Re: pdfcomment.sty: tlmgr says it's installed, but latex document doesn't find it

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:50:47 -0300
John Coppens  wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 08:14:21 +0100
> Herbert Voss  wrote:
> 
> > that looks like a TeXLive installation with your system package
> > manager and not with the TeXLive manager which itself uses
> > directories like /user/local/texlive/2022/...
> > 
> > I suppose you installed TeXLive twice but only the old from the
> > system is used. But tlmgr puts files into another directors.
> > Copy the directory pdfcomment from
> > 
> > /user/local/texlive/2022/texmf-dist/tex/latex/pdfcomment/
> > 
> > into /user/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/
> > 
> > and run texhash again. THen it should work. However, it is not a
> > good idea to have both instances of TeX installed.
> 
> That looks like a good explanation for the problems. I'll have a
> careful check for the duplication... and report back.
> 
> Apologies for the long delays in replying. Things have been hectic
> lately.
> 
> John

I haven't been able to dedicate time to documentation... an all too
common occurence lately.

The actual copy action I did, after analyzing the files to copy, was:

Copy pdfcomment directory from 

/usr/local/opt/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex

to /usr/share/texmf-local

then I ran texhash, which ran error-less. Still, after restarting LyX
loading the document and ^R, I received this error:

! LaTeX Error: File `pdfcomment.sty' not found.

Type X to quit or  to proceed,
or enter new name. (Default extension: sty)

Enter file name: 
! Emergency stop.


Considering the date (2015) this version was probably a left-over from when
I didn't use Slackware's slackbuild scripts. I suspect the best thing to do:

- Remove the 2015 textlive completely
- Re-install the 2022 version... 

John

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Re: pdfcomment.sty: tlmgr says it's installed, but latex document doesn't find it

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 11:40:03 +0200
Dr Eberhard Lisse  wrote:

> I would in the first instance just do a
> 
>tlmgr install --reinstall pdfcomment

Gives:

tlmgr install --reinstall pdfcomment
tlmgr: Cannot load TeX Live database from 
https://ctan.dcc.uchile.cl/systems/texlive/tlnet


I found a reference about adding LANG=C. Tried that too (in vain).

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Re: pdfcomment.sty: tlmgr says it's installed, but latex document doesn't find it

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 19:33:51 +0100
Herbert Voss  wrote:

> which directories are updated by texhash?

$ texhash
texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf-config/ls-R... 
texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf-dist/ls-R... 
texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf-local/ls-R... 
texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf-var/ls-R... 
texhash: Done.

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Re: pdfcomment.sty: tlmgr says it's installed, but latex document doesn't find it

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 08:42:27 +0100
Herbert Voss  wrote:

> texhash
> 
> and then try again with
> 
> kpsewhich pdfcomment.sty

No luck. texhash runs fine, kpsewich doesn't show anything.

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pdfcomment.sty: tlmgr says it's installed, but latex document doesn't find it

[John Coppens]

Hi all.

I created a new LyX document and imported the 'orbd.tex' file from a package
I wanted to use 
(https://vtechworks.lib.vt.edu/bitstream/handle/10919/84164/LaTeX%20sourcefiles.zip?sequence=16=y)
 and modify some things.

tlmgr list --only-installed

lists the pdfcomment.sty file, but trying to render the document I get the 
message:

LaTex error: file pdfcomment.sty not found.

Do I have to define some path for LyX to find the document?

LyX 2.3.6.1 on Slackware64-current

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Re: LyX Menu Bar is Missing

[John Coppens]

On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:24:32 +0530
Karthik Tayur  wrote:

> The menu bar has disappeared on LyX. I am using Arch Linux. I haven't
> observed this happening on any of my other applications. My system is up to
> date. Any idea as to what might have gone wrong?

If you're using Unity:

Older versions of unity 'grabbed' the menu bar of the active program
and displayed it at the top of the screen (not window), but only if the
cursor is there. Try moving the cursor to the top of the screen. I
remember having to delete (or rename) an executable to restore 'normal'
behaviour.

Newer versions seem to have another system, which is configurable in a
more practical way, and allow to auto-hide the menu. I believe this is
a property of the window manager - not of LyX.

John

Re: Google Analytics (or other)

[John Coppens]

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:23:09 +0200
Christian Ridderström  wrote:

> Personally I'd even prefer (regular) LyX versions to not even include code
> for "capturing and uploading telemetry".

+1

Though I really don't do any 'sensitive work', I shudder at the thought
of having Google (or anyone else) poking his/hers nose into my daily
activities. No amount of promises about privacy protection will ever
convince me otherwise.

At the very least, it should be a compile option, and even then opt-in
only. And even then, a continuous marker on-screen. Call me paranoid.

John

Re: Google Analytics (or other)

[John Coppens]

On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 13:10:17 + (UTC)
Guenter Milde  wrote:

+1

Re: Tables

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 07:29:33 -0700
Hal Kierstead hal.kierst...@me.com wrote:

  Am I doing something wrong?

Did you actually set the column width with the table property editor?

And use the correct units? I seem to remember that the default unit is
'cm' (which I can't convince myself to use). Maybe you set 20cm instead
of 20mm?

I suspect you already tried that...

John

Re: Tables

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 07:29:33 -0700
Hal Kierstead hal.kierst...@me.com wrote:

  Am I doing something wrong?

Did you actually set the column width with the table property editor?

And use the correct units? I seem to remember that the default unit is
'cm' (which I can't convince myself to use). Maybe you set 20cm instead
of 20mm?

I suspect you already tried that...

John

Re: Tables

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 07:29:33 -0700
Hal Kierstead  wrote:

>  Am I doing something wrong?

Did you actually set the column width with the table property editor?

And use the correct units? I seem to remember that the default unit is
'cm' (which I can't convince myself to use). Maybe you set 20cm instead
of 20mm?

I suspect you already tried that...

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 14:22:22 +0100
Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 You're using LyX with backend support for more than one spell checker.
 Every spell checker comes with it's own shared library.
 These open calls are made on program startup to resolve the library function 
 addresses.
 Your strace output doesn't indicate any function call...

I see... Thanks. 

Yes, the function calls are much later. If you like, I can send
you the entire trace gzipped. It's about 280k long. But the calls are to
Enchant, not to the selected Hunspell.
 
  No other hunspell directory or file is opened after this. Several
  aspell/enchant directories *are* opened. 
 
 Where? What is an enchant directory?

I mean the directories where the enchant dictionaries are first looked for
(/usr/share/enchant)

These are the directories LyX looks in:

/usr/share/myspell
/usr/local/share/lyx
/root/.lyx

I.e., it does not look into hunspell's own directory. So, it seems we have
to provide a symlink here?


John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 15:19:48 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña marceloacu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The problem with hunspell is that debian no have spanish dictionary for 
 hunspell.Plus I installed hunspell but is not recongized by lyx 2.1.x. 

