Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-28 Thread .
Hi Andrei,

 Henning, I think your problem is that the locale you're using is still
 unicode-based,  no  matter if its de_DE or [EMAIL PROTECTED] What you
 need  to  do  is  define  a  truly  latin-1  locale, that is smth like
 de_DE.iso-8859-1  (or similar), and then follow the advice above and
 do  $  LANG=de_DE.iso-8859-1  lyx.  Also,  check  that the document or
 character language is set to German, it'll help.

I think that's my problem. 

 PS: I don't know about Gentoo, since I love my Debian (and it's been a
 while  since  I  ran  into any locale-specific problems :), but on the
 other  hand,  it  shouldn't  be  problem  for  you as a Gentoo user to
 compile  the  necessary  locale  from source, if it's not available in
 ebuilds =)

Maybe I should know that...:-S... I added «userlocales» to the USE-flags and 
«de_DE.iso-8859-1/iso-8859-1» to /etc/locales.build - and recomplied glibc. 
After that I entered:

localedef -c -f iso-8859-1 -i de_DE de_DE.iso-8859-1

Now my «locale -a | grep de» gives following output:

de_DE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
de_DE.iso88591
de_DE.utf8

Where are the dashes left?? But ok, so I enterd:

LANG=de_DE.iso88591 lyx

(and also I tried:)

LANG=de_DE.iso-8859-1 lyx

but I still have my problem :-(. Can you tell me, where I made a mistake?

Thanks, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-28 Thread .
Hi Andrei,

 Henning, I think your problem is that the locale you're using is still
 unicode-based,  no  matter if its de_DE or [EMAIL PROTECTED] What you
 need  to  do  is  define  a  truly  latin-1  locale, that is smth like
 de_DE.iso-8859-1  (or similar), and then follow the advice above and
 do  $  LANG=de_DE.iso-8859-1  lyx.  Also,  check  that the document or
 character language is set to German, it'll help.

I think that's my problem. 

 PS: I don't know about Gentoo, since I love my Debian (and it's been a
 while  since  I  ran  into any locale-specific problems :), but on the
 other  hand,  it  shouldn't  be  problem  for  you as a Gentoo user to
 compile  the  necessary  locale  from source, if it's not available in
 ebuilds =)

Maybe I should know that...:-S... I added «userlocales» to the USE-flags and 
«de_DE.iso-8859-1/iso-8859-1» to /etc/locales.build - and recomplied glibc. 
After that I entered:

localedef -c -f iso-8859-1 -i de_DE de_DE.iso-8859-1

Now my «locale -a | grep de» gives following output:

de_DE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
de_DE.iso88591
de_DE.utf8

Where are the dashes left?? But ok, so I enterd:

LANG=de_DE.iso88591 lyx

(and also I tried:)

LANG=de_DE.iso-8859-1 lyx

but I still have my problem :-(. Can you tell me, where I made a mistake?

Thanks, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-28 Thread .
Hi Andrei,

> Henning, I think your problem is that the locale you're using is still
> unicode-based,  no  matter if its "de_DE" or [EMAIL PROTECTED] What you
> need  to  do  is  define  a  truly  latin-1  locale, that is smth like
> "de_DE.iso-8859-1"  (or similar), and then follow the advice above and
> do  $  LANG=de_DE.iso-8859-1  lyx.  Also,  check  that the document or
> character language is set to German, it'll help.

I think that's my problem. 

> PS: I don't know about Gentoo, since I love my Debian (and it's been a
> while  since  I  ran  into any locale-specific problems :), but on the
> other  hand,  it  shouldn't  be  problem  for  you as a Gentoo user to
> compile  the  necessary  locale  from source, if it's not available in
> ebuilds =)

Maybe I should know that...:-S... I added «userlocales» to the USE-flags and 
«de_DE.iso-8859-1/iso-8859-1» to /etc/locales.build - and recomplied glibc. 
After that I entered:

localedef -c -f iso-8859-1 -i de_DE de_DE.iso-8859-1

Now my «locale -a | grep de» gives following output:

de_DE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
de_DE.iso88591
de_DE.utf8

Where are the dashes left?? But ok, so I enterd:

LANG=de_DE.iso88591 lyx

(and also I tried:)

LANG=de_DE.iso-8859-1 lyx

but I still have my problem :-(. Can you tell me, where I made a mistake?

Thanks, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread .
Thanks for the first answers,

 Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
 with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.
[..]  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
 iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.

can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events in 
latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)

I am using Gentoo, so I checked the unicode depended packages:

USE=-unicode emerge -Np world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] app-editors/nano-1.3.7
[ebuild   R   ] app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r14
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.13-r1
[ebuild   R   ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r6
[ebuild   R   ] dev-util/dialog-1.0.20050206

I guess it must be something in baselayout, but I don't have a clue.

Ciao, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread Angus Leeming

. wrote:

Thanks for the first answers,



Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.
[..]  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.



can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events in 
latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)


Start LyX as
$ LANG=de_DE lyx

LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.

Angus



Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread .
  can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events
  in latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)

 Start LyX as
 $ LANG=de_DE lyx

 LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.

