Re: grammar check

[Saša Janiška]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:16:37 +
Bernt Lie via lyx-users  wrote:

> Not a perfect solution...

> I copied text from LyX into Microsoft Edge co-pilot following

[...]

> -- I then copied the corrected text from MS Edge back into LyX.

OK, that's similar to using LanguageTool/Andtidote or some other
grammar checker via web...

It would be nice to have something more integrated with LyX!


Sincerely,
Saša

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Re: grammar check

[Saša Janiška]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 18:56:43 -0400
Steve Litt  wrote:

> Does LyX have a Markdown export? Is it any better than LyX' HTML
> export?

I'm told about this: https://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/ConvertMarkdown


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Re: grammar check

[Steve Litt]

Saša Janiška said on Wed, 24 Apr 2024 11:24:03 +0200

>Hello,
>
>I've decided to do my note-taking (Zettelkasten) by just using pen &
>paper and when I want to produce some context I'll just use LyX -
>exporting to markdown when I want something for the web 

Does LyX have a Markdown export? Is it any better than LyX' HTML export?

Thanks,

SteveT

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RE: grammar check

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

(The procedure worked, even though I see that I misspelled "grammar"...)

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Bernt Lie via 
lyx-users
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 12:17 PM
To: Saša Janiška ; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: grammar check

Not a perfect solution...

I copied text from LyX into Microsoft Edge co-pilot following 
(https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/do-more-with-ai/how-to-check-your-grammar-using-bing-chat?form=MA13KP).

I used command: "Can you check this text for spelling errors and grammer 
errors?", and passed in the text to check *after* a line break (Ctrl+Enter, I 
think), and then clicked on the start button.

The results seems to be quite good, although it "fixed" a handful of errors 
that were not really errors, but rather words that co-pilot didn't know (some 
technical words from dna analysis). 
--
I then copied the corrected text from MS Edge back into LyX.

The "downside" of this procedure is that some structure was lost in the copying 
back-and-forth process (a slash "/", some bullet symbols in lists, etc.). 

-B

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Saša Janiška
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 11:24 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: grammar check

Hello,

I've decided to do my note-taking (Zettelkasten) by just using pen & paper and 
when I want to produce some context I'll just use LyX - exporting to markdown 
when I want something for the web (using Tiki
CMS) or LyX/LaTeX for writing articles (pdfs), slide-presentations, books…

However, being non-native speaker/writer I do find useful to use some grammar 
checkers.

To support LanguageTool I've subscribed to Premium version, but found out that 
despite being open-source etc. it has its limitations (see e.g. 
https://github.com/valentjn/ltex-ls/issues/215).

Otoh, I've a licence for proprietary Antidote
(https://www.druide.com/en) which can check text provided as e.g.
markdown, LaTeX...

Now I wonder if you have any suggestion how to review lyx-gc to either support 
newer versions of LanguageTool or to use Antidote's ability to grammar-check 
LaTeX markup considering that lyx-gc was using chktex to do the task.

Any other suggestion how to add grammar-check feature to LyX?


Sincerely,
Saša

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RE: grammar check

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Not a perfect solution...

I copied text from LyX into Microsoft Edge co-pilot following 
(https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/do-more-with-ai/how-to-check-your-grammar-using-bing-chat?form=MA13KP).

I used command: "Can you check this text for spelling errors and grammer 
errors?", and passed in the text to check *after* a line break (Ctrl+Enter, I 
think), and then clicked on the start button.

The results seems to be quite good, although it "fixed" a handful of errors 
that were not really errors, but rather words that co-pilot didn't know (some 
technical words from dna analysis). 
--
I then copied the corrected text from MS Edge back into LyX.

The "downside" of this procedure is that some structure was lost in the copying 
back-and-forth process (a slash "/", some bullet symbols in lists, etc.). 

-B

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Saša Janiška
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 11:24 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: grammar check

Hello,

I've decided to do my note-taking (Zettelkasten) by just using pen & paper and 
when I want to produce some context I'll just use LyX - exporting to markdown 
when I want something for the web (using Tiki
CMS) or LyX/LaTeX for writing articles (pdfs), slide-presentations, books…

However, being non-native speaker/writer I do find useful to use some grammar 
checkers.

To support LanguageTool I've subscribed to Premium version, but found out that 
despite being open-source etc. it has its limitations (see e.g. 
https://github.com/valentjn/ltex-ls/issues/215).

Otoh, I've a licence for proprietary Antidote
(https://www.druide.com/en) which can check text provided as e.g.
markdown, LaTeX...

