Re: Slow, lacking scroll and cursor (LyX 2 -- Ubuntu 11.04)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:01:35PM +0200, Stephan Witt wrote:
 This is what I had expected. 
 It looks like the drawing operations send to the X-Server are too expensive.
 Unfortunately I don't have a modern Linux desktop system at hand.
 I'm using OpenSuSE 11.2 and a somewhat outdated Qt-Library.

The magic incantation to solve this problem is:

git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt.git
cd qt
./configure -prefix `pwd`
make

[or alternatively, ./configure  make  sudo make install]

Andre' 

Re: Slow, lacking scroll and cursor (LyX 2 -- Ubuntu 11.04)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:01:35PM +0200, Stephan Witt wrote:
 This is what I had expected. 
 It looks like the drawing operations send to the X-Server are too expensive.
 Unfortunately I don't have a modern Linux desktop system at hand.
 I'm using OpenSuSE 11.2 and a somewhat outdated Qt-Library.

The magic incantation to solve this problem is:

git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt.git
cd qt
./configure -prefix `pwd`
make

[or alternatively, ./configure  make  sudo make install]

Andre' 

Re: Slow, lacking scroll and cursor (LyX 2 -- Ubuntu 11.04)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:01:35PM +0200, Stephan Witt wrote:
> This is what I had expected. 
> It looks like the drawing operations send to the X-Server are too expensive.
> Unfortunately I don't have a "modern" Linux desktop system at hand.
> I'm using OpenSuSE 11.2 and a somewhat outdated Qt-Library.

The magic incantation to solve this problem is:

git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt.git
cd qt
./configure -prefix `pwd`
make

[or alternatively, ./configure && make && sudo make install]

Andre' 

Re: Latex - absolute beginners

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 01:21:45AM +0200, Marc Wijnand wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am trying to learn how to make a document with Latex. I am working on Mac 
 OS X and I installed MacTex and LyX.
 I just typed
 
   \documentclass{document}
   
   \begin{document}
   Hello world!
   \end{document}
 
 but when trying to make a pdf, I get this error message:


 
 What did I do wrong?

Just type

Hello world!

and make a pdf from it.

Andre'

Re: Latex - absolute beginners

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 01:21:45AM +0200, Marc Wijnand wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am trying to learn how to make a document with Latex. I am working on Mac 
 OS X and I installed MacTex and LyX.
 I just typed
 
   \documentclass{document}
   
   \begin{document}
   Hello world!
   \end{document}
 
 but when trying to make a pdf, I get this error message:


 
 What did I do wrong?

Just type

Hello world!

and make a pdf from it.

Andre'

Re: Latex - absolute beginners

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 01:21:45AM +0200, Marc Wijnand wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am trying to learn how to make a document with Latex. I am working on Mac 
> OS X and I installed MacTex and LyX.
> I just typed
> 
>   \documentclass{document}
>   
>   \begin{document}
>   Hello world!
>   \end{document}
> 
> but when trying to make a pdf, I get this error message:


> 
> What did I do wrong?

Just type

Hello world!

and make a pdf from it.

Andre'

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 04:42:24PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 February 2011 16:02:08 Liviu Andronic wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John j200...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello: I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I
   am editing, then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then
   click back on the Lyx text to make a change, all too often the
   screen wildly jumps to some other part of the document.
  
  There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
  shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].  Liviu
 
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:17:07AM +0100, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
 
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?
 xforms was being discussed lately.
 
 Andre'
 
 Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

Super cool cross-platform toolkit. Runs on several version of Unix, even
in parallel, with multiple users logged in, on Fridays. Also available
on Mac using darwin ports, and probably even on properly configured
Windows machines (i.e. with X server running)

Comes with a feature rich gui designer called 'fdesign' and incredible
unicode support. Lightweight by design, robust, mature, and easily 
maintainable by core LyX contributors.

Oh, and it uses git: git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/xforms.git 

Andre'

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 04:42:24PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 February 2011 16:02:08 Liviu Andronic wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John j200...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello: I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I
   am editing, then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then
   click back on the Lyx text to make a change, all too often the
   screen wildly jumps to some other part of the document.
  
  There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
  shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].  Liviu
 
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:17:07AM +0100, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
 
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?
 xforms was being discussed lately.
 
 Andre'
 
 Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

Super cool cross-platform toolkit. Runs on several version of Unix, even
in parallel, with multiple users logged in, on Fridays. Also available
on Mac using darwin ports, and probably even on properly configured
Windows machines (i.e. with X server running)

Comes with a feature rich gui designer called 'fdesign' and incredible
unicode support. Lightweight by design, robust, mature, and easily 
maintainable by core LyX contributors.

Oh, and it uses git: git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/xforms.git 

Andre'

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 04:42:24PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 February 2011 16:02:08 Liviu Andronic wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John  wrote:
> > > Hello: I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I
> > > am editing, then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then
> > > click back on the Lyx text to make a change, all too often the
> > > screen wildly jumps to some other part of the document.
> > 
> > There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
> > shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].  Liviu
> 
> Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
> library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:17:07AM +0100, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
> 
> >>Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
> >>library in the future?
> >xforms was being discussed lately.
> >
> >Andre'
> 
> Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

Super cool cross-platform toolkit. Runs on several version of Unix, even
in parallel, with multiple users logged in, on Fridays. Also available
on Mac using darwin ports, and probably even on properly configured
Windows machines (i.e. with X server running)

Comes with a feature rich gui designer called 'fdesign' and incredible
unicode support. Lightweight by design, robust, mature, and easily 
maintainable by core LyX contributors.

Oh, and it uses git: git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/xforms.git 

Andre'

Re: LyX does not insert amp; when inserting a quot;Splitquot; environment

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  It is now (#6700).  Do I get any sort of prize for entering a ticket that 
  hits a century mark?  ;-)
 
 i will buy you a beer if you come to the next devel meeting :)

There haven't been any meetings for a while...

Andre'

Re: LyX does not insert amp; when inserting a quot;Splitquot; environment

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  It is now (#6700).  Do I get any sort of prize for entering a ticket that 
  hits a century mark?  ;-)
 
 i will buy you a beer if you come to the next devel meeting :)

There haven't been any meetings for a while...

Andre'

Re: LyX does not insert when inserting a Split environment

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > It is now (#6700).  Do I get any sort of prize for entering a ticket that 
> > hits a century mark?  ;-)
> 
> i will buy you a beer if you come to the next devel meeting :)

There haven't been any meetings for a while...

Andre'

Re: LyZ: LyX plugin for Zotero

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:21:19AM +1100, Typhoon wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:49:12 -0500
 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:
  The term bibliography can mean a few different things. One thing it 
  can mean is just a reference list, and that's what it means in LyX
  and LaTeX, though you can add non-cited sources to the bibliography
  if you wish. It can also mean something like a collection of sources
  on some topic, such as when I tell a student, Compile a bibliography
  on Descartes's version of the ontological argument.
 
 Such cruelty should be reported to the authorities :-).

He typed that sentence in an email, that's good enough as a report to the
authorities nowadays...

Andre'

Re: LyZ: LyX plugin for Zotero

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:21:19AM +1100, Typhoon wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:49:12 -0500
 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:
  The term bibliography can mean a few different things. One thing it 
  can mean is just a reference list, and that's what it means in LyX
  and LaTeX, though you can add non-cited sources to the bibliography
  if you wish. It can also mean something like a collection of sources
  on some topic, such as when I tell a student, Compile a bibliography
  on Descartes's version of the ontological argument.
 
 Such cruelty should be reported to the authorities :-).

He typed that sentence in an email, that's good enough as a report to the
authorities nowadays...

Andre'

Re: LyZ: LyX plugin for Zotero

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:21:19AM +1100, Typhoon wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:49:12 -0500
> rgheck  wrote:
> > The term "bibliography" can mean a few different things. One thing it 
> > can mean is just a reference list, and that's what it means in LyX
> > and LaTeX, though you can add non-cited sources to the bibliography
> > if you wish. It can also mean something like a collection of sources
> > on some topic, such as when I tell a student, "Compile a bibliography
> > on Descartes's version of the ontological argument".
> 
> Such cruelty should be reported to the authorities :-).

He typed that sentence in an email, that's good enough as a report to the
authorities nowadays...

Andre'

Re: strange compiler error

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 03:09:53PM +0100, bb wrote:
 I compiled lyx about a dozen times in the last month and did not have  
 any problem beside the usual missing packages. I run lyx on a 64 bit  
 ubuntu 9.10, debian and others. I downloaded from the lyx homepage. As I  
 tried to compile today on an ubuntu 9.10 running on an amd, I got some  
 problems, some data here:

Do you have a C++ compiler installed? What say 'apt-get install g++'?

Andre'

Re: strange compiler error

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 03:09:53PM +0100, bb wrote:
 I compiled lyx about a dozen times in the last month and did not have  
 any problem beside the usual missing packages. I run lyx on a 64 bit  
 ubuntu 9.10, debian and others. I downloaded from the lyx homepage. As I  
 tried to compile today on an ubuntu 9.10 running on an amd, I got some  
 problems, some data here:

Do you have a C++ compiler installed? What say 'apt-get install g++'?

