Re: LyX logo

2008-03-27 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 20:06:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ah, and I guess it's no coincidence that there's a platypus in the users'
 guide?  Is there a story behind this particular animal, e.g. something
 like that it's a hybrid animal, like LyX?

  I am not sure, the platypus figure made its appearance in the 0.10 code 
base. So other than the usual suspects, Jean-Marc, Lars, Jürgen Vigna, Alan 
Rae or Asger, someone that may know what is the meaning of the platypus is 
David L. Johnson.

If I am allowed to guess I would conjecture that the association of a platypus 
to lyx is related with the C++ roots of LyX.

In objected oriented text/books the platypus is sometimes associated with the 
concept of polymorphism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymorphism_in_object-oriented_programming

Is enough to search the web for examples of
polymorphism platypus c++ to see the plethora of positive outcomes. Using 
google two top examples are:
http://classes.engr.oregonstate.edu/eecs/winter2004/cs582/slides/chap11/all.htm
http://accu.org/index.php/journals/255

 /Christian

-- 
José Abílio


Re: New splash screen (Was: LyX logo)

2008-03-27 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 27 March 2008 01:49:50 Rich Shepard wrote:
>    Regardless, naming the mascot Lydia is a great idea: no other FOSS
> application has such a name. Perhaps we could mate Lydia and Tux, sell the
> off-spring to zoos (once they hatch, of course) and fund development that
> way.

Oh, it would be a joy it were that simple that the pandas as an example:
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2008/03/sex_workout_for_pandas.html

> Rich

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX logo

2008-03-27 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 20:06:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ah, and I guess it's no coincidence that there's a platypus in the users'
> guide?  Is there a story behind this particular animal, e.g. something
> like that it's a "hybrid animal", like LyX?

  I am not sure, the platypus figure made its appearance in the 0.10 code 
base. So other than the usual suspects, Jean-Marc, Lars, Jürgen Vigna, Alan 
Rae or Asger, someone that may know what is the meaning of the platypus is 
David L. Johnson.

If I am allowed to guess I would conjecture that the association of a platypus 
to lyx is related with the C++ roots of LyX.

In objected oriented text/books the platypus is sometimes associated with the 
concept of polymorphism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymorphism_in_object-oriented_programming

Is enough to search the web for examples of
"polymorphism platypus c++" to see the plethora of positive outcomes. Using 
google two top examples are:
http://classes.engr.oregonstate.edu/eecs/winter2004/cs582/slides/chap11/all.htm
http://accu.org/index.php/journals/255

> /Christian

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX logo

2008-03-26 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 00:48:50 M-L wrote:
 I agree. The bird is good, instantly recognisable and synonymous with LyX.
 It is the LyX brand in that it is unique.

That is not a bird. That is a platypus and is a mammal although it lays eggs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platypus

So please don't call it a bird, pretty please. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX logo

2008-03-26 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 00:48:50 M-L wrote:
 I agree. The bird is good, instantly recognisable and synonymous with LyX.
 It is the LyX brand in that it is unique.

That is not a bird. That is a platypus and is a mammal although it lays eggs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platypus

So please don't call it a bird, pretty please. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX logo

2008-03-26 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 25 March 2008 00:48:50 M-L wrote:
> I agree. The bird is good, instantly recognisable and synonymous with LyX.
> It is the LyX brand in that it is unique.

That is not a bird. That is a platypus and is a mammal although it lays eggs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platypus

So please don't call it a bird, pretty please. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: pdf file size

2008-03-19 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 21:03:11 Miki Dovrat wrote:
 Hi,

 Can I give lyx (or imagemagick convert through lyx) or some other latex
 package an option to resample all graphics in a certain resolution to
 reduce the pdf file size?  convert has a -resample option.

 I would love to do it on the fly without actually producing lower
 resolution images on disk, and pointing to them. Can I run a python
 script in the lyx tmp directory by lyx, or any such solution?

 I know adobe acrobat does this on the output pdf for $300. Doing convert
 on the pdf ruins the text as well.

 Thanks

 Miki

Please add this to lyx bugzilla so that it does not get forgoten. I don't 
remember to see this request before. All the times I had this problem before 
I have fixed it by hand.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: pdf file size

2008-03-19 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 21:03:11 Miki Dovrat wrote:
 Hi,

 Can I give lyx (or imagemagick convert through lyx) or some other latex
 package an option to resample all graphics in a certain resolution to
 reduce the pdf file size?  convert has a -resample option.

 I would love to do it on the fly without actually producing lower
 resolution images on disk, and pointing to them. Can I run a python
 script in the lyx tmp directory by lyx, or any such solution?

 I know adobe acrobat does this on the output pdf for $300. Doing convert
 on the pdf ruins the text as well.

 Thanks

 Miki

Please add this to lyx bugzilla so that it does not get forgoten. I don't 
remember to see this request before. All the times I had this problem before 
I have fixed it by hand.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: pdf file size

2008-03-19 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 21:03:11 Miki Dovrat wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can I give lyx (or imagemagick convert through lyx) or some other latex
> package an option to resample all graphics in a certain resolution to
> reduce the pdf file size?  convert has a -resample option.
>
> I would love to do it "on the fly" without actually producing lower
> resolution images on disk, and pointing to them. Can I run a python
> script in the lyx tmp directory by lyx, or any such solution?
>
> I know adobe acrobat does this on the output pdf for $300. Doing convert
> on the pdf ruins the text as well.
>
> Thanks
>
> Miki

Please add this to lyx bugzilla so that it does not get forgoten. I don't 
remember to see this request before. All the times I had this problem before 
I have fixed it by hand.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Problems installing LyX - better method

2008-03-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 18:50:20 Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL wrote:
 I reported this bug (4633) 1.6svn seems to be incapable to read 1.5.x
 files (on my Win XP Pro system).

  And I replied there that I suspect from your python installation. :-)
We need a better debugging info for this kind of problems because the default 
message is not always accurate. :-(

 Siegfried.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Problems installing LyX - better method

2008-03-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 18:50:20 Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL wrote:
 I reported this bug (4633) 1.6svn seems to be incapable to read 1.5.x
 files (on my Win XP Pro system).

  And I replied there that I suspect from your python installation. :-)
We need a better debugging info for this kind of problems because the default 
message is not always accurate. :-(

 Siegfried.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Problems installing LyX - better method

2008-03-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 18:50:20 Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL wrote:
> I reported this bug (4633) 1.6svn seems to be incapable to read 1.5.x
> files (on my Win XP Pro system).

  And I replied there that I suspect from your python installation. :-)
We need a better debugging info for this kind of problems because the default 
message is not always accurate. :-(

> Siegfried.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms?

