Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:38:34 -0500
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The error I got from some of the failures was invalid byte code.
| 
| Hmmm  I sez to myself.  Could MS be planting a bogus bit of code in their 
| java created by Front Page to 'kill' all other browsers?  Naw, they wouldn't 
| do that, would they??
| 
| Has anyone else seen a problem  like this?

Wouldn't suprise me. Still, a library IS publically funded. Any local Linux
user groups should protest. Claim that the library is prejudiced against
a minority and as a result making it difficult for their children to obtain
acces to publically funded services. You know the rant.

In fact, they probably never even considered non-Explorer in their system
setup.

BTW, did the Windows Netscape work?

-- 
=
Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OPQ Systems AB   WWW:   http://www.opq.se
Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43  Phone:   Int + 46 8 314223 
115 32 Stockholm  Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657
Sweden   Fax:   Int + 46 8 302602
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-22 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

I was suprised when I installed Caldera (2.4 and 3.1) on a Dell. It has
some Dell monitor. The install used the Plug 'n Pray for the monitor and
identified it correctly. From that it set up the resolution rather OK.
Each time I boot the log tells that I have a P79 (or whatever model
Dell display it is).

On the other hand, I bet it does not do anything useful if I change the
monitor. All this is probably an install time only feature.

Same with the USB mouse.


|  It's entirely different on Win.  Windows doesn't ask me what my dot clock
|  frequency is, doesn't ask me what my monitor horizontal freq is, vert freq
|  and a dozen other technical details that I couldn't ultimately care less
|  about. I just want it to work and Windows can accomplish that even though it
|  doesn't even have a driver for this card.
|  
|  And the thing wouldn't work at VGA resolution, or any other in Linux.

-- 
=
Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OPQ Systems AB   WWW:   http://www.opq.se
Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43  Phone:   Int + 46 8 314223 
115 32 Stockholm  Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657
Sweden   Fax:   Int + 46 8 302602
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Getting a Linux screen dump

2002-01-22 Thread Roger Oberholtzer


If your print queue accepts PostScript (based on info from 'man convert'),
this will print it on an A4 page:

xwd | convert -page A4+0+0 - out.ps
lp out.ps

Options to convert to eliminate the output name as surely possible.

(Not tested here...)

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:02:52 -0800
Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| That works perfectly, but only solves the problem of getting the
| dump into a recognizable format; what methods are there for
| composing or just printing such a thing, in color?

-- 
=
Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OPQ Systems AB   WWW:   http://www.opq.se
Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43  Phone:   Int + 46 8 314223 
115 32 Stockholm  Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657
Sweden   Fax:   Int + 46 8 302602
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: IHOP OT

2002-01-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Tom Wilson managed to emit:
 Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy.  If I don't get there 
 sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see the 
 Brickyard 400 in August.   
 
 Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays.  :-)

Alas, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I'll explain in another post.

Kurt
-- 
You can do very well in speculation where land or anything to do with dirt
is concerned.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: IHOP OT

2002-01-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
 Tom Wilson babbled on about:
  Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy.  If I don't get
  there sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see
  the Brickyard 400 in August.
 
  Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays.  :-)
 
 not to spill the beans, but this ain't true anymore I'll leave it to Kurt 
 to say more, but his Hoosier days are short-lived

Indeed. I'll explain in a separate post, for those of you that care.

Kurt
-- 
You will hear good news from one you thought unfriendly to you.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Hi, list,

As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time
OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time
spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red
Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at
the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am
in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their
APIs and other development and programming tools.

For the time being, I'm staying in some temporary housing but will be
fully relocating to Pittsburgh by February 18. I've a new email
addresss, [EMAIL PROTECTED], but [EMAIL PROTECTED] will
continue to function.

If anyone here lives in the Pittsburgh area, contact me off list and
perhaps we can get together once my life settles down a bit.

Blessed be,

Kurt
-- 
Your true value depends entirely on what you are compared with.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 3:13 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:38:34 -0500
 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The error I got from some of the failures was invalid byte code.

 | Hmmm  I sez to myself.  Could MS be planting a bogus bit of code in their
 | java created by Front Page to 'kill' all other browsers?  Naw, they
 | wouldn't do that, would they??
 |
 | Has anyone else seen a problem  like this?

 Wouldn't suprise me. Still, a library IS publically funded. Any local Linux
 user groups should protest. Claim that the library is prejudiced against
 a minority and as a result making it difficult for their children to obtain
 acces to publically funded services. You know the rant.

 In fact, they probably never even considered non-Explorer in their system
 setup.

 BTW, did the Windows Netscape work?

I couldn't find *any* browser other than Internet Exploder that would work.  
And I did complain to the library and got a nice reply that they were in the 
midst of changing their method of generating web pages blah blah blah...  but 
after 3 months, nothing has changed.

If anyone wants to try it, the url and sequence is:

1)  www.npls.org

2)  select  'online catalog'

3) select  Java WEBpac


The error I now get on mozilla after loading the java applet is:  applet not 
initialized.   (it bombed)



-- 
++
+ Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 01/22/02 08:58  +
++
He that would govern others, first should be the master of himself.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: IHOP OT

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:59:51 -0500
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Indeed. I'll explain in a separate post, for those of you that care.
 
