Re: [Fwd: Re: DVD-XINE]

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
 I do have all the above files installed, Matt, as well as the xine one; Xine
 is now running fine it was me pressing wrong buttons. I find the latest gui
 confusing and somewhat ambiguous.

I agree 100%.  THe xine gui is a nighmare of way too many small buttons.
In their feeble attempt to emulate the look of a real DVD player, they've
botched it miserably.  If any DVD player had that many buttons on the
front panel, no one would use it either.

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Re: sinek

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote:
 Has anyone compiled sinek(0.6)  from source lately? I keep bombing out with
 glib =2.0 error. The latest glib that I can find is 1.2.10 must be a config
 script error. I'm wondering if perhaps it should be looking for glibc =2.0?

0.6 must have been released very recently, since i built 0.5 about 2 weeks
ago.  i'll give it a whirl today, and let you know how it goes.  There is
a glib-2.0 out, but its still beta.  So, if that's what its demanding,
then i won't bother.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 July 2002 11:31 pm, Net Llama! espoused with vigour:

   Mplayer:
-L/usr/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib -lSDL -lpthread -Lvidix -lvidix
   libmpdemux/libmpdemux.a(demux_ogg.o): In function
   `demux_ogg_read_packet': demux_ogg.o(.text+0x5e): undefined reference to
   `vorbis_packet_blocksize' make: *** [mplayer] Error 1
 
  Do you need/want ogg/vorbis support for Mplayer?  That's what is causing
  this mess, and it might just be easier to ax it.

 Yes it will do it now BUT!

excellent


 I have got Linuxvideostudio to install at last; copied libpng.so.2 to
 /usr/X11R6/lib and that fixed it. However I cannot now get it to work so I
 tried to reinstall the rpm I just made, it complains it cannot find

rpm of what??

 libpng.so.2. This bloody lib is a real pain in the arse as I want a gui with
 MPLayer and it cannot install because it cannot fine libpng.so.2.

 locate finds:
 /lib/libpng.a
 /lib/libpng.so
 /lib/libpng.so.2
 /lib/libpng.so.2.1.0.8
 and also...
 /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/libpng.pc
 /usr/local/lib/libpng12.a
 /usr/local/lib/libpng.a
 /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0.1.2.4
 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so
 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3
 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3.1.2.4
 /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0
 /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so

 So what the hell does it need and where is it looking for the lib.

 BTW it is not seeing the version in /usr/X11R6/lib ?

You've got multiple versions of libpng all over the place.  On my box, i
have libpng-1.0.9 in /usr/lib and that's it.  When you run ldconfig -v |
grep libpng what do you see for output?  Do you have /usr/X11R6/lib in
/etc/ld.so.conf?

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Print Server

2002-07-11 Thread Richard R. Sivernell



  Print question:
eWorkstation 3.1.1 Samba 2.2  cups 1.15
Neatgear print server, like jetdirect from HP but cheaper

Usijng Kups in control panel I can use the raw printer, but not 
text is printered, but the HP2000C just moves paper from input 
to output. If I select the proper driver, Kups says it can not create
temp printer. Usinging Cups admin in browser, I get server error -
internal error.
 
Windows prints to the server just fine,  so does printer. I would 
set to windows printing except the samba selection is grayed out
on the list of selectable choices.  Has anyone been able to get this
working on their system.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 10 July 2002 11:31 pm, Net Llama! espoused with vigour:

  /usr/lib/libpng.a(pngwutil.o): In function `png_write_IHDR':
  pngwutil.o(.text+0x8c8): undefined reference to `deflateInit2_'
  /usr/lib/libpng.a(pngwutil.o): In function `png_write_finish_row':
  pngwutil.o(.text+0x2117): undefined reference to `deflate'
  pngwutil.o(.text+0x21b6): undefined reference to `deflateReset'
  /usr/lib/libpng.a(pngwutil.o): In function `png_write_filtered_row':
  pngwutil.o(.text+0x3071): undefined reference to `deflate'
  make[2]: *** [stv] Error 1
  make[2]: Leaving directory `/build/linuxvideostudio-0.1.5/src'

 Perhaps you need to use a newer version of libpng?  What was your
 configure line?

Err, ./configure grin

  Mplayer:
   -L/usr/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib -lSDL -lpthread -Lvidix -lvidix
  libmpdemux/libmpdemux.a(demux_ogg.o): In function
  `demux_ogg_read_packet': demux_ogg.o(.text+0x5e): undefined reference to
  `vorbis_packet_blocksize' make: *** [mplayer] Error 1

 Do you need/want ogg/vorbis support for Mplayer?  That's what is causing
 this mess, and it might just be easier to ax it.

Ok i'll try and axe it then.

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KDE 3 setup question...

2002-07-11 Thread Jerry McBride


Does anyone know in which script or program that the desktop directory at
~/Desktop is created? I thought it
was in /etc/X11/xinit/kdeinitrc... but it appears this stuff isn't even
looked at anymore...

Thank you, in advance.



