Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Absolutely! Did my PhD thesis with LyX: around 170 pages with lots of figures, formulas, ... Paul Juergen Fenn wrote: Hello, is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 pages? TIA. Regards, Juergen.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
I'm writing my MSc thesis with LyX. Only 69 pages so far, but it works just as well as for shorter documents. I don't see any problem here. Hello, nearly everybody gave an answer to your request if long documentation could be manged by LyX. I only can agree that LyX is after my experiences much better to handle large docs than MS-Word or similar text processors. My degree encompassed about 110 pages including lots of tables. Especially one table was distributed about 11 pages without any problems. This doesn't mean that there were no problem (mostly fine tuning on the ground of LaTeX!), but on these occasions this list of LyX lovers proved to be a reliable source of any needed solution! To sum up, there is less good choice to create vast documents without LyX. Thomas
Re: TOC questions
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 02:51:59PM -0800, Mohammad Reza Danesh wrote:
I'm still stuck with the problem I posted couple of days before and can not
find a solution for it. The problem is that I don't want the content entry
in the TOC. I have 2 included files before TOC and 8 files after that, and I
have no idea how to remove the entry from the TOC. My experience with Latex is
limited to Lyx and what I have learned from this list, so ...
I have tried to change my document class from book to report with no success.
Does anyone out there has a solution for this?
In the book class there is no Contents entry in the TOC.
If you wish to remove the big Contents header at the top of the page
(before the TOC starts) then add the following lines to the preamble:
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
\clearpage%
\@starttoc{toc}%
}
Vertical alignment of images in tables
Hi, I need to put two images of different sizes in a row of a table. I'd like to be able to choose the vertical alignment of the shortest image (by default it's on the bottom). Anybody can help? Thanks! Stefano _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Thursday 15 November 2001 16:52, Juergen Fenn wrote: Hello, is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 pages? TIA. Regards, Juergen. I just remembered something about long documents. As you go past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. Therefore, if your book goes much over 100,000 words, you'll want to follow the instructions on http://www.lyx.org/help/ to split the file into separate part or chapter files. Steve -- Steve Litt Webmaster, Troubleshooters.Com http://www.troubleshooters.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Yesterday, +0100, Juergen Fenn wrote: is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 pages? One book with 450 pages, now I'm preparing the second one - only 350 pages :-) I cannot imagine writing WITHOUT LyX. Sasa
Re: Dual TOC's
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists the chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out blank. Any ideas? Use the shorttoc package.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve I just remembered something about long documents. As you go Steve past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with Steve increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 Steve seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file Steve consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx Steve window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. Do you have such a document? Were the words all in one big paragraph? It would be interesting to profile. I think that the huge paragraph model is more than linear, but complexity should be linear for normally-sized paragraphs. JMarc
Lyx under MAC OS X
Hello people, I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? Best regards Christian
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:07:33AM -0500, Christian Sandmann wrote: I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? Does Mac OS X have an X server? Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X [info]
||Does Mac OS X have an X server? It seems one could use http://www.xfree86.org/, following instructions given at http://www.macosxhints.com/. Info from a fellow Darwin user (not me).
