Re: JVM

2001-10-25 Thread burns

On October 23, 2001 10:12 pm, Tom Wilson wrote:
 Hi gang,

 I tried adding a few of these to my $PATH to no avail.   Anyone know
 which, if any, of the above paths is the correct one for the
 installation to find the jvm?

check out man strace

If nothing else, this will show you where the make file is looking for jvm to 
be and can't find it.  You should then be able to make the necessary 
adjustments.
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Re: suse 7.2 7.3

2001-10-25 Thread burns

On October 24, 2001 04:14 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:

 No as I installed it on 3 other machines also I tried both the cd and dvd
 neither worked.

Is this by chance the 7.3 upgrade as opposed to a full install? (Perhaps I 
missed that). If so, according to the SuSE list there are known issues with 
it (there have been a number of threads discussing this).

Apparently, like Caldera, SuSE's upgrade install programs are invariably a 
challenge. Most of the seasoned SuSE users recommend getting the full 
version, backing up your data, then doing a full fresh install from scratch. 

Sad, really, that we have come so far over the past few years in Linux - we 
can run it as superclusters and in mainframes - but we can't seem to get 
consistently fool-proof OS upgrades.
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Re: OT (pups)

2001-10-25 Thread Randy Donohoe


 I've got a Dobie right now.  Darn fine dog and I'd love another.
 I've also got a house of kids - what's the temperament of the parents
 around kids?

 Mark
Storm, the mother, was raised alongside my 7 year-old daughters. She's 
one of the best natured dogs of any breed I've ever met. The father is 
aloof at first, but very friendly after he's met you. He was raised 
with 4 children.
Thanks,
Randy Donohoe
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mozilla 0.9.5 tabbed windows

2001-10-25 Thread Collins Richey

gentoo finally came acorss with a 0.9.5 ebuild.  

I love the tabbed window mode - that's the way a browser should work!

Does anyone know if there is a way to invoke the equivalent of ctl-t
when clicking on an icon from an email program (eg sylpheed)?

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RE: OT (pups)

2001-10-25 Thread Tom Wilson

Randy Donohoe wrote:
 Anybody on the list within the US need a good Doberman pup? I 
 wouldn't 
 normally put something like this on a Linux list, but my red 
 female had 
 twelve pups. I'll never find good homes for that many without 
 help. 110 
 pound father and 90 pound mother, should be good-sized. Four reds and 
 three Isabellas left. Smart German dogs, might be good Linux helpers 
 for you SuSE folks.
 Thanks (and I apologize for the commercial slant),
 Randy Donohoe


Any charge for these fine puppies?  And where are you located in the U.S.?

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backup routines/etc.

2001-10-25 Thread Schmeits, Roger

Does anyone have preference for DAT drives, backup software, 
hardware config.?  

I have about 8 servers with several drives that I backup nightly which about
50gig per night.
Currently we are using ArcServe 6.6 on NT 4.0 with 12/24 dat drives.  It
works ok but I have to 
baby-sit it about once every three months.  Is there anything in the Linux
world that is comparable??
Platforms covers Microsoft NT 4.0, win2k, Exchange 5.5., MS SQL2000, Linux
Redhat 7.1, and a variety of Sybase DB's.
In light of Sept.11 our org. is re-evaluating our backup routine and what it
would that you recover if necessary.

Roger
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Re: CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread Susan Macchia

I wish I could upgrade my kernel (don't have the time to roll my own kernel -
wish I did).  I can't because the pptp tunneling into my place of work only
works on RH 7.0, not 7.1... And I work from home regularly 1-2x per week.  And
at night, and on weekends when necessary.  I don't want to have to continually
reboot from one os to another each time I need to work, so...

OT
In February, my group is being transferred to Intel, at which point I can start
to use another distro, since the telecommuting connectivity is a dial-up.  I
plan on using SUSE 7.3 (I have an order pending).
/OT

In any event, when I have my cd-rom on /dev/sr0 and my cd-rw on /dev/sr1, the
following occurs when I mount:

$ mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting
read-only
   
cool..., but now when:
   
$ mount /dev/cdrw /mnt/cdrw
mount: block device /dev/cdrw is write-protected, mounting
read-only
mount: /dev/cdrw already mounted or /mnt/cdrw busy   
  
huh?

