Re: [LUAU] rsync question
The files are only removed when —delete is passed. Let’s verify:
foo$ mkdir src dst
foo$ touch src/{1,2,3,4,5}
foo$ rsync -av src/ dst/
building file list ... done
./
1
2
3
4
5
sent 328 bytes received 136 bytes 928.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00
foo$ rm src/{1,3,5}
foo$ rsync -av src/ dst/
building file list ... done
./
sent 101 bytes received 26 bytes 254.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00
foo$ ls -1 src
2
4
foo$ ls -1 dst
1
2
3
4
5
foo$ rsync -av --delete src/ dst/
building file list ... done
deleting 5
deleting 3
deleting 1
./
sent 101 bytes received 26 bytes 254.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00
foo$ ls -1 dst
2
4
foo$
-Vince
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On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Brian Chee c...@hawaii.edu wrote:
I thought so too, but all the docs I've been finding seems to indicate that
it deleteswhich doesn't work for me.
Brian chee
On Aug 27, 2014 6:34 PM, Dwight Victor (Gmail) dwight.vic...@gmail.com
wrote:
isn't the default behavior to keep files on the target? i think you have
to use the --delete option to force delete from the target.
So I'm trying to find if rsync has an option to NOT delete remote files if
they're no longer on the local machine.
The issue is that I can't afford to lose any data off my sensors. I've got
the remote server mounted in fstab so that it looks like two local
directories.
I want to make sure everything in the local directory is copied and synced
(updated) to the remote. But if someone deletes a file on the local
machine
but the file exists on the remote side, I don't want that remote file
deleted.
I've been searching like crazy, but rsync always seems to want to delete
the remote file.
Should I consider something other than rsync?
/brian chee
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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?
Brian, That stratum-1 Rasberry Pi project is really cool. Jeff, http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/us You can list multiple servers and get your time normalized between all of them. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] my list presence restoration....?
Ben, As Peter mentioned, your message was distributed to the list. It is archived here: http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/pipermail/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org/2011-November/019261.html I think the simplest explanation is you had previously subscribed with an old address. Make sure your preferred e-mail address is subscribed so you can post. The list is configured to block non-subscribers and delete the queued message after 1 day. -Vince On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Peter Besenbruch pe...@besenbruch.info wrote: On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:31:56 -1000 Ben Timmerman bentn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not expecting this to get posted/disseminated to the list...except to the movers and shakers who decide who can and cannot be a list member. Well, it did. If you get this, it means you are still signed up. ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] IP address on Cable
On Mar 3, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote Does anyone on the list have experience with a firewall on an Oceanic cable feed? Linux or Freebsd is what I use,.but I only have experience with firewalls on Telcom lines. IP is IP. It doesn't matter if your provider hands you cable, DSL, Ethernet or wireless; you protect it the same way. I am trying to help a guy with a Windows 7 box. He has netflix on this cable too so it may have a fixed IP. He gets attacked a lot with viruses and other weirdness even with Norton on the box. Any suggestions appreciated. If you have a gateway that does NAT, you are shielded from most of the network based attacks. However, I see most malware through compromised sites and ads, via the web these days. I'll second Jon's suggestion of FireFox/NoScript for tech savvy folks. For others, start with an ad blocker and Chrome if Win7/IE8 doesn't seem to be doing the trick. My best suggestion is to have 1 PC that has no network access or is only used to visit financial sites and a 2nd PC for recreational use. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] Unconference 2011
http://unconferenz2011.eventbrite.com/ The Unconferenz mantra is to *Invent : Inspire : Innovate*. It's a grassroots Technology/Internet gathering of individuals across the community to foster sharing and interaction amongst its participants. The Unconferenz is really what you make it. Feel free to join the conversation and help develop the Unconferenz 2011 agendahttp://www.techhui.com/group/unconferenz/forum/topics/topics-for-unconferenz-2011 . **Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011 *Time:* 8:00am to 4:00pm *Place:* Windward Community College 45-720 Keaahala Road, Kaneohe *Attendance:* 80 – 100 Limited *Cost: * - *Option 1: Free *(We are keeping the cost down this year and won't be offering a t-shirt and lunch will be available for purchase) - *Option 2: Donation* (Donations of any amount are welcome. This will help to cover the morning coffee and snacks and any miscellaneous expenses.) *Format:* Open Grid, Ignite Session, Internet+Tech, 45 minute sessions *Rules:* No talking heads, we want participation, sharing and interaction. Product discussions are encouraged especially if it is the creator, designer or principal innovator. *Objectives for the Unconferenz:* 1. Be a catalyst 2. Create an environment for sharing 3. Provide support for people and innovation. 4. Networking 5. Start a movement *Session Schedule:* Please arrive early. We only have 45 min to complete registration and session sign up. 8:00am - 8:45amRegistration and session sign up 9:00am - 9:50amSession 1 10:00am - 10:50amSession 2 11:00am - 11:50amSession 3 12:00 noon - 1:00pm Lunch 1:15pm - 2:05pmSession 4 2:15pm - 3:05pmSession 5 3:15pm - 4:00pm Wrap up *Session Topics (Draft):* 1. GeoLocation applications 2. HTML 5 3. Personal Informatics 4. Gadgets Show and Tell 5. Hobby robotics 6. Entrepreneurial startup *Lunch:* I've invited the folks at @OnotoGo lunch wagon to provide the lunch at the Unconferenz 2011. They are providing the lunch bentos for $7.00 apiece. When registering please select a lunch option. This is so Wedge Lee knows how many lunchs to make. You can pay for lunch at the Unconferenz. *For More Information:* Unconferenz.com http://unconferenz.com/ - Unconferenz 2011 Website Techhui.com/group/unconferenz/ http://www.techhui.com/group/unconferenz/ - Forum and discussion on session topics -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] RSync help
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM, James Handsel jhand...@lava.net wrote: Got it, thanks. I'll give it a try. Any idea what the oldest version of rsync is, that supports this format? I think version 2.6.0 from 01 JAN 2004. http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-2.6.0-NEWS NEWS for rsync 2.6.0 (1 Jan 2004) Protocol: 27 (changed) Changes since 2.5.7: ENHANCEMENTS: * ssh is now the default remote shell for rsync. If you want to change this, configure like this: ./configure --with-rsh=rsh. I hope you have a good reason for using a version that old. :) -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] RSync help
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:29 PM, James Handsel jhand...@lava.net wrote: I'm syncing daily activity from the office server to a remote server, and then running the backup on the remote server. But the fact that rsync runs as nobody on the office server creates issues syncing files that nobody doesn't have permission to access. All the doc's I've read seem to suggest that rsync can be run via ssh as root, but I'm clearly missing something. Is it your experience that rsync will always run as nobody? and does it make any difference if rsync is pushing or pulling the data? The errors are in your rsyncd.conf. Remove it and try to backup from only the command line, then put that in your scripts. Here's an example that works with [recent versions] of rsync. It autodetects that SSH is needed: rsync -a root@remoteserver:/opt/ /backup/opt/ If you run that as root, then the UID/GID for the remote files will be preserved. If you run as a non-root user, you still can read as root, but you write out files as the local backup user. Should that fail, increase your verbosity: rsync -av --progress -e ssh -v root@remoteserver:/opt/ /backup/opt/ -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] RSync help
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, James Handsel jhand...@lava.net wrote: Sorry for the slow follow up, here are all the relevant files . . . There's a fair amount of extraneous info, but I left everything intact, in case it comes into play. For complex backups, rather than write your own script, you might want to try these tools instead: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ Right now my big question is why does rsync run as nobody on the (office) server I am pulling the sync from. Also, ANY pointers for increasing efficiency or eloquence would be welcome. Rsyncd runs as nobody by default to reduce the odds of you exposing sensitives to the world. If you want to write your own script, I'd suggest disabling rsyncd and try to stuff all your options into the shell script. You should be able to read all files as root. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] RSync help
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Clifton Royston clift...@iandicomputing.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 04:24:42PM -1000, James Handsel wrote: Anybody out there good w/rsync? I'm using it to sync data between an office and a remote server and then running a backup on the remote server and could use some help working out the kinks. Can you post your script to the list or a pastebin so we can better see what you are trying to do? That part gets to be a pain and I have to figure it out again each time. However it's more of an ssh issue than an rsync issue; when you can log in from the backup account on the sending server to the backup account on the remote machine without needing to type more than ssh, it'll work unattended for rsync. You can pass custom ssh keys to rsync using -e. If you don't mind a level of abstraction, you can preconfigure your ssh settings into your ~/.ssh/config file and only specify the host on your rsync line. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Netgate and pfSense
On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Clifton Royston clift...@lava.net wrote: I see one of the vendors the pfSense people recommend is Netgate, for PC-Engine ALIX boards and cases. Is that Jim Thompson's Netgate? That would be a plus if so. Netgate is Jim's company. I added him to the bcc. I used m0n0wall, the pfSense precursor, on Soekris with success on single WAN uplinks. Let us know how the dual uplink configuration goes! -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Using a 3rd party DNS providers effects routing from CDN's?