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Mandrake 8.2 Grub Windows 2000 dual boot issue

2002-07-11 Thread James McDonald

Hi Y'all,

I installed w2k 1st on partition 1 and mdk8.2 on the other half of hda 
when I installed mdk8.2 it over wrote my my boot sector code for w2kpro 
so I did a boot sector restore using the w2k recovery console... In the 
past I have installed linux boot loader to the hdaX partition(where 
ever I installed linux) and then dd if=/dev/hdaX of=$HOME/linux.ldr 
count=1 bs=512 but this time I wasn't thinking when I wrote the linux 
boot loader...

The question is how do I get grub to write a boot sector to a spot on 
the linux partition disk that I  can then copy the boot code to a 
floppy using dd and then to the root of my C:\ to include in boot.ini.

I am not sure if I have but It may have included devfs because my 
devices point to /dev/hdaX -- some/long/path/I/can't/remember.

Thanks in Advance if anyone has a handle on this...

Cheers
James


 

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sinek

2002-07-11 Thread Ted Ozolins

Has anyone compiled sinek(0.6)  from source lately? I keep bombing out with 
glib =2.0 error. The latest glib that I can find is 1.2.10 must be a config 
script error. I'm wondering if perhaps it should be looking for glibc =2.0?
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Re: SCO Unix and ntpdate

2002-07-11 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:45:55 -0500
begin  Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

  have been asked by IT to help them with a Unix system they have.  It's
  SCO 
 Unix (uname -a gives UNIX_SV,  4.2mp 2.1.3 i686 x86at).
 
 They are trying to use ntpdate to synch with a Win2K server that is
 acting as a ntp server.   For testing we ran ntpdate servername and get
 the message No servers available for synchronization.

I've gotten this on occasion from my ntp server.  Not looked into it,
however:
when I've gotten this error message, it's almost always been immediately
after I shut down then fired up ntpd.  If I wait for a while, the error
disappears.  I believe ntpd won't allow itself to be used to update from
until it has received a certain number of updates itself (must check
this).

It also happens when there's high network latency.

Ciao,

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 10 July 2002 11:31 pm, Net Llama! espoused with vigour:

  Mplayer:
   -L/usr/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib -lSDL -lpthread -Lvidix -lvidix
  libmpdemux/libmpdemux.a(demux_ogg.o): In function
  `demux_ogg_read_packet': demux_ogg.o(.text+0x5e): undefined reference to
  `vorbis_packet_blocksize' make: *** [mplayer] Error 1

 Do you need/want ogg/vorbis support for Mplayer?  That's what is causing
 this mess, and it might just be easier to ax it.

Yes it will do it now BUT!

I have got Linuxvideostudio to install at last; copied libpng.so.2 to 
/usr/X11R6/lib and that fixed it. However I cannot now get it to work so I 
tried to reinstall the rpm I just made, it complains it cannot find 
libpng.so.2. This bloody lib is a real pain in the arse as I want a gui with 
MPLayer and it cannot install because it cannot fine libpng.so.2.

locate finds:
/lib/libpng.a
/lib/libpng.so
/lib/libpng.so.2
/lib/libpng.so.2.1.0.8
and also...
/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/libpng.pc
/usr/local/lib/libpng12.a
/usr/local/lib/libpng.a
/usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0.1.2.4
/usr/local/lib/libpng.so
/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3
/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3.1.2.4
/usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0
/usr/local/lib/libpng12.so

So what the hell does it need and where is it looking for the lib.

BTW it is not seeing the version in /usr/X11R6/lib ?

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Re: [Fwd: Re: DVD-XINE]

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 10 July 2002 12:21 am, Matthew Carpenter espoused with vigour:
 AFAIK this probably has to do with Xine's public declaration that they do
 not support the libdvdcss at this time due to its questionable legal
 status.  Why doesn't someone just rewrite it and be done with it?  The
 secret concepts are blown.  You can't outlaw the use of concepts,
 especially if there are 5 or 10 different implementations of it.

 It would seem that one could run Xine without the NAV plugin and use only
 xine-lib and xine-ui.  (I believe) This would use the standard builtin
 Xine DVD subsystem.  The following packages give the NAV subsystem, which
 is often considered better than the built-in one:

 libdvdread
 libdvdnav
 xine-dvdnav

 According to the README file for libdvdread, it currently uses libdl to
 dynamically probe for libdvdcss at runtime.  So if you have it,
 congratulations, if not, you still can use the new subsystem if you like.

 Look for COL3.1.x rpms to be linked to from the SxS site coming soon.
 (Due to potential legal issues, all but the libdvdcss packages will be
 included.  If use of libdvdcss is legal for you, pull it from the videolan
 site and buld from source-it should still work)

 Matt

I do have all the above files installed, Matt, as well as the xine one; Xine 
is now running fine it was me pressing wrong buttons. I find the latest gui 
confusing and somewhat ambiguous.

Re rpms for Col 3.1.1 I have a heap now that i have been making for the past 
6 weeks and am updating all those on the last version. They have been made 
with checkinstall and are i686. Many to do with streaming video and cd 
recording, kernel 2.4.18, kde3.0.1, qt3.0.4, libs etc.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: DVD-XINE]

2002-07-11 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Part of the confusion is due to the fact that the Xine team can't make use
of the Libdvdcss libs.  If they could, I'd probably scrap NAV and just use
DVD.  Then again, perhaps there is away to scrap DVD and rename NAV to
DVD  That could be a LITTLE less confusing...