Now I wonder if you have any suggestion how to review lyx-gc to either support 
newer versions of LanguageTool or to use Antidote's ability to grammar-check 
LaTeX markup considering that lyx-gc was using chktex to do the task.

Any other suggestion how to add grammar-check feature to LyX?


Sincerely,
Saša

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Re: Grammar Checking -- noob help!

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 12/6/22 12:57, Dan wrote:
I'm writing what is essentially going to be a small text in Physics 
with a lot of high end Mathematics, so a good Science grammar checker 
would be a nice idea.  I found the LyX wiki and the lyx-cg system.


This was created by a user and sometime contributor. I'm not sure if 
he's still around; perhaps he'll chime in. But yes, it looks like that 
is somewhat out of date. I don't know how well it would work with the 
current file format.


Your best option may be to export the file to some more common format, 
and use a grammar checker on that. E.g., you can export to LaTeX and 
then use pandoc to convert to Word or whatever. Or you can export to 
XHMTL, and then open that in Libre Office.


Riki



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Re: Grammar checking

[John Kane]

Hi Steve,
I have never found a grammar checker that it useful for one's native
language, in my case English.  On the other hand, my French is rather
primitive and a good grammar makes me intelligible if not exactly eloquent.

I did try the MS one years ago and it was maddening. It seemed to want one
to write at a grade 8 level and complained incessantly when I used a
passive sentence.

On 22 August 2017 at 17:38, Steve Litt  wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:35:38 +0200
> "Patrick Dupre"  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > lyx offers a language checker, but not a grammar checker.
> > I installed the check-Tex option, but the results are not convincing
> > (at least in English). The suggestion are really poor.
> > Is there any way to install a more efficient grammar checker?
> > To circumvent the problem, I used to generate a rtf file and then to
> > use freeoffice which let me use a grammar checker like LT.
> > However, the generation of the rtf file is really problematic for a
> > scientific document (for example, I have to remove the section,
> > subsection, etc..).
> >
> > Some suggestions?
>
> Last century I tried MSWord's grammar checker. I found it a great idea
> impossible to implement. It would often let fly sentences with a wrong
> word, and worse yet, it would flag lots of sentences that any author
> would feel good about writing.
>
> I think that, once you get past absolutely horrible grammar, grammar
> checking becomes nothing but frustration.
>
> I mentioned MSWord, which is obviously bad software, but I really think
> it's impossible to implement a useful grammar checker with the current
> state of AI. Wait another 10 years and perhaps grammar checkers will
> learn how we authors talk, and base checking on that.
>
> SteveT
>



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Re: Grammar checking

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 05:38:59PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:35:38 +0200
> "Patrick Dupre"  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > lyx offers a language checker, but not a grammar checker.
> > I installed the check-Tex option, but the results are not convincing
> > (at least in English). The suggestion are really poor.
> > Is there any way to install a more efficient grammar checker?
> > To circumvent the problem, I used to generate a rtf file and then to
> > use freeoffice which let me use a grammar checker like LT.
> > However, the generation of the rtf file is really problematic for a 
> > scientific document (for example, I have to remove the section,
> > subsection, etc..).
> > 
> > Some suggestions?
> 
> Last century I tried MSWord's grammar checker. I found it a great idea
> impossible to implement. It would often let fly sentences with a wrong
> word, and worse yet, it would flag lots of sentences that any author
> would feel good about writing.
> 
> I think that, once you get past absolutely horrible grammar, grammar
> checking becomes nothing but frustration.
> 
> I mentioned MSWord, which is obviously bad software, but I really think
> it's impossible to implement a useful grammar checker with the current
> state of AI. Wait another 10 years and perhaps grammar checkers will
> learn how we authors talk, and base checking on that.

Patrick, take a look at the old ticket (but with recent discussion):

https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4878

Please feel free to join the discussion. As for if there is a way for a
more effective grammar checker, you might like comment:9 on that ticket.
Note, however, that it is only for English.

Steve, I agree with you for the most part. Sometimes, though, the
grammar checker catches simple mistakes that my eyes do not. I can read
a sentence 10 times and somehow not catch a singular/plural mismatch. I
have found it helpful [1] to read my paper backwards [2] in order to
catch certain types of errors.

Scott


[1] Thanks to my high school teacher Mrs. Coulter for this suggestion!

[2] I originally had "backwords". Luckily I read this sentence backwards :)


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Re: Grammar checking

[Steve Litt]

On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:35:38 +0200
"Patrick Dupre"  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> lyx offers a language checker, but not a grammar checker.
> I installed the check-Tex option, but the results are not convincing
> (at least in English). The suggestion are really poor.
> Is there any way to install a more efficient grammar checker?
> To circumvent the problem, I used to generate a rtf file and then to
> use freeoffice which let me use a grammar checker like LT.
> However, the generation of the rtf file is really problematic for a 
> scientific document (for example, I have to remove the section,
> subsection, etc..).
> 
> Some suggestions?