 Kurt
=
Please do.  Inquiring minds want to know ;o)
Mike

-- 
The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What
does woman want?'
-- Sigmund Freud

_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:07:17 -0500
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, list,
 
 As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
 position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
 Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time
 OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time
 spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red
 Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at
 the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am
 in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their
 APIs and other development and programming tools.
 
 For the time being, I'm staying in some temporary housing but will be
 fully relocating to Pittsburgh by February 18. I've a new email
 addresss, [EMAIL PROTECTED], but [EMAIL PROTECTED] will
 continue to function.
=
Well, Best of Luck with the new position and the new living quarters.
I hope you're happy with the change.
Mike
-- 
The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What
does woman want?'
-- Sigmund Freud

_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread stayler

Congradulations on the new position there Kurt.  Hope you like the new
location as well.  BTW, you did keep the hat line didn't you?

stayler

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:07:17 -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:

As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time
OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time
spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red
Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at
the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am
in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their
APIs and other development and programming tools.

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Lee

Just tried it. It works o.k.. I'm using Mandrake 8.0 with Netscape 4.77.

Lee




Bruce Marshall wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 22 January 2002 3:13 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
  On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:38:34 -0500
  Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The error I got from some of the failures was invalid byte code.
 
  | Hmmm  I sez to myself.  Could MS be planting a bogus bit of code in their
  | java created by Front Page to 'kill' all other browsers?  Naw, they
  | wouldn't do that, would they??
  |
  | Has anyone else seen a problem  like this?
 
  Wouldn't suprise me. Still, a library IS publically funded. Any local Linux
  user groups should protest. Claim that the library is prejudiced against
  a minority and as a result making it difficult for their children to obtain
  acces to publically funded services. You know the rant.
 
  In fact, they probably never even considered non-Explorer in their system
  setup.
 
  BTW, did the Windows Netscape work?
 
 I couldn't find *any* browser other than Internet Exploder that would work.
 And I did complain to the library and got a nice reply that they were in the
 midst of changing their method of generating web pages blah blah blah...  but
 after 3 months, nothing has changed.
 
 If anyone wants to try it, the url and sequence is:
 
 1)  www.npls.org
 
 2)  select  'online catalog'
 
 3) select  Java WEBpac
 
 The error I now get on mozilla after loading the java applet is:  applet not
 initialized.   (it bombed)
 
 --
 ++
 + Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 01/22/02 08:58  +
 ++
 He that would govern others, first should be the master of himself.
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:07 AM
Subject: New Address, Job OT


 Hi, list,
 
 As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
 position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
 Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. 

[snip]

Kurt:

Congrats, and best of luck in your new venture.

Regards,

Glenn

Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User # 135678 since 1994
Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:07:17 -0500
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, list,
 
 As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
 position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
 Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time
 OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time
 spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red
 Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at
 the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am
 in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their
 APIs and other development and programming tools.
 
 For the time being, I'm staying in some temporary housing but will be
 fully relocating to Pittsburgh by February 18. I've a new email
 addresss, [EMAIL PROTECTED], but [EMAIL PROTECTED] will
 continue to function.
 
 If anyone here lives in the Pittsburgh area, contact me off list and
 perhaps we can get together once my life settles down a bit.
 
 Blessed be,
 
 Kurt
 -- 
 Your true value depends entirely on what you are compared with.
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Kurt

  Congrats, best of all to yoiu in ths.

cheers

-- 
Rick Sivernell
Dallas, Texas  75287
972 306-2296
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1
Registered Linux User

   .~.
  / v \
 /( _ )\
   ^ ^
In Linux we trust!
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 06:07 am,Kurt Wall wrote:
 Hi, list,

 As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
 position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
 Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. 

Wow, it sounds like Pittsburg has come a long way from steel mills.

 They market several real-time
 OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time
 spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red
 Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, 

How does it differ from MontaVista HardHat Linux?  You guys have hard 
hats in Pittsburg? g

snip

-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd rather be sailing
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

Congrats and enjoy. Pittsburgh has some really nice night life and such. I 
think you'll have a good time.

Tyler

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 07:07 am, you wrote:
 Hi, list,

 As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
 position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
 Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time
 OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time
 spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red
 Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at
 the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am
 in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their
 APIs and other development and programming tools.

 For the time being, I'm staying in some temporary housing but will be
 fully relocating to Pittsburgh by February 18. I've a new email
 addresss, [EMAIL PROTECTED], but [EMAIL PROTECTED] will
 continue to function.

 If anyone here lives in the Pittsburgh area, contact me off list and
 perhaps we can get together once my life settles down a bit.

 Blessed be,

 Kurt

-- 
PDA HandyMan
www.pdahandyman.com
Giving the Mobile User
What They Really Want!
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 10:12 am, Rick Sivernell wrote:
 Bruce

Just tried your site with opera. www.npls.org/onlinecatalog
 worked here. Acutually then went to childrens area  found Sanat.
 My opera anounces it self as IE5.

 cheers

You didn't mention loading the java applet.  My opera announces itself as 
IE5 too but doesn't work  nor does Opera under Windows.


