check in linux by running: /sbin/lspci | grep USB ) then chances are that the modem will have tons of disconnections. From what I hear it's not: I would like tto know exactly why, since usb seems better then nic+modem (less money...) Less money, more troubles - I've been there. A simple NIC costs 40-70 NIS, depends where you buy it. An Alcatel modem (bezeq stopped importing it) costs at ebay about $20-50, and you can take my word for it - it worths every shekel/dollar! Also, don't forget that those modems use your CPU for all the work needed to be done on a dedicated modem like Alcatel, Orkit or Samsung [external] - so if you have a slow processor, it will only be slower.. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote: Thanks for help I try to install cygwin on a Win2K system I don't know it is looking more as a CRT program not a X based or I did something Wrong. putty is probably the best free alternative (for telnet, rsh and ssh. Needless to say that the latter is preffered) Search google for 'putty' -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Samba server share won't do Hebrew
I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the instructions in the Samba manual in Iglu.org.il. I added client code page = 862 character set = ISO8859-8 to my smb.conf, I had to use make_smbcodepage to create codepage.862 from CP862.TXT in Samba's sources (for some reason I didn't have that codepage in /etc/codepages) and also to use make_unicodemap to create unicode_map.ISO9959-8 from CPISO8859-8.TXT in Samba's sources. Samba seems to load the codepages (if I move any of the relevant codepage files from /etc/codepages smbstatus says Samba failed to load the client codepage), but when I try to copy a file with a Hebrew filename I get weired results -- some letters become N, some become ., if I create a new file named New Text Document and rename it to a Hebrew filename with X letters, it gets renamed to the first X letters in New Text Document (i.e -- ??? becomes New). My client is Windows 2K Pro. What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them from?), my Win2K configuration? Thanks. Alon Weinstein = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux at schools
http://www.ofset.org/index.html is a project to get free software into school, comments on the chance of it to help israel schools would be apprisiated, a lot of programs there are usuall ones like apache and a2ps but some others are educational related. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
Grinberg, Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free. Hari, it is not 100% clear what you are trying to achieve. My assumption is that you are trying to access a Linux box from Win2k, and display X apps running on Linux on your Win2k monitor. This is how Exceed is normally used. As others mentioned, start with installing cygwin (this has many other benefits besides your immediate need). Make sure you install the XFree86 server that comes with it, and an ssh client (OpenSSH, I think, is included in cygwin). If in doubt, try install everything or equivalent option. Once you have everything running, and the Linux box runs sshd and the firewall (if any) allows access to it, start the cygwin shell and try ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f xterm or whatever your fancy is. This should display an xterm on your monitor. Disclaimer: I have never tried XFree86 on Windows myself, YMMV. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
Disclaimer: I have never tried XFree86 on Windows myself, YMMV. Works great. The only thing missing is non-root environment, which will be solved soon. This e-mail message has been sent by Elbit Systems Ltd. and is for the use of the intended recipients only. The message may contain privileged or confidential information . If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited, and you are requested to delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify the sender immediately. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 02:45:42PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the instructions in the Samba manual in Iglu.org.il. I added client code page = 862 character set = ISO8859-8 to my smb.conf, I had to use make_smbcodepage to create codepage.862 from CP862.TXT in Samba's sources (for some reason I didn't have that codepage in /etc/codepages) and also to use make_unicodemap to create unicode_map.ISO9959-8 from CPISO8859-8.TXT in Samba's sources. Samba seems to load the codepages (if I move any of the relevant codepage files from /etc/codepages smbstatus says Samba failed to load the client codepage), but when I try to copy a file with a Hebrew filename I get weired results -- some letters become N, some become ., if I create a new file named New Text Document and rename it to a Hebrew filename with X letters, it gets renamed to the first X letters in New Text Document (i.e -- ??? becomes New). My client is Windows 2K Pro. What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them from?), my Win2K configuration? I think you also need to add to smb.conf this: valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254 Didi Thanks. Alon Weinstein = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the instructions in the Samba manual in Iglu.org.il. What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them from?), my Win2K configuration? I think you also need to add to smb.conf this: valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254 Didi Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the valid chars config. -- it was used before internationalization was added to Samba 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change. Any other ideas anyone? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
streaming server
Hi All I want to install sreaming server. My default choise was Microsoft Media Server as to my knowledge non of the other can support the Microsoft client. Does any one know of such streaming server that windows media player support ? -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://sites.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
Muli (and others), Just for the record, examples of problems with ADSL modems such as the Samsung and others can be easily found in Tapuz's networking and broadband forum. As for myself, I wouldn't trade my Alcatel for anything right now.. I'm actually going to call 199 and buy it from them (costs 240 nis as you know). Not only that would make it MINE, I would also stop paying for leasing it (20 nis per month, for.. well... ever!). Eli 19/01/03 10:28:39, Muli Ben-Yehuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:06:30AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: If you have Alcatel, then stick with it. Don't replace it (yet). I have Orckit, and I'm very happy with it thus far. The problem is that Bezeq is making noises as though they are replacing their entire Merkaziya, and you have to switch to the Samsung modem. I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem (external) Such as? please be specific, maybe we can solve some of them. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.. - Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: streaming server