I might be persuaded to provide a location to store/retrieve these RPMs...

Matt


On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:50:07 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
  I do have all the above files installed, Matt, as well as the xine
  one; Xine is now running fine it was me pressing wrong buttons. I find
  the latest gui confusing and somewhat ambiguous.
 
 I agree 100%.  THe xine gui is a nighmare of way too many small buttons.
 In their feeble attempt to emulate the look of a real DVD player,
 they've botched it miserably.  If any DVD player had that many buttons
 on the front panel, no one would use it either.
 
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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Ted Ozolins

On Wednesday 10 July 2002 23:16, Keith Antoine wrote:


 I have got Linuxvideostudio to install at last; copied libpng.so.2 to
 /usr/X11R6/lib and that fixed it. However I cannot now get it to work so I
 tried to reinstall the rpm I just made, it complains it cannot find
 libpng.so.2. This bloody lib is a real pain in the arse as I want a gui
 with MPLayer and it cannot install because it cannot fine libpng.so.2.

 locate finds:
 /lib/libpng.a
 /lib/libpng.so
 /lib/libpng.so.2
 /lib/libpng.so.2.1.0.8
 and also...
 /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/libpng.pc
 /usr/local/lib/libpng12.a
 /usr/local/lib/libpng.a
 /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0.1.2.4
 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so
 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3  ---*
 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3.1.2.4
 /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0
 /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so

 So what the hell does it need and where is it looking for the lib.

 BTW it is not seeing the version in /usr/X11R6/lib ?

Its looking for an older version of libpng. perhaps you could symlink 
libpng.so.2 to ~.so.3

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possible periodic outages

2002-07-11 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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Re: KDE 3 setup question...

2002-07-11 Thread Douglas J Hunley

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 Does anyone know in which script or program that the desktop directory at
 ~/Desktop is created? I thought it
 was in /etc/X11/xinit/kdeinitrc... but it appears this stuff isn't even
 looked at anymore...

 Thank you, in advance.

in control center, click look  feel, then desktop. it's under the Paths tab
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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Matthew Carpenter

This is because libpng.so.2 is listed as an RPM dependency, but there is
no RPM which claims to provide it.  That is where you have to do a
--nodeps and is one of the problems with RPM.  This is part of the
advantage to using Checkinstall when installing from source.  If you
compiled and installed libpng.so.2 with CheckInstall, all you should
(theoretically) need to do is alter the Provides line to include the
filename libpng.so.2 and you should be all set to install RPM's with deps
for it.


On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:16:37 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes it will do it now BUT!
 
 I have got Linuxvideostudio to install at last; copied libpng.so.2 to 
 /usr/X11R6/lib and that fixed it. However I cannot now get it to work so
 I tried to reinstall the rpm I just made, it complains it cannot find 
 libpng.so.2. This bloody lib is a real pain in the arse as I want a gui
 with MPLayer and it cannot install because it cannot fine libpng.so.2.
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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Matthew Carpenter

you need to rerun updatedb to update the locator database cache.  This
is done by cron daily, but it hasn't been done yet.  If you want to take
all that time to actually search every time, use the find command.

 On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:16:37 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW it is not seeing the version in /usr/X11R6/lib ?
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Re: sinek

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

ayup, sinek-0.6 needs glib-2.0 to build.  glib-2.0 can be found here:
http://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=glib2

it also comes as part of RH-7.3.

i honestly can't see anything significantly different between v0.5  0.6.

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote:

 Has anyone compiled sinek(0.6)  from source lately? I keep bombing out with
 glib =2.0 error. The latest glib that I can find is 1.2.10 must be a config
 script error. I'm wondering if perhaps it should be looking for glibc =2.0?


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Re: Print Server

2002-07-11 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Never used a NetGear server.  Does it do the port 515 thing?  Or is it an
IPP print server (port 631)?  Does the NetGear have a SMB Print-Server
option?  I don't know why the SAMBA printer option is greyed out in KUPS..
Sorry. 

If you do an NMAP scan against the print server, what are the results?

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:37:49 -0500
Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
   Print question:
 eWorkstation 3.1.1 Samba 2.2  cups 1.15
 Neatgear print server, like jetdirect from HP but cheaper
 
 Usijng Kups in control panel I can use the raw printer, but not 
 text is printered, but the HP2000C just moves paper from input 
 to output. If I select the proper driver, Kups says it can not create
 temp printer. Usinging Cups admin in browser, I get server error -
 internal error.
  
 Windows prints to the server just fine,  so does printer. I would 
 set to windows printing except the samba selection is grayed out
 on the list of selectable choices.  Has anyone been able to get this
 working on their system.
 
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Re: [Fwd: Re: DVD-XINE]

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:50, Net Llama! wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
  I do have all the above files installed, Matt, as well as the xine one;
  Xine is now running fine it was me pressing wrong buttons. I find the
  latest gui confusing and somewhat ambiguous.

 I agree 100%.  THe xine gui is a nighmare of way too many small buttons.
 In their feeble attempt to emulate the look of a real DVD player, they've
 botched it miserably.  If any DVD player had that many buttons on the
 front panel, no one would use it either.