Last century I tried MSWord's grammar checker. I found it a great idea
impossible to implement. It would often let fly sentences with a wrong
word, and worse yet, it would flag lots of sentences that any author
would feel good about writing.

I think that, once you get past absolutely horrible grammar, grammar
checking becomes nothing but frustration.

I mentioned MSWord, which is obviously bad software, but I really think
it's impossible to implement a useful grammar checker with the current
state of AI. Wait another 10 years and perhaps grammar checkers will
learn how we authors talk, and base checking on that.

SteveT

Re: grammar check?

[Jose Quesada]

I'm definitely interested in this. If someone will be adding this
functionalty, I'll happily help debugging it.
Best,
-Jose

Jose Quesada, PhD.
Max Planck Institute,
Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
Berlin
http://www.josequesada.name/
http://twitter.com/Quesada


2010/4/17 Marcelo Acuña mv...@yahoo.com.ar

   It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
  of lyx?

  No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
  linked into
  LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
 
  Richard
  Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

 Marcelo

Re: grammar check?

[Jose Quesada]

I'm definitely interested in this. If someone will be adding this
functionalty, I'll happily help debugging it.
Best,
-Jose

Jose Quesada, PhD.
Max Planck Institute,
Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
Berlin
http://www.josequesada.name/
http://twitter.com/Quesada


2010/4/17 Marcelo Acuña mv...@yahoo.com.ar

   It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
  of lyx?

  No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
  linked into
  LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
 
  Richard
  Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

 Marcelo

Re: grammar check?

[Jose Quesada]

I'm definitely interested in this. If someone will be adding this
functionalty, I'll happily help debugging it.
Best,
-Jose

Jose Quesada, PhD.
Max Planck Institute,
Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition,
Berlin
http://www.josequesada.name/
http://twitter.com/Quesada


2010/4/17 Marcelo Acuña 

> > > It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
> > of lyx?
>
> > No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
> > linked into
> > LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
> >
> > Richard
>  Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.
>
> Marcelo
>
>
>
>

Re: grammar check?

[rgheck]

On 04/17/2010 11:44 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions of lyx?

   
No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be linked into 
LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.


Richard

Re: grammar check?

[Marcelo Acuña]

  It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
 of lyx?

 No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
 linked into 
 LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
 
 Richard
 Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

Marcelo 

Re: grammar check?

[rgheck]

On 04/17/2010 11:44 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions of lyx?

   
No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be linked into 
LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.


Richard

Re: grammar check?

[Marcelo Acuña]

  It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
 of lyx?

 No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
 linked into 
 LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
 
 Richard
 Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

Marcelo 

Re: grammar check?

[rgheck]

On 04/17/2010 11:44 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:

It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions of lyx?

   
No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be linked into 
LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.


Richard

Re: grammar check?

[Marcelo Acuña]

> > It is in schedule a grammar check in future versions
> of lyx?

> No. If there is a good open source one, it could perhaps be
> linked into 
> LyX, if someone wanted to do that work.
> 
> Richard
 Open Office has one, although with a poor implementation of the Spanish.

Marcelo 

Re: Grammar

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Mon 07 Nov 2005 08:46:17 GMT, [Johan Ingvast] wrote : \_


Hi
Has anybody looked into the possibilities of incorporating a grammer 
checker into lyx. I just found that AbiWord has one, and they are 
using link-grammer http://www.link.cs.cmu.edu/link


Just wondering
/johan


This has been discussed very recently and should be in the LyX mailing list
archive, wherever it is located. You can locate the entire thread using the
message headers below:

=MESSAGE BEGIN=

Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:55:02 +0100 [23 Oct 2005 10:55:02 GMT]
From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Grammar check?
Headers: Show All Headers  |  Show Mailing List Information

Roy Schestowitz wrote:


Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.


I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

=MESSAGE END=

Re: Grammar

[Johan Ingvast]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

_/ On Mon 07 Nov 2005 08:46:17 GMT, [Johan Ingvast] wrote : \_


Hi
Has anybody looked into the possibilities of incorporating a grammer 
checker into lyx. I just found that AbiWord has one, and they are 
using link-grammer http://www.link.cs.cmu.edu/link



This has been discussed very recently and should be in the LyX mailing list
archive, wherever it is located. You can locate the entire thread using the
message headers below:
Thanks for letting me know. I thought I followed the list so I didn't 
bother to check. Must have missed this one.

