Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:06 AM, leonid baranov wrote: > 4. > Given (1,2,3), what would be a compelling reason to prefer > the Tex-fonts + pdfLatex over XeTeX/LuaTeX? > Several thoughts: - XeTeX typesetting is in my experience inferior to pdflatex typesetting - For multilingual documents, TeX fonts encodings may quickly become a nightmare. XeTeX/LuaTeX plays much nicer since they're natively unicode - I'm not sure what's the status of XeTeX/LuaTeX "babel" equivalent (polyglossia, I think). Last time I tried I couldn't get it to work - pdflatex is stable and has be around for ages, while XeTeX/LuaTeX are quite new and may still be evolving - Most TeX fonts available in LyX are high-quality, while with XeTeX/LuaTeX you're free to choose as ugly a font as you will (tip: try Comic Sans) So it all really boils down to a trade-off, and a choice of what works fine for you. Liviu
Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
> No you don't. Leave all fonts at default setting. cm-super will select the right glyphs > automatically for you. (The default are the different shapes of the Computer modern fonts and > CM-super is their vector replacement.) ... > > If you really want to use another font than Computer modern, then use ttf/otf fonts via the docment > font settings option "use-non TeX fonts". For more info abot this option, see the LyX userGuide, > sec. 3.7 "Fonts and Text Styles" ... > All fonts that you can select via the document settings are installed. The next LyX version supports > a few more fonts, but thanks to XeTeX you can use nowadays every font you like as TTF or OTF font. Uwe, thanks for clarifications. But now I am wondering if I got you right on the implications of your answers? Suppose, a novice (as myself) wants to prepare an aesthetically looking PDF, with vector fonts, of a multilingual document. He leans to enjoy the conveniences of LyX/MiKTeX. Then he has at least 3 options: 1. Chose the "TeX"-fonts and rely on the wits of LyX/MiKTeX. If, say, a Cyrillic script is in heavy presence, then install 'cmcyr'+'cm-super' font packages. That leaves a freedom to vary the family (Serif|Sans|Typewriter) and many other attributes. But not the "design" -- that part of "look and feel" which is not captured by the above attributes. This locks the user within a single font "design" -- CM (Computer Modern); 2. Suppose there is a need to switch between several designs (say, in order to convey a touch of other times and places). There is still an option to stay with the "TeX-fonts". For instance, a Cyrillic package PSCyr offers several designs of Postscript fonts -- Academy, Handbook, College, Antiqua, Lazurski, and a number of others. But then the author is all by himself, no lifeline from LyX/MiKTeX. There is a hairball of issues revolving around the font management infrastructure (NFSS ?) behind the TeX, LaTeX and MiKTeX. The downsides: 2.1. Tons of reading, learning and experimenting. Quite a feat of heavy-lifting for a novice; 2.2. The entire idea does not sit well with the automation of MiKTeX. Hand-made changes in various files are useless for they will be wiped off come a next update "on-the-fly"; 2.3. Will the PSCyr fonts coexist peacefully with CM and, possibly, yet another package within same document? That might require a local stand-apart font installation, at the very least. Perhaps, some non-trivial TeX-programming, too. 3. Alternatively, one could opt to leave a scary tight underworld of "TeX-fonts". And step into a wide open sunny land of Open Type Fonts available through XeTeX/LuaTeX. The gains: 3.1. Plenty of beautiful OTF/TFF fonts preinstalled on Windows; 3.2. Even more of mighty flexible fonts are available from other sources. Linux Libertine is a notable example (thanks, Maria). 3.3. Switching between the different font designs any time any place is incredibly easy, just take a look at a sample at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XeTeX#Example 4. Given (1,2,3), what would be a compelling reason to prefer the Tex-fonts + pdfLatex over XeTeX/LuaTeX? 5. More specifically, if one chooses to go with XeTeX (or LuaTeX), 5.1. Would that cost one any problems with typesetting a math? 5.2. Would there be incompatibilities with the "pre-XeTeX" packages? Would one lose an access to some irreplaceable legacy code? I would appreciate your insight and opinion. Best regards, Leonid
Re: Bug mhchem-Czech
Am 13.03.2013 03:11, schrieb Jürgen Lange:
have you seen the attached lyx and pdf file?
The bug is, that mhchem in lyx does not format the symbolic arrow -> to a
chemical reaction arrow.
The latex code in lyx is \ce{->} as shown in lyx file.