How did you know that about me; everytime I put a disk in the player it ends 
up as a McDonalds.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:47, Net Llama! wrote:

  I have got Linuxvideostudio to install at last; copied libpng.so.2 to
  /usr/X11R6/lib and that fixed it. However I cannot now get it to work so
  I tried to reinstall the rpm I just made, it complains it cannot find

 rpm of what??

Libpng, I have versions 1.2.0, 1.2.1, 1.2.3, 1.2.4. All install but are not 
'seen'.



 You've got multiple versions of libpng all over the place.  On my box, i
 have libpng-1.0.9 in /usr/lib and that's it.  When you run ldconfig -v |
 grep libpng what do you see for output?  Do you have /usr/X11R6/lib in
 /etc/ld.so.conf?

[root@bigpond kantoine]# ldconfig -v | grep libpng
ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib' given more than once
ldconfig: File /lib/libintl.so is too small, not checked.
ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so is for unknown machine 36902.

ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so.0 is for unknown machine 36902.

ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 is for unknown machine 36902.

ldconfig: Cannot stat /lib/libslp.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libmmxnow.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libglib.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libgmodule.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libgthread.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libintl.so is too small, not checked.
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libpamc.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libqavm.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libcurses.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libslp.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libfame.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/X11R6/lib/libgdk.so: No such file or directory
ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk.so: No such file or directory
libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
libpng12.so.0 - libpng12.so.0.1.2.4


here is my ld.so.conf

/usr/X11R6/lib
/opt/kde/lib
/opt/kde2/lib
/opt/kde3/lib
/usr/lib/qt2/lib
/usr/lib/qt3/lib/
/opt/volution/lib
/usr/lib/
/usr/local/lib/


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Out Of Memory

2002-07-11 Thread patrick Kapturkiewicz

Hi,
What happens ?
Compaq Proliant ML370 G2 with HD 18 Gb, 256 Mb memory,

RedHat 7.1, Oracle 8i, 512 Mb swap, JDK 1.1.8v3

The command dbassist based on jre freezes during the
database creation on 1% value.
with free or sar, I can see the occupied memory
growing until 100%, then swap growing until 100%. At
last, The processus jre is killed by system.
Any idea ?
Thanks in advance.
Patrick

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:34, Ted Ozolins wrote:

  locate finds:
  /lib/libpng.a
  /lib/libpng.so
  /lib/libpng.so.2
  /lib/libpng.so.2.1.0.8

 Its looking for an older version of libpng. perhaps you could symlink
 libpng.so.2 to ~.so.3

Sorry Ted, you lost me here as the program on make complains about not having 
libpng.so.2 installed, but its there in /lib.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
  You've got multiple versions of libpng all over the place.  On my box, i
  have libpng-1.0.9 in /usr/lib and that's it.  When you run ldconfig -v |
  grep libpng what do you see for output?  Do you have /usr/X11R6/lib in
  /etc/ld.so.conf?

 [root@bigpond kantoine]# ldconfig -v | grep libpng
 ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib' given more than once
 ldconfig: File /lib/libintl.so is too small, not checked.
 ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so is for unknown machine 36902.

 ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so.0 is for unknown machine 36902.

 ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 is for unknown machine 36902.

 ldconfig: Cannot stat /lib/libslp.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libmmxnow.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libglib.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libgmodule.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libgthread.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libintl.so is too small, not checked.
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libpamc.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libqavm.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libcurses.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libslp.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libfame.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/X11R6/lib/libgdk.so: No such file or directory
 ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk.so: No such file or directory

Your box is a mess.  You really need to clean all of that up.

 libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
 libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
 libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
 libpng12.so.0 - libpng12.so.0.1.2.4

Are all 3 of those identical?  You should have 1, and only 1.  Having
multiples could explain the confusion, especially if they're all
different in some way.


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Re: [Fwd: Re: DVD-XINE]

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:32, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 Part of the confusion is due to the fact that the Xine team can't make use
 of the Libdvdcss libs.  If they could, I'd probably scrap NAV and just use
 DVD.  Then again, perhaps there is away to scrap DVD and rename NAV to
 DVD  That could be a LITTLE less confusing...

 I might be persuaded to provide a location to store/retrieve these RPMs...

 Matt

Thanks Matt, however Telstra charge my account for uploads as well as 
downloads, thats what has been stopping me. However i could do a selection 
per month of say 300mb grin. But we should talk about this offlist.

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Re: Out Of Memory

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [iso-8859-1] patrick Kapturkiewicz wrote:
 Hi,
 What happens ?
 Compaq Proliant ML370 G2 with HD 18 Gb, 256 Mb memory,

 RedHat 7.1, Oracle 8i, 512 Mb swap, JDK 1.1.8v3

hehehehehe...good old rh-7.1 with oracle no less.  this has been the bane
of my existence at work for the past month or so.