I'd prefer the node with the best overall throughput, even if the latency may be worse. If the throughput is better, I suppose you could run your own DNS server. With BIND, you can configure zone-based forwarders to query akamai.netaddresses directly and default the rest of your queries to Google or OpenDNS. http://www.isc.org/files/arm96.html *zone* Statement Definition and Usage Zone Types forward A forward zone is a way to configure forwarding on a per-domain basis. A * zone* statement of type *forward* can contain a *forward* and/or *forwarders * statement, which will apply to queries within the domain given by the zone name. If no *forwarders* statement is present or an empty list for * forwarders* is given, then no forwarding will be done for the domain, canceling the effects of any forwarders in the *options* statement. Thus if you want to use this type of zone to change the behavior of the global * forward* option (that is, forward first to, then forward only, or vice versa, but want to use the same servers as set globally) you need to re-specify the global forwarders. Happy New Year! -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] Hawaii centric domain names
Does anyone have a list of Hawaii domain names, large or small, handy? Domains like hawaii.rr.com, honolulu.gov, k12.hi.us, lava.net, etc. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] embedding JavaScript
Any C++ hackers out there? I'm toying with the idea of working on a tool that embeds multiple JavaScript engines for malware analysis. Firefox's build tools makes it pretty easy to build a stand alone JS engine that you can feed files to parse a file at a time, but the embedding examples look very daunting. Embedding Chrome's V8 engine looks more doable. I have the V8 engine compiled as a library, but need the C++ chops to do some basic file parsing and calling V8 properly. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Contact for HIX
Any luck? Whois reports this contact: OrgTechHandle: ZU32-ARIN OrgTechName: University of Hawaii OrgTechPhone: +1-808-521-2879 OrgTechEmail: netcont...@hawaii.edu OrgTechRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZU32-ARIN -Vince On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Matt Darnell mattdarn...@gmail.com wrote: Aloha, We are having some serious issues with the router at 205.166.205.196 It is not passing traffic to our subnetthis is affecting road runner Haw Tel connections. Our IP's are reachable from places like ping.eu Does anyone have a contact number for someone at HIX? I have sent emails to netw...@hawaii.edu. Thanks for your help. Aloha, Matt ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] eWaste event - Saturday, October 30 from 9:00am to 3:00 pm
Be sure to zero out your HDs with DBAN (http://www.dban.org/) before disposing. Via @hawaii (Ryan Ozawa): http://www.hawaii.edu/ewaste/ Welcome to the Public information page for Hawai‘i’s Biennial Education Government eWaste Disposal Days 2010, sponsored by the University of Hawai‘i. We're glad that you've taken this first step with us in reducing pollution through earth-friendly disposal of your unwanted end-of-life electronics in an environmentally safe manner, regardless of the manufacturer, free of charge. If you represent a public or private school or university; any City, County, State or Federal/Military branches in Hawai‘i, a small to medium sized business (of less than 100 employees) or a non-profit that wishes to dispose of ewaste through this program please visit the Institutional registration page for details. Guidelines for Participation This program is open for Hawai‘i household residents who wish to dispose of personal ewaste on Saturday, October 30 from 9:00am to 3:00 pm; no need for households to register. Residents may drive in to one of six drop off locations on The Big Island, Kaua‘i, Maui, or Oahu to recycle their personal end-of-life electronics. Please click on a site below to view a printable map to its drop-off location. Also, review the list of acceptable ewaste items before you drive to any of the drop-off sites located at: University of Hawai‘i at Hilo John A. Burns School of Medicine (JABSOM) Kaua‘i Community College Leeward Community College University of Hawai‘i Maui College Windward Community College Kealakehe High School (Kona) -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Web APIs
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Mark Johnson johns...@gmail.com wrote: We are starting development on an API for our platform, and learning from the big guys (twitter, facebook, linkedin). Sounds like they are all moving towards OAuth 2.0. We will be developing an OAuth 2 server/provider as well as writing several clients (to connect with da big guys). We plan to open source a few of the clients (probably twitter, facebook) - all will be developed in ruby. Anyone else playing with OAuth 2? Would be great to swap notes - It looks like there is a lot in flux with the libraries. Not sure how much this will help you as a provider, but I'm looking at OmniAuth next: http://intridea.com/2010/10/4/omniauth-flexible-authentication-for-rack. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] Trouble-Maker - intentionally breaking your OS
http://trouble-maker.sourceforge.net/ This might be useful for folks learn better than fixing things that are broken or want to prepare for the RHCE. Let me know what you think or know of other projects that resemble this. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Web APIs
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:23 AM, R. Scott Belford sc...@belford.net wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Vince Hoang vi...@litrium.com wrote: Is anyone dabbling with web APIs? I started exploring http://dev.twitter.com/ with ruby tonight. I am. The data made available via their API has the most potential of Twitter. Before he left, Alex Payne put a lot into its utilitarian functionality. It's this statistical stew that is their wealth. What kind of fun are you having with the data? Nothing exciting... yet. I'm mostly trying to get a better understanding of the APIs to potentially create feeds from non-web2.0 savy sites and on the appsec side, see how applications are implemented poorly. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Web APIs
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Vince Hoang vi...@litrium.com wrote: I have been working with Django, which i guess is really more of a framework than an api. It's Python based and has been fun to use for a couple of projects. For perfectionists with deadlines? There are a few Django fans on list. I bought the book, watched some webcasts from Adrian Holovaty and Jacob Kaplan-Moss, made 'Hello, world!' off of the subversion repository and stopped there. Are they projects you would like to share? -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] Web APIs
Is anyone dabbling with web APIs? I started exploring http://dev.twitter.com/ with ruby tonight. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] HOSEF mirror access via FTP?
