Re: Commercial CD burning software
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:22:05 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | --- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I, too, use cdrecord direct. But my daughter (all of 8) is not quite | that far along yet. She wants to made CDs of music. So, I am looking. | She likes XMMS, so that type of interface is ok. | | Well there are quite a lot of free cdrecord GUI frontends out there. I | prefer gcombust, others like XCDRoast. Neither needs wine. XCDroast has a terrible user interface. The names for things are very misleading. gcombust is, I think, better. Currently, it is the way I think I will go. Will it survive the 8 year old daughter test? | I'm fairly certain that Limewire is nothing more than a front end to the | Gnutella network. That said, there are other Gnutella clients out there | (that do not require java). I use gtk-gnutella, and find it quite | feature rich user friendly. gtk-gnutella shows you the gnutella | client that the remote file is using, and i've seen Limewire listed | quite often. So, limewire is definitely not a requirement. It was just an endorsement for a program I like. I, personally, prefer it over gtk-gnutella. Anyway, the java required by limewire is already installed on the system (Col 3.1 here), unless you remove it, of course. So, there are no additional system requirements to use LimeWire. JMTCW. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:15 pm, Ted Ozolins warbled: I had SuSe 7.3 on this machine for a few days (FTP install) and had one hell of a time getting my printer to work (Canon 4200) and could not set up samba printing no how. I then tried Mandrake 8.1 and got both local and samba printing set up and working. I'm not too impressed with Mandrake but thats more because of personal taste rather than technical. I better hurry up and settle on a distro soon as I have a neet to set up a data base for cross refferencing partnumbers. Dang! just too many choices. Yes, I have gone to Mandrake too, just too many hassles with Suse. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake 8.2 Beta Announced!
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:21:16 -0500 begin Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Monday 28 January 2002 02:17 pm, Tyler Regas warbled: Mandrake (via SlashDot) has announced that the beta ISOs for 8.2 are now available. I know I'm going to check it out! Tyler I cannot get the iso's without joining their dama club, too costly. What club (he asks as MandrakeLinux-8.2beta-CD2.iso is on the last 100Mb)? I've joined no club. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake 8.1 and X
Thanks Peter! I'll try the Expert Mode tonight. BTW, I wasn't presented with a choice of X3 or X4 at install time, so I hope it is X4... Regards, Cid. --- Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Wednesday 30 Jan 2002 13:07, Cidadão Dorense wrote: Hi all. I'm currently running Mdk 8.1 in a Dell machine with a ATI (MACH 64) video card and a P990 Monitor. Mdk upon istallation doesn't present me with an 1152x864 resolution option; it jumps from 1024x768 to 1280x1024. It will probably offer 1152x864 if you click Expert Mode and then Show All in Mandrake Control Centre. The 1152 option is the best resolution for me, since the 1280 one flickers a little bit. I used 1152 for a long time in Caldera OL. Well, observing the list I got to know the XFree86 -configure option and tryied that as root, saving the file to /root/XF86Config. Then, I tryied XFree86 -xf86configfile /root/XF86Config and it brought up X in the desired resolution, although no Window Manager came up, just raw X. Save your working XF86Config or XF86Config-4 to *.save and keep them in /etc/X11. Then, if I reboot, it doesn't go in runlevel 5 anymore, the logs telling that /root/XF86Config contain errors (??). How did the default boot got pointed to /root/XF86Config if I only tested it with the -xf86configfile option? Also, the Mandrake generated XF86Config file contain modelines for the monitor; since X release 4+ doesn't require that, I tryied to remove those lines but it complains. And in /etc/X11 there are XF86Config and XF86Config-4 files. Caldera used the -4 file, where Mdk seems to be using the one without the -4... This is a lot disturbing. If you're using XFree3 Mandrake will use /etc/X11/XF86Config. If you're using XFree4 Mandrake will use /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Can anyone help? Thanks, Cid. = It said it uses Windows 95 or better, so I loaded Linux! ___ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 7 hours 1 minute. