Re: missing TeX class error

[Hans-Georg Stork]

Bennett,

I used i-installer version v2 (2.69.0) that comes with TeX-fat.dmg as  
described in http://ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html.


I am attaching the two LyX preference files (135 and 141) as you  
suggest. Also included is the LyX141 installation report (if that's  
of any value).


(As I said, LyX135 works flawlessly.)

Thx
George



preferences 135
Description: Binary data


preferences 141
Description: Binary data


Installation Report.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document



On 21. May 2006, at 4:06 Uhr, Bennett Helm wrote:


On May 20, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Hans-Georg Stork wrote:


Hi,

I am trying to upgrade from LyX 1.3.5 over teTeX (works perfectly)  
on Mac OS X 10.4.5 , to LyX 1.4.1


After running the installation script and launching LyX

the command File - New gives the message

The document uses a missing TeX class article ...

and that's it.

In fact there are lots of classes in /usr/local/teTeX/share/ 
texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base ...


but apparently LyX 1.4.1 does not find them (1.3.5 knows them all!!).

The Tools - reconfigure command is to no avail.

What happened?


We'll need more details. From what you say, I'm guessing you  
installed teTeX via i-Installer, right? Also, in LyX  Preferences  
 Paths, what is the setting for PATH prefix in LyX-1.3.5? in  
LyX-1.4.1?


(It would be good to have you send the entire preferences files for  
both 1.3.5 and 1.4.1. Perhaps there's a bug in the installation  
script I can discover.)


Bennett


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A debate topic: What can LyX still learn from scientific workplace?

[Jan Peters]

I have attempted to outline what LyX can still learn from scientific  
workplace
and vice versa. Its not the world but it is the part which makes the  
users

base change from enthusiasts to commoners. Please check out

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxVersusScientificWorkplace
http://www.jan-peters.net/Computer/LyxVsSwp

Feel free to drop me a line - I mainly want to start people to start  
thinking
what LyX needs to become commonplace ... and completely replace  
Scientific

Workplace on my desk and Word on my supervisors desk.

Best wishes,
-Jan

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Re: how many lyx users?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 anyone care to guess?

 how does the download stats look like?

Via kdeapps.org, LyX has been downloaded 4642 times since 1/04, which is rank 
3 of the text processing apps after scribus (13410 times) and kdissert 
(13399) and before kile (4637) and kword (3401).

But who knows how many of the people that downloaded LyX use it actually, how 
many downloaded it multiple times (different versions) and how many people 
got it from other places. After all, it's included in most distributions.

So I think it is hard to guess.

Jürgen

Re: missing TeX class error

[Bennett Helm]

On May 21, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Hans-Georg Stork wrote:


Bennett,

I used i-installer version v2 (2.69.0) that comes with TeX-fat.dmg  
as described in http://ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html.


I am attaching the two LyX preference files (135 and 141) as you  
suggest. Also included is the LyX141 installation report (if that's  
of any value).


The LyX141 installation report indicates that you had a LyX user's  
folder at ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.4 when you ran it, so  
it didn't change any of your user settings. (Did you run it  
twice? ... Did you have a LyX-1.4.0 installation previously?)


I don't see anything strange in the preference files. Your PATH  
Prefix settings are what I'd be worried about, and they're set  
correctly. So I'm puzzled why things aren't working after a Reconfigure.


Since you don't seem to have any special settings in your LyX-1.4  
preferences, try simply deleting that file and restarting LyX. Does  
that solve the problem?


Bennett

Re: how many lyx users?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Andreas K. schrieb:

But it would be interesting to see the download statistics for the different 
versions of LyX from ftp.lyx.org and the mirrors, especially the distribution 
of downloads for Windows, Mac and Linux.


The last stable LyX 1.3.7 Windows installer was downloaded about 5000 
times within two weeks, the first version with LyX 1.4.1 over 1000 
times. You can see the download statistics when you go to the download 
section of

http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lyxwininstall
Additionally the installer is at ftp.lyx.org and used internally at 
university networks, so I assume that there are more than 1 users of 
LyX for Windows.


regards Uwe

Re: how many lyx users?

[Martin A. Hansen]

wow.

perhaps lyx for windows have overtaken lyx for *nix?


martin


On 5/21/06, Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Andreas K. schrieb:

 But it would be interesting to see the download statistics for the
different
 versions of LyX from ftp.lyx.org and the mirrors, especially the
distribution
 of downloads for Windows, Mac and Linux.

The last stable LyX 1.3.7 Windows installer was downloaded about 5000
times within two weeks, the first version with LyX 1.4.1 over 1000
times. You can see the download statistics when you go to the download
section of
http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lyxwininstall
Additionally the installer is at ftp.lyx.org and used internally at
university networks, so I assume that there are more than 1 users of
LyX for Windows.

regards Uwe

Re: Equation numbering corresponding to section number

[Uwe Stöhr]

Liu Feng wrote:


It is great, I got it after set 'reqno' in option by Document class-class 
setting.
But I use 'book' class when I start my manuscript, but now it displays 
'book(AMS)', what is different between 'book' and 'book(AMS)', I know AMS 
presents American Math. Soc., But I wonder if 'book(AMS)' has the same format 
as 'book'


That shouldn't be possible, the textclass has to be unchanged. The 
default of book is: formula numbers are on the right side
So switch back from book(AMS) to book and delete the option reqno and 
it should work as you want it.


regards Uwe

Re: how many lyx users?

[Bo Peng]

perhaps lyx for windows have overtaken lyx for *nix?


This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
considering the dominance of the windows system.

Bo

Re: how many lyx users?

[Jose' Matos]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:
 This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
 considering the dominance of the windows system.

  We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx target 
users. It is not an easy computation at all. :-)

 Bo

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Re: PDF generation

[Uwe Stöhr]

Julio Rojas wrote:

Hi, I'm using 1.4.1 under XP. I'm trying to generate a PDF and the 
following

message is presented with both PDFLATEX and DVIPDFM:

No information for viewing PDF


This problems shouldn't occur when you installed LyX using this installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

The installer searches your system for a PDF viewer and registers it 
automatically. It also offers you to install the free PS- and PDF-viewer 
GSview.


regards Uwe

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 19 May 2006 11:56 am, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  May I suggest that you add these methods/tips to this page:
 
  http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF

 Done.
 /Paul

Thanks Paul and everyone,

That's a fantastic resource. Using it I was able to make my table of contents 
clickable, and also was able to have clickable URLs in my document.