My 2 guesses are you are running into some active/passive FTP chicanery or trying to hit the IPv6 address and not falling back on the IPv4 address. -Vince 2010/4/25 Brian Chee c...@hawaii.edu Ok kewl...but to get the .iso into the VMWare system (without the GUI making my life miserable) I need traditional FTP from the command lineso if HOSEF's mirror has this, what address do I use? Mirrors.hosef.org and ftp.hosef.org refuse connection from my FTP client. /brian chee ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] software appliances
Is anyone building software appliances? On the small end, I have been building VMs based on Debian to keep things lean but I'm taking a closer look at the Ubuntu-based JeOS and TurnKey Linux to make them more portable. TurnKey does use webmin and thus perl, so I'm not sure if I can overcome my old biases. :) -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] OpenSSH 5.4 release
http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-5.4 The changelog has a lot of items but what stuck out the most is that SSH 1 is now off by default. I'm wondering a bit about what distros will take a similar stance, since SSH 2 has been out for a very long time. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] Fwd: [Bytemarks] Unconferenz 2010 schedule
There is still time to sign up. See you there! -Vince Begin forwarded message: From: Burt Lum Date: February 23, 2010 22:19:00 HST To: bytemarks@ Subject: [Bytemarks] Unconferenz 2010 schedule Reply-To: bytema...@yahoogroups.com I just posted this planned schedule on the Unconferenz ning site at: http://unconferenz.ning.com Please come early as we have 45 minutes to register and layout the session schedule. The first session will start at 9am. 8:00am - 8:45am Registration and session sign up (Cafeteria-Ohia) 9:00am - 9:50am Session 1 (Kalia) 10:00am - 10:50am Session 2 (Kalia) 11:00am - 11:50am Session 3 (Kalia) 12:00 noon - 1:00pm Lunch (Cafeteria) 1:15pm - 2:05pm Session 4 (Kalia) 2:15pm - 3:05pm Session 5 (Kalia) 3:15pm - 4:00pm Wrap up (Cafeteria-Ohia) __._,_.___ __,_._,___ ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Favorite SATA or PATA RAID controllers
Are there options besides 3ware? -Vince On Feb 10, 2010, at 12:22, Brian Chee c...@hawaii.edu wrote: I need to mirror (RAID 1) and was wondering about the collective option on PCI RAID controllers These are going into 1RU SuperMicro machines that tend to run hotso that is a bit of a consideration. I’d like to use the same RAID controlle r for both Windows 2003 Server AND Debian Linux both... /brian chee -- Brian Chee University of Hawai'i at Manoa School of Ocean and Earth Sciences and Technology (SOEST) 2525 Correa Road, HIG 500 Honolulu, HI 96822 Tel: 808-956-5797 ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Honolulu WiFi antenna sales?
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:44 PM, R. Scott Belford sc...@belford.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Vince Hoang vi...@litrium.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Brian Chee c...@hawaii.edu wrote: So does anyone stock and sell 2.4ghz panel antennas in Honolulu? I¹m looking for something in the 65 to 90 degree spread with at around 12dbi of gain hopefully with N connectors on it. It needs to be pole mounted so I would also need a mounting kit. I need it quick so if I can¹t find a Honolulu dealer that has them, I gotta send my bucks to the mainland. You could ask Jim with Netgate, and you may want to check with Wilson Chan with the City. Nam Vu of Shakanet might also have some ideas. They deploy a lot of hardware and both have sources. Brian is in contact with Jim. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Honolulu WiFi antenna sales?
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Brian Chee c...@hawaii.edu wrote: So does anyone stock and sell 2.4ghz panel antennas in Honolulu? I¹m looking for something in the 65 to 90 degree spread with at around 12dbi of gain hopefully with N connectors on it. It needs to be pole mounted so I would also need a mounting kit. I need it quick so if I can¹t find a Honolulu dealer that has them, I gotta send my bucks to the mainland. Have you asked Jim at Netgate? He might have some on island. I don't think he rejoined the list after the Great Debacle. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] Aloha on Rails
http://www.alohaonrails.com/ Is anyone on the list going? Let me know on or off list. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Relocating to Maui, Social networking
Hi! On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Mike Luther lut...@psylicon.net wrote: Sorry to bring some only vaguely Linux oriented conversation into the mix, but I'm an oldschool Linux user and all around professional Unix Operations guy who is in the planning stages of a move to Maui. Basically I'm looking for someone on-island who can give me a view into (the existence of?) any semblance of LUG or Unix users group on Maui... whether within UH, MHPCC, etc.. or IS this that group? LUAU is mostly a mailing list these days.There hasn't been much interest and time in organizing any regular meetings. Very few non-HOSEF (a FOSS-based charity) meetups happened after MPLUG (an Oahu LUG) folded. I think most of the LUAU membership is based on Oahu. A few folks from the Big Island are/were subscribed. I hope some Maui locals chime in so you can organize something. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Luau lists ?
The LUAU list has traditionally been quiet, before and after the move. I moved the LUAU list from hosef.org to freesoftwarehawaii.org this summer, but the old list is still live. You can read up on the old archives around spring of this year to get a little insight, but it is not something I want to rehash anytime soon. That said, http://mirrors.hosef.org/ has been rebuilt. Scott did all the work but I am looking to help out where I can. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] on meet ups
I help host the list but member participation such as user group meetings are up to you. Let me know what you want to do and the information can be hosted on freesoftwarehawaii.org. If you are interested in socializing in real life more than the *nix crowd can offer, check out Flickr Friday, Honolulu Coders and Manoa Geeks for starters. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] did everyone patch their DNS servers?
If you couldn't, here are ways to randomize your source port to help mitigate the attack with iptables or pf: http://cipherdyne.org/blog/2008/07/mitigating-dns-cache-poisoning-attacks-with-iptables.html http://blog.spoofed.org/2008/07/mitigating-dns-cache-poisoning-with-pf.html -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] list maintenance
The old hosef.org is being cleaned out. Membership on the freesoftwarehawaii.org will remain unaffected. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] list move to freesoftwarehawaii.org
We are finishing up the move to http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/. The archives are alive and well here: http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/pipermail/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org/ Let me know if you encounter problems. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] list move to freesoftwarehawaii.org
No, that is not necessary. The entire membership list was migrated. -Vince On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Al Plant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aloha Vince Does this require us to resubscribe or something? ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] Fedora Hawaii 2008 - Tuesday, June 3rd, 2008 6:00pm
Follow the link. It is wonderfully concise. -Vince -- Forwarded message -- From: R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:38 PM Subject: Announcing Warren for Next Week To: Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julian Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case this announcement does not make it to you or to the LUAU list in a timely manner, you may want to share this. Warren will be speaking on Tuesday. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/FedoraHawaii2008 ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] HOSEF Mirrors offline?
Scott took them offline for maintenance. You might want to contact him off list to see what his plans are for it. -Vince On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Wilson Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't been able to access mirrors.hosef.org the last few weeks. Is the rebuild finally happening on the new hdds? -Wilson ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
[LUAU] Fwd: Bad Random Number Generator
-- Forwarded message -- From: R. Scott Belford Date: Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM Subject: Bad Random Number Generator One of you may want to post something to LUAU about the Debian/Ubuntu ssh/ssl issue. If you think anyone uses it, you may also want to let it be known that the mirrors will be taken down for maintenance. --scott ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] Anybody interested in on-island Red Hat (RHCE) training?
http://www.pcatt.org/pcatt/partners/redhat.html Red Hat does have representation here. PCATT has been part of the Red Hat Academy for several years now. The main instructor got a perfect score when he took the RHCE exam. It may be slower paced than you might like, especially if you have to drive into Honolulu twice a week if/when the classes run. The worst part is the demand is low, so the classes do not run often, at least when I checked last. -Vince On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:12 PM, John Call [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ https://www.redhat.com/courses/rh300_rhce_rapid_track_course_and_rhce_exam/ So -- not to be too wordy -- I'm asking, would anybody on island be interested in participating in the RH300 / RHCE course if it were hosted at BYUH? My idea is that anybody interested in attending would pay about 1/6 the total cost ($2,396.11). Please keep in mind that the RH300 course is a 5-day course, four days of lecture and one day of certification testing (Mon - Fri). Thanks, John ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] Is this list still alive...
