Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

To elaborate a little further. So, to
compile my file I have to correct my
colleagues bibtex errors. But when
he then sends me an updated bibtex
file, I have to make the corrections all
over again. Of course I could send him
back his corrected bibtex file, but
that has its own set of issues, and
might not be popular.

As long as all collaborators use
LyX (2.1) it's not a problem. They will
get the bibtex errors, and will have
to correct them. But if some collaborators
use LaTeX, this can cause problems.
The issue with bibtex somewhat
breaks the compatibility between
LaTeX and LyX.

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

Sorry, another example. I'm trying to make 2.1.0 work,
and correcting in BiBTeX, so I continually encounter issues. 
Say you have two bibtex
files X.bib and Y.bib. Some documents
use X.bib, some use Y.bib. Now you make
a new document that uses both X.bib and Y.bib,
but they have some entries repeated. It will
not compile. You
could delete those entries from X.bib
or Y.bib, but then files that rely on
only X.bib or Y.bib will no longer compile.

I feel there needs to be at least a
preference to disable checking bibtex errors,
although this has been rejected in previous
emails. This is really needed to collaborate
with people who use only LaTeX.

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Host-Madsen wrote:
 I really hope it would be possible to compile
 in spite of bibtex errors.

It is, the change was reverted for final 2.1.0. Pavel

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

Pavel Sanda sanda at lyx.org writes:
 It is, the change was reverted for final 2.1.0. Pavel

OK, thanks. It has given my a lot of headache.

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

To elaborate a little further. So, to
compile my file I have to correct my
colleagues bibtex errors. But when
he then sends me an updated bibtex
file, I have to make the corrections all
over again. Of course I could send him
back his corrected bibtex file, but
that has its own set of issues, and
might not be popular.

As long as all collaborators use
LyX (2.1) it's not a problem. They will
get the bibtex errors, and will have
to correct them. But if some collaborators
use LaTeX, this can cause problems.
The issue with bibtex somewhat
breaks the compatibility between
LaTeX and LyX.

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

Sorry, another example. I'm trying to make 2.1.0 work,
and correcting in BiBTeX, so I continually encounter issues. 
Say you have two bibtex
files X.bib and Y.bib. Some documents
use X.bib, some use Y.bib. Now you make
a new document that uses both X.bib and Y.bib,
but they have some entries repeated. It will
not compile. You
could delete those entries from X.bib
or Y.bib, but then files that rely on
only X.bib or Y.bib will no longer compile.

I feel there needs to be at least a
preference to disable checking bibtex errors,
although this has been rejected in previous
emails. This is really needed to collaborate
with people who use only LaTeX.

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Host-Madsen wrote:
 I really hope it would be possible to compile
 in spite of bibtex errors.

It is, the change was reverted for final 2.1.0. Pavel

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

Pavel Sanda sanda at lyx.org writes:
 It is, the change was reverted for final 2.1.0. Pavel

OK, thanks. It has given my a lot of headache.

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

To elaborate a little further. So, to
compile my file I have to correct my
colleagues bibtex errors. But when
he then sends me an updated bibtex
file, I have to make the corrections all
over again. Of course I could send him
back his corrected bibtex file, but
that has its own set of issues, and
might not be popular.

As long as all collaborators use
LyX (2.1) it's not a problem. They will
get the bibtex errors, and will have
to correct them. But if some collaborators
use LaTeX, this can cause problems.
The issue with bibtex somewhat
breaks the compatibility between
LaTeX and LyX.

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

Sorry, another example. I'm trying to make 2.1.0 work,
and correcting in BiBTeX, so I continually encounter issues. 
Say you have two bibtex
files X.bib and Y.bib. Some documents
use X.bib, some use Y.bib. Now you make
a new document that uses both X.bib and Y.bib,
but they have some entries repeated. It will
not compile. You
could delete those entries from X.bib
or Y.bib, but then files that rely on
only X.bib or Y.bib will no longer compile.

I feel there needs to be at least a
preference to disable checking bibtex errors,
although this has been rejected in previous
emails. This is really needed to collaborate
with people who use only LaTeX.

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Pavel Sanda]

Anders Host-Madsen wrote:
> I really hope it would be possible to compile
> in spite of bibtex errors.

It is, the change was reverted for final 2.1.0. Pavel

Re: BiBTeX and LyX 2.1.0rc1

[Anders Host-Madsen]

Pavel Sanda  lyx.org> writes:
> It is, the change was reverted for final 2.1.0. Pavel

OK, thanks. It has given my a lot of headache.

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

Did you make sure that all of your references in the bib file have a BiBTeX
key ? Also, sometimes accented or extended (8-bit) characters cause the bib
parser from LyX to stop parsing past the broken entry. Thus it would only
show the first few parsed entries. Bear in mind that LyX shows the entries
sorted alphabetically by BiBTeX key and NOT in the order that they appear in
the bib file. It may be difficult to find exactly which entry is problematic
if that is the case. I do know that some of my bib files had a similar issue
because I had typed names or other fields in french with accents that were
OK under the Windows encoding I was using, but above the 7-bit standard
ASCII supported by BiBTeX.

Also, what is the entry type for your non-URL-containing entries ? Maybe
your bib file is non-standard or mangled ? Did you validate it was OK with a
tools such as JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net) ? Very often, bib files
that are generated online by bibliography databases are non-standard or
broken, as the support for RIS and Endnote is usually their main concern.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)


On 1 August 2010 15:37, Snir, Marc s...@illinois.edu wrote:

 when I try to insert a citation from my bib file, one those citations which
 have a URL appear in the list of available citations. How can I change this?
 Marc Snir

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Snir, Marc]

Thanks. The bibtex file is generated by JabRef and is MacRoman. It tunes out 
that search will find the entries, but the menu shows only those that have an 
URL.

On Aug 1, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:

Did you make sure that all of your references in the bib file have a BiBTeX key 
? Also, sometimes accented or extended (8-bit) characters cause the bib parser 
from LyX to stop parsing past the broken entry. Thus it would only show the 
first few parsed entries. Bear in mind that LyX shows the entries sorted 
alphabetically by BiBTeX key and NOT in the order that they appear in the bib 
file. It may be difficult to find exactly which entry is problematic if that is 
the case. I do know that some of my bib files had a similar issue because I had 
typed names or other fields in french with accents that were OK under the 
Windows encoding I was using, but above the 7-bit standard ASCII supported by 
BiBTeX.

Also, what is the entry type for your non-URL-containing entries ? Maybe your 
bib file is non-standard or mangled ? Did you validate it was OK with a tools 
such as JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.nethttp://jabref.sourceforge.net/) 
? Very often, bib files that are generated online by bibliography databases are 
non-standard or broken, as the support for RIS and Endnote is usually their 
main concern.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS 
(http://www.etsmtl.cahttp://www.etsmtl.ca/)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.cahttp://areximas.etsmtl.ca/)


On 1 August 2010 15:37, Snir, Marc 
s...@illinois.edumailto:s...@illinois.edu wrote:
when I try to insert a citation from my bib file, one those citations which 
have a URL appear in the list of available citations. How can I change this?
Marc Snir






Marc Snir

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Richard Heck]

On 8/1/10 8:18 PM, Snir, Marc wrote:

Thanks. The bibtex file is generated by JabRef and is MacRoman. It tunes out 
that search will find the entries, but the menu shows only those that have an 
URL.

   
Please send me this file privately, and I will see where the problem is: 
In the file, or in LyX.


rh

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

Did you make sure that all of your references in the bib file have a BiBTeX
key ? Also, sometimes accented or extended (8-bit) characters cause the bib
parser from LyX to stop parsing past the broken entry. Thus it would only
show the first few parsed entries. Bear in mind that LyX shows the entries
sorted alphabetically by BiBTeX key and NOT in the order that they appear in
the bib file. It may be difficult to find exactly which entry is problematic
if that is the case. I do know that some of my bib files had a similar issue
because I had typed names or other fields in french with accents that were
OK under the Windows encoding I was using, but above the 7-bit standard
ASCII supported by BiBTeX.

Also, what is the entry type for your non-URL-containing entries ? Maybe
your bib file is non-standard or mangled ? Did you validate it was OK with a
tools such as JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net) ? Very often, bib files
that are generated online by bibliography databases are non-standard or
broken, as the support for RIS and Endnote is usually their main concern.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)


On 1 August 2010 15:37, Snir, Marc s...@illinois.edu wrote:

 when I try to insert a citation from my bib file, one those citations which
 have a URL appear in the list of available citations. How can I change this?
 Marc Snir

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Snir, Marc]

Thanks. The bibtex file is generated by JabRef and is MacRoman. It tunes out 
that search will find the entries, but the menu shows only those that have an 
URL.

On Aug 1, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:

Did you make sure that all of your references in the bib file have a BiBTeX key 
? Also, sometimes accented or extended (8-bit) characters cause the bib parser 
from LyX to stop parsing past the broken entry. Thus it would only show the 
first few parsed entries. Bear in mind that LyX shows the entries sorted 
alphabetically by BiBTeX key and NOT in the order that they appear in the bib 
file. It may be difficult to find exactly which entry is problematic if that is 
the case. I do know that some of my bib files had a similar issue because I had 
typed names or other fields in french with accents that were OK under the 
Windows encoding I was using, but above the 7-bit standard ASCII supported by 
BiBTeX.

Also, what is the entry type for your non-URL-containing entries ? Maybe your 
bib file is non-standard or mangled ? Did you validate it was OK with a tools 
such as JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.nethttp://jabref.sourceforge.net/) 
? Very often, bib files that are generated online by bibliography databases are 
non-standard or broken, as the support for RIS and Endnote is usually their 
main concern.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS 
(http://www.etsmtl.cahttp://www.etsmtl.ca/)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.cahttp://areximas.etsmtl.ca/)


On 1 August 2010 15:37, Snir, Marc 
s...@illinois.edumailto:s...@illinois.edu wrote:
when I try to insert a citation from my bib file, one those citations which 
have a URL appear in the list of available citations. How can I change this?
Marc Snir






Marc Snir

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Richard Heck]

On 8/1/10 8:18 PM, Snir, Marc wrote:

Thanks. The bibtex file is generated by JabRef and is MacRoman. It tunes out 
that search will find the entries, but the menu shows only those that have an 
URL.

   
Please send me this file privately, and I will see where the problem is: 
In the file, or in LyX.


rh

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux]

Did you make sure that all of your references in the bib file have a BiBTeX
key ? Also, sometimes accented or extended (8-bit) characters cause the bib
parser from LyX to stop parsing past the "broken" entry. Thus it would only
show the first few parsed entries. Bear in mind that LyX shows the entries
sorted alphabetically by BiBTeX key and NOT in the order that they appear in
the bib file. It may be difficult to find exactly which entry is problematic
if that is the case. I do know that some of my bib files had a similar issue
because I had typed names or other fields in french with accents that were
OK under the Windows encoding I was using, but above the 7-bit standard
ASCII supported by BiBTeX.