I also discovered some things requiring even more knowledge than I have, and 
after a few hours of web search and experimentation failed, I sent this 
email...

1) The suggestions of \href{mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com} would not 
start the Mozilla email client, at least on my box. I click it and nothing 
happens. Any suggestions?

2) Whenever I insert a URL link (with text with spaces) into my document, it 
doesn't word wrap correctly. Specifically, the line it's on goes VERY long. 
The text forming the link will not wrap. As a result, I've had to limit my 
URLs to things that could be put on their own line. 

3) My book consists of a concatination of three PDFs. The cover is made with 
Gimp, the back of the cover is made with OpenOffice (too much fine tuning to 
do in LyX), and the rest of the document is done in LyX. The URLs on the back 
of the cover (made with OpenOffice) correctly pull up the web page when 
clicked within OpenOffice, but when I export to PDF, that ability is lost. 
How can I have OpenOffice URL links survive into PDF the way LyX links do, if 
you include hyperref?

Once again, thanks so much for the PDF FAQ. It let me do a bunch of stuff I'd 
wanted to do but had given up on.

SteveT


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Re: A debate topic: What can LyX still learn from scientific workplace?

[Bo Peng]

I think you have left out easy copy/paste and muti-window from SWP.
And if SWP has not fixed this problem, the undo feature of SWP sucks.

Bo

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document WORKAROUND

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 01:32 pm, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Friday 19 May 2006 11:56 am, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   May I suggest that you add these methods/tips to this page:
  
   http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF
 
  Done.
  /Paul

 Thanks Paul and everyone,
[clip]

 3) My book consists of a concatination of three PDFs. The cover is made
 with Gimp, the back of the cover is made with OpenOffice (too much fine
 tuning to do in LyX), and the rest of the document is done in LyX. The URLs
 on the back of the cover (made with OpenOffice) correctly pull up the web
 page when clicked within OpenOffice, but when I export to PDF, that ability
 is lost. How can I have OpenOffice URL links survive into PDF the way LyX
 links do, if you include hyperref?

I worked around it by creating a small LaTeX file with the same info and 
approximate layout as the OpenOffice doc, included hyperref, and it worked. 
I'd still like to know how to have OpenOffice web links passed through to the 
PDF.

SteveT

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How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes 
mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried 
through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX 
document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or ps2pdf, 
the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts from the 
first physical page.

Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change into 
the pdf file?

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: how many lyx users?

[Stephen Harris]

Jose' Matos wrote:

On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:

This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
considering the dominance of the windows system.


  We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx target 
users. It is not an easy computation at all. :-)



Bo




I am not sure exactly what Jose's remark is pointing out. Why?
LyX would not de-emphasize equation handling in response to an
increase in humanities academia or fiction book writers would it?
I can't see the LyX developing community accomodating a large
influx of Windows users by re-assessing goal priorities.

The older generation of university latex users are fixed into
mostly using Emacs or Vim which are both free. The newer generation
may elect to use Lyx because on average they are less technically
competent with *nix and would like a more gradual learning curve.

Out of 100 computer users, at least 90% are Windows users. LyX
for windows is a new free platform for them; an alternative to
the expensive WordPerfect, MS Office suites as well as SWP. So
they are the largest potential population to convert to LyX, as
they are most likely not habituated to an alternative. I don't
think it matters if fewer new Windows LyX users use equations
when compared to new *nix users, or what particular use Windows
users put Lyx to. Windows users are more likely to use LyX for
there Open Source software choice because of the more gradual
learning curve in comparison to *nix users who will have had a
greater exposure to alternative Open Source typesetters. What is
the point of quantifying it when LyX dev. won't cater to it anyway?

 We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx
 target users.

I doubt if you mean dual downloads of Linux and Windows LyX since
that would be of little significance. I think there is better
reason to correlate LyX usage with Windows downloads since there
are far fewer or more difficult free programs for Windows users in
comparison to what is available to *nix LyX users. As you can see
I tried to imagine what you meant but didn't grasp your point. For 
instance Kile will run natively on Linux and perhaps KDE Cygwin

but Windows users aren't going to install the added Cygwin OS to
get KDE in order to obtain Kile, but this is easy on Linux.

10,000 downloads for WinLyX 1.3.7 and 1.4.1 compared to say 7,000
downloads for Mac and various Linux and Unix flavors combined
doesn't require much interpretation about where the new user base
is originating. There is a latent *nix user base which doesn't
upgrade with new releases which will contribute to the overall
current usage of LyX, Linux vs. Windows, but this will dwindle,
and in a couple of years there will be Windows users who don't
upgrade to the newest version of LyX, to match this latency factor.

A LyX download by a Linux user has to compete with other free
choices, while a LyX download by a Windows user indicates not
wanting to pay for other costly and/or harder to learn choices.
Both WinLyx and LinLyx will suffer resistance from supervisors
or publishers who want submissions in Word.

Regards,
Stephen

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:

I also discovered some things requiring even more knowledge than I have, and 
after a few hours of web search and experimentation failed, I sent this 
email...


1) The suggestions of \href{mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com} would not 
start the Mozilla email client, at least on my box. I click it and nothing 
happens. Any suggestions?


Can't tell which suggestions you mean, given the e-mail return address. 
  Are you referring to a previous message here?


2) Whenever I insert a URL link (with text with spaces) into my document, it 
doesn't word wrap correctly. Specifically, the line it's on goes VERY long. 
The text forming the link will not wrap. As a result, I've had to limit my 
URLs to things that could be put on their own line. 


Try the URL package (url.sty, at 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/).


/Paul

pst-psf package didn't work for me

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I downloaded pst-pdf.zip from CTAN, unzipped it, and read the README, which to 
me made no sense and referenced a bunch of files that weren't contained in 
the zip.

