[LUTE] Re: Each one with his/her phone.
This is what I made a while ago with my guitar (and one lute!) pupil. [1]https://youtu.be/_rd4ybtec4Y David On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 00:41, Alain Veylit <[2]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: A somewhat more elaborate take on the same idea - also using a master tape, but took about a year to record in "real time": [3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph1GU1qQ1zQ Luthistes de tous les pays unissez-vous! On 3/23/20 3:30 PM, howard posner wrote: >> On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Diego Cantalupi <[4]tio...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Each one with his/her phone. >> >> Il 23/03/2020 16:11, Dr. Henner Kahlert ha scritto: >>> Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? > Could you share how you did it? > > Two days ago I tried to lead our small congregation in a virtual service using Zoom, and it was impossible to synchronize it. Even if our mouths were moving in unison, it was cacophony. > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [6]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [7]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com *** -- References 1. https://youtu.be/_rd4ybtec4Y 2. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph1GU1qQ1zQ 4. mailto:tio...@gmail.com 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 7. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] New CD, Fair and Princely Branches
I am pleased to announce the release of a new CD of English Renaissance Music- Fair and Princely Branches: Renaissance Music for the Jacobean Princes I was honored to collaborate with an incredible group of young musicians on the project spanning composers including John Coprario, Alfonso Ferrabosco, Orlando Gibbons, Thomas Lupo, and of course John Dowland. Music for string band, soprano and lute in various combinations and arrangements by the very talented Alison Monroe. Available for purchase or download here: [1]https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/queensrebels Also for download on Amazon [2]https://amzn.to/2QEaAht Apple Music: [3]https://music.apple.com/us/album/fair-princely-branches-renai ssance-music-for-jacobean/1499869274 And other streaming services. A short promotional video is here: [4]https://youtu.be/QhiOs2xXBjQ These are of course challenging times and if you don't have one of the streaming services and the fee is a burden, email me directly and I'll share a copy with you at no charge. The day job has been all consuming and I sadly haven't been able to pick up an instrument to play in weeks, but hope to share music nevertheless Danny -- References 1. https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/queensrebels 2. https://amzn.to/2QEaAht 3. https://music.apple.com/us/album/fair-princely-branches-renaissance-music-for-jacobean/1499869274 4. https://youtu.be/QhiOs2xXBjQ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Each one with his/her phone.
A somewhat more elaborate take on the same idea - also using a master tape, but took about a year to record in "real time": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph1GU1qQ1zQ Luthistes de tous les pays unissez-vous! On 3/23/20 3:30 PM, howard posner wrote: On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: Each one with his/her phone. Il 23/03/2020 16:11, Dr. Henner Kahlert ha scritto: Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? Could you share how you did it? Two days ago I tried to lead our small congregation in a virtual service using Zoom, and it was impossible to synchronize it. Even if our mouths were moving in unison, it was cacophony. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
Create a master track to which everyone will play and record their part. Then you put everything together in sync. Latency free music making is virtually impossible in real time... On 23.03.20 23:30, howard posner wrote: On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: Each one with his/her phone. Il 23/03/2020 16:11, Dr. Henner Kahlert ha scritto: Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? Could you share how you did it? Two days ago I tried to lead our small congregation in a virtual service using Zoom, and it was impossible to synchronize it. Even if our mouths were moving in unison, it was cacophony. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
> On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: > > Each one with his/her phone. > > Il 23/03/2020 16:11, Dr. Henner Kahlert ha scritto: >> Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? Could you share how you did it? Two days ago I tried to lead our small congregation in a virtual service using Zoom, and it was impossible to synchronize it. Even if our mouths were moving in unison, it was cacophony. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
"Only one chord" :) With that number of chords that's something totally different. But I suspect that passamezzo is indeed a blanket term. Pacoloni has many different "passamezzi", some even on chanson models. The common thing is the cyclic variation. Later, the Ciacona is used as a blanket term as well, so much so that the Passacaglia is a Ciacona in Mattheson's definition. Bach's Chaconne is both "Ciacona" and "Passacaglia". On 23.03.20 21:30, Sean Smith wrote: It's only one chord different from the Antico (Opening chord Romanesca: III ; Opening chord Antico: i) and often appears as an Antico alternate in many sources. Compare the Dalza with the Valderabano Romanesca for similarity. Libro 7 f97. Apparently the Romanesca predates the Antico, at least in printed sources. Sean ps, I took the liberty of excising the copied info at the bottom of our emails. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