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:49:00 +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote Hi All I want to install sreaming server. My default choise was Microsoft Media Server as to my knowledge non of the other can support the Microsoft client. Does any one know of such streaming server that windows media player support ? Real Networks streaming server is a very good solution (specially when it comes to scalability), but it costs ;) Another option that you might want to consider is FFMPEG: * It's open Source (LGPL) * It's being developed constantly * It's trully multi platform * It supports LOTS of codecs Feel free to check it out: http://ffmpeg.sf.net Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:34:53PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the instructions in the Samba manual in Iglu.org.il. What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them from?), my Win2K configuration? I think you also need to add to smb.conf this: valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254 Didi Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the valid chars config. -- it was used before internationalization was added to Samba 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change. Did it ever work for you, and stopped working? We had sometimes specific clients that had problems with hebrew filenames, client-side problems. They simply stopped working. It was always a client configuration problem - not on samba. You can try a Localized Hebrew Win98, and after it works move to 2000/XP (which are more complex). The only (relevant) option we use is 'valid chars'. I also wrote a patch that causes samba to save the names in ISO8859-8 (instead of CP862), but this is only relevant for reading the files from the server (or via NFS) - it never made a change on the client side (assuming you do not move between patched and unpatched sambas). You can get it from http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi. BTW, we still use samba 2.2.2, but I think the changes since then aren't relevant. Any other ideas anyone? Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
On Sunday 19 January 2003 17:49, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:34:53PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the instructions in the Samba manual in Iglu.org.il. What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them from?), my Win2K configuration? I think you also need to add to smb.conf this: valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254 Didi Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the valid chars config. -- it was used before internationalization was added to Samba 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change. Did it ever work for you, and stopped working? We had sometimes specific clients that had problems with Hebrew filenames, client-side problems. They simply stopped working. It was always a client configuration problem - not on samba. You can try a Localized Hebrew Win98, and after it works move to 2000/XP (which are more complex). The only (relevant) option we use is 'valid chars'. I also wrote a patch that causes samba to save the names in ISO8859-8 (instead of CP862), but this is only relevant for reading the files from the server (or via NFS) - it never made a change on the client side (assuming you do not move between patched and unpatched sambas). You can get it from http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi. BTW, we still use samba 2.2.2, but I think the changes since then aren't relevant. Any other ideas anyone? Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi.. I'm using Samba as a PDC at my work place with win98 workstations ( one day it will be upgraded to Linux.. :-) and here is my smb.conf ( the main issues ): [global] workgroup = blabbla netbios name = BLABLABLA server string = Samba Server %v encrypt passwords = Yes log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 50 time server = Yes socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 logon script = %U.bat domain logons = Yes os level = 34 preferred master = True domain master = True dns proxy = No printer name = hp940 [finnancit] comment = Finnacit path = /mnt/s_data/blabla/finnancit valid users = @accounting force user = accounting force group = accounting read only = No inherit permissions = Yes as you can see I'm running a script to map the users net-drives at login time. I'm forcing all shares to be forced written as a specific user and group. I use it for security resones since I'm handling many user groups with diff. permissions ( I couldn't come up with better idea so if you got some other idea don't be shy.. ) all win9x stations can read/write Hebrew file names ... I cant see Hebrew file names from the server when I'm running in terminal of konqueror but it never troubled me as long as I can run backups and restores from tape and everything works fine.. ( could use a tip to see those file names in Hebrew on my server side.. ) I'm running Samba on my local net at home with win2k as a client and it works the same ( file names R/W in Hebrew ) though I'm not running that server as a PDC.. hope it will take you some where.. -- Yehuda Drori http://whatsup.org.il your Linux spot on the web in HEBREW = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot stat iglu.org.il with apt-get update
On Saturday 18 January 2003 15:50, you wrote: Barry Rabinowitz wrote: On Saturday 18 January 2003 05:56, you wrote: snip I am using Woody . Barry. well what the directory name you are trying to get? since 404 means page not found maybe your directory name is wrong in my source.list it`s deb ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian stable main contrib I am using Debian's non-US mirror for Israel as shown in their list of official mirrors : ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US/ http://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US/ Maybe it is not correct or maybe I have something wrong here. What error message you get? Err http://ftp.iglu.org.il ./ Packages 404 Not Found Ign http://ftp.iglu.org.il And of course, at the end the listing that it cannot stat http... To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot stat iglu.org.il with apt-get update