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:07:33AM -0500, Christian Sandmann wrote: I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? Does Mac OS X have an X server? No! it runs Aqua on top of darwin. (and Aqua is a much nicer environment than X...) Andre' Using fink-tools and their X-Server for OsX (sorry, I don't have the URL ready, ask google or find your way via www.macgimp.org) LyX is compilable and runs as well, though I like it much better in Linux (PPC). Integration of latex and all the ps-stuff is much more seamless in linux. Interaction and sahring data between Aqua and X is a bit strange in OsX.. Have fun Niklas
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X [info]
DUVAL Laurent wrote: ||Does Mac OS X have an X server? It seems one could use http://www.xfree86.org/, following instructions given at http://www.macosxhints.com/. Info from a fellow Darwin user (not me). also have a look at http://www.lyx.org/help/misc/mac.html Herbert
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Friday 16 November 2001 09:15, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve I just remembered something about long documents. As you go Steve past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with Steve increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 Steve seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file Steve consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx Steve window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. Do you have such a document? Were the words all in one big paragraph? It would be interesting to profile. I think that the huge paragraph model is more than linear, but complexity should be linear for normally-sized paragraphs. JMarc My program to generate a test LyX doc is called makelyxbook.cpp, which you can copy from http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm. The makelyxbook.cpp program is licensed GPL, so you're free to copy, modify and distribute it, within the guidelines of the GPL. To answer your question, it fairly well represents the structure of a normal book, and its constants can be manipulated to better mimic your exact situation. Steve -- Steve Litt Webmaster, Troubleshooters.Com http://www.troubleshooters.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve My program to generate a test LyX doc is called Steve makelyxbook.cpp, which you can copy from Steve http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm. The Steve makelyxbook.cpp program is licensed GPL, so you're free to Steve copy, modify and distribute it, within the guidelines of the Steve GPL. To answer your question, it fairly well represents the Steve structure of a normal book, and its constants can be Steve manipulated to better mimic your exact situation. Many thanks. Will make a great profiling testbed. JMarc
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Am 16.11.01, 14:04:17, schrieb thomas schönhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] zum Thema Re: Using LyX for Long Documents: nearly everybody gave an answer to your request if long documentation could be manged by LyX. I only can agree that LyX is after my experiences much better to handle large docs than MS-Word or similar text processors. Hi *, Thanks to everyone on the list for answering. Well, there seem to be some more people working on long docs out there. :-) It is good news to learn that LyX works fine for this as I would like to use LaTeX to write my thesis, however I am looking for an editor that provides at least _some_ kind of an optical impression as far as document layout is concerned. So I probably will give LyX a try. Again, thank you very much for answering to all. Regards, Juergen.
Translation of LaTeX to LyX comments and back
Hi, I have again been urged to use vim for editing some document on my archaic notebook (where I use M$-DOS and vim) and I was against unpleasantly surprised, that LyX still does not provide interoperability between LyX and LaTeX in terms of comments. Do you think, that it would be really so hard to implement a translation of any LyX note (Insert/Note) into LaTeX comment (with %) and vice versa? It would make things hugely better for me. Thanks Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. -- Barry Goldwater (actually written by Karl Hess)
Re: ?s with table captions, table text justification, double rows, math cases and more
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:52:59PM -0700, John Boik wrote: I want to get table text to be \rightragged, not horizontally centered. If I type in \rightragged in the alignment box of the table popup, it does not work. Any other ideas? Yes, and that is exactly what I have written to you. Carefully select all fields in the particular column (so that they are blue), then go to Layout/Tabular and in the frame H. Alignment select Right. What's wrong with that? intended second line down below the intended first line in the column. Where is the linebreaks button, or what else am I doing wrong? Fill the column with the content, then select it and set in the field Width the width, which the column is to take. That's it. LyX will break the lines appropriately. Matej wrote: Section 4.4.4 in your User Guide. As per my original posting I have read this but it did not help. The previous paragraph of mine is by the section 4.4.4 of Guide. Which version of LyX do you have? If not 1.1.6fix, go and upgrade. Alt-C,arrow-up That seems to work, but only for one word at a time. Yup, that's it. I am sorry. You can use \linewidth as a unit (so, .55\linewidth is a legal expression for the column width). This did not seem to work for me. If I type in .55\linewidth in the width box of the table popup, it tells me that it is an invalid format. Herbert says it must be done manually by specifying the width in mm or similar units. You are probably right and LyX doesn't support this. Sorry. Have a nice day Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 A nation or civilization that continues to produce soft-minded men purchases its own spiritual death on an installment plan. --Martin Luther King, Jr.
