kernel bonk

2001-10-03 Thread Tony Alfrey

Hi list!

Can someone help me diagnose my kernel bonk?  When I try to boot a 
2.4.4 kernel that I compiled, it seems to go quite a ways into the 
boot-up process before it crashes with the following message:

NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0
request_module [block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
VFS: Cannot open root device 804 or 08:04
Please append a correct root =  boot option

Did I forget to include something in xconfig?
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wu-ftpd and syslog

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

I don't quite understand the insturctions in http://linux.nf regarding
the use /usr/info/zoneinfo to make ftpd to log the right time in syslog.
What should I do?

ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Hongkong /home/ftp/etc/localtime ?


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Re: OT photographs online at last

2001-10-03 Thread burns

On October  3, 2001 03:00 am, Keith Antoine wrote:

 That was Kurt not me, I would have said it.

Shite! I'm confused again. mumbles sheepishly
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Re: kernel bonk

2001-10-03 Thread Joel Hammer

I am rusty on lilo.conf, but here is what works in my box.

image = /vmlinuz-NoModules
label  = linux
root   = /dev/hda1
read-only
vga = ask
append = debug=2 noapic nosmp  
On my linux box, device 8:04 is sda4. (ls -al /dev). I don't know nuthin'
about scsi.
Joel

On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 02:53:28AM -0700, Tony Alfrey wrote:
 Hi list!
 
 Can someone help me diagnose my kernel bonk?  When I try to boot a 
 2.4.4 kernel that I compiled, it seems to go quite a ways into the 
 boot-up process before it crashes with the following message:
 
 NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0
 request_module [block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
 VFS: Cannot open root device 804 or 08:04
 Please append a correct root =  boot option
 
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RE: OT New Grandson

2001-10-03 Thread Tom Wilson

Rick Sivernell:
 Lisyt
 
   wll I have been hard at work here slaving over this  that, 
 BUT Sunday 
 afternoon, it all came to a head. My second grandson was 
 born, he is also my 
 third grandchild. We are a strutten like a Peacock here. If 
 you would like to 
 see a couple 0of pictures of this little guy, soon to be a 
 Linux user as his 
 dad is, go to this url:
 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/s/sandoval/
 
 Cheers and Virtual Cigars for all, heck make them Virtual 
 Cuban Cigars, Enjoy

Congratulations to you and your family.  A welcomed addition I'm sure.  I
haven't had a good Cuban in .well, I've never had a Cuban.  

--Tom Wilson
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Re: OT Re: photographs online at last

2001-10-03 Thread stayler

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:10:52 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:

Otherwise this one in about 4 hrs time: this is on the remote server full time
http://www.eastwind.com.au/photos

h, down wind of Skippy can't be a good thing  ;-)

stayler

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Re: wu-ftpd and syslog

2001-10-03 Thread Matt . Carpenter


Nice sig, Kurt.

BTW-  Something I've been wondering, what is the difference between things
like EST, EST5EDT, and America/Detroit.  All I know is that running
Notes through Wine sure has a hard time figuring out what time it is.  All
my appointments get placed an hour late...

Thanks,
Matt


   

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Chang wrote:
% I don't quite understand the insturctions in http://linux.nf regarding
% the use /usr/info/zoneinfo to make ftpd to log the right time in syslog.
% What should I do?
%
% ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Hongkong /home/ftp/etc/localtime ?

ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Hongkong /etc/localtime

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Re: Suse filing Chap. 11?

2001-10-03 Thread dep

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 08:50, Susan Macchia wrote:
| I heard from a co-worker that Suse filed chapter 11.  Does anyone
| know if this is simply a rumour?

http://www.suse.com/us/suse/news/PressReleases/investment.html
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Re: Suse filing Chap. 11?

2001-10-03 Thread Matt . Carpenter


I'll take that as a loud NOT.  Where would such a rumor start with THAT
kind of press?


   
 
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On Wednesday 03 October 2001 08:50, Susan Macchia wrote:
| I heard from a co-worker that Suse filed chapter 11.  Does anyone
| know if this is simply a rumour?

http://www.suse.com/us/suse/news/PressReleases/investment.html


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Re: Barbie.com and KDE 2.1.2

2001-10-03 Thread MHeinrich


On 10/2/2001 Mark wrote:

When my girls try to visit Barbie.com using Konq the screen won't load.  Is
this a windows site?  They don't have any problems accessing the site in
windows (using ie or netscape).  Is there anything I can do to get it to
load - plugins, settings?