If you review the archives, the volume was pretty low before the storm as well. Most of the traffic before came from Jim and Scott. What sort of activity do you want to see now? Michael tried kick starting things with his Django presentation. I registered freesoftwarehawaii.org to potentially move away from hosef.org. I am willing to step down as moderator as well if it means discussions improve. -Vince On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:47 AM, John Call [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to the list -- I think I subscribed just after some things happened. Too bad. I hope to see some activity return to the list. ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] list moderation
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Ronald Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you explain what's involved? Are you referring to administration of the LUAU Mailman list on Dreamhost? I am adding you now. -Vince PS. I am cleaning out some membership addresses that have mail disabled due to bounced addresses. ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] list moderation
My moderation actions have been undone. The archives are public. No posted have been redacted. The people I removed from the list have asked not to be resubscribed but they are free to rejoin. Can someone else volunteer to take the helm now? -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] list moderation
You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation. Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want what is best for HOSEF, but your strong personalities prevent you from finding common ground. You idea of containment does not work in the Internet age. I tried keeping this venue open in your defense. By closing off both hosef-managers and LUAU, the disagreement will spill elsewhere, and likely where you will not be able to retract the discussion. If any subscribers disagree, let me know. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] list moderation
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Gary Sublett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince asked for input from list members and I provided mine. Thanks. I would appreciate suggestions on alternatives that would achieve the goal of keeping personal attacks off list. I want HOSEF content back on hosef-managers, but it is the personal attacks that triggered my [extreme] reaction. You advocate stronger moderation, I disagree. Had there not been the reported moderation (censorship) on the HOSEF managers list would we be discussing this? +1. Sounds hypocritical doesn't it? I don't like what I did but feel emergency moderation would have been worse. I don't want heavy moderation and tried repeatedly on list and off list to get the flames down. (They are still going quite heavily off list and I don't think that will change soon.) In a few days, we will need to look into me relinquishing my moderator bit and/or moving the list to another domain. Lots of people need to grow up, myself included. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] HOSEF
This is progress. Thank you. Is it possible to move this off of LUAU? I suggest removing moderation on hosef-managers, flip the archive from public to private and attempt to reach a compromise. I would even suggest we consider redaction of messages that contain personal attacks. I am skeptical that the Scott and the board can reach an agreement, so I am still hoping for a fork(). -Vince On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (In turn, I'll public apologize to Scott here and now for my part in the escalation.) ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
[LUAU] list archive changes
I just changed the list archives from public to private. I hope to switch it back to public once things die down. Scott, I strongly recommend you remove emergency moderation and do the same. The discussions belong on hosef-managers but will continue to leak out to LUAU if you do not. The private archives will keep the search engines from caching posts people might regret having written. We can work on redacting later. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] Hello - My Name is Scott
Stop adding fuel to the fire. Anyone that cares knows the situation. There is no need to rehash. Help move this conversation forward. Drop the emergency moderation and take it to hosef-managers. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
[LUAU] list moderation
Let me know if you want my to give up moderation of the list and hand it to Scott. It is currently hosted on lists.hosef.org right now. I use moderation in quotes because I have tried very, very hard not to resort to heavy moderation and instead try to convince others to self-moderate. If you want me to continue to moderate, we will likely have to move the lists away from hosef.org and over to a new domain like freesoftwarehawaii.org. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] HOSEF
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question becomes, What is the better path? Is it better to leave and minimize personal liability, or is it better to stand and face the wrath of someone now used to getting their way? In spirit and time, Scott == HOSEF. I simply do not see HOSEF succeeding without him. Unfortunately, he choose to not give himself any voting rights on the board and set himself up for legal anguish. That was a huge mistake and I hope that he pulls through and fixes it. (I would prefer he proceed without a board to avoid future conflicts like this, even if it means dropping the non-profit status.) To be blunt? Take the high road and leave. Why fight and drag this on instead of redirecting your precious time and energy positively? Start something new and possibly better. Compete with Scott in a friendly way for mind share. You have good ideas that can complement HOSEF and Scott's efforts. I already registered a domain for this, unless you can think of something better than freesoftwarehawaii.org. If you have the time, the kuokoa distribution project could become its cornerstone. If a watch has a broken mainspring, you can restore the watch to functionality by replacing the spring. Much like your eWaste stance, get a new watch. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] Mail Back: USPS to recycle (some) e-waste free of charge
I suggest you drop this last paragraph and send it to hosef-managers. The discourse belongs there. If your message lacks personal attacks, it should be let through. (This should not imply that I condone the moderation.) -Vince On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't post this discussion to hosef-managers, because Scott has erected himself as moderator of that list, and has already chosen to reject messages at his whim. ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-hosef.org
Re: [LUAU] high performance SCP/SSH
On 2/17/08, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me the result (to www.netgate.com) was 706385 so I get a very nice boost from this patch: downstream bandwidth: 5Mbps or 5,000,000 bps rss as measured by ping: 141.277ms, or 0.141277 Has anyone else tried the HPN-SSH patches? -Vince (If anyone wants to continue with the anti-OpenBSD sub-thread, please move it to http://reddit.com/r/programming/info/68smc/comments/ under lalaland4711) ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] help on port 25
On 11/9/07, goku ball z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes I tried everthing telnet domain.com 25 telnet host.domain.com 25 telnet mail.domain.com 25 the only thing that works is telnet localhost 25 =( My best guess is the default install has postfix only listening on localhost. Check the inet_interfaces option in main.cf. A `netstat -an | grep :25` or `lsof -ni TCP:25` will tell you if postfix is actually binding to more than localhost on tcp/25. Quoting goku ball z : sorry Jon, for security reason, I changed the ip address and the domain The problem with you masking your IP and domain name for security reasons creates problems for those trying to help you. If your DNS is wrong we cannot explicitly tell you what is wrong. Here is a very good Postfix book: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Postfix-State-Art-Transport/dp/1593270011/ and a good DNS book: http://www.amazon.com/DNS-BIND-5th-Cricket-Liu/dp/0596100574 and a good Linux book: http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Administration-Handbook-2nd-Nemeth/dp/0131480049 -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] how resilient is linux with repeated cold reboots?
On 10/30/07, Charles Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had Linux installs in the past which eventually took the long sleep from being cold booted too many times, but the newer distros seem pretty resilient. Still, the machine is dying and being restarted many times per day, sometimes many times per hour, as I tinker with the DSP code on the board trying to fix the problem. Try to work towards making as much of the file system read only as possible and isolating the writes into one file system / partition. RAID is almost always a good idea but in the case of the OS locking up frequently due to hardware problems, I suspect you will see lots of issues with broken RAID mirrors with the OS locking up frequently. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] all your GPU are belong to us
On 10/25/07, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If passwords weren't dead already, this (or having the botnet do it on the CPUs) finished them. In a world where bank PINs are 4 numeric digits can you suggest practical alternatives? Biometrics are not mature enough. Two-factor authentication has existed for a long time but is not cost effective for the average consumer. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Re: [buug] nano help!!!!
On 10/16/07, Peter Besenbruch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: goku ball z wrote: setenv EDITOR/usr/local/bin/./nano ( which didn't work ) then I tried this also setenv EDITOR/usr/local/bin/nano (which also didn't work) Setting the EDITOR only helps when you use a program that calls an editor such as crontab, mutt and pine. What about putting a link in /usr/bin to your Nano executable? I don't run Suse, but that's what Debian does. It's odd that they would put Nano in /usr/local/bin, as that usually isn't in the path. Try man ln. Frankly, I find it easier to do links with Midnight Commander, sometimes called mc. It is a BSD thing to install packages under /usr/local, but since the problem is on SuSE, I suspect in this case it was a local install from the source package (sh configure make sudo make install). NetOpsCenter wrote: I run FreeBSD here in Hawaii, but I added the LUAU list to this email. Plenty local Linux users on it could maybe help you. Whatever works. The solution is the same in both: fix the PATH. For tcsh, the OP will want to add something like the following to your .tcshrc file: set PATH = ($PATH /usr/local/bin) Using a symlink will work too, but using a custom PATH will continue to work for other local package installations. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] POSTFIX......
