Pony

2001-02-28 Thread Matthew Robinson


Although I didn't make it to the pub after Damian's talk I did hear from my
sources that someone thought it would be 'useful' to convert Bleach.pm to
print pony instead.  So here it is Pony.pm, it isn't quite the same as
Bleach but it produces a similar result.

Enjoy,

Matt

package Pony; 
$VERSION = '1.00'; # MSR - 28 Feb 2001
$magic = "pony " x 4;
sub pony { local $_ = unpack("b*", pop); s/0/ /g; s/1/pony/g; $magic.$_ }
sub depony { local $_ = pop; s/^$magic//; s/pony/1/g; s/ /0/g; pack("b*",
$_) }
open 0 or die;
($script = join("", 0)) =~ s/^(.*^use\s+Pony\s*;\s*?\n)//sm;
$header = $1;
do { eval depony($script); exit } if ($script =~ /^$magic/);
open(0, "$0") or die;
print {0} $header.pony($script);






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2001-02-28 Thread PRennie

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Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

2001-02-28 Thread Dave Cross

At Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:10:22 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 UNSUBSCRIBE

Nope. That won't work.

You need to send admin emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this 
case your mail should contain the line:

unsubscribe london-pm


hth,

Dave...



Re: Buffy episode 'too explicit'

2001-02-28 Thread Dave Cross

At Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:31:19 +, Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 05:18:48AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_1193000/1193146.stm
  
  "Cult show Buffy the Vampire Slayer has been rapped by TV watchdogs 
  for being too sexually explicit for its early evening BBC slot. 
  
  "Viewers objected to seeing sex and violence in an episode about 
  the schoolgirl vampire killer, who uses martial arts to defend 
  herself, broadcast at 6.45pm on 12 October last year."
  
  Anyone know which episode was shown on that date?
 
 Well let's take a guess at which episodes actually contained explicit
 sex schenes...
 
 * Buffy/Angel - Buffy / Bad Angel
 
 * Faith jumps Xander.
 
 Probably the latter.

By the date, I'd guess it would be mid to late series three, so your
second guess (The Zeppo) would look pretty good to me.

There's a couple of episodes in series four that would cause a bit of
a problem too. One they've already shown which shows Buffy  Riley's
first shag and one coming in a few weeks called "Where The Wild Things
Are" which is all about... well... doing the wild thing :)

 Ohmighod, did I just admit to knowing this in a public forum?

"My name is Dave and it's been three weeks since I watched more than
one episode on Buffy on the same day."



Re: Buffy episode 'too explicit'

2001-02-28 Thread Simon Wistow

Dave Cross wrote:

 "My name is Dave and it's been three weeks since I watched more than
 one episode on Buffy on the same day."

Wah, due to circumstances beyond my control I haven't seen
(terrestrial) 8uffy for about a month now. I think the last episode I
saw was the one with Faith waking up.



Re: Buffy episode 'too explicit'

2001-02-28 Thread Dave Cross

At Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:53:53 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave Cross wrote:
 
  "My name is Dave and it's been three weeks since I watched more than
  one episode on Buffy on the same day."
 
 Wah, due to circumstances beyond my control I haven't seen
 (terrestrial) 8uffy for about a month now. I think the last episode I
 saw was the one with Faith waking up.

Due to "snooker" breaks, I think you've only missed a couple of 
episodes.

Dave...



Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Greg McCarroll


Just to confirm there will be Heretic's fire side chat at the Anchor
on the 8th of the month again, for those who were not at the last
one we basically embrace and extend one of the side rooms of 
the anchor and gather around an open fire for some good beer and
the usual old rubbish chat.

There will be no meal this time, as that was a bit crap compared
to the excellent open fire and beer.

Although I appreciate that fire and heretic do seem a bit too
connected here ;-)

- Forwarded message from David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:25:14 +
From: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Heretics' meeting
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
X-public-key-is-at: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/public-key.txt

 yup, there will be a Heretic's ``fire side chat''

Good-oh!  I've invited Eric van Buggenhaut, a Belgian LBWer who's in
London that week.  I've insisted that he needs some proper beer whilst
over here, and none of that fancy foreign muck he gets at home.

- End forwarded message -

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



[JOB] Passing on a permi web developer add from an old client

2001-02-28 Thread Greg Cope


Dear All

An old client I used to contract for needs a permie web developer -
London, W2 based.