Andre'

Re: strange compiler error

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 03:09:53PM +0100, bb wrote:
> I compiled lyx about a dozen times in the last month and did not have  
> any problem beside the usual missing packages. I run lyx on a 64 bit  
> ubuntu 9.10, debian and others. I downloaded from the lyx homepage. As I  
> tried to compile today on an ubuntu 9.10 running on an amd, I got some  
> problems, some data here:

Do you have a C++ compiler installed? What say 'apt-get install g++'?

Andre'

Re: LyX Server on XP?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:34:10AM +, Ken wrote:
 There have been some edits to the wiki at the bottom of the page which
 are very good.  But perhaps some of the rest of the page needs a bit
 of reworking.
 
 Some general comments:
 (1) Using LyXServer On Windows is at the bottom of the page whereas
 using it in UNIX or OS/2 is at the top.

Maybe that's because Windows users tend to read from bottom to top
whereas *nix folks read from top to bottom. (And write mail accordingly...)

SCNR, it's Friday after all.

Andre'

Re: LyX Server on XP?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:34:10AM +, Ken wrote:
 There have been some edits to the wiki at the bottom of the page which
 are very good.  But perhaps some of the rest of the page needs a bit
 of reworking.
 
 Some general comments:
 (1) Using LyXServer On Windows is at the bottom of the page whereas
 using it in UNIX or OS/2 is at the top.

Maybe that's because Windows users tend to read from bottom to top
whereas *nix folks read from top to bottom. (And write mail accordingly...)

SCNR, it's Friday after all.

Andre'

Re: LyX Server on XP?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:34:10AM +, Ken wrote:
> There have been some edits to the wiki at the bottom of the page which
> are very good.  But perhaps some of the rest of the page needs a bit
> of reworking.
> 
> Some general comments:
> (1) Using LyXServer "On Windows" is at the bottom of the page whereas
> using it in UNIX or OS/2 is at the top.

Maybe that's because Windows users tend to read from bottom to top
whereas *nix folks read from top to bottom. (And write mail accordingly...)

SCNR, it's Friday after all.

Andre'

Re: CAS exposure in LyX (was Re: Importing Lyx files in SWP)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:39:42AM +, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 Hello
 
 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:34 PM, rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:
  On 11/23/2009 02:05 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
  If I am not mistaking, symbolic calculations can be performed in LyX
  via maxima, octave, etc.
 
  I don't know how current the support is, but yes, there are routines in
  mathed that support exporting to these sorts of formats: Mathematica, too.
  So some work may need to be done, but we don't see a lot of requests for
  this kind of thing. I haven't seen anyone working on it since I've been
  involved in LyX.
 
 One of the reasons for so few requests could be that the nifty feature
 is so well hidden. Other than not being mentioned on the features page
 [1], I couldn't find info on CAS (maxima and the likes) in any of the
 possible documentation files, from Introduction through Math. Even the
 feature-poll page contains a non-greened-out request for CAS [2]. In
 the GUI, it is not much simpler. After having written a math
 expression (say, 'x+x'), right-clicking on the math env will not show
 anything CAS-related, while the math toolbars do not propose anything
 obvious.
 
 Thus, to discover the CAS support in LyX a user would need to go the
 sometimes improbable way of writing in math env and, while there,
 accessing the Edit  Math  Use CAS menu. Of course, an alternative
 path would be Google.

The current CAS support in LyX is a toy, no more. Really. There is not
enough flesh to justify documentation. It would not take lot of effort
to make it work considerably better, but seemingly there was not enough
interest in the last six or eight years to make that happen.

Andre'

Re: CAS exposure in LyX (was Re: Importing Lyx files in SWP)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:39:42AM +, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 Hello
 
 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:34 PM, rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:
  On 11/23/2009 02:05 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
  If I am not mistaking, symbolic calculations can be performed in LyX
  via maxima, octave, etc.
 
  I don't know how current the support is, but yes, there are routines in
  mathed that support exporting to these sorts of formats: Mathematica, too.
  So some work may need to be done, but we don't see a lot of requests for
  this kind of thing. I haven't seen anyone working on it since I've been
  involved in LyX.
 
 One of the reasons for so few requests could be that the nifty feature
 is so well hidden. Other than not being mentioned on the features page
 [1], I couldn't find info on CAS (maxima and the likes) in any of the
 possible documentation files, from Introduction through Math. Even the
 feature-poll page contains a non-greened-out request for CAS [2]. In
 the GUI, it is not much simpler. After having written a math
 expression (say, 'x+x'), right-clicking on the math env will not show
 anything CAS-related, while the math toolbars do not propose anything
 obvious.
 
 Thus, to discover the CAS support in LyX a user would need to go the
 sometimes improbable way of writing in math env and, while there,
 accessing the Edit  Math  Use CAS menu. Of course, an alternative
 path would be Google.

The current CAS support in LyX is a toy, no more. Really. There is not
enough flesh to justify documentation. It would not take lot of effort
to make it work considerably better, but seemingly there was not enough
interest in the last six or eight years to make that happen.

Andre'

Re: CAS exposure in LyX (was Re: Importing Lyx files in SWP)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:39:42AM +, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> Hello
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:34 PM, rgheck  wrote:
> > On 11/23/2009 02:05 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> >> If I am not mistaking, symbolic calculations can be performed in LyX
> >> via maxima, octave, etc.
> >>
> > I don't know how current the support is, but yes, there are routines in
> > mathed that support exporting to these sorts of formats: Mathematica, too.
> > So some work may need to be done, but we don't see a lot of requests for
> > this kind of thing. I haven't seen anyone working on it since I've been
> > involved in LyX.
> >
> One of the reasons for so few requests could be that the nifty feature
> is so well hidden. Other than not being mentioned on the features page
> [1], I couldn't find info on CAS (maxima and the likes) in any of the
> possible documentation files, from Introduction through Math. Even the
> feature-poll page contains a non-greened-out request for CAS [2]. In
> the GUI, it is not much simpler. After having written a math
> expression (say, 'x+x'), right-clicking on the math env will not show
> anything CAS-related, while the math toolbars do not propose anything
> obvious.
> 
> Thus, to discover the CAS support in LyX a user would need to go the
> sometimes improbable way of writing in math env and, while there,
> accessing the Edit > Math > Use CAS menu. Of course, an alternative
> path would be Google.

The current CAS support in LyX is a toy, no more. Really. There is not
enough flesh to justify documentation. It would not take lot of effort
to make it work considerably better, but seemingly there was not enough
interest in the last six or eight years to make that happen.

Andre'

Re: Unsubscribe info

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 01:51:41PM -0500, John Culleton wrote:
 The web site says:
 
 4.4 I can't unsubscribe
 In every message you get from the LyX mailing lists, there will be 
 a line in the message header that looks like this: 
  List-Unsubscribe: 
  mailto:lyx-devel-unsubscribe-bar=blah@lists.lyx.org
 This will remind you how to unsubscribe, so that you don't have to 
 mail the mailing list asking how to do so. 
 ---
 However with a normal header setting on kmail that header never 
 appears.  So as I depart let me suggest that the text on the web 
 site needs correction. That line appears only if you set the folder 
 to full headers. I only do that on rare occasions for debugging 
 purposes.

Filtering out headers is done by your client, defined by your settings,
and not under the control of the sender of the mail.
 
 Other listserves put the unsubscribe info in the trailer.  That 
 makes more sense. 

I understand that this might be helpful for some people. But so would
be a description how to handle fork and knife, too ;-}

Andre'

Re: Unsubscribe info

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 01:51:41PM -0500, John Culleton wrote:
 The web site says:
 
 4.4 I can't unsubscribe
 In every message you get from the LyX mailing lists, there will be 
 a line in the message header that looks like this: 
  List-Unsubscribe: 
  mailto:lyx-devel-unsubscribe-bar=blah@lists.lyx.org
 This will remind you how to unsubscribe, so that you don't have to 
 mail the mailing list asking how to do so. 
 ---
 However with a normal header setting on kmail that header never 
 appears.  So as I depart let me suggest that the text on the web 
 site needs correction. That line appears only if you set the folder 
 to full headers. I only do that on rare occasions for debugging 
 purposes.

Filtering out headers is done by your client, defined by your settings,
and not under the control of the sender of the mail.
 
 Other listserves put the unsubscribe info in the trailer.  That 
 makes more sense. 

I understand that this might be helpful for some people. But so would
be a description how to handle fork and knife, too ;-}

Andre'

Re: Unsubscribe info

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 01:51:41PM -0500, John Culleton wrote:
> The web site says:
> 
> 4.4 I can't unsubscribe
> In every message you get from the LyX mailing lists, there will be 
> a line in the message header that looks like this: 
>  List-Unsubscribe: 
>  
> This will remind you how to unsubscribe, so that you don't have to 
> mail the mailing list asking how to do so. 
> ---
> However with a normal header setting on kmail that header never 
> appears.  So as I depart let me suggest that the text on the web 
> site needs correction. That line appears only if you set the folder 
> to "full headers." I only do that on rare occasions for debugging 
> purposes.