 The command dbassist based on jre freezes during the
 database creation on 1% value.
 with free or sar, I can see the occupied memory
 growing until 100%, then swap growing until 100%. At
 last, The processus jre is killed by system.
 Any idea ?

yes, a few:
1) Oracle-8i is *NOT* qualified on anything after RH-6.2.  Trying to run
it on RH-7.1 will expectedly result in failure.  I'm surprised you even
got it to install cleanly.
2) the default kernel that comes with RH-7.1 is 2.4.2.   not only is this
kernel ancient, but its *extremely* buggy, and does a horrid job managing
memory.  RH provides a 2.4.9 kernel for RH-7.1 as an upgrade.  i'd
strongly urge you to use it, if you're not already.
3) *ONLY* Oracle-9iR1 is qualified by Oracle to run on RH-7.1, and it
requires that you upgrade binutils in order to get all the libraries to
properly build during the oracle install process.  Don't even bother
trying to install 9i unless you upgrade binutils first.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:34, Ted Ozolins wrote:

   locate finds:
   /lib/libpng.a
   /lib/libpng.so
   /lib/libpng.so.2
   /lib/libpng.so.2.1.0.8

  Its looking for an older version of libpng. perhaps you could symlink
  libpng.so.2 to ~.so.3

 Sorry Ted, you lost me here as the program on make complains about not having
 libpng.so.2 installed, but its there in /lib.

but its also in 2 other locations on your box.  you've got a library mess,
prolly due to installing libpng from differing sources (RPMs, tarballs,
etc).

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Re: KDE 3 setup question...

2002-07-11 Thread Jerry McBride

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:55:13 -0400 Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Jerry McBride spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  Does anyone know in which script or program that the desktop directory
  at~/Desktop is created? I thought it
  was in /etc/X11/xinit/kdeinitrc... but it appears this stuff isn't
  even looked at anymore...
 
  Thank you, in advance.
 
 in control center, click look  feel, then desktop. it's under the Paths
 tab


Hmmm that's embarassing. Thanks Doug.


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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:16, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 you need to rerun updatedb to update the locator database cache.  This
 is done by cron daily, but it hasn't been done yet.  If you want to take
 all that time to actually search every time, use the find command.

Sorry mate, but in this case wrong! I always do an updatedb before I start 
configuring tarballs and using checkinstall to make rpms. Its is a bit wierd 
but I get this all to often where installed libs are not seen.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:14, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 This is because libpng.so.2 is listed as an RPM dependency, but there is
 no RPM which claims to provide it.  That is where you have to do a
 --nodeps and is one of the problems with RPM.  This is part of the
 advantage to using Checkinstall when installing from source.  If you
 compiled and installed libpng.so.2 with CheckInstall, all you should
 (theoretically) need to do is alter the Provides line to include the
 filename libpng.so.2 and you should be all set to install RPM's with deps
 for it.

I do not have an rpm for studio, I was compiling a tarball to do a 
checkinstall but i fell over on make, with cannot find and installed 
libpng.so.2. So I ani't got that far.

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Re: Out Of Memory

2002-07-11 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:29:04 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [iso-8859-1] patrick Kapturkiewicz wrote:
  Hi,
  What happens ?
  Compaq Proliant ML370 G2 with HD 18 Gb, 256 Mb memory,
 
  RedHat 7.1, Oracle 8i, 512 Mb swap, JDK 1.1.8v3
 
 hehehehehe...good old rh-7.1 with oracle no less.  this has been the bane
 of my existence at work for the past month or so.
 
  The command dbassist based on jre freezes during the
  database creation on 1% value.
  with free or sar, I can see the occupied memory
  growing until 100%, then swap growing until 100%. At
  last, The processus jre is killed by system.
  Any idea ?
 
 yes, a few:
 1) Oracle-8i is *NOT* qualified on anything after RH-6.2.  Trying to run
 it on RH-7.1 will expectedly result in failure.  I'm surprised you even
 got it to install cleanly.
 2) the default kernel that comes with RH-7.1 is 2.4.2.   not only is this
 kernel ancient, but its *extremely* buggy, and does a horrid job managing
 memory.  RH provides a 2.4.9 kernel for RH-7.1 as an upgrade.  i'd
 strongly urge you to use it, if you're not already.
 3) *ONLY* Oracle-9iR1 is qualified by Oracle to run on RH-7.1, and it
 requires that you upgrade binutils in order to get all the libraries to
 properly build during the oracle install process.  Don't even bother
 trying to install 9i unless you upgrade binutils first.
 
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  After all of that, what size database are you creating on a 18 gig
hd. Are you ofs compliant? How about permissions?

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Re: Print Server

2002-07-11 Thread Richard R. Sivernell

Matthew 

From Netgear:
Autosensing 10/100 Mbps network port.
Simultaneous support for Windows, NetWare, and UNIX printing.
Support for HP, Canon, Epson, and all major parallel printers.
Easy installation with FirstGear?, a Windows-based configuration tool.
Extensive LED indicators for at-a-glance status check.
Flash EPROM to enable software updates.