Marcelo, you can use the dictionaries from LibreOffice (OpenOffice), Firefox 
and others. The extensions
are strange (.xpi and such), but they are actually .zip files. So you can 
rename them to something.zip,
unzip them, and copy the contents to where LyX expects them (I would suggest 
/usr/share/myspell/ )

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 14:22:22 +0100
Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 You're using LyX with backend support for more than one spell checker.
 Every spell checker comes with it's own shared library.
 These open calls are made on program startup to resolve the library function 
 addresses.
 Your strace output doesn't indicate any function call...

I see... Thanks. 

Yes, the function calls are much later. If you like, I can send
you the entire trace gzipped. It's about 280k long. But the calls are to
Enchant, not to the selected Hunspell.
 
  No other hunspell directory or file is opened after this. Several
  aspell/enchant directories *are* opened. 
 
 Where? What is an enchant directory?

I mean the directories where the enchant dictionaries are first looked for
(/usr/share/enchant)

These are the directories LyX looks in:

/usr/share/myspell
/usr/local/share/lyx
/root/.lyx

I.e., it does not look into hunspell's own directory. So, it seems we have
to provide a symlink here?


John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 15:19:48 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña marceloacu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The problem with hunspell is that debian no have spanish dictionary for 
 hunspell.Plus I installed hunspell but is not recongized by lyx 2.1.x. 

Marcelo, you can use the dictionaries from LibreOffice (OpenOffice), Firefox 
and others. The extensions
are strange (.xpi and such), but they are actually .zip files. So you can 
rename them to something.zip,
unzip them, and copy the contents to where LyX expects them (I would suggest 
/usr/share/myspell/ )

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 14:22:22 +0100
Stephan Witt  wrote:

> You're using LyX with backend support for more than one spell checker.
> Every spell checker comes with it's own shared library.
> These open calls are made on program startup to resolve the library function 
> addresses.
> Your strace output doesn't indicate any function call...

I see... Thanks. 

Yes, the function calls are much later. If you like, I can send
you the entire trace gzipped. It's about 280k long. But the calls are to
Enchant, not to the selected Hunspell.
 
> > No other hunspell directory or file is opened after this. Several
> > aspell/enchant directories *are* opened. 
> 
> Where? What is an enchant directory?

I mean the directories where the enchant dictionaries are first looked for
(/usr/share/enchant)

These are the directories LyX looks in:

/usr/share/myspell
/usr/local/share/lyx
/root/.lyx

I.e., it does not look into hunspell's own directory. So, it seems we have
to provide a symlink here?


John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 15:19:48 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña  wrote:

> The problem with hunspell is that debian no have spanish dictionary for 
> hunspell.Plus I installed hunspell but is not recongized by lyx 2.1.x. 

Marcelo, you can use the dictionaries from LibreOffice (OpenOffice), Firefox 
and others. The extensions
are strange (.xpi and such), but they are actually .zip files. So you can 
rename them to something.zip,
unzip them, and copy the contents to where LyX expects them (I would suggest 
/usr/share/myspell/ )

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 15:40:56 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña marceloacu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yes, work ok.LibreOffice spellchecker work too.
  

I normally don't use spellcheckers, but I tested enchant now, and it does
seem to fail randomly. Sometimes I get the 'dictionary' problem, and
sometimes the checker just reports that all is correct...

Marcelo, I've submitted a bug report on your problem (Ticket #9318)
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9318

Let's hope for a quick reply!

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 22:43:17 +0100
Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Can you try the Hunspell package, please?
 Enchant support in LyX 2.1 is not very good.

I have exactly the same problem with hunspell. I compiled and installed it,
added en_US and es_ES dictionaries, and tested it on a couple of text
files from the console - no problem.

When I start it from LyX, I get the message Spellchecker has no
dictionaries

Strange: I configured Hunspell in LyX and did an strace. In the strace
output I found:

open(/usr/lib64/libhunspell-1.3.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\0P\224\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 
832) = 832
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=985236, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 2431520, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
0x7ff13f128000
mprotect(0x7ff13f176000, 2093056, PROT_NONE) = 0
mmap(0x7ff13f375000, 20480, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x4d000) = 0x7ff13f375000
close(3)= 0

open(/usr/lib64/libaspell.so.15, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\\215\2\0\0\0\0\0..., 
832) = 832
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=750528, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 2878072, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
0x7ff13ee68000
mprotect(0x7ff13ef19000, 2093056, PROT_NONE) = 0
mmap(0x7ff13f118000, 28672, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xb) = 0x7ff13f118000
mmap(0x7ff13f11f000, 31352, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7ff13f11f000
close(3)= 0

Why is aspell called after hunspell?

No other hunspell directory or file is opened after this. Several
aspell/enchant directories *are* opened. 

It's as if hunspell is just ignored, even though it was succesfully
opened.

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 15:40:56 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña marceloacu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yes, work ok.LibreOffice spellchecker work too.
  

I normally don't use spellcheckers, but I tested enchant now, and it does
seem to fail randomly. Sometimes I get the 'dictionary' problem, and
sometimes the checker just reports that all is correct...

Marcelo, I've submitted a bug report on your problem (Ticket #9318)
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9318

Let's hope for a quick reply!

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 22:43:17 +0100
Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Can you try the Hunspell package, please?
 Enchant support in LyX 2.1 is not very good.

I have exactly the same problem with hunspell. I compiled and installed it,
added en_US and es_ES dictionaries, and tested it on a couple of text
files from the console - no problem.

When I start it from LyX, I get the message Spellchecker has no
dictionaries

Strange: I configured Hunspell in LyX and did an strace. In the strace
output I found:

open(/usr/lib64/libhunspell-1.3.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\0P\224\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 
832) = 832
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=985236, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 2431520, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
0x7ff13f128000
mprotect(0x7ff13f176000, 2093056, PROT_NONE) = 0
mmap(0x7ff13f375000, 20480, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x4d000) = 0x7ff13f375000
close(3)= 0

open(/usr/lib64/libaspell.so.15, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\1\0\0\\215\2\0\0\0\0\0..., 
832) = 832
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=750528, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 2878072, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
0x7ff13ee68000
mprotect(0x7ff13ef19000, 2093056, PROT_NONE) = 0
mmap(0x7ff13f118000, 28672, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xb) = 0x7ff13f118000
mmap(0x7ff13f11f000, 31352, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7ff13f11f000
close(3)= 0

Why is aspell called after hunspell?

No other hunspell directory or file is opened after this. Several
aspell/enchant directories *are* opened. 

It's as if hunspell is just ignored, even though it was succesfully
opened.

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 15:40:56 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña  wrote:

> Yes, work ok.LibreOffice spellchecker work too.
>  

I normally don't use spellcheckers, but I tested enchant now, and it does
seem to fail randomly. Sometimes I get the 'dictionary' problem, and
sometimes the checker just reports that all is correct...