So I put the pst-pdf.sty into directory /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/pst-pdf, 
ran texhash, put \usepackage{pst-pdf} into my lyx file, and 
View-PDF(pdflatex). It gave me 5 identical errors at the top of the file:

=
Illegal parameter number in definition of \next.
 \begin{document}
  
You meant to type ## instead of #, right?
Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things
are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##.
=

I know that it found pst-pdf.sty, because when I changed the filename to 
pst-pdfz within the \usepackage, the error changed to a not-found error. Just 
for fun, before \usepackage{pst-pdf} I put \usepackage{pstricks}, but that 
had no effect on the symptom.

I'm thinking that if I can get pst-pdf.sty to work, it might yield the 
frontmatter/mainmatter page numbering break I need in the PDF, but given the 
existing pst-pdf documentation I can't even get to first base.

Has anyone successfully used pst-pdf, and if so, what did you do differently 
from me?

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes 
mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried 
through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX 
document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or ps2pdf, 
the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts from the 
first physical page.


Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change into 
the pdf file?


I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter 
and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading, 
respectively).  Are you using a different class?  Can you post a small 
example?


/Paul

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:43 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Try the URL package (url.sty, at
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/).

 /Paul

Thanks Paul,

That worked, but intermittently. Sometimes it wrapped URLs and text links, and 
sometimes it let them stick way out to the left. There was no obvious 
differentiating factor between when it worked and when it didn't. Lacking the 
time to isolate the factors determining whether it worked, I put it aside for 
awhile.

Thanks for the suggestion.

SteveT

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Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:54 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes
  mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried
  through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX
  document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or
  ps2pdf, the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts
  from the first physical page.
 
  Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change
  into the pdf file?

 I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter
 and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading,
 respectively).  Are you using a different class?  Can you post a small
 example?

 /Paul

Thanks Paul,

Here's a fairly minimal test.lyx. On my system, when I View-Postscript, the 
gv page numbers reset at page 1 (gv pages 1, 1 and 2 correspond to logical 
pages i, 1 and 2). This is correct.

However, when I View-PDF(pdflatex) or any other conversion to pdf, my gv page 
numbers are 1, 2 and 3 corresponding to logical page numbers i, 1 and 2.  
This results in the gv page numbers not matching the logical page numbers.

It would be interesting to see if it acts the same way on your system.

I'm using lyx 1.3.5 Oct 6, 2004, which is what came with my Mandriva 2006 
Linux. I'd very much prefer not to upgrade until I'm completely through with 
my current book and have plenty of time to troubleshoot all my past books 
after upgrading my lyx to 1.4.whatever, which has *character styles!!!* (and 
thanks so much for the character styles).

Thanks

SteveT

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test.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:54 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter
 and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading,
 respectively).  Are you using a different class?

I'm using an adaptation of memoir, but in a previous email I sent a small 
example that exhibited the symptom with the book document class.

Thanks

SteveT

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references with no author

[Sara Stymne]

Hi!

I need to have some references with no author. One is a booklet without 
an author, and the other a webpage. I've added it in the bibtex file. 
But running bibtex on the commandline gives errors because I have 
neither author nor key in these entries. Adding a key makes the 
citations refer to the key, and gives the key as the author in the 
bibliography.


What I would like is that the citation should be referred to by the 
first word in the title in the in-text citations (now I get the first 
three letters..) And in the bibliography I would like it sorted on 
title. Now all authorless entries appear first in the bibliography.


Does anyone know how to get this?

/Sara

Re: how many lyx users?

[David Neeley]

Stephen,

Downloads from Lyx.org are deceptive, since various online
repositories have Lyx available for download as well--such as the
Ubuntu site, which unfortunately still has 1.3.7.

David

On 5/21/06, Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jose' Matos wrote:
 On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:
 This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
 considering the dominance of the windows system.

Re: missing TeX class error

[Hans-Georg Stork]

Bennett,

I used i-installer version v2 (2.69.0) that comes with TeX-fat.dmg as  
described in http://ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html.


I am attaching the two LyX preference files (135 and 141) as you  
suggest. Also included is the LyX141 installation report (if that's  
of any value).


(As I said, LyX135 works flawlessly.)

Thx
George



preferences 135
Description: Binary data


preferences 141
Description: Binary data


Installation Report.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document



On 21. May 2006, at 4:06 Uhr, Bennett Helm wrote:


On May 20, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Hans-Georg Stork wrote:


Hi,

I am trying to upgrade from LyX 1.3.5 over teTeX (works perfectly)  
on Mac OS X 10.4.5 , to LyX 1.4.1


After running the installation script and launching LyX

the command File - New gives the message

The document uses a missing TeX class article ...

and that's it.

In fact there are lots of classes in /usr/local/teTeX/share/ 
texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base ...


but apparently LyX 1.4.1 does not find them (1.3.5 knows them all!!).

The Tools - reconfigure command is to no avail.

What happened?


We'll need more details. From what you say, I'm guessing you  
installed teTeX via i-Installer, right? Also, in LyX  Preferences  
 Paths, what is the setting for PATH prefix in LyX-1.3.5? in  
LyX-1.4.1?


(It would be good to have you send the entire preferences files for  
both 1.3.5 and 1.4.1. Perhaps there's a bug in the installation  
script I can discover.)


Bennett


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A debate topic: What can LyX still learn from scientific workplace?

[Jan Peters]

I have attempted to outline what LyX can still learn from scientific  
workplace
and vice versa. Its not the world but it is the part which makes the  
users

base change from enthusiasts to commoners. Please check out

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxVersusScientificWorkplace
http://www.jan-peters.net/Computer/LyxVsSwp

Feel free to drop me a line - I mainly want to start people to start  
thinking
what LyX needs to become commonplace ... and completely replace  
Scientific

Workplace on my desk and Word on my supervisors desk.

Best wishes,
-Jan

===
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(CS,ME)

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], web: www.jan-peters.net
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Re: how many lyx users?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 anyone care to guess?

 how does the download stats look like?

Via kdeapps.org, LyX has been downloaded 4642 times since 1/04, which is rank 
3 of the text processing apps after scribus (13410 times) and kdissert 
(13399) and before kile (4637) and kword (3401).