On 10/18/07, Clifton Royston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:35:44AM -0700, goku ball z wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding postfix. I was searching and reading some books about postfix. But they really didn't get in to non unix email accounts. So my question is... Is there a way without using mysql database to create non unix email accounts? I know that you can have many domains, but I am more concern about non unix email accounts... This is of course really a Postfix question, and as you get into more detail you will probably need to try the postfix-users mailing list and read it for a bit. I think it is an answer to the wrong question. If the question is really how to I set up a mail system for non-unix users, one good answer is to use Zimbra, bundling anti-spam, imap, ldap, pop, smtp and webmail all into one system. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] help with iptables
I tend to not use Linux for dual-homed hosts, but this should be very doable. Have you enabled logging to see what rules are matching first? It seems strange that you want to block internal access to tcp/80, but if this is true, you can configure the web server to bind to only the external interface/IP so there is nothing to filter out on the internal interface. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Aloha List Monitor
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 04:02:35PM -1000, NetOpsCenter wrote: Julian Yap wrote: http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau I already tried doing it from that link and it didn't delete for me. Mailman requires a double opt-in to subscribe and a double opt-out to unsubscribe to help guard against mail spoofing. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] hosef MIRROR
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 04:57:20PM -1000, Julian Yap wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:24 -1000, HawaiiDakine.com wrote: 1. Why is the size of the ISO file for free BSD 6.2 on the Hosef mirror small compared with the ones I download from the FreeBSD site? snip On HOSEF.org, it's shown in Megabytes. So 6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso = 573.3M On FTP mirrors it's in Kilobytes (so 587138 KB). Is that what you mean? Make sure you do MD5/SHA checks, too. I think there was some MB/KB confusion as well. Just in case, I verified that the md5sums on the HOSEF mirror match those of the main FreeBSD ftp mirror. 2. Can we place the ISO snapshot of Current 7.* in development on the mirror? They update it about every 2 months. When the new hard disks are installed we should have more space, so all I would need is an rsync target for the snapshots. If you follow -CURRENT, you might as well be updating via cvsup and run mergemaster/buildworld/installworld. I'd also like AMD64 images (for the latest production release only should be fine). I updated the scripts to grab -RELEASE versions of 6.2 and up of i386 and amd64. When 7.0 is released, the scripts should automatically pull those ISO files without any changes to the rsync scripts. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] hosef MIRROR
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 06:13:00PM -1000, HawaiiDakine.com wrote: I would like to ask about an addition to the FreeBSD segment. What do you need? The only arbitrary limitation I am placing on what to mirror is that the source have an rsync target to download from. (Unless someone volunteers to update the cvsup port for Linux.) -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] From the Star Bulletin
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 05:43:47PM -1000, 808blogger wrote: sorta wonder how the city and county can actually get away with this? this is not very in the spirit of OSS , especially publiclly funded access. For this exact reason the government should stay out of brokering any level access for public facilities... I think it would be fair to say that when compared to the members of this list, the general public would prefer more perceived safety at the cost of information freedom. Would it have been better to be uncompromising on the filtering issue and have the community say no to free wireless access? -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Re: Linux HD Recovery
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 05:49:20PM -1000, John S. Johnson wrote: PV /dev/sda2VG VolGroup00 lvm2 [1.84 GB / 64.00 MB free] It seems like you need to rename your volume group. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8874 The article describes how to create your missing volume group configuration using dd and using the new configuration file to activate the old volume group with vgcfgrestore. If this works, run vgcfgbackup and copy /etc/lvm to some place outside of your logical volume, like /boot/lvm. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Linux HD Recovery
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 01:32:34AM -1000, John S. Johnson wrote: HD is intact, but the motherboard is kaput. It's an old Athlon and the system I am attaching it to via external USB drive is a recent Dell. I don't think it would be bootable, since the OS is so different(even if I put the drive inside). Did you try? The two stumbling blocks to this approach are the processor and hard disk controller. If those are compatible and the filesystems are intact, it should come right up. If that fails, then boot off Knoppix and try a vgscan. What would really help is copy of your lvm config which unfortunately sits under /etc/lvm. Also, since the system went down hard, I am sure there are going to be inconsistencies with the drive. Although I don't have drive in front of me, I believe I remember having problems stemming from inconsistencies when I ran vgscan and vgchange ???a y. How can I clean up the inconsistencies? Thanks! A quote from DriverSavers if your data is important. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Linux HD Recovery
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 05:48:08PM -1000, John S. Johnson wrote: /dev/sdb2 /mnt/tempdrive2 auto defaults, ro 0 0 I can mount sdb1 but sdb2 flags me with the error: mount: you must specify the filesystem type You need to mount the logical volume and not the raw partition. Looking at the drive with fdisk shows me that sdb1 is Linux and sdb2 is a Linux LVM drive...any ideas on how to get sdb2 mounted? Thanks in advance!! If the HD is intact, you can probably move it to the primary IDE interface and boot straight off of it. If you want a more manual approach, start with this: vgscan vgdisplay lvscan -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] s/hosef.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors.hosef.org/g
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 11:37:09PM -1000, Jimen Ching wrote: And Vince, the following is directed at the LUAU list as a whole and not you personally. Even though I'm using your qoute; I'm only using it to make a point. Not a problem. Your participation over the years has been certainly valued and welcomed. Concerning this qoute: ... the non-technical ones are a complete eye-sore. I know the following will sound like a lecture, and I know a lot of you already know about FOSS and the ideas behind it. But I think we sometimes need reminding of what this concept is all about. I know I sometimes forget myself... My point is you and Jim probably agree with each other more than with me but end up spending lots of time arguing minor points. And if it was important, why is the subject untouched? There would be lots more Google juice for this sub-thread if it was. Well, that's another point I want to make concerning the qoute above. Which is--not only should LUAU be open to all topics of Linux and FOSS, it should be open to all organizations as well. We are in agreement here. I doubt anyone disagrees. We just get stuck on the statement HOSEF is LUAU. I happen to disagree with that, surprise! But I also think it matters little because I participate on this forum and the non-profit to the extent that I am willing and able. My only regret there is not actually having met Jim or Julian. You and I have not been introduced in real life for that matter. If you've read all the way to this sentence, I thank you for giving me your time and reading my opinions. I do, but still believe a blog, private replies, or over some beer would be better for such an issue. If anyone wants to reply to my comments, please do so privately. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] HDs for mirrors.hosef.org
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:51:10PM -1000, HawaiiDakine.com wrote: I'll give a $50.00 check to the mirror server project with the hopes of FreeBSD being part of it. Done! http://mirrors.hosef.org/FreeBSD/ I cheated, FreeBSD ISOs have been there for at least two years now. CVSup is a bigger hurdle. Any modula 3 hackers out there? I doubt the old motherboard supports PCI-X, but the 3ware 9500S-4LP should work. (SATA, RAID1+0). To whom do I send the tax deductable gift? Hosef? HOSEF PO Box 392 Kailua, HI 96734 Since Michael offered to help, I am going to ask him to handle the order and have HOSEF reimburse him. Let Scott know if you need a donation receipt. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] s/hosef.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors.hosef.org/g
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 11:52:20PM -1000, Jimen Ching wrote: I think if you subscribe to this list for a while, the ratio of bickering to technical discussion should go down. ;-) One thing I can certainly fault myself for is having too loud of a voice when I first joined the list and thus drowning out others. So to make this short... I certainly welcome more bickering/debates on technical merits, but the non-technical ones are a complete eye-sore. We are all not going to agree on whether or not HOSEF == LUAU. Move it to a blog where it belongs. k thx. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] HDs for mirrors.hosef.org