It's only one chord different from the Antico (Opening chord Romanesca: III ; Opening chord Antico: i) and often appears as an Antico alternate in many sources. Compare the Dalza with the Valderabano Romanesca for similarity. Libro 7 f97. Apparently the Romanesca predates the Antico, at least in printed sources. Sean ps, I took the liberty of excising the copied info at the bottom of our emails. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
Hmm... a Romanesca is not a Passamezzo model though. If you consider Passamezzo as a blanket term for cyclic variation models, this would apply to many other pieces. That's an interesting discussion though! On 23.03.20 20:35, Sean Smith wrote: Tristan, If you're looking for an early passemezo of Spanish character, there is a Romanesca in Dalza, f46. Sean On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:50 AM Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: Sorry, I trusted the number Sarge put on his edition. So it's not from 1520 after all? No problem. That's even more interesting, because this means that Hans Judenkünig's Spanish Dance in his 1523 book is earlier than any of the actual Spanish sources. It's similar to the dance in Simancas. Like Hans Newsidler had the earliest Passamezzo though it's an Italian dance... On 23.03.20 19:35, Antonio Corona wrote: We should be careful not to put forward our thoughts as facts. Try Narváez (1538), it even predates the French guitar versions, not to mention the later English lute versions (and it is not a recommendation). Cheers Antonio On Monday, 23 March 2020, 04:46:37 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann [1]<[2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: I thought this was the oldest known vihuela tablature? Feel free to recommend an earlier version! I'm interested. On 23.03.20 11:26, Antonio Corona wrote: > � � How can you be so certain that this is the earliest example of the > � � Conde Claros? > � � Best regards to everybody, > � � Antonio > > � � On Sunday, 22 March 2020, 14:25:51 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann > � � <[2][3]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: > � � For some Condes Claros beginner fun, check out this duet (you can > � � record > � � the second part and play to it). > � � It's also the earliest example. > � � [1][3][4]http://gerbode.net/sources/E-SIM_simancas_archivo_general/l eg_394 _si > � � mancas_vihuela_ms_1520/pdf/3_contrapunto_sobre_conde_claros.pdf > � � The best beginner's book (I learned to play with it) is certainly the > � � one by Hans Newsidler: > � � [2][4][5]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_1/pdf/ > � � [3][5][6]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_2/pdf/ > � � The great thing is that Newsidler carefully progresses, introducing > � � just > � � one new aspect per piece. > � � Also the first couple of pieces have only two voices, the third can > � � optionally be sung (it's popular tunes everyone knew back then). > � � Other books like Robinson's School of Music seem too difficult and > � � unorganized for the beginner. > � � Though Robinson is nice and the introduction helpful, it fails to > � � create > � � a learning curve. > � � On 22.03.20 20:44, Sean Smith wrote: > � � > � � You're right. It is long and involved and certainly has its > � � difficult > � � > � � bits. > � � > � � It might be a project for someone with time on their hands to > � � select > � � > � � bits for easier sections to play. It has its parallels with Conde > � � > � � Claros which went through many personal edits at the time so it > � � would > � � > � � hardly be anachronistic to edit it to one's specs. I would like to > � � > � � think that there's something in there for everybody. > � � > � � Sean > � � > > � � > � � On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:04 AM Jurgen Frenz > � � > � � <[1][4][6][7]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote: > � � > > � � > � � � if it is for easy pieces to play or re-work basic technique I > � � found > � � > � � � Lynda Says quarterly advice quite useful and the higher numbers >
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
Tristan, If you're looking for an early passemezo of Spanish character, there is a Romanesca in Dalza, f46. Sean On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:50 AM Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: Sorry, I trusted the number Sarge put on his edition. So it's not from 1520 after all? No problem. That's even more interesting, because this means that Hans Judenkünig's Spanish Dance in his 1523 book is earlier than any of the actual Spanish sources. It's similar to the dance in Simancas. Like Hans Newsidler had the earliest Passamezzo though it's an Italian dance... On 23.03.20 19:35, Antonio Corona wrote: We should be careful not to put forward our thoughts as facts. Try Narváez (1538), it even predates the French guitar versions, not to mention the later English lute versions (and it is not a recommendation). Cheers Antonio On Monday, 23 March 2020, 04:46:37 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann [1]<[2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: I thought this was the oldest known vihuela tablature? Feel free to recommend an earlier version! I'm interested. On 23.03.20 11:26, Antonio Corona wrote: > � � How can you be so certain that this is the earliest example of the > � � Conde Claros? > � � Best regards to everybody, > � � Antonio > > � � On Sunday, 22 March 2020, 14:25:51 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann > � � <[2][3]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: > � � For some Condes Claros beginner fun, check out this duet (you can > � � record > � � the second part and play to it). > � � It's also the earliest example. > � � [1][3][4]http://gerbode.net/sources/E-SIM_simancas_archivo_general/l eg_394 _si > � � mancas_vihuela_ms_1520/pdf/3_contrapunto_sobre_conde_claros.pdf > � � The best beginner's book (I learned to play with it) is certainly the > � � one by Hans Newsidler: > � � [2][4][5]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_1/pdf/ > � � [3][5][6]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_2/pdf/ > � � The great thing is that Newsidler carefully progresses, introducing > � � just > � � one new aspect per piece. > � � Also the first couple of pieces have only two voices, the third can > � � optionally be sung (it's popular tunes everyone knew back then). > � � Other books like Robinson's School of Music seem too difficult and > � � unorganized for the beginner. > � � Though Robinson is nice and the introduction helpful, it fails to > � � create > � � a learning curve. > � � On 22.03.20 20:44, Sean Smith wrote: > � � > � � You're right. It is long and involved and certainly has its > � � difficult > � � > � � bits. > � � > � � It might be a project for someone with time on their hands to > � � select > � � > � � bits for easier sections to play. It has its parallels with Conde > � � > � � Claros which went through many personal edits at the time so it > � � would > � � > � � hardly be anachronistic to edit it to one's specs. I would like to > � � > � � think that there's something in there for everybody. > � � > � � Sean > � � > > � � > � � On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:04 AM Jurgen Frenz > � � > � � <[1][4][6][7]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote: > � � > > � � > � � � if it is for easy pieces to play or re-work basic technique I > � � found > � � > � � � Lynda Says quarterly advice quite useful and the higher numbers > � � are > � � > � � � not so easy either: > � � > � � � [2][5][7][8]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/beginners > � � > � � � Further there's a list of tentative "grades" of difficulty of > � � lute > � Ã
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
Sorry, I trusted the number Sarge put on his edition. So it's not from 1520 after all? No problem. That's even more interesting, because this means that Hans Judenkünig's Spanish Dance in his 1523 book is earlier than any of the actual Spanish sources. It's similar to the dance in Simancas. Like Hans Newsidler had the earliest Passamezzo though it's an Italian dance... On 23.03.20 19:35, Antonio Corona wrote: We should be careful not to put forward our thoughts as facts. Try Narváez (1538), it even predates the French guitar versions, not to mention the later English lute versions (and it is not a recommendation). Cheers Antonio On Monday, 23 March 2020, 04:46:37 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann [1] wrote: I thought this was the oldest known vihuela tablature? Feel free to recommend an earlier version! I'm interested. On 23.03.20 11:26, Antonio Corona wrote: > � � How can you be so certain that this is the earliest example of the > � � Conde Claros? > � � Best regards to everybody, > � � Antonio > > � � On Sunday, 22 March 2020, 14:25:51 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann > � � <[2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: > � � For some Condes Claros beginner fun, check out this duet (you can > � � record > � � the second part and play to it). > � � It's also the earliest example. > � � [1][3]http://gerbode.net/sources/E-SIM_simancas_archivo_general/leg_394 _si > � � mancas_vihuela_ms_1520/pdf/3_contrapunto_sobre_conde_claros.pdf > � � The best beginner's book (I learned to play with it) is certainly the > � � one by Hans Newsidler: > � � [2][4]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_1/pdf/ > � � [3][5]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_2/pdf/ > � � The great thing is that Newsidler carefully progresses, introducing > � � just > � � one new aspect per piece. > � � Also the first couple of pieces have only two voices, the third can > � � optionally be sung (it's popular tunes everyone knew back then). > � � Other books like Robinson's School of Music seem too difficult and > � � unorganized for the beginner. > � � Though Robinson is nice and the introduction helpful, it fails to > � � create > � � a learning curve. > � � On 22.03.20 20:44, Sean Smith wrote: > � � > � � You're right. It is long and involved and certainly has its > � � difficult > � � > � � bits. > � � > � � It might be a project for someone with time on their hands to > � � select > � � > � � bits for easier sections to play. It has its parallels with Conde > � � > � � Claros which went through many personal edits at the time so it > � � would > � � > � � hardly be anachronistic to edit it to one's specs. I would like to > � � > � � think that there's something in there for everybody. > � � > � � Sean > � � > > � � > � � On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:04 AM Jurgen Frenz > � � > � � <[1][4][6]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote: > � � > > � � > � � � if it is for easy pieces to play or re-work basic technique I > � � found > � � > � � � Lynda Says quarterly advice quite useful and the higher numbers > � � are > � � > � � � not so easy either: > � � > � � � [2][5][7]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/beginners > � � > � � � Further there's a list of tentative "grades" of difficulty of > � � lute > � � > � � � pieces, not everybody feels the same as we all have different > � � > � � � difficulties but nice to go through > � � > � � � [3][6][8]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/towards-lute-grades > � � > � � � Best wishes > � � > � � � JÃÆÃâ ÃÆ Ã ï¿½rgen > � � > � � � ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ Original Message ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ÃÆ Ã ï¿½ > � � > � � � On Sunday, March 22, 2020 5:23 AM, Sean Smith > � � > � � � <[4][7][9]lutesm...