Filtering out headers is done by your client, defined by your settings,
and not under the control of the sender of the mail.
 
> Other listserves put the unsubscribe info in the trailer.  That 
> makes more sense. 

I understand that this might be helpful for some people. But so would
be a description how to handle fork and knife, too ;-}

Andre'

Re: importing 0.12

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 07:12:06PM +0200, Pol wrote:
 I would import an old 0.12 lyx file into 1.4.5
 Any suitable script?

lyx2lyx?

Andre'

Re: importing 0.12

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 07:12:06PM +0200, Pol wrote:
 I would import an old 0.12 lyx file into 1.4.5
 Any suitable script?

lyx2lyx?

Andre'

Re: importing 0.12

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 07:12:06PM +0200, Pol wrote:
> I would import an old 0.12 lyx file into 1.4.5
> Any suitable script?

lyx2lyx?

Andre'

Re: LyX .doc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 03:07:00AM -0700, 0 wrote:
 Can I 
 
 a) save
 b) export
 c) edit
 
 a document in MS Word (.doc) format in LyX?

No.

Andre'

Re: LyX .doc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 03:07:00AM -0700, 0 wrote:
 Can I 
 
 a) save
 b) export
 c) edit
 
 a document in MS Word (.doc) format in LyX?

No.

Andre'

Re: LyX & ".doc"

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 03:07:00AM -0700, 0 wrote:
> Can I 
> 
> a) save
> b) export
> c) edit
> 
> a document in MS Word (.doc) format in LyX?

No.

Andre'

Re: [Survey] Explicit subject tag on this list

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 03:09:58PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
  I created a survey about explicit subject tagging:
  http://surveys.polldaddy.com/s/F47471D51261D0F9/
 
  Feel welcome to fill the answers. Please do not reply to this message.
 
  --
  Manveru
  jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
  gg: 1624001
http://www.manveru.pl
 
 
  Q.1 Do you want explicit mark in subject line?  [image: More Details]
 http://polldaddy.com/surveys/report-multiple.php?f=174199q=550622qt=400
 
 Answer Count
 
  No, I do not want explicit mark in subject line.   24 (67%)
 
  Yes, I want explicit mark in subject line.   10 (28%)
 
  I do not have opinion about this.   2 (6%)
 
  People who answered question:
   *36* (100%)
 Not a lot of people answered this survey.

That's not really surprising for a page that needs creating an account.
I am even surprised that 36 people voted...

Andre'

Re: [Survey] Explicit subject tag on this list

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 03:09:58PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
  I created a survey about explicit subject tagging:
  http://surveys.polldaddy.com/s/F47471D51261D0F9/
 
  Feel welcome to fill the answers. Please do not reply to this message.
 
  --
  Manveru
  jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
  gg: 1624001
http://www.manveru.pl
 
 
  Q.1 Do you want explicit mark in subject line?  [image: More Details]
 http://polldaddy.com/surveys/report-multiple.php?f=174199q=550622qt=400
 
 Answer Count
 
  No, I do not want explicit mark in subject line.   24 (67%)
 
  Yes, I want explicit mark in subject line.   10 (28%)
 
  I do not have opinion about this.   2 (6%)
 
  People who answered question:
   *36* (100%)
 Not a lot of people answered this survey.

That's not really surprising for a page that needs creating an account.
I am even surprised that 36 people voted...

Andre'

Re: [Survey] Explicit subject tag on this list

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 03:09:58PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
> > I created a survey about explicit subject tagging:
> > http://surveys.polldaddy.com/s/F47471D51261D0F9/
> >
> > Feel welcome to fill the answers. Please do not reply to this message.
> >
> > --
> > Manveru
> > jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
> > gg: 1624001
> >   http://www.manveru.pl
> >
> 
>  Q.1 Do you want explicit mark in subject line?  [image: More Details]
> 
> 
> Answer Count
> 
>  No, I do not want explicit mark in subject line.   24 (67%)
> 
>  Yes, I want explicit mark in subject line.   10 (28%)
> 
>  I do not have opinion about this.   2 (6%)
> 
>  People who answered question:
>   *36* (100%)
> Not a lot of people answered this survey.

That's not really surprising for a page that needs creating an account.
I am even surprised that 36 people voted...

Andre'

Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 04:13:14PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
 2009/9/2 Murray Eisenberg mur...@math.umass.edu:
  I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily
  fixed at the server end, so that each message going out from the server has,
  say, [LyX] prepended to the subject.
 
 There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
 people vote against.

I my case mainly because I don't want to waste time to re-iterate
old discussions, twice a year...

I have 42 characters for the subject, given that most messages are
marked with (at least one) 'Re: ', a '[LyX] ' prefix eats 15% of
the available space, for useless 'information'.

Andre'

Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 04:13:14PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
 2009/9/2 Murray Eisenberg mur...@math.umass.edu:
  I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily
  fixed at the server end, so that each message going out from the server has,
  say, [LyX] prepended to the subject.
 
 There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
 people vote against.

I my case mainly because I don't want to waste time to re-iterate
old discussions, twice a year...

I have 42 characters for the subject, given that most messages are
marked with (at least one) 'Re: ', a '[LyX] ' prefix eats 15% of
the available space, for useless 'information'.

Andre'

Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 04:13:14PM +0200, Manveru wrote:
> 2009/9/2 Murray Eisenberg :
> > I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily
> > fixed at the server end, so that each message going out from the server has,
> > say, "[LyX]" prepended to the subject.
> 
> There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
> people vote against.

I my case mainly because I don't want to waste time to re-iterate
old discussions, twice a year...

I have 42 characters for the subject, given that most messages are
marked with (at least one) 'Re: ', a '[LyX] ' prefix eats 15% of
the available space, for useless 'information'.

Andre'

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 05:01:20PM -0500, Les Denham wrote:
 On Thursday 20 August 2009 02:38:08 pm José Matos wrote:
  On Thursday 20 August 2009 16:09:21 Steve Litt wrote:
   Unless of course you have a 64 bit computer.
 
  And the data type used is long. For most of the 64-bit linux the memory
  layout is LP-64 that means that only long and pointer are 64 bits wide.
 
  In case anyone wonders wikipedia has an interesting starting point to read
  about this:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LP64
 
   SteveT
 
 So the real question is whether the variable used for the font size is short 
 (16 bits in all common models), int (16 bits in LP32, 32 bits in ILP32 and 
 LP64, and 64 bits in ILP64) or long (32 bits in LP32, 64 bits in LP64 and 
 ILP64).  I have no idea where to look in the source code for this.  It's 
 probably buried in TeX somewhere, but TeX is written in WEB, which in turn is 
 written in either Pascal or C -- I'm not sure.

TeX's integer arithmetic is on all platforms exactly the same (something
hand-made fixed point) That's by design to ensure the same output no
matter where the program runs.

Andre'

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 05:01:20PM -0500, Les Denham wrote:
 On Thursday 20 August 2009 02:38:08 pm José Matos wrote:
  On Thursday 20 August 2009 16:09:21 Steve Litt wrote:
   Unless of course you have a 64 bit computer.
 
  And the data type used is long. For most of the 64-bit linux the memory
  layout is LP-64 that means that only long and pointer are 64 bits wide.
 
  In case anyone wonders wikipedia has an interesting starting point to read
  about this:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LP64
 
   SteveT
 
 So the real question is whether the variable used for the font size is short 
 (16 bits in all common models), int (16 bits in LP32, 32 bits in ILP32 and 
 LP64, and 64 bits in ILP64) or long (32 bits in LP32, 64 bits in LP64 and 
 ILP64).  I have no idea where to look in the source code for this.  It's 
 probably buried in TeX somewhere, but TeX is written in WEB, which in turn is 
 written in either Pascal or C -- I'm not sure.

TeX's integer arithmetic is on all platforms exactly the same (something
hand-made fixed point) That's by design to ensure the same output no
matter where the program runs.

Andre'

Re: Maximum Font Size

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 05:01:20PM -0500, Les Denham wrote:
> On Thursday 20 August 2009 02:38:08 pm José Matos wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 August 2009 16:09:21 Steve Litt wrote:
> > > Unless of course you have a 64 bit computer.
> >
> > And the data type used is long. For most of the 64-bit linux the memory
> > layout is LP-64 that means that only long and pointer are 64 bits wide.
> >
> > In case anyone wonders wikipedia has an interesting starting point to read
> > about this:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LP64
> >
> > > SteveT
> 
> So the real question is whether the variable used for the font size is short 
> (16 bits in all common models), int (16 bits in LP32, 32 bits in ILP32 and 
> LP64, and 64 bits in ILP64) or long (32 bits in LP32, 64 bits in LP64 and 
> ILP64).  I have no idea where to look in the source code for this.  It's 
> probably buried in TeX somewhere, but TeX is written in WEB, which in turn is 
> written in either Pascal or C -- I'm not sure.

TeX's integer arithmetic is on all platforms exactly the same (something
hand-made fixed point) That's by design to ensure the same output no
matter where the program runs.