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. = It said it uses Windows 95 or better, so I loaded Linux! ___ Yahoo! GeoCities Tenha seu lugar na Web. Construa hoje mesmo sua home page no Yahoo! GeoCities. É fácil e grátis! http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On 01/31/2002 09:22 PM, Keith Antoine wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:15 pm, Ted Ozolins warbled: I had SuSe 7.3 on this machine for a few days (FTP install) and had one hell of a time getting my printer to work (Canon 4200) and could not set up samba printing no how. I then tried Mandrake 8.1 and got both local and samba printing set up and working. I'm not too impressed with Mandrake but thats more because of personal taste rather than technical. I better hurry up and settle on a distro soon as I have a neet to set up a data base for cross refferencing partnumbers. Dang! just too many choices. Yes, I have gone to Mandrake too, just too many hassles with Suse. Hi all, Interesting and timely info ;-) mini-rant I have been using Caldera since CND1 circa 1995, and have been pretty happy with the quality of their distrobution, and their innovation, until the big Linux for Business push of a couple of years ago. It seems that they have no clear direction, and are continually looking for some elusive goal of making the big bucks off business, who appear to be persuaded more by restrictive license clauses and high prices, than the actual what-you-get-for-your-money product. Kinda sad actually. /mini-rant At this point, I am considering switching distros, and am considering both SuSE and Mandrake (I still can't bring myself to use RedHat...yet) and possibly others. I need to consider both workstation and server application for both home and business use, although there probably isn't one distro which is equally adept for all applications, I'm interested to hear anyone's opinions on the options. My main criteria are: - stability/security - A distro with some continuity/upgradability/sense of direction. Wipe-clean/install-new gets to be a PITA very quickly, particularly with multiple installations in different locations, location-specific configurations, etc... - reasonable price without unreasonable license restrictions. I don't necessarily mind paying for specific commercial apps, but If I want per-seat licensing, I can use Windoze and make management reasonably happy. - Not bleeding edge, but reasonably current - other criteria which I haven't thought of yet ;-) Any comments welcome. TNX, John V. -- _/- John Voigt - K9GBO -|- Registered Linux User #38558 --_/ _/- Reclamation Specialist --|- IN Dept of Natural Resources -_/ _/- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -|- (812) 665-2207 --_/ A shortcut is the longest distance between two points. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Thursday 31 January 2002 9:36 am, John Voigt wrote: At this point, I am considering switching distros, and am considering both SuSE and Mandrake (I still can't bring myself to use RedHat...yet) and possibly others. I need to consider both workstation and server application for both home and business use, although there probably isn't one distro which is equally adept for all applications, I'm interested to hear anyone's opinions on the options. I switched to SuSE from eD2.4 and have been very happy. First with 7.2 and now with 7.3.With 7.2, CUPs was the default printer setup but I didn't use it, instead I installed the latest LPRng (like I always did with Caldera). I notice that with 7.3 they switched to LPRng as the default so that was a no-brainer. My main criteria are: - stability/security Have had no problems. I don't heavily use the on-line (and automatic) update facility but it is there and works well. - A distro with some continuity/upgradability/sense of direction. Wipe-clean/install-new gets to be a PITA very quickly, particularly with multiple installations in different locations, location-specific configurations, etc... SuSE seems to put out a new release about every 4 months. I can't really attest to how well it upgrades from one release to the next as I tend to always do fresh installs. - reasonable price without unreasonable license restrictions. I don't necessarily mind paying for specific commercial apps, but If I want per-seat licensing, I can use Windoze and make management reasonably happy. Seems to fit the bill there. - Not bleeding edge, but reasonably current Same - other criteria which I haven't thought of yet ;-) How about almost every piece of software written for Linux? (although they don't include webmin for some reason) I've been a very happy SuSE user and now that I notice this is the linux.nf list I can say that I feel badly for some users of Caldera who are still fighting the I want to install xyz but I can't get: it to compile/get by the dependencies etc etc. One reason I left Caldera was that I felt it was falling too far behind between releases and the split between WS and Server was not what I wanted. An SuSE distribution can be any kind of machine you want to make it and the machine I am typing this on is both server and WS. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/31/02 09:47 + ++ There are two ways to slide easily through life: to believe everything or to doubt everything; both ways save us from thinking. - Alfred Korzybski ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake 8.2 Beta Announced!