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:43:12 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 I've promised to keep out of this thread but this is again plain FUD,
 LyX-1.5 is perfectly compilable with Qt-4.1.0. The INSTALL file only
 says that it has been _tested_ with Qt-4.1.5. All version of Qt-4.1.x
 are course binary and source compilable.

  But as we know things rarely are so black and white, this is why we 
advertise the _tested_ 4.1.5.

  In version 1.5.3 the README says that the minimum Qt required version is 
4.1.1

 Abdel.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms? SOLVED

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 16:24:30 Steve Litt wrote:
 So I'd add something like:

 WARNING!!! ALWAYS DELETE AND RESTORE YOUR LYX 1.5.3 SOURCE TREE AFTER A
 BLOWN ./CONFIGURE OR MAKE!!!

 And then add a sentence saying why.

make clean is not enough?

I am asking although I suspect that the answer is no. :-(

 Thanks

 SteveT

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms? SOLVED

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:03:04 Steve Litt wrote:
   --with-version-suffix=1.5.3

You can simply use --with-version-suffix and configure will put the right 
version for you. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms? SOLVED

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 19:55:28 Steve Litt wrote:
 On my box, every make, whether successful or failure, takes about 25
 minutes, and ./configure takes 5 minutes. I'm not going to have time to do
 that for at least a couple weeks.

  In such cases ccache is really useful. :-)

 The answer to that *would* be good to put in the doucmentation.

  FWIW I consider it not working to be a bug that needs to be fixed.
-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms?

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:43:12 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 I've promised to keep out of this thread but this is again plain FUD,
 LyX-1.5 is perfectly compilable with Qt-4.1.0. The INSTALL file only
 says that it has been _tested_ with Qt-4.1.5. All version of Qt-4.1.x
 are course binary and source compilable.

  But as we know things rarely are so black and white, this is why we 
advertise the _tested_ 4.1.5.

  In version 1.5.3 the README says that the minimum Qt required version is 
4.1.1

 Abdel.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms? SOLVED

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 16:24:30 Steve Litt wrote:
 So I'd add something like:

 WARNING!!! ALWAYS DELETE AND RESTORE YOUR LYX 1.5.3 SOURCE TREE AFTER A
 BLOWN ./CONFIGURE OR MAKE!!!

 And then add a sentence saying why.

make clean is not enough?

I am asking although I suspect that the answer is no. :-(

 Thanks

 SteveT

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms? SOLVED

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:03:04 Steve Litt wrote:
   --with-version-suffix=1.5.3

You can simply use --with-version-suffix and configure will put the right 
version for you. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms? SOLVED

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 19:55:28 Steve Litt wrote:
 On my box, every make, whether successful or failure, takes about 25
 minutes, and ./configure takes 5 minutes. I'm not going to have time to do
 that for at least a couple weeks.

  In such cases ccache is really useful. :-)

 The answer to that *would* be good to put in the doucmentation.

  FWIW I consider it not working to be a bug that needs to be fixed.
-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms?

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:43:12 Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> I've promised to keep out of this thread but this is again plain FUD,
> LyX-1.5 is perfectly compilable with Qt-4.1.0. The INSTALL file only
> says that it has been _tested_ with Qt-4.1.5. All version of Qt-4.1.x
> are course binary and source compilable.

  But as we know things rarely are so black and white, this is why we 
advertise the _tested_ 4.1.5.

  In version 1.5.3 the README says that the minimum Qt required version is 
4.1.1

> Abdel.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms?

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 16:24:30 Steve Litt wrote:
> So I'd add something like:
>
> WARNING!!! ALWAYS DELETE AND RESTORE YOUR LYX 1.5.3 SOURCE TREE AFTER A
> BLOWN ./CONFIGURE OR MAKE!!!
>
> And then add a sentence saying why.

make clean is not enough?

I am asking although I suspect that the answer is "no." :-(

> Thanks
>
> SteveT

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms?

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:03:04 Steve Litt wrote:
>   --with-version-suffix=1.5.3

You can simply use --with-version-suffix and configure will put the right 
version for you. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Why oh why did you drop xforms?

2008-02-21 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 21 February 2008 19:55:28 Steve Litt wrote:
> On my box, every make, whether successful or failure, takes about 25
> minutes, and ./configure takes 5 minutes. I'm not going to have time to do
> that for at least a couple weeks.

  In such cases ccache is really useful. :-)

> The answer to that *would* be good to put in the doucmentation.

  FWIW I consider it not working to be a bug that needs to be fixed.
-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx crash when loading eps files

2008-02-19 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 05:55:21 Paul Johnson wrote:
 Is there any news on this trouble?  I'm a little puzzled by it.

 On Fedora 8, I just installed the bleeding edge KDE4 and found that
 lyx crashed, and then I googled my way to this thread.  I am running
 the lyx package that is distributed with Fedora updates.

  Are you using the 4.0.1 packages?

  The problem went way after the update to kde 4.0.1, I am also using the 
packages from kde-redhat.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx crash when loading eps files

2008-02-19 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 05:55:21 Paul Johnson wrote:
 Is there any news on this trouble?  I'm a little puzzled by it.

 On Fedora 8, I just installed the bleeding edge KDE4 and found that
 lyx crashed, and then I googled my way to this thread.  I am running
 the lyx package that is distributed with Fedora updates.

  Are you using the 4.0.1 packages?

  The problem went way after the update to kde 4.0.1, I am also using the 
packages from kde-redhat.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx crash when loading eps files

2008-02-19 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 05:55:21 Paul Johnson wrote:
> Is there any news on this trouble?  I'm a little puzzled by it.
>
> On Fedora 8, I just installed the bleeding edge KDE4 and found that
> lyx crashed, and then I googled my way to this thread.  I am running
> the lyx package that is distributed with Fedora updates.

  Are you using the 4.0.1 packages?

  The problem went way after the update to kde 4.0.1, I am also using the 
packages from kde-redhat.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: bug in conversion of old lyx file to 1.5.3 (uwthesis template)

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 23:55:02 Scott Otterson wrote:
 I'm trying to use lyx 1.5.3 to read a lyx file which was created with an
 older version of lyx (the University of Washington lyx thesis template:
 http://staff.washington.edu/fox/tex/uwthesis_lyx.zip).  When I open the
 file,  this triggers a lyx bug, either in lyx or within our install of
 lyx (error message below the dotted line).

 Could someone suggest a workaround?

  Decompress the zip file and work from there... :-)

 Thanks,

 Scott

-- 
José Abílio


Re: bug in conversion of old lyx file to 1.5.3 (uwthesis template)

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 31 January 2008 00:37:44 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 BTW, the traceback seems to relate to the zlib library.  Were you
 attempting to convert the file while it was in an archive?  The last
 line of the error dump suggests not, but I wonder why then lyx2lyx was
 executing something gzip-related.  FWIW, I unzipped the archive and
 loaded from the unzipped directory.