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Richard A. Bilonick wrote: Why is it so difficult to place figures and tables in a sensible location? I have placed the tables and figures exactly where I want them to be. LyX (or Latex) puts them in ridiculous locations. It places tables very far from where they are inserted. It often puts some figures in different sections. I need to have a number figures and tables like this: if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H for single floats. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats/floats.php3 Herbert
Re: Dual TOC's
Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 16 November 2001 09:10, Dekel Tsur wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists the chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out blank. Any ideas? Use the shorttoc package. I got shorttoc.sty off CTAN, but where does one put shorttoc.sty? If possible I'd like to put it in my ~/.lyx tree, rather than strongarming it into the /usr tree. /usr/local/texmf/tex/latex/ Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Richard A. Bilonick wrote: Why is it so difficult to place figures and tables in a sensible location? I have placed the tables and figures exactly where I want them to be. LyX (or Latex) puts them in ridiculous locations. It places tables very far from where they are inserted. It often puts some figures in different sections. I need to have a number figures and tables like this: if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H for single floats. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats.floats.php3 Herbert
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents (long)
Paul Borgermans wrote:
I also used some more raw LaTeX in the main document:
\frontmatter for the introductory part
\mainmatter for the body
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Appendix} inside the appendix (defined
with the LyX menus Layout-Toggle Appendix)
this should be the default in latex
I also used \thispagestyle{empty} or \thispagestyle{plain} for some
introductory material:
- a page with a dedication
- a page with the jury members (section*)
- the summary (chapter*)
- table of contents
- list of figures and list of tables (with forced pagebreaks).
use komascript classes. there you have different pages for title,
backtitle a.s.o.
Makes life easier.
Herbert
--
http://www.lyx.org/help/
How to apply spelling within tables
Hi: does anyone know what can I do to be able to check spelling within table floats in lyx 1.1.6.fix3 Thanks
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Herbert Voss wrote: if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H ^ other ... Herbert, who needs weekend -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Dual TOC's
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 11:47:52AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 16 November 2001 09:10, Dekel Tsur wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists the chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out blank. Any ideas? Use the shorttoc package. I got shorttoc.sty off CTAN, but where does one put shorttoc.sty? If possible I'd like to put it in my ~/.lyx tree, rather than strongarming it into the /usr tree. You can put it anywhere as long as you have your TEXINPUTS environment variable set up correctly. ---Kayvan -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | crown of her husband | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents (long)
Herbert Voss wrote:
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Appendix} inside the appendix (defined
with the LyX menus Layout-Toggle Appendix)
This was necessary because I used the titlesec package to mimic the
koma-script lay-out and added some enhancements on the fly (like the option to
have quotes on the part pages.
this should be the default in latex
I also used \thispagestyle{empty} or \thispagestyle{plain} for some
introductory material:
- a page with a dedication
- a page with the jury members (section*)
- the summary (chapter*)
- table of contents
- list of figures and list of tables (with forced pagebreaks).
use komascript classes. there you have different pages for title,
backtitle a.s.o.
Makes life easier.
That's what I tried initially, but the koma-script classes clashed with other
special classes that I wanted to include too (don't remember which ones
exactly). I used the koma-script class for the cover page in a seperate LyX file.
Herbert
Paul
Re: How to apply spelling within tables
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 06:15:12PM +0100, Salvador Olmos wrote: does anyone know what can I do to be able to check spelling within table floats in lyx 1.1.6.fix3 you can't sorry - it's a missing feature in 1.1.6 As a workaround you can export to another format such as latex or ascii, then spell check that. I know this is not ideal. regards john -- Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons.
Re: Bibliography styles...
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:03:14PM +0100, ben wrote: Thanks very much! That's what I need, even if I must patch some things because the package expects to use external bib files (and I must have the bibliography items in the main file). No problem -- the .bbl file (there may be more of them with bibtopic) is just the stuff which can replace the \bibliography in the end of your document. So you can develop your paper with all luxury of bibtex databases, and than send to your publisher .bbl file together with the rest (or edit .tex file and replace \bibliography and \bibliographystyle with the content of .bbl file). Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? -- Thomas Jefferson, in his 1801 inaugural address
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Absolutely! Did my PhD thesis with LyX: around 170 pages with lots of figures, formulas, ... Paul Juergen Fenn wrote: Hello, is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 pages? TIA. Regards, Juergen.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
I'm writing my MSc thesis with LyX. Only 69 pages so far, but it works just as well as for shorter documents. I don't see any problem here. Hello, nearly everybody gave an answer to your request if long documentation could be manged by LyX. I only can agree that LyX is after my experiences much better to handle large docs than MS-Word or similar text processors. My degree encompassed about 110 pages including lots of tables. Especially one table was distributed about 11 pages without any problems. This doesn't mean that there were no problem (mostly fine tuning on the ground of LaTeX!), but on these occasions this list of LyX lovers proved to be a reliable source of any needed solution! To sum up, there is less good choice to create vast documents without LyX. Thomas
Re: TOC questions
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 02:51:59PM -0800, Mohammad Reza Danesh wrote:
I'm still stuck with the problem I posted couple of days before and can not
find a solution for it. The problem is that I don't want the content entry
in the TOC. I have 2 included files before TOC and 8 files after that, and I
have no idea how to remove the entry from the TOC. My experience with Latex is
limited to Lyx and what I have learned from this list, so ...