I have the latest lyx-version I can find: 1.3.6. Also the website (lyx.org) 
says that the actuell version is 1.3.6. 

But I tried your suggestion with the version 1.3.6 and it failed :-( I still 
get that garbage if I press any non english-sign button...

- Do you really mention Lyx 1.4 or just a small mistake during writing?
- Has anybody out there other suggestions?? (I am still with hope...)

Ciao, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread Angus Leeming

. wrote:

can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events
in latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)


Start LyX as
$ LANG=de_DE lyx

LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.



I have the latest lyx-version I can find: 1.3.6. Also the website (lyx.org) 
says that the actuell version is 1.3.6. 

But I tried your suggestion with the version 1.3.6 and it failed :-( I still 
get that garbage if I press any non english-sign button...


- Do you really mention Lyx 1.4 or just a small mistake during writing?


No, I really mentioned it. I meant the comment to mean that the problem is 
fixed somewhat in the current development version of LyX and will be part 
of LyX 1.4 when it is released.


Sorry for the confusion,
Angus


- Has anybody out there other suggestions?? (I am still with hope...)
Ciao, Henning




Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread .
Thanks for the first answers,

 Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
 with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.
[..]  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
 iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.

can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events in 
latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)

I am using Gentoo, so I checked the unicode depended packages:

USE=-unicode emerge -Np world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] app-editors/nano-1.3.7
[ebuild   R   ] app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r14
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.13-r1
[ebuild   R   ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r6
[ebuild   R   ] dev-util/dialog-1.0.20050206

I guess it must be something in baselayout, but I don't have a clue.

Ciao, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread Angus Leeming

. wrote:

Thanks for the first answers,



Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.
[..]  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.



can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events in 
latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)


Start LyX as
$ LANG=de_DE lyx

LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.

Angus



Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread .
  can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events
  in latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)

 Start LyX as
 $ LANG=de_DE lyx

 LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.

I have the latest lyx-version I can find: 1.3.6. Also the website (lyx.org) 
says that the actuell version is 1.3.6. 

But I tried your suggestion with the version 1.3.6 and it failed :-( I still 
get that garbage if I press any non english-sign button...

- Do you really mention Lyx 1.4 or just a small mistake during writing?
- Has anybody out there other suggestions?? (I am still with hope...)

Ciao, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread Angus Leeming

. wrote:

can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events
in latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)


Start LyX as
$ LANG=de_DE lyx

LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.



I have the latest lyx-version I can find: 1.3.6. Also the website (lyx.org) 
says that the actuell version is 1.3.6. 

But I tried your suggestion with the version 1.3.6 and it failed :-( I still 
get that garbage if I press any non english-sign button...


- Do you really mention Lyx 1.4 or just a small mistake during writing?


No, I really mentioned it. I meant the comment to mean that the problem is 
fixed somewhat in the current development version of LyX and will be part 
of LyX 1.4 when it is released.


Sorry for the confusion,
Angus


- Has anybody out there other suggestions?? (I am still with hope...)
Ciao, Henning




Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread .
Thanks for the first answers,

> Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
> with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.
>[..]  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
> iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.

can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events in 
latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)

I am using Gentoo, so I checked the unicode depended packages:

USE="-unicode" emerge -Np world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] app-editors/nano-1.3.7
[ebuild   R   ] app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r14
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.13-r1
[ebuild   R   ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r6
[ebuild   R   ] dev-util/dialog-1.0.20050206

I guess it must be something in baselayout, but I don't have a clue.

Ciao, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread Angus Leeming

. wrote:

Thanks for the first answers,



Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.
[..]  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.



can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events in 
latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)


Start LyX as
$ LANG=de_DE lyx

LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.

Angus



Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread .
> > can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events
> > in latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)
>
> Start LyX as
> $ LANG=de_DE lyx
>
> LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.

I have the latest lyx-version I can find: 1.3.6. Also the website (lyx.org) 
says that the actuell version is 1.3.6. 

But I tried your suggestion with the version 1.3.6 and it failed :-( I still 
get that garbage if I press any non english-sign button...

- Do you really mention Lyx 1.4 or just a small mistake during writing?
- Has anybody out there other suggestions?? (I am still with hope...)

Ciao, Henning


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-27 Thread Angus Leeming

. wrote:

can you give me a hint, how can I make that X-windows send the key-events
in latin-charset to lyx? (And not in utf-8 like now)


Start LyX as
$ LANG=de_DE lyx

LyX 1.4 will do the necessary magic for you.



I have the latest lyx-version I can find: 1.3.6. Also the website (lyx.org) 
says that the actuell version is 1.3.6. 

But I tried your suggestion with the version 1.3.6 and it failed :-( I still 
get that garbage if I press any non english-sign button...


- Do you really mention Lyx 1.4 or just a small mistake during writing?


No, I really mentioned it. I meant the comment to mean that the problem is 
fixed somewhat in the current development version of LyX and will be part 
of LyX 1.4 when it is released.


