Trouble Installing LyX on a new Surface Book 2

2018-08-27 Thread Rick Taylor
Hello everyone,

I’m a math instructor in a community college in Cupertino California.

I just bought a new Microsoft Windows Surface Book 2. After having to
remove and re-install LyX with Mik-TeX several times, I think it’s almost
working.

MikTeX appears to be working. I’m able to create and process documents
using TexWorks.

When I load a tutorial document in LyX and  hit ^R, it tells me “No PDF
viewer installed. Please Install a PDF viewer such as Adobe Reader.” After
that, Windows told me "LyX2.3exe has stopped working” and closed the
program for me.

As I said, MikTeX seems to be able to find a PDF viewer fine, and of course
the installer for LyX installed a copy of Ghostscript, so I’m baffled as to
why this isn’t working, and why LyX froze.

When I go into LyX and select Tools>Preferences>File Handling>File Formats,
under Viewer it says “none.” When I bring down the dropdown list under
viewer, the only other choice is custom.

When I go under Tools>Preferences>Path and look under Path prefix, I see a
long list that includes the directory for Ghostscript.

$LyXDir\bin;$LyXDir\Python;$LyXDir\Python\Lib;$LyXDir\Perl\bin;$LyXDir\imagemagick;C:\Users\Misty\AppData\Local\Programs\MiKTeX
2.9\miktex\bin\x64;C:\Users\Misty\AppData\Local\LyX
2.3\ghostscript\bin;C:\Program Files\Inkscape

I’ve tried Tools>Reconfigure.

I would very much appreciate help on what I should try next.

Thank you,

Rick Taylor


RE: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a different textclass

2012-06-13 Thread Rick Blok - LR
Jup. Good to hear it's not just me :) 
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8199 

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


 -Original Message-
 From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [mailto:sp...@lyx.org]
 Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2012 20:56
 To: Rick Blok - LR
 Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; LyX-Devel
 Subject: Re: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a
 different textclass
 
 2012/6/12 Rick Blok:
  However, sometimes Lyx keeps processing my documents for ever, but
  without any activity (no cpu load, nor pdflatex running). I once let
  it continue overnight without result. I've noticed a few times that
  when it hangs, the last entry in the message log is that the child
  document has a different textclass. When lyx compiles my document
  successfully, I cannot find such a message in the log. Also, I can't
  remember that this has happened when the child document has the 'right'
 text class.
 
 
  Has anyone else noticed this? I can't reproduce it consistently and it
  could just be me/my install/computer.
 
 Yes, I face this, too, every now and then. I never tracked it down to a
 pattern, but now that you say it, I think it occurred to me with different
 master/child classes only, as well.
 
 Alas, I have no time to have a closer look at the source currently. I had a 
 quick
 look, but the process in question changed significantly since I last checked 
 it
 (it is now fed into a thread, and I suspect the thing somehow gets stuck in
 that thread).
 
 Can you file a bug report?
 
 Jürgen


Re: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a different textclass

2012-06-13 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I do have v0.5, but lyx hanging and tikz errors are unrelated issues.
When export just the child document with my textclass Lyx usually spits out 
error messages instead of pdf, but not always though. I suspect it's any of the 
packages used in the document class that tikz doesn't like. I've no problems 
with tikz once my graphs are cached.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok



RE: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a different textclass

2012-06-13 Thread Rick Blok - LR
Jup. Good to hear it's not just me :) 
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8199 

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


 -Original Message-
 From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [mailto:sp...@lyx.org]
 Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2012 20:56
 To: Rick Blok - LR
 Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; LyX-Devel
 Subject: Re: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a
 different textclass
 
 2012/6/12 Rick Blok:
  However, sometimes Lyx keeps processing my documents for ever, but
  without any activity (no cpu load, nor pdflatex running). I once let
  it continue overnight without result. I've noticed a few times that
  when it hangs, the last entry in the message log is that the child
  document has a different textclass. When lyx compiles my document
  successfully, I cannot find such a message in the log. Also, I can't
  remember that this has happened when the child document has the 'right'
 text class.
 
 
  Has anyone else noticed this? I can't reproduce it consistently and it
  could just be me/my install/computer.
 
 Yes, I face this, too, every now and then. I never tracked it down to a
 pattern, but now that you say it, I think it occurred to me with different
 master/child classes only, as well.
 
 Alas, I have no time to have a closer look at the source currently. I had a 
 quick
 look, but the process in question changed significantly since I last checked 
 it
 (it is now fed into a thread, and I suspect the thing somehow gets stuck in
 that thread).
 
 Can you file a bug report?
 
 Jürgen


Re: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a different textclass

2012-06-13 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I do have v0.5, but lyx hanging and tikz errors are unrelated issues.
When export just the child document with my textclass Lyx usually spits out 
error messages instead of pdf, but not always though. I suspect it's any of the 
packages used in the document class that tikz doesn't like. I've no problems 
with tikz once my graphs are cached.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok



RE: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a different textclass

2012-06-13 Thread Rick Blok - LR
Jup. Good to hear it's not just me :) 
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8199 

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


> -Original Message-
> From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [mailto:sp...@lyx.org]
> Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2012 20:56
> To: Rick Blok - LR
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; LyX-Devel
> Subject: Re: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a
> different textclass
> 
> 2012/6/12 Rick Blok:
> > However, sometimes Lyx keeps processing my documents for ever, but
> > without any activity (no cpu load, nor pdflatex running). I once let
> > it continue overnight without result. I've noticed a few times that
> > when it hangs, the last entry in the message log is that the child
> > document has a different textclass. When lyx compiles my document
> > successfully, I cannot find such a message in the log. Also, I can't
> > remember that this has happened when the child document has the 'right'
> text class.
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else noticed this? I can't reproduce it consistently and it
> > could just be me/my install/computer.
> 
> Yes, I face this, too, every now and then. I never tracked it down to a
> pattern, but now that you say it, I think it occurred to me with different
> master/child classes only, as well.
> 
> Alas, I have no time to have a closer look at the source currently. I had a 
> quick
> look, but the process in question changed significantly since I last checked 
> it
> (it is now fed into a thread, and I suspect the thing somehow gets stuck in
> that thread).
> 
> Can you file a bug report?
> 
> Jürgen


Re: Compiling pdf sometimes stops when child document has a different textclass

2012-06-13 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I do have v0.5, but lyx hanging and tikz errors are unrelated issues.
When export just the child document with my textclass Lyx usually spits out 
error messages instead of pdf, but not always though. I suspect it's any of the 
packages used in the document class that tikz doesn't like. I've no problems 
with tikz once my graphs are cached.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok



RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-08 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

 If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
 in
 MiKTeX's
 bin folder

 No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
 window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
 newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
 But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

  but when I compile a document with multiple   indexes, I see only my text 
  and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

 and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which
 contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

 Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-08 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

 If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
 in
 MiKTeX's
 bin folder

 No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
 window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
 newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
 But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

  but when I compile a document with multiple   indexes, I see only my text 
  and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

 and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which
 contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

 Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-08 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

>> If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
>> in
> MiKTeX's
>> bin folder
>
> No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
> window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
> newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
> But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

 >> but when I compile a document with multiple  >> indexes, I see only my text 
 >> and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

> and do you have a older named "~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib" which
>> contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?
>
> Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-06 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
 added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
 indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file 
name database? Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button 
below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database and then 
reconfigure LyX?

If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's 
bin folder and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which 
contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-06 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
 added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
 indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file 
name database? Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button 
below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database and then 
reconfigure LyX?

If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's 
bin folder and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which 
contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-06 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've just checked the computer were I don't have admin rights, and I don't see 
perl.exe in the bin folder, and I also don't have a lib-folder.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2012 0:25
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 05.06.2012 21:27, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

> Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
> added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
> indexes, I see only my text and no indexes.

Not good. But does it work if you reconfigure LyX after updating MiKTeX's file 
name database? Of not, does it work if you rebuild MiKTeX's formats (the button 
below refreshing the database), then refresh the file name database and then 
reconfigure LyX?

If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see in MiKTeX's 
bin folder and do you have a older named "~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib" which 
contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

Many thanks for helping testing and best regards Uwe


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've noticed the warning in the installer, but I've installed 2.0.3 in the same 
way and I haven't noticed any problems. MikTeX is the portable version and sits 
in a directory were I've got write access. Lyx is using it (got multiple 
versions on the computer) since the right folder is in lyxrc.dist, preferences 
dialog and in tex information, and I've got no latex in my path. I can't see 
any new files in MikTeX's bin folder.