Marcelo, I've submitted a bug report on your problem (Ticket #9318)
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9318

Let's hope for a quick reply!

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 22:43:17 +0100
Stephan Witt  wrote:

> Can you try the Hunspell package, please?
> Enchant support in LyX 2.1 is not very good.

I have exactly the same problem with hunspell. I compiled and installed it,
added en_US and es_ES dictionaries, and tested it on a couple of text
files from the console - no problem.

When I start it from LyX, I get the message "Spellchecker has no
dictionaries"

Strange: I configured Hunspell in LyX and did an strace. In the strace
output I found:

open("/usr/lib64/libhunspell-1.3.so.0", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0>\0\1\0\0\0P\224\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 
832) = 832
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=985236, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 2431520, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
0x7ff13f128000
mprotect(0x7ff13f176000, 2093056, PROT_NONE) = 0
mmap(0x7ff13f375000, 20480, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x4d000) = 0x7ff13f375000
close(3)= 0

open("/usr/lib64/libaspell.so.15", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0>\0\1\0\0\\215\2\0\0\0\0\0"..., 
832) = 832
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=750528, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 2878072, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
0x7ff13ee68000
mprotect(0x7ff13ef19000, 2093056, PROT_NONE) = 0
mmap(0x7ff13f118000, 28672, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xb) = 0x7ff13f118000
mmap(0x7ff13f11f000, 31352, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7ff13f11f000
close(3)= 0

Why is aspell called after hunspell?

No other hunspell directory or file is opened after this. Several
aspell/enchant directories *are* opened. 

It's as if hunspell is just ignored, even though it was succesfully
opened.

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:55:09 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña marceloacu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 hello,  I have lyx 2.1.2 compiled in debian linux.  I can`t get that 
 spellcheckers work. I have installed all components of myspell, enchant 
 (development librarys included) and dictionarys but when I start a run of the 
 spellchcker I get a dictionary not found message. All other functions of lyx 
 work properly.
 Marcelo

Does enchant work from the command line?   
 
   enchant -l some file 

should list all the spelling errors in some file.

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:55:09 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña marceloacu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 hello,  I have lyx 2.1.2 compiled in debian linux.  I can`t get that 
 spellcheckers work. I have installed all components of myspell, enchant 
 (development librarys included) and dictionarys but when I start a run of the 
 spellchcker I get a dictionary not found message. All other functions of lyx 
 work properly.
 Marcelo

Does enchant work from the command line?   
 
   enchant -l some file 

should list all the spelling errors in some file.

John

Re: dictionary not found

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:55:09 + (UTC)
Marcelo Acuña  wrote:

> hello,  I have lyx 2.1.2 compiled in debian linux.  I can`t get that 
> spellcheckers work. I have installed all components of myspell, enchant 
> (development librarys included) and dictionarys but when I start a run of the 
> spellchcker I get a dictionary not found message. All other functions of lyx 
> work properly.
> Marcelo

Does enchant work from the command line?   
 
   enchant -l  

should list all the spelling errors in .

John

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.1.0 (rc1)

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:22:41 +0100
Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:

 Looks like someone wanted to be extra-smart, but this only prevents
 people from being able to do what they need to do. Which, to me, is
 compulsive, imperious and totally braindead, if you prefer these
 adjectives to bullshittish.

Wow... Almost looks as if you paid for LyX.

John

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.1.0 (rc1)

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:22:41 +0100
Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:

 Looks like someone wanted to be extra-smart, but this only prevents
 people from being able to do what they need to do. Which, to me, is
 compulsive, imperious and totally braindead, if you prefer these
 adjectives to bullshittish.

Wow... Almost looks as if you paid for LyX.

John

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.1.0 (rc1)

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:22:41 +0100
Wolfgang Keller  wrote:

> Looks like someone wanted to be extra-smart, but this only prevents
> people from being able to do what they need to do. Which, to me, is
> compulsive, imperious and totally braindead, if you prefer these
> adjectives to "bullshittish".

Wow... Almost looks as if you paid for LyX.

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:32:05 +1300
John O'Gorman j...@og.co.nz wrote:

 On 26/10/13 04:12, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
  On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
 
  For me, LyX is in fact a killer app, in the sense that it has killed any 
  need or desire to have an affair, a one night stand, or even flirt with any 
  other app. I write long, structured papers that contain mathematics, 
  figures, cross-references, and bibliographic citations, and LyX has been 
  the perfect partner and document processor. It does everything I need, 
  produces beautiful pdf's, and it's solid as a rock.
 
  A heartfelt thank you to JMarc and the other LyX developers.
 
  Bruce
 
 I second that.
 I've used LyX since its beginning.
 It is the best software ever written (apart possibly from Unix/Linux).

Don't forget the underlying (La)TeX, without which LyX wouldn't exist!

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

 But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, 
 if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting 
 is requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by 
 fixing the bug?

Many, if not most projects include a 'THANKS' file in their packages with
the names of people who collaborated in the project. Not all include bug
reporters, which is fine by me if the report results in an improved version
of the free program. That's more than thanks enough for me.

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:32:05 +1300
John O'Gorman j...@og.co.nz wrote:

 On 26/10/13 04:12, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
  On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 
 
  For me, LyX is in fact a killer app, in the sense that it has killed any 
  need or desire to have an affair, a one night stand, or even flirt with any 
  other app. I write long, structured papers that contain mathematics, 
  figures, cross-references, and bibliographic citations, and LyX has been 
  the perfect partner and document processor. It does everything I need, 
  produces beautiful pdf's, and it's solid as a rock.
 
  A heartfelt thank you to JMarc and the other LyX developers.
 
  Bruce
 
 I second that.
 I've used LyX since its beginning.
 It is the best software ever written (apart possibly from Unix/Linux).

Don't forget the underlying (La)TeX, without which LyX wouldn't exist!

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:

 But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, 
 if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting 
 is requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by 
 fixing the bug?

Many, if not most projects include a 'THANKS' file in their packages with
the names of people who collaborated in the project. Not all include bug
reporters, which is fine by me if the report results in an improved version
of the free program. That's more than thanks enough for me.

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:32:05 +1300
John O'Gorman  wrote:

> On 26/10/13 04:12, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
> > On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:49 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> >
> >
> > For me, LyX is in fact a killer app, in the sense that it has killed any 
> > need or desire to have an affair, a one night stand, or even flirt with any 
> > other app. I write long, structured papers that contain mathematics, 
> > figures, cross-references, and bibliographic citations, and LyX has been 
> > the perfect partner and document processor. It does everything I need, 
> > produces beautiful pdf's, and it's solid as a rock.
> >
> > A heartfelt thank you to JMarc and the other LyX developers.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> I second that.
> I've used LyX since its beginning.
> It is the best software ever written (apart possibly from Unix/Linux).

Don't forget the underlying (La)TeX, without which LyX wouldn't exist!