-- 
++
+ Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 01/22/02 10:41  +
++
Hell is kept warm with profane burners.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

I also tried it with Opera. It didn't load, but it didn't crap out either. It 
did, however, vanish a different site and a few pages later. No reason.

HTH

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 08:12 am, you wrote:
 Bruce

Just tried your site with opera. www.npls.org/onlinecatalog
 worked here. Acutually then went to childrens area  found Sanat.
 My opera anounces it self as IE5.

 cheers

-- 
PDA HandyMan
www.pdahandyman.com
Giving the Mobile User
What They Really Want!
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Lee

Bruce Marshall wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 22 January 2002 9:54 am, Lee wrote:
  Just tried it. It works o.k.. I'm using Mandrake 8.0 with Netscape 4.77.
 
  Lee
 
 Sure you got the Java version?   (there's also a non-Java version of the
 catalog)

Yeah. JavaWeb. Had to enable Java Script on my browser, normally run
with it shutdown.
 
 --
 ++
 + Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 01/22/02 10:12  +
 ++
 Luck can't last a lifetime unless you die young. - Russell Banks
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 10:44 am, Lee wrote:
 Bruce Marshall wrote:
  On Tuesday 22 January 2002 9:54 am, Lee wrote:
   Just tried it. It works o.k.. I'm using Mandrake 8.0 with Netscape
   4.77.
  
   Lee
 
  Sure you got the Java version?   (there's also a non-Java version of the
  catalog)

 Yeah. JavaWeb. Had to enable Java Script on my browser, normally run
 with it shutdown.

Looks like 4.77 is a keeper.   Anything newer make it fail.




  --
  +
 + + Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI
  01/22/02 10:12  +
  +
 + Luck can't last a lifetime unless you die young. - Russell Banks
  ___
  Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above
  URL.

 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above
 URL.

-- 
++
+ Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 01/22/02 10:49  +
++
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: opinions on this iptables script

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Myles Green babbled on about:
 Is that in your script Doug? If so, I'm gonna give it a whirl 'cause
 I've got 6 or 7 IIS ...errm.. Users... contributing to excessivly large
 http_access logs =(

nope. the code for that is in hte archives of this list over at 
mail-archive.com

if it's just logging you're concerned with, you can do:
##
## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file
##

# Don't log worm attacks
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/scripts/root\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^MSADC/root\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/[cd]/winnt/system32/cmd\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/scripts/*/winnt/system32/cmd\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/_vti_bin/*/winnt/system32/cmd\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/_mem_bin/*/winnt/system32/cmd\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/default\.ida worm

CustomLog /dev/null env=worm
# End worm stuff

# Logfiles
ErrorLog /opt/apache/logs/error_log
CustomLog /opt/apache/logs/referer_log referer
CustomLog /opt/apache/logs/agent_log agent
CustomLog /opt/apache/logs/access_log combined


-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

Ahhh...I see the screw-up fairy has visited us again...
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Ted Ozolins

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 06:54 am, Lee wrote:

 
  If anyone wants to try it, the url and sequence is:
 
  1)  www.npls.org
 
  2)  select  'online catalog'
 
  3) select  Java WEBpac
 
  The error I now get on mozilla after loading the java applet is:  applet
  not initialized.   (it bombed)

I got the same error using mozilla but using netscaoe 4.78 (Mandrake 8.1) 
works just fine.


Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
Westbank, B. C.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:00:01 -0500
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone
 on these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a
 get-together during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?
=
In OZ, Canada, or US??  Or perhaps some other location??  ;o)
Mike

-- 
The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What
does woman want?'
-- Sigmund Freud

_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 11:00 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?

2003??   By then we'll all be running  Windows  XP :o)

-- 
++
+ Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 01/22/02 11:11  +
++
You fill a much-needed gap.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

I'm in for that. Just of note, I think we should find out where everyone
lives first. Then we can decide on a globally neutral locale to give the
largest number of members the best chance of actually showing up.

Lets see if I can't get my mail server to take a collection :)

Tyler

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Douglas J Hunley
 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?


 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on
 these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?
 --
 Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

 Let just be honest, and admit that it wasn't designed.
   - Linus
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at
 the above URL.




___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 22, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on 
 these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together 
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?

I'm all for it.

Kurt
-- 
Your business will assume vast proportions.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

Okay,

Drop a line to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the
following information:

Name
Current Location

I'll render a map or something with the data. Hell, we might all end up in
Fiji G

Tyler

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Michael Scottaline
 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?


 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:00:01 -0500
 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be
  interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone
  on these lists getting together?
  If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a
  get-together during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?
 =
 In OZ, Canada, or US??  Or perhaps some other location??  ;o)
 Mike

 --
 The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What
 does woman want?'
 -- Sigmund Freud

 _
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at
 the above URL.




___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-22 Thread Susan Macchia

Hi all,

I have converted my all my filesystems to ext3.  I am running SuSE 7.3.  But I
am concerned that my root partition did not get converted.  Last night I had a
power outage and on reboot, fschk was run on my root partition.  The boot
screen showed the following message:

/dev/hda2 not cleanly unmounted, check forced

Now all the other partitions looked like they were using the journal files
because for each partition, I saw a message stating (something to the effect)
that the journal file was being checked.