/johan

Re: Grammar

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Mon 07 Nov 2005 08:46:17 GMT, [Johan Ingvast] wrote : \_


Hi
Has anybody looked into the possibilities of incorporating a grammer 
checker into lyx. I just found that AbiWord has one, and they are 
using link-grammer http://www.link.cs.cmu.edu/link


Just wondering
/johan


This has been discussed very recently and should be in the LyX mailing list
archive, wherever it is located. You can locate the entire thread using the
message headers below:

=MESSAGE BEGIN=

Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:55:02 +0100 [23 Oct 2005 10:55:02 GMT]
From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Grammar check?
Headers: Show All Headers  |  Show Mailing List Information

Roy Schestowitz wrote:


Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.


I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

=MESSAGE END=

Re: Grammar

[Johan Ingvast]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

_/ On Mon 07 Nov 2005 08:46:17 GMT, [Johan Ingvast] wrote : \_


Hi
Has anybody looked into the possibilities of incorporating a grammer 
checker into lyx. I just found that AbiWord has one, and they are 
using link-grammer http://www.link.cs.cmu.edu/link



This has been discussed very recently and should be in the LyX mailing list
archive, wherever it is located. You can locate the entire thread using the
message headers below:
Thanks for letting me know. I thought I followed the list so I didn't 
bother to check. Must have missed this one.

/johan

Re: Grammar

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Mon 07 Nov 2005 08:46:17 GMT, [Johan Ingvast] wrote : \_


Hi
Has anybody looked into the possibilities of incorporating a grammer 
checker into lyx. I just found that AbiWord has one, and they are 
using link-grammer http://www.link.cs.cmu.edu/link


Just wondering
/johan


This has been discussed very recently and should be in the LyX mailing list
archive, wherever it is located. You can locate the entire thread using the
message headers below:

=MESSAGE BEGIN=

Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:55:02 +0100 [23 Oct 2005 10:55:02 GMT]
From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Grammar check?
Headers: Show All Headers  |  Show Mailing List Information

Roy Schestowitz wrote:


Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.


I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

=MESSAGE END=

Re: Grammar

[Johan Ingvast]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

_/ On Mon 07 Nov 2005 08:46:17 GMT, [Johan Ingvast] wrote : \_


Hi
Has anybody looked into the possibilities of incorporating a grammer 
checker into lyx. I just found that AbiWord has one, and they are 
using link-grammer http://www.link.cs.cmu.edu/link



This has been discussed very recently and should be in the LyX mailing list
archive, wherever it is located. You can locate the entire thread using the
message headers below:
Thanks for letting me know. I thought I followed the list so I didn't 
bother to check. Must have missed this one.

/johan

Re: Grammar check?

[Paul]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
 Me too. Here is the direct link:
 
 * http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/
 
 Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
 due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
 vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
 Kile and others.

I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

Re: Grammar check?

[Paul]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
 Me too. Here is the direct link:
 
 * http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/
 
 Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
 due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
 vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
 Kile and others.

I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

Re: Grammar check?

[Paul]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> Me too. Here is the direct link:
> 
> * http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/
> 
> Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
> due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
> vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
> Kile and others.

I was looking into this a few days ago and here's some other links that
might be useful:

Queequeg, A Tiny English Grammar Checker
http://queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.html
Queequeg is a tiny English grammar checker for non-native speakers who
are not used to verb conjugation and number agreement. We especially
focus on people who're writing academic papers or business documents
where thorough checking is required. We aim to reduce this laborious
work with automated checking. Queequeg is named after a character in
Herman Melville's masterpiece.

Style and Diction
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html
Diction and style are two old standard UNIX commands. Diction identifies
wordy and commonly misused phrases. Style analyses surface
characteristics of a document, including sentence length and other
readability measures.

Paul.

Re: Grammar check?

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Sun 23 Oct 2005 01:34:07 BST, [Myriam Abramson] wrote : \_


I've read on /. that Abiword has some grammar check capability.
http://tinyurl.com/92o5p



Yes, when read that I immediately downloaded Abiword to see for myself how
well  it truly was. Abiword, which unlike other projects does not have li-
cence-related restrictions, could make use of this Open project, which can
possibly be 'plugged' into LyX some time in the future... or so I hope.



What about Lyx? That feature would be extremely useful to me.



Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  |Have you hugged your penguin today?
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
 4:05am  up 58 days 14:14,  9 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.58, 0.69

Re: Grammar check?

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Sun 23 Oct 2005 01:34:07 BST, [Myriam Abramson] wrote : \_


I've read on /. that Abiword has some grammar check capability.
http://tinyurl.com/92o5p



Yes, when read that I immediately downloaded Abiword to see for myself how
well  it truly was. Abiword, which unlike other projects does not have li-
cence-related restrictions, could make use of this Open project, which can
possibly be 'plugged' into LyX some time in the future... or so I hope.