John

Re: why people give up on open source software

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600
Ken Springer  wrote:

> But, as I wrote in news://news.gmane.org:119/l4bi37$vh$1...@ger.gmane.org, 
> if I help by reporting bugs I find in a program, assuming that reporting 
> is requested by developers, shouldn't there be some thanks shown by 
> fixing the bug?

Many, if not most projects include a 'THANKS' file in their packages with
the names of people who collaborated in the project. Not all include bug
reporters, which is fine by me if the report results in an improved version
of the free program. That's more than thanks enough for me.

John

Re: Table formating

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:01:36 -0400
Ignacio Martinez ignaci...@gmail.com wrote:

  How can I do this?

Or you simply define a width for the column (cm or in or so) in the
table properties. Then the lines will break into several.

John

Re: Table formating

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:01:36 -0400
Ignacio Martinez ignaci...@gmail.com wrote:

  How can I do this?

Or you simply define a width for the column (cm or in or so) in the
table properties. Then the lines will break into several.

John

Re: Table formating

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:01:36 -0400
Ignacio Martinez  wrote:

>  How can I do this?

Or you simply define a width for the column (cm or in or so) in the
table properties. Then the lines will break into several.

John

Re: LyX.app can't be opened

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:36:15 -0400
Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 New computer. Now on OS X Mountain Lion. When I started LyX after installing 
 it, I got a message saying, LyX.app can't be opened because it's from an 
 unidentified developer.
 
 What do I need to do?

Really? I hadn't heard that one. So you put down good money for a
computer, which then decides you can't run any software your want?
Even if the software developer doesn't want to be paid?

That can't be true, can it?

John

Re: LyX.app can't be opened

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:36:15 -0400
Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 New computer. Now on OS X Mountain Lion. When I started LyX after installing 
 it, I got a message saying, LyX.app can't be opened because it's from an 
 unidentified developer.
 
 What do I need to do?

Really? I hadn't heard that one. So you put down good money for a
computer, which then decides you can't run any software your want?
Even if the software developer doesn't want to be paid?

That can't be true, can it?

John

Re: LyX.app can't be opened

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:36:15 -0400
Eric Weir  wrote:

> New computer. Now on OS X Mountain Lion. When I started LyX after installing 
> it, I got a message saying, "LyX.app can't be opened because it's from an 
> unidentified developer."
> 
> What do I need to do?

Really? I hadn't heard that one. So you put down good money for a
computer, which then decides you can't run any software your want?
Even if the software developer doesn't want to be paid?

That can't be true, can it?

John

No converter from lyxpreview format has been defined

[John Coppens]

Hello all.

I've been trying to get xypic working. I don't get any message from LyX, but
on the terminal, I see

No converter from lyxpreview format has been defined

I googled around some, and found several mentions of the problem in LyX 1.3.6,
but very little recent. In Converters, I have the line:

python -tt $$s/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.py

This script seems to exist, even though it isn't called - the .pyc / .pyo files
are not updated even though a newer version of the .py is available.

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1372 2012-10-23 13:19 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  968 2012-01-31 16:13 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.pyc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  968 2012-01-31 16:13 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.pyo

Of course, Instant_view is enabled, etc. 

Any suggestions? (LyX version was 2.0.2, installed 2.0.4 to compare, with same
results. Python 2.7.3).

John

Re: No converter from lyxpreview format has been defined

[John Coppens]

Just to be complete: I have also checked the existence of the xypic and preview
packages...

Re: No converter from lyxpreview format has been defined

[John Coppens]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:21:54 -0300
John Coppens j...@jcoppens.com wrote:

 Just to be complete: I have also checked the existence of the xypic and 
 preview
 packages...
This starts to look like bugging... My apologies. More info:

I (proudly) wrote my first LaTeX script, using the xy-pic library, and, after
a few trials, it worked! I.e., I could generate the arrows provided by xy-pic,
which seems to prove that everything is install correctly.

I then imported this file in LyX, and there, it didn't get interpreted:
- The \circle were translated, but the \ar was included literally.
If I try to view the DVI (from inside LyX), I get an error:


xymatrix
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  7 on input line 20.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  5 on input line 20.
! Argument of \next@ has an extra }.
inserted text 
\par 
l.20  {\circ} \ {\circ} \ {\circ} \ {\circ} }
-

repeated many times over. Running LaTeX immediately (on my edited file)
I have no errors and the DVI output is correct.

This is that file:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[all]{xy}
\begin{document}
Small is beautiful.\\
\xymatrix{
{\circ} \ar[r]  {\circ}  {\circ}  {\circ} \\
{\circ}  {\circ}  {\circ}  {\circ} }
\end{document}

No converter from lyxpreview format has been defined

[John Coppens]

Hello all.

I've been trying to get xypic working. I don't get any message from LyX, but
on the terminal, I see

No converter from lyxpreview format has been defined

I googled around some, and found several mentions of the problem in LyX 1.3.6,
but very little recent. In Converters, I have the line:

python -tt $$s/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.py

This script seems to exist, even though it isn't called - the .pyc / .pyo files
are not updated even though a newer version of the .py is available.

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1372 2012-10-23 13:19 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  968 2012-01-31 16:13 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.pyc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  968 2012-01-31 16:13 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.pyo

Of course, Instant_view is enabled, etc. 

Any suggestions? (LyX version was 2.0.2, installed 2.0.4 to compare, with same
results. Python 2.7.3).

John

Re: No converter from lyxpreview format has been defined

[John Coppens]

Just to be complete: I have also checked the existence of the xypic and preview
packages...

Re: No converter from lyxpreview format has been defined

[John Coppens]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:21:54 -0300
John Coppens j...@jcoppens.com wrote:

 Just to be complete: I have also checked the existence of the xypic and 
 preview
 packages...
This starts to look like bugging... My apologies. More info:

I (proudly) wrote my first LaTeX script, using the xy-pic library, and, after
a few trials, it worked! I.e., I could generate the arrows provided by xy-pic,
which seems to prove that everything is install correctly.

I then imported this file in LyX, and there, it didn't get interpreted:
- The \circle were translated, but the \ar was included literally.
If I try to view the DVI (from inside LyX), I get an error:


xymatrix
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  7 on input line 20.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  5 on input line 20.
! Argument of \next@ has an extra }.
inserted text 
\par 
l.20  {\circ} \ {\circ} \ {\circ} \ {\circ} }
-

repeated many times over. Running LaTeX immediately (on my edited file)
I have no errors and the DVI output is correct.

This is that file:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[all]{xy}
\begin{document}
Small is beautiful.\\
\xymatrix{
{\circ} \ar[r]  {\circ}  {\circ}  {\circ} \\
{\circ}  {\circ}  {\circ}  {\circ} }
\end{document}

No converter from "lyxpreview" format has been defined

[John Coppens]

Hello all.

