Re: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam
From: Joseph Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: list@gundam.com To: list@gundam.com Subject: Re: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:54:31 -0400 (EDT) You're right that there are no hard and fast rules for acronyms. Look hard enough, and I'm sure you could find one that didn't have any vowels, and yet people insisted on pronouncing (even though such an action is technically illegal in English). For example, the Japanese indicates VSBR is meant to be pronounced as vesbar. --- Neo-Era Gunota Headlines http://aeug.blogspot.com The New Adventures Of Tomino-sama http://www.mahq.net/rants/neo/neomain.htm _ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 -- The Gundam Mailing List MK-II list@gundam.com Archives: http://www.gundam.com/gml Help: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this in the BODY: help list
Re: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam
I had that game. It would say his name in this wonderful deep baritone, sure to be heard by the whole household. Thankfully my mom is not the sort to get too shocked. Reynolds, Jason M. wrote: But I suppose that's what happens when you have people who aren't fluent in a language coming up with names for that language. It has been worse. The Char's Counter Attack game for the PlayStation let you play as Char in various stages of his career. The most outrageous was Quattro Vagina from Zeta Gundam... -- The Gundam Mailing List MK-II list@gundam.com Archives: http://www.gundam.com/gml Help: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this in the BODY: help list
Re: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam
Dr. Core wrote: Richard Ramos wrote: I had that game. It would say his name in this wonderful deep baritone, sure to be heard by the whole household. Thankfully my mom is not the sort to get too shocked. Did he say veh-JIN-na or did he say VEG-gian-nar? Seriously, all I remember (since it's been a long time) is that my mom and dad laugh whenever I play that game. -- The Gundam Mailing List MK-II list@gundam.com Archives: http://www.gundam.com/gml Help: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this in the BODY: help list
RE: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam
But I suppose that's what happens when you have people who aren't fluent in a language coming up with names for that language. It has been worse. The Char's Counter Attack game for the PlayStation let you play as Char in various stages of his career. The most outrageous was Quattro Vagina from Zeta Gundam... -- The Gundam Mailing List MK-II list@gundam.com Archives: http://www.gundam.com/gml Help: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this in the BODY: help list
RE: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam
Yes, the "pre-US Zeta release" English rendition of his name. I remember speculation on this list over how that would be handled by Bandai when Zeta was finally released over here. junior -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam Date : Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:42:03 -0500 From : "Reynolds, Jason M." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : "'list@gundam.com'" list@gundam.com But I suppose that's what happens when you have people who aren't fluent in a language coming up with names for that language. It has been worse. The Char's Counter Attack game for the PlayStation let you play as Char in various stages of his career. The most outrageous was Quattro Vagina from Zeta Gundam... -- The Gundam Mailing List MK-II list@gundam.com Archives: http://www.gundam.com/gml Help: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this in the BODY: help list
Re: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam
Joseph Riggs wrote: I think the main thing is that for most English speakers, a word consisting largely of vowels doesn't sound quite right. NATO works because each syllable is composed of Safe to say, there isn't a set of strong rules to decide whether an acronym is commonly pronounced as an English word. E.g. NSERC is pronounced as a word (EN-surk) but USA is spelled-out rather than pronounced (you-sah). In some areas (MRI) practitioners bent over backward to engineer full names to make a cool acronyms. Furthermore, neither Aeug nor A.E.U.G. rolls off the tongue easily. So there isn't a strong set of rules nor a clear favorite based on which one sounds more natural. So going back to the Japanese dialog is a reasonable approach. I am curious, in the entire game (or other games for that matter) if no one ever spell out the acronym verbally or say the full name verbally. Especially, they do spell out E.F.S.F verbally right? Also, I still can't get over the fact that the Japanese wiki article for エゥーゴ lists four versions of the full name. Applying online translation tool suggests that Anti Earth Union Group was found in an older novelization and Anti Earth United Government is found in references since 1998. (incidentally Gundam Official website uses Anti Earth Union Group) I will take a look at materials at my disposal (if I remember): MS Encyclopedia 98... ehh... that's it, I never brought any MG/PG kits from Zeta... Hmmm -- Dr. Core -- The Gundam Mailing List MK-II list@gundam.com Archives: http://www.gundam.com/gml Help: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this in the BODY: help list
Re: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam
You're right that there are no hard and fast rules for acronyms. Look hard enough, and I'm sure you could find one that didn't have any vowels, and yet people insisted on pronouncing (even though such an action is technically illegal in English). As I said,"ae-youg"just sounds awkward to my ear.
I haven't played much with AEUG members, so I can't say if anyone spells it out or not. I haven't heard a single reference to the EFSF acronym. Instead, anytime the Federation comes up, characters in the game seem to prefer saying the entire name (though I don't remember off-hand if the space force is ever specifically mentioned as the "Space Force" within the game).
For some reason, this discussion suddenly brought to mind the Kevin Bacon film, "The Air Up There" (I believe that was the name of it), where the African natives in the film constantly referred to the "Nu-ba".
(NBA)
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Subject : Re: [RE][gundam] AEUG pronunciation Re: Dynasty Warriors Gundam
Date : Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:41:52 -0400
From : "Dr. Core" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joseph Riggs wrote:
I think the main thing is that for most English speakers, a "word" consisting largely of
vowels doesn't sound quite right. "NATO" works because each syllable is composed of
Safe to say, there isn't a set of strong rules to decide whether an
acronym is commonly pronounced as an English word. E.g. NSERC is
pronounced as a word ("EN-surk") but USA is spelled-out rather than
pronounced ("you-sah"). In some areas (MRI) practitioners bent over
backward to engineer full names to make a cool acronyms.
Furthermore, neither Aeug nor A.E.U.G. rolls off the tongue easily.
So there isn't a strong set of rules nor a clear favorite based on
which one sounds more natural. So going back to the Japanese dialog
is a reasonable approach. I am curious, in the entire game (or other
games for that matter) if no one ever spell out the acronym verbally
or say the full name verbally. Especially, they do spell out E.F.S.F
verbally right?
Also, I still can't get over the fact that the Japanese wiki article
for "エゥーゴ" lists four versions of the full name. Applying online
translation tool suggests that "Anti Earth Union Group" was found in
an older novelization and "Anti Earth United Government" is found in
references since 1998. (incidentally Gundam Official website uses
"Anti Earth Union Group")
I will take a look at materials at my disposal (if I remember): MS
Encyclopedia 98... ehh... that's it, I never brought any MG/PG kits
from Zeta... Hmmm
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