Re: Question about driver for Mantis
Gernot Pansy wrote: i think i was one of the first SP400 owner but i had to sold my card for a Nova HD2 because the driver was not reliable (some i2c errors, slow tunning, sometimes tunning failed). And now i need a dvb-s2 card with ci working. so i'm searching again for a new card. their seems to be only the tt-3200 out, which seems to work - no newer card. You could try the FloppyDTV S2. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
Quick fix, do a make menuconfig: navigate through the menus, disable au0828 support and try again. Regards, Manu -- I have to disable almost all other drivers to compile Mantis. During short test I didn't find any critical bugs. I tested it under Kaffeine development version, so no DVB-S2 testing, I can't use DiSqC, but it can be Kaffeine bug or weak signal from second satelite. No critical hangs at all, no kernel panic. In my opinion this driver can be included into main DVB tree. It would be great to see it in linux 2.6.31 (I tested Mantis under 2.6.30 rc7). Jarek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
hermann pitton wrote: Am Samstag, den 23.05.2009, 22:12 +0200 schrieb David Lister: Manu Abraham wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:42 PM, David Lister foc...@gmail.com wrote: Manu Abraham wrote: 2009/5/23 David Lister foc...@gmail.com: Not sure if you didn't get this email already, I had a slip-up while sending it. :) Anyway, there's also another supported card with a CI. A friend of mine has it, so I guess it works quite well with Linux. It's Mystique SaTiX-S2 (AFAIK, similar to KNC1+). Mystiques have rather quality finish and the CI module is ready for 3.5 drive installation. Some pictures from google: http://www.cesarex.com/images/Mystique-CI-1.jpg http://www.sat-servis.cz/data/eshop/fotky/produkty/velke/619.jpg Others might be able to tell you more details, I just know it works - friend has a Cryptoworks CAM in it. Take a look around, bye. The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+ which just uses the same STB0899 module, FYI. :-) Not exactly. People usually say it is a rebrand/clone of KNC1+, but it's not. :) There are couple of differences -- Mystique is a lighter version missing these features: 1) Signal passthrough via loop-out connector 2) Video input port for analogue capture I'm glad you reminded me of this misconception, the differences might be important for somebody. I was considering Mystique for myself, but chose CX24116 over STB0899, because this time, I wanted official support. I don't need analogue capture and CI anyway (I use softcam and for analog, much better Hauppauge PVR-500). I suggest Mystique instead of KNC1+ for purely practical reasons - it's more available, cheaper and nicer. :) No misconceptions: Oh, but there are. We were both talking about the sat version of KNC1+, not KNC1! You said and I quote: The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+, which is not true. That's why I originally said that it's *similar* to Mystique, which *is* true. It might be the same as plain KNC1 or dozens of other rebranded versions, but that wasn't the point. The misconception is that Mystique is KNC1+ clone -- it is not. Perhaps I could have mentioned basic TV Station DVB-S too, but I didn't expect I'll have to defend every word I say. Now that I think about it, I'm glad I didn't - your inability to comprehend the simplest of meanings shines like the sun. Your follow-up comment was completely useless, arbitrary trolling. If you could face the life like a man instead of a cry baby, you wouldn't have the need to patronise me (unsuccessfully:)) in an unrelated thread just because of our earlier argument. You should be ashamed of yourself. You're a DVB driver developer and you have a hard time arguing with somebody who has seen DVB-S for the first time in his life a month ago! So support for it just appeared like magic ? Were you arguing with one of your other personalities in your head that I missed something? I'm afraid you are a bit confused today, or you misinterpret the meaning of my words on purpose, or are just pissed off at me. :) Whatever. Because it might be your weak English, I'm not going to call you an idiot like you called me a few times today, even though this time it *would* be appropriate. It's the same thing as in the other thread all over again. It's impossible to have a normal intelligent conversation with you. I'm not going to support your trolling any more. As usual, I wish you good luck in your efforts. Looks like you need it. David, as said previously, you can't mark whole companies as bad and especially about TechnoTrend you should know much more. Hello, I presume this is about the other thread, right? I didn't mark the whole TT as a bad company, at least I didn't intend to do so. We were talking about a single product, or to be more precise, maturity of its Linux support. If I didn't like TT as a whole, I wouldn't have written the last email (in that thread)... :) The company info was