But who knows how many of the people that downloaded LyX use it actually, how 
many downloaded it multiple times (different versions) and how many people 
got it from other places. After all, it's included in most distributions.

So I think it is hard to guess.

Jürgen

Re: missing TeX class error

[Bennett Helm]

On May 21, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Hans-Georg Stork wrote:


Bennett,

I used i-installer version v2 (2.69.0) that comes with TeX-fat.dmg  
as described in http://ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html.


I am attaching the two LyX preference files (135 and 141) as you  
suggest. Also included is the LyX141 installation report (if that's  
of any value).


The LyX141 installation report indicates that you had a LyX user's  
folder at ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.4 when you ran it, so  
it didn't change any of your user settings. (Did you run it  
twice? ... Did you have a LyX-1.4.0 installation previously?)


I don't see anything strange in the preference files. Your PATH  
Prefix settings are what I'd be worried about, and they're set  
correctly. So I'm puzzled why things aren't working after a Reconfigure.


Since you don't seem to have any special settings in your LyX-1.4  
preferences, try simply deleting that file and restarting LyX. Does  
that solve the problem?


Bennett

Re: how many lyx users?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Andreas K. schrieb:

But it would be interesting to see the download statistics for the different 
versions of LyX from ftp.lyx.org and the mirrors, especially the distribution 
of downloads for Windows, Mac and Linux.


The last stable LyX 1.3.7 Windows installer was downloaded about 5000 
times within two weeks, the first version with LyX 1.4.1 over 1000 
times. You can see the download statistics when you go to the download 
section of

http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lyxwininstall
Additionally the installer is at ftp.lyx.org and used internally at 
university networks, so I assume that there are more than 1 users of 
LyX for Windows.


regards Uwe

Re: how many lyx users?

[Martin A. Hansen]

wow.

perhaps lyx for windows have overtaken lyx for *nix?


martin


On 5/21/06, Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Andreas K. schrieb:

 But it would be interesting to see the download statistics for the
different
 versions of LyX from ftp.lyx.org and the mirrors, especially the
distribution
 of downloads for Windows, Mac and Linux.

The last stable LyX 1.3.7 Windows installer was downloaded about 5000
times within two weeks, the first version with LyX 1.4.1 over 1000
times. You can see the download statistics when you go to the download
section of
http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lyxwininstall
Additionally the installer is at ftp.lyx.org and used internally at
university networks, so I assume that there are more than 1 users of
LyX for Windows.

regards Uwe

Re: Equation numbering corresponding to section number

[Uwe Stöhr]

Liu Feng wrote:


It is great, I got it after set 'reqno' in option by Document class-class 
setting.
But I use 'book' class when I start my manuscript, but now it displays 
'book(AMS)', what is different between 'book' and 'book(AMS)', I know AMS 
presents American Math. Soc., But I wonder if 'book(AMS)' has the same format 
as 'book'


That shouldn't be possible, the textclass has to be unchanged. The 
default of book is: formula numbers are on the right side
So switch back from book(AMS) to book and delete the option reqno and 
it should work as you want it.


regards Uwe

Re: how many lyx users?

[Bo Peng]

perhaps lyx for windows have overtaken lyx for *nix?


This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
considering the dominance of the windows system.

Bo

Re: how many lyx users?

[Jose' Matos]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:
 This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
 considering the dominance of the windows system.

  We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx target 
users. It is not an easy computation at all. :-)

 Bo

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Re: PDF generation

[Uwe Stöhr]

Julio Rojas wrote:

Hi, I'm using 1.4.1 under XP. I'm trying to generate a PDF and the 
following

message is presented with both PDFLATEX and DVIPDFM:

No information for viewing PDF


This problems shouldn't occur when you installed LyX using this installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

The installer searches your system for a PDF viewer and registers it 
automatically. It also offers you to install the free PS- and PDF-viewer 
GSview.


regards Uwe

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 19 May 2006 11:56 am, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  May I suggest that you add these methods/tips to this page:
 
  http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF

 Done.
 /Paul

Thanks Paul and everyone,

That's a fantastic resource. Using it I was able to make my table of contents 
clickable, and also was able to have clickable URLs in my document.

I also discovered some things requiring even more knowledge than I have, and 
after a few hours of web search and experimentation failed, I sent this 
email...

1) The suggestions of \href{mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com} would not 
start the Mozilla email client, at least on my box. I click it and nothing 
happens. Any suggestions?

2) Whenever I insert a URL link (with text with spaces) into my document, it 
doesn't word wrap correctly. Specifically, the line it's on goes VERY long. 
The text forming the link will not wrap. As a result, I've had to limit my 
URLs to things that could be put on their own line. 

3) My book consists of a concatination of three PDFs. The cover is made with 
Gimp, the back of the cover is made with OpenOffice (too much fine tuning to 
do in LyX), and the rest of the document is done in LyX. The URLs on the back 
of the cover (made with OpenOffice) correctly pull up the web page when 
clicked within OpenOffice, but when I export to PDF, that ability is lost. 
How can I have OpenOffice URL links survive into PDF the way LyX links do, if 
you include hyperref?

Once again, thanks so much for the PDF FAQ. It let me do a bunch of stuff I'd 
wanted to do but had given up on.

SteveT


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Re: A debate topic: What can LyX still learn from scientific workplace?

[Bo Peng]

I think you have left out easy copy/paste and muti-window from SWP.
And if SWP has not fixed this problem, the undo feature of SWP sucks.

Bo

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document WORKAROUND

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 01:32 pm, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Friday 19 May 2006 11:56 am, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   May I suggest that you add these methods/tips to this page:
  
   http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF
 
  Done.
  /Paul

 Thanks Paul and everyone,
[clip]

 3) My book consists of a concatination of three PDFs. The cover is made
 with Gimp, the back of the cover is made with OpenOffice (too much fine
 tuning to do in LyX), and the rest of the document is done in LyX. The URLs
 on the back of the cover (made with OpenOffice) correctly pull up the web
 page when clicked within OpenOffice, but when I export to PDF, that ability
 is lost. How can I have OpenOffice URL links survive into PDF the way LyX
 links do, if you include hyperref?

