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Linux-Misc Digest #265, Volume #27Thu, 1 Mar 01 21:13:02 EST Contents: Re: Plextor can't mount CDs 121032A does not grab 8x ("Mike Paul") Re: Linux partitioning question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 1.2 Giga bytes source code - KDE 2.1, no impression. :( (Try more) Re: How do I include errno.h ? ("Cedric Chausson") Re: MS Windows XP vs Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: MS Windows XP vs Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Linux as terminal emulator. ("Jeff Susanj") Re: Linux as terminal emulator. (Frank da Cruz) Re: How to display texinfo help pages? (George White) compiling modules for a different kernel version? (Krzys Majewski) http loopback taking 14 minutes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) NETLINK stuff in kernel 2.4 ("René Scheibe") Re: Linux as terminal emulator. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: smbol table has incorrect version number ? (Michael Heiming) Re: Linux partitioning question ("Greg H.") Can I print to my LaserJet 3100 from Linux? (Robert MacGregor) Re: http loopback taking 14 minutes ("D. Stimits") Re: Linux as terminal emulator. (Joe Doupnik) Re: 1.2 Giga bytes source code - KDE 2.1, no impression. :( (Steve Lamb) Re: Web page publishing (Goodyear) Re: Web page publishing (Goodyear) Re: http loopback taking 14 minutes (Dean Thompson) Re: http loopback taking 14 minutes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Can I print to my LaserJet 3100 from Linux? (Dean Thompson) From: "Mike Paul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Plextor can't mount CDs 121032A does not grab 8x Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:50 +0500 I don't load the IDE driver as a module, it is compiled into the kernel. I'll try to insert the hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc command in the /sbin/init.d/boot.local file. Next time I compile the kernel, I'm gonna turn off "use DMA by default" and just enable it manually using hdparm in the init scripts for the drives where it's useful. It doesn't seem to do much anyway, since it shows "hda:DMA" and "hdb:DMA" in the bootup messages but then hdparm says they're not using DMA. (See my other posting in this group entitled "hdparm UltraDMA") -- Mike Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lehigh.edu/~mbp2/ -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 23:20:36 GMT In comp.os.linux.hardware Doug Lutterloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Why do I want to guess how much I will need for /home and /usr when : I can just lump them together in one big partition and use all my : space as efficiently as possible. I would reccomend at least splitting /home off - if you have to reinstall the system for some reason, it is nice to not have to lose your /home crap. -- Jeff Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] SEX DRUGS UNIX -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Try more) Subject: 1.2 Giga bytes source code - KDE 2.1, no impression. :( Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 23:22:48 GMT Hello, For 24 hours, I compiled the full KDE 2.1 source code at the bottom. Cause I'm using KDE 1.x right now, and wanted to see what's the KDE 2.1. To compile it, I downloaded Qt-2.2.4 source code and build it. - 74M openssl-0.9.6 - 18M KDE 2.1 source - 1.2G during compile, kssl part in kdelib directory had error so, I spent about two hours for patching the kssl source code. Fortunately, the guy who made this source did very simple mistakes: A little type mismatch from openssl library and undefined functions and constants. The building process is as follow. Linux box: Celeron 450 x2 Ram 64M Qt-2.2.4 Openssl-0.9.6 building kde 2.1 system kdesupport kdelib kdebase (and other optional stuffs) kdeadmin kdebindings kdenetwork kdepim kdeuitls I got exhasuted cause in 3:00 a.m today I just finished KDE 2.1 compilation and set the environment variable. Then, startx KDE 2.1 showed it's face to me. Well, no impression. It was looking nice compared with KDE 1.x.but, just another clone of GUI for Linux system. Konquror showed very nasty rendering image to me. Maybe I have small RAM memory? I would say "The KDE teams have done a good job!" but, won't say "The KDE teams are great!" What I felt was the duplication of Microsoft Windows 9x. The source code was huge! 1.2GB. It should be some million lines of code except the manual and documents. 24 hours hard work and just one hour of demo, then it had to rest for some days. Cause kde 1.x and unstable netscape gave me comfortable. I felt the end of 2D based GUI system personally. It seems not effective compared with text mode enviroment when the job becomes more and more complex. For example, can Visual C++'s ID compile
