Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-16 Thread Philip Newton

jo walsh wrote:
 i spose anyone who wants their own database should email me
 or alex about it

I think yesterday was the first time that I communicated with the same
person through email, write(1), and IRC, all in one day. Felt kind of
surreal :-)

Cheers,
Philip
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Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Robert Shiels

Is this a suitable place to talk about our server? I guess we should have a
separate mailing list for it eventually g

I was just wondering if we could make a list of things that have been
installed and services that are available. I would be willing to start a FAQ
and wish list if someone else isn't doing it already.

To start:

I'd like to be able to have a http://london.pm.org/~shiels web address, and
a cgi-bin directory.

I would like to have (at least) one mysql database to play with.

I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.

I doesn't make sense for us all to install things in our individual user
areas if we can share them instead.

There may of course be valid objections to doing some of the above, but it'd
be good if we had a dos and don'ts list in that case.

Thoughts?

--
Robert




Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:

 I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.


I think Meestah Cross has written something that does this, as have I and
I think that Tom Phoenix has released Inside now which is a properly
implemented way of doing same (I beta tested it for him and it worked
then).

/J\
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Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:26:27PM -, Robert Shiels typed:

I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.

http://www.perlfaq.com/faqs/id/205

Roger



RE: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Jonathan Peterson


 To start:

 I'd like to be able to have a http://london.pm.org/~shiels
 web address, and
 a cgi-bin directory.

 I would like to have (at least) one mysql database to play with.

 I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.


Why don't we just install all of CPAN to begin with? We are a pm group no?

And can we have password based SSH(or whatever we have to call it now) as
well as PK based ?

And




Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Robert Shiels

From: "Jonathan Stowe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 February 2001 15:40
Subject: Re: Penderel Configuration


 On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
 
  I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.
 

 I think Meestah Cross has written something that does this, as have I and
 I think that Tom Phoenix has released Inside now which is a properly
 implemented way of doing same (I beta tested it for him and it worked
 then).

Cool - perhaps we could have the output of one of these sent to the website
automatically every night...

--
/Robert




Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Robin Houston

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:26:27PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
 
 I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.

Add this handy alias to your ~/.bashrc and you'll be able to
find out whenever you like :-)

alias lsmodules='perldoc -m perllocal | perl -nle '\''print $1 if /L(.*?)/'\'' | 
sort -u | column'

Output follows.

 .robin.

Apache::AuthCookie  Digest::MD5 Parse::Yapp
Apache::DB  Getopt::LongSet::Object
Apache::DBI HTML::ParserStorable
Apache::Reload  HTML::TagsetTangram
Apache::SandwichlibapreqTemplate
Apache::Session libwww-perl Text::Autoformat
Apache::Stage   libxml-enno Tie::IxHash
AppConfig   libxml-perl URI
CGI MIME::Base64XML::Parser
Data::ShowTable mod_perlXML::RSS
Date::Manip Msql-Mysql-modules  XML::XPath
DBI Net
Devel::Symdump  Net::IRC



RE: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread jo walsh


  I'd like to be able to have a http://london.pm.org/~shiels
  web address, and
  a cgi-bin directory.

k i can do the ~/public_html thing and sort this out is that the best way?
or there is a group of web users who can write to the docroot if you
prefer (both?)

  I would like to have (at least) one mysql database to play with.

mysql is installed and should be running, i spose anyone who wants their
own database should email me or alex about it

  I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.

 Why don't we just install all of CPAN to begin with? We are a pm group no?

this is a good idea.

 And can we have password based SSH(or whatever we have to call it now) as
 well as PK based ?

no problems, is enabled. call us at state51 or start a 'talk' session on
the box, i guess, and get told a password

sorry about continuing absence of mailman

jo





RE: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Gareth . Harper

I notice you don't have Symbol::Approx::Sub installed ;)

On a side note, now I've figured out how to send proper plain text mail,
anyone know how I can tell outlook to prefix replies with  or likewise ??

Thanks Gareth


-Original Message-
From: Robin Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 February 2001 15:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Penderel Configuration


On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:26:27PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:

 I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.

Add this handy alias to your ~/.bashrc and you'll be able to
find out whenever you like :-)

alias lsmodules='perldoc -m perllocal | perl -nle '\''print $1 if
/L(.*?)/'\'' | sort -u | column'

Output follows.

 .robin.

Apache::AuthCookie  Digest::MD5 Parse::Yapp
Apache::DB  Getopt::LongSet::Object
Apache::DBI HTML::ParserStorable
Apache::Reload  HTML::TagsetTangram
Apache::SandwichlibapreqTemplate
Apache::Session libwww-perl Text::Autoformat
Apache::Stage   libxml-enno Tie::IxHash
AppConfig   libxml-perl URI
CGI MIME::Base64XML::Parser
Data::ShowTable mod_perlXML::RSS
Date::Manip Msql-Mysql-modules  XML::XPath
DBI Net
Devel::Symdump  Net::IRC



Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Steve Mynott

Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
 
  I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed.
 