On Saturday 18 January 2003 17:00, you wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 05:49:32PM -0200, Barry Rabinowitz wrote: I am using Debian's non-US mirror for Israel as shown in their list of official mirrors : ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US/ http://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US/ Please try again after you wrote the line deb http://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list. Do note that that line might be broken into 2 lines because of MUA matters. However it should appear as one line in the sources.list file. Thanks, Adding the woody/non-US etc worked. I just copied the link blindly :-)) from the mirror list. Barry. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A response to Nadav's message
Quoth Richard Stallman: In fact, I believe that one of the things about the Open Source movement that scares (or repels) Stallman the most is the fact that is indeed, to some degree, a synthesis between the philosophy of free software, and the philosophies behind proprietary software. It both repels and worries me, and Nadav is right about the reason. The open source movement cites the same basic values that proprietary software developers cite: making software better (in a narrow practical sense). They say nothing about the value of freedom itself, or of living an upright life. The problem (with both RMS's and Nadav's) statements of the conundrum is that they (the statements) are rife with ethical judgments. These are so closely tied to the personal mores of the parties, that they (RMS and Nadav) might argue a blue streak speaking on different tracks. [snip] respond, You failed to deliver on your claim. You are wrong. But if he has learned the value of freedom from the free software movement, he will say, How dare they do this to us! This, in my opinion, is Richard's primary fallacy. I must add, of course, that the fallacy is NOT Richard's fault. RMS is idealistic and thinks (and hopes) that homo is indeed sapiens. Of course, he is right to a degree, but only to a degree. I dispute that the vast majority of people care or think about their freedom. Oh - they DO think about their freedom and d care about it, but not really. Not because they do NOT care about freedom, but because freedom, to be had, MUST be exercised. And this activity, the exercise of freedom, is something the common homo sapiens is, mostly, not interested in - it is inconvenient. If organizations decide that open source is technically advantageous, they may still decide that the advantage of using a popular proprietary package is greater. But when they come to see non-free software as a social problem that subjugates them and hurts the whole society where it is used, they may make a point of helping society to move away from it. Again, this is an ETHICAL choice. Ethics are often if not almost always subjugated to the path of least resistance - moral, financial, ass-covering, what have you. I am much in agreement with RMS over many issues, but I am completely in disagreement with him over the issue of the human animal that is willing to exercise its will to act in an ethical manner. Marc. -- ---OFCNL This is MY list. This list belongs to ME! I will flame anyone I want. Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
On Sunday 19 January 2003 09:19, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Bezeq just contacted me, saying that they want to replace the ADSL modem I am currently using with a Samsung ADSL modem (I don't have the specific model yet). The Samusung is NIC based as well. Anyone using this ADSL modem with Linux? does it work out of the box, not work at all, or require a kernel module or some other travesty? I should be getting it later today or tomorrow and do some investigating. I'll keep the list posted. I've seen a Samsung modem. The problem with it is that it had a firmware that is specially crafted for Israel (it says so in the manual and the firmware itself has -IL tag in the version). The web setup is disabled per Bezeq's request, and the modem doesn't have a CLI setup. If we are talking about the same modems, AVOID AT ALL COSTS. General line: Alcatels. Only Alcatels. -- I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yedidyah Bar-David Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:49 PM To: Alon Weinstein Cc: 'Yedidyah Bar-David'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:34:53PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the instructions in the Samba manual in Iglu.org.il. What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them from?), my Win2K configuration? I think you also need to add to smb.conf this: valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254 Didi Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the valid chars config. -- it was used before internationalization was added to Samba 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change. Did it ever work for you, and stopped working? We had sometimes specific clients that had problems with hebrew filenames, client-side problems. They simply stopped working. It was always a client configuration problem - not on samba. You can try a Localized Hebrew Win98, and after it works move to 2000/XP (which are more complex). never worked. I've delayed adding other computers to the domain until this issue is resolved - this is a new installation. I don't have an option for using Win98 - I must be able to connect Win2K boxes (not Hebrew localized). Are there any special tweaks you know of in Win2K that might change something? The only (relevant) option we use is 'valid chars'. I also wrote a patch that causes samba to save the names in ISO8859-8 (instead of CP862), but this is only relevant for reading the files from the server (or via NFS) - it never made a change on the client side (assuming you do not move between patched and unpatched sambas). You can get it from http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi. BTW, we still use samba 2.2.2, but I think the changes since then aren't relevant. Did I understand correctly? -- this patch won't help me put files from Win clients to the server, only to fetch them from the server? I'm using 2.2.7. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
