Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Sat, 07 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Rob Partington wrote: I mostly like MacOS X, but it is way too resource hungry. I shouldn't need 64M to run a GUI and Unix comfortably, that's just crap. It's not just *any* GUI though, it's a GUI that does genie-in-a-bottle minimise/restore! Oh yes! hmm .. a bit too windows 98 for me I'm afraid .. personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) Thats one of my big dislikes about KDE .. the damm thing attempts to do some silly 'shrink' on a window outline as it minimises it .. when all I really want it to do is just clear off as fast as possible ... at least the menus appear instantly -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Class::MethodMaker
Gurlz,
OK .. I'm not totally up to speed on OO stuff .. but I have a
Class::MethodMaker question that I dont; seem to be able to understand
from the documentation.
its the 'key_with_create' bit ...
from my reading of the documentation, if you specify a
key_with_create = [ qw/ id / ],
it produces a get/set id method, and stores a refernce to all objects in
the class in a hash with the id value as a key. it also provides a
find_id method to look up the object in the hash and if there isnt one
call new to make one ..
now am I being daft or summink, but surely it should pass something to
new so it knows how to initialise this instance of the object ?? it
appears to pass absolutely nothing . I was rather hoping it would pass
{id = $id} or something so I could do the appropriate hash_init thing,
and construct the new object apropriately, but it appears to pass no
params at all ..
am I missing something ..
have I got the worng end of the stick??
--
Robin Szemeti
The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 08:22:39AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Rob Partington wrote: I mostly like MacOS X, but it is way too resource hungry. I shouldn't need 64M to run a GUI and Unix comfortably, that's just crap. It's not just *any* GUI though, it's a GUI that does genie-in-a-bottle minimise/restore! Oh yes! hmm .. a bit too windows 98 for me I'm afraid .. Oi! Watch it! That's grounds for a kicking almost :-) personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) It should be pointed out that a lot, if not all, of Mac OS X's graphical wizardry can be turned off, although admittedly Apple haven't necessarily included the tools to do so by default. But then as I keep saying, Mac OS X is a consumer OS especially to idi^H^H^Hmummies and daddies! The slow-mo genie effect whlst playing a quicktime movie (fast processors only need apply!) is a nice demonstration feature. At consumer evens it gets lots of ooohs and ahhhs. It however in't something that most same people would use day to day. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limites [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary (list!)
Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: This is the eleventh of hopefully many weekly summaries of the London Perl Mongers mailing list. For the week starting 2001-04-02: I've been asked repeatedly (mostly by Pete Berlin ;-) to set up a seperate list for the london-list weekly summary. That is, for those of you who want to keep up with London.pm, but don't necessarily want hundreds of mails a day. You can now do this, by subscribing to london-list-summary: http://www.astray.com/mailman/listinfo/london-list-summary Note that I'll still post the summary to london-list (for now at least). HTH, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... isopropyl sethylphosphonofluoridate
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
* at 09/04 16:09 +0100 dcross - David Cross said: snip/ p.s Next social meeting is on Thur 3rd May. Suggestions for venues would be most welcome. nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small hours generating tremendous hangovers :) struan
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. i'll do some more music for a bit. alex -- here they come lalalalala la lalalalala la the part time punks
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary (list!)
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 12:41:56PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Note that I'll still post the summary to london-list (for now at least). Why should you stop? You *can't* be worried about the traffic! :-) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Hat! Hat! Hat! - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. i recall promising to do 20 minutes on '101 fun things to do with Tangram', or something like that. am still happy to do this, but also happy to do less time if more people want to do longer talks. jo
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: might be nice to have status reports from: * The t-shirt committee There has been movement on this! I, however, will not be able to attend cos I have a visitor from the darker regions of the galaxy. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
At 19:16 09/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: might be nice to have status reports from: * The t-shirt committee There has been movement on this! I, however, will not be able to attend cos I have a visitor from the darker regions of the galaxy. I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else. Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
At 08:22 AM 9.4.2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote: personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) Alternate genie effects [for OSX] The "genie effect" is what happens when you click the yellow "minimize" button. You'll see your window get sucked down into the dock, as though it were being drawn into a funnel. While quite cool the first few times, some people (me!) have found it a little annoying after a while. Those with slower machines may also find it something of a CPU hog. Luckily, Apple included a way to change the genie effect, but chose not to put it into a GUI tool at this time. I'm sure someone will have one written within a week, but for now, here's how you do it. Open a terminal session (the Terminal application is inside Applications/Utilities), and type one of the following: defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect genie defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect suck defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect scale The "genie" option is normal behavior, "suck" is sort of hard to describe but it's more like a reverse twisted genie, and "scale" (my personal favorite) simply reduces the window equally from all sides while dropping it to the dock. The other nice thing about "scale" is that it's blindingly fast (on my G4/350, while the genie lags a bit), so windows vanish very quickly. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20010324091350279 Sounds like you want the 'scale' option. Playing around with this defaults command seems to be just a command line interface to corresponding xml config files, most of which seem to live in ~/Library/Preferences or /System/Library/Preferences, and most of which seem to have a .plist suffix. I haven't had the time to go very far with these, but it seems like you can control most of the behavior of the GUI from these config files if you know what you're doing. -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er... soon. Ummm forewarned is forearmed Nat and I might not be able to make this which means getting hold of the projector might be a problem :-( If someone wants to pop down to West Sussex to collect it they are more than welcome, unfortunately I'm not travelling into London as much as I was. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Chris Devers wrote: At 08:22 AM 9.4.2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote: personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting some graphical wizardry whilst chewing up CPU resources its not one of the things I lust after .. but YMMV :) Alternate genie effects [for OSX] The "genie effect" is what happens when you click the yellow "minimize" button. You'll see your window get sucked down into the dock, as though it were being drawn into a funnel. While quite cool the first few times, some people (me!) have found it a little annoying after a while. Those with slower machines may also find it something of a CPU hog. Luckily, Apple included a way to change the genie effect, but chose not to put it into a GUI tool at this time. I'm sure someone will have one written within a week, but for now, here's how you do it. Open a terminal session (the Terminal application is inside Applications/Utilities), and type one of the following: defaults write com.apple.Dock mineffect genie Java !!? /J\
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:03:35PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: [snip] Luckily, Apple included a way to change the genie effect, but chose not to put it into a GUI tool at this time. I'm sure someone will have one written within a week, but for now, here's how you do it. Open a terminal session (the Terminal [snip] Look for TinkerTool, GUI front-end not only to do this but to allow you to show the hidden directories in the Finder, put the Trash on the desktop, change the transprancy of Terminal windows and a whole lot more. Look on VersionTracker (http://www.versiontracker.com) or Stepwise (http://www.stepwise.com) for the latest version. Neil -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
At 22:10 09/04/2001, Neil Ford wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er... soon. Ummm forewarned is forearmed Nat and I might not be able to make this which means getting hold of the projector might be a problem :-( If someone wants to pop down to West Sussex to collect it they are more than welcome, unfortunately I'm not travelling into London as much as I was. Neil, Thanks for warning me. Does anyone want to take on the task of being projector monitor and picking it up from Sussex? Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Technical Meeting - 19th April
If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er... soon. Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. might be nice to have status reports from: * The t-shirt committee * The server committee * The camel visitation committee[2] As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three longer talks. Any questions? Dave... p.s Next social meeting is on Thur 3rd May. Suggestions for venues would be most welcome. [1] I know that some people raised objections to State 51 as a venue, but as I didn't get any other suggestions I didn't really have much choice :( [2] Bugger! That's me. -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