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Linux-Misc Digest #265, Volume #25 Fri, 28 Jul 00 18:13:02 EDT Contents: Re: alsa sucks Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why? (Elliott) Re: Mail from Linux to MS-Windows-Postoffice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish (sandrews) Re: Downloading latest version of Redhat in one file ("Breinie") Re: Powerful software (David Steuber) Re: Oh no! (David Steuber) Quicktime player? (Sorenson Video) (David Steuber) Re: "dd" copy fails to copy errors (John Gog) Re: downloading ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Slackware 7.1 asks for Disk A, B , C , D during install ? ("tvn") Re: who is responsible for the cache? (Larry Ebbitt) Re: Building a Linux Server from scratch: Experiences? (Bob Martin) Re: helix evolution (Aaron Ginn) softwareraid slow (peter pilsl) Re: finding my hacks (Larry Ebbitt) Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? (Robert Werry) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: alsa sucks Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:26:29 -0600 Well, how did you install alsa? By some pre-compiled binaries? Or you just compiled it by yourself? If so, did you enable oss emulation when configuring? And, did you run 'snddevices' to create necessary devices in /dev directory? The last two steps are important to get KDE to make sound. Good luck. In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], gLiTcH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any reason why once alsa is installed nothing can find the devices it creates, not even a copy command? I can use the aplay utility to play a wav file and it works fine. I can save and restore the volume settings. But if I try to play anything in KDE NOTHING works. Everythin complains of not being able to open the audio device and I have no clue why. It is making me mad. I did everything right and that is proven by the aplay util playing wav files just fine but KDE refuses to notice that I did anything with ALSA. What the hell am I supposed to do to get KDE to use the mixers ALSA installed? At this time kmpg only wants to use kmix and even with that it complains that it cant open it and to chmod a+rw /dev/mixer* but I did that and I got the same damn error. What the hell does it want? thanks for any information Brandon -- From: Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux Subject: Re: eth0 delaying initialization - why? Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:33:47 GMT When installing RH6.1, we installed the LILO (LInux LOader, or something). According to my RH manual, page 444, I should use the de4x5.o module. However, I will also try tulip, as you suggested. I also added another ethernet card just to see if that would help. It didnt. I added a 3Com EtherLink III (Module 3c507). Same old error. I also have specified the io address and the irq. Still same error (eth0: Delaying Initialization). I will try a boot disk. Any ideas on how to create the boot disk? any help would, of course, be appreaciated. thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; newsgroups, too. Hakan Erdogan wrote: Here is how my problem with the same card solved. I also get the sendmail pause thing (still). First, my question is do you use loadlin to load linux or lilo? I used to use loadlin and it did not work. My guess is that windows plays with the PCI bios or something so that the driver (tulip.o) could not detect the card correctly. There is a program tulip-diag.c that is supposed to diagnose the problem. When I ran it, it was saying that PCI bios does not show correct IRQ or something. You can also try it. When I used a boot disk, the driver worked correctly!!! Also, you need the latest version of tulip.c to detect LinkSys card and compile it. After loading the module, check the messages with dmesg and see if the driver is loading properly with the correct IRQ and everything. Good luck. Then I guess ifup should work. Elliott wrote: Ok. I tried the settings that you gave me, and I still get the same error, only now the machine pauses for ever on semdmail, so I turned sendmail off. Anyway, linux is not very fun with out an internet connection Here is what I know about my ether net card (printed from some program in windoze...): xE800 - xE8FF Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter IRQ 10 Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter IRQ 10 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering xEA80 - xEA8000FF Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter Net Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_11ADDEV_C115SUBSYS_C00111ADREV_25\BUS_00DEV_0AFUNC_00 Alloc resources:Logical Configuration 0 IRQ:
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Linux-Misc Digest #265, Volume #24 Tue, 25 Apr 00 12:13:15 EDT Contents: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition innovation ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: lilo without 1024 cyl. limit (John Brock) Sun disk writes are very slow, looking for explanation (Roman Sulzhyk) Re: pine and roadrunner (Jan Schaumann) Re: [HELP] How to describe audio/x-playlist ("Lam Dang") Re: USER PERMISSIONS (David Efflandt) Re: News server recommendation (Russ Allbery) Re: Serial port (Leonard Evens) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition innovation Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy Date: 24 Apr 2000 23:37:47 GMT Sen Donnchadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : On 23 Apr 2000 23:13:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip : What's classic is your childish attempt to distort what I said, which was : that there are "half a handful of well-known instances". Somehow that : turned into "many well-known and commonly experienced examples"?! OK then, : I'll give you the same challenge I've given countless others: name at : least 5 examples of problems you've experienced that have been traced to : unique DLL conflicts. I'm not talking about times you've blindly : attributed something to DLL Hell; I want proof. "Proof" beyond all doubt is often difficult to find in this case, as unlike many other systems the basic tools to locate the problem aren't shipped with the system. Somehow I don't even think you would argue that Visual C++ needs to be installed on every user's machine that has a problem. Most of the time, we try to fix the problem as quickly as possible, which on Windows systems rarely means actually locating it. Even MS "support" will tell you to simply reinstall, rather then find the problem. snip : No offense, but I find this extremely hard to believe, as Win98 backs up : the registry at boot time and keeps at least five backups around. Perhaps : you simply didn't know how to find them? You're right, I don't. You'd think that when the system fries itself and tells me the registry is non-existent, that it might be so kind as to point me to the backup? I guess not... What's the point of automatically backing up the registry if the system has no idea how to find the backups on its own, or at least point the user to them? The "manual" that Win98 typically comes with now has no mention of it...if it's anywere it's in the online "help" docs...which can't be accessed through dos of course... : Also, Win9x has absolutely no file security; Apache could issue a single : call and blow the registry away. Yep. That's a problem. : Should have been prevented by the OS? Yes. : Not in Win9x, whose architecture was deliberately compromised in favor of : legacy compatibility. I'd call that a fault. Wouldn't you? : It's not like MS doesn't offer an OS that *DOES* protect against this kind : of thing. They do? You're not talking about NT, are you? Many apps won't run correctly or at all unless the user is an Administrator... My most recent experience with this was trying to get the Palm Desktop to work. If run as anyone but an Administrator (and the admin who installed it, no less) it "performed an illegal operation". Perhaps Win2k has fixed this, I don't know. : Of course not. However, Unix application installs however, don't : mess with /usr/lib and friends, thus making the "problem" : impossible. : : Excuse me? Where the hell do you think gcc put its data files? /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.2.1 /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-unknown-freebsd3.1/2.8.1 ...etc Doesn't look like /lib or /usr/lib to me. : How about X11? /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 And non-core X is in /usr/local/lib/X11 What's your point? : Honestly, I'm beginning to think you haven't spent much time with Unix at : all. Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you. : Unless you're running a braindead system like RedHat...but that's another : flame war... : : So Unix is *NOT* immune to these problems after all? If a single particular vender decides to go off and break a perfectly good system, sure no one can stop them. : Application installs have no business touching anything in : C:/WINDOWS/SYSTEM*, yet almost every single one does. : : It is a tremendous exaggeration to say that almost every app touches the : system directory. That simply isn't true. Games almost never do, nor does : a huge amount of shareware a