In attachment an example of a correct formatted arrow in a pure English
document (without Czech).
Please compare both pdf outputs. Do you see the difference?
Now I see. I tested now all languages and the problem only occurs for Czech and Slovak. Could you
please inform the package author of mhchem about this bug? (if you like CC me)
thanks and regards
Uwe
Re: How to customize an IEEE-tran bibtex-style?
Clemens Eisserer gmail.com> writes: > Please forgive me this slightly off-topic question, but is it possible > to modify a bibtext style? Yes - if you know what you're doing. A BST file is basically source code for a program written in its own little language (a stack-oriented language). Learn the language and you can hack any BST file. Probably an easier approach is to build your own BST file using 'makebst'. The program interviews you and cobbles together a BST file according to your specifications. (I think -- been a while since I used it.) Paul
Re: editing math in lyx
1. Position the cursor just inside the numerator (you should see 'Font: textrm' in the status line). 2. Hit backspace (removing the font selection and reverting the numerator to normal math font). 3. Select the contents of the numerator. 4. Type '\textsf' and hit the space bar. It will appear to be overwriting the numerator, but when you hit the space bar the numerator contents will be there, in the new font. 5. Repeat for the denominator. Paul
Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
Maria, Very kind of you to share with others. The font is a treasure trove. Rich expressive capabilities. Especially, in multilingual environment. My 2 cents to using it. Platform: LyX/MiKTeX/Windows 7. I did as instructed at http://www.linuxlibertine.org/index.php?id=91&L=1 Downloaded the archived OTF files (Open Type Font). Unzipped into an auxiliary directory. Copied OTF-files into C:\Windows\Fonts. Restarted LyX. Selected "Document Settings > Fonts > Use non-Tex Fonts". The newly added Linux Libertine fonts were available through the drop down menu for fonts. For PDF generation, used "View > PDF(XeTeX)". Everything worked right away. Thank you, and best wishes, Leonid.
Re: editing a matrix
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Bob Alvarez wrote: > Section 4 of the Lyx Detailed Math manual describes how to set a Matrix > characteristics when I create it. > > What if I change my mind? Is there any way to edit the Matrix? > > In particular, how do I change the horizontal alignment? For example, go > from to rrcc. > The way I do this is to go to view->toolbars->table. The alignment options in the table toolbar work for matrices as well. > > Bob > > Jacob
Re: sponsoring horizontal scrollbar for tables and math (was: Re: [off-topic] LyX as a LaTeX table editor (and other selling advice))
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:17 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: > > On 03/13/2013 02:07 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > >> > > Of course, this does not mean I want the text spread out over a very long > > line like that, only the math block (or a table, perhaps). > > > Would any developer be interested in such a sponsored project? I think > there is sufficient demand to meet the funding requirements rather > quickly. > > This might be a good choice for Google's Summer of code 2013 which is currently open for orgs' submission (deadline is in 5 days: 3/18: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013?ModPagespeed=noscript). Any interest in reviving Lyx's application? I am willing to take care of coordinating the submission, but I am no coder. Are there devs interested in mentoring? Cheers, Stefano -- __ Stefano Franchi Associate Research Professor Department of Hispanic StudiesPh: +1 (979) 845-2125 Texas A&M University Fax: +1 (979) 845-6421 College Station, Texas, USA stef...@tamu.edu http://stefano.cleinias.org
Re: editing math in lyx
On 03/13/2013 09:29 AM, Csikos Bela wrote: Hello: How can I edit text written in math mode in lyx? An example: I write a fraction using \textrm for both the numerator and the denominator. Then I decide to change these to sans serif (textsf). How can I apply the change to the fraction's numerator and denominator? (ie. change the code \textrm to \textsf)? Erase what you had an redo it. Copy it out first, if you wish, and then paste it back. Richard
sponsoring horizontal scrollbar for tables and math (was: Re: [off-topic] LyX as a LaTeX table editor (and other selling advice))