just a summation of their press releases, which no doubt is relevant for this list. AFAIK, it hasn't been mentioned yet. We'll see how the situation develops, I'm just as curious as others. It could even be good news for us. This starts with reading the DVB headers to get at least an idea of it. In short, Manu is right and you are wrong. Or take over better maintenance of v4l-dvb 24/7 :) This is actually quite simple - the problem is that Manu here drags irrelevant stuff into arguments just so he can be be right (about these *irrelevant* facts of his choosing), every time he is proven wrong on the issue at hand. This way all discussions would be endless, snowballing new and new aspects without any relation to the original issue. Let's sum it up: A) I recommended Mystique: it's supported and has the features OP wanted. I said it was *similar* to the popular well known
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Jarosław Huba jarhu...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi. Is driver for Mantis chipset are currently developed somewhere? I'm owner of Azurewave AD SP400 CI (VP-1041) and I'm waiting for support for this card for quite long time. Even partly working driver in mainline kernel would be great (without remote, CI, S2 support, with some tuning bugs). This question is mainly for Manu Abraham who developed this driver some time ago. The latest development snapshot for the mantis based devices can be found here: http://jusst.de/hg/mantis-v4l Currently CI is unsupported, though very preliminary code support for it exists in it. S2 works, pretty much. Or do you have other results ? Regards, Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
2009/5/23 Jarosław Huba jarhu...@poczta.onet.pl: The latest development snapshot for the mantis based devices can be found here: http://jusst.de/hg/mantis-v4l Currently CI is unsupported, though very preliminary code support for it exists in it. S2 works, pretty much. Or do you have other results ? Regards, Manu I will test it soon. Do I need to compile my own pathed kernel? Or Is there some info on wiki about how to do that in easier way? I'm using Kubuntu Karmic with kernel 2.6.30. Just clone the tree on to your machine hg clone http://jusst.de/hg/mantis-v4l Clean stal remnants if any. make distclean Build the tree make Load the modules one by one, or have a script of your own to load it, or you can do a make install In case you are sending me debug output, please do load the mantis.ko and stb0899.ko modules with the verbose=5 module parameter, so that the debug messages are verbosed out. Otherwise you can forget about the module parameters. Regards, Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
hy, On Saturday 23 May 2009 08:41:48 Manu Abraham wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Jarosław Huba jarhu...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi. Is driver for Mantis chipset are currently developed somewhere? I'm owner of Azurewave AD SP400 CI (VP-1041) and I'm waiting for support for this card for quite long time. Even partly working driver in mainline kernel would be great (without remote, CI, S2 support, with some tuning bugs). This question is mainly for Manu Abraham who developed this driver some time ago. The latest development snapshot for the mantis based devices can be found here: http://jusst.de/hg/mantis-v4l Currently CI is unsupported, though very preliminary code support for it exists in it. S2 works, pretty much. Or do you have other results ? will CI be supported and are you willing to finish development and merge it to mainline anytime? i think i was one of the first SP400 owner but i had to sold my card for a Nova HD2 because the driver was not reliable (some i2c errors, slow tunning, sometimes tunning failed). And now i need a dvb-s2 card with ci working. so i'm searching again for a new card. their seems to be only the tt-3200 out, which seems to work - no newer card. regards, gernot Regards, Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
2009/5/23 Gernot Pansy ger...@pansy.at: hy, On Saturday 23 May 2009 08:41:48 Manu Abraham wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Jarosław Huba jarhu...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi. Is driver for Mantis chipset are currently developed somewhere? I'm owner of Azurewave AD SP400 CI (VP-1041) and I'm waiting for support for this card for quite long time. Even partly working driver in mainline kernel would be great (without remote, CI, S2 support, with some tuning bugs). This question is mainly for Manu Abraham who developed this driver some time ago. The latest development snapshot for the mantis based devices can be found here: http://jusst.de/hg/mantis-v4l Currently CI is unsupported, though very preliminary code support for it exists in it. S2 works, pretty much. Or do you have other results ? will CI be supported and are you willing to finish development and merge it to mainline anytime? The CI code is out there in it itself commented out, but is a bit