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Linux-Misc Digest #265, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 18:13:08 EDT Contents: Split infinitives (was: Re: My Linux box was hacked!) (Matt Curtin) Re: Program to find optimal MTU? (Floyd Davidson) Re: video editing on linux? (Vito DeFilippo) Re: LOST ROOT PASSWORD ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Newbie in Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: currencies (Donovan Rebbechi) StarOffice RedHat 6.0 ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Newbie in Houston ("James Davis") Re: Linux Net2Phone (Habibie4m) Need help Setting UP News Client Using NetScape 4.6.1 (Habibie4m) Re: ttf? ("R.K.Aa") Re: What I think of linux. (Dan Delaney) Re: kernel 2.2.10 isofs bug? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: POP Mail? (Joe Cotellese) Red Hat 6.0 vs. 5.2 for UDB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) tar restore problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Problems with LILO and kernel size. (Dave Davenport) From: Matt Curtin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.usage.english Subject: Split infinitives (was: Re: My Linux box was hacked!) Date: 02 Aug 1999 16:32:18 -0400 On Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:20:28 +0100, John M Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [Note that I'm crossposting to alt.usage.english and directing followups there.] Matt o "To either help" is a split infinitive, which is also Matt grammatically incorrect. John Actually, this is bullshit, as any linguist will tell you. The John idea that one may not "split infinitives" is a remnant from a John time when Latin was considered to be a relevant language. For anyone still paying attention, John is making reference to the origin of the debated "no split infinitive" rule in English. Although a Germanic language, English grammar has been heavily influenced by Latin. In Latin, split infinitives are not possible, as the infinitive form of a verb is an inflected version of the verb. (I suspect that the impossibility of splitting infinitives is true in most languages; I know that this true for Russian. In cases I can conjure, this is also true for German. However, my knowledge of German isn't strong enough to proclaim this generally true; perhaps someone who knows the language better than I would care to enlighten us.) I am grateful to Ashok Aiyar for privately writing to quote "the new Oxford Dictionary of English", wherein it concludes "In the modern context, some traditionalists may continue to hold up the split infinitive as an error in English. However, in standard English the principle of allowing split infinitives is broadly accepted as both normal and useful." Whilst I acknowledge that there are educated native speakers who will disagree with my insistence upon split infinitive avoidance, the fact of the matter is that "to help" is a single verb. "To either help" is no more correct than "abso-frickin'-lutely". -- Matt Curtin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/ -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: Program to find optimal MTU? Date: 2 Aug 1999 18:03:47 GMT Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clifford Kite kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com wrote: Floyd Davidson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : Steve Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Is there a program to identify the optimal MTU for a given interface : under Linux v2.2.x? If so, where might I find it? : That would be impossible, because it depends on what you use the : link for as well as how fast it is and what the latency is. Yes, if "optimal" is defined that way. He may have meant Path MTU which is defined as the largest MTU that doesn't fragment packets on any host on the path. This is found through the Path MTU Discovery mentioned in other replies. I would assume that if he meant Path MTU that he would have mentioned Path MTU instead of asking about the optimal MTU for a given interface, which indicates Link MTU. Path MTU certainly would be appropriate if he is writing networked applications. But he is more likely setting up pppd options. : For rough idea of what differences you might find, think in : terms of efficiency and timing for PPP packets. A PPP packet : has 40 bytes of overhead (addressing, etc.), so whatever the mtu : is set to, that amount minus 40 bytes is the actual payload. Actually it's the TCP-IP headers in IP packets riding on PPP that occupy the 40 bytes. Actually... The TCP header is 20 bytes, the IPv4 header is 20 bytes and the PPP frame header is 4 bytes. However, no matter how one looks at the distribution, the point is that there are 40 bytes of overhead per packet fed to the PPP interface (which adds 4 more that I was ignoring). : For example, if you set the mtu to 128 there will be almost 1/3 : of each packet that is overhead and does not contribute to data : transfer. If you