I will try later on a computer were I've got admin privileges.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: maandag 4 juni 2012 22:56
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
 on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find 
time to check the case that MiKTeX was installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it 
is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features because files like a 
Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Blok - LR
Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes. I updated miktex, but that also 
didn't help.

Rick

From: Uwe Stöhr [uwesto...@web.de]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:55 PM
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
 on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case 
that MiKTeX was
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and 
some other features
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. 
If it was installed
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've noticed the warning in the installer, but I've installed 2.0.3 in the same 
way and I haven't noticed any problems. MikTeX is the portable version and sits 
in a directory were I've got write access. Lyx is using it (got multiple 
versions on the computer) since the right folder is in lyxrc.dist, preferences 
dialog and in tex information, and I've got no latex in my path. I can't see 
any new files in MikTeX's bin folder.

I will try later on a computer were I've got admin privileges.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: maandag 4 juni 2012 22:56
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
 on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find 
time to check the case that MiKTeX was installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it 
is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features because files like a 
Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Blok - LR
Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes. I updated miktex, but that also 
didn't help.

Rick

From: Uwe Stöhr [uwesto...@web.de]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:55 PM
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

 I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
 on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case 
that MiKTeX was
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and 
some other features
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. 
If it was installed
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I've noticed the warning in the installer, but I've installed 2.0.3 in the same 
way and I haven't noticed any problems. MikTeX is the portable version and sits 
in a directory were I've got write access. Lyx is using it (got multiple 
versions on the computer) since the right folder is in lyxrc.dist, preferences 
dialog and in tex information, and I've got no latex in my path. I can't see 
any new files in MikTeX's bin folder.

I will try later on a computer were I've got admin privileges.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok


-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: maandag 4 juni 2012 22:56
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

> I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
> on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find 
time to check the case that MiKTeX was installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it 
is impossible to enable splitindex and some other features because files like a 
Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. If it was installed 
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe


RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-05 Thread Rick Blok - LR
Doesn't work on a computer with admin rights either. I saw that files were 
added to miktex's bin folder, but when I compile a document with multiple 
indexes, I see only my text and no indexes. I updated miktex, but that also 
didn't help.

Rick

From: Uwe Stöhr [uwesto...@web.de]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:55 PM
To: Rick Blok - LR
Cc: 'lyx-users@lists.lyx.org'
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 04.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:

> I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable 
> on win7 w/o admin rights.

The installer in general still requires admin privileges. The problem is in one 
hand Imagemagick and
on the other hand MiKTeX. For MiKTeX I did not yet find time to check the case 
that MiKTeX was
installed as admin, but LyX not. Then it is impossible to enable splitindex and 
some other features
because files like a Perl interpreter need to be added to MiKTeX's bin folder. 
If it was installed
as admin, LyX installed as user can't write in this directory.

So does it work if you install the test release with admin privileges?

regards Uwe


testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-04 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights. If I disable multiple indices, pdf output shows an 
index, but it shows only my text when it's enabled.

Dutch spell check works.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok



testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-04 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights. If I disable multiple indices, pdf output shows an 
index, but it shows only my text when it's enabled.

Dutch spell check works.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok



testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

2012-06-04 Thread Rick Blok - LR
I can't seem to get the split indexes feature to work using Miktex portable on 
win7 w/o admin rights. If I disable multiple indices, pdf output shows an 
index, but it shows only my text when it's enabled.

Dutch spell check works.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok



RE: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Blok, Rick
Libreoffice, except for the search and search and replace icons. Those are 
better in oxygen.



-Original Message-
From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org [mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org] On Behalf Of 
Bruce Pourciau
Sent: donderdag 31 maart 2011 14:45
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0




 libreoffice




RE: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Blok, Rick
Libreoffice, except for the search and search and replace icons. Those are 
better in oxygen.



-Original Message-
From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org [mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org] On Behalf Of 
Bruce Pourciau
Sent: donderdag 31 maart 2011 14:45
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0




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RE: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Blok, Rick
Libreoffice, except for the search and search and replace icons. Those are 
better in oxygen.



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Subject: Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0




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How do you enter additional arguments?

2009-10-18 Thread Rick DeShon
Hi All.

I'm missing something obvious here.  I'm  using moderncv to construct my CV.

One of the paragraph environments is \cventry

I need to have a cventry look like the following:
\cventry{date} {major} {University}{School} {City} {title}


When I use the paragraph environment in Lyx for an Entry I get the
following code:
\cventry{}


Only one argument is listed but I need six.  How do I get it
to enter the next argument?  I've tried '\{' with no luck, it just
buries the bracket inside the existing bracket.  How do I move out of
the first set of argument brackets and start the 2nd set of argument
brackets?  To be concrete...

How do I move from
\cventry{}

To
\cventry{date}{}


Thanks in advance,

Rick


How do you enter additional arguments?

2009-10-18 Thread Rick DeShon
Hi All.

I'm missing something obvious here.  I'm  using moderncv to construct my CV.

One of the paragraph environments is \cventry

I need to have a cventry look like the following:
\cventry{date} {major} {University}{School} {City} {title}


When I use the paragraph environment in Lyx for an Entry I get the
following code:
\cventry{}


Only one argument is listed but I need six.  How do I get it
to enter the next argument?  I've tried '\{' with no luck, it just
buries the bracket inside the existing bracket.  How do I move out of
the first set of argument brackets and start the 2nd set of argument
brackets?  To be concrete...

How do I move from
\cventry{}

To
\cventry{date}{}


Thanks in advance,

Rick


How do you enter additional arguments?

2009-10-18 Thread Rick DeShon
Hi All.

I'm missing something obvious here.  I'm  using moderncv to construct my CV.

One of the paragraph environments is \cventry

I need to have a cventry look like the following:
\cventry{date} {major} {University}{School} {City} {title}


When I use the paragraph environment in Lyx for an "Entry" I get the
following code:
\cventry{}


Only one argument is listed but I need six.  How do I get it
to enter the next argument?  I've tried '\{' with no luck, it just
buries the bracket inside the existing bracket.  How do I move out of
the first set of argument brackets and start the 2nd set of argument
brackets?  To be concrete...

How do I move from
\cventry{}

To
\cventry{date}{}


Thanks in advance,

Rick


Numbering References and Appendices in article class

2004-04-14 Thread Jochen F. Rick
I'm using the article class and bibtex generated references. My sections 
are numbered, but the references section is not numbered. Is there a way 
to get it numbered?

Also, is there a more elegant way to do appendices in lyx other than 
using ERT (\appendix)?

I tried looking for this on-line or through the help guides and came up 
empty.

Peace and Luck!

Je77

-- 
Jochen Je77 Rick   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PhD Student   http://www.je77.com/
Georgia Tech College of Computing   work: 404-385-1105


Numbering References and Appendices in article class

2004-04-14 Thread Jochen F. Rick
I'm using the article class and bibtex generated references. My sections 
are numbered, but the references section is not numbered. Is there a way 
to get it numbered?

Also, is there a more elegant way to do appendices in lyx other than 
using ERT (\appendix)?

I tried looking for this on-line or through the help guides and came up 
empty.

Peace and Luck!

Je77

-- 
Jochen Je77 Rick   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PhD Student   http://www.je77.com/
Georgia Tech College of Computing   work: 404-385-1105


Numbering References and Appendices in article class

2004-04-14 Thread Jochen F. Rick
I'm using the article class and bibtex generated references. My sections 
are numbered, but the references section is not numbered. Is there a way 
to get it numbered?

Also, is there a more elegant way to do appendices in lyx other than 
using ERT (\appendix)?

I tried looking for this on-line or through the help guides and came up 
empty.

Peace and Luck!

Je77

-- 
Jochen "Je77" Rick   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PhD Student   http://www.je77.com/
Georgia Tech College of Computing   work: 404-385-1105


Re: redlined documents

2004-02-13 Thread Rick Angell
 See message 
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/14643
 in the archives

 Is it planned to include (inbuilt) that feature in future versions of LyX?
 
 Paul
 
 
Here's the link to the developers' site note on this.  It appears to be in 
1.40 in cvs, already.

 http://www.devel.lyx.org/changetracking.php3

Rick



Re: redlined documents

2004-02-13 Thread Rick Angell
 See message 
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/14643
 in the archives

 Is it planned to include (inbuilt) that feature in future versions of LyX?
 