I have tried to change my document class from book to report with no success.
Does anyone out there has a solution for this?
In the book class there is no Contents entry in the TOC.
If you wish to remove the big Contents header at the top of the page
(before the TOC starts) then add the following lines to the preamble:
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
\clearpage%
\@starttoc{toc}%
}
Vertical alignment of images in tables
Hi, I need to put two images of different sizes in a row of a table. I'd like to be able to choose the vertical alignment of the shortest image (by default it's on the bottom). Anybody can help? Thanks! Stefano _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Thursday 15 November 2001 16:52, Juergen Fenn wrote: Hello, is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 pages? TIA. Regards, Juergen. I just remembered something about long documents. As you go past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. Therefore, if your book goes much over 100,000 words, you'll want to follow the instructions on http://www.lyx.org/help/ to split the file into separate part or chapter files. Steve -- Steve Litt Webmaster, Troubleshooters.Com http://www.troubleshooters.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Yesterday, +0100, Juergen Fenn wrote: is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 pages? One book with 450 pages, now I'm preparing the second one - only 350 pages :-) I cannot imagine writing WITHOUT LyX. Sasa
Re: Dual TOC's
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists the chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out blank. Any ideas? Use the shorttoc package.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve I just remembered something about long documents. As you go Steve past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with Steve increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 Steve seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file Steve consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx Steve window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. Do you have such a document? Were the words all in one big paragraph? It would be interesting to profile. I think that the huge paragraph model is more than linear, but complexity should be linear for normally-sized paragraphs. JMarc
Lyx under MAC OS X
Hello people, I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? Best regards Christian
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:07:33AM -0500, Christian Sandmann wrote: I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? Does Mac OS X have an X server? Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X [info]
||Does Mac OS X have an X server? It seems one could use http://www.xfree86.org/, following instructions given at http://www.macosxhints.com/. Info from a fellow Darwin user (not me).
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:07:33AM -0500, Christian Sandmann wrote: I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? Does Mac OS X have an X server? No! it runs Aqua on top of darwin. (and Aqua is a much nicer environment than X...) Andre' Using fink-tools and their X-Server for OsX (sorry, I don't have the URL ready, ask google or find your way via www.macgimp.org) LyX is compilable and runs as well, though I like it much better in Linux (PPC). Integration of latex and all the ps-stuff is much more seamless in linux. Interaction and sahring data between Aqua and X is a bit strange in OsX.. Have fun Niklas
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X [info]
DUVAL Laurent wrote: ||Does Mac OS X have an X server? It seems one could use http://www.xfree86.org/, following instructions given at http://www.macosxhints.com/. Info from a fellow Darwin user (not me). also have a look at http://www.lyx.org/help/misc/mac.html Herbert
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Friday 16 November 2001 09:15, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve I just remembered something about long documents. As you go Steve past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with Steve increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 Steve seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file Steve consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx Steve window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. Do you have such a document? Were the words all in one big paragraph? It would be interesting to profile. I think that the huge paragraph model is more than linear, but complexity should be linear for normally-sized paragraphs. JMarc My program to generate a test LyX doc is called makelyxbook.cpp, which you can copy from http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm. The makelyxbook.cpp program is licensed GPL, so you're free to copy, modify and distribute it, within the guidelines of the GPL. To answer your question, it fairly well represents the structure of a normal book, and its constants can be manipulated to better mimic your exact situation. Steve -- Steve Litt Webmaster, Troubleshooters.Com http://www.troubleshooters.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Steve == Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve My program to generate a test LyX doc is called Steve makelyxbook.cpp, which you can copy from Steve http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm. The Steve makelyxbook.cpp program is licensed GPL, so you're free to Steve copy, modify and distribute it, within the guidelines of the Steve GPL. To answer your question, it fairly well represents the Steve structure of a normal book, and its constants can be Steve manipulated to better mimic your exact situation. Many thanks. Will make a great profiling testbed. JMarc
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Am 16.11.01, 14:04:17, schrieb thomas schönhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] zum Thema Re: Using LyX for Long Documents: nearly everybody gave an answer to your request if long documentation could be manged by LyX. I only can agree that LyX is after my experiences much better to handle large docs than MS-Word or similar text processors. Hi *, Thanks to everyone on the list for answering. Well, there seem to be some more people working on long docs out there. :-) It is good news to learn that LyX works fine for this as I would like to use LaTeX to write my thesis, however I am looking for an editor that provides at least _some_ kind of an optical impression as far as document layout is concerned. So I probably will give LyX a try. Again, thank you very much for answering to all. Regards, Juergen.