Andre'

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:21:00PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
 Hello,
 
 it always happens when you need the bloody thing ;-)
 
 i urgently need to edit and render my CV with lyx. unfortunately lyx
 gives the following error when starting:  symbol lookup error:
 src/lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
 
 i tried re-installing lyx 1.6.2, re-installing Qt, i even build 1.6.3
 from source,... but nothing helps :\  googling did not save my day, so
 i'm asking here, because i'm stuck. please any suggestions? my
 guess this is Qt related, but i have not a single clue how to fix that
 
 running on ubuntu 9.04, with qt 4.5 (i think)

The LyX your are trying to start wants to use an older version of Qt
than the one that was used when LyX was compiled.

This may e.g. happen when you use a self-compiled recent version of Qt
to build LyX and on startup it picks up the older system version. 
Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH apropriately helps in those cases.

Andre'

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:15:17PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Andre
 Poenitzandre.poen...@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de wrote:
  On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:21:00PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
  Hello,
 
  it always happens when you need the bloody thing ;-)
 
  i urgently need to edit and render my CV with lyx. unfortunately lyx
  gives the following error when starting:  symbol lookup error:
  src/lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
 
  i tried re-installing lyx 1.6.2, re-installing Qt, i even build 1.6.3
  from source,... but nothing helps :\  googling did not save my day, so
  i'm asking here, because i'm stuck. please any suggestions? my
  guess this is Qt related, but i have not a single clue how to fix that
 
  running on ubuntu 9.04, with qt 4.5 (i think)
 
  The LyX your are trying to start wants to use an older version of Qt
  than the one that was used when LyX was compiled.
 
  This may e.g. happen when you use a self-compiled recent version of Qt
  to build LyX and on startup it picks up the older system version.
  Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH apropriately helps in those cases.
 
  Andre'
 
 
 i've build 1.6.1, but exactly the same error :\ ...
 
 andre, thx for the suggestions, but i did not compile Qt myself. it's
 the standard ubuntu qt libs.

I am reasonably sure that the scenario you describe cannot occur
with only a single version of Qt on your system.

If you only used only packages form your distribution the only
explanation I have is that the development package you use (i.e.
libqt4-dev) does not match the installed libraries. Either there's
a difference in version of both, or you use the development package
with a set of defines that's incompatible with the the installed
version.

The latter seems actually be rather likely as qFlagLocation is
only used if QT_NO_DEBUG is _not_ set, i.e. you use the Qt in
debug mode. The system Qt is most likely not in debug mode. 

If this is the reason you need to make sure that QT_NO_DEBUG is
defined when you compile LyX. I have no idea how Ubuntu packages
the Qt development package, but I guess configuring LyX with
CXXFLAGS=-DQT_NO_DEBUG ./configure or similar might help.

Andre'

PS:

 could you please elaborate on how to use 'setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH'?
 i'm not sure that i understand what you mean.

That's only relevant for the case where you have multiple versions
of Qt on your system, so let's ignore this for now.

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:16:41PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
 only another error message...
 src/lyx: symbol lookup error: src/lyx: undefined symbol:
 _ZN8QPainter10drawPixmapERK7QPointFRK7QPixmap
 
 ok, this is definitely a qt error. even qtconfig won't launch, it
 gotta be qt related. but what exactly?

Something with your installation. Really.

 i tried removing 
 re-installing all qt packages and many others; and i wasn't able to
 find duplicate qt libs, but i'm not really an expert in libs and devs.

Andre'

PS:

 too bad, that's gonna be a CV made with ms-office. yak... ;-)

Plain LaTeX works for CVs - possibly even better than LyX as that's one
of the rare cases where finger painting is acceptable. And it would
yield the same bonus point in an application as using LyX would...

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:21:00PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
 Hello,
 
 it always happens when you need the bloody thing ;-)
 
 i urgently need to edit and render my CV with lyx. unfortunately lyx
 gives the following error when starting:  symbol lookup error:
 src/lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
 
 i tried re-installing lyx 1.6.2, re-installing Qt, i even build 1.6.3
 from source,... but nothing helps :\  googling did not save my day, so
 i'm asking here, because i'm stuck. please any suggestions? my
 guess this is Qt related, but i have not a single clue how to fix that
 
 running on ubuntu 9.04, with qt 4.5 (i think)

The LyX your are trying to start wants to use an older version of Qt
than the one that was used when LyX was compiled.

This may e.g. happen when you use a self-compiled recent version of Qt
to build LyX and on startup it picks up the older system version. 
Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH apropriately helps in those cases.

Andre'

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:15:17PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Andre
 Poenitzandre.poen...@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de wrote:
  On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:21:00PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
  Hello,
 
  it always happens when you need the bloody thing ;-)
 
  i urgently need to edit and render my CV with lyx. unfortunately lyx
  gives the following error when starting:  symbol lookup error:
  src/lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
 
  i tried re-installing lyx 1.6.2, re-installing Qt, i even build 1.6.3
  from source,... but nothing helps :\  googling did not save my day, so
  i'm asking here, because i'm stuck. please any suggestions? my
  guess this is Qt related, but i have not a single clue how to fix that
 
  running on ubuntu 9.04, with qt 4.5 (i think)
 
  The LyX your are trying to start wants to use an older version of Qt
  than the one that was used when LyX was compiled.
 
  This may e.g. happen when you use a self-compiled recent version of Qt
  to build LyX and on startup it picks up the older system version.
  Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH apropriately helps in those cases.
 
  Andre'
 
 
 i've build 1.6.1, but exactly the same error :\ ...
 
 andre, thx for the suggestions, but i did not compile Qt myself. it's
 the standard ubuntu qt libs.

I am reasonably sure that the scenario you describe cannot occur
with only a single version of Qt on your system.

If you only used only packages form your distribution the only
explanation I have is that the development package you use (i.e.
libqt4-dev) does not match the installed libraries. Either there's
a difference in version of both, or you use the development package
with a set of defines that's incompatible with the the installed
version.

The latter seems actually be rather likely as qFlagLocation is
only used if QT_NO_DEBUG is _not_ set, i.e. you use the Qt in
debug mode. The system Qt is most likely not in debug mode. 

If this is the reason you need to make sure that QT_NO_DEBUG is
defined when you compile LyX. I have no idea how Ubuntu packages
the Qt development package, but I guess configuring LyX with
CXXFLAGS=-DQT_NO_DEBUG ./configure or similar might help.

Andre'

PS:

 could you please elaborate on how to use 'setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH'?
 i'm not sure that i understand what you mean.

That's only relevant for the case where you have multiple versions
of Qt on your system, so let's ignore this for now.

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:16:41PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
 only another error message...
 src/lyx: symbol lookup error: src/lyx: undefined symbol:
 _ZN8QPainter10drawPixmapERK7QPointFRK7QPixmap
 
 ok, this is definitely a qt error. even qtconfig won't launch, it
 gotta be qt related. but what exactly?

Something with your installation. Really.

 i tried removing 
 re-installing all qt packages and many others; and i wasn't able to
 find duplicate qt libs, but i'm not really an expert in libs and devs.

Andre'

PS:

 too bad, that's gonna be a CV made with ms-office. yak... ;-)

Plain LaTeX works for CVs - possibly even better than LyX as that's one
of the rare cases where finger painting is acceptable. And it would
yield the same bonus point in an application as using LyX would...

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:21:00PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> it always happens when you need the bloody thing ;-)
> 
> i urgently need to edit and render my CV with lyx. unfortunately lyx
> gives the following error when starting:  symbol lookup error:
> src/lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
> 
> i tried re-installing lyx 1.6.2, re-installing Qt, i even build 1.6.3
> from source,... but nothing helps :\  googling did not save my day, so
> i'm asking here, because i'm stuck. please any suggestions? my
> guess this is Qt related, but i have not a single clue how to fix that
> 
> running on ubuntu 9.04, with qt 4.5 (i think)

The LyX your are trying to start wants to use an older version of Qt
than the one that was used when LyX was compiled.

This may e.g. happen when you use a self-compiled recent version of Qt
to build LyX and on startup it picks up the older system version. 
Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH apropriately helps in those cases.

Andre'

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:15:17PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Andre
> Poenitz<andre.poen...@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:21:00PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> it always happens when you need the bloody thing ;-)
> >>
> >> i urgently need to edit and render my CV with lyx. unfortunately lyx
> >> gives the following error when starting:  symbol lookup error:
> >> src/lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
> >>
> >> i tried re-installing lyx 1.6.2, re-installing Qt, i even build 1.6.3
> >> from source,... but nothing helps :\  googling did not save my day, so
> >> i'm asking here, because i'm stuck. please any suggestions? my
> >> guess this is Qt related, but i have not a single clue how to fix that
> >>
> >> running on ubuntu 9.04, with qt 4.5 (i think)
> >
> > The LyX your are trying to start wants to use an older version of Qt
> > than the one that was used when LyX was compiled.
> >
> > This may e.g. happen when you use a self-compiled recent version of Qt
> > to build LyX and on startup it picks up the older system version.
> > Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH apropriately helps in those cases.
> >
> > Andre'
> 
> 
> i've build 1.6.1, but exactly the same error :\ ...
> 
> andre, thx for the suggestions, but i did not compile Qt myself. it's
> the standard ubuntu qt libs.