Once the system was booted, when I do a 'ps | grep jour'  I see only 4 entries
and would expect 5 for my 5 partitions:

root50 1  0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]
root51 1  0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]
root52 1  0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]
root53 1  0 06:44 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]


Below is my fstab:

/dev/hda2   /   ext3defaults 1 1
/dev/hdb5   /usrext3defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb1   /usr/srcext3defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb6   /optext3defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb7   /home   ext3defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb2   swapswappri=42 0 0
/dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecorder   autoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/cdrom  /media/cdromautoro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy   autonoauto,user,sync 0 0
devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts  defaults 0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults 0 0
usbdevfs/proc/bus/usb   usbdevfsdefaults,noauto 0 0



/dev/hda1 has a test version of SuSE7.3 which I can boot into.  I used this to
convert /dev/hda2 (my production root partion).  I am running with the stock
SuSE 7.3 kernel and haven't yet applied any security updates.
 
When I try and rerun tunejfs on /dev/hda2 I get the following message:

tune2fs 1.24a (02-Sep-2001)
The filesystem already has a journal.


So it should be ext3, right?  Can anyone help unravel the mystery?

TIA!

=
_
Susan Macchia
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
_

- Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots...

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on 
these lists getting together?
If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together 
during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?
-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

Let just be honest, and admit that it wasn't designed.
- Linus
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: [Editors]OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Net Llama

Sounds like a good idea, however the logistics involved would be HUGE,
when you have a very geographically diverse group of people.

My first vote would be Golden Gate Park  :)

--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone
 on 
 these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a
 get-together 
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?

=

Lonni J. Friedman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux Step-by-step help:   http://netllama.ipfox.com

 .

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Susan Macchia

 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on 
 these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together 
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?


I would be interested.  July is out though and I probably couldn't travel all
the way to the west coast (sorry llama) since I live on the east :-)



=
_
Susan Macchia
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
_

- Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots...

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

Sorry, I used _ and noted -. That email address below works now. If you
bounced before, try again.

Thanks!

 Okay,

 Drop a line to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the
 following information:

 Name
 Current Location

 I'll render a map or something with the data. Hell, we might all end up in
 Fiji G

 Tyler

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of Michael Scottaline
  Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:05 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
 
 
  On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:00:01 -0500
  Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be
   interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone
   on these lists getting together?
   If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a
   get-together during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?
  =
  In OZ, Canada, or US??  Or perhaps some other location??  ;o)
  Mike
 
  --
  The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What
  does woman want?'
  -- Sigmund Freud
 
  _
  Do You Yahoo!?
  Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
 
  ___
  Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at
  the above URL.
 
 


 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at
 the above URL.



___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: 2nd hdd on 2nd ide channel?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Michael Hipp babbled on about:
 In this config I've heard that hdd would not be able to run with dma and
 and ultra ide modes because of the pokey CD-ROM. Is this true?

I believe that is correct

 How much penalty in performance would I pay by moving hdd to hdb (on ide 0
 with the main drive)? (swap, root, and home all competing for 1 channel)


if the above is indeed true, the penalty would be almost nil compared to the 
alternative configuration

-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

Confidence is the feeling you have before you understand the situation.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Tyler Regas babbled on about:
 Okay,

 Drop a line to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the
 following information:

 Name
 Current Location

 I'll render a map or something with the data. Hell, we might all end up in
 Fiji G

the map will be cool regardless, but I really think the first meeting should 
be somewhere close to the mothership. It'd be a lot easier for me to make 
happen..
-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

Try to prove me wrong.
- Linus
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bruce Marshall babbled on about:
 On Tuesday 22 January 2002 11:00 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together
  during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?

 2003??   By then we'll all be running  Windows  XP :o)

I really didn't think we could get something together for summer 2002 but 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong
-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

Lately, the only thing keeping me from becoming a serial killer 
is my distaste for manual labor.
-- Dilbert
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Nameserver fails after Comcast@home transition to Comcast.net

2002-01-22 Thread kbb0927

Hello All,.

Last night was the night for my market to transition from comcast@home to
comcast.net. I have a box setup with Suse7.2, suse-firewall2 as a router
and it uses dhcp to get it's IP address. I had to reboot for some strange
reason to find out the new IP and nameservers. I then immediately went to
change all my boxes (mix of Linux/Win9x) nameservers to the new one found
in resolv.conf, but nothing will forward. I went back to the old name
servers but with the new IP address via dhcp and things work as usual.
Detail: I am on the dalecty01.va.comcast.net domain, but the nameservers
are md.comcast.home.com or something ( I am at work now and don't remember)
Has anyone made the transition and if so, are your nameserver IP's working
right or did you have to use the old ones?

Best Regards and TIA,

Keith B
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Tom Wilson

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 
 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and 
 everyone on 
 these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a 
 get-together 
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?

I'm down with that.  Sounds fun.  