I've been trying to get xypic working. I don't get any message from LyX, but
on the terminal, I see

No converter from "lyxpreview" format has been defined

I googled around some, and found several mentions of the problem in LyX 1.3.6,
but very little recent. In Converters, I have the line:

python -tt $$s/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.py

This script seems to exist, even though it isn't called - the .pyc / .pyo files
are not updated even though a newer version of the .py is available.

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1372 2012-10-23 13:19 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  968 2012-01-31 16:13 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.pyc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  968 2012-01-31 16:13 
/usr/local/share/lyx/scripts/lyxpreview-platex2bitmap.pyo

Of course, Instant_view is enabled, etc. 

Any suggestions? (LyX version was 2.0.2, installed 2.0.4 to compare, with same
results. Python 2.7.3).

John

Re: No converter from "lyxpreview" format has been defined

[John Coppens]

Just to be complete: I have also checked the existence of the xypic and preview
packages...

Re: No converter from "lyxpreview" format has been defined

[John Coppens]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:21:54 -0300
John Coppens <j...@jcoppens.com> wrote:

> Just to be complete: I have also checked the existence of the xypic and 
> preview
> packages...
This starts to look like bugging... My apologies. More info:

I (proudly) wrote my first LaTeX script, using the xy-pic library, and, after
a few trials, it worked! I.e., I could generate the arrows provided by xy-pic,
which seems to prove that everything is install correctly.

I then imported this file in LyX, and there, it didn't get interpreted:
- The \circle were translated, but the \ar was included literally.
If I try to view the DVI (from inside LyX), I get an error:


 on input line 20.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  <5> on input line 20.
! Argument of \next@ has an extra }.
 
\par 
l.20  {\circ} \& {\circ} \& {\circ} \& {\circ} }
-

repeated many times over. Running LaTeX immediately (on my edited file)
I have no errors and the DVI output is correct.

This is that file:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[all]{xy}
\begin{document}
Small is beautiful.\\
\xymatrix{
{\circ} \ar[r] & {\circ} & {\circ} & {\circ} \\
{\circ} & {\circ} & {\circ} & {\circ} }
\end{document}

Re: In openSUSE 11.4, scrolling in LyX RC1 very slow

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:10:36 -0500
Joon Ro joonp...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried to compile LyX from the source, but it was slow as well. (Actually  
 I did this first because I did not want to add unstable repo)

Hi Joon.

Guessing: There have been changes in Xorg, and the detection system for
the display/keyboard/mouse/etc.

Could it be that 11.4 installed a video driver without acceleration?

(I'm a rather casual user of OpenSUSE, and I don't know how this is
managed there. However, I did have quite an encounter with the xorg
changes starting to depend on dbus)

Also, did you run LyX from a terminal to check if there isn't a load of
messages appearing?

John

Re: In openSUSE 11.4, scrolling in LyX RC1 very slow

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:10:36 -0500
Joon Ro joonp...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried to compile LyX from the source, but it was slow as well. (Actually  
 I did this first because I did not want to add unstable repo)

Hi Joon.

Guessing: There have been changes in Xorg, and the detection system for
the display/keyboard/mouse/etc.

Could it be that 11.4 installed a video driver without acceleration?

(I'm a rather casual user of OpenSUSE, and I don't know how this is
managed there. However, I did have quite an encounter with the xorg
changes starting to depend on dbus)

Also, did you run LyX from a terminal to check if there isn't a load of
messages appearing?

John

Re: In openSUSE 11.4, scrolling in LyX RC1 very slow

[John Coppens]

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:10:36 -0500
"Joon Ro"  wrote:

> I tried to compile LyX from the source, but it was slow as well. (Actually  
> I did this first because I did not want to add unstable repo)

Hi Joon.

Guessing: There have been changes in Xorg, and the detection system for
the display/keyboard/mouse/etc.

Could it be that 11.4 installed a video driver without acceleration?

(I'm a rather casual user of OpenSUSE, and I don't know how this is
managed there. However, I did have quite an encounter with the xorg
changes starting to depend on dbus)

Also, did you run LyX from a terminal to check if there isn't a load of
messages appearing?

John

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.0.0 (beta 1)

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:59:20 +0100
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:

 We hope you will enjoy the result!

Admirable... Unpacked, compiled, installed and it worked - just like
that. Amazing job!

I'll give it a larger workout later, but at first sight, noticed that
tables don't seem to scroll around as much as before.

Thanks for all the work!

John

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.0.0 (beta 1)

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:59:20 +0100
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:

 We hope you will enjoy the result!

Admirable... Unpacked, compiled, installed and it worked - just like
that. Amazing job!

I'll give it a larger workout later, but at first sight, noticed that
tables don't seem to scroll around as much as before.

Thanks for all the work!

John

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.0.0 (beta 1)

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:59:20 +0100
Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> We hope you will enjoy the result!

Admirable... Unpacked, compiled, installed and it worked - just like
that. Amazing job!

I'll give it a larger workout later, but at first sight, noticed that
tables don't seem to scroll around as much as before.

Thanks for all the work!

John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:53:28 -0400
Todd Denniston todd.dennis...@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil wrote:

 I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
 Hope this helps some.

Great idea, Todd. Thanks

John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:03:44 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Am 09.09.2010 18:45, schrieb John Coppens:
 
  1) Scrolling:
 
  When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
  unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around,
 
 This is a known problem. The situation will be much better in the next 
 major LyX version 2.0.

Thanks for the reply Uwe.

I'm not clear if the beta is stable enough to replace 1.6.7? 

  2) Table in table:
 
  I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
  touching, which isn't too aesthetic...
 
 Insert some horizontal or vertical space if necessary. The 
 EmbeddedObkects manual that you find in LyX's Help emnu shows you many 
 examples how to do this. (Start with sec. 3.7 Subfloats and/or sec. 
 2.12.1 Row Spacing.)

I tried the suggestions in 2.12.1:
  I added 3 mm 'bottom of the row', but no difference came out in the
PDF (the screen did update, and to be sure I also clicked 'update' PDF).
DVI didn't show the space either.

3.7 mentions putting minipages... Tried that too. That made the
register tables go outside the outer table (to the right). Tried to
adjust sizes (as text %, as cm etc, but all tests gave unpredictable
results.

None of the tests allowed to add spacing below the inner table.

I also tested (as I commented in the previous mail), that inserting a
vertical space below the inner table actually works, but doesn't
communicate the new size to the outer table, so the bottom border of
the table row disappears.

It's a small document. If someone would like to have a go, I'll post
the LyX file.

Thanks!
John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:53:28 -0400
Todd Denniston todd.dennis...@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil wrote:

 I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
 Hope this helps some.

Great idea, Todd. Thanks

John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:03:44 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Am 09.09.2010 18:45, schrieb John Coppens:
 
  1) Scrolling:
 
  When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
  unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around,
 
 This is a known problem. The situation will be much better in the next 
 major LyX version 2.0.

Thanks for the reply Uwe.

I'm not clear if the beta is stable enough to replace 1.6.7? 