Also, what is the entry type for your non-URL-containing entries ? Maybe
your bib file is non-standard or mangled ? Did you validate it was OK with a
tools such as JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net) ? Very often, bib files
that are generated online by bibliography databases are non-standard or
broken, as the support for RIS and Endnote is usually their main concern.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)


On 1 August 2010 15:37, Snir, Marc  wrote:

> when I try to insert a citation from my bib file, one those citations which
> have a URL appear in the list of available citations. How can I change this?
> Marc Snir
>
>
>
>
>

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Snir, Marc]

Thanks. The bibtex file is generated by JabRef and is MacRoman. It tunes out 
that search will find the entries, but the menu shows only those that have an 
URL.

On Aug 1, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux wrote:

Did you make sure that all of your references in the bib file have a BiBTeX key 
? Also, sometimes accented or extended (8-bit) characters cause the bib parser 
from LyX to stop parsing past the "broken" entry. Thus it would only show the 
first few parsed entries. Bear in mind that LyX shows the entries sorted 
alphabetically by BiBTeX key and NOT in the order that they appear in the bib 
file. It may be difficult to find exactly which entry is problematic if that is 
the case. I do know that some of my bib files had a similar issue because I had 
typed names or other fields in french with accents that were OK under the 
Windows encoding I was using, but above the 7-bit standard ASCII supported by 
BiBTeX.

Also, what is the entry type for your non-URL-containing entries ? Maybe your 
bib file is non-standard or mangled ? Did you validate it was OK with a tools 
such as JabRef (http://jabref.sourceforge.net) 
? Very often, bib files that are generated online by bibliography databases are 
non-standard or broken, as the support for RIS and Endnote is usually their 
main concern.

Best regards,

Tennessee Carmel-Veilleux, ing. jr (OIQ)
Electrical engineering masters student, ETS 
(http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Project AREXIMAS (http://areximas.etsmtl.ca)


On 1 August 2010 15:37, Snir, Marc 
> wrote:
when I try to insert a citation from my bib file, one those citations which 
have a URL appear in the list of available citations. How can I change this?
Marc Snir






Marc Snir

Re: bibtex with Lyx

[Richard Heck]

On 8/1/10 8:18 PM, Snir, Marc wrote:

Thanks. The bibtex file is generated by JabRef and is MacRoman. It tunes out 
that search will find the entries, but the menu shows only those that have an 
URL.

   
Please send me this file privately, and I will see where the problem is: 
In the file, or in LyX.


rh

Re: Bibtex and Lyx

[Bennett Helm]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear lyx users
 I have a problem using Bibtex with the last lyx version running under
 MacOsX Leopard.
 I have bibliographic databases made with Bibdesk and jabref; they are
 saved in Bibtex
 formAT.
 When i try to insert the bibliography in Lyx under
 Lists/TOC/Bibliography., and i
 point in the the dialog box to the path where the databasea are, the files
 are dimmed, so
 i can?t open them.
 If i try the option all formts i open the file but it becames empty.
 So when i try cite, the citation appear, but when i do a DVI preview the
 citation is a ?
 mark and nothing about bibliography.


My guess is that your bibliographical databases are not saved with the .bib
extension. That would explain why the files are dimmed in the dialog and
why, once you force LyX to recognize them, BibTeX nonetheless doesn't. If
that's right, simply add .bib to the appropriate files and it should work.
If not, look in the LaTeX Log for error messages (Document  LaTeX Log), and
if you don't understand them, post them to the list for further help.

Bennett

Re: Bibtex and Lyx

[Bennett Helm]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear lyx users
 I have a problem using Bibtex with the last lyx version running under
 MacOsX Leopard.
 I have bibliographic databases made with Bibdesk and jabref; they are
 saved in Bibtex
 formAT.
 When i try to insert the bibliography in Lyx under
 Lists/TOC/Bibliography., and i
 point in the the dialog box to the path where the databasea are, the files
 are dimmed, so
 i can?t open them.
 If i try the option all formts i open the file but it becames empty.
 So when i try cite, the citation appear, but when i do a DVI preview the
 citation is a ?
 mark and nothing about bibliography.


My guess is that your bibliographical databases are not saved with the .bib
extension. That would explain why the files are dimmed in the dialog and
why, once you force LyX to recognize them, BibTeX nonetheless doesn't. If
that's right, simply add .bib to the appropriate files and it should work.
If not, look in the LaTeX Log for error messages (Document  LaTeX Log), and
if you don't understand them, post them to the list for further help.

Bennett

Re: Bibtex and Lyx

[Bennett Helm]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:54 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear lyx users
> I have a problem using Bibtex with the last lyx version running under
> MacOsX Leopard.
> I have bibliographic databases made with Bibdesk and jabref; they are
> saved in Bibtex
> formAT.
> When i try to insert the bibliography in Lyx under
> Lists/TOC/Bibliography., and i
> point in the the dialog box to the path where the databasea are, the files
> are dimmed, so
> i can?t open them.
> If i try the option "all formts" i open the file but it becames empty.
> So when i try cite, the citation appear, but when i do a DVI preview the
> citation is a ?
> mark and nothing about bibliography.


My guess is that your bibliographical databases are not saved with the .bib
extension. That would explain why the files are dimmed in the dialog and
why, once you force LyX to recognize them, BibTeX nonetheless doesn't. If
that's right, simply add ".bib" to the appropriate files and it should work.
If not, look in the LaTeX Log for error messages (Document > LaTeX Log), and
if you don't understand them, post them to the list for further help.

Bennett

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[rgheck]

In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


If I create a file with a missing .bib file, I don't get a crash. So it 
must be more than that.


rh

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[G. Massera]

The problem is regarding the /home/gianluca access.
In fact... if you create a simple document and you add a bibtex 
database... and after you edit the .lyx file outside lyx with a 
texteditor... and change the line

bibfiles /Users/gianluca/tmp/Articoli/databaseAll
with a line that try to access to /home/ directory on Mac
bibfiles /home/gianluca/tmp/Articoli/databaseAll
It will crash.
But if you change to another directory it will not crash even if the 
file doesn't exist.
Maybe the problem could be in the fact that I can't even list the 
/home/ directory on Mac

In fact, on apple terminal this is what I get:

Mac:~ ls /home/gianluca
ls: /home/gianluca: Input/output error


rgheck ha scritto:


In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


If I create a file with a missing .bib file, I don't get a crash. So 
it must be more than that.


rh

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[G. Massera]

Ok... I understand where was the problem.
In my linux machine the database was in 
home/gianluca/Documents/database.bib
... but when I moved my Documents data... now on Mac the position is 
Users/gianluca/Documents/dtatabase.bib !!!
I click on the bibtex field on Lyx... I removed the database pointing to 
home/gianluca and added the right one... and no more crash :-)


But a question arise: Why don't simply report that the file doesn't 
exist ... instead of getting crash ???
Maybe, a simple check before running bibtex would be nice to avoid this 
kind of problems.
In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


Cheers,
Gianluca


rgheck ha scritto:

G. Massera wrote:

Hello everybody,
this is not a bug... is a problem concerning my bibtex file... or 
installation but I can't understand how to fix it :-(

Ok, let's start from beginning.
I use lyx for creating my documents on Linux (OpenSuse 10.2) and I 
use a bib file for my references. All goes ok.

Some day ago, I buyed a Mac... and I'm moving all my work stuff on Mac.
I installed MacTex... and LyX 1.5.3
When I open a document created by me that use the .bib file... and I 
generate the .pdf (pdflatex)... Lyx crash with reporting the 
following lines on debug console:


- Running BibTeX.
- We got a translation
- terminate called after throwing an instance of 
'boost::filesystem::basic_filesystem_errorboost::filesystem::basic_pathstd::string, 
boost::filesystem::path_traits '

-  what():  boost::filesystem::exists
- Abort trap

So, I guessed that is a problem of my bib file... and in fact, if I 
remove only the bibtex field and the end of document... Lyx will not 
crash and generate a perfect PDF ... but I can't understand why 
bibtex crash LyX... and what I have to do for fix it.


Well, if LyX is crashing, that is a problem, whatever else is happening.

First, try exporting to LaTeX and running, from a terminal:
latex yourfile
bibtex yourfile
latex yourfile
latex yourfile
Report any error messages you get.

After that, one of us should have a look at the file and see if we can 
reproduce the crash. Can you get it to do it with just the bibtex field?


Richard

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[rgheck]

In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


If I create a file with a missing .bib file, I don't get a crash. So it 
must be more than that.


rh

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[G. Massera]

The problem is regarding the /home/gianluca access.
In fact... if you create a simple document and you add a bibtex 
database... and after you edit the .lyx file outside lyx with a 
texteditor... and change the line

bibfiles /Users/gianluca/tmp/Articoli/databaseAll
with a line that try to access to /home/ directory on Mac
bibfiles /home/gianluca/tmp/Articoli/databaseAll
It will crash.
But if you change to another directory it will not crash even if the 
file doesn't exist.
Maybe the problem could be in the fact that I can't even list the 
/home/ directory on Mac

In fact, on apple terminal this is what I get:

Mac:~ ls /home/gianluca
ls: /home/gianluca: Input/output error


rgheck ha scritto:


In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


If I create a file with a missing .bib file, I don't get a crash. So 
it must be more than that.


rh

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[G. Massera]

Ok... I understand where was the problem.
In my linux machine the database was in 
home/gianluca/Documents/database.bib
... but when I moved my Documents data... now on Mac the position is 
Users/gianluca/Documents/dtatabase.bib !!!
I click on the bibtex field on Lyx... I removed the database pointing to 
home/gianluca and added the right one... and no more crash :-)


But a question arise: Why don't simply report that the file doesn't 
exist ... instead of getting crash ???
Maybe, a simple check before running bibtex would be nice to avoid this 
kind of problems.
In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


Cheers,
Gianluca


rgheck ha scritto:

G. Massera wrote:

Hello everybody,
this is not a bug... is a problem concerning my bibtex file... or 
installation but I can't understand how to fix it :-(

Ok, let's start from beginning.
I use lyx for creating my documents on Linux (OpenSuse 10.2) and I 
use a bib file for my references. All goes ok.

Some day ago, I buyed a Mac... and I'm moving all my work stuff on Mac.
I installed MacTex... and LyX 1.5.3
When I open a document created by me that use the .bib file... and I 
generate the .pdf (pdflatex)... Lyx crash with reporting the 
following lines on debug console:


- Running BibTeX.
- We got a translation
- terminate called after throwing an instance of 
'boost::filesystem::basic_filesystem_errorboost::filesystem::basic_pathstd::string, 
boost::filesystem::path_traits '

-  what():  boost::filesystem::exists
- Abort trap

So, I guessed that is a problem of my bib file... and in fact, if I 
remove only the bibtex field and the end of document... Lyx will not 
crash and generate a perfect PDF ... but I can't understand why 
bibtex crash LyX... and what I have to do for fix it.


Well, if LyX is crashing, that is a problem, whatever else is happening.