What about Lyx? That feature would be extremely useful to me.



Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  |Have you hugged your penguin today?
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
 4:05am  up 58 days 14:14,  9 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.58, 0.69

Re: Grammar check?

[Roy Schestowitz]

_/ On Sun 23 Oct 2005 01:34:07 BST, [Myriam Abramson] wrote : \_


I've read on /. that Abiword has some grammar check capability.
http://tinyurl.com/92o5p



Yes, when read that I immediately downloaded Abiword to see for myself how
well  it truly was. Abiword, which unlike other projects does not have li-
cence-related restrictions, could make use of this Open project, which can
possibly be 'plugged' into LyX some time in the future... or so I hope.



What about Lyx? That feature would be extremely useful to me.



Me too. Here is the direct link:

* http://bobo.link.cs.cmu.edu/link/

Note  that  it only handles English at the moment, but I am sure that,  in
due  time, somebody will extend it. For Latin languages, it is primarily a
vocabulary  barrier. Such a feature can definitely elevate LyX well  above
Kile and others.

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  |Have you hugged your penguin today?
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
 4:05am  up 58 days 14:14,  9 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.58, 0.69

Re: grammar checker and lyx?

[Jorgen Johansson]

Hello
I don't know if my grammar knowledge is at native level, but once (e.g. 
MS word) puts a green line beneath something the is grammatically 
incorrect I can fairly quickly spot what is wrong. E.g. singular or 
plural verb usage or in case of cut and paste: duplicated articles etc.

Anyway my original question was:

Is there a grammar checker that can be used with Lyx/Cygwin?

jorgen

 -Original Message-
 From: Robin Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 21:20
 To: Jorgen Johansson
 Subject: Re: grammar checker and lyx?


 Jorgen Johansson wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Not being a native english speaker I often make simple grammatical
  misstakes when writing english. What options do I have for checking
  grammar in a lyx or text file? AFAIK Ispell and aspell cannot check
  grammar, right?
 
  Any suggestions for free grammar checker?

 Speaking as someone who has been teaching English and academic skills to
 non-native speakers for a long time, I can say that in general, grammar
 checkers are more trouble than they are worth.  If anything, they are
 slightly more useful for native speakers, who can tell at a glance
 whether the grammar checker has found a genuine mistake (such as often
 occurs when you are cutting and pasting a lot) or is just writing random
 green lines.

 Sir Robin

 --
 A strategy is still being formulated.

 Robin Turner
 IDMYO
 Bilkent Univeritesi
 Ankara 06533
 Turkey

 www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



Jorgen Johansson wrote:
Hello,

Not being a native english speaker I often make simple grammatical 
misstakes when writing english. What options do I have for checking 
grammar in a lyx or text file? AFAIK Ispell and aspell cannot check 
grammar, right?

Any suggestions for free grammar checker?

jorgen

Re: grammar checker and lyx?

[Jorgen Johansson]

Hello
I don't know if my grammar knowledge is at native level, but once (e.g. 
MS word) puts a green line beneath something the is grammatically 
incorrect I can fairly quickly spot what is wrong. E.g. singular or 
plural verb usage or in case of cut and paste: duplicated articles etc.

Anyway my original question was:

Is there a grammar checker that can be used with Lyx/Cygwin?

jorgen

 -Original Message-
 From: Robin Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 21:20
 To: Jorgen Johansson
 Subject: Re: grammar checker and lyx?


 Jorgen Johansson wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Not being a native english speaker I often make simple grammatical
  misstakes when writing english. What options do I have for checking
  grammar in a lyx or text file? AFAIK Ispell and aspell cannot check
  grammar, right?
 
  Any suggestions for free grammar checker?

 Speaking as someone who has been teaching English and academic skills to
 non-native speakers for a long time, I can say that in general, grammar
 checkers are more trouble than they are worth.  If anything, they are
 slightly more useful for native speakers, who can tell at a glance
 whether the grammar checker has found a genuine mistake (such as often
 occurs when you are cutting and pasting a lot) or is just writing random
 green lines.

 Sir Robin

 --
 A strategy is still being formulated.

 Robin Turner
 IDMYO
 Bilkent Univeritesi
 Ankara 06533
 Turkey

 www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



Jorgen Johansson wrote:
Hello,

Not being a native english speaker I often make simple grammatical 
misstakes when writing english. What options do I have for checking 
grammar in a lyx or text file? AFAIK Ispell and aspell cannot check 
grammar, right?