NETGEAR print servers enable you to connect printers to the network 
for sharing among multiple PCs. Compared to attaching a printer to your 
PC, the print server gives you more flexibility in placing the printer, more 
cost effectiveness, better performance, and simultaneous support for 
Windows¨, Netware, and UNIX printing. The PS104 print server is ideal 
for a home office with a few PCs. The PS110 is ideal for a small business 
or small office with a 10 or 100 Mbps network. PS110 10/100 Mbps Print 
Server Connects 2 parallel printers, e.g., a high-speed laser printer and 
a color printer. Attaches to a 10 or 100 Mbps hub or switch, providing 
effortless transition 
 from Ethernet to Fast Ethernet. Best for small 
business or small office with multiple printers and a 
10 or 100 Mbps 
network.
TYPICAL NETWORK SETUP

PS110
Printer Port
Two IEEE 1284
bi-directional parallel-ports
Network Port
One speed-sensing 10/100 Mbps port
(RJ-45) compliant with IEEE 802.3i
Ethernet and IEEE 802.3u Fast Ethernet
Status LED
Unit
Printer connection
Network connection
power, collision
link, activity, alert (per printer port)
link, 10 or 100 Mbps, receive, transmit
Network Protocol
TCP/IP, IPX/SPX, and NetBEUI
Dimensions
W 189mm (7.41) D 122mm (4.81) H 21mm (1.21)
Weight
0.73Kg (1.6lb)
Power Specification
12V DC 0.6A max; 7W AC
Localized plug for North America, Japan, UK, Europe, Australia
Environmental Specifications
Operating temperature 0° to 40°C (32° to 104°F)
Operating humidity 90% maximum relative humidity, noncondensing
Electromagnetic Emissions
CE mark, commercial
FCC Part 15 Class B
EN 55 022 (CISPR 22), Class B
VCCI class B ITE
Safety Agency Approvals (Power Adapter)
CE mark, commercial
UL listed (UL 1950)
CSA certified (CSA 22.2 #950)
TUV licensed (EN 60 950)
T-Mark


  This is about all I know of this unit. works great with NT,  Samba printing to
a 
NT share did work but just stopped. trying to figure out what is going on.

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Re: Out Of Memory

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

Richard R. Sivernell wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:29:04 -0400 (EDT)
 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [iso-8859-1] patrick Kapturkiewicz wrote:

Hi,
What happens ?
Compaq Proliant ML370 G2 with HD 18 Gb, 256 Mb memory,

RedHat 7.1, Oracle 8i, 512 Mb swap, JDK 1.1.8v3

hehehehehe...good old rh-7.1 with oracle no less.  this has been the bane
of my existence at work for the past month or so.


The command dbassist based on jre freezes during the
database creation on 1% value.
with free or sar, I can see the occupied memory
growing until 100%, then swap growing until 100%. At
last, The processus jre is killed by system.
Any idea ?

yes, a few:
1) Oracle-8i is *NOT* qualified on anything after RH-6.2.  Trying to run
it on RH-7.1 will expectedly result in failure.  I'm surprised you even
got it to install cleanly.
2) the default kernel that comes with RH-7.1 is 2.4.2.   not only is this
kernel ancient, but its *extremely* buggy, and does a horrid job managing
memory.  RH provides a 2.4.9 kernel for RH-7.1 as an upgrade.  i'd
strongly urge you to use it, if you're not already.
3) *ONLY* Oracle-9iR1 is qualified by Oracle to run on RH-7.1, and it
requires that you upgrade binutils in order to get all the libraries to
properly build during the oracle install process.  Don't even bother
trying to install 9i unless you upgrade binutils first.
 
 
 
   After all of that, what size database are you creating on a 18 gig
 hd. Are you ofs compliant? How about permissions?

Another excellent point.  Oracle will run incredibly poorly on the 
hardware that you've got.  18GB is going to disapear really fast, and 
256MB of memory is going to get sucked up within minutes, and i'd 
imagine just about all your swap will be gone within a few hours. 
Oracle needs at leat 1GB of physical memory to run decently.

Oracle is the KDE of databases.  Big, bloated, and loaded with 4300 
features that no one ever asked for.

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Good vim tip

2002-07-11 Thread Joel Hammer

This is so good I just had to pass it along.
For those who use vi(m), it is a nuisance to have to hit the esc key each
time you are done inserting text. So, in my .vimrc, I reprogrammed my ;
key to replace the esc key in the insert mode:

map! ; ^[l 

This works great. The only two problems are:
1. How to type a ; ?
2. Scrambled text when you past in text which has ;'s in it.

Problem one is solved by:
a) Either using the [cntrl]-v ; sequence while in the insert mode, or:
b) Programming a function key for this sequence of commands:
map! F2 ^[:set noremap^Ma;^[:set remap^Ma   

I must say, I don't fully understand option b, but someone on this list
gave it to me and it works great.

The second problem, how to paste in text with a ; in it had me stumped.
I had no luck trying to use function keys to toggle this definiton on and
off.
But, I realized, by pure happenstance, that the r command reads in text and
doesn't worry about mapped keys. 
So, using the magic of xclip, I reprogrammed a function key in my .vimrc
file for the following:

:rSpace!SpacexclipSpace-o^MSpace  

This nicely reads in the current clipboard without looking at key mapping.

Ahh...
The pain eases.

Now, it might just be worth my while to figure out how the klipper works.

Joel


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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Matthew Carpenter

I was assuming that you had just copied the libpng.so.2 to that directory.  If you had 
run updatedb since then, perhaps /etc/updatedb.conf has that directory structure 
pruned?

begin  Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:40:19 +1000 
excreted:

 
 Sorry mate, but in this case wrong! I always do an updatedb before I start 
 configuring tarballs and using checkinstall to make rpms. Its is a bit wierd 
 but I get this all to often where installed libs are not seen.
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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Matthew Carpenter

Where's libpng.so.2 come from?

begin  Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:45:36 +1000 
excreted:

 
 I do not have an rpm for studio, I was compiling a tarball to do a 
 checkinstall but i fell over on make, with cannot find and installed 
 libpng.so.2. So I ani't got that far.
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Re: Print Server

2002-07-11 Thread Matthew Carpenter

hmmm.