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 01:56:05PM -1000, Matt Darnell wrote: Perhaps we should let Vince propose which drive(s) to purchase, @ $200 each. I think we have three hands up to buy one and donate. I think there are four people: Jim Thompson Michael Bishop Clifton Royston Matt Darnell Yes. Thanks to Scott for the initial hardware. Thanks to Matt, Michael, Scott, Warren, and the anonymous HOSEF/McKinley donations for the second and third round of upgrades. I wonder if a SATA add-in card should be added to the wish list. I can imagine finding a box to support all the IDE devices in four years will be a challenge. 3ware makes the only SATA cards that I have personally known to work over the past 3 years and a 4-port card will run about $300. Silicon Image makes sub-$100 cards, but I have not used them in a year. Adaptec ships too many cards to make any sense of. Sticking with PATA would be non-ideal, but it is no showstopper. I think 500GB PATA disks should out live their usefulness in 4 years for file mirror. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] s/hosef.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors.hosef.org/g
On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 07:19:08AM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: [Resending - sent from wrong address] Since your MUA is mutt, here is a send hook for this list: send-hook '~C luau@' \ 'my_hdr From: Clifton Royston [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ' \ 'my_hdr Mail-Followup-To: luau@lists.hosef.org' For the non-mutt enabled, people can always subscribe their other e-mail addresses and disable mail delivery to stop the duplicate mail. I'd be happy to kick in a 3rd, if you want to make it RAID-5 and double the volume? I am rather allergic to RAID5 unless it is on a _seriously_ fast SCSI controller, but we can certainly run a 600GB RAID1 + 500GB single-disk to get over 1TB of space for the public file mirror until the second pair can be completed. Are there any other businesses that want to do any end of the year write offs? :) Thanks folks. Thank you all very much. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] s/hosef.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors.hosef.org/g
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 09:39:56AM -1000, Julian Yap wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 09:08 -1000, Matt Darnell wrote: The ISOs for various releases have squeezed out most of the updates, so Julian is correct, only updates for the Debian and SuSE repositories are available. As the ISOs get larger, the SuSE repository will drop, and finally Debian. Over the years, I have noticed that the repositories were not really used much. The mirrored ISOs turned out to be used more and involved less maintenance, so I have been leaning heavily towards mirroring smaller projects and the more popular ISOs. Does the current box have room, or can you use them to bring up a seperate server for the updates? The current HOSEF server at UH is fully loaded with hard disk drives. The last time there was major maintenance, we moved the disks around to provide much more space between them to allow for better cooling. We could physically squeeze more disks into the server now, but we would give up in reliability because the disks would sit very close to each other and start sharing IDE chains. If we get a donation of 250-500GB pairs, it would be worth pulling out the old disks to upgrade. I think donations in the 100GB range would be best served for school servers. I am sure HOSEF has a box it could donate to LUAU. I have been arguing against more servers and moving most of the web content off to a hosted facility and using the existing server mostly for backups and file service. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] s/hosef.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors.hosef.org/g
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:32:48AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: I thought the idea was to be able to use the bandwidth locally? For mirrors.hosef.org, yes. For www.hosef.org, no. Personally, I'd rather have a Debian/Ubuntu .deb respository, a Fedora rpm repository, and a local CVSup tree for freebsd than a bunch of ISO images. (Does anyone install from the full ISO set any more?) I personally agree with you, but folks on the list have tended to ask more for ISOs than repository mirrors. Historically, it has only been me and Scott that have consistently used the non-ISO parts of the mirror. The server currently only supports PATA. With you and Matt chipping in for new disks, we would be moving from a 250GB partial RAID1 file mirror to over a 600GB RAID1 file mirror. With the additional space, more repositories can be added back. CVSup for FreeBSD would be neat, but we need a working cvsup and modula3 library for Debian. If we ever get the Kuokoa project off the ground, we're doing to need a repository for that. A vserver was prepped a year ago, but probably needs to be rebuilt. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] s/hosef.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors.hosef.org/g
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:55:43AM -1000, Dave Burns wrote: * Should I replace my old repository/repositories with this one or just add it to the list? * Is there a gpg key somewhere? * Any other useful hints regarding how it is intended typically to be used? I was a little quick in writing my note. The ISOs for various releases have squeezed out most of the updates, so Julian is correct, only updates for the Debian and SuSE repositories are available. As the ISOs get larger, the SuSE repository will drop, and finally Debian. For apt, you can add mirrors.hosef.org as a target so apt-get can multiplex the downloads. For yum/yast, you probably want to single source from a larger mirror anyway. You get any relevant gpg keys from the respective distribution. I will pretty much mirror anything within reason that has a good rsync upstream mirror. Perl's CPAN is mirrored. I have tried to mirror ruby's gems, but the mirror masters and I disagree on the replication method. Python's Cheese Shop should sneak its way in once they start to need mirrors. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
[LUAU] s/hosef.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors.hosef.org/g
If you still have some apt/yum repositories referring to hosef.ics.hawaii.edu, you will want to change it soon and replace it with mirrors.hosef.org. The ICS-based hostname will be removed shortly. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Some newbie FreeBSD questions
On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 07:44:40PM -0800, Julian Yap wrote: Why is it that when I initially add a package using 'pkg_add' it doesn't grab the latest version for that package? Are you following -RELEASE or -STABLE? I believe the -RELEASE packages do not get updated. You will have slightly better luck with the binary packages if you follow -STABLE, but avoiding the binary packages entirely would be easier if you have enough disk space. How do you keep the /usr/ports directory small? On my test install it's over 1.1GB even after running portsclean with all the available options. You can try purging /usr/ports/distfiles. All the source packages are downloaded there. As it is, I dedicated 4GB of space to my virtual machine and 1.2 GB to the /usr partition. So when I run 'portupgrade firefox' it runs out of disk space. You will run into the least problems if your /usr is the largest partition. To avoid reinstalling, you can move /usr/ports somewhere else and reference it with a symlink. If you decide to reinstall, you can keep /, /tmp, and /var small and stuff the remaining space to /usr, or take the more Linux-like approach and stick everything under /. If you _knew you needed to install some huge port that would take up a lot of disk space to build (say Firefox), can you make the ports directory really small? Or can you have a _very minimal Ports directory? When you build from source, you need lots of space, sorry. You can try updating firefox's dependencies slowly and purge the source files along the way, but it is much faster to find disk. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] not using SED to extract song, artist, and album from my iTunes Music List Export
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 06:58:00AM -1000, Tim Newsham wrote:
XML is a problem in search of a problem
It was a sad day when I discovered OS X and Solaris startup
scripts depending on XML files. I certainly would not mind more
compact and easily parsable alternatives like JSON and YAML.
Here is a solution in ruby/rexml that runs natively on OS X 10.4
without requiring any library exports. Podcast subscriptions
are not contained within the XML file, so an OPML export is
unfortunately required to get to those bits.
#! /usr/bin/env ruby
require 'rexml/document'
itunes_index = #{ENV['HOME']}/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml
doc = REXML::Document.new IO.read(itunes_index)
doc.elements.each 'plist/dict/dict/dict' do |entry|
headers = {
'Name' = '',
'Artist' = '',
'Album' = '',
}
entry.elements.each do |track|
if track.name == 'key'
if headers.key? track.text
headers[track.text] = track.next_sibling.text
end
end
end
puts \#{headers['Name']}\ #{headers['Artist']} ~ #{headers['Album']}
end
-Vince
Re: [LUAU] not using SED to extract song, artist, and album from my iTunes Music List Export
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:01:03AM -1000, Tim Newsham wrote: Since XML was brought up, does anyone want to try some programming golf with their favorite language and XML library? Eww.. why? Primarily to flesh out the better XML parsers for those trying to be language agnostic. I also have a morbid curiosity at seeing an awk solution as suggested earlier in the thread. :) -Vince
Re: [LUAU] not using SED to extract song, artist, and album from my iTunes Music List Export
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 12:08:21AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:54 PM, Vince Hoang wrote:
I also had to tell awk to use a carriage-return as the newline
instead of linefeed when reading in the file. My version with
extraneous use of cat is:
Are you using Windows or something?