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Linux-Misc Digest #265, Volume #20 Wed, 19 May 99 21:13:09 EDT Contents: Re: Where is kernel in Mandrake 5.3?? (hellraiser) how to run EC program on web? ("peary") re: Big Tar problem (Jarvis) Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (Rene van Valkenburg) Re: Calendaring (David Pitts) Re: New cable modem means I have a lot to learn (Robert Heller) Re: Getting PPP to work (David Pitts) Re: moving directories (Chris) OpenSSL0.9.2b+ Redhat 5.2 on Alpha: cannot "configure" ("Sean Boran") Re: NT the best web platform? (Benoit Goudreault-Emond) Makeing a boot/root disk , howto ? (Mirko Roller) Re: Creating Redhat 6 CD image (John Auld) Re: /usr/sbin/in.identd missing? (Matt Kressel) Re: Communism dosn't even exist, never did... ("Martin Ozolins") Re: Need help setting up system. (Keven R. Pittsinger) Re: Non-destructive partioning of linux partition? (Rod Smith) From: hellraiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where is kernel in Mandrake 5.3?? Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:14:00 -0400 Phillip wrote: I've just installed Mandrake 5.3 and tried to recompile the kernel the same way I did with RedHat 5.2 and when I type 'make menuconfig' in /usr/src/linux, I get error messages. I've played around with it and can't figure it out. what errors are you getting? my guess is that you probably don't have the ncurses library installed. if that is the case, then get the ncurses library (i forgot where... try freshmeat.net), or try 'make config' or 'make xconfig'. Appreciate the time. As I am not a regular reader of this group, please reply to me via e-mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks alot!!! -- hellraiser ( @linuxfreak.com || @nac.net ) awk 'BEGIN { printf "Just another %s hacker\n", ARGV[0] }' GMU/O d-- s-:- !a C+++ UL+++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N+++ o-- K? !W--- O- !M-- V- PS+++ PE-- Y PGP- !t--- !5-- X R+++ !tv b++ DI+ D+++ G++ e- h! r- z -- From: "peary" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how to run EC program on web? Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:20:46 +0800 Hi, all, I use Informix SE on LINUX, and I found a problem. I write an easy EC program(nothing about sql) and compile it to execution file. It can run well under linux command, but if i run it on web browser, it don't work(never have output). But if I rename it to "tt.c" , and compile it to an execution file. It can run well on both linux command and the web browser. I don't know why? It is the same C program and nothing about SQL, just compiled by different C compiler. Why one can execute on web browser, and the other can't? Anyone knows? Does any parameter I need to set on linux for web? Thanks... Peary Here is my program, "tt.ec" #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include string.h void main(int argc,char *argv[]) { printf("Content-type:text/html%c%c",10,10); printf("This tests the output of C on WEB...\n"); /*printf("%s",argv[1]);*/ return; } -- From: Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux Subject: re: Big Tar problem Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:31:41 +0800 I seem to have a big problem with my tar after i upgrading my kernel to 2.2.7 and i dont know if it is a linux trojan/virus or some program conflict with my kernel. Please advise. Everytime i tar a program with root, the program extracts nicely however the owner and the gourp of the file is some random normal user or sometimes numbers. I am not sure but i think that my tar also affects compiled files in the *.tar file, recently i downloaded vmware and after installing i tried to run vmware and it couldnt find the file although i got the path right. Also had the same problem when i downloaded mtv Anyone have this problem? thanks J -- From: Rene van Valkenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page Date: 19 May 1999 22:45:16 GMT In nl.comp.os.linux Thomer M. Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Vi Lovers Home Page: http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html The only true EDitor: http://swarm.cs.wustl.edu/~jxh/ed.html -- Rene van Valkenburg - jiggel on IRC Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature file to help me spread! -- From: David Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Calendaring Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 03:56:22 -0700 On Tue, 18 May 1999, Cameron Spitzer wrote: In article N6o03.11012$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 May 1999 10:36:30 -0600, Stan Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to know if there is an application on Linux that would allow calendar sharing. I have a bunch of users running Windows 95/98 using Outlook 97. Plan has been doing this for a goodly five years; Great tease. How