Translation of LaTeX to LyX comments and back
Hi, I have again been urged to use vim for editing some document on my archaic notebook (where I use M$-DOS and vim) and I was against unpleasantly surprised, that LyX still does not provide interoperability between LyX and LaTeX in terms of comments. Do you think, that it would be really so hard to implement a translation of any LyX note (Insert/Note) into LaTeX comment (with %) and vice versa? It would make things hugely better for me. Thanks Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. -- Barry Goldwater (actually written by Karl Hess)
Re: ?s with table captions, table text justification, double rows, math cases and more
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:52:59PM -0700, John Boik wrote: I want to get table text to be \rightragged, not horizontally centered. If I type in \rightragged in the alignment box of the table popup, it does not work. Any other ideas? Yes, and that is exactly what I have written to you. Carefully select all fields in the particular column (so that they are blue), then go to Layout/Tabular and in the frame H. Alignment select Right. What's wrong with that? intended second line down below the intended first line in the column. Where is the linebreaks button, or what else am I doing wrong? Fill the column with the content, then select it and set in the field Width the width, which the column is to take. That's it. LyX will break the lines appropriately. Matej wrote: Section 4.4.4 in your User Guide. As per my original posting I have read this but it did not help. The previous paragraph of mine is by the section 4.4.4 of Guide. Which version of LyX do you have? If not 1.1.6fix, go and upgrade. Alt-C,arrow-up That seems to work, but only for one word at a time. Yup, that's it. I am sorry. You can use \linewidth as a unit (so, .55\linewidth is a legal expression for the column width). This did not seem to work for me. If I type in .55\linewidth in the width box of the table popup, it tells me that it is an invalid format. Herbert says it must be done manually by specifying the width in mm or similar units. You are probably right and LyX doesn't support this. Sorry. Have a nice day Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 A nation or civilization that continues to produce soft-minded men purchases its own spiritual death on an installment plan. --Martin Luther King, Jr.
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Richard A. Bilonick wrote: Why is it so difficult to place figures and tables in a sensible location? I have placed the tables and figures exactly where I want them to be. LyX (or Latex) puts them in ridiculous locations. It places tables very far from where they are inserted. It often puts some figures in different sections. I need to have a number figures and tables like this: if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H for single floats. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats/floats.php3 Herbert
Re: Dual TOC's
Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 16 November 2001 09:10, Dekel Tsur wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists the chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out blank. Any ideas? Use the shorttoc package. I got shorttoc.sty off CTAN, but where does one put shorttoc.sty? If possible I'd like to put it in my ~/.lyx tree, rather than strongarming it into the /usr tree. /usr/local/texmf/tex/latex/ Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Richard A. Bilonick wrote: Why is it so difficult to place figures and tables in a sensible location? I have placed the tables and figures exactly where I want them to be. LyX (or Latex) puts them in ridiculous locations. It places tables very far from where they are inserted. It often puts some figures in different sections. I need to have a number figures and tables like this: if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H for single floats. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats.floats.php3 Herbert
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents (long)
Paul Borgermans wrote:
I also used some more raw LaTeX in the main document:
\frontmatter for the introductory part
\mainmatter for the body
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Appendix} inside the appendix (defined
with the LyX menus Layout-Toggle Appendix)
this should be the default in latex
I also used \thispagestyle{empty} or \thispagestyle{plain} for some
introductory material:
- a page with a dedication
- a page with the jury members (section*)
- the summary (chapter*)
- table of contents
- list of figures and list of tables (with forced pagebreaks).
use komascript classes. there you have different pages for title,
backtitle a.s.o.