First, try exporting to LaTeX and running, from a terminal:
latex yourfile
bibtex yourfile
latex yourfile
latex yourfile
Report any error messages you get.

After that, one of us should have a look at the file and see if we can 
reproduce the crash. Can you get it to do it with just the bibtex field?


Richard

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[rgheck]

In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


If I create a file with a missing .bib file, I don't get a crash. So it 
must be more than that.


rh

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[G. Massera]

The problem is regarding the "/home/gianluca" access.
In fact... if you create a simple document and you add a bibtex 
database... and after you edit the .lyx file outside lyx with a 
texteditor... and change the line

bibfiles "/Users/gianluca/tmp/Articoli/databaseAll"
with a line that try to access to "/home/" directory on Mac
bibfiles "/home/gianluca/tmp/Articoli/databaseAll"
It will crash.
But if you change to another directory it will not crash even if the 
file doesn't exist.
Maybe the problem could be in the fact that I can't even list the 
"/home/" directory on Mac

In fact, on apple terminal this is what I get:

Mac:~> ls /home/gianluca
ls: /home/gianluca: Input/output error


rgheck ha scritto:


In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


If I create a file with a missing .bib file, I don't get a crash. So 
it must be more than that.


rh

Re: BibTex force Lyx to crash :-( [SOLVED]

[G. Massera]

Ok... I understand where was the problem.
In my linux machine the database was in 
"home/gianluca/Documents/database.bib"
... but when I moved my Documents data... now on Mac the position is 
"Users/gianluca/Documents/dtatabase.bib" !!!
I click on the bibtex field on Lyx... I removed the database pointing to 
"home/gianluca" and added the right one... and no more crash :-)


But a question arise: "Why don't simply report that the file doesn't 
exist ... instead of getting crash ???"
Maybe, a simple check before running bibtex would be nice to avoid this 
kind of problems.
In fact, I think that if I pass my lyx document to a my friend ... 
without the .bib.. lyx will crash :-( :-(


Cheers,
Gianluca


rgheck ha scritto:

G. Massera wrote:

Hello everybody,
this is not a bug... is a problem concerning my bibtex file... or 
installation but I can't understand how to fix it :-(

Ok, let's start from beginning.
I use lyx for creating my documents on Linux (OpenSuse 10.2) and I 
use a bib file for my references. All goes ok.

Some day ago, I buyed a Mac... and I'm moving all my work stuff on Mac.
I installed MacTex... and LyX 1.5.3
When I open a document created by me that use the .bib file... and I 
generate the .pdf (pdflatex)... Lyx crash with reporting the 
following lines on debug console:


- Running BibTeX.
- We got a translation
- terminate called after throwing an instance of 
'boost::filesystem::basic_filesystem_error >'

-  what():  boost::filesystem::exists
- Abort trap

So, I guessed that is a problem of my bib file... and in fact, if I 
remove only the bibtex field and the end of document... Lyx will not 
crash and generate a perfect PDF ... but I can't understand why 
bibtex crash LyX... and what I have to do for fix it.


Well, if LyX is crashing, that is a problem, whatever else is happening.

First, try exporting to LaTeX and running, from a terminal:
>latex yourfile
>bibtex yourfile
>latex yourfile
>latex yourfile
Report any error messages you get.

After that, one of us should have a look at the file and see if we can 
reproduce the crash. Can you get it to do it with just the bibtex field?


Richard

Re: Bibtex and Lyx Problem

[Paul A. Rubin]

Kelvin Ngo wrote:
Hi All, 

I am currently running Lyx on Windows XP and I am
having a few problems with my bibtex references. 

As it stands, I can add a .bib reference to the end of
my lyx file and reference it with no problems at all. 

However, whenever I add a new reference to the .bib
file which I have already inserted into my document,
when i do an insert citation reference, the newly
added references do not show up. 

At the moment, to get around this, I have to delete
the references at the end of the page and then insert
it again before the new refernces that i have added to
the .bib file show up. 

Any ideas on how I can fix this problem? 

Thanks! 

Kelvin
I'm unable to reproduce this.  Perhaps more details would help.  Where 
in the .bib file are you adding references (beginning, middle, end)?  Is 
the document open in LyX when you add the references?  If you close the 
document and reopen it (without deleting the references), does the 
problem persist?  (Groping in the dark here.)

-- Paul

Re: Bibtex and Lyx Problem

[Kelvin Ngo]

Hi, 

Sorry, I tried it again and it is fine now. I was
actually using a bibliography manager called JabRef
and I had inserted new references in there. However,
what I didnt realise is that I had to save it in order
for the references to appear in the dialog box in lyx
when you insert citation references. 

But thanks!!

Regards, 
Kelvin


 --- Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Kelvin Ngo wrote:
  Hi All, 
  
  I am currently running Lyx on Windows XP and I am
  having a few problems with my bibtex references. 
  
  As it stands, I can add a .bib reference to the
 end of
  my lyx file and reference it with no problems at
 all. 
  
  However, whenever I add a new reference to the
 .bib
  file which I have already inserted into my
 document,
  when i do an insert citation reference, the newly
  added references do not show up. 
  
  At the moment, to get around this, I have to
 delete
  the references at the end of the page and then
 insert
  it again before the new refernces that i have
 added to
  the .bib file show up. 
  
  Any ideas on how I can fix this problem? 
  
  Thanks! 
  
  Kelvin
 
 I'm unable to reproduce this.  Perhaps more details
 would help.  Where 
 in the .bib file are you adding references
 (beginning, middle, end)?  Is 
 the document open in LyX when you add the
 references?  If you close the 
 document and reopen it (without deleting the
 references), does the 
 problem persist?  (Groping in the dark here.)
 
 -- Paul
 
  

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Re: Bibtex and Lyx Problem

[Paul A. Rubin]

Kelvin Ngo wrote:
Hi All, 

I am currently running Lyx on Windows XP and I am
having a few problems with my bibtex references. 

As it stands, I can add a .bib reference to the end of
my lyx file and reference it with no problems at all. 

However, whenever I add a new reference to the .bib
file which I have already inserted into my document,
when i do an insert citation reference, the newly
added references do not show up. 

At the moment, to get around this, I have to delete
the references at the end of the page and then insert
it again before the new refernces that i have added to
the .bib file show up. 

Any ideas on how I can fix this problem? 

Thanks! 

Kelvin
I'm unable to reproduce this.  Perhaps more details would help.  Where 
in the .bib file are you adding references (beginning, middle, end)?  Is 
the document open in LyX when you add the references?  If you close the 
document and reopen it (without deleting the references), does the 
problem persist?  (Groping in the dark here.)

-- Paul

Re: Bibtex and Lyx Problem

[Kelvin Ngo]

Hi, 

Sorry, I tried it again and it is fine now. I was
actually using a bibliography manager called JabRef
and I had inserted new references in there. However,
what I didnt realise is that I had to save it in order
for the references to appear in the dialog box in lyx
when you insert citation references. 

But thanks!!

Regards, 
Kelvin


 --- Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Kelvin Ngo wrote:
  Hi All, 
  
  I am currently running Lyx on Windows XP and I am
  having a few problems with my bibtex references. 
  
  As it stands, I can add a .bib reference to the
 end of
  my lyx file and reference it with no problems at
 all. 
  
  However, whenever I add a new reference to the
 .bib
  file which I have already inserted into my
 document,
  when i do an insert citation reference, the newly
  added references do not show up. 
  
  At the moment, to get around this, I have to
 delete
  the references at the end of the page and then
 insert
  it again before the new refernces that i have
 added to
  the .bib file show up. 
  
  Any ideas on how I can fix this problem? 
  
  Thanks! 
  
  Kelvin
 
 I'm unable to reproduce this.  Perhaps more details
 would help.  Where 
 in the .bib file are you adding references
 (beginning, middle, end)?  Is 
 the document open in LyX when you add the
 references?  If you close the 
 document and reopen it (without deleting the
 references), does the 
 problem persist?  (Groping in the dark here.)
 
 -- Paul
 
  

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Re: Bibtex and Lyx Problem

[Paul A. Rubin]

Kelvin Ngo wrote:
Hi All, 

I am currently running Lyx on Windows XP and I am
having a few problems with my bibtex references. 

As it stands, I can add a .bib reference to the end of
my lyx file and reference it with no problems at all. 

However, whenever I add a new reference to the .bib
file which I have already inserted into my document,
when i do an insert citation reference, the newly
added references do not show up. 

At the moment, to get around this, I have to delete
the references at the end of the page and then insert
it again before the new refernces that i have added to
the .bib file show up. 

Any ideas on how I can fix this problem? 

Thanks! 

Kelvin
I'm unable to reproduce this.  Perhaps more details would help.  Where 
in the .bib file are you adding references (beginning, middle, end)?  Is 
the document open in LyX when you add the references?  If you close the 
document and reopen it (without deleting the references), does the 
problem persist?  (Groping in the dark here.)

-- Paul

Re: Bibtex and Lyx Problem

[Kelvin Ngo]

Hi, 

Sorry, I tried it again and it is fine now. I was
actually using a bibliography manager called JabRef
and I had inserted new references in there. However,
what I didnt realise is that I had to save it in order
for the references to appear in the dialog box in lyx
when you insert citation references. 

But thanks!!

Regards, 
Kelvin


 --- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Kelvin Ngo wrote:
> > Hi All, 
> > 
> > I am currently running Lyx on Windows XP and I am
> > having a few problems with my bibtex references. 
> > 
> > As it stands, I can add a .bib reference to the
> end of
> > my lyx file and reference it with no problems at
> all. 
> > 
> > However, whenever I add a new reference to the
> .bib
> > file which I have already inserted into my
> document,
> > when i do an insert citation reference, the newly
> > added references do not show up. 
> > 
> > At the moment, to get around this, I have to
> delete
> > the references at the end of the page and then
> insert
> > it again before the new refernces that i have
> added to
> > the .bib file show up. 
> > 
> > Any ideas on how I can fix this problem? 
> > 
> > Thanks! 
> > 
> > Kelvin
> 
> I'm unable to reproduce this.  Perhaps more details
> would help.  Where 
> in the .bib file are you adding references
> (beginning, middle, end)?  Is 
> the document open in LyX when you add the
> references?  If you close the 
> document and reopen it (without deleting the
> references), does the 
> problem persist?  (Groping in the dark here.)
> 
> -- Paul
> 
>  

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Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Angus Leeming]

ingo frost wrote:

 hello from berlin,
 
 I have now tried two distributions (knoppix debian, and suse linux)
 and tried to install the newest lyx version and I still have
 problems to get the bibtex in my lyx document to work and I did not
 find any resuorces on the web concerning these problems, please help
 me:
 
 If I use a library style like plain lyx parses the file without
 errors but in the output are two mistakes: In the text every
 citation has a (author?) remark and in the citation index some
 titles are switched to lower case letters (this is a crucial problem
 if you have some german titles!).
 