 Paul
 
 
Here's the link to the developers' site note on this.  It appears to be in 
1.40 in cvs, already.

 http://www.devel.lyx.org/changetracking.php3

Rick



Re: redlined documents

2004-02-13 Thread Rick Angell
> See message 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/14643
> in the archives

> Is it planned to include (inbuilt) that feature in future versions of LyX?
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
Here's the link to the developers' site note on this.  It appears to be in 
1.40 in cvs, already.

 http://www.devel.lyx.org/changetracking.php3

Rick



redlined documents

2004-02-12 Thread rick
Is it possible to produce red/black lined versions of lyx documents?  I would 
like to be able to show what's changed lawyer for the people I'm negotiating 
with.

Thanks,

Rick



Re: redlined documents

2004-02-12 Thread Rick Angell
Please forgive me if the first version of this was incomprehensible.

I would like to be able to produce successive versions of a lyx document (a 
lease) which show changes.  This is so that the lawyer for the people I am 
negotiating with is not forced to check 40 pages of rather leaden prose to be 
sure that nothing was changed which was not advertised as changed.  Is it 
possible to do this?  If so, how.  Thanks, as usual, for your help and your 
patience with the garbled first request.

Rick



redlined documents

2004-02-12 Thread rick
Is it possible to produce red/black lined versions of lyx documents?  I would 
like to be able to show what's changed lawyer for the people I'm negotiating 
with.

Thanks,

Rick



Re: redlined documents

2004-02-12 Thread Rick Angell
Please forgive me if the first version of this was incomprehensible.

I would like to be able to produce successive versions of a lyx document (a 
lease) which show changes.  This is so that the lawyer for the people I am 
negotiating with is not forced to check 40 pages of rather leaden prose to be 
sure that nothing was changed which was not advertised as changed.  Is it 
possible to do this?  If so, how.  Thanks, as usual, for your help and your 
patience with the garbled first request.

Rick



redlined documents

2004-02-12 Thread rick
Is it possible to produce red/black lined versions of lyx documents?  I would 
like to be able to show what's changed lawyer for the people I'm negotiating 
with.

Thanks,

Rick



Re: redlined documents

2004-02-12 Thread Rick Angell
Please forgive me if the first version of this was incomprehensible.

I would like to be able to produce successive versions of a lyx document (a 
lease) which show changes.  This is so that the lawyer for the people I am 
negotiating with is not forced to check 40 pages of rather leaden prose to be 
sure that nothing was changed which was not advertised as changed.  Is it 
possible to do this?  If so, how.  Thanks, as usual, for your help and your 
patience with the garbled first request.

Rick



Re: citation errors

2003-12-04 Thread Jochen F. Rick
OK. I did some more investigation and it must be a problem with the latex 
or tetex version on the machine I'm on. Others have gotten it to work. I 
took your advice and looked at the .cls file. I deleted everything in 
there with cite in it and that did the trick. It now works.

Thanks,

Je77


highlighting and deleting batches of spam

2003-12-04 Thread rick
I use a filter to put what's likely to be spam in a folder and then prune out 
what's real mail and delete the rest.  The problem is that every message needs 
to be opened and then deleted, which doesn't work because so much spam takes 
forever to open due to url lookups  etc.,  or highlighted with shift enter
 and then deleted.  That saves opening the individual mails, but still 
requires a clickitalic per/italic message.  I get lots (lots!) of spam.  
Often I'll need to delete 100 messages in a row.  Is there a way to highlight 
a message and then select all subsequent messages up to a specific message?  
That way you could eyeball a list and delete message 1 through 65 with less 
than a handful of clicks, rather than the 65+ I'm going through.


If not, what would be the best way to add a menu item that lets you select 
message 1 - 65, e.g., for deletion.


Thanks,


Rick 



Re: citation errors

2003-12-04 Thread Jochen F. Rick
OK. I did some more investigation and it must be a problem with the latex 
or tetex version on the machine I'm on. Others have gotten it to work. I 
took your advice and looked at the .cls file. I deleted everything in 
there with cite in it and that did the trick. It now works.

Thanks,

Je77


highlighting and deleting batches of spam

2003-12-04 Thread rick
I use a filter to put what's likely to be spam in a folder and then prune out 
what's real mail and delete the rest.  The problem is that every message needs 
to be opened and then deleted, which doesn't work because so much spam takes 
forever to open due to url lookups  etc.,  or highlighted with shift enter
 and then deleted.  That saves opening the individual mails, but still 
requires a clickitalic per/italic message.  I get lots (lots!) of spam.  
Often I'll need to delete 100 messages in a row.  Is there a way to highlight 
a message and then select all subsequent messages up to a specific message?  
That way you could eyeball a list and delete message 1 through 65 with less 
than a handful of clicks, rather than the 65+ I'm going through.


If not, what would be the best way to add a menu item that lets you select 
message 1 - 65, e.g., for deletion.


Thanks,


Rick 



Re: citation errors

2003-12-04 Thread Jochen F. Rick
OK. I did some more investigation and it must be a problem with the latex 
or tetex version on the machine I'm on. Others have gotten it to work. I 
took your advice and looked at the .cls file. I deleted everything in 
there with cite in it and that did the trick. It now works.

Thanks,

Je77


highlighting and deleting batches of spam

2003-12-04 Thread rick
I use a filter to put what's likely to be spam in a folder and then prune out 
what's real mail and delete the rest.  The problem is that every message needs 
to be opened and then deleted, which doesn't work because so much spam takes 
forever to open due to url lookups & etc.,  or highlighted with  
 and then deleted.  That saves opening the individual mails, but still 
requires a click per message.  I get lots (lots!) of spam.  
Often I'll need to delete 100 messages in a row.  Is there a way to highlight 
a message and then select all subsequent messages up to a specific message?  
That way you could eyeball a list and delete message 1 through 65 with less 
than a handful of clicks, rather than the 65+ I'm going through.


If not, what would be the best way to add a menu item that lets you select 
message 1 - 65, e.g., for deletion.


Thanks,


Rick 



Re: citation errors

2003-12-03 Thread Jochen F. Rick
Thanks. I'm attaching a tar.gz file with these contents:

notWorking/notWorking.lyx (the LyX file)
notWorking/lst.bib (the BIB file you need for the LyX file)
notWorking/acm_proc_article-sp.cls (the CLS file for ACM)
notWorking/acm_proc_article-sp.layout (a minimal LAYOUT file I created)

Peace and Luck!

Je77

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:13:51PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote:
 Jochen F. Rick wrote:
 
  What does it mean? The second and the third line are my
  document in TeX. It seems that it doesn't understand \cite{}?
  How can I fix this?
 
 Send a minimal example to the list.
 
 Matej
 
 -- 
 Matej Cepl,
 GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 


notWorking.tar.gz
Description: application/tar-gz


Re: citation errors

2003-12-03 Thread Jochen F. Rick
Thanks. I'm attaching a tar.gz file with these contents:

notWorking/notWorking.lyx (the LyX file)
notWorking/lst.bib (the BIB file you need for the LyX file)
notWorking/acm_proc_article-sp.cls (the CLS file for ACM)
notWorking/acm_proc_article-sp.layout (a minimal LAYOUT file I created)

Peace and Luck!

Je77

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:13:51PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote:
 Jochen F. Rick wrote:
 
  What does it mean? The second and the third line are my
  document in TeX. It seems that it doesn't understand \cite{}?
  How can I fix this?
 
 Send a minimal example to the list.
 
 Matej
 
 -- 
 Matej Cepl,
 GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 


notWorking.tar.gz
Description: application/tar-gz


Re: citation errors

2003-12-03 Thread Jochen F. Rick
Thanks. I'm attaching a tar.gz file with these contents:

notWorking/notWorking.lyx (the LyX file)
notWorking/lst.bib (the BIB file you need for the LyX file)
notWorking/acm_proc_article-sp.cls (the CLS file for ACM)
notWorking/acm_proc_article-sp.layout (a minimal LAYOUT file I created)

Peace and Luck!