This role has nothing to do with me, and I am not an agent, just
spreading the word for an old client - I thought the people here may be
interested.  i.e if it all goes pear shaped don't come running to me ;-)

Quote from the job spec they sent me:

quote
looking for a full-time, permanent Web Developer to maintain current
systems and develop new tools for the site. Working for the Technical
Development Manager, the candidate should have an excellent track record
in MySQL and Perl on a Unix (Linux) platform (min 2 years) and have
experience developing web applications in PHP4. Some knowledge of
SendMail,Qmail, HTML and JavaScript would be an asset.
/quote

If anyone is interested then contact eleanor.thompson at
bluecarrots.com.

Greg

insert massive disclaimer here 



Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Hamlet D'Arcy

Could you post a bit more about the Heretic's meeting?
Perhaps some links.

I've never heard of the group.

Thanks,

_
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Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Struan Donald

* at 28/02 15:09 - Hamlet D'Arcy said:
 Could you post a bit more about the Heretic's meeting?
 Perhaps some links.
 
 I've never heard of the group.

if only we had a faq :)

struan



Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Struan Donald

* at 23/02 06:57 -0500 Dave Cross said:
 At Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:40:19 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
  Q. When are social meetings?
  A. On the day after the first wednesday of the month.
 
 Please stop confusing the newcomers. 
 
 London.pm social meetings are _always_ on the first Thursday of the month. Some sad 
individuals have a problem with that and insist on 
 using other arcane calculations for the meeting date. This only results
 in problems when the _official_ meetings are on the 1st of the month.
 On months like this (and March will be one such month) you may well
 see talk of a 'heretics meeting' on the 8th.
 
 Hope this is clearer now.
 
 Dave...

* at 28/02 15:09 - Hamlet D'Arcy said:
 Could you post a bit more about the Heretic's meeting?
 Perhaps some links.
 
 I've never heard of the group.

to be more helpful see above[1].

struan

[1]: wondering how to make mutt do things in the right order when
replying to multiple posts.



Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Dave Cross

At Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:12:59 +, Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * at 28/02 15:09 - Hamlet D'Arcy said:
  Could you post a bit more about the Heretic's meeting?
  Perhaps some links.
  
  I've never heard of the group.
 
 if only we had a faq :)

I know, I know. I'll work on it some time this week... or over the 
weekend... or something!

Dave...



Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:16:17PM +, Struan Donald typed:

to be more helpful see above[1].
[1]: wondering how to make mutt do things in the right order when
replying to multiple posts.

Tag the posts you want, then reverse the sort order (shift-o whatsit).

Roger



Tech reviewing

2001-02-28 Thread David Cantrell

I've been approached to do some paid tech-reviewing, of a manual for a
Linux security product.  I have *no* idea how I should charge for this,
or indeed how much.  Does one usually do it per thousand words or
something?

It's basically making sure that it reads OK when translated into English
by the German authors, and requires no knowledge of the product itself,
but does - obviously - require some familiarity with the subject.

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

   Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced

** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **

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Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Hamlet D'Arcy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Could you post a bit more about the Heretic's meeting?
 Perhaps some links.
 
 I've never heard of the group.
 

I have no ability to handle dates (ok, we can also include names,
phone numbers and addresses (non computer) into this if we want) and
hence always have a problem when the meeting occurs on the first of
the month - i simply haven't came to terms with the fact that it
is a new month yet. hence i proposed that the we'd meet on the 8th
when this happens, so my logic was ...

if (meeting date = 1st of mth) {
meet on 8th
} else {
meet on 1st thursday of mth
}

someone simplified this to ...

meetings are held on the day after the first wednesday of
the month

i then partitioned for this change, but dave held valiantly against
myself and the other usual suspects (JS,DC,) - i was also at
some stage called `the heretic'

philip newton even gimped something up about this

however i then ``refused'' to recognise the real meetings if they
occured on the 1st, even though i may attend them

so it was decided whenever the meeting _should_ of been held on
the 8th we would have an additional meeting, named ``the heretics
meeting'', we had our first last month at the very fine anchor pub

last month we had a meal that was ok, but a bit pricey, however in
the anchor we found a nice open fire that was roaring away hapilly

and coupled with some really quite good beer we sat by the fire
talking and joking as usual

a good time was had by all by the fire, and so heretics meetings
from now on are going to be the same sort of cozy fireside chats

there will only be another 2 this year - this year has been a
very heretical year (3 meetings!)

ok, that makes everything crystal

are you sorry you asked?