Hi.. I'm using Samba as a PDC at my work place with win98 workstations ( one day it will be upgraded to Linux.. :-) and here is my smb.conf ( the main issues ): [global] workgroup = blabbla netbios name = BLABLABLA server string = Samba Server %v encrypt passwords = Yes log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 50 time server = Yes socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 logon script = %U.bat domain logons = Yes os level = 34 preferred master = True domain master = True dns proxy = No printer name = hp940 [finnancit] comment = Finnacit path = /mnt/s_data/blabla/finnancit valid users = @accounting force user = accounting force group = accounting read only = No inherit permissions = Yes as you can see I'm running a script to map the users net-drives at login time. I'm forcing all shares to be forced written as a specific user and group. I use it for security resones since I'm handling many user groups with diff. permissions ( I couldn't come up with better idea so if you got some other idea don't be shy.. ) all win9x stations can read/write Hebrew file names ... I cant see Hebrew file names from the server when I'm running in terminal of konqueror but it never troubled me as long as I can run backups and restores from tape and everything works fine.. ( could use a tip to see those file names in Hebrew on my server side.. ) I'm running Samba on my local net at home with win2k as a client and it works the same ( file names R/W in Hebrew ) though I'm not running that server as a PDC.. hope it will take you some where.. Certainly did -- to the valley of the desperation :-) you didn't even have to set codepage/character set in your smb.conf and it works :-) but it figures, because Win98 doesn't use Unicode, and W2K does, and Samba doesn't, so I guess this is the source to all the troubles. BUT -- I understand this can be made to work some how. Anyway I hope so :-) Alon. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Samsung ADSL modems
A small correction... The modem you are talking about is Samsung E300IL, which as you said a crippled version specificly made for bezeq. The thing is that I am pretty sure that inside its more or less the same modem as E300 , exept for one thing. Its web consule has a non standard password, which isnt documented anywhere.. and the only difference between the manual for E300 and E300IL is the lack of web configuration in E300IL. Which without it leaves the modem more or less a black( or a blue ;) ) box which cant be configured. I played with this modem and once I installed pppoe it worked pretty nice, Though still I will never trade my alcatel for this ... never. They will have to pass me first. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Xavier Gentoo Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Samsung ADSL modems On Sunday 19 January 2003 09:19, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Bezeq just contacted me, saying that they want to replace the ADSL modem I am currently using with a Samsung ADSL modem (I don't have the specific model yet). The Samusung is NIC based as well. Anyone using this ADSL modem with Linux? does it work out of the box, not work at all, or require a kernel module or some other travesty? I should be getting it later today or tomorrow and do some investigating. I'll keep the list posted. I've seen a Samsung modem. The problem with it is that it had a firmware that is specially crafted for Israel (it says so in the manual and the firmware itself has -IL tag in the version). The web setup is disabled per Bezeq's rsequest, and the modem doesn't have a CLI setup. If we are talking about the same modems, AVOID AT ALL COSTS. General line: Alcatels. Only Alcatels. -- I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A response to Nadav's message
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote about Re: A response to Nadav's message: The problem (with both RMS's and Nadav's) statements of the conundrum is that they (the statements) are rife with ethical judgments. These ... respond, You failed to deliver on your claim. You are wrong. But if he has learned the value of freedom from the free software movement, he will say, How dare they do this to us! This, in my opinion, is Richard's primary fallacy. I must add, of course, that the fallacy is NOT Richard's fault. RMS is idealistic and thinks (and hopes) that homo is indeed sapiens. Of course, he is right to a degree, but only to a degree. I dispute that the vast majority of people care or think about their freedom. Oh - they DO think about their freedom and d care about it, but not really. Not because they do NOT I think you misunderstood Richard Stallman's point. He's not saying that everybody cares about their freedom, but rather (if I understood him correctly) that everybody *should* care about their freedom. In fact, he's lamenting the fact that too few people think about their own freedom. He is trying to explain to them why their freedom is important, even though their government or corporate America is trying to tell them that they are already free. Moreover, you are missing Stallman's second point, with which I fully agree: Support for free software (or Linux or Open Source, or whatever you prefer to call it) cannot be *only* about the software's quality - we haven't got to that stage yet. You said most people don't care about freedom, but similarly most people also don't care about the quality of the software. If people cared about the quality of their software, do you think Windows would have been such a success? :) But even more sadly, in some cases free software is perceived to have lower quality than proprietary software. Free word processors cannot read MS-Word files properly (because Microsoft hides the format's specifications, and to add insult to injury it frequently changes the format). Free operating systems cannot legally play DVDs or MP3s in the US (because of DMCA and patent issues respectively). Web-site owners consider free browsers (such as Mozilla, Konqueror, Lynx, etc.) as inferior and tell us that their sites don't work for us because of our browsers' bugs. Many times, when I talk to someone about using GNU/Linux, they immediately respond saying that they already have Microsoft Windows, Office, Adobe Photoshop, etc., and all for free (or as I call it, free as in can-be-stolen). No argument about GNU/Linux's practical quality can convince them - they are already satisfied (more-or-less) with Windows' quality, and I would be lying if I told them that they can do on GNU/Linux everything they were used to doing in Windows, in the way they are used to doing it. In fact, before a relatively-lengthy learning process, they will preceive GNU/Linux as having a lower quality than Windows :( Maybe this will change some day, but that day still hasn't come. care about freedom, but because freedom, to be had, MUST be exercised. And this activity, the exercise of freedom, is something the common homo sapiens is, mostly, not interested in - it is inconvenient. You know, in the 1960s blacks in some southern US states (Alabama, Arkansas, etc.) had to live under various segregation laws. They had to sit at the backs of