  2) Table in table:
 
  I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
  touching, which isn't too aesthetic...
 
 Insert some horizontal or vertical space if necessary. The 
 EmbeddedObkects manual that you find in LyX's Help emnu shows you many 
 examples how to do this. (Start with sec. 3.7 Subfloats and/or sec. 
 2.12.1 Row Spacing.)

I tried the suggestions in 2.12.1:
  I added 3 mm 'bottom of the row', but no difference came out in the
PDF (the screen did update, and to be sure I also clicked 'update' PDF).
DVI didn't show the space either.

3.7 mentions putting minipages... Tried that too. That made the
register tables go outside the outer table (to the right). Tried to
adjust sizes (as text %, as cm etc, but all tests gave unpredictable
results.

None of the tests allowed to add spacing below the inner table.

I also tested (as I commented in the previous mail), that inserting a
vertical space below the inner table actually works, but doesn't
communicate the new size to the outer table, so the bottom border of
the table row disappears.

It's a small document. If someone would like to have a go, I'll post
the LyX file.

Thanks!
John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:53:28 -0400
Todd Denniston  wrote:

> I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
> Hope this helps some.

Great idea, Todd. Thanks

John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:03:44 +0200
Uwe Stöhr <uwesto...@web.de> wrote:

> Am 09.09.2010 18:45, schrieb John Coppens:
> 
> > 1) Scrolling:
> >
> > When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
> > unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around,
> 
> This is a known problem. The situation will be much better in the next 
> major LyX version 2.0.

Thanks for the reply Uwe.

I'm not clear if the beta is stable enough to replace 1.6.7? 

> > 2) Table in table:
> >
> > I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
> > touching, which isn't too aesthetic...
> 
> Insert some horizontal or vertical space if necessary. The 
> EmbeddedObkects manual that you find in LyX's Help emnu shows you many 
> examples how to do this. (Start with sec. 3.7 "Subfloats" and/or sec. 
> 2.12.1 "Row Spacing".)

I tried the suggestions in 2.12.1:
  I added 3 mm 'bottom of the row', but no difference came out in the
PDF (the screen did update, and to be sure I also clicked 'update' PDF).
DVI didn't show the space either.

3.7 mentions putting minipages... Tried that too. That made the
register tables go outside the outer table (to the right). Tried to
adjust sizes (as text %, as cm etc, but all tests gave unpredictable
results.

None of the tests allowed to add spacing below the inner table.

I also tested (as I commented in the previous mail), that inserting a
vertical space below the inner table actually works, but doesn't
communicate the new size to the outer table, so the bottom border of
the table row disappears.

It's a small document. If someone would like to have a go, I'll post
the LyX file.

Thanks!
John

Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

Hello people,

Two problems with tables:

1) Scrolling:

When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around, so
scrolling has to be done clicking columns. This gets a little tiring if a
lot of editing has to be done.

Selecting a cell can get very difficult, causing the table to jump around
and making a correct selection nearly impossible.

I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
worse by causing extra scrolling.

Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?

2) Table in table:

I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
touching, which isn't too aesthetic... I found how to add \extrarowheight
in table cells, but that seems to add space only at the top of the cell.
How can I add extra margin at the bottom? (Also tried a DefSkip below the
internal table, but this makes the bottom border of the cell disappear -
weird)

This is the generated PDF:

http://jcoppens.com/univ/iua/hds/data/address_modes.pdf

Thanks on beforehand!
John

Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

Hello people,

Two problems with tables:

1) Scrolling:

When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around, so
scrolling has to be done clicking columns. This gets a little tiring if a
lot of editing has to be done.

Selecting a cell can get very difficult, causing the table to jump around
and making a correct selection nearly impossible.

I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
worse by causing extra scrolling.

Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?

2) Table in table:

I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
touching, which isn't too aesthetic... I found how to add \extrarowheight
in table cells, but that seems to add space only at the top of the cell.
How can I add extra margin at the bottom? (Also tried a DefSkip below the
internal table, but this makes the bottom border of the cell disappear -
weird)

This is the generated PDF:

http://jcoppens.com/univ/iua/hds/data/address_modes.pdf

Thanks on beforehand!
John

Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

Hello people,

Two problems with tables:

1) Scrolling:

When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around, so
scrolling has to be done clicking columns. This gets a little tiring if a
lot of editing has to be done.

Selecting a cell can get very difficult, causing the table to jump around
and making a correct selection nearly impossible.

I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
worse by causing extra scrolling.

Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?

2) Table in table:

I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
touching, which isn't too aesthetic... I found how to add \extrarowheight
in table cells, but that seems to add space only at the top of the cell.
How can I add extra margin at the bottom? (Also tried a DefSkip below the
internal table, but this makes the bottom border of the cell disappear -
weird)

This is the generated PDF:

http://jcoppens.com/univ/iua/hds/data/address_modes.pdf

Thanks on beforehand!
John

Viewing documents 'element DUMMY undefined

[John Coppens]

Hello people.

I edited a document in 'docbook' style, and get loads of error messages
like this one:

jade:/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.TJ9507/lyx_tmpbuf0/mspgcc.sgml:440:41:E: element
DUMMY undefined

(the converter gives up after 200 of them).

The 'DUMMY' element occurs in  lines like:

entry align=center valign=topdummy15/dummy/entry
entry align=center valign=topdummy14/dummy/entry

These are entries in tables. I have assigned no special formatting to the
text in the table cells... Are tables not allowed in docbook (the
_do_ appear in the styles menu)? Or am I missing some file?

Thanks in advance...
John

Viewing documents 'element DUMMY undefined

[John Coppens]

Hello people.

I edited a document in 'docbook' style, and get loads of error messages
like this one:

jade:/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.TJ9507/lyx_tmpbuf0/mspgcc.sgml:440:41:E: element
DUMMY undefined

(the converter gives up after 200 of them).

The 'DUMMY' element occurs in  lines like:

entry align=center valign=topdummy15/dummy/entry
entry align=center valign=topdummy14/dummy/entry

These are entries in tables. I have assigned no special formatting to the
text in the table cells... Are tables not allowed in docbook (the
_do_ appear in the styles menu)? Or am I missing some file?

Thanks in advance...
John

Viewing documents 'element DUMMY undefined

[John Coppens]

Hello people.

I edited a document in 'docbook' style, and get loads of error messages
like this one:

jade:/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.TJ9507/lyx_tmpbuf0/mspgcc.sgml:440:41:E: element
"DUMMY" undefined

(the converter gives up after 200 of them).

The 'DUMMY' element occurs in  lines like:

15
14

These are entries in tables. I have assigned no special formatting to the
text in the table cells... Are tables not allowed in docbook (the
_do_ appear in the styles menu)? Or am I missing some file?

Thanks in advance...
John

Re: how to vary the spacing between paragraphs?