 When I try a different style like gerplan lyx does not parse the
 file: 30 errores appeared, you should try to fix them. The errors
 all look like thisone:
 
  Undefined control sequence.
   ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
{}\ 513.
  The control sequence at the end of the top line
  of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
  misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
  spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
  and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
 
 When I try to parse these file by hand with latex and
 bibtex, there are no errors.. but I need to get them parsed by lyx!

The message above is output by the latex compiler, not by lyx. Go 
into the tmp/lyxtmp.../lyx_tmpbuf0 directory where you'll find the 
failing .tex file and try and run latex 'by hand' on it. The .log 
file should tell yo more.

 So any Idea what I can try to fix these problems???
 
 ingo

-- 
Angus

Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Herbert Voss]

ingo frost wrote:
 Undefined control sequence.
  ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
there is no definition of \btxpagelong ...
Delete this command in your bibfile or
you can try with \def\btxpagelong{}
in the preamble, but this makes only the doc run,
but doesn't solve the problem.
Herbert

--
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http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:45:24 +0200
From: ingo frost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bibtex and lyx problems

When I try a different style like gerplan lyx does not parse the file:
I guess you mean gerplain here...

30 errores appeared, you should try to fix them. The errors all look
like thisone:

 Undefined control sequence.
  ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
   {}\ 513.

You're missing a package needed by the bibtex style:

%head /usr/local/TeX/texmf/bibtex/bst/germbib/gerplain.bst
% BibTeX standard bibliography style `plain'
% version 0.99a for BibTeX versions 0.99a or later, LaTeX version 2.09.
% Copyright (C) 1985, all rights reserved.
% Copying of this file is authorized only if either
% (1) you make absolutely no changes to your copy, including name, or
% (2) if you do make changes, you name it something other than
% btxbst.doc, plain.bst, unsrt.bst, alpha.bst, and abbrv.bst.
% This restriction helps ensure that all standard styles are identical.
% The file btxbst.doc has the documentation for this style.
%   15-feb-92   (MW)Updated for use with `bibgerman.sty': things like and

Add
\usepackage{bibgerman}
in the preamble.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



something like
gerplan.sty (or gerplain.sty ?) where \btxpagelong is defined.
Check the user guide of this bst file.

Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Angus Leeming]

ingo frost wrote:

 hello from berlin,
 
 I have now tried two distributions (knoppix debian, and suse linux)
 and tried to install the newest lyx version and I still have
 problems to get the bibtex in my lyx document to work and I did not
 find any resuorces on the web concerning these problems, please help
 me:
 
 If I use a library style like plain lyx parses the file without
 errors but in the output are two mistakes: In the text every
 citation has a (author?) remark and in the citation index some
 titles are switched to lower case letters (this is a crucial problem
 if you have some german titles!).
 
 When I try a different style like gerplan lyx does not parse the
 file: 30 errores appeared, you should try to fix them. The errors
 all look like thisone:
 
  Undefined control sequence.
   ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
{}\ 513.
  The control sequence at the end of the top line
  of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
  misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
  spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
  and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
 
 When I try to parse these file by hand with latex and
 bibtex, there are no errors.. but I need to get them parsed by lyx!

The message above is output by the latex compiler, not by lyx. Go 
into the tmp/lyxtmp.../lyx_tmpbuf0 directory where you'll find the 
failing .tex file and try and run latex 'by hand' on it. The .log 
file should tell yo more.

 So any Idea what I can try to fix these problems???
 
 ingo

-- 
Angus

Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Herbert Voss]

ingo frost wrote:
 Undefined control sequence.
  ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
there is no definition of \btxpagelong ...
Delete this command in your bibfile or
you can try with \def\btxpagelong{}
in the preamble, but this makes only the doc run,
but doesn't solve the problem.
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:45:24 +0200
From: ingo frost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bibtex and lyx problems

When I try a different style like gerplan lyx does not parse the file:
I guess you mean gerplain here...

30 errores appeared, you should try to fix them. The errors all look
like thisone:

 Undefined control sequence.
  ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
   {}\ 513.

You're missing a package needed by the bibtex style:

%head /usr/local/TeX/texmf/bibtex/bst/germbib/gerplain.bst
% BibTeX standard bibliography style `plain'
% version 0.99a for BibTeX versions 0.99a or later, LaTeX version 2.09.
% Copyright (C) 1985, all rights reserved.
% Copying of this file is authorized only if either
% (1) you make absolutely no changes to your copy, including name, or
% (2) if you do make changes, you name it something other than
% btxbst.doc, plain.bst, unsrt.bst, alpha.bst, and abbrv.bst.
% This restriction helps ensure that all standard styles are identical.
% The file btxbst.doc has the documentation for this style.
%   15-feb-92   (MW)Updated for use with `bibgerman.sty': things like and

Add
\usepackage{bibgerman}
in the preamble.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



something like
gerplan.sty (or gerplain.sty ?) where \btxpagelong is defined.
Check the user guide of this bst file.

Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Angus Leeming]

ingo frost wrote:

> hello from berlin,
> 
> I have now tried two distributions (knoppix debian, and suse linux)
> and tried to install the newest lyx version and I still have
> problems to get the bibtex in my lyx document to work and I did not
> find any resuorces on the web concerning these problems, please help
> me:
> 
> If I use a library style like "plain" lyx parses the file without
> errors but in the output are two mistakes: In the text every
> citation has a (author?) remark and in the citation index some
> titles are switched to lower case letters (this is a crucial problem
> if you have some german titles!).
> 
> When I try a different style like "gerplan" lyx does not parse the
> file: "30 errores appeared, you should try to fix them". The errors
> all look like thisone:
> 
>  >Undefined control sequence.
>  > ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
>  >  {}\ 513.
>  >The control sequence at the end of the top line
>  >of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
>  >misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
>  >spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
>  >and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
> 
> When I try to parse these file by hand with latex and
> bibtex, there are no errors.. but I need to get them parsed by lyx!

The message above is output by the latex compiler, not by lyx. Go 
into the tmp/lyxtmp.../lyx_tmpbuf0 directory where you'll find the 
failing .tex file and try and run latex 'by hand' on it. The .log 
file should tell yo more.

> So any Idea what I can try to fix these problems???
> 
> ingo

-- 
Angus

Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Herbert Voss]

ingo frost wrote:
 >Undefined control sequence.
 > ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
there is no definition of \btxpagelong ...
Delete this command in your bibfile or
you can try with \def\btxpagelong{}
in the preamble, but this makes only the doc run,
but doesn't solve the problem.
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

Re: bibtex and lyx problems

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

>>Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:45:24 +0200
>>From: ingo frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: bibtex and lyx problems
>
>>When I try a different style like "gerplan" lyx does not parse the file:
I guess you mean gerplain here...

>>"30 errores appeared, you should try to fix them". The errors all look
>>like thisone:
>>
>> >Undefined control sequence.
>> > ...pbell, Ingo}: {\em Biologie}, \btxpagelong
>> >  {}\ 513.

You're missing a package needed by the bibtex style:

%head /usr/local/TeX/texmf/bibtex/bst/germbib/gerplain.bst
% BibTeX standard bibliography style `plain'
% version 0.99a for BibTeX versions 0.99a or later, LaTeX version 2.09.
% Copyright (C) 1985, all rights reserved.
% Copying of this file is authorized only if either
% (1) you make absolutely no changes to your copy, including name, or
% (2) if you do make changes, you name it something other than
% btxbst.doc, plain.bst, unsrt.bst, alpha.bst, and abbrv.bst.
% This restriction helps ensure that all standard styles are identical.
% The file btxbst.doc has the documentation for this style.
%   15-feb-92   (MW)Updated for use with `bibgerman.sty': things like "and"

Add
\usepackage{bibgerman}
in the preamble.

-- 
Jean-Pierre



something like
gerplan.sty (or gerplain.sty ?) where \btxpagelong is defined.
Check the user guide of this bst file.

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.

Hack the bst file. A quick solution (untested): create a bst file with 
custom-bib where you chose smallcaps for the names. Then change the function

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$  }
{ {\sc  swap$ * } * }
  if$
}
to
FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$  }
   { \MakeUppercase{ swap$ * } * }
  if$
}
HTH,
Jürgen
 Jürgen,
Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it 
capitalizes the and connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal 
capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction sigh.

-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it
 capitalizes the and connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal
 capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction sigh

Search for the Function bbl.and and try a MakeLowercase

FUNCTION {bbl.and}
{  \MakeLowercase{and} }

or so.

Jürgen.

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Mike Barnsley wrote:
Paul,
I think you've got two possible options. The first is to define your own 
BibTeX style file using makebst, which is run as follows

tex makebst
then answer the relevant questions. I'm not 100% positive, but I think that 
one of these may allow you to specify uppercase names in the list of 
references.
Unfortunately, no, it's not an option.
The other option, which is a bit clunkier, is to edit the .bst file that 
you're using. If you look in your chosen .bst file you should see a section 
which looks like

FUNCTION {format.authors}
{ author empty$
{  }
{
  author format.names scaps
}
  if$
}
The example above outputs the authors names in small caps, but you can change 
this by replacing 'scaps' with 'uppercase', i.e.

  author format.names uppercase
You'll then need to add a new function to the same file, e.g.
FUNCTION {uppercase}
{ u change.case$ } 

This converts a string completely to uppercase. There's probably a much more 
elegant way of doing this, I'm far from being a BibTeX expert, but this 
should do the trick prior to your deadline.

Good luck,
Mike

Thanks for the suggestion, Mike.  I tried it, but nothing changed.  Very 
confusing.

-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it
capitalizes the and connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal
capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction sigh

Search for the Function bbl.and and try a MakeLowercase
FUNCTION {bbl.and}
{  \MakeLowercase{and} }
or so.
Jürgen.
Vielen Danke!  That did the trick.\
-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.

Hack the bst file. A quick solution (untested): create a bst file with 
custom-bib where you chose smallcaps for the names. Then change the function

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$  }
{ {\sc  swap$ * } * }
  if$
}
to
FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$  }
   { \MakeUppercase{ swap$ * } * }
  if$
}
HTH,
Jürgen
 Jürgen,
Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it 
capitalizes the and connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal 
capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction sigh.

-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it
 capitalizes the and connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal
 capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction sigh

Search for the Function bbl.and and try a MakeLowercase

FUNCTION {bbl.and}
{  \MakeLowercase{and} }

or so.

Jürgen.

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Mike Barnsley wrote:
Paul,
I think you've got two possible options. The first is to define your own 
BibTeX style file using makebst, which is run as follows

tex makebst
then answer the relevant questions. I'm not 100% positive, but I think that 
one of these may allow you to specify uppercase names in the list of 
references.
Unfortunately, no, it's not an option.
The other option, which is a bit clunkier, is to edit the .bst file that 
you're using. If you look in your chosen .bst file you should see a section 
which looks like

FUNCTION {format.authors}
{ author empty$
{  }
{
  author format.names scaps
}
  if$
}
The example above outputs the authors names in small caps, but you can change 
this by replacing 'scaps' with 'uppercase', i.e.

  author format.names uppercase
You'll then need to add a new function to the same file, e.g.
FUNCTION {uppercase}
{ u change.case$ } 

This converts a string completely to uppercase. There's probably a much more 
elegant way of doing this, I'm far from being a BibTeX expert, but this 
should do the trick prior to your deadline.