If you compress your lyx file using zip or gzip both lyx and lyx2lyx will work 
directly with the compressed file. That is a feature since 1.4 (IIRC).

-- 
José Abílio


Re: accents and dead keys

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 31 January 2008 09:41:59 Ignacio García wrote:
 Then, I should like to know if this behaviour also works for you, in
 other GNU/Linux
 flavours or O.S., and/or in other languages using dead keys for accent
 keys.

  Fedora 8 and a Portuguese keyboard here.
  The dead keys work just like you describe, why should this depend on the 
distribution and/or language?

 Thanks in advance and regards
 Ignacio García

-- 
José Abílio


Re: bug in conversion of old lyx file to 1.5.3 (uwthesis template)

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 23:55:02 Scott Otterson wrote:
 I'm trying to use lyx 1.5.3 to read a lyx file which was created with an
 older version of lyx (the University of Washington lyx thesis template:
 http://staff.washington.edu/fox/tex/uwthesis_lyx.zip).  When I open the
 file,  this triggers a lyx bug, either in lyx or within our install of
 lyx (error message below the dotted line).

 Could someone suggest a workaround?

  Decompress the zip file and work from there... :-)

 Thanks,

 Scott

-- 
José Abílio


Re: bug in conversion of old lyx file to 1.5.3 (uwthesis template)

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 31 January 2008 00:37:44 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 BTW, the traceback seems to relate to the zlib library.  Were you
 attempting to convert the file while it was in an archive?  The last
 line of the error dump suggests not, but I wonder why then lyx2lyx was
 executing something gzip-related.  FWIW, I unzipped the archive and
 loaded from the unzipped directory.

If you compress your lyx file using zip or gzip both lyx and lyx2lyx will work 
directly with the compressed file. That is a feature since 1.4 (IIRC).

-- 
José Abílio


Re: accents and dead keys

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 31 January 2008 09:41:59 Ignacio García wrote:
 Then, I should like to know if this behaviour also works for you, in
 other GNU/Linux
 flavours or O.S., and/or in other languages using dead keys for accent
 keys.

  Fedora 8 and a Portuguese keyboard here.
  The dead keys work just like you describe, why should this depend on the 
distribution and/or language?

 Thanks in advance and regards
 Ignacio García

-- 
José Abílio


Re: bug in conversion of old lyx file to 1.5.3 (uwthesis template)

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 23:55:02 Scott Otterson wrote:
> I'm trying to use lyx 1.5.3 to read a lyx file which was created with an
> older version of lyx (the University of Washington lyx thesis template:
> http://staff.washington.edu/fox/tex/uwthesis_lyx.zip).  When I open the
> file,  this triggers a lyx bug, either in lyx or within our install of
> lyx (error message below the dotted line).
>
> Could someone suggest a workaround?

  Decompress the zip file and work from there... :-)

> Thanks,
>
> Scott

-- 
José Abílio


Re: bug in conversion of old lyx file to 1.5.3 (uwthesis template)

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 31 January 2008 00:37:44 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> BTW, the traceback seems to relate to the zlib library.  Were you
> attempting to convert the file while it was in an archive?  The last
> line of the error dump suggests not, but I wonder why then lyx2lyx was
> executing something gzip-related.  FWIW, I unzipped the archive and
> loaded from the unzipped directory.

If you compress your lyx file using zip or gzip both lyx and lyx2lyx will work 
directly with the compressed file. That is a feature since 1.4 (IIRC).

-- 
José Abílio


Re: accents and dead keys

2008-01-31 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 31 January 2008 09:41:59 Ignacio García wrote:
> Then, I should like to know if this behaviour also works for you, in
> other GNU/Linux
> flavours or O.S., and/or in other languages using dead keys for accent
> keys.

  Fedora 8 and a Portuguese keyboard here.
  The dead keys work just like you describe, why should this depend on the 
distribution and/or language?

> Thanks in advance and regards
> Ignacio García

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-15 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 15 January 2008 13:14:45 rgheck wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Or how long it takes to compile LyX... :-) [*]
 
  [*] Seriously, I'm probably interested in the specs and what compile
  time you got when using e.g. two or three of the cores. But this is
  maybe better suited for the devel list.

 Actually, I'm still a newbie when it comes to multi-core and don't even
 know how to enable compilation on multiple cores. It seems to use only
 one core at a time. If you want to tell me how to enable that, I'll tell
 you what times I'm getting. But I'll tell you, I can develop a lot
 faster than I could before, and do it while doing other things.

  make -j 4

$ man make
...
   -j [jobs], --jobs[=jobs]
Specifies  the number of jobs (commands) to run simultaneously.

 Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-15 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:46:02 Steve Litt wrote:

 IIRC the Mandriva 2007 I use defaults to KDE and has lots and lots of KDE
 programs (I'm writing this on kmail), but my hatred of KDE is so profound
 that my first step was to switch to IceWM, and my second step was to find
 non-KDE substitutes for as many KDE programs as I could.

  With all the due respect :-) but this hate seems a bit irrational. :-)

  André (out mathed - mathematical editor - guru) still uses fvwm with 16 
desktops open, at least according to a recent message. I met him before and I 
have witness this so it seems that you are in good company. :-)

 It's my fervent hope that LyX never becomes a KDE program. Qt is OK, but
 IMHO KDE programs have too many needless interactions with other programs
 (like dcop server, gimme a break), needlessly causing crashiness and other
 problems.

  dcop is no more in kde 4, long live dbus. :-)

  Georg Baum tried before to build a kde frontend to lyx (that shared lots of 
code with the qt frontend), that would live at the same time with the qt 
frontend like we had before an xforms frontend.

  A frontend of lyx better integrated with kde seems a nice idea. :-)

  I can understand though some of the frustration with kde 3, kde 4 shows a 
lot of promisses and good ideas. I have been working with it in rawhide (pre 
Fedora 9) and like it a lot while some of the ideas seems solid (no pun 
intended).

 SteveT

 Steve Litt
 Books written in LyX:
   Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   Troubleshooting: Just the Facts

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-15 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 15 January 2008 13:14:45 rgheck wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Or how long it takes to compile LyX... :-) [*]
 
  [*] Seriously, I'm probably interested in the specs and what compile
  time you got when using e.g. two or three of the cores. But this is
  maybe better suited for the devel list.