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:17 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: > On 03/13/2013 02:07 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: >> >> LyX doesn't even show a horizontal scrollbar when the table is wider >> than the display. Which can result in the cursor being outside the >> display. >> >> Yes, that would be nice to fix. But there are workarounds, such as >> decreasing the size of the font in LyX. > > I have often wished for a horizontal scrollbar also within math mode. I > often work with very long lines in multiline equations, and in rough drafts > don't want to fight through making it fit on a page. I want to see the > whole line, as a line. I often reduce the font to the limit my old eyes can > endure, along with getting a widescreen monitor, and still at times I wish > for more. > > Of course, this does not mean I want the text spread out over a very long > line like that, only the math block (or a table, perhaps). > Would any developer be interested in such a sponsored project? I think there is sufficient demand to meet the funding requirements rather quickly. Regards, Liviu
Re: [off-topic] LyX as a LaTeX table editor (and other selling advice)
On 03/13/2013 02:07 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: LyX doesn't even show a horizontal scrollbar when the table is wider than the display. Which can result in the cursor being outside the display. Yes, that would be nice to fix. But there are workarounds, such as decreasing the size of the font in LyX. I have often wished for a horizontal scrollbar also within math mode. I often work with very long lines in multiline equations, and in rough drafts don't want to fight through making it fit on a page. I want to see the whole line, as a line. I often reduce the font to the limit my old eyes can endure, along with getting a widescreen monitor, and still at times I wish for more. Of course, this does not mean I want the text spread out over a very long line like that, only the math block (or a table, perhaps). -- David L. Johnson Department of Mathematics Lehigh University
Re: [off-topic] LyX as a LaTeX table editor (and other selling advice)
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> The selling point to adopting LyX, at least for some tasks, was the >> table editing. > > *cough* > > This is one of the issues where LyX still needs quite a bit of work > imho. > There definitely are rough edges, but for someone accustomed to the pain of editing a table in LaTeX, LyX comes as a huge improvement. > As it is now, it's pretty unusable, unless you hard-code column (or > table) widths in your document. > Isn't this something directly related to LaTeX? > LyX doesn't even show a horizontal scrollbar when the table is wider > than the display. Which can result in the cursor being outside the > display. > Yes, that would be nice to fix. But there are workarounds, such as decreasing the size of the font in LyX. Liviu > Sincerely, > > Wolfgang -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
editing math in lyx
Hello: How can I edit text written in math mode in lyx? An example: I write a fraction using \textrm for both the numerator and the denominator. Then I decide to change these to sans serif (textsf). How can I apply the change to the fraction's numerator and denominator? (ie. change the code \textrm to \textsf)? Thanks, bcsikos
Re: [off-topic] LyX as a LaTeX table editor (and other selling advice)
> The selling point to adopting LyX, at least for some tasks, was the > table editing. *cough* This is one of the issues where LyX still needs quite a bit of work imho. As it is now, it's pretty unusable, unless you hard-code column (or table) widths in your document. LyX doesn't even show a horizontal scrollbar when the table is wider than the display. Which can result in the cursor being outside the display. Sincerely, Wolfgang
Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
On 2013-03-12, leonid baranov wrote: ... > And then there is no headache anymore to decide > a latex font encoding. There is no need for manually setting the font encoding, as this is done by LyX. This may explain the problems with XeTeX/LuaTeX, as even these TeX engines use "TeX fonts" if you set a "TeX font encoding" with "fontenc" in the user preamble. Günter
Re: Linux Libertine install; was:Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
On 2013-03-13, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann
> wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 12:37:03 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
>>> wrote:
...
>>> > could you give some more advice for using linuxlibertine in LyX or
>>> > point to relevant sites?
>>> > Is it sufficient to
>>> > document settings>Fonts>X use non TeX fonts...
>>> > or does one have to select at other places more?
>>> >
>>> > If I choose
>>> > use non TeX fonts,
>>> > I can't see the linuxlibertine in the dropdown menu.
>>> >
>>> > Is this font in the texlive2012 or has it to be downloaded (from
>>> > where?).
...
> I think Libertine can be used as a TeX font, but I usually select it
> via non-TeX fonts.
Yes, Linux Libertine is available as both, TeX and OTF (system) font.
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/libertine
However, native LyX support may be missing. For use as TeX font, set the
font-buttons to Default and add
\usepackage{libertine}
to the LaTeX preamble. (See the Package Documentation for details and
options.)