Any suggestions for free grammar checker?

jorgen

Re: grammar checker and lyx?

[Jorgen Johansson]

Hello
I don't know if my grammar knowledge is at native level, but once (e.g. 
MS word) puts a green line beneath something the is grammatically 
incorrect I can fairly quickly spot what is wrong. E.g. singular or 
plural verb usage or in case of cut and paste: duplicated articles etc.

Anyway my original question was:

Is there a grammar checker that can be used with Lyx/Cygwin?

jorgen

> -Original Message-
> From: Robin Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 21:20
> To: Jorgen Johansson
> Subject: Re: grammar checker and lyx?
>
>
> Jorgen Johansson wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Not being a native english speaker I often make simple grammatical
> > misstakes when writing english. What options do I have for checking
> > grammar in a lyx or text file? AFAIK Ispell and aspell cannot check
> > grammar, right?
> >
> > Any suggestions for free grammar checker?
>
> Speaking as someone who has been teaching English and academic skills to
> non-native speakers for a long time, I can say that in general, grammar
> checkers are more trouble than they are worth.  If anything, they are
> slightly more useful for native speakers, who can tell at a glance
> whether the grammar checker has found a genuine mistake (such as often
> occurs when you are cutting and pasting a lot) or is just writing random
> green lines.
>
> Sir Robin
>
> --
> "A strategy is still being formulated."
>
> Robin Turner
> IDMYO
> Bilkent Univeritesi
> Ankara 06533
> Turkey
>
> www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
>
>
>
Jorgen Johansson wrote:
Hello,

Not being a native english speaker I often make simple grammatical 
misstakes when writing english. What options do I have for checking 
grammar in a lyx or text file? AFAIK Ispell and aspell cannot check 
grammar, right?

Any suggestions for free grammar checker?

jorgen

Re: grammar

[Robin Turner]

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 21:38, you wrote:
 * Robert Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010321 08:27]:
Hi,
 
  A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
  I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
  are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
 
  in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?

I've never been keen on grammar checkers.  In the bad old days when I used MS 
Word, the only thing I found the grammar checker useful for was checking that 
I had the right number of spaces after punctuation (which of course I don't 
need to do in LyX).  Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances 
recently, I think grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation 
than a help.

Robin

Re: grammar

[Stefano Ghirlanda]

Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
 grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
 help.

Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
is a great help to him.

-- 
Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
  email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
 the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience

Re: grammar

[Rob Koehler]

Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:

 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
  grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
  help.

 Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
 is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
 tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
 is a great help to him.

 --
 Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
   email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
  the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience

Well I do speak, read and write english fluently, the reason I am
interested in a grammar checker is that a thesis is a very large and
complicated document. You just want to be sure that you haven't made
little mistakes that are going to necessitate a rewrite! It's better if
it is right the first time!

L8r
Rob

Dept Mech Eng
Adelaide University

Re: grammar

[Mark Hansel]

I occassionally use diction and style, almost exclusively on first draft.
I don't rely on them to fix grammar -- I don't have patience for much that
is wrongly identified as erroneous. I do use them to identify long
sentences and spend my time thinking very carefull about better ways to
make my point (and sometimes discover either that I don't have a one or
that there is a better one). I pay some attention to a few indices and I
work at communicating with whatever audience I am targetting (student,
professional peers, dense administrators, general public). Since long
words are penalized and technical terms tend to be long, I don't get
overly concerned about the indices.

I always export to ascii and am not looking for a grammar checker that is
intergrated with lyx.

Clarity and economy of language. Ruthlessly edit out 1st draft
indulgences.


On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rob Koehler wrote:

Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:

 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
  grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
  help.

 Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
 is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
 tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
 is a great help to him.

 --
 Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
   email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
  the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience

Well I do speak, read and write english fluently, the reason I am
interested in a grammar checker is that a thesis is a very large and
complicated document. You just want to be sure that you haven't made
little mistakes that are going to necessitate a rewrite! It's better if
it is right the first time!

L8r
Rob

Dept Mech Eng
Adelaide University



-- 
Mark Hansel
PO Box 41
Minnesota State University Moorhead
Moorhead, MN 56563
ph: 218-236-2039 fax: 218-236-2593
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu

Re: grammar

[Robin Turner]

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 21:38, you wrote:
 * Robert Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010321 08:27]:
Hi,
 
  A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
  I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
  are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
 
  in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?

I've never been keen on grammar checkers.  In the bad old days when I used MS 
Word, the only thing I found the grammar checker useful for was checking that 
I had the right number of spaces after punctuation (which of course I don't 
need to do in LyX).  Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances 
recently, I think grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation 
than a help.