Good luck,
Mike

Thanks for the suggestion, Mike.  I tried it, but nothing changed.  Very 
confusing.

-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it
capitalizes the and connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal
capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction sigh

Search for the Function bbl.and and try a MakeLowercase
FUNCTION {bbl.and}
{  \MakeLowercase{and} }
or so.
Jürgen.
Vielen Danke!  That did the trick.\
-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.

Hack the bst file. A quick solution (untested): create a bst file with 
custom-bib where you chose smallcaps for the names. Then change the function

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$ "" }
{ "{\sc " swap$ * "}" * }
  if$
}
to
FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$ "" }
   { "\MakeUppercase{" swap$ * "}" * }
  if$
}
HTH,
Jürgen
 Jürgen,
Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it 
capitalizes the "and" connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal 
capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction .

-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it
> capitalizes the "and" connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal
> capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction 

Search for the Function bbl.and and try a MakeLowercase

FUNCTION {bbl.and}
{  \MakeLowercase{and} }

or so.

Jürgen.

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Mike Barnsley wrote:
Paul,
I think you've got two possible options. The first is to define your own 
BibTeX style file using makebst, which is run as follows

tex makebst
then answer the relevant questions. I'm not 100% positive, but I think that 
one of these may allow you to specify uppercase names in the list of 
references.
Unfortunately, no, it's not an option.
The other option, which is a bit clunkier, is to edit the .bst file that 
you're using. If you look in your chosen .bst file you should see a section 
which looks like

FUNCTION {format.authors}
{ author empty$
{ "" }
{
  author format.names scaps
}
  if$
}
The example above outputs the authors names in small caps, but you can change 
this by replacing 'scaps' with 'uppercase', i.e.

  author format.names uppercase
You'll then need to add a new function to the same file, e.g.
FUNCTION {uppercase}
{ "u" change.case$ } 

This converts a string completely to uppercase. There's probably a much more 
elegant way of doing this, I'm far from being a BibTeX expert, but this 
should do the trick prior to your deadline.

Good luck,
Mike

Thanks for the suggestion, Mike.  I tried it, but nothing changed.  Very 
confusing.

-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Paul A. Rubin]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Thanks much.  This *almost* works.  The only problem is that it
capitalizes the "and" connecting multiple authors, whereas the journal
capitalizes the authors' names but not the conjunction 

Search for the Function bbl.and and try a MakeLowercase
FUNCTION {bbl.and}
{  \MakeLowercase{and} }
or so.
Jürgen.
Vielen Danke!  That did the trick.\
-- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
 docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
 find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.

Hack the bst file. A quick solution (untested): create a bst file with 
custom-bib where you chose smallcaps for the names. Then change the function

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$  }
{ {\sc  swap$ * } * }
  if$
}

to

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$  }
   { \MakeUppercase{ swap$ * } * }
  if$
}

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Mike Barnsley]

Paul,

I think you've got two possible options. The first is to define your own 
BibTeX style file using makebst, which is run as follows

tex makebst

then answer the relevant questions. I'm not 100% positive, but I think that 
one of these may allow you to specify uppercase names in the list of 
references.

The other option, which is a bit clunkier, is to edit the .bst file that 
you're using. If you look in your chosen .bst file you should see a section 
which looks like

FUNCTION {format.authors}
{ author empty$
{  }
{
  author format.names scaps
}
  if$
}

The example above outputs the authors names in small caps, but you can change 
this by replacing 'scaps' with 'uppercase', i.e.

  author format.names uppercase

You'll then need to add a new function to the same file, e.g.

FUNCTION {uppercase}
{ u change.case$ } 

This converts a string completely to uppercase. There's probably a much more 
elegant way of doing this, I'm far from being a BibTeX expert, but this 
should do the trick prior to your deadline.

Good luck,

Mike

 Sorry for a non-LyX question here, but I'm a bit hard up.  I've posted
 this to comp.text.tex but don't know when (if) I'll get a response, and
 I'm facing something of a deadline.

 I have a paper (written with LyX, of course) ready to ship to a journal.
   The catch is that they want authors' names in the usual mixed case in
 citation but all in uppercase (*not* small caps, by the way) in the
 bibliography.  In other words, something like

 (Howard, M., Fine, L. and Howard, C. 1950) in the text but

 HOWARD, M., FINE, L., and HOWARD, C. (1950)

 in the bibliography.

 The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
 docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
 find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.  Of
 course, I can retype the database with author names capitalized, but
 then they're uppercase in the text, which is wrong.

 Short of abandoning BiBTeX and typing in the references the
 old-fashioned way, can this be done?

 Thanks,

 -- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
 docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
 find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.

Hack the bst file. A quick solution (untested): create a bst file with 
custom-bib where you chose smallcaps for the names. Then change the function

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$  }
{ {\sc  swap$ * } * }
  if$
}

to

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$  }
   { \MakeUppercase{ swap$ * } * }
  if$
}

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Mike Barnsley]

Paul,

I think you've got two possible options. The first is to define your own 
BibTeX style file using makebst, which is run as follows

tex makebst

then answer the relevant questions. I'm not 100% positive, but I think that 
one of these may allow you to specify uppercase names in the list of 
references.

The other option, which is a bit clunkier, is to edit the .bst file that 
you're using. If you look in your chosen .bst file you should see a section 
which looks like

FUNCTION {format.authors}
{ author empty$
{  }
{
  author format.names scaps
}
  if$
}

The example above outputs the authors names in small caps, but you can change 
this by replacing 'scaps' with 'uppercase', i.e.

  author format.names uppercase

You'll then need to add a new function to the same file, e.g.

FUNCTION {uppercase}
{ u change.case$ } 

This converts a string completely to uppercase. There's probably a much more 
elegant way of doing this, I'm far from being a BibTeX expert, but this 
should do the trick prior to your deadline.

Good luck,

Mike

 Sorry for a non-LyX question here, but I'm a bit hard up.  I've posted
 this to comp.text.tex but don't know when (if) I'll get a response, and
 I'm facing something of a deadline.

 I have a paper (written with LyX, of course) ready to ship to a journal.
   The catch is that they want authors' names in the usual mixed case in
 citation but all in uppercase (*not* small caps, by the way) in the
 bibliography.  In other words, something like

 (Howard, M., Fine, L. and Howard, C. 1950) in the text but

 HOWARD, M., FINE, L., and HOWARD, C. (1950)

 in the bibliography.

 The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
 docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
 find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.  Of
 course, I can retype the database with author names capitalized, but
 then they're uppercase in the text, which is wrong.

 Short of abandoning BiBTeX and typing in the references the
 old-fashioned way, can this be done?

 Thanks,

 -- Paul

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
> docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
> find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.

Hack the bst file. A quick solution (untested): create a bst file with 
custom-bib where you chose smallcaps for the names. Then change the function

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$ "" }
{ "{\sc " swap$ * "}" * }
  if$
}

to

FUNCTION {scaps}
{ duplicate$ empty$
{ pop$ "" }
   { "\MakeUppercase{" swap$ * "}" * }
  if$
}

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: BiBTeX (non-LyX) question

[Mike Barnsley]

Paul,

I think you've got two possible options. The first is to define your own 
BibTeX style file using makebst, which is run as follows

tex makebst

then answer the relevant questions. I'm not 100% positive, but I think that 
one of these may allow you to specify uppercase names in the list of 
references.

The other option, which is a bit clunkier, is to edit the .bst file that 
you're using. If you look in your chosen .bst file you should see a section 
which looks like

FUNCTION {format.authors}
{ author empty$
{ "" }
{
  author format.names scaps
}
  if$
}

The example above outputs the authors names in small caps, but you can change 
this by replacing 'scaps' with 'uppercase', i.e.

  author format.names uppercase

You'll then need to add a new function to the same file, e.g.

FUNCTION {uppercase}
{ "u" change.case$ } 

This converts a string completely to uppercase. There's probably a much more 
elegant way of doing this, I'm far from being a BibTeX expert, but this 
should do the trick prior to your deadline.

Good luck,

Mike

> Sorry for a non-LyX question here, but I'm a bit hard up.  I've posted
> this to comp.text.tex but don't know when (if) I'll get a response, and
> I'm facing something of a deadline.
>
> I have a paper (written with LyX, of course) ready to ship to a journal.
>   The catch is that they want authors' names in the usual mixed case in
> citation but all in uppercase (*not* small caps, by the way) in the
> bibliography.  In other words, something like
>
> (Howard, M., Fine, L. and Howard, C. 1950) in the text but
>
> HOWARD, M., FINE, L., and HOWARD, C. (1950)
>
> in the bibliography.
>
> The BiBTeX database has the names in mixed case, and after reading all
> docs I could find and Googling both the web and comp.text.tex, I can't
> find a trick to switch them to uppercase in the bibliography.  Of
> course, I can retype the database with author names capitalized, but
> then they're uppercase in the text, which is wrong.
>
> Short of abandoning BiBTeX and typing in the references the
> old-fashioned way, can this be done?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- Paul

Re: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

Think I fixed it. The class file specified the style file and then could not 
find it. Then Lyx tried to specify the style file and I dont think it liked 
that at all! I commented out the line in the class file and things seem to be 
working now! I debuged this from my linux machine by starting on the command 
line. 

On Friday 17 October 2003 02:48 pm, Jim Ragsdale wrote:
 No I don't think it is the style. I changed the style file from plain to
 another and it works. I am using a msuthesis.cls (written by a CS professor
 at our school) for my thesis and if I change the LayoutDocumentDocument
 Class to msuthesis instead of article Bibtex stops working. I am going to
 dig through the class file to see if there is something in there that may
 be messing Lyx up, but I really don't know what I'm doing :)

  -Original Message-
  From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:40 PM
  To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
  Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx
 
 
  your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
  pointed out with gerplain.
  Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
  gerplain) to tex.
  run latex once
  run bibtex
  run latex twice (error messages, forget it)
 
  I got a dvi file out of that.
 
  So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
  the biography using the style you really want.
 
  If you find another workaround, please report it
 
  Cheers,
  J.
 
  Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
   I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the
 
  new spot for
 
   the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the
 
  problem down
 
   to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class
 
  incuded w/ Lyx.
 
   Thanks,
   Jim Ragsdale

Re: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

Think I fixed it. The class file specified the style file and then could not 
find it. Then Lyx tried to specify the style file and I dont think it liked 
that at all! I commented out the line in the class file and things seem to be 
working now! I debuged this from my linux machine by starting on the command 
line. 