David, Where'd you get the second CD? I was using Linux ISO but every time I tried to fetch CD 2 it would come up as CD 1. It took me 11 hours ( LISO being the fastest source ) and I didn't want to duplicate it unnecessarily. Thanks!! At 05:21 AM 1/31/2002, you wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:21:16 -0500 begin Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Monday 28 January 2002 02:17 pm, Tyler Regas warbled: Mandrake (via SlashDot) has announced that the beta ISOs for 8.2 are now available. I know I'm going to check it out! Tyler I cannot get the iso's without joining their dama club, too costly. What club (he asks as MandrakeLinux-8.2beta-CD2.iso is on the last 100Mb)? I've joined no club. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. --- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pdahandyman.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Incrementing Letter variables in bash
So far my searching hasn't turned up anything useful. Is there a quick way to increment a letter variable in a bash script? I am creating a script to automatically transfer files in a given directory by creating a dated folder (mkdir $(date -I), copy files into new folder and create a .log of the files using the output of 'ls'. The issue here is that in order to stick to an existing convention, more than one transfer in the same day has a '-a' or '-b' appended to the directory and .log file names. I've not been able to come up with a clever way to automatically increment the letter to be appended, for example if '-a' has already been taken for a given day. It's not the checking part that I have trouble with, it's incrementing a _letter_. Before I create some ugly monstrosity of a loop to do this, can anyone offer any hints? Scripting has never been my strong suit...I can read scripts quite well, but tend to complexify simple tasks due to lack of experience. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake 8.2 Beta Announced!
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:58:33 -0700 begin Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: David, Where'd you get the second CD? I was using Linux ISO but every time I tried to fetch CD 2 it would come up as CD 1. It took me 11 hours ( LISO being the fastest source ) and I didn't want to duplicate it unnecessarily. Umm. There's two CDs on every site I've seen. Even the md5ums file shows two CDs. Afraid I don't know what this Linux ISO is you're talking about. The two files I've been d/l are called: MandrakeLinux-8.2beta1-CD?.iso Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
Hi gang. I don't know if it is correct procedure to post from another list and I apologize if this is the case, but I thought this might be of interest to the group, especially those of us who experiment with SuSE. (Please let me know if I screwed up). -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [SLE] SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:17:38 -0500 From: Nadeem Hasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SuSE Linux List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I was at LWCE yesterday and found SuSE to be absent from the floor. I came to know later that they cancelled their spot. So with this and coupled with the fact that they laid off most of the US staff, does it mean that SuSE is no longer interested in US market? Lenz? I was also surprised to see Mandrake booth. This year, the floor was even smaller and attendence lighter. Cheers, -- Nadeem Hasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nadmm.com/ -- -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: no printing from kmail
On Thursday 31 January 2002 9:36 am, John Voigt wrote: At this point, I am considering switching distros, and am considering both SuSE and Mandrake (I still can't bring myself to use RedHat...yet) and possibly others. I need to consider both workstation and server application for both home and business use, although there probably isn't one distro which is equally adept for all applications, I'm interested to hear anyone's opinions on the options. I switched to SuSE from eD2.4 and have been very happy. First with 7.2 and now with 7.3. Ditto on this and all of the areas I've not addressed below. - stability/security Have had no problems. I don't heavily use the on-line (and automatic) update facility but it is there and works well. I have used it and the only problem has been that I'd let it slide too long without, so my ISP connection would time out if I tried to update 50+ patches at once. If I split it into two groups ('security' patches in one and 'recommended' patches in another) it worked fine. The option to select which patches to update made this an easy process. - A distro with some continuity/upgradability/sense of direction. Wipe-clean/install-new gets to be a PITA very quickly, particularly with multiple installations in different locations, location-specific configurations, etc... SuSE seems to put out a new release about every 4 months. I can't really attest to how well it upgrades from one release to the next as I tend to always do fresh installs. The 7.2-7.3 upgrade was easier than falling off a log (and *much* less painful). - other criteria which I haven't thought of yet ;-) I liked it well enough to write a song about SuSE: SxS - Distros - URL Links ... - SuSE section - A Song for SuSE More than that, I have an old 56K ISA modem (USR, but the one with*out* the switches to make it easy to configure). SuSE is the only distro I've tried that recognized it and set it up correctly (and with no input from me). Tried Caldera eD2.4 (liked it but no modem), RedHat (OK, but no modem other problems), Slackware (no dice) and a few others. Only SuSE made that old modem work. Without it I have to fall back on my external 28.8 modem! In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358| +--+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