unstable. I haven't spent too much time on it these last 2 months, due to lack of time i think i was one of the first SP400 owner but i had to sold my card for a Nova HD2 because the driver was not reliable (some i2c errors, slow tunning, sometimes tunning failed). And now i need a dvb-s2 card with ci working. so i'm searching again for a new card. their seems to be only the tt-3200 out, which seems to work - no newer card. The issue with the I2C errors have been fixed in the jusst.de/hg/mantis-v4l tree. It had been a bit hard to fix, but i am almost certain, that issue is gone for good. There were quite a lot of fixes to the stb0899 module, so maybe some of the issues what you looked at might've been fixed. Regards, Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
2009/5/23 David Lister foc...@gmail.com: Gernot Pansy wrote: will CI be supported and are you willing to finish development and merge it to mainline anytime? i think i was one of the first SP400 owner but i had to sold my card for a Nova HD2 because the driver was not reliable (some i2c errors, slow tunning, sometimes tunning failed). And now i need a dvb-s2 card with ci working. so i'm searching again for a new card. their seems to be only the tt-3200 out, which seems to work - no newer card. Not sure if you didn't get this email already, I had a slip-up while sending it. :) Anyway, there's also another supported card with a CI. A friend of mine has it, so I guess it works quite well with Linux. It's Mystique SaTiX-S2 (AFAIK, similar to KNC1+). Mystiques have rather quality finish and the CI module is ready for 3.5 drive installation. Some pictures from google: http://www.cesarex.com/images/Mystique-CI-1.jpg http://www.sat-servis.cz/data/eshop/fotky/produkty/velke/619.jpg Others might be able to tell you more details, I just know it works - friend has a Cryptoworks CAM in it. Take a look around, bye. The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+ which just uses the same STB0899 module, FYI. :-) Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
I will also look for vanilla kernel. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
2009/5/23 Jarosław Huba jarhu...@poczta.onet.pl Just clone the tree on to your machine hg clone http://jusst.de/hg/mantis-v4l Clean stal remnants if any. make distclean Build the tree make I got this error: ja...@jarek-desktop:~/mantis-v4l$ make make -C /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l make[1]: Wejście do katalogu `/home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l' No version yet, using 2.6.30-6-generic make[1]: Opuszczenie katalogu `/home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l' make[1]: Wejście do katalogu `/home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l' scripts/make_makefile.pl Updating/Creating .config Preparing to compile for kernel version 2.6.30 ***WARNING:*** You do not have the full kernel sources installed. This does not prevent you from building the v4l-dvb tree if you have the kernel headers, but the full kernel source may be required in order to use make menuconfig / xconfig / qconfig. If you are experiencing problems building the v4l-dvb tree, please try building against a vanilla kernel before reporting a bug. Vanilla kernels are available at http://kernel.org. On most distros, this will compile a newly downloaded kernel: cp /boot/config-`uname -r` your kernel dir/.config cd your kernel dir make all modules_install install Please see your distro's web site for instructions to build a new kernel. Created default (all yes) .config file ./scripts/make_myconfig.pl make[1]: Opuszczenie katalogu `/home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l' make[1]: Wejście do katalogu `/home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l' perl scripts/make_config_compat.pl /lib/modules/2.6.30-6-generic/build ./.myconfig ./config-compat.h creating symbolic links... ln -sf . oss Kernel build directory is /lib/modules/2.6.30-6-generic/build make -C /lib/modules/2.6.30-6-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.30-6-generic' CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/tuner-xc2028.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/tuner-simple.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/tuner-types.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/mt20xx.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/tda8290.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/tea5767.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/tea5761.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/tda9887.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/tda827x.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/au0828-core.