busses, sit in special places at diners (or forbidden entrance altogether), and had go to special schools. They certainly felt this lack of freedom. Do you really believe all that was important to them was to exercise this freedom? Did they really prefer sitting in the front of the bus? Would a black feel comfortable in an all-white school? Did they really want to eat at diners owned by racists and Klan members? Probably not. But they wanted to have that choice, the same choice that the whites had. They wanted it really bad. Let freedom ring from every hill and mole hill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring. Does that ring a bell? (pun intended :)). I think you underestimate humans' need for freedom. Not everybody cares about it, some succumb to false freedoms (like the freedom to become addicted to consumerism, or the freedom to elect Saddam at a 99.99% majority), but freedom is definitely an important theme in human history. And I don't have to say that freedom is important in an Israeli list - after all we have a major holiday (Pesach) which is all about our becoming free from being enslaved at ancient times. We have another major holiday (Hanukka) celebrating our freedom to practice our religion and the heroic deeds of the men and women who stood up to those (Greeks, in this case) who tried to take it away from us. The most holy of our holidays, Yom Kippur, celebrates (if one can say that) our freedom to chose our own actions - a freedom that we are told to excercise thoughtfully and carefully, because we are
Re: A response to Nadav's message
Quoth Nadav Har'El: I think you misunderstood Richard Stallman's point. He's not saying that everybody cares about their freedom, but rather (if I understood him correctly) that everybody *should* care about their freedom. In fact, he's lamenting the fact that too few people think about their own freedom. No, I understood this point. I just fear that this is exatly the laziness I spoke about - thinking (though in a manner that is not fleeting) about one's freedom is exercising it (albeit to a very limited degree). Moreover, you are missing Stallman's second point, with which I fully agree: Support for free software (or Linux or Open Source, or whatever you prefer to call it) cannot be *only* about the software's quality - we haven't got to that stage yet. I am not missing it, I agree with it and therefore have no bones to pick here. But this step - the right thing, the good thing being the norm and, therefore, trivially expected - is the required step in discussing software quality in a manner detached from other concerns. Until it is achieved, and I argue that it cannot be achieved before a significant advancement of human ethics, the only argument that is easily accepted is that of quality/price. I am not happy with it, but I can either play the argument game or play with myself (which, I admit, is what I do, mostly). You said most people don't care about freedom, but similarly most people also don't care about the quality of the software. If people cared about the quality of their software, do you think Windows would have been such a success? :) Yes. This for this simple reason: What is better: Hige sceal the heardra or Mod sceal the mare You (and most of this list) lack the knowledge to answer the question (which, by the way is: What is better: Spirit shall be the harder or Courage the greater) This is where most people are about computers. They can judge the (perish the phrase I am typing) surface features but not the (I am going to wash my hands with sulphuric acid later) the deep structure - cotext versus context. Most people judge computers on the Ooh, ah! scale. Knowledge is not a goal, knowledge is not an advantage. Knowledge is a burden and a pain and people do not want it. Yes, I am Augustinian. But even more sadly, in some cases free software is perceived to have lower quality than proprietary software. Free word processors cannot read MS-Word files properly (because Microsoft hides the format's specifications, and to add insult to injury it frequently changes the format). Free operating systems cannot legally play DVDs or MP3s in the US (because of DMCA and patent issues respectively). Web-site owners consider free browsers (such as Mozilla, Konqueror, Lynx, etc.) as inferior and tell us that their sites don't work for us because of our browsers' bugs. Are they or are they not bugs? ;-). The answer is yes in both cases. In your, my and RMS's books, they are not bugs. But in the hoi poloi's mind, they are bugs, cuz we cunt cee da nise www.peep.co.il sait wid dis stoopd leeenux. And, to them, their book is all that matters until and unless (and, alas, I believe not in change) educating strikes them by accident. You know, in the 1960s blacks in some southern US states (Alabama, Arkansas, etc.) had to live under various segregation laws. They had to sit at the backs of busses, sit in special places at diners (or forbidden entrance altogether), and had go to special schools. They certainly felt this lack of freedom. Do you really believe all that was important to them was to exercise this freedom? Did they really prefer sitting in the front of the bus? Would a black feel comfortable in an all-white school? Did they really want to eat at diners owned by racists and Klan members? Probably not. But they wanted to have that choice, the same choice that the whites had. They wanted it really bad. Let freedom ring from every hill and mole hill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring. Does that ring a bell? (pun intended :)). First, I submit that freedom and equality are not the same. I submit that Martin Luther King's idea of equality, Malcolm X's idea of equality and John Doe's idea of equality were not the same. I also submit that the difference between a black and a white in 'ole south was so pronounced that equality had tangible advantages. Freedom, in my opinion, was and is (wrongly) equated with equality. I think you underestimate humans' need for freedom. There is a difference. Need for what kind of freedom? Actual freedom? Perceived freedom? Perceived is what is required and needed by people. Actual is what is important. RMS is bucking for actual. I submit that his ideals are foreign to the general run of mankind (myself, i hasten to admit, included in great many cases) - freedom is something that one has to weigh and
Re: A response to Nadav's message