@gmail.com> wrote: > � � > � � � > Both faves and we're lucky to have them. > � � > � � � > I know you like finding hidden things, Tristan. Go to the > � � really > � � > � � � long > � � > � � � > [Dump] on f280 in the Marsh. There's a measure missing between > � � 114 > � � > � � � and > � � > � � � > 115. Put in something you like or steal/adapt a measure from > � � > � � � elsewhere. > � � > � � � > Now here's the fun part, record it carefully, then pl
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
My wife and I were reading this very song a day ago. Lovely performance. Thanks, jeff Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 From: [2]Diego Cantalupi Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 8:41 AM To: [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine � � If you have some students and a singer: � � [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1aPRquAGg � � -- References � � 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1aPRquAGg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 2. mailto:tio...@gmail.com 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
Each one with his/her phone. Il 23/03/2020 16:11, Dr. Henner Kahlert ha scritto: Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? Henner Am 23.03.2020 um 14:35 schrieb Diego Cantalupi: If you have some students and a singer: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1aPRquAGg -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1aPRquAGg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? Henner Am 23.03.2020 um 14:35 schrieb Diego Cantalupi: If you have some students and a singer: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1aPRquAGg -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1aPRquAGg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Dr. Henner Kahlert In der Tasch 2a 76227 Karlsruhe (Durlach) Tel. 0049-(0)721-403353
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
If you have some students and a singer: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1aPRquAGg -- References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1aPRquAGg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
I thought this was the oldest known vihuela tablature? Feel free to recommend an earlier version! I'm interested. On 23.03.20 11:26, Antonio Corona wrote: How can you be so certain that this is the earliest example of the Conde Claros? Best regards to everybody, Antonio On Sunday, 22 March 2020, 14:25:51 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann wrote: For some Condes Claros beginner fun, check out this duet (you can record the second part and play to it). It's also the earliest example. [1]http://gerbode.net/sources/E-SIM_simancas_archivo_general/leg_394_si mancas_vihuela_ms_1520/pdf/3_contrapunto_sobre_conde_claros.pdf The best beginner's book (I learned to play with it) is certainly the one by Hans Newsidler: [2]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_1/pdf/ [3]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_2/pdf/ The great thing is that Newsidler carefully progresses, introducing just one new aspect per piece. Also the first couple of pieces have only two voices, the third can optionally be sung (it's popular tunes everyone knew back then). Other books like Robinson's School of Music seem too difficult and unorganized for the beginner. Though Robinson is nice and the introduction helpful, it fails to create a learning curve. On 22.03.20 20:44, Sean Smith wrote: >You're right. It is long and involved and certainly has its difficult >bits. >It might be a project for someone with time on their hands to select >bits for easier sections to play. It has its parallels with Conde >Claros which went through many personal edits at the time so it would >hardly be anachronistic to edit it to one's specs. I would like to >think that there's something in there for everybody. >Sean > >On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:04 AM Jurgen Frenz ><[1][4]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > if it is for easy pieces to play or re-work basic technique I found > Lynda Says quarterly advice quite useful and the higher numbers are > not so easy either: > [2][5]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/beginners > Further there's a list of tentative "grades" of difficulty of lute > pieces, not everybody feels the same as we all have different > difficulties but nice to go through > [3][6]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/towards-lute-grades > Best wishes > JÃÆà ¼rgen > à ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢ Original Message à ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢ > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 5:23 AM, Sean Smith > <[4][7]lutesm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Both faves and we're lucky to have them. > > I know you like finding hidden things, Tristan. Go to the really > long > > [Dump] on f280 in the Marsh. There's a measure missing between 114 > and > > 115. Put in something you like or steal/adapt a measure from > elsewhere. > > Now here's the fun part, record it carefully, then play it against > the > > recording with a lag of 4 measures. It's not perfect but it works > kind > > of nicely. It will certainly keep you occupied for an afternoon or > two. > > ...and it's excellent metronome practice regardless. > > Whether it was meant that way is hard to say and, depending on > whom you > > talk to, even suggesting it is probably irresponsible with a touch > of > > 'shame on you!'