On Thursday 31 January 2002 12:15 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: More than that, I have an old 56K ISA modem (USR, but the one with*out* the switches to make it easy to configure). SuSE is the only distro I've tried that recognized it and set it up correctly (and with no input from me). Tried Caldera eD2.4 (liked it but no modem), RedHat (OK, but no modem other problems), Slackware (no dice) and a few others. Only SuSE made that old modem work. Without it I have to fall back on my external 28.8 modem! Naw... you'd just spend about 15 minutes setting up pppd and getting on-line. I've never let any distro mess with the modem. (SuSE 7.3 here) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/31/02 12:26 + ++ You might be a high-tech Red-neck if: you have Dilbert comics displayed anywhere in your work area ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself
Net Llama babbled on about: Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5. Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5. Instead of choking like its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm. I'm incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself. You didn't catch this entry in the changelog: No more animal sacrifices needed. XFree86 will now automagically work for all system named after or operated by individual known as animals. Certain municipalities were beginning to enact measures to curtail the thinning of redient wildlife, so this feature was moved from the super-experimental-has-no-real-business-being-used branch to the HEAD branch. Expect continued development and refinement in CVS. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf if (user_specified) /* Didn't work, but the user is convinced this is the * place. */ 2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/drivers/parport/parport_pc.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Proof that MS has WON! ( was Re: WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself)
Net Llama babbled on about: Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5. Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5. Instead of choking like its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm. I'm incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself. So, just le me get this straight... A problem unexpected cropped up on your computer, and the solution was to reboot! I thought that only worked for MS products! Next you'll tell me that you needed to re-install the software to fix something else! We're doomed! ;) -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf die_if_kernel(Whee... Hello Mr. Penguin, current-tss.kregs); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/traps.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfree-4.2+ now does a weirdness
dep babbled on about: no logfiles provide anything out of the ordinary, at least in this connection. (i am puzzled by this, though: Jan 29 00:14:00 depoffice /USR/SBIN/CRON[2847]: (root) CMD ( rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily) Jan 29 00:15:13 depoffice su: (to nobody) root on none Jan 29 00:15:13 depoffice PAM-unix2[3083]: session started for user nobody, service su Jan 29 00:20:15 depoffice PAM-unix2[3083]: session finished for user nobody, service su i was not doing anything at all at that time.) running SuSE yes? this is normal for the daily cron stuff. weird, but normal. ideas? t sure sounds like cron. perhaps the /tmp cleaning is a little too agressive and is deleting a pipe/socket? maybe xscreensaver needs relinked against xfree86's new libs? 4.2.0 turns dpms on for a lot of cards that 4.1.0 did not. perhaps that is it? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf /* When we have more time, we can teach the penguin to say * By your command or Activating turbo boost, Michael. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/prom/sun4prom.c ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake 8.2 Beta Announced!
Umm. There's two CDs on every site I've seen. Even the md5ums file shows two CDs. Same here, but I either couldn't download from them or reach the site at all (the ones listed as mirrors). Afraid I don't know what this Linux ISO is you're talking about. The two files I've been d/l are called: MandrakeLinux-8.2beta1-CD?.iso Sorry, I should've listed an URL. Linux ISO (http://www.linuxiso.org) is a site that simply hosts downloads for a good number of distros. They stay up to date and were carrying the 8.2 beta CDs right after I heard of it on /. I use it for all of my distro needs :) Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. --- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pdahandyman.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Incrementing Letter variables in bash
You can convert a number into a letter with: echo -e \\octal, if you think this might help. Joel On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:32:47AM -0500, Ian wrote: So far my searching hasn't turned up anything useful. Is there a quick way to increment a letter variable in a bash script? I am creating a script to automatically transfer files in a given directory by creating a dated folder (mkdir $(date -I), copy files into new folder and create a .log of the files using the output of 'ls'. The issue here is that in order to stick to an existing convention, more than one transfer in the same day has a '-a' or '-b' appended to the directory and .log file names. I've not been able to come up with a clever way to automatically increment the letter to be appended, for example if '-a' has already been taken for a given day. It's not the checking part that I have trouble with, it's incrementing a _letter_. Before I create some ugly monstrosity of a loop to do this, can anyone offer any hints? Scripting has never been my strong suit...I can read scripts quite well, but tend to complexify simple tasks due to lack of experience. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
New virus?