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:12:37 +0100
Richard Brown rich...@guidedelearning.com wrote:

 Thanks for that; but I'm sorry I should have been clearer in my
 question. I don't want to change the default settings for paragraph
 spacing in the whole document. I just need to be able to say that
 certain paragraphs will be nearer to the paragraph which follows, on a
 case by case basis.

Try Insert|Formatting|Vertical spacing...

John

Re: how to vary the spacing between paragraphs?

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:12:37 +0100
Richard Brown rich...@guidedelearning.com wrote:

 Thanks for that; but I'm sorry I should have been clearer in my
 question. I don't want to change the default settings for paragraph
 spacing in the whole document. I just need to be able to say that
 certain paragraphs will be nearer to the paragraph which follows, on a
 case by case basis.

Try Insert|Formatting|Vertical spacing...

John

Re: how to vary the spacing between paragraphs?

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:12:37 +0100
Richard Brown  wrote:

> Thanks for that; but I'm sorry I should have been clearer in my
> question. I don't want to change the default settings for paragraph
> spacing in the whole document. I just need to be able to say that
> certain paragraphs will be nearer to the paragraph which follows, on a
> case by case basis.

Try Insert|Formatting|Vertical spacing...

John

Re: Why this list refuses small zip / 7z archives ?

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:14:18 +0100
Olivier Ripoll durocortorum73-gm...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 I'm not planning to attach the images individually, there are more than 
 100 files (including variants and some xcf)! How can I send them to the 
 list. Should I change the extension to pretend it's something else ?

Hi Olivier,

A rather simple solution is using one of the file share sites such as
rapidshare.com, hotfile.com, megaupload.com, upload.to, or one of
many others. For small files, the service is free, and they'll delete the
files after some time automatically.

John

Re: Why this list refuses small zip / 7z archives ?

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:14:18 +0100
Olivier Ripoll durocortorum73-gm...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 I'm not planning to attach the images individually, there are more than 
 100 files (including variants and some xcf)! How can I send them to the 
 list. Should I change the extension to pretend it's something else ?

Hi Olivier,

A rather simple solution is using one of the file share sites such as
rapidshare.com, hotfile.com, megaupload.com, upload.to, or one of
many others. For small files, the service is free, and they'll delete the
files after some time automatically.

John

Re: Why this list refuses small zip / 7z archives ?

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:14:18 +0100
Olivier Ripoll  wrote:

> I'm not planning to attach the images individually, there are more than 
> 100 files (including variants and some xcf)! How can I send them to the 
> list. Should I change the extension to pretend it's something else ?

Hi Olivier,

A rather simple solution is using one of the file share sites such as
rapidshare.com, hotfile.com, megaupload.com, upload.to, or one of
many others. For small files, the service is free, and they'll delete the
files after some time automatically.

John

Re: Professional and Scientific Writing Book

[John Coppens]

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:09:49 -0700
Rob Oakes rob.oa...@oak-tree.us wrote:

 But are there other things that you would like to see?  The standard LyX
 documentation is so good that I've found myself struggling to find other
 topics that need to be covered, other than a tremendously quick overview
 of the program and instructions on where to find the docs.

A clear overview of how to use accented (or otherwise punctuated
characteres) would be useful (with indications why it sometimes won't
work). I couldn't get character composition to work in 1.5.x; it
spontaneously re-appeared in 1.6.x (I suspect because of Qt 3.x and Qt
4.x)

I guess this would be particularly useful for writers who only
ocasionally use other languages.

John

Re: Professional and Scientific Writing Book

[John Coppens]

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:09:49 -0700
Rob Oakes rob.oa...@oak-tree.us wrote:

 But are there other things that you would like to see?  The standard LyX
 documentation is so good that I've found myself struggling to find other
 topics that need to be covered, other than a tremendously quick overview
 of the program and instructions on where to find the docs.

A clear overview of how to use accented (or otherwise punctuated
characteres) would be useful (with indications why it sometimes won't
work). I couldn't get character composition to work in 1.5.x; it
spontaneously re-appeared in 1.6.x (I suspect because of Qt 3.x and Qt
4.x)

I guess this would be particularly useful for writers who only
ocasionally use other languages.

John

Re: Professional and Scientific Writing Book

[John Coppens]

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:09:49 -0700
Rob Oakes  wrote:

> But are there other things that you would like to see?  The standard LyX
> documentation is so good that I've found myself struggling to find other
> topics that need to be covered, other than a tremendously quick overview
> of the program and instructions on where to find the docs.

A clear overview of how to use accented (or otherwise punctuated
characteres) would be useful (with indications why it sometimes won't
work). I couldn't get character composition to work in 1.5.x; it
spontaneously re-appeared in 1.6.x (I suspect because of Qt 3.x and Qt
4.x)

I guess this would be particularly useful for writers who only
ocasionally use other languages.

John

Re: Small poll about svn

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:50:26 +0200
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:

 hi,

Hullo,  1.5.5. here

John

Re: Small poll about svn

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:50:26 +0200
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:

 hi,

Hullo,  1.5.5. here

John

Re: Small poll about svn

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:50:26 +0200
Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> hi,

Hullo,  1.5.5. here

John

Re: How many use Linux:

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:22:51 -0600
Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use LyX on OS X.

On Slackware Linux since '96

John

Re: How many use Linux:

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:34:39 -0400
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

  On Slackware Linux since '96
 
 Dang dude! You used LyX since 96? I thought I was early, starting LyX
 in 2001.

Yup... I can't say I am a very 'frequent user', I certainly won't earn
any free miles, but I have known LyX from the sparse splash screen
(blue IIRC) on ;-)

John

Re: How many use Linux:

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:22:51 -0600
Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use LyX on OS X.

On Slackware Linux since '96

John

Re: How many use Linux:

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:34:39 -0400
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

  On Slackware Linux since '96
 
 Dang dude! You used LyX since 96? I thought I was early, starting LyX
 in 2001.

Yup... I can't say I am a very 'frequent user', I certainly won't earn
any free miles, but I have known LyX from the sparse splash screen
(blue IIRC) on ;-)

John

Re: How many use Linux:

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:22:51 -0600
Richard Talley  wrote:

> I use LyX on OS X.

On Slackware Linux since '96

John

Re: How many use Linux:

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:34:39 -0400
Steve Litt  wrote:

> > On Slackware Linux since '96
> 
> Dang dude! You used LyX since 96? I thought I was early, starting LyX
> in 2001.

Yup... I can't say I am a very 'frequent user', I certainly won't earn
any free miles, but I have known LyX from the sparse splash screen
(blue IIRC) on ;-)

John

Re: Rotating tables with URLs

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:25:27 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

  I have a (rather wide) table with cross-references in it. When I
  rotate the table to fit it on a page, the table rotates fine, but the
  (red) boxes around the references stay unrotated.
 
 You can turn off the boxes in the document settings in the section of
 the PDF properties.

Thanks Uwe! I'll do that for now.