Greg 



-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 05:44:31PM +, Greg McCarroll typed:

someone simplified this to ...

   meetings are held on the day after the first wednesday of
   the month

Guilty. What can I say, it was my first meeting.

Roger



Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Matthew Robinson

At 17:44 28/02/01 +, you wrote:
* Hamlet D'Arcy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Could you post a bit more about the Heretic's meeting?
 Perhaps some links.
 
 I've never heard of the group.
 

I have no ability to handle dates (ok, we can also include names,
phone numbers and addresses (non computer) into this if we want) and
hence always have a problem when the meeting occurs on the first of
the month - i simply haven't came to terms with the fact that it
is a new month yet. hence i proposed that the we'd meet on the 8th
when this happens, so my logic was ...

   if (meeting date = 1st of mth) {
   meet on 8th
   } else {
   meet on 1st thursday of mth
   }

someone simplified this to ...

   meetings are held on the day after the first wednesday of
   the month

i then partitioned for this change, but dave held valiantly against
myself and the other usual suspects (JS,DC,) - i was also at
some stage called `the heretic'

philip newton even gimped something up about this

however i then ``refused'' to recognise the real meetings if they
occured on the 1st, even though i may attend them

so it was decided whenever the meeting _should_ of been held on
the 8th we would have an additional meeting, named ``the heretics
meeting'', we had our first last month at the very fine anchor pub

last month we had a meal that was ok, but a bit pricey, however in
the anchor we found a nice open fire that was roaring away hapilly

and coupled with some really quite good beer we sat by the fire
talking and joking as usual

a good time was had by all by the fire, and so heretics meetings
from now on are going to be the same sort of cozy fireside chats

there will only be another 2 this year - this year has been a
very heretical year (3 meetings!)

ok, that makes everything crystal


Sorry, still don't get it!  Can I have it as a perl script?


are you sorry you asked?

Greg 





RE: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Jonathan Peterson

 
 Sorry, still don't get it!  Can I have it as a perl script?
 

err...

#!/usr/local/bin/perl
# find heretics meetings
my @ary = localtime();
print "meeting today!" if ($ary[6] ==4  $ary[3] 1  $ary[3] 9);


Possibly




RE: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Matthew Robinson

At 17:23 28/02/01 -, you wrote:
 
 Sorry, still don't get it!  Can I have it as a perl script?
 

err...

#!/usr/local/bin/perl
# find heretics meetings
my @ary = localtime();
print "meeting today!" if ($ary[6] ==4  $ary[3] 1  $ary[3] 9);


Possibly


OK, its 'meetings are held on the day after the first wednesday of the month'.

That makes perfect sense now,

Matt





Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Struan Donald

* at 28/02 17:37 + Michael Stevens said:
 On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 05:33:34PM +, Matthew Robinson wrote:
  OK, its 'meetings are held on the day after the first wednesday of the month'.
  That makes perfect sense now,
 
 I work on the "meetings are held whenever more than half the people
 on irc mention a pub" theory.

now i don't hang about on irc but if it's like the list then that's a
lot of meetings

struan



Re: Tech reviewing

2001-02-28 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton

David Cantrell [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*I've been approached to do some paid tech-reviewing, of a manual for a
*Linux security product.  I have *no* idea how I should charge for this,
*or indeed how much.  Does one usually do it per thousand words or
*something?

AW usually offers an honoraria of several hundred dollars for principal
reviewers of their books which, depending on the book, could be nothing in
exchange for your time if you do a lot of fact checking, etc. So,
depending on the publisher, it is mostly a labour of love and not
something you charge by the word. 

*It's basically making sure that it reads OK when translated into English
*by the German authors, and requires no knowledge of the product itself,
*but does - obviously - require some familiarity with the subject.

Think of it as adding to the pool of quality publications and see what
they are willing to offer. It really depends on the publisher.

Jarkko was very impressed with the quality of the German translator who
not only translated MAWP but made corrections as well and I imagine he was
well paid for it but that is a different role than just skim editing.

e.



Re: Tech reviewing

2001-02-28 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton

Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*
*I know in the publishing world people do things for ludicrously samll
*amounts, but thats because you can usually find a starving author that
*will do it for pennies, but if you assume that they need to know at least
*a little about the Linux security model then that kinda narrows it down a
*bit dunnit.

Well, for some of the more established academic publishers, there are a
lot more than 'starving authors' :) It's academic courtesy.

I misread the previoius as a book tech review for a publisher rather than
a software house but I don't know that you could charge all that much more
since 98% of the work is already done.

e.