On Friday 17 October 2003 02:48 pm, Jim Ragsdale wrote:
 No I don't think it is the style. I changed the style file from plain to
 another and it works. I am using a msuthesis.cls (written by a CS professor
 at our school) for my thesis and if I change the LayoutDocumentDocument
 Class to msuthesis instead of article Bibtex stops working. I am going to
 dig through the class file to see if there is something in there that may
 be messing Lyx up, but I really don't know what I'm doing :)

  -Original Message-
  From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:40 PM
  To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
  Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx
 
 
  your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
  pointed out with gerplain.
  Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
  gerplain) to tex.
  run latex once
  run bibtex
  run latex twice (error messages, forget it)
 
  I got a dvi file out of that.
 
  So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
  the biography using the style you really want.
 
  If you find another workaround, please report it
 
  Cheers,
  J.
 
  Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
   I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the
 
  new spot for
 
   the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the
 
  problem down
 
   to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class
 
  incuded w/ Lyx.
 
   Thanks,
   Jim Ragsdale

Re: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

Think I fixed it. The class file specified the style file and then could not 
find it. Then Lyx tried to specify the style file and I dont think it liked 
that at all! I commented out the line in the class file and things seem to be 
working now! I debuged this from my linux machine by starting on the command 
line. 

On Friday 17 October 2003 02:48 pm, Jim Ragsdale wrote:
> No I don't think it is the style. I changed the style file from plain to
> another and it works. I am using a msuthesis.cls (written by a CS professor
> at our school) for my thesis and if I change the Layout>Document>Document
> Class to msuthesis instead of article Bibtex stops working. I am going to
> dig through the class file to see if there is something in there that may
> be messing Lyx up, but I really don't know what I'm doing :)
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:40 PM
> > To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx
> >
> >
> > your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
> > pointed out with gerplain.
> > Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
> > gerplain) to tex.
> > run latex once
> > run bibtex
> > run latex twice (error messages, forget it)
> >
> > I got a dvi file out of that.
> >
> > So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
> > the biography using the style you really want.
> >
> > If you find another workaround, please report it
> >
> > Cheers,
> > J.
> >
> > Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
> > > I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the
> >
> > new spot for
> >
> > > the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the
> >
> > problem down
> >
> > > to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class
> >
> > incuded w/ Lyx.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jim Ragsdale

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document Layout. It will
not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
References section. I am wondering if the class may have redefined something
Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Ragsdale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 9:24 AM
 To: Lyx-Users
 Subject: bibtex in Lyx


 I am using Lyx 1.3.2 on windows.
 I am trying to get bibtex to work with lyx. I used BibDB for windows to
 generate the bib file(Nice program). In a new file, I can insert
 the bibtex
 reference at the end of the document and then insert a citation
 in the text
 and it will list the references in the bib that I can select. I can then
 view this file in dvi with no problems. If I put it in my thesis
 document, I
 can still see the list of sources to choose from when I insert a citation,
 but when I vew the dvi, I get an error like this:
 LaTeX Warning: Citation `Ahlborn91' on page 2 undefined on input line 165.
I included the log file in case anyone needs it.

 Thanks for any help,
 Jim Ragsdale





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RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jerome Schretter]

Hi

It works for me. However I had problems using gerplain as a biography
style. Using plain, it works well from within LyX. I ought to check
this further.

I am including a copy of the test file. Try it out and report if you
have some problems otherwise reproduce these steps to insert a bibfile:
insert the bib file through Insert-list and contents-bibfile
then use cite as usual.

I noticed, one reference looks rather strange: [3,
4]: it is split on two lines. with no possibility---at least that I know
of---to remediate to this if not inserting a latex command instead.

Hope it helps.

Cheers,
J.

Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 20.10 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
 I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document Layout. It will
 not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
 References section. I am wondering if the class may have redefined something
 Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.

#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass article
\language german
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 11
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language german
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Standard
\align center 

\begin_inset ERT
status Open

\layout Standard

\backslash 
Large{Anstatt eines Vorworts}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

Dies ist ein kurzer Text, der dafr da ist um ein Paar Referenzen auf Literaturs
tellen zu machen.
 Wir verwenden dabei das Programm Bib
\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard
{
\backslash 
TeX}
\end_inset 

\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{patashnik:bibtex,patashnik:bibhax}

\end_inset 

.
 Ansonsten ist der Text fr diesen Artikel mit 
\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
LaTeX{}
\end_inset 

\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{knuth:tex}

\end_inset 

 formatiert worden.
 Wrden wir diesen Text in Franzsisch schreiben und nach franzsischer
 Art zitieren wollen, biete es sich an das Paket von Dsarmnien\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{des:tex}

\end_inset 

 zu verwenden.
\layout Standard


\begin_inset LatexCommand \BibTeX[plain]{/home/jerome/Office/LyX/test-bib/test-bib}

\end_inset 


\the_end
%% Diese Literaturliste wurde aus der Distribution von gatech-thesis entnommen
%%
@BOOK{knuth:tex,
	AUTHOR = Donald E. Knuth,
	TITLE = The {\TeX} Book,
	PUBLISHER = {Addison-Wesley},
	YEAR = 1984,
	ADDRESS = {Reading, Massachusetts},
	NOTE = {Reprinted as Vol. A of {\it Computers \ Typesetting\/}, 1986}
}

@BOOK{knuth:pgm,
	AUTHOR = Donald E. Knuth,
	TITLE = {\TeX}: The Program,
	PUBLISHER = {Addison-Wesley},
	YEAR = 1986,
	VOLUME = {B},
	SERIES = {Computers \ Typesetting},
	ADDRESS = {Reading, Massachusetts}
}
@TECHREPORT{des:tex,
	AUTHOR = {Jacques D{\'e}sarm{\'e}nien},
	TITLE = {How to Run {\TeX} in French},
	INSTITUTION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	YEAR = {1984},
	NUMBER = {SATN-CS-1013},
	ADDRESS = {Stanford, California},
	MONTH = Aug
}
@MANUAL{patashnik:bibtex,
	TITLE = Bib{\TeX}ing,
	AUTHOR = Oren Patashnik,
	ORGANIZATION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	ADDRESS = {Stanford, California},
	MONTH = jan,
	YEAR = 1988,
	NOTE = {Available in the Bib{\TeX} release}
}

@MANUAL{patashnik:bibhax,
	TITLE = {Designing Bib{\TeX} Styles},
	AUTHOR = {Oren Patashnik},
	ORGANIZATION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	MONTH = jan,
	YEAR = {1988}
}

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the new spot for
the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the problem down
to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class incuded w/ Lyx.

Thanks,
Jim Ragsdale

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:10 PM
 To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx


 Hi

 It works for me. However I had problems using gerplain as a biography
 style. Using plain, it works well from within LyX. I ought to check
 this further.

 I am including a copy of the test file. Try it out and report if you
 have some problems otherwise reproduce these steps to insert a bibfile:
 insert the bib file through Insert-list and contents-bibfile
 then use cite as usual.

 I noticed, one reference looks rather strange: [3,
 4]: it is split on two lines. with no possibility---at least that I know
 of---to remediate to this if not inserting a latex command instead.

 Hope it helps.

 Cheers,
 J.

 Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 20.10 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
  I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document
 Layout. It will
  not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
  References section. I am wondering if the class may have
 redefined something
  Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jerome Schretter]

your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
pointed out with gerplain.
Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
gerplain) to tex.
run latex once
run bibtex
run latex twice (error messages, forget it)

I got a dvi file out of that.

So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
the biography using the style you really want.

If you find another workaround, please report it

Cheers,
J.

Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
 I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the new spot for
 the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the problem down
 to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class incuded w/ Lyx.
 
 Thanks,
 Jim Ragsdale

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

No I don't think it is the style. I changed the style file from plain to
another and it works. I am using a msuthesis.cls (written by a CS professor
at our school) for my thesis and if I change the LayoutDocumentDocument
Class to msuthesis instead of article Bibtex stops working. I am going to
dig through the class file to see if there is something in there that may be
messing Lyx up, but I really don't know what I'm doing :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:40 PM
 To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx


 your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
 pointed out with gerplain.
 Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
 gerplain) to tex.
 run latex once
 run bibtex
 run latex twice (error messages, forget it)

 I got a dvi file out of that.

 So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
 the biography using the style you really want.

 If you find another workaround, please report it

 Cheers,
 J.

 Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
  I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the
 new spot for
  the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the
 problem down
  to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class
 incuded w/ Lyx.
 
  Thanks,
  Jim Ragsdale

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document Layout. It will
not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
References section. I am wondering if the class may have redefined something
Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Ragsdale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 9:24 AM
 To: Lyx-Users
 Subject: bibtex in Lyx


 I am using Lyx 1.3.2 on windows.
 I am trying to get bibtex to work with lyx. I used BibDB for windows to
 generate the bib file(Nice program). In a new file, I can insert
 the bibtex
 reference at the end of the document and then insert a citation
 in the text
 and it will list the references in the bib that I can select. I can then
 view this file in dvi with no problems. If I put it in my thesis
 document, I
 can still see the list of sources to choose from when I insert a citation,
 but when I vew the dvi, I get an error like this:
 LaTeX Warning: Citation `Ahlborn91' on page 2 undefined on input line 165.
I included the log file in case anyone needs it.

 Thanks for any help,
 Jim Ragsdale





 This is TeX, Version 3.141592 (MiKTeX 2.3) (preloaded format=latex
 2000.11.28)  17 OCT 2003 09:12

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RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jerome Schretter]

Hi

It works for me. However I had problems using gerplain as a biography
style. Using plain, it works well from within LyX. I ought to check
this further.

I am including a copy of the test file. Try it out and report if you
have some problems otherwise reproduce these steps to insert a bibfile:
insert the bib file through Insert-list and contents-bibfile
then use cite as usual.

I noticed, one reference looks rather strange: [3,
4]: it is split on two lines. with no possibility---at least that I know
of---to remediate to this if not inserting a latex command instead.

Hope it helps.

Cheers,
J.

Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 20.10 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
 I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document Layout. It will
 not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
 References section. I am wondering if the class may have redefined something
 Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.