 Actually, I'm still a newbie when it comes to multi-core and don't even
 know how to enable compilation on multiple cores. It seems to use only
 one core at a time. If you want to tell me how to enable that, I'll tell
 you what times I'm getting. But I'll tell you, I can develop a lot
 faster than I could before, and do it while doing other things.

  make -j 4

$ man make
...
   -j [jobs], --jobs[=jobs]
Specifies  the number of jobs (commands) to run simultaneously.

 Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-15 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:46:02 Steve Litt wrote:

 IIRC the Mandriva 2007 I use defaults to KDE and has lots and lots of KDE
 programs (I'm writing this on kmail), but my hatred of KDE is so profound
 that my first step was to switch to IceWM, and my second step was to find
 non-KDE substitutes for as many KDE programs as I could.

  With all the due respect :-) but this hate seems a bit irrational. :-)

  André (out mathed - mathematical editor - guru) still uses fvwm with 16 
desktops open, at least according to a recent message. I met him before and I 
have witness this so it seems that you are in good company. :-)

 It's my fervent hope that LyX never becomes a KDE program. Qt is OK, but
 IMHO KDE programs have too many needless interactions with other programs
 (like dcop server, gimme a break), needlessly causing crashiness and other
 problems.

  dcop is no more in kde 4, long live dbus. :-)

  Georg Baum tried before to build a kde frontend to lyx (that shared lots of 
code with the qt frontend), that would live at the same time with the qt 
frontend like we had before an xforms frontend.

  A frontend of lyx better integrated with kde seems a nice idea. :-)

  I can understand though some of the frustration with kde 3, kde 4 shows a 
lot of promisses and good ideas. I have been working with it in rawhide (pre 
Fedora 9) and like it a lot while some of the ideas seems solid (no pun 
intended).

 SteveT

 Steve Litt
 Books written in LyX:
   Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
   Troubleshooting: Just the Facts

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-15 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 15 January 2008 13:14:45 rgheck wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Or how long it takes to compile LyX... :-) [*]
> >
> > [*] Seriously, I'm probably interested in the specs and what compile
> > time you got when using e.g. two or three of the cores. But this is
> > maybe better suited for the devel list.
>
> Actually, I'm still a newbie when it comes to multi-core and don't even
> know how to enable compilation on multiple cores. It seems to use only
> one core at a time. If you want to tell me how to enable that, I'll tell
> you what times I'm getting. But I'll tell you, I can develop a lot
> faster than I could before, and do it while doing other things.

  make -j 4

$ man make
...
   -j [jobs], --jobs[=jobs]
Specifies  the number of jobs (commands) to run simultaneously.

> Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-15 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:46:02 Steve Litt wrote:
>
> IIRC the Mandriva 2007 I use defaults to KDE and has lots and lots of KDE
> programs (I'm writing this on kmail), but my hatred of KDE is so profound
> that my first step was to switch to IceWM, and my second step was to find
> non-KDE substitutes for as many KDE programs as I could.

  With all the due respect :-) but this hate seems a bit irrational. :-)

  André (out mathed - mathematical editor - guru) still uses fvwm with 16 
desktops open, at least according to a recent message. I met him before and I 
have witness this so it seems that you are in good company. :-)

> It's my fervent hope that LyX never becomes a KDE program. Qt is OK, but
> IMHO KDE programs have too many needless interactions with other programs
> (like dcop server, gimme a break), needlessly causing crashiness and other
> problems.

  dcop is no more in kde 4, long live dbus. :-)

  Georg Baum tried before to build a kde frontend to lyx (that shared lots of 
code with the qt frontend), that would live at the same time with the qt 
frontend like we had before an xforms frontend.

  A frontend of lyx better integrated with kde seems a nice idea. :-)

  I can understand though some of the frustration with kde 3, kde 4 shows a 
lot of promisses and good ideas. I have been working with it in rawhide (pre 
Fedora 9) and like it a lot while some of the ideas seems solid (no pun 
intended).

> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> Books written in LyX:
>   Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
>   Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
>   Troubleshooting: Just the Facts

-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx2lyx conversion

2008-01-14 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:02:43 rgheck wrote:
 If the file is from 1.5, upgrade to 1.4.5.1: It can read files from 1.5.
 If the problem is file corruption, we can try to solve the problem if
 you post the file here.

  Sometimes that is not possible due to privacy reasons, in some cases you can 
send the file privately to one of us and that is enough to fix the bug.

  If necessary we can supply a scrambler script, that replaces every printable 
character with an x.

 Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-14 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:18:05 rgheck wrote:
 I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the
 second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm
 thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is
 for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be
 quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What?

  What problems are you having? Rex Dieter, the fedora maintainer of lyx and 
of kde-redhat fame is very responsive and most of the perceived differences 
are gone.

  Actually I prefer the Fedora model for KDE for some reasons that I will not 
go into detail here... :-)

 Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx2lyx conversion

2008-01-14 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:02:43 rgheck wrote:
 If the file is from 1.5, upgrade to 1.4.5.1: It can read files from 1.5.
 If the problem is file corruption, we can try to solve the problem if
 you post the file here.

  Sometimes that is not possible due to privacy reasons, in some cases you can 
send the file privately to one of us and that is enough to fix the bug.

  If necessary we can supply a scrambler script, that replaces every printable 
character with an x.

 Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-14 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:18:05 rgheck wrote:
 I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the
 second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm
 thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is
 for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be
 quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What?

  What problems are you having? Rex Dieter, the fedora maintainer of lyx and 
of kde-redhat fame is very responsive and most of the perceived differences 
are gone.

  Actually I prefer the Fedora model for KDE for some reasons that I will not 
go into detail here... :-)

 Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx2lyx conversion

2008-01-14 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:02:43 rgheck wrote:
> If the file is from 1.5, upgrade to 1.4.5.1: It can read files from 1.5.
> If the problem is file corruption, we can try to solve the problem if
> you post the file here.

  Sometimes that is not possible due to privacy reasons, in some cases you can 
send the file privately to one of us and that is enough to fix the bug.

  If necessary we can supply a scrambler script, that replaces every printable 
character with an x.

> Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?

2008-01-14 Thread José Matos
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:18:05 rgheck wrote:
> I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the
> second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm
> thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is
> for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be
> quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What?

  What problems are you having? Rex Dieter, the fedora maintainer of lyx and 
of kde-redhat fame is very responsive and most of the perceived differences 
are gone.

  Actually I prefer the Fedora model for KDE for some reasons that I will not 
go into detail here... :-)

> Richard

-- 
José Abílio


Re: DocBook Support?

2008-01-04 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote:
 Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx
 (with any current versions)?