Je77

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:13:51PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Jochen F. Rick wrote:
> 
> > What does it mean? The second and the third line are my
> > document in TeX. It seems that it doesn't understand \cite{}?
> > How can I fix this?
> 
> Send a minimal example to the list.
> 
> Matej
> 
> -- 
> Matej Cepl,
> GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
> 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
> 


notWorking.tar.gz
Description: application/tar-gz


citation errors

2003-12-01 Thread Jochen F. Rick
Hi,

I've been trying to convert one of my documents over to the ACM 
proceedings format (acm_proc_article-sp.cls). I successfully created a 
acm_proc_article-sp.layout file with minimal content:

--
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[acm_proc_article-sp]{article (ACM)}
 
Input article.layout
 
Columns 2
 
Preamble
\newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}
EndPreamble
--

Then, I use LyX to indicate that the document is of type article (ACM) 
and change the citation format to follow acm format. When, I try to view 
the postscript, I get errors for every citation that I just don't understand:

--
Use of [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't match its definition.
 ... sometimes the medium is not enough \cite{
  josephNacuConvergence}.
If you say, e.g., `\def\a1{...}', then you must always
put `1' after `\a', since control sequence names are
made up of letters only. The macro here has not been
followed by the required stuff, so I'm ignoring it.
--

What does it mean? The second and the third line are my document in TeX. 
It seems that it doesn't understand \cite{}? How can I fix this?

Peace and Luck!

Je77


citation errors

2003-12-01 Thread Jochen F. Rick
Hi,

I've been trying to convert one of my documents over to the ACM 
proceedings format (acm_proc_article-sp.cls). I successfully created a 
acm_proc_article-sp.layout file with minimal content:

--
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[acm_proc_article-sp]{article (ACM)}
 
Input article.layout
 
Columns 2
 
Preamble
\newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}
EndPreamble
--

Then, I use LyX to indicate that the document is of type article (ACM) 
and change the citation format to follow acm format. When, I try to view 
the postscript, I get errors for every citation that I just don't understand:

--
Use of [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't match its definition.
 ... sometimes the medium is not enough \cite{
  josephNacuConvergence}.
If you say, e.g., `\def\a1{...}', then you must always
put `1' after `\a', since control sequence names are
made up of letters only. The macro here has not been
followed by the required stuff, so I'm ignoring it.
--

What does it mean? The second and the third line are my document in TeX. 
It seems that it doesn't understand \cite{}? How can I fix this?

Peace and Luck!

Je77


citation errors

2003-12-01 Thread Jochen F. Rick
Hi,

I've been trying to convert one of my documents over to the ACM 
proceedings format (acm_proc_article-sp.cls). I successfully created a 
acm_proc_article-sp.layout file with minimal content:

--
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[acm_proc_article-sp]{article (ACM)}
 
Input article.layout
 
Columns 2
 
Preamble
\newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}
EndPreamble
--

Then, I use LyX to indicate that the document is of type "article (ACM)" 
and change the citation format to follow acm format. When, I try to view 
the postscript, I get errors for every citation that I just don't understand:

--
Use of [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't match its definition.
 ... sometimes the medium is not enough \cite{
  josephNacuConvergence}.
If you say, e.g., `\def\a1{...}', then you must always
put `1' after `\a', since control sequence names are
made up of letters only. The macro here has not been
followed by the required stuff, so I'm ignoring it.
--

What does it mean? The second and the third line are my document in TeX. 
It seems that it doesn't understand \cite{}? How can I fix this?

Peace and Luck!

Je77


Re: Password-protected PDF files

2003-11-10 Thread Rick Bilonick
Why not use ps2pdf with the password option?

Rick B.

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All

Maybe, this is a extravagant query: is it possible to use LyX to produce
password-protected PDF files?
Thank you a lot in advance!

Paul

 





Re: Password-protected PDF files

2003-11-10 Thread Rick Bilonick
Why not use ps2pdf with the password option?

Rick B.

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All

Maybe, this is a extravagant query: is it possible to use LyX to produce
password-protected PDF files?
Thank you a lot in advance!

Paul

 





Re: Password-protected PDF files

2003-11-10 Thread Rick Bilonick
Why not use ps2pdf with the password option?

Rick B.

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All

Maybe, this is a extravagant query: is it possible to use LyX to produce
password-protected PDF files?
Thank you a lot in advance!

Paul

 





Re: can lyx print with CUPS?

2002-12-15 Thread Rick Angell

Sure.  Edit - Preferences - Outputs.  Then set your spool command to lp.cups 
or whatever you have linked to that command (probably lp, if anything).  If 
you have more than one printer configured you may need to change the to 
printer from -P to whatever destination you need to use.

If you're using CUPS you may want to install gimp-print, too.  It has lots 
(lots!) of drivers.




 I'm very new to Lyx (and Debian!), so I hope this question is not too basic 
 for this list.
 
 I installed Debian and am able to print from Kword using CUPS.  I'd like to 
 use Lyx for longer documents, though.  Does Lyx work with CUPS?  The printer 
 tutorial in the customization help file talks about setting up the 
 /etc/printcap file, but does not mention CUPS.  I tried googling for help 
 on this, but have not found anything.  
 
 Can anyone help, or point me to a document that might get me started?
 
 Thanks,
 Peter Christensen





Re: can lyx print with CUPS?

2002-12-15 Thread Rick Angell

Sure.  Edit - Preferences - Outputs.  Then set your spool command to lp.cups 
or whatever you have linked to that command (probably lp, if anything).  If 
you have more than one printer configured you may need to change the to 
printer from -P to whatever destination you need to use.

If you're using CUPS you may want to install gimp-print, too.  It has lots 
(lots!) of drivers.




 I'm very new to Lyx (and Debian!), so I hope this question is not too basic 
 for this list.
 
 I installed Debian and am able to print from Kword using CUPS.  I'd like to 
 use Lyx for longer documents, though.  Does Lyx work with CUPS?  The printer 
 tutorial in the customization help file talks about setting up the 
 /etc/printcap file, but does not mention CUPS.  I tried googling for help 
 on this, but have not found anything.  
 
 Can anyone help, or point me to a document that might get me started?
 
 Thanks,
 Peter Christensen





Re: can lyx print with CUPS?

2002-12-15 Thread Rick Angell

Sure.  Edit -> Preferences -> Outputs.  Then set your spool command to lp.cups 
or whatever you have linked to that command (probably lp, if anything).  If 
you have more than one printer configured you may need to change the to 
printer from -P to whatever destination you need to use.

If you're using CUPS you may want to install gimp-print, too.  It has lots 
(lots!) of drivers.




> I'm very new to Lyx (and Debian!), so I hope this question is not too basic 
> for this list.
> 
> I installed Debian and am able to print from Kword using CUPS.  I'd like to 
> use Lyx for longer documents, though.  Does Lyx work with CUPS?  The printer 
> tutorial in the customization help file talks about setting up the 
> /etc/printcap file, but does not mention CUPS.  I tried "googling" for help 
> on this, but have not found anything.  
> 
> Can anyone help, or point me to a document that might get me started?
> 
> Thanks,
> Peter Christensen





Bounding box problem and Figures UI comments

2002-05-23 Thread Rick L Vinyard Jr

Lyx version: 1.2.0-pre5

Firstly, I have noticed a problem with figures imported from a 1.1.6 file.
The displayed bounding box is much larger than the actual figure size.

I have even noticed this when opening the User Guide (particularly the
section on figures).

I'm not sure whether this is an issue that is already known, or a
non-issue entirely, but I didn't see a bug report regarding this.

Second, a few comments (hopefully constructive) on usability. I have only
been using 1.2.0-pre5 for a *very* short period of time, but there are
already a few items I miss from the 1.1.6 UI.

One of the first items I noticed missing on the figure option box was the
set of radio buttons for custom width metrics. In particular, the ones I
miss most are %col and %page. It would be nice if there were three radio
options with %col, %page and other, where other consists of the current 
drop down list.

Another item that I noticed are the separation of the LyX view and LaTeX
size. This is a great idea, but it would be nice to have an option that
locked the display options together by default, and allowed the user to vary
them independently if desired.

I know there are the Get LyX Size and Get LaTeX Size buttons, but I
think it just adds an extra click for the common case (at least what I
percive as the common case for my usage).

Finally, the LyX view lack of support for determining %text, %col and
%page size from the LaTeX size is somewhat frustrating. But, I'm not sure
how much work would be required to support these options.

Although these are my own personal preferences, and of course you never
want to customize a UI to a single user, perhaps they could serve as the
starting point for determining a reasonable set of default preferences
(at least for figures) based on the combined input of users.


-- 

Rick L. Vinyard, Jr.
http://miskatonic.cs.nmsu.edu/





Bounding box problem and Figures UI comments

2002-05-23 Thread Rick L Vinyard Jr

Lyx version: 1.2.0-pre5

Firstly, I have noticed a problem with figures imported from a 1.1.6 file.
The displayed bounding box is much larger than the actual figure size.

I have even noticed this when opening the User Guide (particularly the
section on figures).