Afraid I can't help you much.  Aside from asking all the normal troubleshooting 
questions I'm sure you've asked yourself.  Until you figure out why Samba printing 
started failing, I would enable Unix printing and attempt to set up CUPS to print to a 
LPD printer, attempt to choose the appropriate driver, etc...  What has changed on 
this box recently?  It sounds like permissions are wrong.  You haven't dorked around 
with /tmp lately, have you?  Make sure /tmp has the current rights:

drwxrwxrwt   10 root root 1024 Jul 11 21:36 tmp

If not, that's:

chmod 1777 /tmp

Good luck, chief.  Let me know how it goes.  If you would like me to help more, let's 
talk offlist and perhaps I can get a look at the print server and/or the system.


begin  Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:14:30 -0500 
excreted:

   This is about all I know of this unit. works great with NT,  Samba printing to
 a 
 NT share did work but just stopped. trying to figure out what is going on.
 
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Updated Step

2002-07-11 Thread Nobody

erkaN has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/dvdplay.html to incorporate the 
following:
Updated with Turkish translation
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Updated Step

2002-07-11 Thread Nobody

erkaN has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/grubcdboot.html to incorporate the 
following:
Updated with Turkish translation
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NPR - Lindows + WalMart

2002-07-11 Thread Ken Moffat

On Morning Edition on NPR this morning they had a special on Walmart 
selling lindows computers. Not a bad audio clip. If you'd like to hear 
it check www.npr.org, then under programs choose Morning Edition, Latest 
program, and scroll down to the Lindows link. (You Need realplay8.)

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[ot] x-ray our soul

2002-07-11 Thread m.w.chang

Lately I watched a US news broadcast in Hong Kong. A security expert 
said that until we could x-ray customers' souls, there would never be 
true security for airport passengers.

I just wondered: what made he believed that the soul was really what it 
was? It's just a wrapper. Bsisdes, who could really define safety, 
ethics and virtue in modern world?

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:30, Net Llama! wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:34, Ted Ozolins wrote:
locate finds:
/lib/libpng.a
/lib/libpng.so
/lib/libpng.so.2
/lib/libpng.so.2.1.0.8
  
   Its looking for an older version of libpng. perhaps you could symlink
   libpng.so.2 to ~.so.3
 
  Sorry Ted, you lost me here as the program on make complains about not
  having libpng.so.2 installed, but its there in /lib.

 but its also in 2 other locations on your box.  you've got a library mess,
 prolly due to installing libpng from differing sources (RPMs, tarballs,
 etc).

Agreed but how do i rectify that.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:27, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 Where's libpng.so.2 come from?

 begin  Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 12 Jul 2002 
07:45:36 +1000 excreted:
  I do not have an rpm for studio, I was compiling a tarball to do a
  checkinstall but i fell over on make, with cannot find and installed
  libpng.so.2. So I ani't got that far.

Tarball to start and then rpm.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:30, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 I was assuming that you had just copied the libpng.so.2 to that directory. 
 If you had run updatedb since then, perhaps /etc/updatedb.conf has that
 directory structure pruned?

 begin  Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 12 Jul 2002 
07:40:19 +1000 excreted:
  Sorry mate, but in this case wrong! I always do an updatedb before I
  start configuring tarballs and using checkinstall to make rpms. Its is a
  bit wierd but I get this all to often where installed libs are not seen.

How does one rebuild the updated db database, now I always thought that it did 
that on updatedb being called. But what Lonnie is telling me its a mess, 
which it does look like.

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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Keith Antoine

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:25, Net Llama! wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
   You've got multiple versions of libpng all over the place.  On my box,
   i have libpng-1.0.9 in /usr/lib and that's it.  When you run ldconfig
   -v | grep libpng what do you see for output?  Do you have
   /usr/X11R6/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf?
 
  [root@bigpond kantoine]# ldconfig -v | grep libpng
  ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib' given more than once
  ldconfig: File /lib/libintl.so is too small, not checked.
  ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so is for unknown machine 36902.
 
  ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so.0 is for unknown machine 36902.
 
  ldconfig: /lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0 is for unknown machine 36902.
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /lib/libslp.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libmmxnow.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libglib.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libgmodule.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libgthread.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libintl.so is too small, not checked.
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libpamc.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libqavm.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libcurses.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libslp.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libfame.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/X11R6/lib/libgdk.so: No such file or directory
  ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk.so: No such file or directory

 Your box is a mess.  You really need to clean all of that up.

I agree but I have no idea how to clean this up. Is it that its recorded by 
ldconfig but no longer there or what.

  libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
  libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
  libpng.so.2 - libpng.so.2.1.0.8
  libpng12.so.0 - libpng12.so.0.1.2.4

 Are all 3 of those identical?  You should have 1, and only 1.  Having
 multiples could explain the confusion, especially if they're all
 different in some way.