After looking into this a little further, the main page seems to load (but
a little slow).  The pages that have activities (Games, Fashion Fun, etc)
don't load any of the detail.  They show that something should be there but
it can't read it.  The links are .asp's.  I tried using netscape in linux
(v 4.72) and message complaining that it didn't know how to handle an octet
text stream (seems like a MIME issue).

Mark



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Re: Barbie.com and KDE 2.1.2

2001-10-03 Thread MHeinrich


On 10/2/2001 Bill Day Wrote:
I believe it is due to maybe having certain java settings disabled.  check
around in your java settings.

I checked these and java is enabled.

Mark

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Re: Barbie.com and KDE 2.1.2

2001-10-03 Thread MHeinrich


On 10/2/2001 Keith Antoine wrote:

Ok there are a few things that can do that.
#1 Which version of kde are you using 2.2+. The old Konky was sus.

KDE 2.1.2

#2 Have you been into Konky and set it up to receive JAVA ?? Java is set
by
default to OFF. Why the hell it is; your guess.
settings- configure konqueror - konqueror browser
Java Tag (enable globally, Java script tag (enable globally)

Java was enabled globally

#3 Then there is the fact that you have not purchased and waved the Keith
Antoine 'magic wand' over the keyboard and box, this fixes things for
good.
No money back guarantee though

But what's the price?

...Mind you the screen only sees
things upside down after this.

I don't care how the screen sees things just as long as its rightside up
for me :)

Mark

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Re: Barbie.com and KDE 2.1.2

2001-10-03 Thread MHeinrich


Looks like I'm upgrading to 2.2.  Thanks Everyone for your help.

Mark

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Re: Barbie.com and KDE 2.1.2

2001-10-03 Thread John Hiemenz

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 07:54 am, you wrote:
 On 10/2/2001 Mark wrote:

 When my girls try to visit Barbie.com using Konq the screen won't load.  Is
 this a windows site?  They don't have any problems accessing the site in
 windows (using ie or netscape).  Is there anything I can do to get it to
 load - plugins, settings?


 After looking into this a little further, the main page seems to load (but
 a little slow).  The pages that have activities (Games, Fashion Fun, etc)
 don't load any of the detail.  They show that something should be there but
 it can't read it.  The links are .asp's.  I tried using netscape in linux
 (v 4.72) and message complaining that it didn't know how to handle an octet
 text stream (seems like a MIME issue).


Did you install the Shockwave Flash plugin for Linux?

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/flash/english/linux/5.0r47/flash_linux.tar.gz

Almost sounds like it downloaded the shockwave data, but then couldn't find a 
'viewer' for that MIME type.  File/MIME association for this MIME type may be 
missing or bad.

--
2. Save the Installer to your desktop and wait for the file to 
downloadcompletely.

3. Unpackage the file.

4. Copy the Macromedia Flash Player (libflashplayer.so) into the Netscape 
plug-in directory.
 cp $HOME/flash_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/netscape/plugins

5. Copy the Macromedia Flash Player Java class file (ShockwaveFlash.class) 
into the Netscape plug-in directory. cp 
$HOME/flash_linux/ShockwaveFlash.class /usr/lib/netscape/plugins

6. Launch Netscape.
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Re: Barbie.com and KDE 2.1.2

2001-10-03 Thread Matt . Carpenter


Mine was installed by default...  So it's got to be in an RPM (not that I
could tell you which one off the top of my head).


   
 
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On Wednesday 03 October 2001 07:54 am, you wrote:
 On 10/2/2001 Mark wrote:
SNIP

Did you install the Shockwave Flash plugin for Linux?

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/flash/english/linux/5.0r47/flash_linux.tar.gz


Almost sounds like it downloaded the shockwave data, but then couldn't find
a
'viewer' for that MIME type.  File/MIME association for this MIME type may
be
missing or bad.

--
2. Save the Installer to your desktop and wait for the file to
downloadcompletely.