Anyone seen or heard anything about a new virus? I just received a mail from (No From) with No Subject, just an attachment: MGDACGMG.EXE. Naturally, it doesn't run (executable bit isn't set ;-) ). ??? David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama babbled on about: Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5. Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5. Instead of choking like its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm. I'm incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself. You didn't catch this entry in the changelog: No more animal sacrifices needed. XFree86 will now automagically work for all system named after or operated by individual known as animals. Certain municipalities were beginning to enact measures to curtail the thinning of redient wildlife, so this feature was moved from the super-experimental-has-no-real-business-being-used branch to the HEAD branch. Expect continued development and refinement in CVS. Excellent __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Proof that MS has WON! ( was Re: WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself)
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama babbled on about: Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5. Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5. Instead of choking like its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm. I'm incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself. So, just le me get this straight... A problem unexpected cropped up on your computer, and the solution was to reboot! Not exactly. I rebooted a few times before this, and it continued to be broken. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Attn Sendmail experts
Hi all, OK. I got sendmail working. I can use sendmail to send mail and I can receive mail into my domain for all users. I'm remapping some mail names using virtusertable and everything is working just beautifully. I even tested my server for an open relay on abuse.net and everything appears normal. I now want to reverse map login names to e-mail names and this is where I'm stuck. According to the FAQs at www.sendmail.org: quote If you would like to reverse-map local users for out-bound mail, you will need to add support for the generics table to your .mc file: FEATURE(`genericstable', `dbm /etc/mail/genericstable')dnl GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/generics-domains')dnl /quote My question is: WTF is my .mc file? I've got a bunch of files with .mc extensions in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf. Should I edit the generic-linux.mc, generic-openlinux.mc file, or the mail.cs.mc file? Or should I be looking somewhere else? Also, this is telling me to use `dbm /etc/mail/genericstable'. When I made my virtusertable.db, I had to use makemap hash because my version of makemap didn't support dbm, should I convert this to `hash /etc/mail/genericstable'? BTW I'm running sendmail-8.11-1 on Caldera eWorkstation 3.1. Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: New virus?
-Original Message- From: David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:17:17 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New virus? Anyone seen or heard anything about a new virus? I just received a mail from (No From) with No Subject, just an attachment: MGDACGMG.EXE. Naturally, it doesn't run (executable bit isn't set ;-) ). There have been about 9, 6 discovered on Tuesday alone, new ones since Monday. I don't know if that particular attachment is one or not. The one we have been getting the most since Monday is the My party virus. It comes with an attachment of www.myparty.yahoo.com. -- Tom Wilson -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no printing from kmail
[ snips ] On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:36:45 -0500 John Voigt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, I am considering switching distros, and am considering both SuSE and Mandrake (I still can't bring myself to use RedHat...yet) and possibly others. I need to consider both workstation and server application for both home and business use, although there probably isn't one distro which is equally adept for all applications, I'm interested to hear anyone's opinions on the options. long term, gentoo is the answer My main criteria are: - stability/security getting there; will be more so when 1.0 is released. - A distro with some continuity/upgradability/sense of direction. Wipe-clean/install-new gets to be a PITA very quickly, particularly with multiple installations in different locations, location-specific configurations, etc... yes - reasonable price without unreasonable license restrictions. I don't necessarily mind paying for specific commercial apps, but If I want per-seat licensing, I can use Windoze and make management reasonably happy. The price is right - a total of zip per seat. - Not bleeding edge, but reasonably current Always. You can stay either way and change that at any time - other criteria which I haven't thought of yet ;-) I used gentoo for a year or more - quite stable. gentoo has ported the FreeBSD way of installing maintenance (ports) to the linux arena. The gentoo portage system makes available all reasonable current versions of software packages via on-the-fly download from any available repository. The only drawback at present is that this is install from source. As gentoo matures, they will offer pre-compiled binaries as well. You can certainly do desktop and server support from the gentoo base. Or, you can make the plunge and checkout the real thing - see my signature below grin FreeBSD offers all of what you are looking for, but the drawback is that they don't support every imaginable peripheral yet. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mandrake 8.2 Beta Announced!