Thde problem is that I see the links in the grep command but it means nothing 
to me as I cannot see those links to delete them. I have to 'see' them in the 
flesh so to speak, the imagination and foresight has gone.

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Re: NPR - Lindows + WalMart

2002-07-11 Thread Leon A. Goldstein

Ken Moffat wrote:
 On Morning Edition on NPR this morning they had a special on Walmart 
 selling lindows computers. Not a bad audio clip. If you'd like to hear 
 it check www.npr.org, then under programs choose Morning Edition, Latest 
 program, and scroll down to the Lindows link. (You Need realplay8.)

Did the NPR report mention that Lindows is a rather light installation,
and that you have to subscribe (to the tune of $100 or so) to download
productivity apps?

I don't think Lindows will make friends for Linux with its current
marketing model.
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Re: NPR - Lindows + WalMart

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
 Ken Moffat wrote:
 
On Morning Edition on NPR this morning they had a special on Walmart 
selling lindows computers. Not a bad audio clip. If you'd like to hear 
it check www.npr.org, then under programs choose Morning Edition, Latest 
program, and scroll down to the Lindows link. (You Need realplay8.)
 
 
 Did the NPR report mention that Lindows is a rather light installation,
 and that you have to subscribe (to the tune of $100 or so) to download
 productivity apps?

yes, it did.

 
 I don't think Lindows will make friends for Linux with its current
 marketing model.

its marketing model isn't intended to make friends with linux.  its 
meant for the walmart crowd, who in most cases struggle to find the 
POWER button.



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Re: Rmoving the sound modules

2002-07-11 Thread Net Llama!

Tim Wunder wrote:
 Hi list, 
 I've been dealing, off and on, with a niggling sound problem. None of the 
 sound recording apps I have want to work for me anymore. I've tried krecord 
 (which used to work), gramofile (which used to work) and audacity (which I've 
 just installed); krecord and audacity segfault on me, gramofile does nothing.
 
 Someone on the audacity help list suggested (among other things) that it could 
 be my sound driver mucking things up. After trying his other suggestions, 
 I've decided to download the latest emu10k1 driver and give that a shot. I 
 grabbed version 0.19a and compiled it just fine. I now wanna install the new 
 module in place of the other.
 
 This seemed to me to be a simple task, rmmod the existing emu10k1 module and 
 insmod the new one. Unfortunately, when I try 'rmmod -rv emu10k1', this is 
 what I get:
 Checking emu10k1 for persistent data
 rmmod: emu10k1: Device or resource busy
 Checking ac97_codec for persistent data
 rmmod: ac97_codec: Device or resource busy
 Checking sound for persistent data
 rmmod: sound: Device or resource busy
 
 It seems to me that this shoulda worked. What am I missing?

The modules are still in use, because something somewhere is writing to 
/dev/audio or one of the other /dev sound devices.  lsof should show you 
what.  If you're running KDE, all bets are off, cause i'm sure its 
breaking some law of physics somewhere.

 In the meanwhile, it appears as though I'm gonna need to reboot the box (after 
 removing the sound module references from /etc/modules/default) to unload 
 this driver.

Actually, removing it from /etc/modules/default (which is a caldera-ism, 
rather than the standard /etc/modules.conf) might help.



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Re: NPR - Lindows + WalMart

2002-07-11 Thread Joel Hammer

If Walmart can get people to use linux on the desktop, we should all be
grateful. This superior attitude of some linux users vis a vis the ordinary
user is simply inappropriate.

I haven't tried lindows although I might. If the  program warehouse
really works (Imagine, certified software that works. Is this really true?)
I'll be interested in it for a desktop machine, not a server.

The Walmart crowd is a very large segment of the buying public. I say
welcome to them!

Joel

 
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 08:16:03PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
 Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
  Ken Moffat wrote:
  
 On Morning Edition on NPR this morning they had a special on Walmart 
 selling lindows computers. Not a bad audio clip. If you'd like to hear 
 it check www.npr.org, then under programs choose Morning Edition, Latest 
 program, and scroll down to the Lindows link. (You Need realplay8.)
  
  
  Did the NPR report mention that Lindows is a rather light installation,
  and that you have to subscribe (to the tune of $100 or so) to download
  productivity apps?
 
 yes, it did.
 
  
  I don't think Lindows will make friends for Linux with its current
  marketing model.
 
 its marketing model isn't intended to make friends with linux.  its 
 meant for the walmart crowd, who in most cases struggle to find the 
 POWER button.
 
 
 
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Re: have a compile problem

2002-07-11 Thread Ted Ozolins

On Thursday 11 July 2002 14:30, Net Llama! wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:34, Ted Ozolins wrote:
locate finds:
/lib/libpng.a
/lib/libpng.so
/lib/libpng.so.2
/lib/libpng.so.2.1.0.8
  
   Its looking for an older version of libpng. perhaps you could symlink
   libpng.so.2 to ~.so.3
 
  Sorry Ted, you lost me here as the program on make complains about not
  having libpng.so.2 installed, but its there in /lib.

 but its also in 2 other locations on your box.  you've got a library mess,
 prolly due to installing libpng from differing sources (RPMs, tarballs,
 etc).
What order is /usr/local/lib in your ld.so.conf.  It seems to be finding the 
newer ver but not so.2
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