I'm not sure whether this is an issue that is already known, or a
non-issue entirely, but I didn't see a bug report regarding this.

Second, a few comments (hopefully constructive) on usability. I have only
been using 1.2.0-pre5 for a *very* short period of time, but there are
already a few items I miss from the 1.1.6 UI.

One of the first items I noticed missing on the figure option box was the
set of radio buttons for custom width metrics. In particular, the ones I
miss most are %col and %page. It would be nice if there were three radio
options with %col, %page and other, where other consists of the current 
drop down list.

Another item that I noticed are the separation of the LyX view and LaTeX
size. This is a great idea, but it would be nice to have an option that
locked the display options together by default, and allowed the user to vary
them independently if desired.

I know there are the Get LyX Size and Get LaTeX Size buttons, but I
think it just adds an extra click for the common case (at least what I
percive as the common case for my usage).

Finally, the LyX view lack of support for determining %text, %col and
%page size from the LaTeX size is somewhat frustrating. But, I'm not sure
how much work would be required to support these options.

Although these are my own personal preferences, and of course you never
want to customize a UI to a single user, perhaps they could serve as the
starting point for determining a reasonable set of default preferences
(at least for figures) based on the combined input of users.


-- 

Rick L. Vinyard, Jr.
http://miskatonic.cs.nmsu.edu/





Bounding box problem and Figures UI comments

2002-05-23 Thread Rick L Vinyard Jr

Lyx version: 1.2.0-pre5

Firstly, I have noticed a problem with figures imported from a 1.1.6 file.
The displayed bounding box is much larger than the actual figure size.

I have even noticed this when opening the User Guide (particularly the
section on figures).

I'm not sure whether this is an issue that is already known, or a
non-issue entirely, but I didn't see a bug report regarding this.

Second, a few comments (hopefully constructive) on usability. I have only
been using 1.2.0-pre5 for a *very* short period of time, but there are
already a few items I miss from the 1.1.6 UI.

One of the first items I noticed missing on the figure option box was the
set of radio buttons for custom width metrics. In particular, the ones I
miss most are %col and %page. It would be nice if there were three radio
options with %col, %page and other, where other consists of the current 
drop down list.

Another item that I noticed are the separation of the LyX view and LaTeX
size. This is a great idea, but it would be nice to have an option that
locked the display options together by default, and allowed the user to vary
them independently if desired.

I know there are the "Get LyX Size" and "Get LaTeX Size" buttons, but I
think it just adds an extra click for the common case (at least what I
percive as the common case for my usage).

Finally, the LyX view lack of support for determining %text, %col and
%page size from the LaTeX size is somewhat frustrating. But, I'm not sure
how much work would be required to support these options.

Although these are my own personal preferences, and of course you never
want to customize a UI to a single user, perhaps they could serve as the
starting point for determining a reasonable set of default preferences
(at least for figures) based on the combined input of users.


-- 

Rick L. Vinyard, Jr.
http://miskatonic.cs.nmsu.edu/





Re: Displaying Math Equations in lyx

2001-09-07 Thread Rick Angell

On 7 September 2001 at 16:20, Matthew L. Fidler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
' I'm trying to display greek math equations under Mandrake 8, and instead of
 
' displaying the greek characters, said characters disappear, and I get nothi
ng 
' until output.  
' 
' I suppose that I can still deal with this issue, since the output is fine, 
' but having to look at the output to see the actual alpha or beta characters
 
' is very cumbersome.  I was wondering if it was a font issue, or something 
' else that I could fix.
' 
' Matt.
' [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi:

On my, Red Hat, distro the solution was to change the LyX preferences so that scaled 
fonts were not used.  If that doesn't work, try the archive for this list, where there 
were some Mandrake specific threads about this issue recently.

Regards,

Rick



Re: Displaying Math Equations in lyx

2001-09-07 Thread Rick Angell

On 7 September 2001 at 16:20, Matthew L. Fidler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
' I'm trying to display greek math equations under Mandrake 8, and instead of
 
' displaying the greek characters, said characters disappear, and I get nothi
ng 
' until output.  
' 
' I suppose that I can still deal with this issue, since the output is fine, 
' but having to look at the output to see the actual alpha or beta characters
 
' is very cumbersome.  I was wondering if it was a font issue, or something 
' else that I could fix.
' 
' Matt.
' [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi:

On my, Red Hat, distro the solution was to change the LyX preferences so that scaled 
fonts were not used.  If that doesn't work, try the archive for this list, where there 
were some Mandrake specific threads about this issue recently.

Regards,

Rick



Re: Displaying Math Equations in lyx

2001-09-07 Thread Rick Angell

On 7 September 2001 at 16:20, "Matthew L. Fidler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
'> "I'm trying to display greek math equations under Mandrake 8, and instead of
 
'> "displaying the greek characters, said characters disappear, and I get nothi
ng 
'> "until output.  
'> "
'> "I suppose that I can still deal with this issue, since the output is fine, 
'> "but having to look at the output to see the actual alpha or beta characters
 
'> "is very cumbersome.  I was wondering if it was a font issue, or something 
'> "else that I could fix.
'> "
'> "Matt.
'> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi:

On my, Red Hat, distro the solution was to change the LyX preferences so that scaled 
fonts were not used.  If that doesn't work, try the archive for this list, where there 
were some Mandrake specific threads about this issue recently.

Regards,

Rick



Re: Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread rick

 
 Hi all,
 
 Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
 with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
 can't seem to remeber where.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 -- 
 
 Seeya,
 Paul 

We are a lyx positive company, or at least a lyx positive beachhead in a company.  Try 
looking here:  http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/%7evoss/lyx/titlepage/background.html

Rick

-- 
--
Rick Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mission Critical Linux  Tel.  (978) 446-9166
100 Foot of John Street Fax.  (978) 446-9470
Lowell, MA 01852





Re: Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread rick

 
 Hi all,
 
 Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
 with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
 can't seem to remeber where.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 -- 
 
 Seeya,
 Paul 

We are a lyx positive company, or at least a lyx positive beachhead in a company.  Try 
looking here:  http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/%7evoss/lyx/titlepage/background.html

Rick

-- 
--
Rick Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mission Critical Linux  Tel.  (978) 446-9166
100 Foot of John Street Fax.  (978) 446-9470
Lowell, MA 01852





Re: Letterhead?

2001-09-06 Thread rick

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Can someone provide a pointer to me as to how I can create letterhead 
> with a logo on it?  I know I seen this documented somewhere, I just 
> can't seem to remeber where.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Seeya,
> Paul 

We are a lyx positive company, or at least a lyx positive beachhead in a company.  Try 
looking here:  http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/%7evoss/lyx/titlepage/background.html

Rick

-- 
--
Rick Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mission Critical Linux  Tel.  (978) 446-9166
100 Foot of John Street Fax.  (978) 446-9470
Lowell, MA 01852





How to insert a file into a table?

2001-08-26 Thread Rick Bilonick

I used to be able to insert a text file into a table. But I can't do it
user 1.1.6fix1. I used to just insert the cursor in the upper left most
cell and do a file insert (as lines). When I try this, the text ends up
outside the table. Worse, there are large blank spaces between the lines
of text. I would like to put the data in a table or at least remove the
blank lines from the text. Any ideas on how to do this?

Rick Bilonick




How to insert a file into a table?

2001-08-26 Thread Rick Bilonick

I used to be able to insert a text file into a table. But I can't do it
user 1.1.6fix1. I used to just insert the cursor in the upper left most
cell and do a file insert (as lines). When I try this, the text ends up
outside the table. Worse, there are large blank spaces between the lines
of text. I would like to put the data in a table or at least remove the
blank lines from the text. Any ideas on how to do this?

Rick Bilonick




How to insert a file into a table?

2001-08-26 Thread Rick Bilonick

I used to be able to insert a text file into a table. But I can't do it
user 1.1.6fix1. I used to just insert the cursor in the upper left most
cell and do a file insert (as lines). When I try this, the text ends up
outside the table. Worse, there are large blank spaces between the lines
of text. I would like to put the data in a table or at least remove the
blank lines from the text. Any ideas on how to do this?

Rick Bilonick




Re: Problems with forms.h (again)

2001-08-20 Thread Jochen F. Rick

Hi!

Thanks for the help. It turns out I don't have the kernel headers 
installed. For the time being, I'm giving up. Compiling the program 
without root access is just too difficult. I've asked my sysadmin to 
install it.

Peace and Luck!