Robin

Re: grammar

[Stefano Ghirlanda]

Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
 grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
 help.

Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
is a great help to him.

-- 
Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
  email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
 the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience

Re: grammar

[Rob Koehler]

Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:

 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
  grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
  help.

 Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
 is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
 tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
 is a great help to him.

 --
 Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
   email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
  the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience

Well I do speak, read and write english fluently, the reason I am
interested in a grammar checker is that a thesis is a very large and
complicated document. You just want to be sure that you haven't made
little mistakes that are going to necessitate a rewrite! It's better if
it is right the first time!

L8r
Rob

Dept Mech Eng
Adelaide University

Re: grammar

[Mark Hansel]

I occassionally use diction and style, almost exclusively on first draft.
I don't rely on them to fix grammar -- I don't have patience for much that
is wrongly identified as erroneous. I do use them to identify long
sentences and spend my time thinking very carefull about better ways to
make my point (and sometimes discover either that I don't have a one or
that there is a better one). I pay some attention to a few indices and I
work at communicating with whatever audience I am targetting (student,
professional peers, dense administrators, general public). Since long
words are penalized and technical terms tend to be long, I don't get
overly concerned about the indices.

I always export to ascii and am not looking for a grammar checker that is
intergrated with lyx.

Clarity and economy of language. Ruthlessly edit out 1st draft
indulgences.


On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rob Koehler wrote:

Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:

 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
  grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
  help.

 Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
 is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
 tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
 is a great help to him.

 --
 Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
   email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
  the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience

Well I do speak, read and write english fluently, the reason I am
interested in a grammar checker is that a thesis is a very large and
complicated document. You just want to be sure that you haven't made
little mistakes that are going to necessitate a rewrite! It's better if
it is right the first time!

L8r
Rob

Dept Mech Eng
Adelaide University



-- 
Mark Hansel
PO Box 41
Minnesota State University Moorhead
Moorhead, MN 56563
ph: 218-236-2039 fax: 218-236-2593
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu

Re: grammar

[Robin Turner]

On Wednesday 21 March 2001 21:38, you wrote:
> * Robert Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010321 08:27]:
> >   Hi,
> >
> > A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
> > I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
> > are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
> >
> > in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?

I've never been keen on grammar checkers.  In the bad old days when I used MS 
Word, the only thing I found the grammar checker useful for was checking that 
I had the right number of spaces after punctuation (which of course I don't 
need to do in LyX).  Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances 
recently, I think grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation 
than a help.

Robin

Re: grammar

[Stefano Ghirlanda]

Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
> grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
> help.

Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
is a great help to him.

-- 
Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
  email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
 the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience

Re: grammar

[Rob Koehler]

Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:

> Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
> > grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
> > help.
>
> Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
> is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
> tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
> is a great help to him.
>
> --
> Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
>   email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
>  the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience

Well I do speak, read and write english fluently, the reason I am
interested in a grammar checker is that a thesis is a very large and
complicated document. You just want to be sure that you haven't made
little mistakes that are going to necessitate a rewrite! It's better if
it is right the first time!

L8r
Rob

Dept Mech Eng
Adelaide University

Re: grammar

[Mark Hansel]

I occassionally use diction and style, almost exclusively on first draft.
I don't rely on them to fix grammar -- I don't have patience for much that
is wrongly identified as erroneous. I do use them to identify long
sentences and spend my time thinking very carefull about better ways to
make my point (and sometimes discover either that I don't have a one or
that there is a better one). I pay some attention to a few indices and I
work at communicating with whatever audience I am targetting (student,
professional peers, dense administrators, general public). Since long
words are penalized and technical terms tend to be long, I don't get
overly concerned about the indices.

I always export to ascii and am not looking for a grammar checker that is
intergrated with lyx.

Clarity and economy of language. Ruthlessly edit out 1st draft
indulgences.


On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rob Koehler wrote:

>Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:
>
>> Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > Unless NLP has made some pretty massive advances recently, I think
>> > grammar checkers will continue to be more of an irritation than a
>> > help.
>>
>> Well, we shouldn't generalise that much, I think. I have a friend who
>> is slighly dyslexic, and moreover English is not his mother
>> tongue. Even checking that third-persons of verbs and plurals end in s
>> is a great help to him.
>>
>> --
>> Stefano Ghirlanda, Zoologiska Institutionen, Stockholms Universitet
>>   email: you know it already, tel: +46-8-164055, fax:+46-8-167715
>>  the free science campaign: http://ethology.zool.su.se/freescience
>
>Well I do speak, read and write english fluently, the reason I am
>interested in a grammar checker is that a thesis is a very large and
>complicated document. You just want to be sure that you haven't made
>little mistakes that are going to necessitate a rewrite! It's better if
>it is right the first time!
>
>L8r
>Rob
>
>Dept Mech Eng
>Adelaide University
>
>

-- 
Mark Hansel
PO Box 41
Minnesota State University Moorhead
Moorhead, MN 56563
ph: 218-236-2039 fax: 218-236-2593
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu

Re: grammar

[Baruch Even]

* Robert Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010321 08:27]:
   Hi,
 
 A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
 I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
 are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
 
 in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?
 