Sorry for the confusion,
Angus


- Has anybody out there other suggestions?? (I am still with hope...)
Ciao, Henning




Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-26 Thread John C. McCabe-Dansted
On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:08, . wrote:
 Hi,

 I really like using lyx... but since a couple of months I have a problem.
 Everytime I try to enter a language depended character, like ö (german o
 umlaut) or any else. I got following:

   http://henning.haeske.com/lyx.jpg

The LaTeX command for umlaut is \{o}. You can enter this by way of entering 
Can you enter an umlaut by:
1: Clicking on the red TEX button
2: typing   \{o}
3: Clicking on the new red button in your text labelled ERT

More such commands from http://www.agu.org/meetings/mtabsLTX.html

   Backwards (grave) accent\`{x} tout \`{a} vous = tout à vous
   Forward (acute) accent  \'{x} Gonzal\'{e}z = Gonzaléz
   Caret symbol\^{x} \`{a} bient\^{o} = à bientô
   Dieresis (umlaut)   \{x} f\{u}r = für
   Tilde   \~{x} se\~{n}or = señor

Does anyone know if LyX actually tries to support unicode characters?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
Masters Student


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-26 Thread Helge Hafting
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 11:49:42PM +1300, John C. McCabe-Dansted wrote:
 On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:08, . wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I really like using lyx... but since a couple of months I have a problem.
  Everytime I try to enter a language depended character, like ö (german o
  umlaut) or any else. I got following:
 
  http://henning.haeske.com/lyx.jpg
 
 The LaTeX command for umlaut is \{o}. You can enter this by way of entering 

Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.

[...]
 Does anyone know if LyX actually tries to support unicode characters?

Yes - it doesn't.  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.

Helge Hafting


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-26 Thread John C. McCabe-Dansted
On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:08, . wrote:
 Hi,

 I really like using lyx... but since a couple of months I have a problem.
 Everytime I try to enter a language depended character, like ö (german o
 umlaut) or any else. I got following:

   http://henning.haeske.com/lyx.jpg

The LaTeX command for umlaut is \{o}. You can enter this by way of entering 
Can you enter an umlaut by:
1: Clicking on the red TEX button
2: typing   \{o}
3: Clicking on the new red button in your text labelled ERT

More such commands from http://www.agu.org/meetings/mtabsLTX.html

   Backwards (grave) accent\`{x} tout \`{a} vous = tout à vous
   Forward (acute) accent  \'{x} Gonzal\'{e}z = Gonzaléz
   Caret symbol\^{x} \`{a} bient\^{o} = à bientô
   Dieresis (umlaut)   \{x} f\{u}r = für
   Tilde   \~{x} se\~{n}or = señor

Does anyone know if LyX actually tries to support unicode characters?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
Masters Student


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-26 Thread Helge Hafting
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 11:49:42PM +1300, John C. McCabe-Dansted wrote:
 On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:08, . wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I really like using lyx... but since a couple of months I have a problem.
  Everytime I try to enter a language depended character, like ö (german o
  umlaut) or any else. I got following:
 
  http://henning.haeske.com/lyx.jpg
 
 The LaTeX command for umlaut is \{o}. You can enter this by way of entering 

Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.

[...]
 Does anyone know if LyX actually tries to support unicode characters?

Yes - it doesn't.  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.

Helge Hafting


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-26 Thread John C. McCabe-Dansted
On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:08, . wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I really like using lyx... but since a couple of months I have a problem.
> Everytime I try to enter a language depended character, like ö (german o
> umlaut) or any else. I got following:
>
>   http://henning.haeske.com/lyx.jpg

The LaTeX command for umlaut is \"{o}. You can enter this by way of entering 
Can you enter an umlaut by:
1: Clicking on the red TEX button
2: typing   \"{o}
3: Clicking on the new red button in your text labelled "ERT"

More such commands from http://www.agu.org/meetings/mtabsLTX.html

   Backwards (grave) accent\`{x} tout \`{a} vous = tout à vous
   Forward (acute) accent  \'{x} Gonzal\'{e}z = Gonzaléz
   Caret symbol\^{x} \`{a} bient\^{o} = à bientô
   Dieresis (umlaut)   \"{x} f\"{u}r = für
   Tilde   \~{x} se\~{n}or = señor

Does anyone know if LyX actually tries to support unicode characters?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
Masters Student


Re: Lyx and language depended characters / A Unicode Problem?

2005-11-26 Thread Helge Hafting
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 11:49:42PM +1300, John C. McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:08, . wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I really like using lyx... but since a couple of months I have a problem.
> > Everytime I try to enter a language depended character, like ö (german o
> > umlaut) or any else. I got following:
> >
> > http://henning.haeske.com/lyx.jpg
> 
> The LaTeX command for umlaut is \"{o}. You can enter this by way of entering 

Correct, but this shouldn't be necessary as lyx usually have no problems
with ö or most of the other latin non-ascii characters.

[...]
> Does anyone know if LyX actually tries to support unicode characters?

Yes - it doesn't.  Lyx works with various latin encodings such as
iso8859-1, unicode support is planned for version 1.5.

Helge Hafting