 Thanks!
 -Ryan

  I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery just 
before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-)

  Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to the wiki 
and then post a link here.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Reminder of otl2lyx.awk

2008-01-04 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 30 December 2007 19:05:04 Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi all,

 otl2lyx.awk has been tested and works for LyX 1.4.x. I hear 1.5.x has a
 different format, so obviously otl2lyx.awk must be changed to output the
 1.5.x type LyX, or maybe the LyX project offers a converter. Either way
 it's not rocket science.

  lyx2lyx is python script used to convert older documents and is used by 
default when reading old documents. So no convertion to the new format is 
needed unless you intend to use new elements not available in the old 
release.

  Since I suspect this is not the case then everything is OK. :-)

  BTW the same happens for other scripts like the csv2lyx that converts comma 
separated files to lyx documents with tables. The script was originally 
created for version 0.12 and it still works because the old files are 
converted with lyx2lyx.

 Thanks

 SteveT

 Steve Litt
 Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
 http://www.troubleshooters.com/

-- 
José Abílio


Re: DocBook Support?

2008-01-04 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote:
 Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx
 (with any current versions)?

 Thanks!
 -Ryan

  I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery just 
before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-)

  Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to the wiki 
and then post a link here.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Reminder of otl2lyx.awk

2008-01-04 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 30 December 2007 19:05:04 Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi all,

 otl2lyx.awk has been tested and works for LyX 1.4.x. I hear 1.5.x has a
 different format, so obviously otl2lyx.awk must be changed to output the
 1.5.x type LyX, or maybe the LyX project offers a converter. Either way
 it's not rocket science.

  lyx2lyx is python script used to convert older documents and is used by 
default when reading old documents. So no convertion to the new format is 
needed unless you intend to use new elements not available in the old 
release.

  Since I suspect this is not the case then everything is OK. :-)

  BTW the same happens for other scripts like the csv2lyx that converts comma 
separated files to lyx documents with tables. The script was originally 
created for version 0.12 and it still works because the old files are 
converted with lyx2lyx.

 Thanks

 SteveT

 Steve Litt
 Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
 http://www.troubleshooters.com/

-- 
José Abílio


Re: DocBook Support?

2008-01-04 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote:
> Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx
> (with any current versions)?
>
> Thanks!
> -Ryan

  I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery just 
before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-)

  Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to the wiki 
and then post a link here.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Reminder of otl2lyx.awk

2008-01-04 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 30 December 2007 19:05:04 Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> otl2lyx.awk has been tested and works for LyX 1.4.x. I hear 1.5.x has a
> different format, so obviously otl2lyx.awk must be changed to output the
> 1.5.x type LyX, or maybe the LyX project offers a converter. Either way
> it's not rocket science.

  lyx2lyx is python script used to convert older documents and is used by 
default when reading old documents. So no convertion to the new format is 
needed unless you intend to use new elements not available in the old 
release.

  Since I suspect this is not the case then everything is OK. :-)

  BTW the same happens for other scripts like the csv2lyx that converts comma 
separated files to lyx documents with tables. The script was originally 
created for version 0.12 and it still works because the old files are 
converted with lyx2lyx.

> Thanks
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/

-- 
José Abílio


Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-29 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 29 December 2007 00:37:44 Paul Smith wrote:
 Here: LyX 1.5.2 on Fedora 8. Hopefully, the official LyX 1.5.3 rpm for
 F8 will be available soon.

  That version is already in updates-testing

# yum update lyx --enable-repo=updates-testing

  should update lyx to the new version.

  It is not yet in updates due to the holidays. :-)

 Paul

-- 
José Abílio


Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-29 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 29 December 2007 00:37:44 Paul Smith wrote:
 Here: LyX 1.5.2 on Fedora 8. Hopefully, the official LyX 1.5.3 rpm for
 F8 will be available soon.

  That version is already in updates-testing

# yum update lyx --enable-repo=updates-testing

  should update lyx to the new version.

  It is not yet in updates due to the holidays. :-)

 Paul

-- 
José Abílio


Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-29 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 29 December 2007 00:37:44 Paul Smith wrote:
> Here: LyX 1.5.2 on Fedora 8. Hopefully, the official LyX 1.5.3 rpm for
> F8 will be available soon.

  That version is already in updates-testing

# yum update lyx --enable-repo=updates-testing

  should update lyx to the new version.

  It is not yet in updates due to the holidays. :-)

> Paul

-- 
José Abílio


Re: dejavu fonts with texlive (fedora 8)

2007-12-12 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:37:01 Neal Becker wrote:
 I noticed after installing texlive on fedora f8 that now if I create a
 beamer document, the default fonts are ugly, and they are coming from:
 /usr/share/fonts/dejavu-lgc/DejaVuLGCSans.ttf

 If I do \usepackage{cmlgc}, everything is cool.

 Where did this default get set and how to change it?

This happens for all documents, not just beamer.

If for some reason you specify other font like latin modern the output is OK.

Since I had not yet the chance to do a clean install I am not sure if this is 
a problem with the texlive configuration files or a real bug in the rpm 
packages.
-- 
José Abílio


Re: Lyx en español

2007-12-12 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 17:24:00 Todd Denniston wrote:
 Automatically translated text:
 Comapñeros of habal Hispanic. We ask in Spanish?

There was a type here, it is Compañeros. So the translations should be 
something like:

Dear Spanish speaker fellows may I ask questions in Spanish?

Your answer was on spot so I will not complain about that. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: dejavu fonts with texlive (fedora 8)

2007-12-12 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:37:01 Neal Becker wrote:
 I noticed after installing texlive on fedora f8 that now if I create a
 beamer document, the default fonts are ugly, and they are coming from:
 /usr/share/fonts/dejavu-lgc/DejaVuLGCSans.ttf

 If I do \usepackage{cmlgc}, everything is cool.

 Where did this default get set and how to change it?

This happens for all documents, not just beamer.

If for some reason you specify other font like latin modern the output is OK.

Since I had not yet the chance to do a clean install I am not sure if this is 
a problem with the texlive configuration files or a real bug in the rpm 
packages.
-- 
José Abílio


Re: Lyx en español

2007-12-12 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 17:24:00 Todd Denniston wrote:
 Automatically translated text:
 Comapñeros of habal Hispanic. We ask in Spanish?

There was a type here, it is Compañeros. So the translations should be 
something like:

Dear Spanish speaker fellows may I ask questions in Spanish?

Your answer was on spot so I will not complain about that. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: dejavu fonts with texlive (fedora 8)

2007-12-12 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:37:01 Neal Becker wrote:
> I noticed after installing texlive on fedora f8 that now if I create a
> beamer document, the default fonts are ugly, and they are coming from:
> /usr/share/fonts/dejavu-lgc/DejaVuLGCSans.ttf
>
> If I do \usepackage{cmlgc}, everything is cool.
>
> Where did this default get set and how to change it?

This happens for all documents, not just beamer.