Makes life easier.
Herbert
--
http://www.lyx.org/help/
How to apply spelling within tables
Hi: does anyone know what can I do to be able to check spelling within table floats in lyx 1.1.6.fix3 Thanks
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Herbert Voss wrote: if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H ^ other ... Herbert, who needs weekend -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Dual TOC's
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 11:47:52AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 16 November 2001 09:10, Dekel Tsur wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists the chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out blank. Any ideas? Use the shorttoc package. I got shorttoc.sty off CTAN, but where does one put shorttoc.sty? If possible I'd like to put it in my ~/.lyx tree, rather than strongarming it into the /usr tree. You can put it anywhere as long as you have your TEXINPUTS environment variable set up correctly. ---Kayvan -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | crown of her husband | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents (long)
Herbert Voss wrote:
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{Appendix} inside the appendix (defined
with the LyX menus Layout-Toggle Appendix)
This was necessary because I used the titlesec package to mimic the
koma-script lay-out and added some enhancements on the fly (like the option to
have quotes on the part pages.
this should be the default in latex
I also used \thispagestyle{empty} or \thispagestyle{plain} for some
introductory material:
- a page with a dedication
- a page with the jury members (section*)
- the summary (chapter*)
- table of contents
- list of figures and list of tables (with forced pagebreaks).
use komascript classes. there you have different pages for title,
backtitle a.s.o.
Makes life easier.
That's what I tried initially, but the koma-script classes clashed with other
special classes that I wanted to include too (don't remember which ones
exactly). I used the koma-script class for the cover page in a seperate LyX file.
Herbert
Paul
Re: How to apply spelling within tables
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 06:15:12PM +0100, Salvador Olmos wrote: does anyone know what can I do to be able to check spelling within table floats in lyx 1.1.6.fix3 you can't sorry - it's a missing feature in 1.1.6 As a workaround you can export to another format such as latex or ascii, then spell check that. I know this is not ideal. regards john -- Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons.
Re: Bibliography styles...
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:03:14PM +0100, ben wrote: Thanks very much! That's what I need, even if I must patch some things because the package expects to use external bib files (and I must have the bibliography items in the main file). No problem -- the .bbl file (there may be more of them with bibtopic) is just the stuff which can replace the \bibliography in the end of your document. So you can develop your paper with all luxury of bibtex databases, and than send to your publisher .bbl file together with the rest (or edit .tex file and replace \bibliography and \bibliographystyle with the content of .bbl file). Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? -- Thomas Jefferson, in his 1801 inaugural address
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Absolutely! Did my PhD thesis with LyX: around 170 pages with lots of figures, formulas, ... Paul Juergen Fenn wrote: > Hello, > > is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? > > Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 > pages? > > TIA. > > Regards, > Juergen. > > > >
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
> > >> > >I'm writing my MSc thesis with LyX. Only 69 pages so far, but it works just >as well as for shorter documents. I don't see any problem here. > > > Hello, nearly everybody gave an answer to your request if long documentation could be manged by LyX. I only can agree that LyX is after my experiences much better to handle large docs than MS-Word or similar text processors. My degree encompassed about 110 pages including lots of tables. Especially one table was distributed about 11 pages without any problems. This doesn't mean that there were no problem (mostly fine tuning on the ground of LaTeX!), but on these occasions this list of LyX lovers proved to be a reliable source of any needed solution! To sum up, there is less good choice to create vast documents without LyX. Thomas
Re: TOC questions
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 02:51:59PM -0800, Mohammad Reza Danesh wrote:
> I'm still stuck with the problem I posted couple of days before and can not
> find a solution for it. The problem is that I don't want the "content" entry
> in the TOC. I have 2 included files before TOC and 8 files after that, and I
> have no idea how to remove the entry from the TOC. My experience with Latex is
> limited to Lyx and what I have learned from this list, so ...