And, say I dismount /dev/cdrom and:
$ mount /dev/cdrw /mnt/cdrw
mount: block device /dev/cdrw is write-protected, mounting
read-only

 And when I look at /mnt/cdrw, the cd-rom on /dev/sr0 spins, and the data
is what is in that drive!!!  This is just too wierd.  It seems I can't use the
cdrw as a 2nd cdrom...


 That could very well be the problem.  Build your own kernel, and then at
 least, you know what you're working with.  Plus, you are using RH-7.0,
 which is an abomination in of itself.  At least upgrade to 7.1 so that
 everything you compile isn't fundamentally broken. 

 --- Susan Macchia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, maybe the difference is kernel versions.  As stated previously,
  I am
  runing RH 7.0 (kernel version  2.2.16-22).  It looks like all or
  nothing for me
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OTRe: CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread Susan Macchia

[snip]
  ---
  lsmod shows:
 
  Module  Size  Used by
  parport_probe   3428   0 (autoclean)
  parport_pc  7464   1 (autoclean)
  lp  5416   0 (autoclean)
  parport 7312   1 (autoclean) [parport_probe parport_pc
  lp]
  vfat9404   0 (autoclean) (unused)
  fat30688   0 (autoclean) [vfat]
  Mvnetd  9168   1
  Mvnet  52520   0 [Mvnetd]
  Mvnetint   11252   0 [Mvnet]
  Mvw 4344   0
  Mvmouse  604   0
  Mvkbd752   0
  Mvgic   3332   0 (unused)
  Mvdsp804   0
  Mserial 6412   0
  Mmpip   7040   0
  Mmerge128952   0 [Mvnetd Mvnet Mvnetint Mvw Mvmouse
  Mvkbd Mvgic
  Mvdsp Mserial Mmpip]
  autofs  9124   1 (autoclean)
  lockd  31176   1 (autoclean)
  sunrpc 52964   1 (autoclean) [lockd]
  agpgart18600   0 (unused)
  ide-scsi7336   0
  sg 15704   0
  snd-card-ymfpci 4080   0
  snd-ymfpci 34172   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
  snd-pcm29464   0 [snd-ymfpci]
  snd-ac97-codec 23616   0 [snd-ymfpci]
  snd-mixer  23356   0 [snd-ymfpci snd-ac97-codec]
  snd-opl34264   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
  snd-timer   8096   0 [snd-pcm snd-opl3]
  snd-hwdep   2956   0 [snd-opl3]
  snd-mpu401-uart 2296   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
  snd-rawmidi 9432   0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
  snd-seq-device  3652   0 [snd-rawmidi]
  snd35820   1 [snd-card-ymfpci snd-ymfpci snd-pcm
  snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-opl3 snd-timer snd-hwdep snd-mpu401-uart
  snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
  soundcore   2596   0 [snd]
  usb-uhci   19052   0 (unused)
  usbcore42088   1 [usb-uhci]
  3c90x  22200   1 

 Holy cow!  That's a lot of modules.  You're using all of them, right? 
[snip]

The only ones I am unsure about are the Mv* and Mmerge modules.  I never did
anything myself to cause these to load

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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 tabbed windows

2001-10-25 Thread Tim Wunder

Tim Wunder wrote:

 Previously, Collins Richey chose to write:
 
gentoo finally came acorss with a 0.9.5 ebuild.

I love the tabbed window mode - that's the way a browser should work!

Does anyone know if there is a way to invoke the equivalent of ctl-t
when clicking on an icon from an email program (eg sylpheed)?

 
 Nope. Moz can't do it, and will likely never be able to do it.
 There's something called Multizilla that might be able to, haven't checked. 
 Mozilla-proper's tabs functionality was borrowed from multizilla, which is 
 supposed to be much more full featured in tab use.
 Check out http://multizilla.mozdev.org/
 

Follow up: from a news post on netscape.public.mozilla.ui.

Dave Hyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just checked in a slew of tab browsing changes and fixes.  Here's a list:

(1) The tabs now flex and shrink down as you add more tabs in order to
fit within the window.  You should not really have any serious overflow
problems any longer with this solution.
(2) The confusing close box on the far right has been eliminated.
Looking for ideas for a better solution (perhaps an X on the tab only
when it is the active tab).
(3) The autohide pref is now honored, so you can uncheck it in the
preferences dialog to keep the tab strip visible all the time.
(4) You can now drag a URL to a tab and have it load in that tab.
Whether or not the tab comes to the front when you drop is based off the
background loading pref (the same one used when you middle-click a link).
(5) You can now drag a URL to the tab strip and have it open a new tab.
Again, whether or not the new tab is focused is based off the pref.
(6) When you open new blank tabs using CTRL+T, the tab will no longer
waste time animating and changing its text from Loading... to
(Untitled).  Also, when you open a new blank tab the URL bar will be
empty instead of displaying about:blank.