John

Re: Rotating tables with URLs

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:25:27 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

  I have a (rather wide) table with cross-references in it. When I
  rotate the table to fit it on a page, the table rotates fine, but the
  (red) boxes around the references stay unrotated.
 
 You can turn off the boxes in the document settings in the section of
 the PDF properties.

Thanks Uwe! I'll do that for now.

John

Re: Rotating tables with URLs

[John Coppens]

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:25:27 +0200
Uwe Stöhr  wrote:

> > I have a (rather wide) table with cross-references in it. When I
> > rotate the table to fit it on a page, the table rotates fine, but the
> > (red) boxes around the references stay unrotated.
> 
> You can turn off the boxes in the document settings in the section of
> the PDF properties.

Thanks Uwe! I'll do that for now.

John

Rotating tables with URLs

[John Coppens]

Hello people.

I have a (rather wide) table with cross-references in it. When I rotate
the table to fit it on a page, the table rotates fine, but the (red) boxes
around the references stay unrotated.

I used the rotate function as provided in the Table settings. Do I need
anything else?

John

Rotating tables with URLs

[John Coppens]

Hello people.

I have a (rather wide) table with cross-references in it. When I rotate
the table to fit it on a page, the table rotates fine, but the (red) boxes
around the references stay unrotated.

I used the rotate function as provided in the Table settings. Do I need
anything else?

John

Rotating tables with URLs

[John Coppens]

Hello people.

I have a (rather wide) table with cross-references in it. When I rotate
the table to fit it on a page, the table rotates fine, but the (red) boxes
around the references stay unrotated.

I used the rotate function as provided in the Table settings. Do I need
anything else?

John

Extra spacing in tables

[John Coppens]

Hello all.

I have a table with some math in it. The matrices were touching the
borders, so I defined a default 'extra bottom space' in the properties. It
seems this extra space is only added to the (bottom of) last row (even
though all rows are selected on enabling the spacing, and, on-screen, the
spacing increases for all rows).

I also tried to increase this spacing line by line with the same result.

Adding extra top space works on all rows, but breaks the borders.

This is LyX 1.6.3. Sorry if this was already repaired. I'm off trying to
compile the latest version.

John

PS: No, 1.6.4 still shows the same problems.

Re: Extra spacing in tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:59:49 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

  I have a table with some math in it. The matrices were touching the
  borders,
 
 Have you already had a look at the EmbeddedObjects manual that you find
 in LyX's Help menu? There you find nearly every possible trick for
 tables.

Thanks Uwe,

I will do that later. I haven't looked for alternative methods yet, but I
thought that if a standard LyX feature didn't work as advertised, it was
important enough to check if it was my fault or not.

Cheers,
John

Re: Extra spacing in tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:18:41 -0400
Stephen Buonopane stephen.buonop...@bucknell.edu wrote:

 Did you try in ERT
 \renewcommand\arraystretch{1.5}

Hi Stephem.

That command seems to resize the entire table, with contents. It does
nothing to the row-to-border spacing.

I have [] around matrices in the table, and the [] touch the cell
borders. This look positively ugly.

I'd prefer to maintain the borders, but if nothing else works, removing
the borders looks better.

Cheers,
John

Re: Extra spacing in tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:19:58 -0300
John Coppens j...@jcoppens.com wrote:

   I have a table with some math in it. The matrices were touching the
   borders,
  
  Have you already had a look at the EmbeddedObjects manual that you
  find in LyX's Help menu? There you find nearly every possible trick
  for tables.
 
 Thanks Uwe,
 
 I will do that later. I haven't looked for alternative methods yet, but
 I thought that if a standard LyX feature didn't work as advertised, it
 was important enough to check if it was my fault or not.

Uwe,

I've looked over the EmbeddedObjects manual, and, sure enough, the
problems are documented (I was already wondering why I didn't find a
reference to the problem).

Just as a suggestion, I'd modify the LyX table dialog (add a warning when
adding top space or inter-row space).

I tried to insert TeX \strut in the cell(s), and found it had no effect.

Then I tried with the preamble, using array, but the spacing inserted
seems to distribute very unevenly over the table. I tried with a large
value for height to see the effect, and I get lots of extra space in
between matrix lines, very little extra space above and below the matrix,
and this last space gradually lessens row by row.

I think I'd better leave off the borders completely.

Cheers,
John

Extra spacing in tables

[John Coppens]

Hello all.

I have a table with some math in it. The matrices were touching the
borders, so I defined a default 'extra bottom space' in the properties. It
seems this extra space is only added to the (bottom of) last row (even
though all rows are selected on enabling the spacing, and, on-screen, the
spacing increases for all rows).

I also tried to increase this spacing line by line with the same result.

Adding extra top space works on all rows, but breaks the borders.

This is LyX 1.6.3. Sorry if this was already repaired. I'm off trying to
compile the latest version.

John

PS: No, 1.6.4 still shows the same problems.

Re: Extra spacing in tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:59:49 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

  I have a table with some math in it. The matrices were touching the
  borders,
 
 Have you already had a look at the EmbeddedObjects manual that you find
 in LyX's Help menu? There you find nearly every possible trick for
 tables.

Thanks Uwe,

I will do that later. I haven't looked for alternative methods yet, but I
thought that if a standard LyX feature didn't work as advertised, it was
important enough to check if it was my fault or not.

Cheers,
John

Re: Extra spacing in tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:18:41 -0400
Stephen Buonopane stephen.buonop...@bucknell.edu wrote:

 Did you try in ERT
 \renewcommand\arraystretch{1.5}

Hi Stephem.

That command seems to resize the entire table, with contents. It does
nothing to the row-to-border spacing.

I have [] around matrices in the table, and the [] touch the cell
borders. This look positively ugly.

I'd prefer to maintain the borders, but if nothing else works, removing
the borders looks better.

Cheers,
John

Re: Extra spacing in tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:19:58 -0300
John Coppens j...@jcoppens.com wrote:

   I have a table with some math in it. The matrices were touching the
   borders,
  
  Have you already had a look at the EmbeddedObjects manual that you
  find in LyX's Help menu? There you find nearly every possible trick
  for tables.
 
 Thanks Uwe,
 
 I will do that later. I haven't looked for alternative methods yet, but
 I thought that if a standard LyX feature didn't work as advertised, it
 was important enough to check if it was my fault or not.

Uwe,

I've looked over the EmbeddedObjects manual, and, sure enough, the
problems are documented (I was already wondering why I didn't find a
reference to the problem).

Just as a suggestion, I'd modify the LyX table dialog (add a warning when
adding top space or inter-row space).

I tried to insert TeX \strut in the cell(s), and found it had no effect.

Then I tried with the preamble, using array, but the spacing inserted
seems to distribute very unevenly over the table. I tried with a large
value for height to see the effect, and I get lots of extra space in
between matrix lines, very little extra space above and below the matrix,
and this last space gradually lessens row by row.

I think I'd better leave off the borders completely.

Cheers,
John