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Linux-Misc Digest #265, Volume #19Tue, 2 Mar 99 16:13:11 EST Contents: demand dialing vs. the other demand dialing (Alan Curry) Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX (Norbert Grundmann) Re: Backup software (Paul Davis) Re: FreeAgent for Linux (Anatol Quabach) Multisession (Thomas Mueller) KDE and KOffice (rhino) Re: Stop this bogosity, damnit! Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Lance Woodson) Re: mkisofs AND loopback mount ("Thomas T. Veldhouse") Re: Help! My printer won't print at all! (Gary Krupa) Re: Newbie - plz help (Houben S.H.M.J.) Announcing Project LIMP (Jordan Husney) Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: PPP + Laptop + Desktop (Sam E. Trenholme) reading ext2 partition from within win95 (Sami Yousif) Re: Public license question (Gergo Barany) Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Powe) Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Powe) Subject: demand dialing vs. the other demand dialing From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Curry) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:03:27 GMT Has anyone successfully used the pppd "demand" option, or is it considered a joke and diald the True Way? Does "pppd demand" randomly eat all your existing routes, effectively turing off the ethernet device, or am I seeing things? -- Alan Curry|Declaration of | _../\. ./\.._ .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]|bigotries (should| [| |]/_ /_ ==+save some time): | \__/ \__/ \___:\___: Linux,vim,trn,GPL,zsh,qmail,^H | "Screw you guys, I'm going home" -- Cartman -- From: Norbert Grundmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs LINUX Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:07:36 + Donn Miller wrote: Seth Van Oort wrote: James Fox wrote: What are the pros and cons? I'll be using the JDK, GNU-C++, Apache, Netscape, etc. What are the chances of a merger of Linux and FreeBSD? you mean an honest to goodness merger? If you witnessed the spat that's been taking place over the past three weeks, I'd say the chances aren't too good. I asked the same question a couple of weeks back. A merger isn't going to happen, as FreeBSD and Linux have different models for development. The kernel code for each OS is different, and FreeBSD would like stay with the legacy BSD kernel code as much possible. The best you could do is invent a common i386 binary type that runs on the i386 versions of FreeBSD and Linux. Just check on the thread I started, called FreeBSD/Linux project from about 2 weeks ago. You could probably actually found a new OS, whose kernel, source code, etc. are derived from both FreeBSD and Linux. Donn Hello, why put them together? If they are different, it is ok. The market is enriched by many systems, not a 'monolithic' one. Like many ideas avoid having a braindead in a system, different unix systems can help each other and go further in development. If the development would be put together the result is often a slower and slower growing product, or a product that can everything like a car that can fly, swim, drive and more, but is neither a car, boat, rocket or airplane. I like FreeBSD and prefer it, but I have respect on Linux. Greetings, Norbert -- +--+ | EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | |...powered by FreeBSD | +--+ -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Davis) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x Subject: Re: Backup software Date: Tue, 02 Mar 99 13:43:00 GMT Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use KBackup by Karsten Balluder. http://www.phy.hw.ac.uk/~karsten/KBackup/ In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Rick Knight" writes: Can anyone recommend a backup/restore program for Linux (RH 5.2) and=20 X? I have a Seagate STT28000n SCSI Travan tape drive GUI based program=20 to use with it. I've tried Knox's ARKEIA but it seems to buggy and the=20 backup utility that comes with KDE doesn't support my drive. -Paul -- Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: Anatol Quabach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeAgent for Linux Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 15:07:03 +0100 Bud Rogers wrote: I have heard rumours (from god knows where) that there is a Linux porting project of the Agent reader going on. Can anyone confirm this? As in a port by Forte? Be still my beating heart. I don't think so. The day they announced the first non-beta release of Agent, I sent