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Apache: Accessing dirs. w/ w/out trailing slashes

2001-10-25 Thread Ian Marchak

This is probably a simple one, but I've missed it thus far.

How does one/what control access to directories with or without a '/'
after them?

For example...on a freshly installed 1.3.22 the manual pages are found
under http://hostname/manual/ and the trailing slash is
necessary...but this isn't always, or hasn't always been the case in
the past.  For example, 'http://hostname' works w/ or w/out the
slash.  It's a niggly thing and really not of huge importance, but I'd
like to understand this.

What declaration/dirctive defines this behavior? 
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Re: CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread Net Llama


--- Susan Macchia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [snip]
   ---
   lsmod shows:
  
   Module  Size  Used by
   parport_probe   3428   0 (autoclean)
   parport_pc  7464   1 (autoclean)
   lp  5416   0 (autoclean)
   parport 7312   1 (autoclean) [parport_probe
 parport_pc
   lp]
   vfat9404   0 (autoclean) (unused)
   fat30688   0 (autoclean) [vfat]
   Mvnetd  9168   1
   Mvnet  52520   0 [Mvnetd]
   Mvnetint   11252   0 [Mvnet]
   Mvw 4344   0
   Mvmouse  604   0
   Mvkbd752   0
   Mvgic   3332   0 (unused)
   Mvdsp804   0
   Mserial 6412   0
   Mmpip   7040   0
   Mmerge128952   0 [Mvnetd Mvnet Mvnetint Mvw
 Mvmouse
   Mvkbd Mvgic
   Mvdsp Mserial Mmpip]
   autofs  9124   1 (autoclean)
   lockd  31176   1 (autoclean)
   sunrpc 52964   1 (autoclean) [lockd]
   agpgart18600   0 (unused)
   ide-scsi7336   0
   sg 15704   0
   snd-card-ymfpci 4080   0
   snd-ymfpci 34172   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
   snd-pcm29464   0 [snd-ymfpci]
   snd-ac97-codec 23616   0 [snd-ymfpci]
   snd-mixer  23356   0 [snd-ymfpci snd-ac97-codec]
   snd-opl34264   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
   snd-timer   8096   0 [snd-pcm snd-opl3]
   snd-hwdep   2956   0 [snd-opl3]
   snd-mpu401-uart 2296   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
   snd-rawmidi 9432   0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
   snd-seq-device  3652   0 [snd-rawmidi]
   snd35820   1 [snd-card-ymfpci snd-ymfpci
 snd-pcm
   snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-opl3 snd-timer snd-hwdep
 snd-mpu401-uart
   snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
   soundcore   2596   0 [snd]
   usb-uhci   19052   0 (unused)
   usbcore42088   1 [usb-uhci]
   3c90x  22200   1 
 
  Holy cow!  That's a lot of modules.  You're using all of them,
 right? 
 [snip]
 
 The only ones I am unsure about are the Mv* and Mmerge modules.  I
 never did
 anything myself to cause these to load

Well, they're sucking down *alot* of memory, and if you're not using all
of them, you should get rid of them.

So, what about my suggestions for mounting CDs?  You didn't comment on
that.


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xawtv

2001-10-25 Thread Keith Antoine

have a small problem in xawtv, seem to remember Mike Andrew also having one 
some time back, but with web camera. It installs fine but cannot get any 
channels to show up, just just background noise and black snowy signal.
I can install kwintv but it also plays up but I can get it going. Would prefer
it if I can get xawtv to give me channel so as I can compare.

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request for YOUR help

2001-10-25 Thread DOUGLAS HUNLEY

Please, if everyone could email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any broken images they might 
stumble across. I'd appreciate the extra eyeballs to help us catch the 'straglers' 
from the recent conversion to PNG. Thanks.