3. Unpackage the file.

4. Copy the Macromedia Flash Player (libflashplayer.so) into the Netscape
plug-in directory.
 cp $HOME/flash_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/netscape/plugins

5. Copy the Macromedia Flash Player Java class file (ShockwaveFlash.class)
into the Netscape plug-in directory. cp
$HOME/flash_linux/ShockwaveFlash.class /usr/lib/netscape/plugins

6. Launch Netscape.
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Libranet

2001-10-03 Thread Leon A. Goldstein

I am attaching a Libranet newsletter I just received.
It seems to be consistent with the previously reported rumour of
SuSE (USA) in financial straits.

NEXT LIBRANET VERSION STILL ON THE WAY

Owing to a sharp downturn in CD sales we are now forced to
concentrate on other projects to generate cash flow.
We have by no means dropped Libranet, it's just that we have
scaled down the number of people/hours available to it.
So, we'll have a new release as soon as it's ready and we are
doing our best to make it an even better system than before.
Thanks for being patient.

-
LINUX DESKTOP IN A SLUMP?

We hear that the Linux world is in the doldrums, or maybe in a
holding pattern.  We notice less of those that are new to Linux
purchasing Libranet.  The bulk of the purchases seem to come from
existing Linux users switching to Libranet.
The release of the 2.4 kernel, KDE 2 and XFree86 4 was expected
to help bring about a substantial exodus from Microsoft, but this
has yet to happen.  We think the number of GNU/Linux users will
continue to increase, although slowly. We hope that the world
will realize that there is a better alternative to Microsoft.
-- 
Leon A. Goldstein

Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux
System 5151

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Re: wu-ftpd and syslog

2001-10-03 Thread Douglas J. Hunley

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 08:18, Kurt Wall babbled:
 Chang wrote:
 % I don't quite understand the insturctions in http://linux.nf regarding
 % the use /usr/info/zoneinfo to make ftpd to log the right time in syslog.
 % What should I do?
 %
 % ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Hongkong /home/ftp/etc/localtime ?

 ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Hongkong /etc/localtime

um.. Kurt, he's running ftp in a chroot environment... so your command 
wouldn't work...

(I could comment about your sig on this one, but I'll let it slide.. we've 
all done this before and I like you)

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Re: ot website for photos

2001-10-03 Thread Auyeung at Technet

Got this on access :-(

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /photos/ on this server.





Apache/1.3.12 Server at www.eastwind.com.au Port 80


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Subject: ot website for photos


 I will leave the modem online tonight so as those who wish can d/l files.
 I still have work todo as i see there are broken links to pics. I should
have
 known better but I was in a hurry and typed in names that the browser
would
 not see:: orchid 2 instaed of orchid_2 (spaces), so those need fixing.

 www.eastwind.com.au/photos did not get there as I had problems with the
 remote drive, now fixed, but still need to put up files. However not with
the
 names problems, have to fix those first so i guess Saturday or so will be.
 More haste less speed.
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INN help!

2001-10-03 Thread Douglas J. Hunley

Can anyone show me what needs to go into /path/to/inn/conf/newsfeeds file for 
a news host that doesn't accept newsfeeds from any other host and doesn't 
send out feeds to any other host? I'm slightly confused on this one. thanks
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more INN help

2001-10-03 Thread Douglas J. Hunley

what the fsck do I put in readers.conf to allow anyone anywhere to connect to 
the news server with their newsreader, peruse the groups, and post? thanks
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Re: more INN help

2001-10-03 Thread Douglas J. Hunley

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 14:50, Douglas J. Hunley babbled:
 what the fsck do I put in readers.conf to allow anyone anywhere to connect
 to the news server with their newsreader, peruse the groups, and post?
 thanks

I think this will do it. Yes?

auth users {
hosts: 8, !localhost, !127.0.0.1, !stdin
default: news_user
}

access users {
users: news_user
newsgroups: *
access: RP
}
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Re: ot website for photos

2001-10-03 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 03:17, you whispered in my pinkie:
 Got this on access :-(

 Forbidden
 You don't have permission to access /photos/ on this server.

Which address ?

eastwind is not up as I had problems but my WS was and others accessed it ok.