I worked around it by creating a small LaTeX file with the same info and 
approximate layout as the OpenOffice doc, included hyperref, and it worked. 
I'd still like to know how to have OpenOffice web links passed through to the 
PDF.

SteveT

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How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes 
mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried 
through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX 
document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or ps2pdf, 
the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts from the 
first physical page.

Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change into 
the pdf file?

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: how many lyx users?

[Stephen Harris]

Jose' Matos wrote:

On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:

This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
considering the dominance of the windows system.


  We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx target 
users. It is not an easy computation at all. :-)



Bo




I am not sure exactly what Jose's remark is pointing out. Why?
LyX would not de-emphasize equation handling in response to an
increase in humanities academia or fiction book writers would it?
I can't see the LyX developing community accomodating a large
influx of Windows users by re-assessing goal priorities.

The older generation of university latex users are fixed into
mostly using Emacs or Vim which are both free. The newer generation
may elect to use Lyx because on average they are less technically
competent with *nix and would like a more gradual learning curve.

Out of 100 computer users, at least 90% are Windows users. LyX
for windows is a new free platform for them; an alternative to
the expensive WordPerfect, MS Office suites as well as SWP. So
they are the largest potential population to convert to LyX, as
they are most likely not habituated to an alternative. I don't
think it matters if fewer new Windows LyX users use equations
when compared to new *nix users, or what particular use Windows
users put Lyx to. Windows users are more likely to use LyX for
there Open Source software choice because of the more gradual
learning curve in comparison to *nix users who will have had a
greater exposure to alternative Open Source typesetters. What is
the point of quantifying it when LyX dev. won't cater to it anyway?

 We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx
 target users.

I doubt if you mean dual downloads of Linux and Windows LyX since
that would be of little significance. I think there is better
reason to correlate LyX usage with Windows downloads since there
are far fewer or more difficult free programs for Windows users in
comparison to what is available to *nix LyX users. As you can see
I tried to imagine what you meant but didn't grasp your point. For 
instance Kile will run natively on Linux and perhaps KDE Cygwin

but Windows users aren't going to install the added Cygwin OS to
get KDE in order to obtain Kile, but this is easy on Linux.

10,000 downloads for WinLyX 1.3.7 and 1.4.1 compared to say 7,000
downloads for Mac and various Linux and Unix flavors combined
doesn't require much interpretation about where the new user base
is originating. There is a latent *nix user base which doesn't
upgrade with new releases which will contribute to the overall
current usage of LyX, Linux vs. Windows, but this will dwindle,
and in a couple of years there will be Windows users who don't
upgrade to the newest version of LyX, to match this latency factor.

A LyX download by a Linux user has to compete with other free
choices, while a LyX download by a Windows user indicates not
wanting to pay for other costly and/or harder to learn choices.
Both WinLyx and LinLyx will suffer resistance from supervisors
or publishers who want submissions in Word.

Regards,
Stephen

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:

I also discovered some things requiring even more knowledge than I have, and 
after a few hours of web search and experimentation failed, I sent this 
email...


1) The suggestions of \href{mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com} would not 
start the Mozilla email client, at least on my box. I click it and nothing 
happens. Any suggestions?


Can't tell which suggestions you mean, given the e-mail return address. 
  Are you referring to a previous message here?


2) Whenever I insert a URL link (with text with spaces) into my document, it 
doesn't word wrap correctly. Specifically, the line it's on goes VERY long. 
The text forming the link will not wrap. As a result, I've had to limit my 
URLs to things that could be put on their own line. 


Try the URL package (url.sty, at 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/).


/Paul

pst-psf package didn't work for me

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I downloaded pst-pdf.zip from CTAN, unzipped it, and read the README, which to 
me made no sense and referenced a bunch of files that weren't contained in 
the zip.

So I put the pst-pdf.sty into directory /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/pst-pdf, 
ran texhash, put \usepackage{pst-pdf} into my lyx file, and 
View-PDF(pdflatex). It gave me 5 identical errors at the top of the file:

=
Illegal parameter number in definition of \next.
 \begin{document}
  
You meant to type ## instead of #, right?
Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things
are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##.
=

I know that it found pst-pdf.sty, because when I changed the filename to 
pst-pdfz within the \usepackage, the error changed to a not-found error. Just 
for fun, before \usepackage{pst-pdf} I put \usepackage{pstricks}, but that 
had no effect on the symptom.

I'm thinking that if I can get pst-pdf.sty to work, it might yield the 
frontmatter/mainmatter page numbering break I need in the PDF, but given the 
existing pst-pdf documentation I can't even get to first base.

Has anyone successfully used pst-pdf, and if so, what did you do differently 
from me?

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes 
mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried 
through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX 
document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or ps2pdf, 
the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts from the 
first physical page.


Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change into 
the pdf file?


I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter 
and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading, 
respectively).  Are you using a different class?  Can you post a small 
example?


/Paul

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:43 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Try the URL package (url.sty, at
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/).

 /Paul

Thanks Paul,

That worked, but intermittently. Sometimes it wrapped URLs and text links, and 
sometimes it let them stick way out to the left. There was no obvious 
differentiating factor between when it worked and when it didn't. Lacking the 
time to isolate the factors determining whether it worked, I put it aside for 
awhile.

Thanks for the suggestion.

SteveT

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Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:54 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes
  mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried
  through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX
  document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or
  ps2pdf, the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts
  from the first physical page.
 
  Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change
  into the pdf file?

 I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter
 and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading,
 respectively).  Are you using a different class?  Can you post a small
 example?

 /Paul

Thanks Paul,

Here's a fairly minimal test.lyx. On my system, when I View-Postscript, the 
gv page numbers reset at page 1 (gv pages 1, 1 and 2 correspond to logical 
pages i, 1 and 2). This is correct.

However, when I View-PDF(pdflatex) or any other conversion to pdf, my gv page 
numbers are 1, 2 and 3 corresponding to logical page numbers i, 1 and 2.  
This results in the gv page numbers not matching the logical page numbers.

It would be interesting to see if it acts the same way on your system.