can we please keep religion topics off the list? it just get into annoying boring non linux related arguments which fits more into alt.religion.emacs.. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote about Re: A response to Nadav's message: The most holy of our holidays, Yom Kippur, celebrates (if one can say that) our freedom to chose our own actions - a freedom that we are told to excercise thoughtfully and carefully, because we are accountable before God for our actions, especially towards other people. I'd say that it's not a celebration, but an apology about exercising freedom of choice. A common misconception is that freedom requires absolute freedom, with no concequences to your choices. This is wrong. Freedom always comes with responsibility, to use your freedom properly. The fact that you have freedom of speech does not mean that shouting at people on the street (or spamming on the net) is nice. The fact that you are free to program does not mean that writing computer viruses is good. The fact that we have a free market does not make abusing your employees a commendable action. The fact that your are free to use your youth to tan on the beach instead of studying, doesn't make that a wise move. The fact that smoking is perfectly legal doesn't make you live longer if you chose to pick up that habit. Existentialists sometimes relate freedom with nausea. Too much freedom isn't always easy for people to accept. I guess they Sartre sees eye-to-eye with Marc :) -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 19 2003, 17 Shevat 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Tact: The ability to describe others as http://nadav.harel.org.il |they see themselves. - Abraham Lincoln = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:18:23 +0200, Alon Weinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certainly did -- to the valley of the desperation :-) you didn't even have to set codepage/character set in your smb.conf and it works :-) but it figures, because Win98 doesn't use Unicode, and W2K does, and Samba doesn't, so I guess this is the source to all the troubles. BUT -- I understand this can be made to work some how. Anyway I hope so :-) I think you have missed the point. Few people have told you from their successful experience that you have to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to be able to have file names in Hebrew. I can witness to it from my experience (with both W98 and W2000/NT) on samba 2.2.3a (came with RedHat 7.3). Search the problem in your CLIENT ! BTW. I can see the Hebrew names on Linux too (it is in the 80-9D range - DOS encoding - both my in-house emulator and my Emacs show these characters as Hebrew). Ehud. - -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Better Safe Than Sorry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: use http://www.keyserver.net/ to get my key (and others) iD8DBQE+KwwjLFvTvpjqOY0RAvqTAJ495BjBs9kLg9v+W4bqP4MaWO1iAgCfXWFI gpfmcRvXBomTiOVGIPwbTaQ= =pQY2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A response to Nadav's message
Quoth Nadav Har'El on Sun, Jan 19, 2003: And I don't have to say that freedom is important in an Israeli list - after all we have a major holiday (Pesach) which is all about our becoming free from being enslaved at ancient times. And therefore it's forbidden by law to sell bread in Jewish neighborhoods in Israel during passover. Anything else I should know about freedom? We have another major holiday (Hanukka) celebrating our freedom to practice our religion and the heroic deeds of the men and women who stood up to those (Greeks, in this case) who tried to take it away from us. This one is about victory more than about freedom, methinks. The most holy of our holidays, Yom Kippur, celebrates (if one can say that) our freedom to chose our own actions - a freedom that we are told to excercise thoughtfully and carefully, because we are accountable before God for our actions, especially towards other people. I'd say that it's not a celebration, but an apology about exercising freedom of choice. Vadik. -- Holy resolution for a holy war: the Torah stores most numbers as little-endian (e.g. seven and twenty and a hundred years)! -- Eli Cherniavsky = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A response to Nadav's message
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote about Re: A response to Nadav's message: First, I submit that freedom and equality are not the same. ... Freedom, in my opinion, was and is (wrongly) equated with equality. I know they are not the same. In some sense they are opposite, and in other senses, they are related. Who said ethics was an exact science? :) Go back to Rev. Martin Luther King's I have a dream speech to see if he was looking for freedom or for equality. Actually it was a bit of both. He mentions freedom two dozen times: King did not want blacks to be free because whites are - he wanted them to be free because humans should be free. But he does mention equality twice, one of them is using the famous quote from the American declaration of independence: We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal., and thus equality plays a role here too. As you know, I believe equality plays a role in free-software too... But I already brought up this subject too many times recently :) And most people I know view the DoA as a general indulgence purchase. Hey, I was talking about Martin Luther King, not Martin Luther :) [a lot of R-rated language removed] The DoA is the Israeli version of purchase of indulgences. And as for God, which God? Were I you, I'd not mention God - that Note that I gave the religious examples not because I actually practice those holidays (I am not religious, not that this has anything to do with this thread), but because these holidays are our (most members of this list) common heritage. Even as a non-believer I couldn't help but celebrate the Leil Seder 27 times during my life. I claimed that someone cannot read a text about freedom 27 times and still think that freedom is not an important issue. The Israelites in Egypt were not looking for equality - they did not want to stay in Egypt and enjoy the pot of meat together with the rest of the Egyptians. They wanted to be free to return to their homeland. (again, please don't argue whether the exodus story is true or not, or if god exists or not. It's irrelevant to the issue - which is that freedom is a major part of our heritage). One atones NOT before God. One atones before oneself and before the hurt, not before a mythical entity which, when the whim strikes it (supposedly) distributes swords in farcical aquatic ceremonies. I think Kant would have a major argument with you (as will, obviously, any modern religious person) :) But this is getting completely off-topic... -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 19 2003, 17 Shevat 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |The knowledge that you are an idiot, is http://nadav.harel.org.il |what distinguishes you from one. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A response to Nadav's message