Günter
Re: [off-topic] LyX as a LaTeX table editor (and other selling advice)
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:45 PM, stefano franchi wrote: > Continuous spell-checking is a fairly common editor's feature nowadays. > Linux's Kile (a Latex editor) has it, for instance, and it is based on > standard KDE components. As much as I love Lyx's spellchecker (and I > wouldn't be able to work without it), I would hesitate to sell Lyx over > Latex on it. > However if the LaTeX user is used to spell-checking, then selling LyX without stressing the feature would be a deal-breaker. :) Anyways, I'm not that familiar with LaTeX editors, and this specific colleague was using one without a spell-checking feature. Oh, one other point.. My pitch for selling LyX is that it is "like Word for LaTeX". And then I start clicking around to show how intuitive all is, and display the source pane to show them what they would have had to type to get that specific construct (including math). I think this delivers the message rather well. Cheers, Liviu
How to customize an IEEE-tran bibtex-style?
Hello, Please forgive me this slightly off-topic question, but is it possible to modify a bibtext style? I am using IEEEtran, and I am a bit unsatisfied with some of its conventions, like: - IEEEtran prints "vol." whereas I would prefer "Volume". - IEEEtran has a weird style of concatenating many names, resulting in author-fields like: "H. P. H. C. R. J. T. R. M. D. S. J. A. Kahle, M. N. Day," On the other side, IEEEtran has a good-looking format and does handle URLs, thats why I would keep it in the first place. Thank you in advance and sorry for the traffic here. - Clemens
Re: [off-topic] LyX as a LaTeX table editor (and other selling advice)
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > The other selling point was the continuous spellchecking function. In > pure LaTeX they were used to making a lot of unnecessary orthographic > mistakes, while in 2.0 many of those can be avoided. However it turns > out that this functionality is so very well hidden (in Prefs > > Language) that it took me to specifically point it out for the user to > become aware that it existed (sorry for my convoluted English). In > this sense addressing http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8589 would > improve novices' experience with LyX. > Continuous spell-checking is a fairly common editor's feature nowadays. Linux's Kile (a Latex editor) has it, for instance, and it is based on standard KDE components. As much as I love Lyx's spellchecker (and I wouldn't be able to work without it), I would hesitate to sell Lyx over Latex on it. (Tables are a different issue, of course, and Liviu's point is well-taken and worth remembering) Cheers, S. -- __ Stefano Franchi Associate Research Professor Department of Hispanic StudiesPh: +1 (979) 845-2125 Texas A&M University Fax: +1 (979) 845-6421 College Station, Texas, USA stef...@tamu.edu http://stefano.cleinias.org
Re: Linux Libertine install; was:Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann > wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 12:37:03 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann > >> > >> wrote: > >> > Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 01:39:45 schrieb Maria Gouskova: > >> >> Leonid, > >> >> > >> >> This isn't going to fix your other issues, but let me recommend a > >> >> good Unicode font that's free/open source and works well with > >> >> Cyrillic: Linux Libertine. There is a recent-ish patch that > >> >> addresses some Cyrillic issues there, too. > >> >> > >> >> http://linuxlibertine.org > >> > > >> > Hi, Maria > >> > > >> > could you give some more advice for using linuxlibertine in LyX or > >> > point to relevant sites? > >> > Is it sufficient to > >> > document settings>Fonts>X use non TeX fonts... > >> > or does one have to select at other places more? > >> > > >> > If I choose > >> > use non TeX fonts, > >> > I can't see the linuxlibertine in the dropdown menu. > >> > > >> > Is this font in the texlive2012 or has it to be downloaded (from > >> > where?). > >> > >> If using Debian/Ubuntu, you can install it via apt: fonts-linuxlibertine > >> > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libertine&searchon=names&suit > >> e=all§ion=all > >> > >> Liviu > > > > Thanks, Liviu > > > > would it be installed in texlive>2012>texmf>fonts>(type1??) > > or rather in texmf>fonts>>(type1??) > > which are both on my /home/user/ > > next to each other > > > > and a texhash would be sufficient? > > > I think Libertine can be used as a TeX font, but I usually select it > via non-TeX fonts. > > Liviu > I've got a Mac here so I installed the OTF fonts the usual Mac way (download the .tgz, drag all the .otf files therein into ~/Library/Fonts/). In LyX, Linux Libertine doesn't appear as a choice for me unless "Use non-TeX fonts" is checked. Then I select it and Linux Biolinum in the drop-down menu and everything works (if pdf'd via XeTeX, anyway). Maria