I'm using lyx 1.3.5 Oct 6, 2004, which is what came with my Mandriva 2006 
Linux. I'd very much prefer not to upgrade until I'm completely through with 
my current book and have plenty of time to troubleshoot all my past books 
after upgrading my lyx to 1.4.whatever, which has *character styles!!!* (and 
thanks so much for the character styles).

Thanks

SteveT

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test.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:54 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter
 and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading,
 respectively).  Are you using a different class?

I'm using an adaptation of memoir, but in a previous email I sent a small 
example that exhibited the symptom with the book document class.

Thanks

SteveT

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references with no author

[Sara Stymne]

Hi!

I need to have some references with no author. One is a booklet without 
an author, and the other a webpage. I've added it in the bibtex file. 
But running bibtex on the commandline gives errors because I have 
neither author nor key in these entries. Adding a key makes the 
citations refer to the key, and gives the key as the author in the 
bibliography.


What I would like is that the citation should be referred to by the 
first word in the title in the in-text citations (now I get the first 
three letters..) And in the bibliography I would like it sorted on 
title. Now all authorless entries appear first in the bibliography.


Does anyone know how to get this?

/Sara

Re: how many lyx users?

[David Neeley]

Stephen,

Downloads from Lyx.org are deceptive, since various online
repositories have Lyx available for download as well--such as the
Ubuntu site, which unfortunately still has 1.3.7.

David

On 5/21/06, Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jose' Matos wrote:
 On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:
 This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
 considering the dominance of the windows system.

Re: missing TeX class error

[Hans-Georg Stork]

Bennett,

I used i-installer version v2 (2.69.0) that comes with TeX-fat.dmg as  
described in http://ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html.


I am attaching the two LyX preference files (135 and 141) as you  
suggest. Also included is the LyX141 installation report (if that's  
of any value).


(As I said, LyX135 works flawlessly.)

Thx
George



preferences 135
Description: Binary data


preferences 141
Description: Binary data


Installation Report.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document



On 21. May 2006, at 4:06 Uhr, Bennett Helm wrote:


On May 20, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Hans-Georg Stork wrote:


Hi,

I am trying to upgrade from LyX 1.3.5 over teTeX (works perfectly)  
on Mac OS X 10.4.5 , to LyX 1.4.1


After running the installation script and launching LyX

the command "File -> New" gives the message

"The document uses a missing TeX class article ..."

and that's it.

In fact there are lots of classes in /usr/local/teTeX/share/ 
texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base ...


but apparently LyX 1.4.1 does not find them (1.3.5 knows them all!!).

The "Tools -> reconfigure" command is to no avail.

What happened?


We'll need more details. From what you say, I'm guessing you  
installed teTeX via i-Installer, right? Also, in LyX > Preferences  
> Paths, what is the setting for PATH prefix in LyX-1.3.5? in  
LyX-1.4.1?


(It would be good to have you send the entire preferences files for  
both 1.3.5 and 1.4.1. Perhaps there's a bug in the installation  
script I can discover.)


Bennett


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A debate topic: What can LyX still learn from scientific workplace?

[Jan Peters]

I have attempted to outline what LyX can still learn from scientific  
workplace
and vice versa. Its not the world but it is the part which makes the  
users

base change from enthusiasts to "commoners". Please check out

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxVersusScientificWorkplace
http://www.jan-peters.net/Computer/LyxVsSwp

Feel free to drop me a line - I mainly want to start people to start  
thinking
what LyX needs to become commonplace ... and completely replace  
Scientific

Workplace on my desk and Word on my supervisors desk.

Best wishes,
-Jan

===
Jan Peters, Graduate Research Assistant, Dipl.Inf., Dipl.Ing., M.Sc. 
(CS,ME)

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], web: www.jan-peters.net
===

Re: how many lyx users?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Martin A. Hansen wrote:
> anyone care to guess?
>
> how does the download stats look like?

Via kdeapps.org, LyX has been downloaded 4642 times since 1/04, which is rank 
3 of the "text processing" apps after scribus (13410 times) and kdissert 
(13399) and before kile (4637) and kword (3401).

But who knows how many of the people that downloaded LyX use it actually, how 
many downloaded it multiple times (different versions) and how many people 
got it from other places. After all, it's included in most distributions.

So I think it is hard to guess.

Jürgen

Re: missing TeX class error

[Bennett Helm]

On May 21, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Hans-Georg Stork wrote:


Bennett,

I used i-installer version v2 (2.69.0) that comes with TeX-fat.dmg  
as described in http://ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html.


I am attaching the two LyX preference files (135 and 141) as you  
suggest. Also included is the LyX141 installation report (if that's  
of any value).


The LyX141 installation report indicates that you had a LyX user's  
folder at ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.4 when you ran it, so  
it didn't change any of your user settings. (Did you run it  
twice? ... Did you have a LyX-1.4.0 installation previously?)


I don't see anything strange in the preference files. Your PATH  
Prefix settings are what I'd be worried about, and they're set  
correctly. So I'm puzzled why things aren't working after a Reconfigure.


Since you don't seem to have any special settings in your LyX-1.4  
preferences, try simply deleting that file and restarting LyX. Does  
that solve the problem?


Bennett

Re: how many lyx users?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Andreas K. schrieb:

But it would be interesting to see the download statistics for the different 
versions of LyX from ftp.lyx.org and the mirrors, especially the distribution 
of downloads for Windows, Mac and Linux.


The last stable LyX 1.3.7 Windows installer was downloaded about 5000 
times within two weeks, the first version with LyX 1.4.1 over 1000 
times. You can see the download statistics when you go to the download 
section of

http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lyxwininstall
Additionally the installer is at ftp.lyx.org and used internally at 
university networks, so I assume that there are more than 1 users of 
LyX for Windows.


regards Uwe

Re: how many lyx users?

[Martin A. Hansen]

wow.

perhaps lyx for windows have overtaken lyx for *nix?


martin


On 5/21/06, Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Andreas K. schrieb:

> But it would be interesting to see the download statistics for the
different
> versions of LyX from ftp.lyx.org and the mirrors, especially the
distribution
> of downloads for Windows, Mac and Linux.