--
Tom Wilson
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

Its seems I've screwed up again :P My excuse will be that I twisted my ankle
this morning taking my daughter to school. The correct mail address is:

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

For the record, I've got Aaron, Bruce, Michael, and Lon. Everyone else
should probably repost. If you're curious, I'm adding them to a table in
FileMaker Pro 5.5, which later I can make relational with interesting data
and incriminating evidence ;)

Tyler

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Douglas J Hunley
 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tyler Regas
 Subject: Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?


 Tyler Regas babbled on about:
  Okay,
 
  Drop a line to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the
  following information:
 
  Name
  Current Location
 
  I'll render a map or something with the data. Hell, we might
 all end up in
  Fiji G

 the map will be cool regardless, but I really think the first
 meeting should
 be somewhere close to the mothership. It'd be a lot easier for me to make
 happen..
 --
 Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

 Try to prove me wrong.
   - Linus
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at
 the above URL.




___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: VMware Wkstn 3.0 and XP Upgrade

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

In answer to your questions, no. I use VMware extensively in both Windows
and Linux, but shy very far away from XP. It may hurt my career as an
author, but I don't care. It sucks bad. If the install validates against
MSes Piracy Control servers, you should have no problem updating anything.
I've even run .NET Enterprise Server in VMware and used Windows Update.

And that leads me to a rather humerous idea. If everyone used VMware to
install XP then you'd have countless installations whose hardware ID would
be identical, thereby effectively crushing MSes attempt at quashing casual
piracy.

How ironic :)

Tyler

 Hello List(s),

 I know that VMware DOES NOT support using raw devices under Windows XP,
 but has any done this?  Also, has anyone been able to use the XP upgrade
 under VMware?  I am using VMware 3.0 with Win98SE and got a copy
 of XP Home
 Edition Upgrade which I booted into Windows and upgraded winME. That runs
 better now, but I still prefer Linux. I have not activated XP yet as I am
 debating on using it under VMware, but if I could use it from it's own
 partition BEFORE I activate and whithout any oopses or gotcha's
 that would be better.

 Anyone?

 Best Regards,

 Keith B
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at
 the above URL.




___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Tom Wilson

Ian wrote:
[snips] 
 Hmmm.  I've been looking for an excuse to get me down there to the
 Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB...how close is that to you Doug?

It's about 45 miles from me in Cincinnati, and I'm about 100 miles from
Columbus where Doug is, and in a slightly different direction.  Dayton is
due north and Columbus is north-east.  I'd guess about 70-80 miles from
Columbus is Wright-Patt.

--
Tom Wilson
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Also sprach Douglas J Hunley am Dienstag, 22. Januar 2002 17:00:
 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on
 these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?


Ok, when the parity dollar vs euro will have gone down by then ...
Klaus-Peter Schrage
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Nameserver fails after Comcast@home transition to Comcast.net

2002-01-22 Thread Tim Wunder

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All,.
 
 Last night was the night for my market to transition from comcast@home to
 comcast.net. I have a box setup with Suse7.2, suse-firewall2 as a router
 and it uses dhcp to get it's IP address. I had to reboot for some strange
 reason to find out the new IP and nameservers. I then immediately went to
 change all my boxes (mix of Linux/Win9x) nameservers to the new one found
 in resolv.conf, but nothing will forward. I went back to the old name
 servers but with the new IP address via dhcp and things work as usual.
 Detail: I am on the dalecty01.va.comcast.net domain, but the nameservers
 are md.comcast.home.com or something ( I am at work now and don't remember)
 Has anyone made the transition and if so, are your nameserver IP's working
 right or did you have to use the old ones?
 

I'm confused, how can you use a domain name for a nameserver 
(md.comcast.home.com), don't you need an IP address? Otherwise, how can 
you resolve the name of the nameserver?

Mine's working fine using IP addresses:
68.34.76.5
68.34.76.6

Under @home, the nameservers were:
24.3.0.33
24.3.0.34

I'm in the Baltimore, MD area, if that matters...

HTH,
Tim

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: opinions on this iptables script

2002-01-22 Thread Myles Green

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:51:03 -0500
Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Myles Green babbled on about:
  Is that in your script Doug? If so, I'm gonna give it a whirl 'cause
  I've got 6 or 7 IIS ...errm.. Users... contributing to excessivly
  large http_access logs =(
 
 nope. the code for that is in hte archives of this list over at 
 mail-archive.com

Ta.

 if it's just logging you're concerned with, you can do:

This is probably what I should do ;)

 ##
 ## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file
 ##
snip 

 Ahhh...I see the screw-up fairy has visited us again...

let's hope she doesn't ;)

-- 
Myles Green Calgary AB Canada
Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror:
http://mylesg.homelinux.net/
--
USER, n.: The word computer professionals use 
when they mean idiot.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Bill Campbell

On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 10:40:35AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote:
...

What version of Opera?  It fails on my  5.0.   I did get it to work under  
Win/Netscape/4.7  but it fails on Win/Netscape/6.2  with Not init'd

I got it to work here with Netscape Communicator 4.75 (Caldera
eDesktop 2.4).  It didn't work on Mozilla 0.94, and when I went
to view source, it said the browser didn't have java enabled
although there was an open window where it appeared to be
attempting to load applets.