I am reasonably sure that the scenario you describe cannot occur
with only a single version of Qt on your system.

If you only used only packages form your distribution the only
explanation I have is that the development package you use (i.e.
libqt4-dev) does not match the installed libraries. Either there's
a difference in version of both, or you use the development package
with a set of defines that's incompatible with the the installed
version.

The latter seems actually be rather likely as qFlagLocation is
only used if QT_NO_DEBUG is _not_ set, i.e. you use the Qt in
"debug" mode. The system Qt is most likely not in debug mode. 

If this is the reason you need to make sure that QT_NO_DEBUG is
defined when you compile LyX. I have no idea how Ubuntu packages
the Qt development package, but I guess configuring LyX with
"CXXFLAGS=-DQT_NO_DEBUG ./configure" or similar might help.

Andre'

PS:

> could you please elaborate on how to use 'setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH'?
> i'm not sure that i understand what you mean.

That's only relevant for the case where you have multiple versions
of Qt on your system, so let's ignore this for now.

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:16:41PM +0200, zweetsmoel wrote:
> only another error message...
> src/lyx: symbol lookup error: src/lyx: undefined symbol:
> _ZN8QPainter10drawPixmapERK7QPointFRK7QPixmap
> 
> ok, this is definitely a qt error. even qtconfig won't launch, it
> gotta be qt related. but what exactly?

Something with your installation. Really.

> i tried removing &
> re-installing all qt packages and many others; and i wasn't able to
> find duplicate qt libs, but i'm not really an expert in libs and devs.

Andre'

PS:

> too bad, that's gonna be a CV made with ms-office. yak... ;-)

Plain LaTeX works for CVs - possibly even better than LyX as that's one
of the rare cases where "finger painting" is acceptable. And it would
yield the same bonus point in an application as using LyX would...

Re: Re: AW: Yap: Inverse dvi search

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:12:06PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:41:48PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:
 
   
  Jannick Asmus writes:
  
   Is there any chance that this feature is included in the Windows 
   installers in the future?
  
  You can always hope that someone contributes the necessary code.
  
  Enrico, 
  
  Do you have an idea how to do this ? I've some experience with DDE, but
  I'm not sure whether that's what we want.
 
 LyX uses two mechanisms for IPC. One of them is a named pipe, and currently
 the code for dealing with named pipes only takes into account the *nix
 implementation (which is what cygwin uses). However, named pipes also
 exist on Windows, but thy are implemented differently. I am not familiar
 with the Windows way, but I think that the necessary info can be found here:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365590(VS.85).aspx
 
 The other mechanism is a unix domain socket, which has no equivalent on
 Windows. However, given that cygwin can also emulate that, it should be
 possible to use this kind of IPC, too. Cygwin is open source, so if one
 is sufficiently motivated, he could look at those sources for borrowing
 the necessary code.
 
 Maybe other native means could be used, but I am a *nix fellow and don't
 know Windows well enough to judge.

QLocalSocket (http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qlocalsocket.html) comes to
mind. Saves headaches.

Andre'

Re: Re: AW: Yap: Inverse dvi search

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:12:06PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:41:48PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:
 
   
  Jannick Asmus writes:
  
   Is there any chance that this feature is included in the Windows 
   installers in the future?
  
  You can always hope that someone contributes the necessary code.
  
  Enrico, 
  
  Do you have an idea how to do this ? I've some experience with DDE, but
  I'm not sure whether that's what we want.
 
 LyX uses two mechanisms for IPC. One of them is a named pipe, and currently
 the code for dealing with named pipes only takes into account the *nix
 implementation (which is what cygwin uses). However, named pipes also
 exist on Windows, but thy are implemented differently. I am not familiar
 with the Windows way, but I think that the necessary info can be found here:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365590(VS.85).aspx
 
 The other mechanism is a unix domain socket, which has no equivalent on
 Windows. However, given that cygwin can also emulate that, it should be
 possible to use this kind of IPC, too. Cygwin is open source, so if one
 is sufficiently motivated, he could look at those sources for borrowing
 the necessary code.
 
 Maybe other native means could be used, but I am a *nix fellow and don't
 know Windows well enough to judge.

QLocalSocket (http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qlocalsocket.html) comes to
mind. Saves headaches.

Andre'

Re: Re: AW: Yap: Inverse dvi search

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:12:06PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:41:48PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:
> 
> >  
> > >Jannick Asmus writes:
> > >
> > >> Is there any chance that this feature is included in the Windows 
> > >> installers in the future?
> > >
> > >You can always hope that someone contributes the necessary code.
> > 
> > Enrico, 
> > 
> > Do you have an idea how to do this ? I've some experience with DDE, but
> > I'm not sure whether that's what we want.
> 
> LyX uses two mechanisms for IPC. One of them is a named pipe, and currently
> the code for dealing with named pipes only takes into account the *nix
> implementation (which is what cygwin uses). However, named pipes also
> exist on Windows, but thy are implemented differently. I am not familiar
> with the Windows way, but I think that the necessary info can be found here:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365590(VS.85).aspx
> 
> The other mechanism is a unix domain socket, which has no equivalent on
> Windows. However, given that cygwin can also emulate that, it should be
> possible to use this kind of IPC, too. Cygwin is open source, so if one
> is sufficiently motivated, he could look at those sources for borrowing
> the necessary code.
> 
> Maybe other native means could be used, but I am a *nix fellow and don't
> know Windows well enough to judge.

QLocalSocket (http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qlocalsocket.html) comes to
mind. Saves headaches.

Andre'

Re: Re: Continuous spelling checker

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 04:32:01PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:
  
  Ah you guys makes fun when I am off for holidays? Bad boys!
 
 And the worst is: the one that was having fun, is gone for holiday too .

That's fun at its finest...

Andre'

Re: Re: Continuous spelling checker

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 04:32:01PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:
  
  Ah you guys makes fun when I am off for holidays? Bad boys!
 
 And the worst is: the one that was having fun, is gone for holiday too .

That's fun at its finest...

Andre'

Re: Re: Continuous spelling checker

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 04:32:01PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:
>  
> > Ah you guys makes fun when I am off for holidays? Bad boys!
> 
> And the worst is: the one that was having fun, is gone for holiday too .

That's fun at its finest...

Andre'

Re: Fehler beim Öffne n einer lyx Datei

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 07:27:25AM +0200, Florian Rubach wrote:
 Uwe Stöhr schrieb:
 Konstantin Porzig schrieb:

 ich schreibe derzeit meine Bachelorarbeit und habe nun das Problem,  
 dass die
 LyX Datei, nach dem gestrigen speichern, nicht mehr zu öffnen ist. Es
 erscheint folgende Fehlermeldung:

 D:/.../main_go.lyxist kein lesbares Lyx-Dokument.

 (The list language is English, I'm therefore replying in English.)

 Your file is no textfile but consists of binary code. It can therefore  
 not be repaired. LyX files are textfiles as you can see when you open  
 LyX files with a text editors. I don't know how this could have  
 happened but are sure that LyX is not to blame here since LyX is not  
 able to create binary output.

 Maybe he did enable compression for his document? I dont't know, but  
 compressed Lyx-Documents look quite binary to me...

No, it was a *.lyx file that was completely filled by NUL characters
and a backup file that was partially ok and ended with a block of
NUL chars, too, both together in a .rar archive.

So that was not compression of the document, but compression for
transport, and that's completely fine in my opinion.

Andre'

Re: Fehler beim Öffne n einer lyx Datei

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 07:27:25AM +0200, Florian Rubach wrote:
 Uwe Stöhr schrieb:
 Konstantin Porzig schrieb:

 ich schreibe derzeit meine Bachelorarbeit und habe nun das Problem,  
 dass die
 LyX Datei, nach dem gestrigen speichern, nicht mehr zu öffnen ist. Es
 erscheint folgende Fehlermeldung:

 D:/.../main_go.lyxist kein lesbares Lyx-Dokument.

 (The list language is English, I'm therefore replying in English.)

 Your file is no textfile but consists of binary code. It can therefore  
 not be repaired. LyX files are textfiles as you can see when you open  
 LyX files with a text editors. I don't know how this could have  
 happened but are sure that LyX is not to blame here since LyX is not  
 able to create binary output.

 Maybe he did enable compression for his document? I dont't know, but  
 compressed Lyx-Documents look quite binary to me...

No, it was a *.lyx file that was completely filled by NUL characters
and a backup file that was partially ok and ended with a block of
NUL chars, too, both together in a .rar archive.

So that was not compression of the document, but compression for
transport, and that's completely fine in my opinion.

Andre'

Re: Fehler beim Öffne n einer lyx Datei

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 07:27:25AM +0200, Florian Rubach wrote:
> Uwe Stöhr schrieb:
>> Konstantin Porzig schrieb:
>>
>>> ich schreibe derzeit meine Bachelorarbeit und habe nun das Problem,  
>>> dass die
>>> LyX Datei, nach dem gestrigen speichern, nicht mehr zu öffnen ist. Es
>>> erscheint folgende Fehlermeldung:
>>>
>>> "D:/.../main_go.lyx"ist kein lesbares Lyx-Dokument."
>>
>> (The list language is English, I'm therefore replying in English.)
>>
>> Your file is no textfile but consists of binary code. It can therefore  
>> not be repaired. LyX files are textfiles as you can see when you open  
>> LyX files with a text editors. I don't know how this could have  
>> happened but are sure that LyX is not to blame here since LyX is not  
>> able to create binary output.
>
> Maybe he did enable compression for his document? I dont't know, but  
> compressed Lyx-Documents look quite binary to me...