Re: Linux Libertine install; was:Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 12:37:03 schrieb Liviu Andronic: >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann >> >> wrote: >> > Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 01:39:45 schrieb Maria Gouskova: >> >> Leonid, >> >> >> >> This isn't going to fix your other issues, but let me recommend a >> >> good Unicode font that's free/open source and works well with >> >> Cyrillic: Linux Libertine. There is a recent-ish patch that >> >> addresses some Cyrillic issues there, too. >> >> >> >> http://linuxlibertine.org >> > >> > Hi, Maria >> > >> > could you give some more advice for using linuxlibertine in LyX or >> > point to relevant sites? >> > Is it sufficient to >> > document settings>Fonts>X use non TeX fonts... >> > or does one have to select at other places more? >> > >> > If I choose >> > use non TeX fonts, >> > I can't see the linuxlibertine in the dropdown menu. >> > >> > Is this font in the texlive2012 or has it to be downloaded (from >> > where?). >> >> If using Debian/Ubuntu, you can install it via apt: fonts-linuxlibertine >> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libertine&searchon=names&suit >> e=all§ion=all >> >> Liviu > > Thanks, Liviu > > would it be installed in texlive>2012>texmf>fonts>(type1??) > or rather in texmf>fonts>>(type1??) > which are both on my /home/user/ > next to each other > > and a texhash would be sufficient? > I think Libertine can be used as a TeX font, but I usually select it via non-TeX fonts. Liviu
Linux Libertine install; was:Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 12:37:03 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann > > wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 01:39:45 schrieb Maria Gouskova: > >> Leonid, > >> > >> This isn't going to fix your other issues, but let me recommend a > >> good Unicode font that's free/open source and works well with > >> Cyrillic: Linux Libertine. There is a recent-ish patch that > >> addresses some Cyrillic issues there, too. > >> > >> http://linuxlibertine.org > > > > Hi, Maria > > > > could you give some more advice for using linuxlibertine in LyX or > > point to relevant sites? > > Is it sufficient to > > document settings>Fonts>X use non TeX fonts... > > or does one have to select at other places more? > > > > If I choose > > use non TeX fonts, > > I can't see the linuxlibertine in the dropdown menu. > > > > Is this font in the texlive2012 or has it to be downloaded (from > > where?). > > If using Debian/Ubuntu, you can install it via apt: fonts-linuxlibertine > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libertine&searchon=names&suit > e=all§ion=all > > Liviu Thanks, Liviu would it be installed in texlive>2012>texmf>fonts>(type1??) or rather in texmf>fonts>>(type1??) which are both on my /home/user/ next to each other and a texhash would be sufficient? Wolfgang
Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 01:39:45 schrieb Maria Gouskova: >> Leonid, >> >> This isn't going to fix your other issues, but let me recommend a good >> Unicode font that's free/open source and works well with Cyrillic: Linux >> Libertine. There is a recent-ish patch that addresses some Cyrillic >> issues there, too. >> >> http://linuxlibertine.org >> > Hi, Maria > > could you give some more advice for using linuxlibertine in LyX or point to > relevant sites? > Is it sufficient to > document settings>Fonts>X use non TeX fonts... > or does one have to select at other places more? > > If I choose > use non TeX fonts, > I can't see the linuxlibertine in the dropdown menu. > > Is this font in the texlive2012 or has it to be downloaded (from where?). > If using Debian/Ubuntu, you can install it via apt: fonts-linuxlibertine http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libertine&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all Liviu > Thanks for your attention, > > Wolfgang -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
Re: Vector Fonts for Russian-English LyX document
Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013, 01:39:45 schrieb Maria Gouskova: > Leonid, > > This isn't going to fix your other issues, but let me recommend a good > Unicode font that's free/open source and works well with Cyrillic: Linux > Libertine. There is a recent-ish patch that addresses some Cyrillic > issues there, too. > > http://linuxlibertine.org > Hi, Maria could you give some more advice for using linuxlibertine in LyX or point to relevant sites? Is it sufficient to document settings>Fonts>X use non TeX fonts... or does one have to select at other places more? If I choose use non TeX fonts, I can't see the linuxlibertine in the dropdown menu. Is this font in the texlive2012 or has it to be downloaded (from where?). Thanks for your attention, Wolfgang
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Am Dienstag, 12. März 2013, 23:49:03 schrieb Csikos Bela:
snip
> >2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption
> >of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert->Footnote menu
> >>item in this case.
>
> I don't know about this one.
in preamble:
\usepackage{footnote} % Ermöglicht Fußnoten in gleitenden Umgebungen
Wolfgang