Je77

On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:25:15AM +0300, Tuukka Toivonen wrote:
 On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jochen F. Rick wrote:
 
  --with-extra-inf= flags. The first problem goes away, but the second one 
  remains. I check the directory and sure enough there is a forms.h file 
 
 Use --with-extra-inc= instead. If that doesn't help, try setting the
 following environment variable:
   export C_INCLUDE_PATH=/home/nadja/include
 or whatever the path is. (see man gcc for explanation of the environment
 variable).
   If you're using tcsh instead of bash, it's something like
   setenv C_INCLUDE_PATH /home/nadja/include
 
 I think that configure doesn't complain but fails silently if you mispell
 an argument.
 



Re: Problems with forms.h (again)

2001-08-20 Thread Jochen F. Rick

Hi!

Thanks for the help. It turns out I don't have the kernel headers 
installed. For the time being, I'm giving up. Compiling the program 
without root access is just too difficult. I've asked my sysadmin to 
install it.

Peace and Luck!

Je77

On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:25:15AM +0300, Tuukka Toivonen wrote:
 On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jochen F. Rick wrote:
 
  --with-extra-inf= flags. The first problem goes away, but the second one 
  remains. I check the directory and sure enough there is a forms.h file 
 
 Use --with-extra-inc= instead. If that doesn't help, try setting the
 following environment variable:
   export C_INCLUDE_PATH=/home/nadja/include
 or whatever the path is. (see man gcc for explanation of the environment
 variable).
   If you're using tcsh instead of bash, it's something like
   setenv C_INCLUDE_PATH /home/nadja/include
 
 I think that configure doesn't complain but fails silently if you mispell
 an argument.
 



Re: Problems with forms.h (again)

2001-08-20 Thread Jochen F. Rick

Hi!

Thanks for the help. It turns out I don't have the kernel headers 
installed. For the time being, I'm giving up. Compiling the program 
without root access is just too difficult. I've asked my sysadmin to 
install it.

Peace and Luck!

Je77

On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:25:15AM +0300, Tuukka Toivonen wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Jochen F. Rick wrote:
> 
> > --with-extra-inf= flags. The first problem goes away, but the second one 
> > remains. I check the directory and sure enough there is a "forms.h" file 
> 
> Use --with-extra-inc= instead. If that doesn't help, try setting the
> following environment variable:
>   export C_INCLUDE_PATH=/home/nadja/include
> or whatever the path is. (see man gcc for explanation of the environment
> variable).
>   If you're using tcsh instead of bash, it's something like
>   setenv C_INCLUDE_PATH /home/nadja/include
> 
> I think that configure doesn't complain but fails silently if you mispell
> an argument.
> 



Problems with forms.h (again)

2001-08-18 Thread Jochen F. Rick

Hi, LyX seems really cool; I want to start playing around with it badly, 
but can't seem to get it to work. I've searched the e-mail list and can't 
seem to find a good answer to my problem, so I'll try it here.

First, let me explain that I don't have root access to the RedHat6.2 
system that I'm trying to install it on, so I want to install it 
(lyx-1.1.6fix3) in my home directory. At the end of running configure, I 
get this message:

 The following problems have been detected by configure. 
 Please check the messages below before running 'make'.
 (see the section 'Problems' in the INSTALL file)

** Cannot find libforms or libxforms. Please check that the xforms library
   is correctly installed on your system.

** Cannot find forms.h. Please check that the forms library
   is correctly installed on your system.

Reading the INSTALL file, I see that I need xforms. I download it from 
the site and decompress it. Now, I try to use --with-extra-lib= and 
--with-extra-inf= flags. The first problem goes away, but the second one 
remains. I check the directory and sure enough there is a forms.h file 
in there. Yet, configure cannot find it. I tried tricking it by using 
--with-extra-prefix= flag, but that didn't work. So, I'm at a loss.

Any help?

Peace and Luck!

Je77



Problems with forms.h (again)

2001-08-18 Thread Jochen F. Rick

Hi, LyX seems really cool; I want to start playing around with it badly, 
but can't seem to get it to work. I've searched the e-mail list and can't 
seem to find a good answer to my problem, so I'll try it here.

First, let me explain that I don't have root access to the RedHat6.2 
system that I'm trying to install it on, so I want to install it 
(lyx-1.1.6fix3) in my home directory. At the end of running configure, I 
get this message:

 The following problems have been detected by configure. 
 Please check the messages below before running 'make'.
 (see the section 'Problems' in the INSTALL file)

** Cannot find libforms or libxforms. Please check that the xforms library
   is correctly installed on your system.

** Cannot find forms.h. Please check that the forms library
   is correctly installed on your system.

Reading the INSTALL file, I see that I need xforms. I download it from 
the site and decompress it. Now, I try to use --with-extra-lib= and 
--with-extra-inf= flags. The first problem goes away, but the second one 
remains. I check the directory and sure enough there is a forms.h file 
in there. Yet, configure cannot find it. I tried tricking it by using 
--with-extra-prefix= flag, but that didn't work. So, I'm at a loss.

Any help?

Peace and Luck!

Je77



Problems with forms.h (again)

2001-08-18 Thread Jochen F. Rick

Hi, LyX seems really cool; I want to start playing around with it badly, 
but can't seem to get it to work. I've searched the e-mail list and can't 
seem to find a good answer to my problem, so I'll try it here.

First, let me explain that I don't have root access to the RedHat6.2 
system that I'm trying to install it on, so I want to install it 
(lyx-1.1.6fix3) in my home directory. At the end of running configure, I 
get this message:

 The following problems have been detected by configure. 
 Please check the messages below before running 'make'.
 (see the section 'Problems' in the INSTALL file)

** Cannot find libforms or libxforms. Please check that the xforms library
   is correctly installed on your system.

** Cannot find forms.h. Please check that the forms library
   is correctly installed on your system.

Reading the INSTALL file, I see that I need xforms. I download it from 
the site and decompress it. Now, I try to use --with-extra-lib= and 
--with-extra-inf= flags. The first problem goes away, but the second one 
remains. I check the directory and sure enough there is a "forms.h" file 
in there. Yet, configure cannot find it. I tried tricking it by using 
--with-extra-prefix= flag, but that didn't work. So, I'm at a loss.

Any help?

Peace and Luck!

Je77



Re: off-system printing

2000-11-28 Thread Rick Angell

 Hi!
 
 I just subscribed to this list and start out with a question that might be 
off-topic, but anyway.
 
 The thing is this, I just love lyx, it's something very needed in using linux (I 
just started using it, but so far so almost good) but I don't have a printer my self.
 
 Currently I'm using my mothers printer (she uses windows) my university printers 
(they use windows and MacOS) or my other schools printer (they to use windows). Now 
You might guess my problem. How do I create a pdf/ps-file that I can print in theese 
environments.

Use lyx' print menu to print your postscript to a file; get the file to the 
computer you choose to use;  use GSview to view and send postscript to your 
printer.  You can get Gsview here:  http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/get34.
html

If the printer accepts postscript, this should work.  It works for computer 
modern, I haven't tried it with other fonts.
 
 I think that the problem is whit my fonts not beeing compatible with the ones on the 
other systems, but I'm not sure. If this is the case maybe some-one on this list can 
help me out in configuring my system with windows-compatible-fonts (I really don't 
need to worry about the MacOS).
 
 Maybe I should get information on which printers they use, what do I know?
 
 Anyhow, please help me, or demand more info, or something
 
 regards,
 tomas

-- 
Rick Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mission Critical Linux  Tel.  (978) 446-9166
100 Foot of John Street Fax.  (978) 446-9470
Lowell, MA 01852





Re: off-system printing

2000-11-28 Thread Rick Angell

 Hi!
 
 I just subscribed to this list and start out with a question that might be 
off-topic, but anyway.
 
 The thing is this, I just love lyx, it's something very needed in using linux (I 
just started using it, but so far so almost good) but I don't have a printer my self.
 
 Currently I'm using my mothers printer (she uses windows) my university printers 
(they use windows and MacOS) or my other schools printer (they to use windows). Now 
You might guess my problem. How do I create a pdf/ps-file that I can print in theese 
environments.

Use lyx' print menu to print your postscript to a file; get the file to the 
computer you choose to use;  use GSview to view and send postscript to your 
printer.  You can get Gsview here:  http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/get34.
html

If the printer accepts postscript, this should work.  It works for computer 
modern, I haven't tried it with other fonts.
 
 I think that the problem is whit my fonts not beeing compatible with the ones on the 
other systems, but I'm not sure. If this is the case maybe some-one on this list can 
help me out in configuring my system with windows-compatible-fonts (I really don't 
need to worry about the MacOS).
 