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Re: kernel bonk

2001-10-03 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 04:15 am,Joel Hammer wrote:
 I am rusty on lilo.conf, but here is what works in my box.

 image = /vmlinuz-NoModules
 label  = linux
 root   = /dev/hda1
 read-only
 vga = ask
 append = debug=2 noapic nosmp
 On my linux box, device 8:04 is sda4. (ls -al /dev). I don't know
 nuthin' about scsi.

My root directory is on my scsi sda4, and my lilo.conf looks like 
yours except for the root = /dev/sda4.  At least I now know what the 
804 means.  Thanks.
So now I just need to know why the filesystem won't mount.  I'm not 
sure it's a lilo problem.

 Joel

 On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 02:53:28AM -0700, Tony Alfrey wrote:
  Hi list!
 
  Can someone help me diagnose my kernel bonk?  When I try to boot a
  2.4.4 kernel that I compiled, it seems to go quite a ways into the
  boot-up process before it crashes with the following message:
 
  NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0
  request_module [block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
  VFS: Cannot open root device 804 or 08:04
  Please append a correct root =  boot option


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Re: kernel bonk

2001-10-03 Thread Joel Hammer

http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/ke_eide-scsi.html

Maybe your bios doesn't support booting from the scsi drive?
Joel


On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 05:34:52AM -0700, Tony Alfrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 03 October 2001 04:15 am,Joel Hammer wrote:
  I am rusty on lilo.conf, but here is what works in my box.
 
  image = /vmlinuz-NoModules
  label  = linux
  root   = /dev/hda1
  read-only
  vga = ask
  append = debug=2 noapic nosmp
  On my linux box, device 8:04 is sda4. (ls -al /dev). I don't know
  nuthin' about scsi.
 
 My root directory is on my scsi sda4, and my lilo.conf looks like 
 yours except for the root = /dev/sda4.  At least I now know what the 
 804 means.  Thanks.
 So now I just need to know why the filesystem won't mount.  I'm not 
 sure it's a lilo problem.
 
  Joel
 
  On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 02:53:28AM -0700, Tony Alfrey wrote:
   Hi list!
  
   Can someone help me diagnose my kernel bonk?  When I try to boot a
   2.4.4 kernel that I compiled, it seems to go quite a ways into the
   boot-up process before it crashes with the following message:
  
   NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0
   request_module [block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
   VFS: Cannot open root device 804 or 08:04
   Please append a correct root =  boot option
 
 
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Re: OT New Grandson

2001-10-03 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 06:58 pm, you wrote:
 On October  3, 2001 08:33 am, Tom Wilson wrote:
  Congratulations to you and your family.  A welcomed addition I'm sure.  I
  haven't had a good Cuban in .well, I've never had a Cuban.

 Are we still talking about cigars?

Yes big long nasty smalling Virtual uban cigars g
cheers
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Re: OT photographs online at last

2001-10-03 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 13:06, Kurt Wall wrote:

 There are several jokes of dubious propriety that I steadfastly refuse
 to insert here.  Must...exercise...restraint...

I feel your pain.


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Re: OT New Grandson

2001-10-03 Thread Mike Andrew

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 13:53, burns wrote:

 BTW, I hate to say this, but I think he may be a Windows user. He's holding
 up his three fingers, poised to invoke the Microsoft kernel management
 tool

train 'em young and early.


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Re: OT photographs online at last

2001-10-03 Thread Kurt Wall

Mike Andrew wrote:
% On Wednesday 03 October 2001 13:06, Kurt Wall wrote:
% 
%  There are several jokes of dubious propriety that I steadfastly refuse
%  to insert here.  Must...exercise...restraint...
% 
% I feel your pain.

What, you can't get that KurtWerks hat off, either?

Kurt
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CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread David Aikema

It's becoming more and more apparently that in the modern world a CD-RW is 
almost essential.  But of course there's not much money in my budget to pick 
one up so I'm looking at the low end of the market.

A local retail store's got a LiteOn 16x10x40 cd-rw on sale for $137CDN until 
the weekend which is $2 more than my normal supplier of parts offers for an 
OEM 12x10x32 drive by the same company.