#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass article
\language german
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 11
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language german
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Standard
\align center 

\begin_inset ERT
status Open

\layout Standard

\backslash 
Large{Anstatt eines Vorworts}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

Dies ist ein kurzer Text, der dafr da ist um ein Paar Referenzen auf Literaturs
tellen zu machen.
 Wir verwenden dabei das Programm Bib
\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard
{
\backslash 
TeX}
\end_inset 

\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{patashnik:bibtex,patashnik:bibhax}

\end_inset 

.
 Ansonsten ist der Text fr diesen Artikel mit 
\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
LaTeX{}
\end_inset 

\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{knuth:tex}

\end_inset 

 formatiert worden.
 Wrden wir diesen Text in Franzsisch schreiben und nach franzsischer
 Art zitieren wollen, biete es sich an das Paket von Dsarmnien\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{des:tex}

\end_inset 

 zu verwenden.
\layout Standard


\begin_inset LatexCommand \BibTeX[plain]{/home/jerome/Office/LyX/test-bib/test-bib}

\end_inset 


\the_end
%% Diese Literaturliste wurde aus der Distribution von gatech-thesis entnommen
%%
@BOOK{knuth:tex,
	AUTHOR = Donald E. Knuth,
	TITLE = The {\TeX} Book,
	PUBLISHER = {Addison-Wesley},
	YEAR = 1984,
	ADDRESS = {Reading, Massachusetts},
	NOTE = {Reprinted as Vol. A of {\it Computers \ Typesetting\/}, 1986}
}

@BOOK{knuth:pgm,
	AUTHOR = Donald E. Knuth,
	TITLE = {\TeX}: The Program,
	PUBLISHER = {Addison-Wesley},
	YEAR = 1986,
	VOLUME = {B},
	SERIES = {Computers \ Typesetting},
	ADDRESS = {Reading, Massachusetts}
}
@TECHREPORT{des:tex,
	AUTHOR = {Jacques D{\'e}sarm{\'e}nien},
	TITLE = {How to Run {\TeX} in French},
	INSTITUTION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	YEAR = {1984},
	NUMBER = {SATN-CS-1013},
	ADDRESS = {Stanford, California},
	MONTH = Aug
}
@MANUAL{patashnik:bibtex,
	TITLE = Bib{\TeX}ing,
	AUTHOR = Oren Patashnik,
	ORGANIZATION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	ADDRESS = {Stanford, California},
	MONTH = jan,
	YEAR = 1988,
	NOTE = {Available in the Bib{\TeX} release}
}

@MANUAL{patashnik:bibhax,
	TITLE = {Designing Bib{\TeX} Styles},
	AUTHOR = {Oren Patashnik},
	ORGANIZATION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	MONTH = jan,
	YEAR = {1988}
}

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the new spot for
the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the problem down
to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class incuded w/ Lyx.

Thanks,
Jim Ragsdale

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:10 PM
 To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx


 Hi

 It works for me. However I had problems using gerplain as a biography
 style. Using plain, it works well from within LyX. I ought to check
 this further.

 I am including a copy of the test file. Try it out and report if you
 have some problems otherwise reproduce these steps to insert a bibfile:
 insert the bib file through Insert-list and contents-bibfile
 then use cite as usual.

 I noticed, one reference looks rather strange: [3,
 4]: it is split on two lines. with no possibility---at least that I know
 of---to remediate to this if not inserting a latex command instead.

 Hope it helps.

 Cheers,
 J.

 Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 20.10 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
  I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document
 Layout. It will
  not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
  References section. I am wondering if the class may have
 redefined something
  Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jerome Schretter]

your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
pointed out with gerplain.
Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
gerplain) to tex.
run latex once
run bibtex
run latex twice (error messages, forget it)

I got a dvi file out of that.

So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
the biography using the style you really want.

If you find another workaround, please report it

Cheers,
J.

Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
 I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the new spot for
 the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the problem down
 to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class incuded w/ Lyx.
 
 Thanks,
 Jim Ragsdale

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

No I don't think it is the style. I changed the style file from plain to
another and it works. I am using a msuthesis.cls (written by a CS professor
at our school) for my thesis and if I change the LayoutDocumentDocument
Class to msuthesis instead of article Bibtex stops working. I am going to
dig through the class file to see if there is something in there that may be
messing Lyx up, but I really don't know what I'm doing :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:40 PM
 To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
 Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx


 your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
 pointed out with gerplain.
 Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
 gerplain) to tex.
 run latex once
 run bibtex
 run latex twice (error messages, forget it)

 I got a dvi file out of that.

 So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
 the biography using the style you really want.

 If you find another workaround, please report it

 Cheers,
 J.

 Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
  I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the
 new spot for
  the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the
 problem down
  to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class
 incuded w/ Lyx.
 
  Thanks,
  Jim Ragsdale

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document Layout. It will
not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
References section. I am wondering if the class may have redefined something
Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Ragsdale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 9:24 AM
> To: Lyx-Users
> Subject: bibtex in Lyx
>
>
> I am using Lyx 1.3.2 on windows.
> I am trying to get bibtex to work with lyx. I used BibDB for windows to
> generate the bib file(Nice program). In a new file, I can insert
> the bibtex
> reference at the end of the document and then insert a citation
> in the text
> and it will list the references in the bib that I can select. I can then
> view this file in dvi with no problems. If I put it in my thesis
> document, I
> can still see the list of sources to choose from when I insert a citation,
> but when I vew the dvi, I get an error like this:
> LaTeX Warning: Citation `Ahlborn91' on page 2 undefined on input line 165.
>I included the log file in case anyone needs it.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Jim Ragsdale
>
>
>
>
>
> This is TeX, Version 3.141592 (MiKTeX 2.3) (preloaded format=latex
> 2000.11.28)  17 OCT 2003 09:12
>
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> LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
>
> Babel  and hyphenation patterns for english, french,
> german, ngerman,
> du
>
> mylang, nohyphenation, loaded.
>
>
>
>
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> Document Class: msuthesis 2002/02/22 MSU thesis class
> (C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\book.cls
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RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jerome Schretter]

Hi

It works for me. However I had problems using "gerplain" as a biography
style. Using "plain", it works well from within LyX. I ought to check
this further.

I am including a copy of the test file. Try it out and report if you
have some problems otherwise reproduce these steps to insert a bibfile:
insert the bib file through Insert->list and contents->bibfile
then use cite as usual.

I noticed, one reference looks rather strange: [3,
4]: it is split on two lines. with no possibility---at least that I know
of---to remediate to this if not inserting a latex command instead.

Hope it helps.

Cheers,
J.

Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 20.10 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
> I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document Layout. It will
> not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
> References section. I am wondering if the class may have redefined something
> Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.

#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass article
\language german
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 11
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language german
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Standard
\align center 

\begin_inset ERT
status Open

\layout Standard

\backslash 
Large{Anstatt eines Vorworts}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

Dies ist ein kurzer Text, der dafür da ist um ein Paar Referenzen auf Literaturs
tellen zu machen.
 Wir verwenden dabei das Programm Bib
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\layout Standard
{
\backslash 
TeX}
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\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{patashnik:bibtex,patashnik:bibhax}

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.
 Ansonsten ist der Text für diesen Artikel mit 
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status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
LaTeX{}
\end_inset 

\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{knuth:tex}

\end_inset 

 formatiert worden.
 Würden wir diesen Text in Französisch schreiben und nach französischer
 Art zitieren wollen, biete es sich an das Paket von Désarménien\SpecialChar ~

\begin_inset LatexCommand \cite{des:tex}

\end_inset 

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\begin_inset LatexCommand \BibTeX[plain]{/home/jerome/Office/LyX/test-bib/test-bib}

\end_inset 


\the_end
%% Diese Literaturliste wurde aus der Distribution von gatech-thesis entnommen
%%
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	AUTHOR = "Donald E. Knuth",
	TITLE = "The {\TeX} Book",
	PUBLISHER = {Addison-Wesley},
	YEAR = "1984",
	ADDRESS = {Reading, Massachusetts},
	NOTE = {Reprinted as Vol. A of {\it Computers \& Typesetting\/}, 1986}
}

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	AUTHOR = "Donald E. Knuth",
	TITLE = "{\TeX}: The Program",
	PUBLISHER = {Addison-Wesley},
	YEAR = "1986",
	VOLUME = {B},
	SERIES = {Computers \& Typesetting},
	ADDRESS = {Reading, Massachusetts}
}
@TECHREPORT{des:tex,
	AUTHOR = {Jacques D{\'e}sarm{\'e}nien},
	TITLE = {How to Run {\TeX} in French},
	INSTITUTION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	YEAR = {1984},
	NUMBER = {SATN-CS-1013},
	ADDRESS = {Stanford, California},
	MONTH = Aug
}
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	TITLE = "Bib{\TeX}ing",
	AUTHOR = "Oren Patashnik",
	ORGANIZATION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	ADDRESS = {Stanford, California},
	MONTH = jan,
	YEAR = "1988",
	NOTE = {Available in the Bib{\TeX} release}
}

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	TITLE = {Designing Bib{\TeX} Styles},
	AUTHOR = {Oren Patashnik},
	ORGANIZATION = {Computer Science Department, Stanford University},
	MONTH = jan,
	YEAR = {1988}
}

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the new spot for
the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the problem down
to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class incuded w/ Lyx.

Thanks,
Jim Ragsdale

> -Original Message-
> From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx
>
>
> Hi
>
> It works for me. However I had problems using "gerplain" as a biography
> style. Using "plain", it works well from within LyX. I ought to check
> this further.
>
> I am including a copy of the test file. Try it out and report if you
> have some problems otherwise reproduce these steps to insert a bibfile:
> insert the bib file through Insert->list and contents->bibfile
> then use cite as usual.
>
> I noticed, one reference looks rather strange: [3,
> 4]: it is split on two lines. with no possibility---at least that I know
> of---to remediate to this if not inserting a latex command instead.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> Cheers,
> J.
>
> Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 20.10 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
> > I made a new file using my thesis class file in the document
> Layout. It will
> > not pick up the reference. It just had a [?] at the citation and no
> > References section. I am wondering if the class may have
> redefined something
> > Lyx needs? It works properly if I use the article class.
>
>

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jerome Schretter]

your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
pointed out with gerplain.
Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
gerplain) to tex.
run latex once
run bibtex
run latex twice (error messages, forget it)

I got a dvi file out of that.

So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
the biography using the style you really want.

If you find another workaround, please report it

Cheers,
J.

Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
> I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the new spot for
> the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the problem down
> to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class incuded w/ Lyx.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim Ragsdale

RE: bibtex in Lyx

[Jim Ragsdale]

No I don't think it is the style. I changed the style file from plain to
another and it works. I am using a msuthesis.cls (written by a CS professor
at our school) for my thesis and if I change the Layout>Document>Document
Class to msuthesis instead of article Bibtex stops working. I am going to
dig through the class file to see if there is something in there that may be
messing Lyx up, but I really don't know what I'm doing :)

> -Original Message-
> From: Jerome Schretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:40 PM
> To: Lyx-Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: bibtex in Lyx
>
>
> your're right. Theres's probably a problem with the biography style as I
> pointed out with gerplain.
> Alternatively I exported the lyx file (using bibliography style
> gerplain) to tex.
> run latex once
> run bibtex
> run latex twice (error messages, forget it)
>
> I got a dvi file out of that.
>
> So it's possible to work with plain until you change the style and get
> the biography using the style you really want.
>
> If you find another workaround, please report it
>
> Cheers,
> J.
>
> Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 21.19 schrieb Jim Ragsdale:
> > I tried the test file. I just pointed the bibtex dialog to the
> new spot for
> > the bib-test file and no problem. I think I have narrowed the
> problem down
> > to my class file. Bibtex works fine for the article class
> incuded w/ Lyx.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim Ragsdale
>
>

Re: bibtex and lyx 1.2.1

[Angus Leeming]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've recently upgraded from lyx 1.1.6 to 1.2.1 and have run into some
 problems with bibtex. My old lyx files still compile perfectly with all
 references in order, however when I have to enter a new citation, the
 citation popup in lyx only displays the first reference in my Bibtex file.
 The only way I can enter new references is to write in latex \cite{key}.
 This works fine but I'm keen to get it working in lyx also. The following
 is how my Bibtex file blah.bib looks:

Our BibTeX parser isn't very robust. All will be fine if you move the key 
onto the same line as the @article etc.