No cygwin environment to get cat/awk for many years now, just
python and ruby on my win32 systems these days.
cat itunes-export-file \
| awk '{FS=\t;RS=\r;printf(\%s\ %s %s\n, $1, $2, $4)}'
The snippet above was tested on 10.4.7 using an export from
iTunes 6.0.5 on an i386 Mac Mini and not an export from Scott's
system.
I originally had FS and RS wrapped inside a BEGIN block, but was
able to squeeze it down to what you see above. Scott sent me his
export privately and I still had to translate the newlines, but
my awk example broke and had to revert to using a BEGIN block:
awk 'BEGIN{FS=\t;RS=\r}{printf(\%s\ %s %s\n, $1, $2, $4)}'
-Vince
[LUAU] not using SED to extract song, artist, and album from my iTunes Music List Export
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:14:50PM -1000, R. Scott Belford wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
% awk -F \t '{printf(\%s\ %s %s\n, $1, $2, $3)}' itunes-export-file
I get this output in my terminal
Name Artist Composer
Jim's example prints fields 1, 2, and 3, but you want fields 1,
2, and 4. I also had to tell awk to use a carriage-return as the
newline instead of linefeed when reading in the file. My version
with extraneous use of cat is:
cat itunes-export-file \
| awk '{FS=\t;RS=\r;printf(\%s\ %s %s\n, $1, $2, $4)}'
Since XML was brought up, does anyone want to try some
programming golf with their favorite language and XML library?
-Vince
Re: [LUAU] Wordpress upload password, but might be more of an apache issue?
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 08:50:54PM -1000, Brian Chee wrote: Shouldn't Wordpress's own authentication system be sufficient? Only those who have permission to write blog entries are then able to upload files. But for this to work I gotta 777 the upload directory...which does NOT make me happy... You can chmod 0700 as long as you chown to the user:group of the web server user. Your later message about limiting POST is an additional authentication step, where the extra user management would need to be handled out of band. You still cannot avoid the problem of the web server user owning all the files with this approach. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Authorization problem on email server
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 02:34:24PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: FreeBSD 6.1 I have installed sendmail imap and pop3. I tried installing dovecot. I can still send from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] user to anywhere on the inet. However, I get a bad authentication passwd err for the same user when I try to download his mail. You might consider starting with a basic configuration from the dovecot wiki before enabling various optional bits: http://wiki.dovecot.org/DovecotServerInstallations/FreeBSD/6.0RELEASE/20Users The example uses pam, but if that does not work, try pointing auth_passdb to shadow or passwd-file /etc/master.passwd. If you are using actual system users, stay away from UW imap and stick with dovecot. The server box has ssh and I can get onto it with the password assigned with no problem. Doesn't the dovecot use the same account passwd for the account? It assumes you have pam. I am not sure if the FreeBSD port for dovecot patches the default configuration to account for this. Or do I have to enable ssl to use the ssh passwrd system which is encrypted? I just left ssl off to run unencrypted for testing. SSH and SSL do not interoperate. See the following link for a less terse explanation: http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1818 This was my problem from the beginning not being able to receive, only send to other accounts. But at least dovecot has created an err message that says why. I don't know how to fix this. Havent found a how to. Good, because local-host-names should have been all you needed for sendmail to accept locally bound mail. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Apache Virtual Hosts
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 04:38:21PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: #NameVirtualHost *:80 NameVirtualHost 192.168.1.23 #VirtualHost *:80 VirtualHost 192.168.1.23 I usually keep the configuration at *:80 for both NameVirtualHost and VirtualHost, but an explicit 192.168.1.23 should work as well. Is it possible that your configuration is actually correct, but your DNS is set wrong? All the hosts you listed on the ServerName lines should resolve to 192.168.1.23 when you ping them. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Apache Virtual Hosts
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:04:58AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: I have tried to setup a Virtual hosts server in apache 1.3 ( single IP to the box) and I can get only the first domain in the three in the setup I am trying to come up. (moving any of the three to that position works.) You left out the virtual hosts part of your config, but my magic eight-ball says you misset NameVirtualHost. If fixing that fails to work, paste your VirtualHost stanzas. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/name-based.html I read all the docs I could find and can only find some vague info that a box running FreeBSD accessed by ssh wont allow virtual hosts. If this is true is there a work around? I think you confused SSL with SSH. There is extra complexity to the configuration when you host multiple SSL-enabled sites on a single server. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Apache Virtual Hosts
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 11:28:31AM -0700, Julian Yap wrote: A work around could be to install Linux as the operating system. Not that I'm biased but I've never had any issue with setting up VirtualHosts on Apache 2. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/name-based.html http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/name-based.html If you disregard the pre-fork/thread differences, the configurations should be essentially the same. I've heard that FreeBSD is a lot more difficult in setting up when it comes to any web stack. Apache is really platform-agnostic, see sample snippets for Debian, FreeBSD, and Windows: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/18 http://www.freebsddiary.org/virtualhosts.php http://www.apptools.com/phptools/virtualhost.php The only issue with FreeBSD that I am aware of is trying to use java in the web stack, due to licensing issues. You can download the JDK for FreeBSD again, but running java on FreeBSD seems to be a huge liability until Sun decides to switch to an open-source friendly license for java. Hence the acronym LAMP which you can setup out of the box with Linux. This is unfortunate marketing that does not scale. Forget being a LAMR, get PAID instead! http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2001/02/on_blarm.html http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2006/05/07/Ruby-DB2-now-with-Viper-support http://trainedmonkey.com/2006/5/4/acronyms http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2006/may/03/paid/ -Vince
Re: [LUAU] FTP Improvements
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:55:28AM -1000, R. Scott Belford wrote: Let it be known that Vince has done some exceptional work with our FTP mirror. We are now running lighttpd. http://hosef.ics.hawaii.edu The new URL is http://mirrors.hosef.org/, currently running a very bare lighttpd as the HTTP daemon. The old FTP daemon is still running, but is not as responsive. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] a new use for hosef donations (used PCs)?
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 10:15:15AM -1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: I am probably old enough to be your grandpa, so please don't take my words too seriously. One of the key issues in Samba is to manually edit the config file. Most samba configs should have the home share setup by default. Provided samba is installed and running, all you would really need to do then is set a password via smbpasswd and hit the share with \\$IP\$USER. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] . . . (VMware . . .)
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:50:54PM -1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: I was looking for a non-Samba option (see my first question). OTOH, the free VM-Player does not have the tools option, as opposed to the $180 real thing. Any other suggestion(s)? You can try VMware Server. The product is on my own list of things to try, so I cannot say for certain that it solve the problem the way you want. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Hosef site down?