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote about Re: A response to Nadav's message: The most holy of our holidays, Yom Kippur, celebrates (if one can say that) our freedom to chose our own actions - a freedom that we are told to excercise thoughtfully and carefully, because we are accountable before God for our actions, especially towards other people. I'd say that it's not a celebration, but an apology about exercising freedom of choice. A common misconception is that freedom requires absolute freedom, with no concequences to your choices. This is wrong. Freedom always comes with responsibility, to use your freedom properly. The fact that you have freedom of speech does not mean that shouting at people on the street (or spamming on the net) is nice. The fact that you are free to program does not mean that writing computer viruses is good. The fact that we have a free market does not make abusing your employees a commendable action. The fact that your are free to use your youth to tan on the beach instead of studying, doesn't make that a wise move. The fact that smoking is perfectly legal doesn't make you live longer if you chose to pick up that habit. Existentialists sometimes relate freedom with nausea. Too much freedom isn't always easy for people to accept. I guess they Sartre sees eye-to-eye with Marc :) -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 19 2003, 17 Shevat 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Tact: The ability to describe others as http://nadav.harel.org.il |they see themselves. - Abraham Lincoln = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 07:16:12PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yedidyah Bar-David Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:49 PM To: Alon Weinstein Cc: 'Yedidyah Bar-David'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:34:53PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the instructions in the Samba manual in Iglu.org.il. What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them from?), my Win2K configuration? I think you also need to add to smb.conf this: valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254 Didi Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the valid chars config. -- it was used before internationalization was added to Samba 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change. Did it ever work for you, and stopped working? We had sometimes specific clients that had problems with hebrew filenames, client-side problems. They simply stopped working. It was always a client configuration problem - not on samba. You can try a Localized Hebrew Win98, and after it works move to 2000/XP (which are more complex). never worked. I've delayed adding other computers to the domain until this issue is resolved - this is a new installation. I don't have an option for using Win98 - I must be able to connect Win2K boxes (not I do not suggest Win98 as a permanent solution, only as something which works with Hebrew out-of-the-box. Hebrew localized). Are there any special tweaks you know of in Win2K that might change something? Not that I know of, but I didn't configure them. Something else: When you create a file, say AlefBetGimel.txt, what do you get in the Samba side (do 'ls -l --show-control-chars | od -tx1')? Also, is saving hebrew named files to shares on other Windows machines (both NT and 9x) work? What do you get on the server (especially in 9x - samba behaves like 9x until 3.0 will be released with unicode)? Didi The only (relevant) option we use is 'valid chars'. I also wrote a patch that causes samba to save the names in ISO8859-8 (instead of CP862), but this is only relevant for reading the files from the server (or via NFS) - it never made a change on the client side (assuming you do not move between patched and unpatched sambas). You can get it from http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~didi. BTW, we still use samba 2.2.2, but I think the changes since then aren't relevant. Did I understand correctly? -- this patch won't help me put files from Win clients to the server, only to fetch them from the server? I'm using 2.2.7. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A response to Nadav's message
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who said ethics was an exact science? :) If memory serves, ethics was one of Aristotle's noble sciences, but then I believe it is not referred to appropriately in this discussion, since Aristotle's ethics was about acceptable interactions between *two* persons. An extension of ethics to larger groups, communities, and societies constitutes another noble science, called - cough - politics. Oh, yeah, we wanted to avoid *that*... ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 07:47:56PM +0200, Yakov Broido wrote: A small correction... The modem you are talking about is Samsung E300IL, which as you said a crippled version specificly made for bezeq. The thing is that I am pretty sure that inside its more or less the same modem as E300 , exept for one thing. Its web consule has a non standard password, which isn?t documented anywhere.. and the only difference between the manual for E300 and E300IL is the lack of web configuration in E300IL. Can you actually being asked for the password and that is where you get stacked because you can't supply it? Just wondering about the possibility to break the password. Xavier Gentoo also said that the Samsung lack some CLI setup. Is this another difference or is it likely to have this setup menu once the password get broken? Did you actually got the E300 manual, perhaps from the web? Which without it leaves the modem more or less a black( or a blue ;) ) box which cant be configured. I played with this modem and once I installed pppoe it worked pretty nice, Though still I will never trade my alcatel for this ... never. They will have to pass me first. If it is working nicely why wouldn't you give up the Alcatel one? -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:42:46PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: (all the modems that Rotal gives are using PPPoA only, some of them [samsung PCI/ITEX can be connected as ANSI or PPPoE). Does the PCI here denote an internal PCI ADSL modem? If so, and regardless the question of a Linux driver, what is its quality? No Linux driver I assume? -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