I'm wondering if this model would be a good bet it only has a 2 meg data 
buffer but does have burn-proof technology by Samsung.  (Is burn-proof 
supported by cdrecord and any other linux software? ...does it even require 
software support?)

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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread Net Llama

You, sir, need to take a trip to pricewatch.com, immediately.  Do not
purchase that LiteOn CD burner, not only becuase LiteOn products are
very poor quality, but because there are far better values available.  

Variations on this theme have come up many times before, so i'll give
you the short version. Yamaha  Plextor make very good quality CD
burners.  All others are of questionable quality, and will either:
1) not work at all under Linux
2) work very poorly, generating alot of coasters
3) fail early in their lifespans

Right now i see a US$76 Yamaha CRW8824E 8x8x24 INTERNAL IDE CD-RW 8824E
at pricewatch.  Even with the Canadian exchange rate, its still cheaper
than the one below.

--- David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's becoming more and more apparently that in the modern world a
 CD-RW is 
 almost essential.  But of course there's not much money in my budget
 to pick 
 one up so I'm looking at the low end of the market.
 
 A local retail store's got a LiteOn 16x10x40 cd-rw on sale for $137CDN
 until 
 the weekend which is $2 more than my normal supplier of parts offers
 for an 
 OEM 12x10x32 drive by the same company.
 
 I'm wondering if this model would be a good bet it only has a 2
 meg data 
 buffer but does have burn-proof technology by Samsung.  (Is burn-proof
 
 supported by cdrecord and any other linux software? ...does it even
 require 
 software support?)



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Re: wu-ftpd and syslog

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

chroot again... the link must be named localtime, right?
then the how to for ftp written by Irwing must be corrected.
editor... where are you?

Kurt Wall wrote:

Douglas J. Hunley wrote:
% On Wednesday 03 October 2001 08:18, Kurt Wall babbled:
%  Chang wrote:
%  % I don't quite understand the insturctions in http://linux.nf regarding
%  % the use /usr/info/zoneinfo to make ftpd to log the right time in syslog.
%  % What should I do?
%  %
%  % ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Hongkong /home/ftp/etc/localtime ?
% 
%  ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Hongkong /etc/localtime
% 
% um.. Kurt, he's running ftp in a chroot environment... so your command 
% wouldn't work...

Quite. I didn't think of that. In which case, I would either create
the symlink using /home/ftp/etc/localtime or, better, copy the file to
into the chrooted directory. You have to use statically linked




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Re: wu-ftpd and syslog

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

wait.. did you offend me? dam.. I misssed it!
I was not the one who complained. @_@



% (I could comment about your sig on this one, but I'll let it slide.. we've 
% all done this before and I like you)

The sig was random. I delete the blatantly offensive ones. Chang, no
offense intended.

Kurt




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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

yes, and it has to be priced right to become an essential item.
LiteOn is a well-received item here in Shamshiopo, Hongkong.
It's cheap and  works fine.  I planned on taking a 24w model this Xmas
to replace my 2-year-old Panasonic 4w CDR.

But it's definitely not the best (which means expansive brands 
likeYamaha and Plextor).

It's becoming more and more apparently that in the modern world a CD-RW is 
almost essential.  But of course there's not much money in my budget to pick 
one up so I'm looking at the low end of the market.

A local retail store's got a LiteOn 16x10x40 cd-rw on sale for $137CDN until 
the weekend which is $2 more than my normal supplier of parts offers for an 
OEM 12x10x32 drive by the same company.




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Re: ot website for photos

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

if you guys are interseted into photoes, check these newsgroups out:

news://news.hkpcug.org/hkpcug.digital-photography
news://news.hkpcug.org/hkpcug.slr-photography

they post photoes and you can ignore those chinese codes.
occassionally, there could be some engilsh-only discussion.

Keith Antoine wrote:

I will leave the modem online tonight so as those who wish can d/l files.
I still have work todo as i see there are broken links to pics. I should have 
known better but I was in a hurry and typed in names that the browser would 
not see:: orchid 2 instaed of orchid_2 (spaces), so those need fixing.

www.eastwind.com.au/photos did not get there as I had problems with the 
remote drive, now fixed, but still need to put up files. However not with the 
names problems, have to fix those first so i guess Saturday or so will be.
More haste less speed.