No, it was a *.lyx file that was completely filled by NUL characters
and a backup file that was partially ok and ended with a block of
NUL chars, too, both together in a .rar archive.

So that was not "compression of the document", but "compression for
transport", and that's completely fine in my opinion.

Andre'

Re: Messed up page numbers - help please

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:18:30AM +0200, Luca De Marini wrote:
 Hallo everyone, in my girlfriend's thesis, Lyx is making up a little
 disaster.. page numbers are on the bottom of the page some times and on top
 right on other pages, apparently randomly... why? It never happened to me
 (I'm talking about the output pdf file of course, setted the doc to be a
 book). Can anyone help please? I just need every page number to be on the
 top right of the page.

Even on pages starting a chapter in a book or such?

Andre'

Re: Messed up page numbers - help please

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:18:30AM +0200, Luca De Marini wrote:
 Hallo everyone, in my girlfriend's thesis, Lyx is making up a little
 disaster.. page numbers are on the bottom of the page some times and on top
 right on other pages, apparently randomly... why? It never happened to me
 (I'm talking about the output pdf file of course, setted the doc to be a
 book). Can anyone help please? I just need every page number to be on the
 top right of the page.

Even on pages starting a chapter in a book or such?

Andre'

Re: Messed up page numbers - help please

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:18:30AM +0200, Luca De Marini wrote:
> Hallo everyone, in my girlfriend's thesis, Lyx is making up a little
> disaster.. page numbers are on the bottom of the page some times and on top
> right on other pages, apparently randomly... why? It never happened to me
> (I'm talking about the output pdf file of course, setted the doc to be a
> book). Can anyone help please? I just need every page number to be on the
> top right of the page.

Even on pages starting a chapter in a book or such?

Andre'

Re: environment

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:19:55PM -0400, rgheck wrote:
 Justin Carrera wrote:
 Was LyX used to create this document on your site?  
 http://www.lyx.org/images/meeting2008.png

 No, I think that was done with some sort of mind-mapping software.

And it looks like there were way more people leaving than arriving...

Andre'

Re: environment

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:19:55PM -0400, rgheck wrote:
 Justin Carrera wrote:
 Was LyX used to create this document on your site?  
 http://www.lyx.org/images/meeting2008.png

 No, I think that was done with some sort of mind-mapping software.

And it looks like there were way more people leaving than arriving...

Andre'

Re: environment

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:19:55PM -0400, rgheck wrote:
> Justin Carrera wrote:
>> Was LyX used to create this document on your site?  
>> http://www.lyx.org/images/meeting2008.png
>>
> No, I think that was done with some sort of mind-mapping software.

And it looks like there were way more people leaving than arriving...

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38:21AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current
 one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post irrelevant
 stuff on a ML-thread or change the subject of it so a new thread starts
 when it's not required.

Sound like a deficiency in your mail client. Having a certain Subject
is not a criteria for being a thread, that's what Message-Id and
References are made for.

With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort,
whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he
deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period.

 In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The
 latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback.

Again, a deficiency in the mail client you use. (Esc t D in mutt e.g.)

 Fora require more energy to maintain but provide means to organize
 information better.

On the contrary. In a forum you are bound to use whatever the forum
provides, and you have to change habits if you go to another forum.

With mails, you can decide what client to use, and there are dozens if
not hundreds of them. And they will behave on every mailing list the
same.

 Of course, the LyX-wiki is very good which fulfills
 most of what the ML doesn't satisfy.
 
 That said, I think a ML + Wiki are enough. Without the wiki, the forum
 would be a must-have.

We survived more than a decade without wiki and forum rather well.
(And lucky us got a wiki, not a forum later ;-})

All in all I have the impression that Forums are hyped nowadays because
people lost the ability to choose (and configure...) mail clients or
live in a the net is a browser world.

When I think about it, I might have lost that ability, too. But I keep
copying my mail client setup to new machines ;-)

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:08:23AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
  On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
  
   when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
   ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
   drawback.
  
  When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure
  one out, I reply one more time to the thread and append SOLVED to
  the subject. That's a pretty commonly known technique recommended by
  ESR:
  
  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup
  
  But all too few people choose to use it.
  
  SteveT
 
 Thanks Steve. I didn't know it works like that.
 
 Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
 the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
 place as it should be.

Everything, including all grouping is done on client side. So it is your
choice (of a mail client and/or configuration) whether a changed subject
is shown as a new thread.

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38:21AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current
 one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post irrelevant
 stuff on a ML-thread or change the subject of it so a new thread starts
 when it's not required.

Sound like a deficiency in your mail client. Having a certain Subject
is not a criteria for being a thread, that's what Message-Id and
References are made for.

With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort,
whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he
deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period.

 In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The
 latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback.

Again, a deficiency in the mail client you use. (Esc t D in mutt e.g.)

 Fora require more energy to maintain but provide means to organize
 information better.

On the contrary. In a forum you are bound to use whatever the forum
provides, and you have to change habits if you go to another forum.

With mails, you can decide what client to use, and there are dozens if
not hundreds of them. And they will behave on every mailing list the
same.

 Of course, the LyX-wiki is very good which fulfills
 most of what the ML doesn't satisfy.
 
 That said, I think a ML + Wiki are enough. Without the wiki, the forum
 would be a must-have.

We survived more than a decade without wiki and forum rather well.
(And lucky us got a wiki, not a forum later ;-})

All in all I have the impression that Forums are hyped nowadays because
people lost the ability to choose (and configure...) mail clients or
live in a the net is a browser world.

When I think about it, I might have lost that ability, too. But I keep
copying my mail client setup to new machines ;-)

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:08:23AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
  On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
  
   when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
   ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
   drawback.
  
  When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure
  one out, I reply one more time to the thread and append SOLVED to
  the subject. That's a pretty commonly known technique recommended by
  ESR:
  
  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup
  
  But all too few people choose to use it.
  
  SteveT
 
 Thanks Steve. I didn't know it works like that.
 
 Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
 the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
 place as it should be.

Everything, including all grouping is done on client side. So it is your
choice (of a mail client and/or configuration) whether a changed subject
is shown as a new thread.

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38:21AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current
> one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post irrelevant
> stuff on a ML-thread or change the subject of it so a new thread starts
> when it's not required.

Sound like a deficiency in your mail client. Having a certain Subject
is not a criteria for being a thread, that's what Message-Id and
References are made for.

With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort,
whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he
deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period.

> In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The
> latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback.

Again, a deficiency in the mail client you use. (Esc t D in mutt e.g.)

> Fora require more energy to maintain but provide means to organize
> information better.

On the contrary. In a forum you are bound to use whatever the forum
provides, and you have to change habits if you go to another forum.

With mails, you can decide what client to use, and there are dozens if
not hundreds of them. And they will behave on every mailing list the
same.

> Of course, the LyX-wiki is very good which fulfills
> most of what the ML doesn't satisfy.
> 
> That said, I think a ML + Wiki are enough. Without the wiki, the forum
> would be a "must-have".

We survived more than a decade without wiki and forum rather well.
(And lucky us got a wiki, not a forum later ;-})

All in all I have the impression that Forums are hyped nowadays because
people lost the ability to choose (and configure...) mail clients or
live in a "the net is a browser world".

When I think about it, I might have lost that ability, too. But I keep
copying my mail client setup to new machines ;-)

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:08:23AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> > 
> > > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
> > > ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
> > > drawback.
> > 
> > When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure
> > one out, I reply one more time to the thread and append  to
> > the subject. That's a pretty commonly known technique recommended by
> > ESR:
> > 
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup
> > 
> > But all too few people choose to use it.
> > 
> > SteveT
> 
> Thanks Steve. I didn't know it works like that.
> 
> Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
> the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
> place as it should be.

Everything, including all grouping is done on client side. So it is your
choice (of a mail client and/or configuration) whether a changed subject
is shown as a new thread.

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 04:56:18PM +, Piero Faustini wrote:
 Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@... writes:
  Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the
  emails as described here:
  http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at
  various websites.
 
 How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister
 every 20 forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)?

Numbers alone do not matter much in such cases. Some things simply
do not scale linearily.

And - I'd expect an average LaTeX user to be able to handle e-mail...

 It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used
 lists before knowing LyX.

Other people used mailing lists before web forums had been in use.

For me, a mailing list (or real news) has two major advantages: I can
search and filter for any criteria I want to, and I can use the text
editor I like. Both is usually not (painlessly) possible with a web
interface. 

 They always had, because
 they are very, VERY simple. Lists are not that simple, comparing to
 forums (unless you care about cookies, which 99% of people don't).

Simple is good, as long as it does the job. But not often for more than that.