On Thursday 31 January 2002 07:21 am, David A. Bandel warbled: On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:21:16 -0500 begin Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Monday 28 January 2002 02:17 pm, Tyler Regas warbled: Mandrake (via SlashDot) has announced that the beta ISOs for 8.2 are now available. I know I'm going to check it out! Tyler I cannot get the iso's without joining their dama club, too costly. What club (he asks as MandrakeLinux-8.2beta-CD2.iso is on the last 100Mb)? I've joined no club. This page David. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3 otherwise what URL do I go to, but preferably an ftp site. You mentioned 'sites', so whereelse can I get the iso's without joining their 'club'... I think the other iso tlked about was in this ref in the Email I received: MandrakeClub A decision has been made to add the Mandrake 8.2 commercial software to the MandrakeClub download section *during* the current beta-testing cycle. We'll let you know when the applications are available to download. Not yet a Mandrake Club member? To learn more, please visit: http://mandrakelinux.com/en/club/ I also see that Calder has released 3.1.1, am also going to try that as well. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfree-4.2+ now does a weirdness
On Thursday 31 January 2002 12:47, Douglas J Hunley wrote: | t sure sounds like cron. perhaps the /tmp cleaning is a little too | agressive and is deleting a pipe/socket? | maybe xscreensaver needs relinked against xfree86's new libs? | 4.2.0 turns dpms on for a lot of cards that 4.1.0 did not. perhaps | that is it? that was my guess -- but then it stopped happening. oddly, my openGL stuff also lost the performance gain it previously had. the only thing i did was upgrade my zlib stuff, which was necessary to get kde3 to build. so now i need to figure out what's going on here, and maybe rebuild xfree with the new zlib stuff. yuck. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
(NEVERMIND!) Re: Attn Sendmail experts
I figgered it out, sorry to have bothered you. Tim Tim Wunder wrote: Hi all, OK. I got sendmail working. I can use sendmail to send mail and I can receive mail into my domain for all users. I'm remapping some mail names using virtusertable and everything is working just beautifully. I even tested my server for an open relay on abuse.net and everything appears normal. I now want to reverse map login names to e-mail names and this is where I'm stuck. According to the FAQs at www.sendmail.org: quote If you would like to reverse-map local users for out-bound mail, you will need to add support for the generics table to your .mc file: FEATURE(`genericstable', `dbm /etc/mail/genericstable')dnl GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/generics-domains')dnl /quote My question is: WTF is my .mc file? I've got a bunch of files with .mc extensions in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf. Should I edit the generic-linux.mc, generic-openlinux.mc file, or the mail.cs.mc file? Or should I be looking somewhere else? Also, this is telling me to use `dbm /etc/mail/genericstable'. When I made my virtusertable.db, I had to use makemap hash because my version of makemap didn't support dbm, should I convert this to `hash /etc/mail/genericstable'? BTW I'm running sendmail-8.11-1 on Caldera eWorkstation 3.1. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Incrementing Letter variables in bash
This should give you an idea of how to proceed: --- cut here --- #!/bin/sh # This creates an array consisting of lower case letters, indexed # from 0 A=(a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z) # Index through the array for (( i=0 ; $((i=25)) ; $((i++)) )) do echo A[$i] = ${A[$i]} done echo --- cut here--- $ ./x A[0] = a A[1] = b A[2] = c ... A[23] = x A[24] = y A[25] = z Hope this helps. Kurt -Original Message- From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thu 1/31/2002 11:32 AM To: SxS-users Cc: Subject:Incrementing Letter variables in bash So far my searching hasn't turned up anything useful. Is there a quick way to increment a letter variable in a bash script? I am creating a script to automatically transfer files in a given directory by creating a dated folder (mkdir $(date -I), copy files into new folder and create a .log of the files using the output of 'ls'. The issue here is that in order to stick to an existing convention, more than one transfer in the same day has a '-a' or '-b' appended to the directory and .log file names. I've not been able to come up with a clever way to automatically increment the letter to be appended, for example if '-a' has already been taken for a given day. It's not the checking part that I have trouble with, it's incrementing a _letter_. Before I create some ugly monstrosity of a loop to do this, can anyone offer any hints? Scripting has never been my strong suit...I can read scripts quite well, but tend to complexify simple tasks due to lack of experience. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. winmail.dat
Re: Linux Compete for Microsoft partners
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 14:10, you wrote: That's one set of cookies I'll be erasing http://www.interwise.com/live/viewevent.asp?eventid=574 Cheers, Zoran. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Incrementing Letter variables in bash
Here is a short script which will do what you want. Run it as: scriptname letter and see the magic. #!/bin/bash upletter () { octal=`echo -n $L | od -A n -o` new_octal=`echo obase = 8;ibase=8;$octal + 1 | bc` L=`eval echo -e $new_octal` } L=$1 upletter echo This is the new letter $L I have no idea why I had to use the eval statement and all the slashes in front of $new_octal, but it works. That is the kind of thing I can imagine breaking between different versions of bash. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Thank You Re: Incrementing Letter variables in bash