 Maybe I should get information on which printers they use, what do I know?
 
 Anyhow, please help me, or demand more info, or something
 
 regards,
 tomas

-- 
Rick Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mission Critical Linux  Tel.  (978) 446-9166
100 Foot of John Street Fax.  (978) 446-9470
Lowell, MA 01852





Re: off-system printing

2000-11-28 Thread Rick Angell

> Hi!
> 
> I just subscribed to this list and start out with a question that might be 
>off-topic, but anyway.
> 
> The thing is this, I just love lyx, it's something very needed in using linux (I 
>just started using it, but so far so almost good) but I don't have a printer my self.
> 
> Currently I'm using my mothers printer (she uses windows) my university printers 
>(they use windows and MacOS) or my other schools printer (they to use windows). Now 
>You might guess my problem. How do I create a pdf/ps-file that I can print in theese 
>environments.

Use lyx' print menu to print your postscript to a file; get the file to the 
computer you choose to use;  use GSview to view and send postscript to your 
printer.  You can get Gsview here:  http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/get34.
html

If the printer accepts postscript, this should work.  It works for computer 
modern, I haven't tried it with other fonts.
> 
> I think that the problem is whit my fonts not beeing compatible with the ones on the 
>other systems, but I'm not sure. If this is the case maybe some-one on this list can 
>help me out in configuring my system with windows-compatible-fonts (I really don't 
>need to worry about the MacOS).
> 
> Maybe I should get information on which printers they use, what do I know?
> 
> Anyhow, please help me, or demand more info, or something
> 
> regards,
> tomas

-- 
Rick Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mission Critical Linux  Tel.  (978) 446-9166
100 Foot of John Street Fax.  (978) 446-9470
Lowell, MA 01852





problem with spellchecking german documents

2000-08-10 Thread Rick Janda

I tried to spellcheck a german document. The documentlanguage is set
to german and everything works fine, except spellchecking.

The spellchecker stop at every word which contain german umlauts
(ü,ä,ö,Ü,Ä,Ö) or a sharp s (ß). If I try "Insert in personal
dictionary" or "Insert in personal dictionary" I will get "Word
'Universitäten' contains illegal characters."

Can anybody help me with this problem?

Thank you, Rick




problem with spellchecking german documents

2000-08-10 Thread Rick Janda

I tried to spellcheck a german document. The documentlanguage is set
to german and everything works fine, except spellchecking.

The spellchecker stop at every word which contain german umlauts
(ü,ä,ö,Ü,Ä,Ö) or a sharp s (ß). If I try "Insert in personal
dictionary" or "Insert in personal dictionary" I will get "Word
'Universitäten' contains illegal characters."

Can anybody help me with this problem?

Thank you, Rick




problem with spellchecking german documents

2000-08-10 Thread Rick Janda

I tried to spellcheck a german document. The documentlanguage is set
to german and everything works fine, except spellchecking.

The spellchecker stop at every word which contain german umlauts
(ü,ä,ö,Ü,Ä,Ö) or a sharp s (ß). If I try "Insert in personal
dictionary" or "Insert in personal dictionary" I will get "Word
'Universitäten' contains illegal characters."

Can anybody help me with this problem?

Thank you, Rick




change ugly indextable?

2000-06-30 Thread Rick Janda


I write a documentation and want to insert an index.
But the indexlist looks a little bit strange:

maximierter Modus, 20 
Mehrfenstermodus, 17
MultiWindow Menü, 11

What need I change that it would look in a more usual manner like this?

maximierter Modus.. 20
Mehrfenstermodus... 17
MultiWindow Menü... 11

Thank you,
Rick Janda





change ugly indextable?

2000-06-30 Thread Rick Janda


I write a documentation and want to insert an index.
But the indexlist looks a little bit strange:

maximierter Modus, 20 
Mehrfenstermodus, 17
MultiWindow Menü, 11

What need I change that it would look in a more usual manner like this?

maximierter Modus.. 20
Mehrfenstermodus... 17
MultiWindow Menü... 11

Thank you,
Rick Janda





change ugly indextable?

2000-06-30 Thread Rick Janda


I write a documentation and want to insert an index.
But the indexlist looks a little bit strange:

maximierter Modus, 20 
Mehrfenstermodus, 17
MultiWindow Menü, 11

What need I change that it would look in a more usual manner like this?

maximierter Modus.. 20
Mehrfenstermodus... 17
MultiWindow Menü... 11

Thank you,
Rick Janda





Re: Problem with Meta-Key

2000-06-27 Thread Rick Janda

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:

 Rick Janda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 | On Keyboard with 104 or 105 Caps you can use the Windows-Key to
 | separate Meta from Alt. I know many people who use Alt for the whole
 | windowmanager stuff and private shortcuts and Meta for the "normal"
 | programs to do not get a conflict. On XFree86 configuration for
 | 104/105 keys PC-keyboards, Meta get mod 4 and Alt get mod 1.
 
 And in Emacs Meta-x will give "M-x" in the minibuffer?
yes, it does (since Version 19).
 
 LyX currently uses Mod-1.
 Other uses of modifiers must give a keysym lyx can react upon.
 
 If I understand how other programms handeled this I am sure we could
 find a solution.
 
 But it does not seem correct to look at keysym, imho we must look at
 modifier number. (I should be allowed to have my F1 key as mod-1 if I
 want that and F2 as mod-4, how to handle Alt/Meta then?)
Then you must bind Meta_L or Meta_R to the keycode auf F1 and Alt_L or
 Alt_R to the keycode of F2.

This is part of the xkeycaps manpage:

"The  remaining modifier bits (Mod1 through Mod5)
 have semantics which are  defined  by  the  keys
 with which they are associated.
...

 That  is,  the Control modifier means Control if
 it is attached to Control_L or Control_R, and is
 illegal elsewhere.

 But  Mod1 means Meta if it is attached to Meta_L
 or Meta_R; but it would  mean  Alt  if  it  were
 attached  to  Alt_L  or  Alt_R;  or  Hyper  with
 Hyper_L or Hyper_R; and so on.  (It  could  not,
 however,  be  attached  to  Control_L, since the
 Control modifier has already  spoken  for  those
 keysyms.) 
...
   A client needing to use an extra modifier,  for  exam­
   ple Meta,  should:

 Scan  the existing modifier mappings.  If it finds a
 modifier  that  contains  a  keycode  whose  set  of
 keysyms  includes  XK_Meta_L or XK_Meta_R, it should
 use that modifier bit.

 If there  is  no  existing  modifier  controlled  by
 XK_Meta_L  or  XK_Meta_R, it should select an unused
 modifier bit (one with  an  empty  controlling  set)
 and:

   If there is a keycode with XL_Meta_L in its set of
   keysyms, add that keycode to the set for the  cho­
   sen modifier, then

   if there is a keycode with XL_Meta_R in its set of
   keysyms, add that keycode to the set for the  cho­
   sen modifier, then

   if  the  controlling set is still empty,  interact
   with the user to select one or  more  keys  to  be
   Meta.

 If  there  are no unused modifier bits, ask the user
 to take corrective action.


"
If you need more explanation, please read the xkeycap manpage, it
explain the internals of keyboard settings very well, I think.
 
 Lgb


Rick Janda



Re: Problem with Meta-Key

2000-06-27 Thread Rick Janda

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:

 Rick Janda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 | On Keyboard with 104 or 105 Caps you can use the Windows-Key to
 | separate Meta from Alt. I know many people who use Alt for the whole
 | windowmanager stuff and private shortcuts and Meta for the "normal"
 | programs to do not get a conflict. On XFree86 configuration for
 | 104/105 keys PC-keyboards, Meta get mod 4 and Alt get mod 1.
 
 And in Emacs Meta-x will give "M-x" in the minibuffer?
yes, it does (since Version 19).
 
 LyX currently uses Mod-1.
 Other uses of modifiers must give a keysym lyx can react upon.
 
 If I understand how other programms handeled this I am sure we could
 find a solution.
 
 But it does not seem correct to look at keysym, imho we must look at
 modifier number. (I should be allowed to have my F1 key as mod-1 if I
 want that and F2 as mod-4, how to handle Alt/Meta then?)
Then you must bind Meta_L or Meta_R to the keycode auf F1 and Alt_L or
 Alt_R to the keycode of F2.

This is part of the xkeycaps manpage:

"The  remaining modifier bits (Mod1 through Mod5)
 have semantics which are  defined  by  the  keys
 with which they are associated.
...