 Everything has its thumb up and down. I believe you that with lists
 you can do many things which a forum can't. But that's not the point.

That's exactly the point ;-} 

I can scan a dozen mailing lists easily on a daily base. I would not do
the same for web forums.

 Lists are difficoult to use comparing to their advantages, so they are
 for PRO users, almost always have been, and in future I guess they
 will be ONLY for pro. Their worst difficoulty is to LEARN how it works
 (I spent some days puzzling and puzzling and sending messages to wrong
 addresses till I went to GMANE and used its forum-like interface)

So you found a solution that fits your need. Good.

Andre'
 

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 08:34:14PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
 [...] Seriously though, why is a forum different from a list?

The problem seems to be that he uses a web interface to read a mails.
Of course, with such a background, a well-organized forum _is_ an
advantage. Like using a bike instead of walking. But then, steam
engines have been invented more than twenty years ago ;-}

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 04:56:18PM +, Piero Faustini wrote:
 Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@... writes:
  Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the
  emails as described here:
  http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at
  various websites.
 
 How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister
 every 20 forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)?

Numbers alone do not matter much in such cases. Some things simply
do not scale linearily.

And - I'd expect an average LaTeX user to be able to handle e-mail...

 It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used
 lists before knowing LyX.

Other people used mailing lists before web forums had been in use.

For me, a mailing list (or real news) has two major advantages: I can
search and filter for any criteria I want to, and I can use the text
editor I like. Both is usually not (painlessly) possible with a web
interface. 

 They always had, because
 they are very, VERY simple. Lists are not that simple, comparing to
 forums (unless you care about cookies, which 99% of people don't).

Simple is good, as long as it does the job. But not often for more than that.

 Everything has its thumb up and down. I believe you that with lists
 you can do many things which a forum can't. But that's not the point.

That's exactly the point ;-} 

I can scan a dozen mailing lists easily on a daily base. I would not do
the same for web forums.

 Lists are difficoult to use comparing to their advantages, so they are
 for PRO users, almost always have been, and in future I guess they
 will be ONLY for pro. Their worst difficoulty is to LEARN how it works
 (I spent some days puzzling and puzzling and sending messages to wrong
 addresses till I went to GMANE and used its forum-like interface)

So you found a solution that fits your need. Good.

Andre'
 

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 08:34:14PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
 [...] Seriously though, why is a forum different from a list?

The problem seems to be that he uses a web interface to read a mails.
Of course, with such a background, a well-organized forum _is_ an
advantage. Like using a bike instead of walking. But then, steam
engines have been invented more than twenty years ago ;-}

Andre'

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 04:56:18PM +, Piero Faustini wrote:
> Uwe Stöhr  writes:
> > Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the
> > emails as described here:
> > http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at
> > various websites.
> 
> How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister
> every 20 forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)?

Numbers alone do not matter much in such cases. Some things simply
do not scale linearily.

And - I'd expect an average LaTeX user to be able to handle e-mail...

> It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used
> lists before knowing LyX.

Other people used mailing lists before web forums had been in use.

For me, a mailing list (or "real" news) has two major advantages: I can
search and filter for any criteria I want to, and I can use the text
editor I like. Both is usually not (painlessly) possible with a web
interface. 

> They always had, because
> they are very, VERY simple. Lists are not that simple, comparing to
> forums (unless you care about cookies, which 99% of people don't).

Simple is good, as long as it does the job. But not often for more than that.

> Everything has its thumb up and down. I believe you that with lists
> you can do many things which a forum can't. But that's not the point.

That's exactly the point ;-} 

I can scan a dozen mailing lists easily on a daily base. I would not do
the same for web forums.

> Lists are difficoult to use comparing to their advantages, so they are
> for PRO users, almost always have been, and in future I guess they
> will be ONLY for pro. Their worst difficoulty is to LEARN how it works
> (I spent some days puzzling and puzzling and sending messages to wrong
> addresses till I went to GMANE and used its forum-like interface)

So you found a solution that fits your need. Good.

Andre'
 

Re: LyX Forum?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 08:34:14PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> [...] Seriously though, why is a "forum" different from a list?

The problem seems to be that he uses a web interface to read a mails.
Of course, with such a background, a well-organized forum _is_ an
advantage. Like using a bike instead of walking. But then, steam
engines have been invented more than twenty years ago ;-}

Andre'

Re: How to use German capital sharp s (U+1E9E)?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:59:34AM +0100, Tao Cumplido wrote:
  The Linux Libertine font has a capital sharp s.
 
 That's the font I'm using.
 
  I don't know for what purpose you need a capital ß, but in german
  ortography, the ß becomes SS when writing capitalized.
 
 I don't know yet whether I am gonna need it or not, but I'd like to
 know if it's possible before I start getting into Lyx seriously.

It is possible as Juergen wrote, but I question the approach you use
to check whether some piece of software suits your purposes.

Capital ß is as much part of Real Life as is World Peace.

 Why does with Latex everything have to be so complicated? :/

Partially because TeX is a horrible language, and partially because
it tends to lead to pagmatic solution (as opposed to Ivory Tower
style solutions) ;-}

Andre'
 

Re: How to use German capital sharp s (U+1E9E)?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:59:34AM +0100, Tao Cumplido wrote:
  The Linux Libertine font has a capital sharp s.
 
 That's the font I'm using.
 
  I don't know for what purpose you need a capital ß, but in german
  ortography, the ß becomes SS when writing capitalized.
 
 I don't know yet whether I am gonna need it or not, but I'd like to
 know if it's possible before I start getting into Lyx seriously.

It is possible as Juergen wrote, but I question the approach you use
to check whether some piece of software suits your purposes.

Capital ß is as much part of Real Life as is World Peace.

 Why does with Latex everything have to be so complicated? :/

Partially because TeX is a horrible language, and partially because
it tends to lead to pagmatic solution (as opposed to Ivory Tower
style solutions) ;-}

Andre'
 

Re: How to use German capital sharp s (U+1E9E)?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:59:34AM +0100, Tao Cumplido wrote:
> > The Linux Libertine font has a capital sharp s.
> 
> That's the font I'm using.
> 
> > I don't know for what purpose you need a capital ß, but in german
> > ortography, the ß becomes SS when writing capitalized.
> 
> I don't know yet whether I am gonna need it or not, but I'd like to
> know if it's possible before I start getting into Lyx seriously.

It is possible as Juergen wrote, but I question the approach you use
to check whether some piece of software suits your purposes.

Capital ß is as much part of Real Life as is World Peace.

> Why does with Latex everything have to be so complicated? :/

Partially because TeX is a horrible language, and partially because
it tends to lead to pagmatic solution (as opposed to "Ivory Tower
style" solutions) ;-}

Andre'
 

Re: How to use German capital sharp s (U+1E9E)?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:15:14PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Tao Cumplido wrote:
  When I try to print the German capital sharp s I get this error:
  'Some characters of your document are probably not representable in the
  chosen encoding. Changing the document encoding to utf8 could help.'
 
  So, I changed the encoding to utf8 and get the following:
  'Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8ẞ not setup for use with LaTeX.'
 
 I don't think that there is any LaTeX package that supports this character 
 (neither a font that includes it). After all, this was only recently added to 
 the unicode standard.

I am a bit surprised that it is standardized at all. So far I have
considered any use of sharp s in a capitalized word as error...

Andre'

Re: Does LyX 1.6.2 work with Qt 4.4.3?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:57:24PM +0100, Sergio Padrino wrote:
 Hi
 
 I use ArchLinux, KDE 4.2.1 and Qt 4.4.3 and when I try to run LyX 1.6.2, I
 get the next message:
   lyx: symbol lookup error: lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
 
 If I upgrade Qt to 4.5 it works right, if I downgrade LyX to 1.6.1 it works
 right, but LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.4.3 doesn't work.
 
 Summary:
 
 LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.4.3 = lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

Is this LyX compiled against 4.4.3 and does it really pick up the
4.4.3 libs? 

Try  ldd .lyx  and//or run  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib ./lyx  
(with a suitable QTDIR).

 LyX 1.6.1 + Qt 4.4.3 = OK
 LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.5 = OK
 
 Is this a LyX problem or may be a problem of my distribution?

Smells like a setup problem...

Andre'

Re: How to use German capital sharp s (U+1E9E)?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:15:14PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Tao Cumplido wrote:
  When I try to print the German capital sharp s I get this error:
  'Some characters of your document are probably not representable in the
  chosen encoding. Changing the document encoding to utf8 could help.'
 
  So, I changed the encoding to utf8 and get the following:
  'Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8ẞ not setup for use with LaTeX.'
 
 I don't think that there is any LaTeX package that supports this character 
 (neither a font that includes it). After all, this was only recently added to 
 the unicode standard.

I am a bit surprised that it is standardized at all. So far I have
considered any use of sharp s in a capitalized word as error...

Andre'

Re: Does LyX 1.6.2 work with Qt 4.4.3?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:57:24PM +0100, Sergio Padrino wrote:
 Hi
 
 I use ArchLinux, KDE 4.2.1 and Qt 4.4.3 and when I try to run LyX 1.6.2, I
 get the next message:
   lyx: symbol lookup error: lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
 
 If I upgrade Qt to 4.5 it works right, if I downgrade LyX to 1.6.1 it works
 right, but LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.4.3 doesn't work.
 