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Re: OT New Grandson

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

better. NO GUI!  :)


BTW, I hate to say this, but I think he may be a Windows user. He's holding
up his three fingers, poised to invoke the Microsoft kernel management
tool

train 'em young and early.





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Re: ot website for photos

2001-10-03 Thread Auyeung at Technet Systems Consultant Ltd



http://www.eastwind.com.au/photos

  - Original Message - 
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  Antoine 
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  : Re: ot website for 
photos
  On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 03:17, you whispered in my pinkie: 
  Got this on access :-( Forbidden You don't have 
  permission to access /photos/ on this server.Which address 
  ?eastwind is not up as I had problems but my WS was and others 
  accessed it ok.-- 
  -To those 
  who have been in harms way, to those that have made thesacrifice in 
  humanities name. At the going down of the sun andin the morning I shall 
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Re: OT New Grandson

2001-10-03 Thread Auyeung at Technet Systems Consultant Ltd



Rick,

Congrats!

Auyeung

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  : OT New Grandson
  Lisyt wll I have been hard at work here slaving 
  over this  that, BUT Sunday afternoon, it all came to a head. My 
  second grandson was born, he is also my third grandchild. We are a 
  strutten like a Peacock here. If you would like to see a couple 0of 
  pictures of this little guy, soon to be a Linux user as his dad is, go to 
  this url:http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/s/sandoval/Cheers 
  and Virtual Cigars for all, heck make them Virtual Cuban Cigars, 
  Enjoy-- Rick SivernellDallas, Texas 75287972 
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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread David Aikema

On October 3, 2001 07:09 pm, Net Llama wrote:
 You, sir, need to take a trip to pricewatch.com, immediately.  Do not
 purchase that LiteOn CD burner, not only becuase LiteOn products are
 very poor quality, but because there are far better values available.

 Variations on this theme have come up many times before, so i'll give
 you the short version. Yamaha  Plextor make very good quality CD
 burners.  All others are of questionable quality, and will either:
 1) not work at all under Linux
 2) work very poorly, generating alot of coasters
 3) fail early in their lifespans

The LiteOn model shows up as working under linux (in the linux-mandrake 
hardware database as working).  The cd-record homepage also suggests that all 
cd-writers produced in 1999 or earlier are supported.  Its just the 
burn-proof that I'm worried about.

 Right now i see a US$76 Yamaha CRW8824E 8x8x24 INTERNAL IDE CD-RW 8824E
 at pricewatch.  Even with the Canadian exchange rate, its still cheaper
 than the one below.

Cheaper when you figure in the exchange rate, yes but if I've got my 
calculations right the thieves at the border will drive the price of that 
drive far over the cost of the LiteOn

On October 3, 2001 07:36 pm, Chang wrote:
 yes, and it has to be priced right to become an essential item.
 LiteOn is a well-received item here in Shamshiopo, Hongkong.
 It's cheap and  works fine.  I planned on taking a 24w model this Xmas
 to replace my 2-year-old Panasonic 4w CDR.

 But it's definitely not the best (which means expansive brands
 likeYamaha and Plextor).

Seems to be a slight difference of opinion here.

BTW I found the following note regarding Lite-On drives (following links 
from the cdrecord homepage) at http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq05.html#S5-1-43:
Some of the drives appear to be based on Plextor units. 

The reviews I've found of the drive have seemed generally positive, although 
there may be some issues in the quality of any DAE done... but then again the 
purpose of this drive would mainly be to write not read I've got a cd-rom 
to do the other fun stuff.

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Re: kernel bonk

2001-10-03 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 01:51 pm,Joel Hammer wrote:
 http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/ke_eide-scsi.html

 Maybe your bios doesn't support booting from the scsi drive?
 Joel

Normally it boots fine from the scsi drive on the 2.4.0 kernel.  I've 
been studying the SCSI HOW-TO and I have to make sure that all of the 
necessary SCSI kernel parts get added.  The 2.4.0 kernel starts 
(Caldera) with loadable SCSI modules as part of an initrd=blahblah.tar 
line in lilo.conf that I did not understand at first.  So I'll either 
have to do this or hopefully have enough space to put the SCSI stuff 
specific to my box in the kernel.
But I will read about the bios stuff; I saw it mentioned in the HOW-TO.