Joel Hammer wrote: Kurt W wrote stuff too Thanks guys, Both work well. I just have to decide which fits into my script best when I head back to work tomorrow. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Thursday 31 January 2002 08:52 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: o: SuSE Linux List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I was at LWCE yesterday and found SuSE to be absent from the floor. I came to know later that they cancelled their spot. So with this and coupled with the fact that they laid off most of the US staff, does it mean that SuSE is no longer interested in US market? Lenz? I was also surprised to see Mandrake booth. This year, the floor was even smaller and attendence lighter. Why am I not surprised. How in hell do you expect to interest people in considering linux if all they hear and see is XP? -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote: I was at LWCE yesterday and found SuSE to be absent from the floor. Why am I not surprised. How in hell do you expect to interest people in considering linux if all they hear and see is XP? A correction on the SuSE mailing list: they are on the floor, near the IBM booth. The situation of people not knowing about Linux is probably going to change, IBM is airing advertisements now on TV. :-) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Thursday 31 January 2002 04:11 pm,Ted Ozolins wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2002 08:52 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: o: SuSE Linux List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I was at LWCE yesterday and found SuSE to be absent from the floor. I came to know later that they cancelled their spot. So with this and coupled with the fact that they laid off most of the US staff, does it mean that SuSE is no longer interested in US market? Lenz? I was also surprised to see Mandrake booth. This year, the floor was even smaller and attendence lighter. Why am I not surprised. How in hell do you expect to interest people in considering linux if all they hear and see is XP? Sorry again, I may have posted too soon. I saw this reply from Chris Mahmood. Still too bad they had no booth. Yes, the entire office except for me and the accountant are there. We're spread between the IBM and a couple of other booths. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Thursday 31 January 2002 19:34, Joshua Lee wrote: | A correction on the SuSE mailing list: they are on the floor, near | the IBM booth. The situation of people not knowing about Linux is | probably going to change, IBM is airing advertisements now on TV. problem is, i spent yesterday there and part of it was spent searching for suse. if they're there, they're very effectively disguised. and the show this year is *miniscule* compared to last year, so it's not all that easy to get lost. hell, i spent a short time in a nice conversation with esr, and even exchanged pleasantries with jeff hemos bates and rob malda. almost intimate. tough to hide. and no evidence of suse but for a listing at the ibm display, which included other distributions as well. and actual suse people who were there as part of other displays said that suse had canceled two weeks ago. so there is definitely conflicting information around. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Attn Sendmail experts
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:42:47 -0500 begin Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] My question is: WTF is my .mc file? I've got a bunch of files with .mc extensions in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf. Should I edit the generic-linux.mc, generic-openlinux.mc file, or the mail.cs.mc file? Or should I be looking somewhere else? use the generic-openlinux.mc file. But you should already have genericstable support (in hash format). Also, this is telling me to use `dbm /etc/mail/genericstable'. When I made my virtusertable.db, I had to use makemap hash because my version of makemap didn't support dbm, should I convert this to `hash /etc/mail/genericstable'? you are correct. BTW I'm running sendmail-8.11-1 on Caldera eWorkstation 3.1. I believe you already have what you need, you just need to create the genericstable and genericstable.db. You will also need CG lines (outgoing domains) or sendmail will refuse to rewrite per the genericstable stuff. Now, if you have defined DM (masquerade_as) and also have (masquerade_envelope), you'll almost certainly need FEATURE(limited_masquerade). You can check out your changes like this: sendmail -bt -d21.9 /tryflags hs /try local [EMAIL PROTECTED] you can use Ctrl+d to get out. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Attn Sendmail experts
Previously, David A. Bandel chose to write: On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:42:47 -0500 begin Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: snip I've got a bunch of files with .mc extensions in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf. Should I edit the generic-linux.mc, generic-openlinux.mc file, or the mail.cs.mc file? Or should I be looking somewhere else? use the generic-openlinux.mc file. But you should already have genericstable support (in hash format). That's what I did. It didn't have genericstable in there, so I added it. snip BTW I'm running sendmail-8.11-1 on Caldera eWorkstation 3.1. I believe you already have what you need, you just need to create the genericstable and genericstable.db. You will also need CG lines (outgoing domains) or sendmail will refuse to rewrite per the genericstable stuff. Hmmm... lessee. Nope, no CG lines. Is that a problem? The re-writing appears to be happening OK. Now, if you have defined DM (masquerade_as) and also have (masquerade_envelope), you'll almost certainly need FEATURE(limited_masquerade). I have a defined DM, yes. I just added FEATURE(limited_masquerade) because of a problem I was having with the Return Path not getting masqueraded. Why would I nead limited_masquerade? It seems to be working without it. From the blurb on the sendmail.org site, it doesn't really apply to my small home network (I don't think). You can check out your changes like this: sendmail -bt -d21.9 /tryflags hs /try local [EMAIL PROTECTED] you can use Ctrl+d to get out. Ciao, David A. Bandel Thanks David. Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