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CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread Susan Macchia

I put this in another message, but you may have missed it.  So please accept my
apology for posting this info again :-)

When I have my cd-rom on /dev/sr0 and my cd-rw on /dev/sr1, the
following occurs when I mount: 

$ mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting
read-only
  
cool..., but now when:
  
$ mount /dev/sr1 /mnt/cdrw
mount: block device /dev/cdrw is write-protected, mounting
read-only
mount: /dev/cdrw already mounted or /mnt/cdrw busy  
 
huh? And, say I dismount /dev/sr0 and:
$ mount /dev/cdrw /mnt/sr1
mount: block device /dev/cdrw is write-protected, mounting
read-only 

 And when I look at /mnt/cdrw, the cd-rom on /dev/sr0 spins, and the data
is what is in that drive!!!  This is just too wierd.  It seems I can't use the
cdrw as a 2nd cdrom...

I haven't tried the same with -t iso9660 and am not sitting at my machine
now.  I'll try later and report back.

--- Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[big snip] 
  The only ones I am unsure about are the Mv* and Mmerge modules.  I
  never did
  anything myself to cause these to load

 Well, they're sucking down *alot* of memory, and if you're not using all
 of them, you should get rid of them. 
 
 So, what about my suggestions for mounting CDs?  You didn't comment on
 that.


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Re: CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread John Hiemenz


Without seeing a full ls report of /dev/sr? and/or /mnt it's hard to say.

Just reading what you wrote sounds like /mnt/cdrw is linked to /mnt/cdrom

One of you satements also lists /dev/cdrw, if that is correct, what is 
/dev/cdrw linked to? /dev/sr0? /dev/sr1?  What are permissions on /dev/sr1?  
What does /etc/fstab have to say about /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1?

Try this?
Unmount all cd devices
rm /mnt/cdrom
rm /mnt/cdrw
mkdir /mnt/cdrom
mkdir /mnt/cdrw
mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
mount /dev/sr1 /mnt/cdrw


On Thursday 25 October 2001 01:32 pm, you wrote:
 I put this in another message, but you may have missed it.  So please
 accept my apology for posting this info again :-)

 When I have my cd-rom on /dev/sr0 and my cd-rw on /dev/sr1, the
 following occurs when I mount:

 $ mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
 mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting
 read-only

 cool..., but now when:

 $ mount /dev/sr1 /mnt/cdrw
 mount: block device /dev/cdrw is write-protected, mounting
 read-only
 mount: /dev/cdrw already mounted or /mnt/cdrw busy

 huh? And, say I dismount /dev/sr0 and:
   $ mount /dev/cdrw /mnt/sr1
 mount: block device /dev/cdrw is write-protected, mounting
 read-only

  And when I look at /mnt/cdrw, the cd-rom on /dev/sr0 spins, and the
 data is what is in that drive!!!  This is just too wierd.  It seems I can't
 use the cdrw as a 2nd cdrom...

 I haven't tried the same with -t iso9660 and am not sitting at my machine
 now.  I'll try later and report back.

 --- Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [big snip]

   The only ones I am unsure about are the Mv* and Mmerge modules.  I
   never did
   anything myself to cause these to load
 
  Well, they're sucking down *alot* of memory, and if you're not using all
  of them, you should get rid of them.
 
  So, what about my suggestions for mounting CDs?  You didn't comment on
  that.

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Re: CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread Net Llama

Please axe the symlinks.  /dev/cd* should be deleted until you get this
straightened out.

--- Susan Macchia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I put this in another message, but you may have missed it.  So please
 accept my
 apology for posting this info again :-)
 
 When I have my cd-rom on /dev/sr0 and my cd-rw on /dev/sr1, the
 following occurs when I mount: 
 
 $ mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
 mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected,
 mounting
 read-only
   
 cool..., but now when:
   
 $ mount /dev/sr1 /mnt/cdrw
 mount: block device /dev/cdrw is write-protected, mounting
 read-only
 mount: /dev/cdrw already mounted or /mnt/cdrw busy  
  
 huh? And, say I dismount /dev/sr0 and:
   $ mount /dev/cdrw /mnt/sr1
 mount: block device /dev/cdrw is write-protected, mounting
 read-only 
 
  And when I look at /mnt/cdrw, the cd-rom on /dev/sr0 spins, and
 the data
 is what is in that drive!!!  This is just too wierd.  It seems I can't
 use the
 cdrw as a 2nd cdrom...
 
 I haven't tried the same with -t iso9660 and am not sitting at my
 machine
 now.  I'll try later and report back.