Under Opera 5.0 it says  not init'd

Under Win/Opera/6.0  it says invalid bytecode

Linux Opera 6.0 came up with a blank screen, but I don't think
I've got java configured properly for it.

Bill
--
INTERNET:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC
UUCP:   camco!bill  PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
FAX:(206) 232-9186  Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676
URL: http://www.celestial.com/

``The only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good
in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs,
or impede their efforts to obtain it.'' -- John Stuart Mill, 1859
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: RE: VMware Wkstn 3.0 and XP Upgrade

2002-01-22 Thread kbb0927

Tyler,

What about VMware Tools and VGA? I understand there is no problem with
the AMDnet virtual NIC card. Did you do an upgrade with .Net or the full\
install?

Regards,

Keith B.

Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In answer to your questions, no. I use VMware extensively in both Windows
and Linux, but shy very far away from XP. It may hurt my career as an
author, but I don't care. It sucks bad. If the install validates against
MSes Piracy Control servers, you should have no problem updating anything.
I've even run .NET Enterprise Server in VMware and used Windows Update.

And that leads me to a rather humerous idea. If everyone used VMware to
install XP then you'd have countless installations whose hardware ID would
be identical, thereby effectively crushing MSes attempt at quashing casual
piracy.

How ironic :)

Tyler

 Hello List(s),

 I know that VMware DOES NOT support using raw devices under Windows XP,
 but has any done this?  Also, has anyone been able to use the XP upgrade
 under VMware?  I am using VMware 3.0 with Win98SE and got a copy
 of XP Home
 Edition Upgrade which I booted into Windows and upgraded winME. That runs
 better now, but I still prefer Linux. I have not activated XP yet as I am
 debating on using it under VMware, but if I could use it from it's own
 partition BEFORE I activate and whithout any oopses or gotcha's
 that would be better.

 Anyone?

 Best Regards,

 Keith B
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at
 the above URL.




___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: Re: Nameserver fails after Comcast@home transition to Comcast.net

2002-01-22 Thread kbb0927

Tim,

That's exactly what I mean. It should be 64.48.0.5 and 64.48.0.6 as
nameservers under the new IP, but I still have to use 24.5.80.33 or
24.5.80.34 for my internet connection sharing, 'cause if I use the
64.48, nothing gets forwarded.  Huh?

Regards,

Keith B.

Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All,.
 
 Last night was the night for my market to transition from comcast@home to
 comcast.net. I have a box setup with Suse7.2, suse-firewall2 as a router
 and it uses dhcp to get it's IP address. I had to reboot for some strange
 reason to find out the new IP and nameservers. I then immediately went to
 change all my boxes (mix of Linux/Win9x) nameservers to the new one found
 in resolv.conf, but nothing will forward. I went back to the old name
 servers but with the new IP address via dhcp and things work as usual.
 Detail: I am on the dalecty01.va.comcast.net domain, but the nameservers
 are md.comcast.home.com or something ( I am at work now and don't remember)
 Has anyone made the transition and if so, are your nameserver IP's working
 right or did you have to use the old ones?
 

I'm confused, how can you use a domain name for a nameserver 
(md.comcast.home.com), don't you need an IP address? Otherwise, how can 
you resolve the name of the nameserver?

Mine's working fine using IP addresses:
68.34.76.5
68.34.76.6

Under @home, the nameservers were:
24.3.0.33
24.3.0.34

I'm in the Baltimore, MD area, if that matters...

HTH,
Tim

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:40:35 -0500
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 22 January 2002 10:12 am, Rick Sivernell wrote:
  Bruce
 
 Just tried your site with opera. www.npls.org/onlinecatalog
  worked here. Acutually then went to childrens area  found Sanat.
  My opera anounces it self as IE5.
 
  cheers
 
 What version of Opera?  It fails on my  5.0.   I did get it to work under  
 Win/Netscape/4.7  but it fails on Win/Netscape/6.2  with Not init'd
 
 Under Opera 5.0 it says  not init'd
 
 Under Win/Opera/6.0  it says invalid bytecode
 
 
 -- 
 ++
 + Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 01/22/02 10:27  +
 ++
 An expert is a person who avoids the small errors as he sweeps on to the
grand fallacy.
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Bruce

This is the static version:

Version Information
Version : 5.0
Unregistered version
Operating System Information
Running on : Linux
Kernel version : 2.4.9 #1aD SMP Fri Oct 12 02:10:17 CEST 2001
Machine : i686
Node : RSivernell.sivernell.net
Configuration Information
Preference file : /home/rick/.opera/opera.ini
Opera directory : /home/rick/.opera
Window data storage file : /home/rick/.opera/opera.win
Hot List file : /home/rick/.opera/opera.adr
Cache directory : /home/rick/.opera/cache4
Help directory : /usr/share/opera/help/
Plugin directory : /usr/lib/opera/plugins
Sound Information
Sound is not avaliable.
Opera uses the Network Audio System to play sound

-- 
Rick Sivernell
Dallas, Texas  75287
972 306-2296
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1
Registered Linux User

   .~.
  / v \
 /( _ )\
   ^ ^
In Linux we trust!
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread David Aikema

On January 22, 2002 06:54 am, Lee wrote:
 Just tried it. It works o.k.. I'm using Mandrake 8.0 with Netscape 4.77.