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Re: kernel bonk

2001-10-03 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 04:16 pm,Net Llama wrote:
 --- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tony Alfrey wrote:
  %
  % My root directory is on my scsi sda4, and my lilo.conf looks like
  % yours except for the root = /dev/sda4.  At least I now know what
  the
 
  % 804 means.  Thanks.
  % So now I just need to know why the filesystem won't mount.  I'm
  not % sure it's a lilo problem.
 
  If root is on a SCSI device and SCSI support is not built into the
  kernel, you need an initrd disk that contains the modules.
 
  %   VFS: Cannot open root device 804 or 08:04
  %   Please append a correct root =  boot option
 
  Looks like you need initrd.

 Its prolly easier to just compile the support into the kernel.
 Performance will be better.

I'm going to try that first (I think).  The SCSI HOW-TO says I need to 
be selective and not include every conceivable low-level driver or the 
kernel exceeds the capacity of the boot loader.  David Bandel told me 
how to get my present kernel to tell me what modules are loaded for 
SCSI and then build these into the kernel.
Watch for smoke from across the bay.


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Re: CD-RWs

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

I am still burning my cd with windows 98.  Cannot comment on the
 linux support for LiteOn. It's cheap, reliable and fast. That' s all I 
care.
for USD76, you possibly can buy a 16w Liteon in Hongkong.! 8w ???
hmm... :)


Variations on this theme have come up many times before, so i'll give
you the short version. Yamaha  Plextor make very good quality CD
burners.  All others are of questionable quality, and will either:
1) not work at all under Linux
2) work very poorly, generating alot of coasters
3) fail early in their lifespans

Right now i see a US$76 Yamaha CRW8824E 8x8x24 INTERNAL IDE CD-RW 8824E
at pricewatch.  Even with the Canadian exchange rate, its still cheaper
than the one below.




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redhat and daemon control

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

I think I found it. It's likely to be xinetd.conf...


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Re: kernel bonk

2001-10-03 Thread Kurt Wall

Tony Alfrey wrote:
% On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:46 pm,Kurt Wall wrote:
% 
%  Looks like you need initrd.
% 
%  Kurt
% 
% Yes, thank you!  I'm beginning to read the SCSI-HOW-TO and it talks 
% about this.  I have an initrd in the lilo.conf that comes with the 
% 2.4.0 (Caldera LTP) installation.  Now, a very stupid question:  if I 
% decide not to build all the SCSI stuff into the kernel, since the 
% hardware hasn't changed, is there any possibility that I can use the 
% same archive ( initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.0.gz ) that I use for the 
% 2.4.0 kernel??  I suppose that the worst that can happen is that it 
% won't boot.

It couldn't hurt to try, but I wouldn't be surprised if it blows up,
won't boot, or similar. Find the mkinitrd.sh script.

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Re: ot website for photos

2001-10-03 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:16, you whispered in my pinkie:
 http://www.eastwind.com.au/photos

Try this one mate:
http://203.45.132.17/index.htm

Eastwind will be up in about another day or so. That will be permenant while 
this URL is temporary.

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Re: kernel bonk fixed!

2001-10-03 Thread Tony Alfrey

I don't believe it, my 2.4.4 kernel boots and KDE appears.
I was missing one low-level scsi driver in the build.
Thanks very much to Mike, David, Joel, Collins, Lonni, Kurt, 
Klaus-Peter, Douglas and of course, the Skippy-dude!!
And I guess I should thank Les Bell too, for such a nice kernel build 
script and all the cool SxS editors.
The chance that I could have done this without help was zero.
Oh, and I too vote for compiling the kernel NOT in /usr/src  ;- )

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Re: more INN help

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

how could I control the newsgroup available in my newserver?
I am trying to setup innd as well...




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Re: wu-ftpd and syslog

2001-10-03 Thread Chang

How could I correct it? That section (ftp and time) is not clear though 
not wrong.
The paragraphy suggested using ln which should better be a cp (as both 
of you argued).
I followed you 2's suggestion, the log is ok now.


This editor is busy earning a living. Can't speak for the others. ;-)
It's been quite some time since I last looked at the SxS for this.




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