If for some reason you specify other font like latin modern the output is OK.

Since I had not yet the chance to do a clean install I am not sure if this is 
a problem with the texlive configuration files or a real bug in the rpm 
packages.
-- 
José Abílio


Re: Lyx en español

2007-12-12 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 17:24:00 Todd Denniston wrote:
> Automatically translated text:
> Comapñeros of habal Hispanic. We ask in Spanish?

There was a type here, it is Compañeros. So the translations should be 
something like:

Dear Spanish speaker fellows may I ask questions in Spanish?

Your answer was on spot so I will not complain about that. :-)

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-10 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 17:54:40 Rex Dieter wrote:
 If you could try the kde-3.96 update coming to updates-testing soon, and
 let folks know if it helps or not, it would be greatly appreciated.

 Else, someone (hint hint, else will probably will fall to me or others of
 fedora's KDE SIG  :)) is to pinpoint where in kdelibs the bug lies, and
 report that upstream to bugs.kde.org.

  Sure we will let you know if this works. :-)

 -- Rex

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-10 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 17:53:00 Rex Dieter wrote:
 What is most likely, afaict, is that this is a bug in some version(s)
 kdelibs4, and this isn't fedora (8) specific at all.

  I agree with Rex on this point. :-)

 -- Rex

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-10 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 17:54:40 Rex Dieter wrote:
 If you could try the kde-3.96 update coming to updates-testing soon, and
 let folks know if it helps or not, it would be greatly appreciated.

 Else, someone (hint hint, else will probably will fall to me or others of
 fedora's KDE SIG  :)) is to pinpoint where in kdelibs the bug lies, and
 report that upstream to bugs.kde.org.

  Sure we will let you know if this works. :-)

 -- Rex

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-10 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 17:53:00 Rex Dieter wrote:
 What is most likely, afaict, is that this is a bug in some version(s)
 kdelibs4, and this isn't fedora (8) specific at all.

  I agree with Rex on this point. :-)

 -- Rex

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-10 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 17:54:40 Rex Dieter wrote:
> If you could try the kde-3.96 update coming to updates-testing soon, and
> let folks know if it helps or not, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Else, someone (hint hint, else will probably will fall to me or others of
> fedora's KDE SIG  :)) is to pinpoint where in kdelibs the bug lies, and
> report that upstream to bugs.kde.org.

  Sure we will let you know if this works. :-)

> -- Rex

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-10 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 17:53:00 Rex Dieter wrote:
> What is most likely, afaict, is that this is a bug in some version(s)
> kdelibs4, and this isn't fedora (8) specific at all.

  I agree with Rex on this point. :-)

> -- Rex

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-09 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 10:20:06 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Did you try my suggestion on bugzilla (uninstalling KDE4)?

  I suspect that you are right.

  In my new desktop I have not (yet) installed kde4 and lyx displays figures 
and math previews. On my laptop were kde4libs are installed it crashes as 
soon as I enable figures display. :-(

  As I said before this only happens for some eps figures (not all) but the 
User's Guide is perfect example where it crashes.

  A simple recipe to duplicate this bug is:

  Help-User's Guide

  crash

 Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-09 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 10:20:06 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Did you try my suggestion on bugzilla (uninstalling KDE4)?

  I suspect that you are right.

  In my new desktop I have not (yet) installed kde4 and lyx displays figures 
and math previews. On my laptop were kde4libs are installed it crashes as 
soon as I enable figures display. :-(

  As I said before this only happens for some eps figures (not all) but the 
User's Guide is perfect example where it crashes.

  A simple recipe to duplicate this bug is:

  Help-User's Guide

  crash

 Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio


Re: TeXLive rpm packages available to Fedora 8 users

2007-12-09 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 09 December 2007 10:20:06 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Did you try my suggestion on bugzilla (uninstalling KDE4)?

  I suspect that you are right.

  In my new desktop I have not (yet) installed kde4 and lyx displays figures 
and math previews. On my laptop were kde4libs are installed it crashes as 
soon as I enable figures display. :-(

  As I said before this only happens for some eps figures (not all) but the 
User's Guide is perfect example where it crashes.

  A simple recipe to duplicate this bug is:

  Help->User's Guide

  crash

> Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx2lyx failure

2007-12-08 Thread José Matos
On Friday 07 December 2007 19:47:25 Christopher Menzel wrote:
 Howdy,

 I am unable to import some older LyX files (from 2000 -- LyX format
 version 215) and I'm not finding any solutions on the web or the LyX
 archives or Wiki.  Inside LyX, I get the following msg:

(MyFile) is from a different version of LyX, but the lyx2lyx script
 failed to convert it.

 When I try to run lyx2lyx from the command line I get the following
 debug info:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./lyx2lyx, line 101, in module
  sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
File ./lyx2lyx, line 92, in main
  file = LyX.File(end_format, input, output, error, debug,
 try_hard, cjk_encoding)
File /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py,
 line 556, in __init__
  self.read()
File /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py,
 line 242, in read
  self.encoding = get_encoding(self.language, self.inputencoding,
 self.format, self.cjk_encoding)
File /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py,
 line 128, in get_encoding
  return lang[language][3]
 KeyError: 'default'

 Looking through the LyX file, I do not see any unusual characters;
 appears to be standard ASCII all the way.  Help/advice appreciated.

  A fix to this problem was committed to the next version (1.5.3).

Meanwhile a simple fix is to change the file by hand.

Where it says (in the first lines of the file)

\language default

change it to

\language english

As I said this problem is already fixed in svn. This is just a shortcut in the 
meanwhile.

 Chris Menzel

-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx2lyx failure

2007-12-08 Thread José Matos
On Friday 07 December 2007 19:47:25 Christopher Menzel wrote:
 Howdy,

 I am unable to import some older LyX files (from 2000 -- LyX format
 version 215) and I'm not finding any solutions on the web or the LyX
 archives or Wiki.  Inside LyX, I get the following msg:

(MyFile) is from a different version of LyX, but the lyx2lyx script
 failed to convert it.

 When I try to run lyx2lyx from the command line I get the following
 debug info:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./lyx2lyx, line 101, in module
  sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
File ./lyx2lyx, line 92, in main
  file = LyX.File(end_format, input, output, error, debug,
 try_hard, cjk_encoding)
File /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py,
 line 556, in __init__
  self.read()
File /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py,
 line 242, in read
  self.encoding = get_encoding(self.language, self.inputencoding,
 self.format, self.cjk_encoding)
File /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py,
 line 128, in get_encoding
  return lang[language][3]
 KeyError: 'default'

 Looking through the LyX file, I do not see any unusual characters;
 appears to be standard ASCII all the way.  Help/advice appreciated.

  A fix to this problem was committed to the next version (1.5.3).