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OT somewhat

2001-10-25 Thread Rick Sivernell

List

 here is an interesting site: http://lindows.com/
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Re: CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread John Hiemenz


 IIRC, both of these drives are actually IDE and you're doin'
 SCSI-emulation, right? And, you did some mknod's on your own, right?
  From your previous post:
   $ mknod /dev/sr0 b 11 0
 and
   $ mknod /dev/sr1 b 11 0

I never saw this snippet before, but this is obliviously (sic) an error.

Thats a block device, major 11, minor 0 mapped to both /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1

If /dev/sr0 gets mounted, then obviously /dev/sr1 is also mounted, thus 
'busy' if you try to mount /dev/sr1 somewhere whilst /dev/sr0 is mounted.

su root
unmount all cd devices
rm /dev/sr1
mknod /dev/sr1 b 11 1


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Re: OT somewhat

2001-10-25 Thread John Hiemenz

On Thursday 25 October 2001 02:18 pm, you wrote:
 List

  here is an interesting site: http://lindows.com/

linux with wine pre-installed? 
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Fwd: [suse-announce-usa] SuSE Linux 7.3 now shipping!

2001-10-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley

fyi

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: [suse-announce-usa] SuSE Linux 7.3 now shipping!
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Holger Dyroff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear SuSE Linux customers and friends,

We started shipping the brand new SuSE Linux 7.3 yesterday! We should
have all of the pre-orders in the mail by Friday, and it should be in
the retail stores (Best Buy, CompUSA, Fry's, Microcenter and Borders by
the middle of next week.

SuSE Linux 7.3 offers high-end enterprise and standard desktop
users advantages in security, stability and a greatly improved ergonomical
user interface with new image, graphics and audio features.

As security becomes a higher priority among home and office users, SuSE
Linux 7.3 responds by offering the possibility of a Personal Firewall
straight from the installation process. A user-friendly graphical
front-end allows easy firewall configuration. The resulting security makes
it simple to protect your host or network against unauthorized access.

Furthermore, SuSE's crypto file system ensures that
sensitive data is secure even if someone's entire hardware is stolen.

SuSE YOU (YaST Online Update) ensures that the Linux system always stays
up-to-date. Upon request, SuSE YOU connects to the SuSE ftp server and
automatically installs the desired security updates and bug fixes free of
charge.

New improvements for the desktop include KDE 2.2.1, the latest
version of KDE's highly ergonomical user interface.

New print assistant guides the user safely through the protocol jungle of
lpr and cups.

In Linux Kernel 2.4.10 and glibc 2.2.4, SuSE Linux 7.3 provides
state-of-the art Linux technology. Private users will appreciate an
extended range of drivers and improved USB support. The automatic
hardware detection feature has been considerably expanded to include
even more components, i.e. CD writers, Scanners and TV cards, which
enables the setup tool, YaST2, to complete the installation and Internet
connection almost entirely by itself.

Software RAID support
enhances performance and provides reliable protection against data losses.
Linux professionals will be eager to try out the runlevel editor for the
selective activation of server services. For the first time, the scope
includes YaST2 modules for administering NIS servers as well as NIS and
LDAP clients.

For further details, including package descriptions, please have a look at
http://www.suse.com/us/products/suse_linux/i386/index.html

SuSE Linux can be ordered directly from
http://http://www.shop.suse.com/shop.suse.com

SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional (7 CDs, 1 DVD, 5
manuals, 90 days of installation support) is USD $79.95

SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional Update (7CDs, 1 DVD, 1 manual) is USD $49.95

SuSE Linux 7.3 Personal (3 CDs, 3 manuals, 60 days of installation
support) is USD $39.95

Have a lot of fun!

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Re: OT somewhat

2001-10-25 Thread Net Llama


--- John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 25 October 2001 02:18 pm, you wrote:
  List
 
   here is an interesting site: http://lindows.com/
 
 linux with wine pre-installed? 

Actually, I'd call it wine with Linux preinstalled.


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Re: OT somewhat

2001-10-25 Thread Tim Wunder

Net Llama wrote:

 --- John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
On Thursday 25 October 2001 02:18 pm, you wrote:

List

 here is an interesting site: http://lindows.com/

linux with wine pre-installed? 

 
 Actually, I'd call it wine with Linux preinstalled.
 


I tend to agree with
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/013232

Scott Draeker, of Loki Games, is quoted in the article: The reason 
people use Linux is not because it's a great way to run Windows 
software. If you want Windows software then you should be running 
Windows. Our customers use Linux to run Linux software.