. There's certainly no indication. It also starts a > > little abruptly so you might add a few C and G iterations on the > front > > end. > > Sean > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 8:13 PM Tristan von Neumann > > <[1][5][8]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > Many of you might have more time on their hands than usual. > > So here's a list of favorite books and manuscripts to play. > > * Marsh Lute Book. Fun for weeks. > > > [2][6][9]http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms > .z. > > 3.2.13_marsh_lute_book/pdf/ > > * Siena Ms. - it never fails to surprise > > > [3][7][10]http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS _ > 28. > > B.39_siena_lute_book_1590/pdf/ > > * If you want to concentrate on one piece: this one will keep you > > busy > > for a long time. > > > [4][8][11]http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_ 0 > 1.p > > df > > * he learned from the best: This book by Paladin is extremely > > charming > > and not too
[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
How can you be so certain that this is the earliest example of the Conde Claros? Best regards to everybody, Antonio On Sunday, 22 March 2020, 14:25:51 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann wrote: For some Condes Claros beginner fun, check out this duet (you can record the second part and play to it). It's also the earliest example. [1]http://gerbode.net/sources/E-SIM_simancas_archivo_general/leg_394_si mancas_vihuela_ms_1520/pdf/3_contrapunto_sobre_conde_claros.pdf The best beginner's book (I learned to play with it) is certainly the one by Hans Newsidler: [2]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_1/pdf/ [3]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_2/pdf/ The great thing is that Newsidler carefully progresses, introducing just one new aspect per piece. Also the first couple of pieces have only two voices, the third can optionally be sung (it's popular tunes everyone knew back then). Other books like Robinson's School of Music seem too difficult and unorganized for the beginner. Though Robinson is nice and the introduction helpful, it fails to create a learning curve. On 22.03.20 20:44, Sean Smith wrote: >You're right. It is long and involved and certainly has its difficult >bits. >It might be a project for someone with time on their hands to select >bits for easier sections to play. It has its parallels with Conde >Claros which went through many personal edits at the time so it would >hardly be anachronistic to edit it to one's specs. I would like to >think that there's something in there for everybody. >Sean > >On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:04 AM Jurgen Frenz ><[1][4]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > if it is for easy pieces to play or re-work basic technique I found > Lynda Says quarterly advice quite useful and the higher numbers are > not so easy either: > [2][5]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/beginners > Further there's a list of tentative "grades" of difficulty of lute > pieces, not everybody feels the same as we all have different > difficulties but nice to go through > [3][6]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/towards-lute-grades > Best wishes > JÃÃà ¼rgen > à ¢à ¢à ¢à ¢à ¢à ¢à ¢ Original Message à ¢à ¢à ¢à ¢à ¢à ¢à ¢ > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 5:23 AM, Sean Smith > <[4][7]lutesm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Both faves and we're lucky to have them. > > I know you like finding hidden things, Tristan. Go to the really > long > > [Dump] on f280 in the Marsh. There's a measure missing between 114 > and > > 115. Put in something you like or steal/adapt a measure from > elsewhere. > > Now here's the fun part, record it carefully, then play it against > the > > recording with a lag of 4 measures. It's not perfect but it works > kind > > of nicely. It will certainly keep you occupied for an afternoon or > two. > > ...and it's excellent metronome practice regardless. > > Whether it was meant that way is hard to say and, depending on > whom you > > talk to, even suggesting it is probably irresponsible with a touch > of > > 'shame on you!'. There's certainly no indication. It also starts a > > little abruptly so you might add a few C and G iterations on the > front > > end. > > Sean > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 8:13 PM Tristan von Neumann > > <[1][5][8]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > Many of you might have more time on their hands than usual. > > So here's a list of favorite books and manuscripts to play. > > * Marsh Lute Book. Fun for weeks. > > > [2][6][9]http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms > .z. > > 3.2.13_marsh_lute_book/pdf/ > > * Siena Ms. - it never fails to surprise > > > [3][7][10]http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS _ > 28. > > B.39_siena_lute_book_1590/pdf/ > > * If you want to concentrate on one piece: this one will keep you > > busy > > for a long time. > > > [4][8][11]http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_ 0 > 1.p > > df > > * he learned from the best: This book by Paladin is extremely > > charming > > and not too difficult > > [5][9][12]http://gerbode.net/sources/Paladin/Paladin_1560/pdf/ > > * in times like these... > > > [6][10][13]http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_154 7 > /v2/ > > pdf/040_corona_de_mas_hermosas.pdf