> I have tried to change my document class from book to report with no success.
> Does anyone out there has a solution for this?
In the book class there is no Contents entry in the TOC.
If you wish to remove the big Contents header at the top of the page
(before the TOC starts) then add the following lines to the preamble:
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{%
\clearpage%
\@starttoc{toc}%
}
Vertical alignment of images in tables
Hi, I need to put two images of different sizes in a row of a table. I'd like to be able to choose the vertical alignment of the shortest image (by default it's on the bottom). Anybody can help? Thanks! Stefano _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Thursday 15 November 2001 16:52, Juergen Fenn wrote: > Hello, > > is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? > > Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 > pages? > > TIA. > > Regards, > Juergen. I just remembered something about long documents. As you go past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. Therefore, if your book goes much over 100,000 words, you'll want to follow the instructions on http://www.lyx.org/help/ to split the file into separate part or chapter files. Steve -- Steve Litt Webmaster, Troubleshooters.Com http://www.troubleshooters.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Yesterday, +0100, Juergen Fenn wrote: > is LyX a good choice for writing long documents? > > Has anybody ever tried to write a paper in LyX that is longer than 100 > pages? One book with 450 pages, now I'm preparing the second one - only 350 pages :-) I cannot imagine writing WITHOUT LyX. Sasa
Re: Dual TOC's
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists the > chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. > > I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out > blank. Any ideas? Use the shorttoc package.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
> "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> I just remembered something about long documents. As you go Steve> past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with Steve> increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 Steve> seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file Steve> consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx Steve> window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. Do you have such a document? Were the words all in one big paragraph? It would be interesting to profile. I think that the huge paragraph model is more than linear, but complexity should be linear for normally-sized paragraphs. JMarc
Lyx under MAC OS X
Hello people, I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? Best regards Christian
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:07:33AM -0500, Christian Sandmann wrote: > I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC > OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I > have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? Does Mac OS X have an X server? Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X [info]
||Does Mac OS X have an X server? It seems one could use http://www.xfree86.org/, following instructions given at http://www.macosxhints.com/. Info from a fellow Darwin user (not me).
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X
Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:07:33AM -0500, Christian Sandmann wrote: > >>I was wondering if anybody has experiences to run Lyx with the new MAC >>OS X. OS X is based on Unix so I would guess it should be possible but I >>have no idea how to install and to compile it. Any idea? >> > > Does Mac OS X have an X server? > No! it runs Aqua on top of darwin. (and Aqua is a much nicer environment than X...) > Andre' > Using fink-tools and their X-Server for OsX (sorry, I don't have the URL ready, ask google or find your way via www.macgimp.org) LyX is compilable and runs as well, though I like it much better in Linux (PPC). Integration of latex and all the ps-stuff is much more seamless in linux. Interaction and sahring data between Aqua and X is a bit strange in OsX.. Have fun Niklas
Re: Lyx under MAC OS X [info]
DUVAL Laurent wrote: >||Does Mac OS X have an X server? > >It seems one could use http://www.xfree86.org/, >following instructions given at http://www.macosxhints.com/. >Info from a fellow Darwin user (not me). > also have a look at http://www.lyx.org/help/misc/mac.html Herbert
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
On Friday 16 November 2001 09:15, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Steve> I just remembered something about long documents. As you go > Steve> past 100,000 words, rendering time starts escalating with > Steve> increasing rapidity. Thus at 100,000 it renders in about 10 > Steve> seconds. At 117,000 it's about 15. I did tests with a test file > Steve> consisting of 500,000 words, rendering (either changing the lyx > Steve> window size or converting to Postscript) takes several minutes. > > Do you have such a document? Were the words all in one big paragraph? > It would be interesting to profile. I think that the huge paragraph > model is more than linear, but complexity should be linear for > normally-sized paragraphs. > > JMarc My program to generate a test LyX doc is called makelyxbook.cpp, which you can copy from http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm. The makelyxbook.cpp program is licensed GPL, so you're free to copy, modify and distribute it, within the guidelines of the GPL. To answer your question, it fairly well represents the structure of a normal book, and its constants can be manipulated to better mimic your exact situation. Steve -- Steve Litt Webmaster, Troubleshooters.Com http://www.troubleshooters.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk.