 That  is,  the Control modifier means Control if
 it is attached to Control_L or Control_R, and is
 illegal elsewhere.

 But  Mod1 means Meta if it is attached to Meta_L
 or Meta_R; but it would  mean  Alt  if  it  were
 attached  to  Alt_L  or  Alt_R;  or  Hyper  with
 Hyper_L or Hyper_R; and so on.  (It  could  not,
 however,  be  attached  to  Control_L, since the
 Control modifier has already  spoken  for  those
 keysyms.) 
...
   A client needing to use an extra modifier,  for  exam­
   ple Meta,  should:

 Scan  the existing modifier mappings.  If it finds a
 modifier  that  contains  a  keycode  whose  set  of
 keysyms  includes  XK_Meta_L or XK_Meta_R, it should
 use that modifier bit.

 If there  is  no  existing  modifier  controlled  by
 XK_Meta_L  or  XK_Meta_R, it should select an unused
 modifier bit (one with  an  empty  controlling  set)
 and:

   If there is a keycode with XL_Meta_L in its set of
   keysyms, add that keycode to the set for the  cho­
   sen modifier, then

   if there is a keycode with XL_Meta_R in its set of
   keysyms, add that keycode to the set for the  cho­
   sen modifier, then

   if  the  controlling set is still empty,  interact
   with the user to select one or  more  keys  to  be
   Meta.

 If  there  are no unused modifier bits, ask the user
 to take corrective action.


"
If you need more explanation, please read the xkeycap manpage, it
explain the internals of keyboard settings very well, I think.
 
 Lgb


Rick Janda



Re: Problem with Meta-Key

2000-06-27 Thread Rick Janda

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:

> Rick Janda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> | On Keyboard with 104 or 105 Caps you can use the Windows-Key to
> | separate Meta from Alt. I know many people who use Alt for the whole
> | windowmanager stuff and private shortcuts and Meta for the "normal"
> | programs to do not get a conflict. On XFree86 configuration for
> | 104/105 keys PC-keyboards, Meta get mod 4 and Alt get mod 1.
> 
> And in Emacs Meta-x will give "M-x" in the minibuffer?
yes, it does (since Version 19).
> 
> LyX currently uses Mod-1.
> Other uses of modifiers must give a keysym lyx can react upon.
> 
> If I understand how other programms handeled this I am sure we could
> find a solution.
> 
> But it does not seem correct to look at keysym, imho we must look at
> modifier number. (I should be allowed to have my F1 key as mod-1 if I
> want that and F2 as mod-4, how to handle Alt/Meta then?)
Then you must bind Meta_L or Meta_R to the keycode auf F1 and Alt_L or
 Alt_R to the keycode of F2.

This is part of the xkeycaps manpage:

"The  remaining modifier bits (Mod1 through Mod5)
 have semantics which are  defined  by  the  keys
 with which they are associated.
...

 That  is,  the Control modifier means Control if
 it is attached to Control_L or Control_R, and is
 illegal elsewhere.

 But  Mod1 means Meta if it is attached to Meta_L
 or Meta_R; but it would  mean  Alt  if  it  were
 attached  to  Alt_L  or  Alt_R;  or  Hyper  with
 Hyper_L or Hyper_R; and so on.  (It  could  not,
 however,  be  attached  to  Control_L, since the
 Control modifier has already  spoken  for  those
 keysyms.) 
...
   A client needing to use an extra modifier,  for  exam­
   ple Meta,  should:

 Scan  the existing modifier mappings.  If it finds a
 modifier  that  contains  a  keycode  whose  set  of
 keysyms  includes  XK_Meta_L or XK_Meta_R, it should
 use that modifier bit.

 If there  is  no  existing  modifier  controlled  by
 XK_Meta_L  or  XK_Meta_R, it should select an unused
 modifier bit (one with  an  empty  controlling  set)
 and:

   If there is a keycode with XL_Meta_L in its set of
   keysyms, add that keycode to the set for the  cho­
   sen modifier, then

   if there is a keycode with XL_Meta_R in its set of
   keysyms, add that keycode to the set for the  cho­
   sen modifier, then

   if  the  controlling set is still empty,  interact
   with the user to select one or  more  keys  to  be
   Meta.

 If  there  are no unused modifier bits, ask the user
 to take corrective action.


"
If you need more explanation, please read the xkeycap manpage, it
explain the internals of keyboard settings very well, I think.
> 
> Lgb


Rick Janda



Re: Problem with Meta-Key

2000-06-26 Thread Rick Janda

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  "Rick" == Rick Janda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 ...
 
 Indeed. I think most X applications do that (am I wrong?). For
 example, I do not have a 'meta' key on my keyboard, but keys noted
 'alt', so it is reasonable that LyX uses them.

Normally, a X application use the key which has KeySym Meta_L or
Meta_R as Meta and the key, which has KeySym Alt_L or Alt_R as Alt,
independent of the uses modifier bit. Lots of people map Alt to Meta
in there XF86Config, because Meta is Shift-Alt by default and many
programs use Meta not Alt as modifier, therefore Meta get mod1 there.

On Keyboard with 104 or 105 Caps you can use the Windows-Key to
separate Meta from Alt. I know many people who use Alt for the whole
windowmanager stuff and private shortcuts and Meta for the "normal"
programs to do not get a conflict. On XFree86 configuration for
104/105 keys PC-keyboards, Meta get mod 4 and Alt get mod 1.

 
 I think we could accept a patch doing that, but I will not have time
 to do it myself.  
I don't know anything about c at the moment. :-(
If anybody taught me programming c, I would do it ;-)

 
 JMarc



Re: Problem with Meta-Key

2000-06-26 Thread Rick Janda

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >>>>> "Rick" == Rick Janda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> ...
> 
> Indeed. I think most X applications do that (am I wrong?). For
> example, I do not have a 'meta' key on my keyboard, but keys noted
> 'alt', so it is reasonable that LyX uses them.

Normally, a X application use the key which has KeySym Meta_L or
Meta_R as Meta and the key, which has KeySym Alt_L or Alt_R as Alt,
independent of the uses modifier bit. Lots of people map Alt to Meta
in there XF86Config, because Meta is Shift-Alt by default and many
programs use Meta not Alt as modifier, therefore Meta get mod1 there.

On Keyboard with 104 or 105 Caps you can use the Windows-Key to
separate Meta from Alt. I know many people who use Alt for the whole
windowmanager stuff and private shortcuts and Meta for the "normal"
programs to do not get a conflict. On XFree86 configuration for
104/105 keys PC-keyboards, Meta get mod 4 and Alt get mod 1.

> 
> I think we could accept a patch doing that, but I will not have time
> to do it myself.  
I don't know anything about c at the moment. :-(
If anybody taught me programming c, I would do it ;-)

> 
> JMarc



test

2000-06-23 Thread Rick Janda

Can't find my message in the list, therefore a test...



Problem with Meta-Key

2000-06-23 Thread Rick Janda

Hallo,

I use Lyx 1.1.4.
It seem, that lyx always use the key with modifier bit 1 as Meta,
 independant of the according keysym.

I use a keybord with seperate key for Meta and Alt.
As default, mod1 is assigned to Alt and mod4 is assigned to Meta.
Therefore, Lyx thinks my Alt key would be Meta.

Can I change this behavior without changing my X keymapping.

Thank you, Rick Janda



test

2000-06-23 Thread Rick Janda

Can't find my message in the list, therefore a test...



Problem with Meta-Key

2000-06-23 Thread Rick Janda

Hallo,

I use Lyx 1.1.4.
It seem, that lyx always use the key with modifier bit 1 as Meta,
 independant of the according keysym.

I use a keybord with seperate key for Meta and Alt.
As default, mod1 is assigned to Alt and mod4 is assigned to Meta.
Therefore, Lyx thinks my Alt key would be Meta.

Can I change this behavior without changing my X keymapping.

Thank you, Rick Janda



test

2000-06-23 Thread Rick Janda

Can't find my message in the list, therefore a test...



Problem with Meta-Key

2000-06-23 Thread Rick Janda

Hallo,

I use Lyx 1.1.4.
It seem, that lyx always use the key with modifier bit 1 as Meta,
 independant of the according keysym.

I use a keybord with seperate key for Meta and Alt.
As default, mod1 is assigned to Alt and mod4 is assigned to Meta.
Therefore, Lyx thinks my Alt key would be Meta.

Can I change this behavior without changing my X keymapping.

Thank you, Rick Janda