One of the local libraries ( www.spl.surrey.bc.ca ) has something similar.  
I've found it only works in Netscape 4 and Internet Explorer.

David Aikema
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Lee

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 11:19, you wrote:
 --- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 22 January 2002 06:07 am,Kurt Wall wrote:
   Hi, list,
  
   As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
   position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
   Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/.
 
  Wow, it sounds like Pittsburg has come a long way from steel mills.

 No, not really.  Keep in mind, Pittsburgh is where i lived before moving
 out to California last April.  Pittsburgh is still a rather dreary,
 dirty,  boring town (IMO).  I don't even consider it a real city, just
 a sprawling urban area.

Ah, but don't forget the corruption. Where else would the city commission 
drive the city deeply into debt to build three new stadiums (one for the 
baseball team, one for the football team, and one for the hockey team) when 
the tri-rivers stadium, which is still pretty much state of the art, is even 
paid for. This inspite of the fact that the voters voted down this form of 
blackmail by the team owners. And, the taxes are neat to. State income tax, 
state sales tax, city wage tax, county and city property tax and even a 
separate tax levied by the school board.

Lee


 =
 
 Lonni J. Friedman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Linux Step-by-step help:   http://netllama.ipfox.com

  .

 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
 http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
 ___
 Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
 Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above
 URL.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Net Llama

--- Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Congrats and enjoy. Pittsburgh has some really nice night life and
 such. I 
 think you'll have a good time.

Where?  I surely never found it in the 2.5 years I lived there.  

=

Lonni J. Friedman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux Step-by-step help:   http://netllama.ipfox.com

 .

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: RE: VMware Wkstn 3.0 and XP Upgrade

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

 What about VMware Tools and VGA? I understand there is no problem with
 the AMDnet virtual NIC card. Did you do an upgrade with .Net or the full\
 install?

I had no problems with the VMware SVGA drivers or the NIC. Everythings works
just peachy (except that its Windoze, of course). I performed a complete
install. I do have a copy of a standard Win2K Pro install just laying about
that I could try, but it will be a while before I can do that.

Tyler


___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: RE: RE: VMware Wkstn 3.0 and XP Upgrade

2002-01-22 Thread kbb0927

Maybe I'll try it for hoots tonight. Nothing to lose. Just reinstall
win98se if XP croaks. That' the beauty of linux;^)

Best Regards,

Keith B.

Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What about VMware Tools and VGA? I understand there is no problem with
 the AMDnet virtual NIC card. Did you do an upgrade with .Net or the full\
 install?

I had no problems with the VMware SVGA drivers or the NIC. Everythings works
just peachy (except that its Windoze, of course). I performed a complete
install. I do have a copy of a standard Win2K Pro install just laying about
that I could try, but it will be a while before I can do that.

Tyler


___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-22 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 13:37 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:40:35 -0500


 Bruce

 This is the static version:


I don't think Opera under Linux supports Java yet.

 Version Information
 Version : 5.0
 Unregistered version
 Operating System Information
 Running on : Linux
 Kernel version : 2.4.9 #1aD SMP Fri Oct 12 02:10:17 CEST 2001
 Machine : i686
 Node : RSivernell.sivernell.net
 Configuration Information
 Preference file : /home/rick/.opera/opera.ini
 Opera directory : /home/rick/.opera
 Window data storage file : /home/rick/.opera/opera.win
 Hot List file : /home/rick/.opera/opera.adr
 Cache directory : /home/rick/.opera/cache4
 Help directory : /usr/share/opera/help/
 Plugin directory : /usr/lib/opera/plugins
 Sound Information
 Sound is not avaliable.
 Opera uses the Network Audio System to play sound

-- 
++
+ Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI 01/22/02 14:03  +
++
The Tao that is seen Is not the true Tao, until You bring fresh toner.
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Andrew Mathews

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 
 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on
 these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?
 --
 Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
snip

Doug,
  Would there be any entertainment of an installfest to be a part of
this? The opportunity to have all that knowledge in one place might be a
great opportunity to help further the cause (and maybe generate some
revenue to offset expenses!)
-- 
Andrew Mathews

 12:02pm  up 10 days, 18:42,  3 users,  load average: 2.20, 2.08, 2.18

I know th'MAMBO!!  I have a TWO-TONE CHEMISTRY SET!!
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: RE: RE: VMware Wkstn 3.0 and XP Upgrade

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

 Maybe I'll try it for hoots tonight. Nothing to lose. Just reinstall
 win98se if XP croaks. That' the beauty of linux;^)

Of note, I've found VMware to _not_ be the expected bastion of protection to
your Windows installation that I though it would be. THe Linux version is
very safe to run when the Guest OS craps out, but the Windows version will
take the entire system down, even if the Gues OS is Linux.

COL 3.1 hard froze my WIn2K Pro install dead during installation.

Just a note.

Tyler


___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Net Llama

--- Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Where?  I surely never found it in the 2.5 years I lived there.
 