XMMS runs fast and no sound for some users
I used to know this but: XMMS runs fine for my regular user, but when another regular user tries to use it, the song loads, but plays very fast, and there is no sound. There is no attempt made to access the audio device, because this behavior occurs even when there is another xmms program running successfully from my regular user. strace xmms gives an error over and over again: read(4, 0xb974, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) This doesn't appear to be a permissions problem with the mp3's. I made xmms chmod +s so it has the following permissions: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root users 964239 Feb 17 2000 /usr/bin/xmms I tried to install an updated version of xmms, but, as is getting common, it wouldn't compile on my badly abused caldera 2.4 box. I found the FAQ regarding xmms but they don't mention this problem. The other regular user can play mp3's fine with mpg123, so this may be some KDE or graphics problem. Any insight appreciated, Joe ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: XMMS runs fast and no sound for some users
This normally occurs when you've set the output device in XMMS to generate a wav file rather than to play the MP3 to /dev/audio. Check the XMMS config. --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to know this but: XMMS runs fine for my regular user, but when another regular user tries to use it, the song loads, but plays very fast, and there is no sound. There is no attempt made to access the audio device, because this behavior occurs even when there is another xmms program running successfully from my regular user. strace xmms gives an error over and over again: read(4, 0xb974, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) This doesn't appear to be a permissions problem with the mp3's. I made xmms chmod +s so it has the following permissions: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root users 964239 Feb 17 2000 /usr/bin/xmms I tried to install an updated version of xmms, but, as is getting common, it wouldn't compile on my badly abused caldera 2.4 box. I found the FAQ regarding xmms but they don't mention this problem. The other regular user can play mp3's fine with mpg123, so this may be some KDE or graphics problem. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: XMMS runs fast and no sound for some users
Oh, for Pete's sake. I tried yet another regular user, and he worked fine. So, I just deleted the .xmms directory with the problem user, and things work now. I wish I had saved that directory so I could see what might have been the problem. Ugh. Joel On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 09:33:31PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: I used to know this but: XMMS runs fine for my regular user, but when another regular user tries to use it, the song loads, but plays very fast, and there is no sound. There is no attempt made to access the audio device, because this behavior occurs even when there is another xmms program running successfully from my regular user. strace xmms gives an error over and over again: read(4, 0xb974, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) This doesn't appear to be a permissions problem with the mp3's. I made xmms chmod +s so it has the following permissions: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root users 964239 Feb 17 2000 /usr/bin/xmms I tried to install an updated version of xmms, but, as is getting common, it wouldn't compile on my badly abused caldera 2.4 box. I found the FAQ regarding xmms but they don't mention this problem. The other regular user can play mp3's fine with mpg123, so this may be some KDE or graphics problem. Any insight appreciated, Joe ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: New virus?
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:17:17 -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: Anyone seen or heard anything about a new virus? I just received a mail from (No From) with No Subject, just an attachment: MGDACGMG.EXE. Naturally, it doesn't run (executable bit isn't set ;-) ). Give it a scan. Names is for tombstones baby Mr Big. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
Ted Ozolins wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2002 08:52 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: o: SuSE Linux List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I was at LWCE yesterday and found SuSE to be absent from the floor. I came to know later that they cancelled their spot. So with this and coupled with the fact that they laid off most of the US staff, does it mean that SuSE is no longer interested in US market? Lenz? I was also surprised to see Mandrake booth. This year, the floor was even smaller and attendence lighter. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Mandrake. Lately, they have begun to show an agressive streak. Imagine that the French advance while the Germans retreat. The next thing you know somebody will let the cat out of that bag that Gates runs Linux on his home computer. Lee -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Compete for Microsoft partners
On Jan 30 LESLEY was heard saying: -On Tuesday 29 January 2002 14:10, you wrote: -That's one set of cookies I'll be erasing *** Yep, especially when you foind out, by trying to sign-up for an on-line participation, that only users with Win95/98/Me/2000/XP and IE5.x are supported... Cheers, Zoran. -- If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.