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Re: OT (pups)

2001-10-25 Thread Randy Donohoe


 Any charge for these fine puppies?  And where are you located in the
U.S.?

 --Tom Wilson
I've sold five at $350 apiece, but I've got three red males I'll let go
for $275. Storm couldn't take care of all twelve, so we've bottle fed
these since they were a week old. They're smaller than the others now,
but the vet said they would catch up. These three are gonna be are going
to be very friendly dogs, we've spoiled them rotten
Thanks,
Randy Donohoe

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Re: CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread Collins Richey

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 --- Susan Macchia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [snip]
---
lsmod shows:
   
Module  Size  Used by
parport_probe   3428   0 (autoclean)
parport_pc  7464   1 (autoclean)
lp  5416   0 (autoclean)
parport 7312   1 (autoclean) [parport_probe
  parport_pc
lp]
vfat9404   0 (autoclean) (unused)
fat30688   0 (autoclean) [vfat]
Mvnetd  9168   1
Mvnet  52520   0 [Mvnetd]
Mvnetint   11252   0 [Mvnet]
Mvw 4344   0
Mvmouse  604   0
Mvkbd752   0
Mvgic   3332   0 (unused)
Mvdsp804   0
Mserial 6412   0
Mmpip   7040   0
Mmerge128952   0 [Mvnetd Mvnet Mvnetint Mvw
  Mvmouse
Mvkbd Mvgic
Mvdsp Mserial Mmpip]
autofs  9124   1 (autoclean)
lockd  31176   1 (autoclean)
sunrpc 52964   1 (autoclean) [lockd]
agpgart18600   0 (unused)
ide-scsi7336   0
sg 15704   0
snd-card-ymfpci 4080   0
snd-ymfpci 34172   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
snd-pcm29464   0 [snd-ymfpci]
snd-ac97-codec 23616   0 [snd-ymfpci]
snd-mixer  23356   0 [snd-ymfpci snd-ac97-codec]
snd-opl34264   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
snd-timer   8096   0 [snd-pcm snd-opl3]
snd-hwdep   2956   0 [snd-opl3]
snd-mpu401-uart 2296   0 [snd-card-ymfpci]
snd-rawmidi 9432   0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device  3652   0 [snd-rawmidi]
snd35820   1 [snd-card-ymfpci snd-ymfpci
  snd-pcm
snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-opl3 snd-timer snd-hwdep
  snd-mpu401-uart
snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore   2596   0 [snd]
usb-uhci   19052   0 (unused)
usbcore42088   1 [usb-uhci]
3c90x  22200   1 
  
   Holy cow!  That's a lot of modules.  You're using all of them,
  right? 
  [snip]
  
  The only ones I am unsure about are the Mv* and Mmerge modules.  I
  never did
  anything myself to cause these to load
 
 Well, they're sucking down *alot* of memory, and if you're not using
 all
 of them, you should get rid of them.
 
 So, what about my suggestions for mounting CDs?  You didn't comment
 on
 that.
 

I don't know how it is on 2.2.x, but these are the modules I need for
CD-RW support.

Module  Size  Used by
ide-scsi7520   0 
sr_mod 13664   0  (unused)
cdrom  27136   0  [sr_mod]
sg 26752   0  (unused)
scsi_mod   85904   3  [ide-scsi sr_mod sg]


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Re: Fwd: [suse-announce-usa] SuSE Linux 7.3 now shipping!

2001-10-25 Thread Collins Richey

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:59:41 -0400 Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 fyi
 
 --  Forwarded Message  --
 
 Subject: [suse-announce-usa] SuSE Linux 7.3 now shipping!
 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Holger Dyroff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dear SuSE Linux customers and friends,
 
 We started shipping the brand new SuSE Linux 7.3 yesterday! We
 should
 have all of the pre-orders in the mail by Friday, and it should be
 in
 the retail stores (Best Buy, CompUSA, Fry's, Microcenter and Borders
 by
 the middle of next week.
 
 SuSE Linux 7.3 offers high-end enterprise and standard desktop
 users advantages in security, stability and a greatly improved
 ergonomical
 user interface with new image, graphics and audio features.
 
 As security becomes a higher priority among home and office users,
 SuSE
 Linux 7.3 responds by offering the possibility of a Personal
 Firewall
 straight from the installation process. A user-friendly graphical
 front-end allows easy firewall configuration. The resulting security
 makes
 it simple to protect your host or network against unauthorized
 access.
 