 
 I think Meestah Cross has written something that does this, as have I and
 I think that Tom Phoenix has released Inside now which is a properly
 implemented way of doing same (I beta tested it for him and it worked
 then).

surely just

$ perldoc perllocal

?

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there are several good protections against temptation, but the surest is
 cowardice.  -- mark twain



RE: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Andrew Bowman

 From: Michael Stevens [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Tools - Options - Preferences - E-mail Options
...
 (This is Microsoft Outlook 2000 SR-1 Corporate or Workgroup)

Outlook 98 and Outlook Express also have this feature. Outlook 97 (my
current employer's choice) doesn't (so the above quoting is manually
inserted - I should be thankful that the Exchange server here is at least
configured to squash HTML/RTF email into plain text).

It may be heresy to admit it around here (come on then MuttCarroll!), but I
actually quite like Outlook Express (as distinct from Outlook) as a mail
client. Once it's configured to disable scripting etc. it's biggest flaw,
aside from its provenance in Redmond, is that it doesn't seem possible to
disable the display of HTML email - which is kind of annoying given the
opportunity this offers to spammers etc. to track the display of email.
Maybe it's not so good after all ;-)

Andrew.




Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread David Cantrell

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:33:00PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:

 The ~/public_html is what I had in mind, this should be fairly easy to turn
 on in httpd.conf, although when I looked it seemed like it was already
 configured, but I couldn't get mine to work.

The web user needs read access to your home directory as well as to
~/public_html for this to work.  IIRC, this isn't the case on penderel.

   Why don't we just install all of CPAN to begin with? We are a pm group
 no?
 
  this is a good idea.
 We have enough disk space (just !), so I agree totally.

Have fun with all the binary dependencies :-)  Or are you talking about
having a CPAN mirror, which is an entirely different water-boiling-device
of pisceans.

 I expect there is
 even a way to keep this up-to-date automatically. I would find this really
 great as a major hindrance to me trying out scripts I 'find' is usually that
 I can't be bothered installing the 1/2 dozen or so modules that need to be
 installed first.

Some would consider this to be a good thing :-)

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Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Philip Newton

jo walsh wrote:
 mysql is installed and should be running,

Seems not to be.

quote
[pne@penderel pne]$ mysql
ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
'/tmp/mysql.sock' (111)
[pne@penderel pne]$ date
Thu Feb 15 16:41:25 GMT 2001
/quote

Cheers,
Philip



Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:21:34PM -, Andrew Bowman wrote:
 It may be heresy to admit it around here (come on then MuttCarroll!), but I
 actually quite like Outlook Express (as distinct from Outlook) as a mail
 client. Once it's configured to disable scripting etc. it's biggest flaw,
 aside from its provenance in Redmond, is that it doesn't seem possible to
 disable the display of HTML email - which is kind of annoying given the
 opportunity this offers to spammers etc. to track the display of email.
 Maybe it's not so good after all ;-)

HTML email is bad.  In this weeks LWN letters page, there's a cute
letter from Alan Cox explaining how you don't need JS enabled to get
tricked.  If you look for "HTML email privacy" at:

http://lwn.net/2001/0215/letters.php3

Related, there's a lovely little tidbit in this months Crypto-Gram,
about how you can be caught out.  Crypto-Gram should be available as:

http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0102.html

But, that doesn't seem to be available yet.  I got mine from:

http://lwn.net/daily/crypto-gram.php3

The interesting bit is the section "A Semantic Attack on URLs".

-Dom



RE: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I notice you don't have Symbol::Approx::Sub installed ;)

 On a side note, now I've figured out how to send proper plain text mail,
 anyone know how I can tell outlook to prefix replies with  or likewise ??


In Outlook menu - Tools/Options select Mail Format tab ... thoug I still
havent worked out how to get it to not put the silly header bit ...

/J\
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RE: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Jonathan Peterson

  
   this is a good idea.
  We have enough disk space (just !), so I agree totally.

 Have fun with all the binary dependencies :-)  Or are you
 talking about
 having a CPAN mirror, which is an entirely different
 water-boiling-device
 of pisceans.


Oh no, CPAN mirror is bring, I'm talking about installing all the
CPAN modules. Of course some of them do depend on other unbundled software,
but we can skip those.




Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

 HTML email is bad.  In this weeks LWN letters page, there's a cute
 letter from Alan Cox explaining how you don't need JS enabled to get
 tricked.  If you look for "HTML email privacy" at:


I've always been *enabled* whaddya talking about ...

/J\
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