The last stable LyX 1.3.7 Windows installer was downloaded about 5000
times within two weeks, the first version with LyX 1.4.1 over 1000
times. You can see the download statistics when you go to the download
section of
http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lyxwininstall
Additionally the installer is at ftp.lyx.org and used internally at
university networks, so I assume that there are more than 1 users of
LyX for Windows.

regards Uwe

Re: Equation numbering corresponding to section number

[Uwe Stöhr]

Liu Feng wrote:


It is great, I got it after set 'reqno' in option by Document class->class 
setting.
But I use 'book' class when I start my manuscript, but now it displays 
'book(AMS)', what is different between 'book' and 'book(AMS)', I know AMS 
presents American Math. Soc., But I wonder if 'book(AMS)' has the same format 
as 'book'


That shouldn't be possible, the textclass has to be unchanged. The 
default of book is: formula numbers are on the right side
So switch back from book(AMS) to book and delete the option "reqno" and 
it should work as you want it.


regards Uwe

Re: how many lyx users?

[Bo Peng]

perhaps lyx for windows have overtaken lyx for *nix?


This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
considering the dominance of the windows system.

Bo

Re: how many lyx users?

[Jose' Matos]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:
> This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
> considering the dominance of the windows system.

  We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx target 
users. It is not an easy computation at all. :-)

> Bo

-- 
José Abílio

Re: PDF generation

[Uwe Stöhr]

Julio Rojas wrote:

Hi, I'm using 1.4.1 under XP. I'm trying to generate a PDF and the 
following

message is presented with both PDFLATEX and DVIPDFM:

"No information for viewing PDF"


This problems shouldn't occur when you installed LyX using this installer:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

The installer searches your system for a PDF viewer and registers it 
automatically. It also offers you to install the free PS- and PDF-viewer 
GSview.


regards Uwe

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 19 May 2006 11:56 am, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > May I suggest that you add these methods/tips to this page:
> >
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF
>
> Done.
> /Paul

Thanks Paul and everyone,

That's a fantastic resource. Using it I was able to make my table of contents 
clickable, and also was able to have clickable URLs in my document.

I also discovered some things requiring even more knowledge than I have, and 
after a few hours of web search and experimentation failed, I sent this 
email...

1) The suggestions of \href{mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com} would not 
start the Mozilla email client, at least on my box. I click it and nothing 
happens. Any suggestions?

2) Whenever I insert a URL link (with text with spaces) into my document, it 
doesn't word wrap correctly. Specifically, the line it's on goes VERY long. 
The text forming the link will not wrap. As a result, I've had to limit my 
URLs to things that could be put on their own line. 

3) My book consists of a concatination of three PDFs. The cover is made with 
Gimp, the back of the cover is made with OpenOffice (too much fine tuning to 
do in LyX), and the rest of the document is done in LyX. The URLs on the back 
of the cover (made with OpenOffice) correctly pull up the web page when 
clicked within OpenOffice, but when I export to PDF, that ability is lost. 
How can I have OpenOffice URL links survive into PDF the way LyX links do, if 
you include hyperref?

Once again, thanks so much for the PDF FAQ. It let me do a bunch of stuff I'd 
wanted to do but had given up on.

SteveT


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Re: A debate topic: What can LyX still learn from scientific workplace?

[Bo Peng]

I think you have left out easy copy/paste and muti-window from SWP.
And if SWP has not fixed this problem, the undo feature of SWP sucks.

Bo

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 01:32 pm, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Friday 19 May 2006 11:56 am, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > May I suggest that you add these methods/tips to this page:
> > >
> > > http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF
> >
> > Done.
> > /Paul
>
> Thanks Paul and everyone,
[clip]
>
> 3) My book consists of a concatination of three PDFs. The cover is made
> with Gimp, the back of the cover is made with OpenOffice (too much fine
> tuning to do in LyX), and the rest of the document is done in LyX. The URLs
> on the back of the cover (made with OpenOffice) correctly pull up the web
> page when clicked within OpenOffice, but when I export to PDF, that ability
> is lost. How can I have OpenOffice URL links survive into PDF the way LyX
> links do, if you include hyperref?

I worked around it by creating a small LaTeX file with the same info and 
approximate layout as the OpenOffice doc, included hyperref, and it worked. 
I'd still like to know how to have OpenOffice web links passed through to the 
PDF.

SteveT

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How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes 
mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried 
through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX 
document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or ps2pdf, 
the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts from the 
first physical page.

Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change into 
the pdf file?

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: how many lyx users?

[Stephen Harris]

Jose' Matos wrote:

On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:

This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
considering the dominance of the windows system.


  We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx target 
users. It is not an easy computation at all. :-)



Bo




I am not sure exactly what Jose's remark is pointing out. Why?
LyX would not de-emphasize equation handling in response to an
increase in humanities academia or fiction book writers would it?
I can't see the LyX developing community accomodating a large
influx of Windows users by re-assessing goal priorities.

The older generation of university latex users are fixed into
mostly using Emacs or Vim which are both free. The newer generation
may elect to use Lyx because on average they are less technically
competent with *nix and would like a more gradual learning curve.

Out of 100 computer users, at least 90% are Windows users. LyX
for windows is a new free platform for them; an alternative to
the expensive WordPerfect, MS Office suites as well as SWP. So
they are the largest potential population to convert to LyX, as
they are most likely not habituated to an alternative. I don't
think it matters if fewer new Windows LyX users use equations
when compared to new *nix users, or what particular use Windows
users put Lyx to. Windows users are more likely to use LyX for
there Open Source software choice because of the more gradual
learning curve in comparison to *nix users who will have had a
greater exposure to alternative Open Source typesetters. What is
the point of quantifying it when LyX dev. won't cater to it anyway?

> We have then to consider what is the usage of windows by the lyx
> target users.

I doubt if you mean dual downloads of Linux and Windows LyX since
that would be of little significance. I think there is better
reason to correlate LyX usage with Windows downloads since there
are far fewer or more difficult free programs for Windows users in
comparison to what is available to *nix LyX users. As you can see
I tried to imagine what you meant but didn't grasp your point. For 
instance Kile will run natively on Linux and perhaps KDE Cygwin

but Windows users aren't going to install the added Cygwin OS to
get KDE in order to obtain Kile, but this is easy on Linux.