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/au0828-i2c.o CC [M] /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/au0828-cards.o In file included from /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/dmxdev.h:33, from /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/au0828.h:29, from /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/au0828-cards.c:22: /home/jarek/mantis-v4l/v4l/compat.h:396: error: redefinition of 'usb_endpoint_type' include/linux/usb/ch9.h:376: note: previous definition of 'usb_endpoint_type' was here Quick fix, do a make menuconfig: navigate through the menus, disable au0828 support and try again. Regards, Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:42 PM, David Lister foc...@gmail.com wrote: Manu Abraham wrote: 2009/5/23 David Lister foc...@gmail.com: Not sure if you didn't get this email already, I had a slip-up while sending it. :) Anyway, there's also another supported card with a CI. A friend of mine has it, so I guess it works quite well with Linux. It's Mystique SaTiX-S2 (AFAIK, similar to KNC1+). Mystiques have rather quality finish and the CI module is ready for 3.5 drive installation. Some pictures from google: http://www.cesarex.com/images/Mystique-CI-1.jpg http://www.sat-servis.cz/data/eshop/fotky/produkty/velke/619.jpg Others might be able to tell you more details, I just know it works - friend has a Cryptoworks CAM in it. Take a look around, bye. The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+ which just uses the same STB0899 module, FYI. :-) Not exactly. People usually say it is a rebrand/clone of KNC1+, but it's not. :) There are couple of differences -- Mystique is a lighter version missing these features: 1) Signal passthrough via loop-out connector 2) Video input port for analogue capture I'm glad you reminded me of this misconception, the differences might be important for somebody. I was considering Mystique for myself, but chose CX24116 over STB0899, because this time, I wanted official support. I don't need analogue capture and CI anyway (I use softcam and for analog, much better Hauppauge PVR-500). I suggest Mystique instead of KNC1+ for purely practical reasons - it's more available, cheaper and nicer. :) No misconceptions: So support for it just appeared like magic ? There are 2 card variants: 1. KNC1 a) KNC1 DVB-S2+ (With analog support) b) KNC1 DVB-S2 (without analog support, the board has the place to solder the SAA7113, just that no chip and connectors) 2. Satelco Satelco DVB-S2 KNC1 (OEM clone of b) 3. Mystique CI uses polling model in all the above 3. Mystique (clone of KNC1 either A or B, even subsystem ID's itself aren't different, AFAICS) Now, there are other STB0899 based cards: 4. TT S2 3200 Very similar to the ST reference design. Uses a SAA7146 for the PCI bridge CI uses an interrupt driven model. 5. VP-1041 Very similar to the ST reference design. Uses a Mantis PCI bridge. CI is using a much different model. CI slot supports raw PCMCIA devices as well. currently CI support is very preliminary and not much functional. HTH -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
Manu Abraham wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:42 PM, David Lister foc...@gmail.com wrote: Manu Abraham wrote: 2009/5/23 David Lister foc...@gmail.com: Not sure if you didn't get this email already, I had a slip-up while sending it. :) Anyway, there's also another supported card with a CI. A friend of mine has it, so I guess it works quite well with Linux. It's Mystique SaTiX-S2 (AFAIK, similar to KNC1+). Mystiques have rather quality finish and the CI module is ready for 3.5 drive installation. Some pictures from google: http://www.cesarex.com/images/Mystique-CI-1.jpg http://www.sat-servis.cz/data/eshop/fotky/produkty/velke/619.jpg Others might be able to tell you more details, I just know it works - friend has a Cryptoworks CAM in it. Take a look around, bye. The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+ which just uses the same STB0899 module, FYI. :-) Not exactly. People usually say it is a rebrand/clone of KNC1+, but it's not. :) There are couple of differences -- Mystique is a lighter version missing these features: 1) Signal passthrough via loop-out connector 2) Video input port for analogue capture I'm glad you reminded me of this misconception, the differences might be important for somebody. I was considering Mystique for myself, but chose CX24116 over STB0899, because this time, I wanted official support. I don't need analogue capture and CI anyway (I use softcam and for analog, much better Hauppauge PVR-500). I suggest Mystique instead of KNC1+ for purely practical reasons - it's more available, cheaper and nicer. :) No misconceptions: Oh, but there are. We were both talking about the sat version of KNC1+, not KNC1! You said and I quote: The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+, which is not true. That's why I originally said that it's *similar* to Mystique, which *is* true. It might be the same as plain KNC1 or dozens of other rebranded versions, but that wasn't the point. The misconception is that Mystique is KNC1+ clone -- it is not. Perhaps I could have mentioned basic TV Station DVB-S too, but I didn't expect I'll have to defend every word I say. Now that I think about it, I'm glad I didn't - your inability to comprehend