Meanwhile a simple fix is to change the file by hand.

Where it says (in the first lines of the file)

\language default

change it to

\language english

As I said this problem is already fixed in svn. This is just a shortcut in the 
meanwhile.

 Chris Menzel

-- 
José Abílio


Re: lyx2lyx failure

2007-12-08 Thread José Matos
On Friday 07 December 2007 19:47:25 Christopher Menzel wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I am unable to import some older LyX files (from 2000 -- LyX format
> version 215) and I'm not finding any solutions on the web or the LyX
> archives or Wiki.  Inside LyX, I get the following msg:
>
>(MyFile) is from a different version of LyX, but the lyx2lyx script
> failed to convert it.
>
> When I try to run lyx2lyx from the command line I get the following
> debug info:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "./lyx2lyx", line 101, in 
>  sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
>File "./lyx2lyx", line 92, in main
>  file = LyX.File(end_format, input, output, error, debug,
> try_hard, cjk_encoding)
>File "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py",
> line 556, in __init__
>  self.read()
>File "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py",
> line 242, in read
>  self.encoding = get_encoding(self.language, self.inputencoding,
> self.format, self.cjk_encoding)
>File "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/lyx2lyx/LyX.py",
> line 128, in get_encoding
>  return lang[language][3]
> KeyError: 'default'
>
> Looking through the LyX file, I do not see any unusual characters;
> appears to be standard ASCII all the way.  Help/advice appreciated.

  A fix to this problem was committed to the next version (1.5.3).

Meanwhile a simple fix is to change the file by hand.

Where it says (in the first lines of the file)

\language default

change it to

\language english

As I said this problem is already fixed in svn. This is just a shortcut in the 
meanwhile.

> Chris Menzel

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Getting errors with microtype

2007-11-28 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 22:27:00 Paul Smith wrote:
 However, it only contains F8 packages and none of F7.

 Paul

I had the same complain. :-)
Jindřich Nový replied that those packages work in F7 as well.
The only exception is xdvi that requires some symbol from the new glibc 
shipped with F8.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Getting errors with microtype

2007-11-28 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 22:27:00 Paul Smith wrote:
 However, it only contains F8 packages and none of F7.

 Paul

I had the same complain. :-)
Jindřich Nový replied that those packages work in F7 as well.
The only exception is xdvi that requires some symbol from the new glibc 
shipped with F8.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Getting errors with microtype

2007-11-28 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 22:27:00 Paul Smith wrote:
> However, it only contains F8 packages and none of F7.
>
> Paul

I had the same complain. :-)
Jindřich Nový replied that those packages work in F7 as well.
The only exception is xdvi that requires some symbol from the new glibc 
shipped with F8.

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Getting errors with microtype

2007-11-27 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 24 November 2007 12:48:34 Paul Smith wrote:
 How can one update pdfeTeX to a newer version? I am using Fedora Linux 7.

  It is possible to install the texlive packages that are under review for 
Fedora inclusion in Fedora 7. The idea is to replace tetex by texlive and the 
packages are the work of the same package maintainer of tetex for Fedora. 
Those texlive packages will replace tetex for Fedora 9.

  I have used them previously in Fedora 7 (I am using now Fedora 8) and it 
works.

 Paul

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Re: DocBook Support?

2007-11-27 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 22 November 2007 22:12:56 Ryan Cross wrote:
 I don't know much about linuxdoc - but I am pretty sure I am correctly
 referring to docbook. Its an xml format for generating multiple types of
 documentation, pdf/html/chm (windows help files)/etc

 You can see lyx linked directly from the docbook wiki
 http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools

 Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in
 docbook though)

  I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will 
return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-)

 -Ryan

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Re: Getting errors with microtype

2007-11-27 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 24 November 2007 12:48:34 Paul Smith wrote:
 How can one update pdfeTeX to a newer version? I am using Fedora Linux 7.

  It is possible to install the texlive packages that are under review for 
Fedora inclusion in Fedora 7. The idea is to replace tetex by texlive and the 
packages are the work of the same package maintainer of tetex for Fedora. 
Those texlive packages will replace tetex for Fedora 9.

  I have used them previously in Fedora 7 (I am using now Fedora 8) and it 
works.

 Paul

-- 
José Abílio


Re: DocBook Support?

2007-11-27 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 22 November 2007 22:12:56 Ryan Cross wrote:
 I don't know much about linuxdoc - but I am pretty sure I am correctly
 referring to docbook. Its an xml format for generating multiple types of
 documentation, pdf/html/chm (windows help files)/etc

 You can see lyx linked directly from the docbook wiki
 http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools

 Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in
 docbook though)

  I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will 
return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-)

 -Ryan

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Getting errors with microtype

2007-11-27 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 24 November 2007 12:48:34 Paul Smith wrote:
> How can one update pdfeTeX to a newer version? I am using Fedora Linux 7.

  It is possible to install the texlive packages that are under review for 
Fedora inclusion in Fedora 7. The idea is to replace tetex by texlive and the 
packages are the work of the same package maintainer of tetex for Fedora. 
Those texlive packages will replace tetex for Fedora 9.

  I have used them previously in Fedora 7 (I am using now Fedora 8) and it 
works.

> Paul

-- 
José Abílio


Re: DocBook Support?

2007-11-27 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 22 November 2007 22:12:56 Ryan Cross wrote:
> I don't know much about linuxdoc - but I am pretty sure I am correctly
> referring to docbook. Its an xml format for generating multiple types of
> documentation, pdf/html/chm (windows help files)/etc
>
> You can see lyx linked directly from the docbook wiki
> http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools
>
> Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in
> docbook though)

  I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will 
return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-)

> -Ryan

-- 
José Abílio


Re: DocBook Support?

2007-11-22 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 22 November 2007 10:40:03 Ryan Cross wrote:
 Hi,

 I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook
 documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more.

  I think that you are referring to linuxdoc and not to docbook.

 Does 
 anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version.

 -Ryan



-- 
José Abílio


Re: DocBook Support?

2007-11-22 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 22 November 2007 10:40:03 Ryan Cross wrote:
 Hi,

 I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook
 documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more.

  I think that you are referring to linuxdoc and not to docbook.

 Does 
 anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version.

 -Ryan



-- 
José Abílio


Re: DocBook Support?

2007-11-22 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 22 November 2007 10:40:03 Ryan Cross wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook
> documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more.

  I think that you are referring to linuxdoc and not to docbook.

> Does 
> anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version.
>
> -Ryan



-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX 1.5.2: Some document classes not available

2007-11-21 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 02:59:24 Koji Yokota wrote:
 SGMLtools was succeeded by SGMLtools-Lite. It can be found at:

 http://sgmltools-lite.sourceforge.net/

 As SGML is already becoming obsolete, you may want to consider using
 DocBook as the above webpage tells you.