 Is there some other Unix based software that does this on latex code, if
 Lyx can't?

I don't know about something for latex, but there is for text (you can
convert the latex to text or directly from lyx to text), I dont have a
direct link to it but I found a link that mention a program called
diction.

Just the link where I found the reference:
http://kb.indiana.edu/data/actd.html?cust=5912

This is a link to the programs diction and style:
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html

The source is at:
http://www.moria.de/~michael/diction/diction.tar.gz

-- 
Baruch Even
http://baruch.ev-en.org/

Re: grammar

[Baruch Even]

* Baruch Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010321 21:41]:
 * Robert Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010321 08:27]:
Hi,
  
  A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
  I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
  are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
  
  in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?
  
  Is there some other Unix based software that does this on latex code, if
  Lyx can't?
 
 I don't know about something for latex, but there is for text (you can
 convert the latex to text or directly from lyx to text), I dont have a
 direct link to it but I found a link that mention a program called
 diction.

Obviously, I did some search after writing this and wrote the rest of
the message after finding direct links to it.

Anyhow this programs dont do too good of a job, but they are as good as
it gets for free.

-- 
Baruch Even
http://baruch.ev-en.org/

Re: grammar

[Baruch Even]

* Robert Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010321 08:27]:
   Hi,
 
 A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
 I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
 are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
 
 in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?
 
 Is there some other Unix based software that does this on latex code, if
 Lyx can't?

I don't know about something for latex, but there is for text (you can
convert the latex to text or directly from lyx to text), I dont have a
direct link to it but I found a link that mention a program called
diction.

Just the link where I found the reference:
http://kb.indiana.edu/data/actd.html?cust=5912

This is a link to the programs diction and style:
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html

The source is at:
http://www.moria.de/~michael/diction/diction.tar.gz

-- 
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http://baruch.ev-en.org/

Re: grammar

[Baruch Even]

* Baruch Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010321 21:41]:
 * Robert Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010321 08:27]:
Hi,
  
  A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
  I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
  are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
  
  in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?
  
  Is there some other Unix based software that does this on latex code, if
  Lyx can't?
 
 I don't know about something for latex, but there is for text (you can
 convert the latex to text or directly from lyx to text), I dont have a
 direct link to it but I found a link that mention a program called
 diction.

Obviously, I did some search after writing this and wrote the rest of
the message after finding direct links to it.

Anyhow this programs dont do too good of a job, but they are as good as
it gets for free.

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Baruch Even
http://baruch.ev-en.org/

Re: grammar

[Baruch Even]

* Robert Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010321 08:27]:
>   Hi,
> 
> A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
> I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
> are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
> 
> in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?
> 
> Is there some other Unix based software that does this on latex code, if
> Lyx can't?

I don't know about something for latex, but there is for text (you can
convert the latex to text or directly from lyx to text), I dont have a
direct link to it but I found a link that mention a program called
diction.

Just the link where I found the reference:
http://kb.indiana.edu/data/actd.html?cust=5912

This is a link to the programs diction and style:
http://www.gnu.org/software/diction/diction.html

The source is at:
http://www.moria.de/~michael/diction/diction.tar.gz

-- 
Baruch Even
http://baruch.ev-en.org/

Re: grammar

[Baruch Even]

* Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010321 21:41]:
> * Robert Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010321 08:27]:
> >   Hi,
> > 
> > A question for all those using Lyx to write any type of document!
> > I am writing my PhD thesis in Lyx and was wondering how people
> > are checking the grammar in their documents? Yes we have a spell-checker
> > 
> > in Lyx but how about a grammar-checker?
> > 
> > Is there some other Unix based software that does this on latex code, if
> > Lyx can't?
> 
> I don't know about something for latex, but there is for text (you can
> convert the latex to text or directly from lyx to text), I dont have a
> direct link to it but I found a link that mention a program called
> diction.

Obviously, I did some search after writing this and wrote the rest of
the message after finding direct links to it.

Anyhow this programs dont do too good of a job, but they are as good as
it gets for free.

-- 
Baruch Even
http://baruch.ev-en.org/