Here's a little sed script that should do it automatically.

sed '/^[   ]*@[a-zA-Z]*{[]*$/{; $!N; s/\n//; }' test2.bib  test.bib

No warranty of course ;-)
Angus

 @article{
 Anderson95,

Re: bibtex and lyx 1.2.1

[Angus Leeming]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've recently upgraded from lyx 1.1.6 to 1.2.1 and have run into some
 problems with bibtex. My old lyx files still compile perfectly with all
 references in order, however when I have to enter a new citation, the
 citation popup in lyx only displays the first reference in my Bibtex file.
 The only way I can enter new references is to write in latex \cite{key}.
 This works fine but I'm keen to get it working in lyx also. The following
 is how my Bibtex file blah.bib looks:

Our BibTeX parser isn't very robust. All will be fine if you move the key 
onto the same line as the @article etc.

Here's a little sed script that should do it automatically.

sed '/^[   ]*@[a-zA-Z]*{[]*$/{; $!N; s/\n//; }' test2.bib  test.bib

No warranty of course ;-)
Angus

 @article{
 Anderson95,

Re: bibtex and lyx 1.2.1

[Angus Leeming]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've recently upgraded from lyx 1.1.6 to 1.2.1 and have run into some
> problems with bibtex. My old lyx files still compile perfectly with all
> references in order, however when I have to enter a new citation, the
> citation popup in lyx only displays the first reference in my Bibtex file.
> The only way I can enter new references is to write in latex \cite{key}.
> This works fine but I'm keen to get it working in lyx also. The following
> is how my Bibtex file blah.bib looks:

Our BibTeX parser isn't very robust. All will be fine if you move the key 
onto the same line as the @article etc.

Here's a little sed script that should do it automatically.

sed '/^[   ]*@[a-zA-Z]*{[]*$/{; $!N; s/\n//; }' test2.bib > test.bib

No warranty of course ;-)
Angus

> @article{
> Anderson95,

Re: Re: bibtex in lyx

[Guenter Milde]

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:24:53 -0600 wrote Christopher M. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I have generated a bibliography-list with pybliographic, but now I'm
  wondering how to procede with it to convert it into the bibtex file which I
  can include into lyx.

 The file generated should be the bibtex file you use. 
... as pybliographic is just a front end for creating bibtex files. (Does it
end with .bib? -- then you are most likely allright.

 But you don't 'include' 
 the file--what you do is you say at the end of your document in TeX (red text)
 
 \bibliographystyle{foo}
 \bibliography{bibfile}
 
 Bibfile is without the .bib extension. 

In recent LyX versions, you can also use the menu:
 InsertListsContentBibtex 
(not sure about the names, my LyX is German) will pop up a window where you
give the filename (without .bib) and style and then insert a grey button at
the cursor position. In the printed version this is replaced with the
References section (i.e. it works in the same manner as the TOC).

 All you need to do to make the bib 
 file available is to put it in your TEXDIR/bibtex/bib directory, or whatever 
 the equivalent is on your system, and run
 
 texconfig rehash

As far as I know, it should also work to have the bibfile in the working
directory (i.e. the same as the main .lyx file)

GM

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Re: Re: bibtex in lyx

[Guenter Milde]

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:24:53 -0600 wrote Christopher M. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I have generated a bibliography-list with pybliographic, but now I'm
  wondering how to procede with it to convert it into the bibtex file which I
  can include into lyx.

 The file generated should be the bibtex file you use. 
... as pybliographic is just a front end for creating bibtex files. (Does it
end with .bib? -- then you are most likely allright.

 But you don't 'include' 
 the file--what you do is you say at the end of your document in TeX (red text)
 
 \bibliographystyle{foo}
 \bibliography{bibfile}
 
 Bibfile is without the .bib extension. 

In recent LyX versions, you can also use the menu:
 InsertListsContentBibtex 
(not sure about the names, my LyX is German) will pop up a window where you
give the filename (without .bib) and style and then insert a grey button at
the cursor position. In the printed version this is replaced with the
References section (i.e. it works in the same manner as the TOC).

 All you need to do to make the bib 
 file available is to put it in your TEXDIR/bibtex/bib directory, or whatever 
 the equivalent is on your system, and run
 
 texconfig rehash

As far as I know, it should also work to have the bibfile in the working
directory (i.e. the same as the main .lyx file)

GM

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Re: Re: bibtex in lyx

[Guenter Milde]

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:24:53 -0600 wrote Christopher M. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > I have generated a bibliography-list with pybliographic, but now I'm
> > wondering how to procede with it to convert it into the bibtex file which I
> > can include into lyx.

> The file generated should be the bibtex file you use. 
... as pybliographic is just a front end for creating bibtex files. (Does it
end with .bib? -- then you are most likely allright.

> But you don't 'include' 
> the file--what you do is you say at the end of your document in TeX (red text)
> 
> \bibliographystyle{foo}
> \bibliography{bibfile}
> 
> Bibfile is without the .bib extension. 

In recent LyX versions, you can also use the menu:
 Insert>Lists>Bibtex 
(not sure about the names, my LyX is German) will pop up a window where you
give the filename (without .bib) and style and then insert a grey button at
the cursor position. In the printed version this is replaced with the
References section (i.e. it works in the same manner as the TOC).

> All you need to do to make the bib 
> file available is to put it in your TEXDIR/bibtex/bib directory, or whatever 
> the equivalent is on your system, and run
> 
> texconfig rehash

As far as I know, it should also work to have the bibfile in the working
directory (i.e. the same as the main .lyx file)

GM

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Re: bibtex in lyx

[Christopher M. Jones]

The file generated should be the bibtex file you use. But you don't 'include' 
the file--what you do is you say at the end of your document in TeX (red text)

\bibliographystyle{foo}
\bibliography{bibfile}

Bibfile is without the .bib extension. All you need to do to make the bib 
file available is to put it in your TEXDIR/bibtex/bib directory, or whatever 
the equivalent is on your system, and run

texconfig rehash

If that doesn't do the trick then post specifically what you did and what is 
happening that tells you it isn't working.

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:53 pm, you wrote:
 Hi,

 I have generated a bibliography-list with pybliographic, but now I'm
 wondering how to procede with it to convert it into the bibtex file which I
 can include into lyx. Please don't tell me to have a look on several howto
 etc. pages, because that's what I have been doing for quite a time, but I
 really can't find anything which helps me to resolve the problem. I hope
 that someone can help me as I really don't want to write the whole list
 again.

 Thanks.

 Rubén

Re: bibtex in lyx

[Christopher M. Jones]

The file generated should be the bibtex file you use. But you don't 'include' 
the file--what you do is you say at the end of your document in TeX (red text)

\bibliographystyle{foo}
\bibliography{bibfile}

Bibfile is without the .bib extension. All you need to do to make the bib 
file available is to put it in your TEXDIR/bibtex/bib directory, or whatever 
the equivalent is on your system, and run

texconfig rehash

If that doesn't do the trick then post specifically what you did and what is 
happening that tells you it isn't working.

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:53 pm, you wrote:
 Hi,

 I have generated a bibliography-list with pybliographic, but now I'm
 wondering how to procede with it to convert it into the bibtex file which I
 can include into lyx. Please don't tell me to have a look on several howto
 etc. pages, because that's what I have been doing for quite a time, but I
 really can't find anything which helps me to resolve the problem. I hope
 that someone can help me as I really don't want to write the whole list
 again.

 Thanks.

 Rubén

Re: bibtex in lyx

[Christopher M. Jones]

The file generated should be the bibtex file you use. But you don't 'include' 
the file--what you do is you say at the end of your document in TeX (red text)

\bibliographystyle{foo}
\bibliography{bibfile}

Bibfile is without the .bib extension. All you need to do to make the bib 
file available is to put it in your TEXDIR/bibtex/bib directory, or whatever 
the equivalent is on your system, and run

texconfig rehash

If that doesn't do the trick then post specifically what you did and what is 
happening that tells you it isn't working.

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:53 pm, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have generated a bibliography-list with pybliographic, but now I'm
> wondering how to procede with it to convert it into the bibtex file which I
> can include into lyx. Please don't tell me to have a look on several howto
> etc. pages, because that's what I have been doing for quite a time, but I
> really can't find anything which helps me to resolve the problem. I hope
> that someone can help me as I really don't want to write the whole list
> again.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rubén

Re: Bibtex in Lyx and/or Klyx

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Phil" == Phil Scordis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Phil However, after re-writing all of the cites into the original
Phil document the buffer overflow returned. Inspection of the .aux
Phil file indicated a number of figure captions that seemed to be
Phil quite lengthy, and sure enough commenting out these figures in
Phil lyx solved the problem.

Do you have figure captions which contain citations?

JMarc

Re: Bibtex in Lyx and/or Klyx

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Phil" == Phil Scordis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Phil No, those particular ones did not, but reducing their lengths or
Phil removing them all together solved it.

That may be a bibtex bug, then, but it surprises me a bit.

JMarc

Re: Bibtex in Lyx and/or Klyx

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Phil" == Phil Scordis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Phil However, after re-writing all of the cites into the original
Phil document the buffer overflow returned. Inspection of the .aux
Phil file indicated a number of figure captions that seemed to be
Phil quite lengthy, and sure enough commenting out these figures in
Phil lyx solved the problem.

Do you have figure captions which contain citations?

JMarc

Re: Bibtex in Lyx and/or Klyx

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Phil" == Phil Scordis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Phil No, those particular ones did not, but reducing their lengths or
Phil removing them all together solved it.

That may be a bibtex bug, then, but it surprises me a bit.

JMarc

Re: Bibtex in Lyx and/or Klyx

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Phil" == Phil Scordis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Phil> However, after re-writing all of the cites into the original
Phil> document the buffer overflow returned. Inspection of the .aux
Phil> file indicated a number of figure captions that seemed to be
Phil> quite lengthy, and sure enough commenting out these figures in
Phil> lyx solved the problem.

Do you have figure captions which contain citations?

JMarc

Re: Bibtex in Lyx and/or Klyx

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Phil" == Phil Scordis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Phil> No, those particular ones did not, but reducing their lengths or
Phil> removing them all together solved it.

That may be a bibtex bug, then, but it surprises me a bit.

JMarc

Re: Bibtex in Lyx and/or Klyx

[Herbert Voss]

 This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.3.1)
 The top-level auxiliary file: thesis.aux
 Sorry---you've exceeded BibTeX's buffer size 5000
 
 Can anyone tell me why this may be happening?
 Especially as the bib file, when inserted into another document, works
 perfectly.

delete the aux-file and try again.

Herbert

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