 Furthermore, SuSE's crypto file system ensures that
 sensitive data is secure even if someone's entire hardware is
 stolen.
 
 SuSE YOU (YaST Online Update) ensures that the Linux system always
 stays
 up-to-date. Upon request, SuSE YOU connects to the SuSE ftp server
 and
 automatically installs the desired security updates and bug fixes
 free of
 charge.
 
 New improvements for the desktop include KDE 2.2.1, the latest
 version of KDE's highly ergonomical user interface.
 
 New print assistant guides the user safely through the protocol
 jungle of
 lpr and cups.
 
 In Linux Kernel 2.4.10 and glibc 2.2.4, SuSE Linux 7.3 provides
 state-of-the art Linux technology. Private users will appreciate an
 extended range of drivers and improved USB support. The automatic
 hardware detection feature has been considerably expanded to include
 even more components, i.e. CD writers, Scanners and TV cards, which
 enables the setup tool, YaST2, to complete the installation and
 Internet
 connection almost entirely by itself.
 
 Software RAID support
 enhances performance and provides reliable protection against data
 losses.
 Linux professionals will be eager to try out the runlevel editor for
 the
 selective activation of server services. For the first time, the
 scope
 includes YaST2 modules for administering NIS servers as well as NIS
 and
 LDAP clients.
 
 For further details, including package descriptions, please have a
 look at
 http://www.suse.com/us/products/suse_linux/i386/index.html
 
 SuSE Linux can be ordered directly from
 http://http://www.shop.suse.com/shop.suse.com
 
 SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional (7 CDs, 1 DVD, 5
 manuals, 90 days of installation support) is USD $79.95
 
 SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional Update (7CDs, 1 DVD, 1 manual) is USD
 $49.95
 
 SuSE Linux 7.3 Personal (3 CDs, 3 manuals, 60 days of installation
 support) is USD $39.95
 
 Have a lot of fun!
 
 Holger Dyroff
 Director of Sales, North America

Gee, they've almost caught up with what I've been enjoying on gentoo
for months now. grin

Just kidding, SuSE, Mandrake, etc. have superb installation packages
and have much else to recommend themselves.

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Re: Apache: Accessing dirs. w/ w/out trailing slashes

2001-10-25 Thread Bill Day

Right, now depending on their client... if they forget to type trailing / 
some add it(good ol konqy) I.E. doesnot, you simple receive a nicepage cannot 
be displayed until you add the trailing /

I do however remeber somewhere in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf(i think thats 
right) that there was mention of requiring a trailing / to do the internal 
redirects...  may have been changed removed between mine,apache 1.3.11 stock 
eD2.4 to the 1.3.22 that you are running.

HTH,

On Thursday 25 October 2001 05:54, you were heard blurting out:
  dont know why but a trailing slash is required for any url that does
 internal redirects like localhost and users dirs.

 On Thursday 25 October 2001 14:41, Ian Marchak wrote:
  This is probably a simple one, but I've missed it thus far.
 
  How does one/what control access to directories with or without a '/'
  after them?
 
  For example...on a freshly installed 1.3.22 the manual pages are found
  under http://hostname/manual/ and the trailing slash is
  necessary...but this isn't always, or hasn't always been the case in
  the past.  For example, 'http://hostname' works w/ or w/out the
  slash.  It's a niggly thing and really not of huge importance, but I'd
  like to understand this.
 
  What declaration/dirctive defines this behavior?

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linux withdrawal ahead ot

2001-10-25 Thread Collins Richey

Well I'm off air until next Wenesday.  My 40th high school reunion in
Texarkana.

Unlike Kurt's traveling, there's no woman involved. grin

Although my daughter did say: Dad, are you sure there's not an old
girl friend waiting for you?

Looks like I'll be back before the snow flies.  I don't own a laptop,
so I'll have to do without my daily linux fix for a while.

Catch up with you next week.
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Re: CD-RW install puzzles

2001-10-25 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Susan Macchia chose to write:
 Bingo !  This was the problem!  Doh...when I removed /dev/sr1 and changed
 the minor number to 1, it worked fine!

 Thanks for everyone's help on this - an interesting learning experience. 
 But I am still curious why I have to have both cdrom/rw emulating scsi. 
 Why wouldn't my hard drives suffer the same problem?  Please forgive my
 sys-admin ignorance.