  I think you meant above linuxdoc not SGML because both docbook and XML are 
SGML. :-)

 Koji

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX 1.5.2: Some document classes not available

2007-11-21 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 02:59:24 Koji Yokota wrote:
 SGMLtools was succeeded by SGMLtools-Lite. It can be found at:

 http://sgmltools-lite.sourceforge.net/

 As SGML is already becoming obsolete, you may want to consider using
 DocBook as the above webpage tells you.

  I think you meant above linuxdoc not SGML because both docbook and XML are 
SGML. :-)

 Koji

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX 1.5.2: Some document classes "not available"

2007-11-21 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 02:59:24 Koji Yokota wrote:
> SGMLtools was succeeded by SGMLtools-Lite. It can be found at:
>
> http://sgmltools-lite.sourceforge.net/
>
> As SGML is already becoming obsolete, you may want to consider using
> DocBook as the above webpage tells you.

  I think you meant above linuxdoc not SGML because both docbook and XML are 
SGML. :-)

> Koji

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX 1.5.2: Some document classes not available

2007-11-20 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 14:05:27 Patrick Schoenbach wrote:
 Thanks. This already helps. However, www.sgmltools.org does not exist
 anymore. Where do I get SGMLTools for Windows from? Google does not help
 much, or did I overlook something?

  That is not a latex class. (personal note) I need to update the 
information. :-)

 Regards,
 Patrick

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX 1.5.2: Some document classes not available

2007-11-20 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 14:05:27 Patrick Schoenbach wrote:
 Thanks. This already helps. However, www.sgmltools.org does not exist
 anymore. Where do I get SGMLTools for Windows from? Google does not help
 much, or did I overlook something?

  That is not a latex class. (personal note) I need to update the 
information. :-)

 Regards,
 Patrick

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX 1.5.2: Some document classes "not available"

2007-11-20 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 14:05:27 Patrick Schoenbach wrote:
> Thanks. This already helps. However, www.sgmltools.org does not exist
> anymore. Where do I get SGMLTools for Windows from? Google does not help
> much, or did I overlook something?

  That is not a latex class. (personal note) I need to update the 
information. :-)

> Regards,
> Patrick

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Script Conversion Failure

2007-11-09 Thread José Matos
On Friday 09 November 2007 16:42:25 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 The lyx2lyx script has an optional argument indicating the format to
 which to convert.  (It also has an optional from argument, though I
 don't see in the code where that is used.  But then I don't really speak
 Python.)

  LyX always calls lyx2lyx with the right argument, so in theory you should be 
able to plunge any more recent lyx2lyx into 1.4.x and have it working.

 It might be that if you acquire just the lyx2lyx directory 
 from 1.5.x, and have a reasonably up-to-date version of Python
 installed, you could convert recent files backward to 1.4.x.

  python 2.3.4

 It looks 
 to me as though the script I have in 1.5.2 is designed for backward as
 well as forward conversions.  But the script that shipped with 1.4.x
 would not be able to convert to/from 1.5.x formats.

  The latest version of 1.4.x (1.4.5.1) is able to read 1.5.x documents. That 
was the mainly purpose of its release. :-)

 /Paul

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Script Conversion Failure

2007-11-09 Thread José Matos
On Friday 09 November 2007 16:56:54 José Matos wrote:
   The latest version of 1.4.x (1.4.5.1) is able to read 1.5.x documents.
 That was the mainly purpose of its release. :-)

That was the main purpose of its release...

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Script Conversion Failure

2007-11-09 Thread José Matos
On Friday 09 November 2007 16:42:25 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 The lyx2lyx script has an optional argument indicating the format to
 which to convert.  (It also has an optional from argument, though I
 don't see in the code where that is used.  But then I don't really speak
 Python.)

  LyX always calls lyx2lyx with the right argument, so in theory you should be 
able to plunge any more recent lyx2lyx into 1.4.x and have it working.

 It might be that if you acquire just the lyx2lyx directory 
 from 1.5.x, and have a reasonably up-to-date version of Python
 installed, you could convert recent files backward to 1.4.x.

  python 2.3.4

 It looks 
 to me as though the script I have in 1.5.2 is designed for backward as
 well as forward conversions.  But the script that shipped with 1.4.x
 would not be able to convert to/from 1.5.x formats.

  The latest version of 1.4.x (1.4.5.1) is able to read 1.5.x documents. That 
was the mainly purpose of its release. :-)

 /Paul

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Script Conversion Failure

2007-11-09 Thread José Matos
On Friday 09 November 2007 16:56:54 José Matos wrote:
   The latest version of 1.4.x (1.4.5.1) is able to read 1.5.x documents.
 That was the mainly purpose of its release. :-)

That was the main purpose of its release...

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Script Conversion Failure

2007-11-09 Thread José Matos
On Friday 09 November 2007 16:42:25 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> The lyx2lyx script has an optional argument indicating the format to
> which to convert.  (It also has an optional from argument, though I
> don't see in the code where that is used.  But then I don't really speak
> Python.)

  LyX always calls lyx2lyx with the right argument, so in theory you should be 
able to plunge any more recent lyx2lyx into 1.4.x and have it working.

> It might be that if you acquire just the lyx2lyx directory 
> from 1.5.x, and have a reasonably up-to-date version of Python
> installed, you could convert recent files backward to 1.4.x.

  python 2.3.4

> It looks 
> to me as though the script I have in 1.5.2 is designed for backward as
> well as forward conversions.  But the script that shipped with 1.4.x
> would not be able to convert to/from 1.5.x formats.

  The latest version of 1.4.x (1.4.5.1) is able to read 1.5.x documents. That 
was the mainly purpose of its release. :-)

> /Paul

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Script Conversion Failure

2007-11-09 Thread José Matos
On Friday 09 November 2007 16:56:54 José Matos wrote:
>   The latest version of 1.4.x (1.4.5.1) is able to read 1.5.x documents.
> That was the mainly purpose of its release. :-)

That was the main purpose of its release...

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Enumarating lists and continuation at particular depth

2007-11-08 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 08 November 2007 21:57:51 Bruce Pourciau wrote:
 When I try to open example lyx files posted on this list, I get a
 conversion script failure: filename.lyz is from an earlier version
 of lyx, but the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it I'm running LyX
 1.4.1. Must I upgrade to 1.5?

  To read this file you need version 1.4.5.1. Or as you suggested version 1.5.

  I would recommend an upgrade, but then I am biased. :-)

  BTW for what is worth the new error messages in this case is more accurate 
saying that the file is from a different version.

 Bruce

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