 Summary:
 
 LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.4.3 = lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

Is this LyX compiled against 4.4.3 and does it really pick up the
4.4.3 libs? 

Try  ldd .lyx  and//or run  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib ./lyx  
(with a suitable QTDIR).

 LyX 1.6.1 + Qt 4.4.3 = OK
 LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.5 = OK
 
 Is this a LyX problem or may be a problem of my distribution?

Smells like a setup problem...

Andre'

Re: How to use German capital sharp s (U+1E9E)?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:15:14PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Tao Cumplido wrote:
> > When I try to print the German capital sharp s I get this error:
> > 'Some characters of your document are probably not representable in the
> > chosen encoding. Changing the document encoding to utf8 could help.'
> >
> > So, I changed the encoding to utf8 and get the following:
> > 'Package inputenc Error: Unicode char \u8ẞ not setup for use with LaTeX.'
> 
> I don't think that there is any LaTeX package that supports this character 
> (neither a font that includes it). After all, this was only recently added to 
> the unicode standard.

I am a bit surprised that it is standardized at all. So far I have
considered any use of "sharp s" in a capitalized word as error...

Andre'

Re: Does LyX 1.6.2 work with Qt 4.4.3?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:57:24PM +0100, Sergio Padrino wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I use ArchLinux, KDE 4.2.1 and Qt 4.4.3 and when I try to run LyX 1.6.2, I
> get the next message:
>   lyx: symbol lookup error: lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc
> 
> If I upgrade Qt to 4.5 it works right, if I downgrade LyX to 1.6.1 it works
> right, but LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.4.3 doesn't work.
> 
> Summary:
> 
> LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.4.3 = lyx: undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

Is this LyX compiled against 4.4.3 and does it really pick up the
4.4.3 libs? 

Try  ldd .lyx  and//or run  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib ./lyx  
(with a suitable QTDIR).

> LyX 1.6.1 + Qt 4.4.3 = OK
> LyX 1.6.2 + Qt 4.5 = OK
> 
> Is this a LyX problem or may be a problem of my distribution?

Smells like a setup problem...

Andre'

Re: Lyx + maple

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:53:48AM -0500, ignacio martinez wrote:
 Hi,
 I have Lyx and maple installed in my ubuntu. But lyx does not know that i
 have maple. If i go to use computer algebra system i cant click on maple.

You won't have much fun with it anyway as the functionality is...
not exactly overwhelming.

Having said that, it should pick up maple if a binary (or script)
called 'maple' is in your $PATH.

Andre'

Re: Lyx + maple

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:53:48AM -0500, ignacio martinez wrote:
 Hi,
 I have Lyx and maple installed in my ubuntu. But lyx does not know that i
 have maple. If i go to use computer algebra system i cant click on maple.

You won't have much fun with it anyway as the functionality is...
not exactly overwhelming.

Having said that, it should pick up maple if a binary (or script)
called 'maple' is in your $PATH.

Andre'

Re: Lyx + maple

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:53:48AM -0500, ignacio martinez wrote:
> Hi,
> I have Lyx and maple installed in my ubuntu. But lyx does not know that i
> have maple. If i go to "use computer algebra system" i cant click on maple.

You won't have much fun with it anyway as the functionality is...
"not exactly overwhelming".

Having said that, it should pick up maple if a binary (or script)
called 'maple' is in your $PATH.

Andre'

Re: some questions on page numbering (pages BEFORE chapter 1)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:54:40AM -0500, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
 It would appear that on Feb 4, David Mertens did say:
  Oops.  I only sent this to Joe.  Resending to LyX list.
 
 I had wondered about that extra copy... Probably my fault. I keep
 forgetting which mailing lists need me to NOT include me on the Reply-To:
 and which ones rewrite it to point at the list. sigh!

Which is the only sensible and safe behaviour sigh! ;-)

Andre'

Re: some questions on page numbering (pages BEFORE chapter 1)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:54:40AM -0500, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
 It would appear that on Feb 4, David Mertens did say:
  Oops.  I only sent this to Joe.  Resending to LyX list.
 
 I had wondered about that extra copy... Probably my fault. I keep
 forgetting which mailing lists need me to NOT include me on the Reply-To:
 and which ones rewrite it to point at the list. sigh!

Which is the only sensible and safe behaviour sigh! ;-)

Andre'

Re: some questions on page numbering (pages BEFORE chapter 1)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:54:40AM -0500, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> It would appear that on Feb 4, David Mertens did say:
> > Oops.  I only sent this to Joe.  Resending to LyX list.
> 
> I had wondered about that extra copy... Probably my fault. I keep
> forgetting which mailing lists need me to NOT include "me" on the Reply-To:
> and which ones rewrite it to point at the list. 

Which is the only sensible and safe behaviour  ;-)

Andre'

Re: serious problems with LyX (semi-fatal crashes)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:56:17AM -0600, Stefano Franchi wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have been experiencing some serious problems with LyX lately, after
 my upgrade to 1.6.x. This is what happens:
 
 1. I am happily typing away when suddenly there is no ouptu on the
 screen any  longer.  2. However, LyX is  not completely crashed. I can
 still issue control commands. In particular, I can save my work with
 Ctrl-S, and quit with Ctrl-Q.  3. The interface, however, is
 completely unresponsive: the various panes are not updated, scrolling
 does not work, etc. As expected, if I change to a different workspace
 and come back, Lyx's windows is not refreshed and becomes blank.
 
 
 As I said, the behavior is not *that* annoying, since no work gets
 lost.  However, it seems rather serious and happens repeatedly.  I
 have experienced it intermittently for several weeks now---a few times
 a week on average. But I cannot reproduce it consistently. Is this a
 known bug? If not, anby suggestion on what I could do in order to pin
 it down?
 
 I am on Linux/Kubuntu (Kde 4.2), running LyX 1.6.1

Is this reproducible on an other window manager?

Last time I had a look at KDE 4.2 I encountered massive redrawing
problems (with other applications). And that was less than a week ago.

Andre'

Re: serious problems with LyX (semi-fatal crashes)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:56:17AM -0600, Stefano Franchi wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have been experiencing some serious problems with LyX lately, after
 my upgrade to 1.6.x. This is what happens:
 
 1. I am happily typing away when suddenly there is no ouptu on the
 screen any  longer.  2. However, LyX is  not completely crashed. I can
 still issue control commands. In particular, I can save my work with
 Ctrl-S, and quit with Ctrl-Q.  3. The interface, however, is
 completely unresponsive: the various panes are not updated, scrolling
 does not work, etc. As expected, if I change to a different workspace
 and come back, Lyx's windows is not refreshed and becomes blank.
 
 
 As I said, the behavior is not *that* annoying, since no work gets
 lost.  However, it seems rather serious and happens repeatedly.  I
 have experienced it intermittently for several weeks now---a few times
 a week on average. But I cannot reproduce it consistently. Is this a
 known bug? If not, anby suggestion on what I could do in order to pin
 it down?
 
 I am on Linux/Kubuntu (Kde 4.2), running LyX 1.6.1

Is this reproducible on an other window manager?

Last time I had a look at KDE 4.2 I encountered massive redrawing
problems (with other applications). And that was less than a week ago.

Andre'

Re: serious problems with LyX (semi-fatal crashes)

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:56:17AM -0600, Stefano Franchi wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have been experiencing some serious problems with LyX lately, after
> my upgrade to 1.6.x. This is what happens:
> 
> 1. I am happily typing away when suddenly there is no ouptu on the
> screen any  longer.  2. However, LyX is  not completely crashed. I can
> still issue control commands. In particular, I can save my work with
> Ctrl-S, and quit with Ctrl-Q.  3. The interface, however, is
> completely unresponsive: the various panes are not updated, scrolling
> does not work, etc. As expected, if I change to a different workspace
> and come back, Lyx's windows is not refreshed and becomes blank.
> 
> 
> As I said, the behavior is not *that* annoying, since no work gets
> lost.  However, it seems rather serious and happens repeatedly.  I
> have experienced it intermittently for several weeks now---a few times
> a week on average. But I cannot reproduce it consistently. Is this a
> known bug? If not, anby suggestion on what I could do in order to pin
> it down?
> 
> I am on Linux/Kubuntu (Kde 4.2), running LyX 1.6.1

Is this reproducible on an other window manager?

Last time I had a look at KDE 4.2 I encountered massive redrawing
problems (with other applications). And that was less than a week ago.

Andre'

Re: Lyx, version clash

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 09:02:59PM +0530, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] 
wrote:
 Is there some way I could open a Lyx 1.6.X file with Lyx 1.5.X?
 
 Am collaborating with the remote editor, and we have different versions of
 Lyx. I can't upgrade Lyx on my Ubuntu system for some reason. FN
 -- 

As a general rule, at the time some LyX version 1.x.0 is released there
is also a release of some 1.(x-1).y that is capable of reading files
of files from 1.x.z for all z.

x=6 and y=7 answers your question ;-)

Andre'