 Well, I thought Valhalla and Foundry Ale were pretty nice. Those were
 down
 on the Strip (?). That area seemed okay, but if you lived there for a
 time
 you'd know better than I :)

Feh.  Maybe i'm just not a party animal.  I've been to the strip on a
bunch of occasions, and all i ever ran into were lots of drunken college kids.

=

Lonni J. Friedman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux Step-by-step help:   http://netllama.ipfox.com

 .

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: [Mirrors]Re: [Editors]OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
 Sounds like a good idea, however the logistics involved would be HUGE,
 when you have a very geographically diverse group of people.

 My first vote would be Golden Gate Park  :)

I was thinking the first one should be somewhere close to the mothership. 
It'd make it easier for me to coordinate and actually get it done
-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

If I throw a stick, will you leave?
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



VMware Wkstn 3.0 and XP Upgrade

2002-01-22 Thread kbb0927

Hello List(s),

I know that VMware DOES NOT support using raw devices under Windows XP,
but has any done this?  Also, has anyone been able to use the XP upgrade 
under VMware?  I am using VMware 3.0 with Win98SE and got a copy of XP Home
Edition Upgrade which I booted into Windows and upgraded winME. That runs
better now, but I still prefer Linux. I have not activated XP yet as I am
debating on using it under VMware, but if I could use it from it's own
partition BEFORE I activate and whithout any oopses or gotcha's that would be better.

Anyone?

Best Regards,

Keith B
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Tyler Regas

 Where?  I surely never found it in the 2.5 years I lived there.

Well, I thought Valhalla and Foundry Ale were pretty nice. Those were down
on the Strip (?). That area seemed okay, but if you lived there for a time
you'd know better than I :)

Tyler


___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-22 Thread Susan Macchia

The output from mount is:

/home/susan/Compaq/backup mount
/dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5)
/dev/hdb5 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb1 on /usr/src type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb6 on /opt type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb7 on /home type ext3 (rw)
shmfs on /dev/shm type shm (rw)
usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)


So it looks like its ext3.  But why would fsck be run on bootup?


Douglass Hunley wrote:

 Susan Macchia babbled on about:
  Once the system was booted, when I do a 'ps | grep jour'  I see only 4
  entries and would expect 5 for my 5 partitions:

  So it should be ext3, right?  Can anyone help unravel the mystery?

 what does 'mount' say that root is mounted as?
 -- 
 Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf

=
_
Susan Macchia
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
_

- Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots...

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: Nameserver fails after Comcast@home transition to Comcast.net

2002-01-22 Thread Tim Wunder

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tim,
 
 That's exactly what I mean. It should be 64.48.0.5 and 64.48.0.6 as
 nameservers under the new IP, but I still have to use 24.5.80.33 or
 24.5.80.34 for my internet connection sharing, 'cause if I use the
 64.48, nothing gets forwarded.  Huh?

Well, I can't help you there. I'm using a router (freesco, 
http://www.freesco.org) for NAT and forwarding. Reconfiguring it for the 
new Comcast.net was a simple as re-booting.

Tim



___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Jay Nugent

Greetings,

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Ian wrote:

 Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  
  Tyler Regas babbled on about:
   Okay,
  
   Drop a line to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the
   following information:
  
   Name
   Current Location
  
   I'll render a map or something with the data. Hell, we might all end up in
   Fiji G
  
  the map will be cool regardless, but I really think the first meeting should
  be somewhere close to the mothership. It'd be a lot easier for me to make
  happen..
 
 Hmmm.  I've been looking for an excuse to get me down there to the
 Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB...how close is that to you Doug?

   I like the Wright-Patterson AF Museum.  But here's another idea... In
the interest of keeping the wives and SO's happy (and willing to let us go
on such a cross-country trip) how about meeting at the Mall of America in
Minni-St.Paul (Bloomington, MN - www.mallofamerica.com).  Plenty of places 
to meet, places to eat, things to do.

  --- Jay
 
Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
 deserve neither liberty nor safety.  -- Ben Franklin (1759) 
++
| Jay Nugent   [EMAIL PROTECTED](734)971-1076(734)971-4529/Fax|
| Nugent Telecommunications  [www.nuge.com] (734)649-0850/Cell   |
|   Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering  Design/ISP Reseller |
| ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.net] ISP  Modem Performance Monitoring |
| Web-Pegasus[www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts|
| LinuxNIC, Inc. [www.linuxnic.net]   Registrar of the .linux TLD|
++



___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.



RE: RE: RE: RE: VMware Wkstn 3.0 and XP Upgrade

2002-01-22 Thread kbb0927

Tyler,

Yup. I only feel confident using the Linux version for that reason. I
had thought about the other way around, but then, thought twice.   ;^)

Best,

Keith B.
Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe I'll try it for hoots tonight. Nothing to lose. Just reinstall
 win98se if XP croaks. That' the beauty of linux;^)

Of note, I've found VMware to _not_ be the expected bastion of protection to
your Windows installation that I though it would be. THe Linux version is
very safe to run when the Guest OS craps out, but the Windows version will
take the entire system down, even if the Gues OS is Linux.

COL 3.1 hard froze my WIn2K Pro install dead during installation.

Just a note.

Tyler


___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.

___
Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.