the simplest of meanings shines like the sun. Your follow-up comment was completely useless, arbitrary trolling. If you could face the life like a man instead of a cry baby, you wouldn't have the need to patronise me (unsuccessfully:)) in an unrelated thread just because of our earlier argument. You should be ashamed of yourself. You're a DVB driver developer and you have a hard time arguing with somebody who has seen DVB-S for the first time in his life a month ago! So support for it just appeared like magic ? Were you arguing with one of your other personalities in your head that I missed something? I'm afraid you are a bit confused today, or you misinterpret the meaning of my words on purpose, or are just pissed off at me. :) Whatever. Because it might be your weak English, I'm not going to call you an idiot like you called me a few times today, even though this time it *would* be appropriate. It's the same thing as in the other thread all over again. It's impossible to have a normal intelligent conversation with you. I'm not going to support your trolling any more. As usual, I wish you good luck in your efforts. Looks like you need it. -- Dave -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Question about driver for Mantis
Am Samstag, den 23.05.2009, 22:12 +0200 schrieb David Lister: Manu Abraham wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:42 PM, David Lister foc...@gmail.com wrote: Manu Abraham wrote: 2009/5/23 David Lister foc...@gmail.com: Not sure if you didn't get this email already, I had a slip-up while sending it. :) Anyway, there's also another supported card with a CI. A friend of mine has it, so I guess it works quite well with Linux. It's Mystique SaTiX-S2 (AFAIK, similar to KNC1+). Mystiques have rather quality finish and the CI module is ready for 3.5 drive installation. Some pictures from google: http://www.cesarex.com/images/Mystique-CI-1.jpg http://www.sat-servis.cz/data/eshop/fotky/produkty/velke/619.jpg Others might be able to tell you more details, I just know it works - friend has a Cryptoworks CAM in it. Take a look around, bye. The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+ which just uses the same STB0899 module, FYI. :-) Not exactly. People usually say it is a rebrand/clone of KNC1+, but it's not. :) There are couple of differences -- Mystique is a lighter version missing these features: 1) Signal passthrough via loop-out connector 2) Video input port for analogue capture I'm glad you reminded me of this misconception, the differences might be important for somebody. I was considering Mystique for myself, but chose CX24116 over STB0899, because this time, I wanted official support. I don't need analogue capture and CI anyway (I use softcam and for analog, much better Hauppauge PVR-500). I suggest Mystique instead of KNC1+ for purely practical reasons - it's more available, cheaper and nicer. :) No misconceptions: Oh, but there are. We were both talking about the sat version of KNC1+, not KNC1! You said and I quote: The Mystique is just a rebranded KNC1+, which is not true. That's why I originally said that it's *similar* to Mystique, which *is* true. It might be the same as plain KNC1 or dozens of other rebranded versions, but that wasn't the point. The misconception is that Mystique is KNC1+ clone -- it is not. Perhaps I could have mentioned basic TV Station DVB-S too, but I didn't expect I'll have to defend every word I say. Now that I think about it, I'm glad I didn't - your inability to comprehend the simplest of meanings shines like the sun. Your follow-up comment was completely useless, arbitrary trolling. If you could face the life like a man instead of a cry baby, you wouldn't have the need to patronise me (unsuccessfully:)) in an unrelated thread just because of our earlier argument. You should be ashamed of yourself. You're a DVB driver developer and you have a hard time arguing with somebody who has seen DVB-S for the first time in his life a month ago! So support for it just appeared like magic ? Were you arguing with one of your other personalities in your head that I missed something? I'm afraid you are a bit confused today, or you misinterpret the meaning of my words on purpose, or are just pissed off at me. :) Whatever. Because it might be your weak English, I'm not going to call you an idiot like you called me a few times today, even though this time it *would* be appropriate. It's the same thing as in the other thread all over again. It's impossible to have a normal intelligent conversation with you. I'm not going to support your trolling any more. As usual, I wish you good luck in your efforts. Looks like you need it. David, as said previously, you can't mark whole companies as bad and especially about TechnoTrend you should know much more. This starts with reading the DVB headers to get at least an idea of it. In short, Manu is right and you are wrong. Or take over better maintenance of v4l-dvb 24/7 :) Cheers, Hermann -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
