Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
Al Kendall wrote: My dilemma is that on my last rebuild of my site I changed the .php files. This has created problems with links to my site from other peoples sites as they have added the /index.html extension to their links. What is the best/correct way of redirecting them to my /index.php files? In my opinion; the appropriate thing to do is throw a 300 level moved permanently error. Now whether you redirect immediately or inform your users as to the nature of the redirection is a matter of usability preference. I think we're moving off the subject of web standards (or, perhaps not as appropriate http codes are part of a standard). If you would like to discuss it, contact me off list. --R ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
Patrick H. Lauke skrev: Joseph Bernhardt wrote: I run an apache server and utilize the .htaccess file to run a php script on a 404 error. This php script grabs the contents of the current uri to display information. (example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html) My question is, will this have any effect as far as usability? One question: why not use mod_rewrite instead? It's cleaner from a conceptual point of view, and won't send out an http status of 404. Using the error document functionality for this seems a bit of a perversion of its intended use... I thought this was the intended use of the ErrorDocument directive?! (what else could it be?) And sending a 404 for a page that doesn't exist is a good thing, in my view. I use mod_rewrite and Php for all handling of URIs, but send a 404 when a page is not found. You can send a normal web page with a 404 http status, just be careful to make the resulting HTML long enough, otherwise IE will display it's own error message instead. I can't remember the number of bytes right now ... /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
Anders, Obviously you did not read the initial post :). That's alright. I am using a php script to display data depending on the current page. Example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html displays the page that is titled Rockport while www.joughslife.com/otherstuff.html would display the page titled otherstuff. So, these aren't supposed to be 404's. I was simply using this technique to display the pages. Anders Nawroth wrote: Lindsay Evans skrev: To stop the validator/robots/etc. seeing it as a 404 error, you need to send a 200 OK HTTP status code, you can do that in PHP using this line of code: header(HTTP/1.1 200 OK); Why would you want to see 404 pages in search results? If you need to validate the (X)HTML, you can upload it to the validator in this case. Shouldn't be any need to validate your error pages too often! /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
OK, now I get it :-) /Anders Joseph Bernhardt skrev: Anders, Obviously you did not read the initial post :). That's alright. I am using a php script to display data depending on the current page. Example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html displays the page that is titled Rockport while www.joughslife.com/otherstuff.html would display the page titled otherstuff. So, these aren't supposed to be 404's. I was simply using this technique to display the pages. Anders Nawroth wrote: Lindsay Evans skrev: To stop the validator/robots/etc. seeing it as a 404 error, you need to send a 200 OK HTTP status code, you can do that in PHP using this line of code: header(HTTP/1.1 200 OK); Why would you want to see 404 pages in search results? If you need to validate the (X)HTML, you can upload it to the validator in this case. Shouldn't be any need to validate your error pages too often! /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] 404 Redirectationite
I run an apache server and utilize the .htaccess file to run a php script on a 404 error. This php script grabs the contents of the current uri to display information. (example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html) My question is, will this have any effect as far as usability? Also, the w3c validator was unable to recognize the page as anything other than 404; will other spiders/bots be able to recognize content? Thank you, as always! Jough ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