Does the PCI here denote an internal PCI ADSL modem? If so, and regardless the question of a Linux driver, what is its quality? No Linux driver I assume? Yeah, but totally different from the Ethernet version. the PCI ADSL modem is just a cheap-o Winmodem, nothing more, although it's doing a better job compared to Globespan PCI or Dynamode PCI (both of them are really really crap, and I would dare to advice to avoid them under ANY cost, as well the USB ADSL modems from Rotal - they're very good as a door step, and that how much it costs to the ISP's). I don't know about driver for Linux for the ADSL modem, simply because my boss didn't give me any sample to test and play with, but again - GO buy an Alcatel, even at eBay, which you can find for $20-$50 a piece. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Samsung ADSL modems
Well, To your question : I get to the password prompt when I connect to port 80 of the modem. I don't know about CLI, I haven't seen any option to reach one, though I cant remember reading about it in the manual of E300 either... so maybe it just doesn't exist. Anyway the manuals are available at Samsungs site -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shaul Karl Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:47 PM To: Yakov Broido Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Samsung ADSL modems On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 07:47:56PM +0200, Yakov Broido wrote: A small correction... The modem you are talking about is Samsung E300IL, which as you said a crippled version specificly made for bezeq. The thing is that I am pretty sure that inside its more or less the same modem as E300 , exept for one thing. Its web consule has a non standard password, which isn?t documented anywhere.. and the only difference between the manual for E300 and E300IL is the lack of web configuration in E300IL. Can you actually being asked for the password and that is where you get stacked because you can't supply it? Just wondering about the possibility to break the password. Xavier Gentoo also said that the Samsung lack some CLI setup. Is this another difference or is it likely to have this setup menu once the password get broken? Did you actually got the E300 manual, perhaps from the web? Which without it leaves the modem more or less a black( or a blue ;) ) box which cant be configured. I played with this modem and once I installed pppoe it worked pretty nice, Though still I will never trade my alcatel for this ... never. They will have to pass me first. If it is working nicely why wouldn't you give up the Alcatel one? -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
On Sunday 19 January 2003 19:18, Alon Weinstein wrote: Hi.. I'm using Samba as a PDC at my work place with win98 workstations ( one day it will be upgraded to Linux.. :-) and here is my smb.conf ( the main issues ): [global] workgroup = blabbla netbios name = BLABLABLA server string = Samba Server %v encrypt passwords = Yes log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 50 time server = Yes socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 logon script = %U.bat domain logons = Yes os level = 34 preferred master = True domain master = True dns proxy = No printer name = hp940 [finnancit] comment = Finnacit path = /mnt/s_data/blabla/finnancit valid users = @accounting force user = accounting force group = accounting read only = No inherit permissions = Yes as you can see I'm running a script to map the users net-drives at login time. I'm forcing all shares to be forced written as a specific user and group. I use it for security resones since I'm handling many user groups with diff. permissions ( I couldn't come up with better idea so if you got some other idea don't be shy.. ) all win9x stations can read/write Hebrew file names ... I cant see Hebrew file names from the server when I'm running in terminal of konqueror but it never troubled me as long as I can run backups and restores from tape and everything works fine.. ( could use a tip to see those file names in Hebrew on my server side.. ) I'm running Samba on my local net at home with win2k as a client and it works the same ( file names R/W in Hebrew ) though I'm not running that server as a PDC.. ^ it works for my WIN2K also using RH 7.3 on both machines and Samba 2.2.7 hope it will take you some where.. Certainly did -- to the valley of the desperation :-) you didn't even have to set codepage/character set in your smb.conf and it works :-) but it figures, because Win98 doesn't use Unicode, and W2K does, and Samba doesn't, so I guess this is the source to all the troubles. BUT -- I understand this can be made to work some how. Anyway I hope so :-) Alon. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Yehuda Drori http://whatsup.org.il your Linux spot on the web in HEBREW = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ADSL modems
no more war no more bloodshed :) http://www.fresh.co.il/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_countom=3433forum=Networking this is the thread on how to convert your EHT-E300IL to fully functional EHT-E300 from personal experience - it works On Monday 20 January 2003 00:23, Yakov Broido wrote: Well, To your question : I get to the password prompt when I connect to port 80 of the modem. I don't know about CLI, I haven't seen any option to reach one, though I cant remember reading about it in the manual of E300 either... so maybe it just doesn't exist. Anyway the manuals are available at Samsungs site -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shaul Karl Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:47 PM To: Yakov Broido Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Samsung ADSL modems On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 07:47:56PM +0200, Yakov Broido wrote: A small correction... The modem you are talking about is Samsung E300IL, which as you said a crippled version specificly made for bezeq. The thing is that I am pretty sure that inside its more or less the same modem as E300 , exept for one thing. Its web consule has a non standard password, which isn?t documented anywhere.. and the only difference between the manual for E300 and E300IL is the lack of web configuration in E300IL. Can you actually being asked for the password and that is where you get stacked because you can't supply it? Just wondering about the possibility to break the password. Xavier Gentoo also said that the Samsung lack some CLI setup. Is this another difference or is it likely to have this setup menu once the password get broken? Did you actually got the E300 manual, perhaps from the web? Which without it leaves the modem more or less a black( or a blue ;) ) box which cant be configured. I played with this modem and once I installed pppoe it worked pretty nice, Though still I will never trade my alcatel for this ... never. They will have to pass me first. If it is working nicely why wouldn't you give up the Alcatel one? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