10,000 downloads for WinLyX 1.3.7 and 1.4.1 compared to say 7,000
downloads for Mac and various Linux and Unix flavors combined
doesn't require much interpretation about where the new user base
is originating. There is a latent *nix user base which doesn't
upgrade with new releases which will contribute to the overall
current usage of LyX, Linux vs. Windows, but this will dwindle,
and in a couple of years there will be Windows users who don't
upgrade to the newest version of LyX, to match this latency factor.

A LyX download by a Linux user has to compete with other free
choices, while a LyX download by a Windows user indicates not
wanting to pay for other costly and/or harder to learn choices.
Both WinLyx and LinLyx will suffer resistance from supervisors
or publishers who want submissions in Word.

Regards,
Stephen

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:

I also discovered some things requiring even more knowledge than I have, and 
after a few hours of web search and experimentation failed, I sent this 
email...


1) The suggestions of \href{mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com} would not 
start the Mozilla email client, at least on my box. I click it and nothing 
happens. Any suggestions?


Can't tell which suggestions you mean, given the e-mail return address. 
  Are you referring to a previous message here?


2) Whenever I insert a URL link (with text with spaces) into my document, it 
doesn't word wrap correctly. Specifically, the line it's on goes VERY long. 
The text forming the link will not wrap. As a result, I've had to limit my 
URLs to things that could be put on their own line. 


Try the URL package (url.sty, at 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/).


/Paul

pst-psf package didn't work for me

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I downloaded pst-pdf.zip from CTAN, unzipped it, and read the README, which to 
me made no sense and referenced a bunch of files that weren't contained in 
the zip.

So I put the pst-pdf.sty into directory /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/pst-pdf, 
ran texhash, put \usepackage{pst-pdf} into my lyx file, and 
View->PDF(pdflatex). It gave me 5 identical errors at the top of the file:

=
Illegal parameter number in definition of \next.
 \begin{document}
  
You meant to type ## instead of #, right?
Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things
are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##.
=

I know that it found pst-pdf.sty, because when I changed the filename to 
pst-pdfz within the \usepackage, the error changed to a not-found error. Just 
for fun, before \usepackage{pst-pdf} I put \usepackage{pstricks}, but that 
had no effect on the symptom.

I'm thinking that if I can get pst-pdf.sty to work, it might yield the 
frontmatter/mainmatter page numbering break I need in the PDF, but given the 
existing pst-pdf documentation I can't even get to first base.

Has anyone successfully used pst-pdf, and if so, what did you do differently 
from me?

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes 
mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried 
through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX 
document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or ps2pdf, 
the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts from the 
first physical page.


Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change into 
the pdf file?


I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter 
and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading, 
respectively).  Are you using a different class?  Can you post a small 
example?


/Paul

Re: make a .pdf of part of a document

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:43 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> Try the URL package (url.sty, at
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/).
>
> /Paul

Thanks Paul,

That worked, but intermittently. Sometimes it wrapped URLs and text links, and 
sometimes it let them stick way out to the left. There was no obvious 
differentiating factor between when it worked and when it didn't. Lacking the 
time to isolate the factors determining whether it worked, I put it aside for 
awhile.

Thanks for the suggestion.

SteveT

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Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:54 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Like most books, my page numbering starts over when frontmatter becomes
> > mainmatter. When I export to postscript, that numbering change is carried
> > through and the gv program's page numbering reflects that of the LyX
> > document. However, when I make it into a pdf, either with pdflatex or
> > ps2pdf, the page numbering change is discarded and page numbering starts
> > from the first physical page.
> >
> > Any ideas how to do preserve my frontmatter/mainmatter page number change
> > into the pdf file?
>
> I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter
> and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading,
> respectively).  Are you using a different class?  Can you post a small
> example?
>
> /Paul

Thanks Paul,

Here's a fairly minimal test.lyx. On my system, when I View->Postscript, the 
gv page numbers reset at page 1 (gv pages 1, 1 and 2 correspond to logical 
pages i, 1 and 2). This is correct.

However, when I View->PDF(pdflatex) or any other conversion to pdf, my gv page 
numbers are 1, 2 and 3 corresponding to logical page numbers i, 1 and 2.  
This results in the gv page numbers not matching the logical page numbers.

It would be interesting to see if it acts the same way on your system.

I'm using lyx 1.3.5 Oct 6, 2004, which is what came with my Mandriva 2006 
Linux. I'd very much prefer not to upgrade until I'm completely through with 
my current book and have plenty of time to troubleshoot all my past books 
after upgrading my lyx to 1.4.whatever, which has *character styles!!!* (and 
thanks so much for the character styles).

Thanks

SteveT

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test.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: How to reset page number in a lyx generated pdf?

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:54 pm, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> I failed to reproduce this (using the book class, and with \frontmatter
> and \mainmatter in ERT before the title and first chapter heading,
> respectively).  Are you using a different class?

I'm using an adaptation of memoir, but in a previous email I sent a small 
example that exhibited the symptom with the book document class.

Thanks

SteveT

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references with no author

[Sara Stymne]

Hi!

I need to have some references with no author. One is a booklet without 
an author, and the other a webpage. I've added it in the bibtex file. 
But running bibtex on the commandline gives errors because I have 
neither author nor key in these entries. Adding a key makes the 
citations refer to the key, and gives the key as the author in the 
bibliography.


What I would like is that the citation should be referred to by the 
first word in the title in the in-text citations (now I get the first 
three letters..) And in the bibliography I would like it sorted on 
title. Now all authorless entries appear first in the bibliography.


Does anyone know how to get this?

/Sara

Re: how many lyx users?

[David Neeley]

Stephen,

Downloads from Lyx.org are deceptive, since various online
repositories have Lyx available for download as well--such as the
Ubuntu site, which unfortunately still has 1.3.7.

David

On 5/21/06, Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jose' Matos wrote:
> On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:21, Bo Peng wrote:
>> This is unlikely the case, but I would not be surprised either,
>> considering the dominance of the windows system.