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 09:21:07AM -1000, Wilson Chan wrote: Is hosef.org mirrors.hosef.org down? The server was wedged since late last night but came back later this morning. I tripped over myself while moving all the data disks over to reiserfs on top of MD and LVM for some added flexibility. Everything was going fine until I twiddled with hdparm to try to speed things up more. Bad idea. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Computer books for trade? Perl, PostNuke
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 04:17:03PM -0800, Josh wrote: I have an addiction to buying computer books. I'm trying to get rid of a few because I've moved on to other projects: * Perl Cookbook (O'Reilly) This is one of the best ORA books ever written. I have two copies from when I did a lot of scipting. Even if you never write another piece of perl code, you can take a lot of it and transpose into php or ruby. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Putting the UG back in LUG
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:48:31PM -1000, Tim Newsham wrote: In one of the usenix ;login: issues they integrated asterix with mythtv, so you can even tie this back in with the original project. (Stuff like putting caller id on screen instead of ringing the phone when watching a movie). http://www.usenix.org/publications/login/2005-02/ Voice over IP with Asterisk by Heison Chak http://www.usenix.org/publications/login/2005-06/ More Asterisk Tricks by Heison Chak Unless you have a USENIX membership, the second article will not be available until 2006/06. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Putting the UG back in LUG
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 05:45:15PM -1000, Matt Darnell wrote: I think some people would appricaite just knowing when FreeBSD is appropriate. When your preferred server OS annoys you enough to switch. It is easier to run java on Linux. It is easier to run commerical applications on the enterprise Linux distributions. Outside of those, it becomes mostly a matter of taste. You can read or hear about the firewall configuration, package management, and software RAID management, but you only really appreciate the differences after using it for a while. For the home server box, try running a different flavor each year or two and squeeze as much functionality as you can into it. Very little is learned by installing something and letting it idle until it gets overwritten again. -Vince
[LUAU] on Linux training
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 07:59:48PM -1000, Julian Yap wrote: What represents the future? Education and let's use the example of certifications. A few years ago, there weren't _any Linux certifications. Now you have CertCities.com calling the Red Hat Certified Engineer the Hottest Certification for 2006 (http://www.certcities.com/editorial/features/story.asp?EditorialsID=95). Today's RHCE will represent tomorrow's CTO. Oahu is one of the few locations in the country with a local Red Hat Academy at PCATT. Academies can currently teach and administer tests for the RHCT and are on their way to providing the RHCE and security related offerings. In addition, HOSEF started the negotiations for Novell to offer a Linux+ derivative to the DOE, catering to folks with no Linux background. Novell did not have an Academy program that targetted schools when we first talked to them. The first instructor's class ran a month ago. For those that just want solutions, I there is always that consultant directory that is being setting up. :) -Vince
Re: [LUAU] TPOSSCON 2006 Gallery pictures and Podcast MP3's
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:45:33PM -1000, Julian Yap wrote: I've also put an iPod friendly MP3 of one of today's speakers Aaron Seigo on How Open Source Software Improves Society: http://www.tposscon.com/audio.php iTunes - Advanced - Subscribe to Podcast - URL: http://www.hosef.org/wordpress/?feed=rss2 -Vince
[LUAU] helping out with TPOSSCON
http://www.hosef.org/wiki/index.php/Current_events Scott seems to be very short staffed for volunteers this year. If you can make the time, much would be appreciated. (Hypocritically, my name is nowhere on the current roster.) -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Re: UH Manoa
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 07:30:44PM -0800, Josh wrote: I've been so busy I still haven't had time to go to any meetings... I just got into UH Manoa and am going to try to take a couple of computer classes. Does anyone know of any professors that are particularly open-source friendly? I hear great praise for Dr. Philip Johnson and his software engineering class where you work on java/eclipse/ant/cvs/junit. Dr. Edo Biagioni's operating systems class makes you hack on the Linux kernel. I was hoping for classes in Python or open-source web programming but I'm not sure if they exist. I don't have Windows on my computer anymore and prefer to use it as little as possible. Is there anything Linux-related at the University? You will probably be writing in java for your first two classes. I cannot speak highly enough for Dr. Dan Suthers. Take his ICS211 class if you can. Universities tend to have an agnostic or *nix slant. When I toyed with the idea of pursuing an ICS masters degree, the ICS program was java-slanted. I am not sure how much .NET has influenced things over the past few years. I was disappointed that the UH web site student login pages only provided help instructions to Windows IE/Netscape and Mac Safari users... Write to the webmaster to update the documentation. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] Python Creator Guido van Rossum Now Working at Google
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 12:16:20AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8821 Wonder if heÅfs getting paid just to hack on Python, sort of like how back in the dot-com era O'Reilly used to have Larry Wall on the payroll just to support the continued development of Perl? http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=171973cid=14322696 In any case: yeah, we hired him because we want him to work on Python itself. And as John says later in this thread -- about half his time. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] doing 'e'
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:56:48AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
Lets see a perl/python/... equivalent to this lisp exercise for
obtaining 'e':
I will pass on perl, but here is my attempt in ruby. I would have
made it more functional/lisp-like, but I have not fully grokked
using yield.
#! /usr/bin/env ruby
class Array
def avg
inject { |sum, n| sum + n } / length.to_f
end
end
def wait_time
sum, times = 0, 0
while sum = 1.0
sum += rand
times += 1
end
times
end
def wait_times(trials)
list = []
trials.times do |t|
list.push wait_time
end
list
end
def avg_wait_time(trials)
wait_times(trials).avg
end
puts 'Some wait times: ' + wait_times(10).join(' ')
trials = [ 1, 10, 100, 1000, 1, 10 ]
print 'Average wait times:'
trials.each do |t|
print ' ' + avg_wait_time(t).to_s
end
Visit http://tryruby.hobix.com/ for an amazingly interactive
tutorial to ruby.
-Vince
Re: [LUAU] language...
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 08:10:59AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
Tim Newsham wrote:
Yet you make good use of pronouns in your english
compositions. Is it the poor choice of name ($_), the subtle
(or non-uniform?) rules about what they reference, or just
lack of familiarity?
Its mostly the last (familiarity), but the non-uniform rules
are part of it. Perl's syntax gets in my way, and I openly
admit same. It looks like a sendmail.cf file to me.
Perl's over-dependence on punctuation is admitedly tiring. But,
would perl suck less if 'use English' and 'use strict' were
enabled by default?
To be fair, the objectionable perl code I see is due more to the
style rather than syntax. Take this snippet from logwatch, a
ubiquitous piece of perl code found on most Linux systems:
@ServiceList = @TempServiceList;
for (my $i = 0; $i = $#ServiceList; $i++) {
$ServiceList[$i] = lc($ServiceList[$i]);
}
You could more clearly rewrite it as:
for my $s (@TempServiceList) {
push @ServiceList, lc($s);
}
.. or more concisely with:
@ServiceList = map(lc, @TempServiceList);
.. or in python:
service_list = [ s.lower() for s in temp_server_list ]
.. or in ruby:
service_list = temp_server_list.map { |s| s.downcase }
-Vince
Re: [LUAU] Re: Python (Was Re: Hosef)
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 09:53:18AM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: (I sent this to the list before, but from the wrong address...) Sorry, non-subscriber messages get held until a cron process purges them each night. I had originally hacked mailman to reject non-subscriber posts, but removed it in fear having the lists joe-jobbed. On the list of todos (but will realistically never get around to) is to write a before-queue content filter for postfix to bounce at SMTP time if you are non-subscriber. -Vince
Re: [LUAU] RE: Hosef
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:06:20AM -0800, 2020 2020 wrote: I ran into someone at Borders who is taking programming classess at KCC. He said they teach Java and some other things but nothing for Python. Ask HCC. Vern Takebayashi in the ICS program is a big python fan. -Vince
[LUAU] mergemaster
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 12:53:44PM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: For this reasons, and given my technical bent, gentoo (and emerge) seems a better solution than debian + 'apt', but even emerge pales in comparison to FreeBSD's 'cvsup; make world; make kernel; ...' (though 'mergemaster' sucks rocks). Given that the gentoo original mission was to recreate the BSD 'make' system, and the resultant de-railing when the gentoo system started to require python in order to build, this seems like the natural order of things. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html Although the world target still exists, you are strongly encouraged not to use it. Even 'mergemaster' isn't perfect, I recently managed to take the FreeBSD box from 5.4 to 6.0RC1, but it needed a little 'help' via remote hands, since mergemaster had given me a /etc/groups file where I was no longer in /etc/group, and I hadn't (yet) installed 'sudo' on the box. Presto, no way to become root except on the console. What is a sane alternative to mergemaster? Updating /etc is a PITA without it. Correction, updating /etc is less of a PITA with it. I am glad gentoo has a cousin to it, etc-update, rather than forcing you to run find and manually performing left/right merges. -Vince