AFAIK, you don't need SCSI em for either, unless you want to use them with 
the CD-burning software that's available under linux. For whatever reason, 
all the CD-burning software I've run accross requires that the burners be 
SCSI. The CD-ROM, if you want to burn on the fly, needs to be SCSI, too, or 
the software won't see it.

Your hard drives don't suffer the same problem because, well, because they 
don't, that's why... or maybe it's because the OS is what needs to talk to 
your hard drives. The OS understands IDE, so SCSI-em is not required. 
(Although, if you're masochistic enough, you could probly convince the OS to 
use SCSI-em to talk to your HDDs...)

Regards, 
Tim


   IIRC, both of these drives are actually IDE and you're doin'
   SCSI-emulation, right? And, you did some mknod's on your own, right?
From your previous post:
 $ mknod /dev/sr0 b 11 0
   and
 $ mknod /dev/sr1 b 11 0
 
  I never saw this snippet before, but this is obliviously (sic) an error.
  Thats a block device, major 11, minor 0 mapped to both /dev/sr0 and
  /dev/sr1 If /dev/sr0 gets mounted, then obviously /dev/sr1 is also
  mounted, thus 'busy' if you try to mount /dev/sr1 somewhere whilst
  /dev/sr0 is mounted.
 
  su root
  unmount all cd devices
  rm /dev/sr1
  mknod /dev/sr1 b 11 1

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Re: Apache: Accessing dirs. w/ w/out trailing slashes

2001-10-25 Thread Ian Marchak

Bill Day wrote:
 
 Right, now depending on their client... if they forget to type trailing /
 some add it(good ol konqy) I.E. doesnot, you simple receive a nicepage cannot
 be displayed until you add the trailing /
 
 I do however remeber somewhere in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf(i think thats
 right) that there was mention of requiring a trailing / to do the internal
 redirects...  may have been changed removed between mine,apache 1.3.11 stock
 eD2.4 to the 1.3.22 that you are running.

Give this man a cigar! (I think) I was mucking about from work, and was
testing from IE on my work machine.  The behavior you mentioned is
exactly true...no slash needed in NS, but in IE yes.
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Re: backup routines/etc.

2001-10-25 Thread Keith Morse

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Schmeits, Roger wrote:

 Does anyone have preference for DAT drives, backup software, 
 hardware config.?  
 
 I have about 8 servers with several drives that I backup nightly which about
 50gig per night.
 Currently we are using ArcServe 6.6 on NT 4.0 with 12/24 dat drives.  It
 works ok but I have to 
 baby-sit it about once every three months.  Is there anything in the Linux
 world that is comparable??
 Platforms covers Microsoft NT 4.0, win2k, Exchange 5.5., MS SQL2000, Linux
 Redhat 7.1, and a variety of Sybase DB's.
 In light of Sept.11 our org. is re-evaluating our backup routine and what it
 would that you recover if necessary.


My opinion is that 50GB is large enough to warrant some type of
tape library and a software frontend that manages it and the tapes used
for backup.  I currently am responsible for managing backups for an
enviroment that is comprised of roughly 100 Sun Microsystems computers of
various flavours and about 8 WINnt hosts thrown in for good measure.  This
is driven by a Sun Enterprise 420R with 4 cpu's and 4GB of ram with a
Quantum/ATL 7100 (4 DLT 700 Drives installed, 7 possible, with 100 tapes
available) using Veritas's Netbackup Datacenter Software.  Serious
overkill for this environment, but Marketing's expectations were bigger
than the public's willingness to participate.  One aspect I particularly
like about Netbackup is that it uses gnu-tar to write the data to tape, so
if your database of backup's gets mucked up you can still recover backups
with standard unix commands.  I know they support all the OS's you listed
above. And I believe they have a server product that works on linux.

Also another one I've been pleasantly with is Arkeia.  With your
experience with ArcServe, my opinion is that you can pick it up rather
quickly.  I've only worked with the downloadable evaluation version.  The
interface is straight forward but can't get a feel for it's networked
capabilities.


The other route is the total free one, price but not labor.  Amanda is
one.  Customized scripts using standard unix commands are another.  Check
out www.backupcentral.com



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everybuddy where is the alias?

2001-10-25 Thread Ted Ozolins



In setting up everybuddy for ICQ  I can see  screen name and password. but 
can not see anywhere for entering an alias. 
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