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
> "Steve" == Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> My program to generate a test LyX doc is called Steve> makelyxbook.cpp, which you can copy from Steve> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm. The Steve> makelyxbook.cpp program is licensed GPL, so you're free to Steve> copy, modify and distribute it, within the guidelines of the Steve> GPL. To answer your question, it fairly well represents the Steve> structure of a normal book, and its constants can be Steve> manipulated to better mimic your exact situation. Many thanks. Will make a great profiling testbed. JMarc
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents
Am 16.11.01, 14:04:17, schrieb thomas schönhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> zum Thema Re: Using LyX for Long Documents: > nearly everybody gave an answer to your request if long documentation > could be manged by LyX. I only can agree that LyX is after my > experiences much better to handle large docs than MS-Word or similar > text processors. Hi *, Thanks to everyone on the list for answering. Well, there seem to be some more people working on long docs out there. :-) It is good news to learn that LyX works fine for this as I would like to use LaTeX to write my thesis, however I am looking for an editor that provides at least _some_ kind of an optical impression as far as document layout is concerned. So I probably will give LyX a try. Again, thank you very much for answering to all. Regards, Juergen.
Translation of LaTeX to LyX comments and back
Hi, I have again been urged to use vim for editing some document on my archaic notebook (where I use M$-DOS and vim) and I was against unpleasantly surprised, that LyX still does not provide interoperability between LyX and LaTeX in terms of comments. Do you think, that it would be really so hard to implement a translation of any LyX note (Insert/Note) into LaTeX comment (with %) and vice versa? It would make things hugely better for me. Thanks Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. -- Barry Goldwater (actually written by Karl Hess)
Re: ?s with table captions, table text justification, double rows, math cases and more
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:52:59PM -0700, John Boik wrote: > I want to get table text to be \rightragged, not horizontally > centered. If I type in "\rightragged" in the alignment box of > the table popup, it does not work. Any other ideas? Yes, and that is exactly what I have written to you. Carefully select all fields in the particular column (so that they are blue), then go to Layout/Tabular and in the frame H. Alignment select Right. What's wrong with that? > intended second line down below the intended first line in the > column. Where is the linebreaks button, or what else am I doing > wrong? Fill the column with the content, then select it and set in the field Width the width, which the column is to take. That's it. LyX will break the lines appropriately. > > Matej wrote: > > >Section 4.4.4 in your User Guide.< > > As per my original posting I have read this but it did not > help. The previous paragraph of mine is by the section 4.4.4 of Guide. Which version of LyX do you have? If not 1.1.6fix, go and upgrade. > >Alt-C,< > > That seems to work, but only for one word at a time. Yup, that's it. I am sorry. > >You can use \linewidth as a unit (so, .55\linewidth is a legal > expression for the column width).< > > This did not seem to work for me. If I type in ".55\linewidth" > in the width box of the table popup, it tells me that it is an > invalid format. Herbert says it must be done manually by > specifying the width in mm or similar units. You are probably right and LyX doesn't support this. Sorry. Have a nice day Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 A nation or civilization that continues to produce soft-minded men purchases its own spiritual death on an installment plan. --Martin Luther King, Jr.
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Richard A. Bilonick wrote: >Why is it so difficult to place figures and tables in a sensible location? > >I have placed the tables and figures exactly where I want them to be. LyX (or >Latex) puts them in ridiculous locations. It places tables very far from >where they are inserted. It often puts some figures in different sections. > >I need to have a number figures and tables like this: > if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H for single floats. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats/floats.php3 Herbert
Re: Dual TOC's
Steve Litt wrote: >On Friday 16 November 2001 09:10, Dekel Tsur wrote: > >>On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists >>>the chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. >>> >>>I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out >>>blank. Any ideas? >>> >>Use the shorttoc package. >> > >I got shorttoc.sty off CTAN, but where does one put shorttoc.sty? If possible >I'd like to put it in my ~/.lyx tree, rather than strongarming it into the >/usr tree. > /usr/local/texmf/tex/latex/ Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Richard A. Bilonick wrote: >Why is it so difficult to place figures and tables in a sensible location? > >I have placed the tables and figures exactly where I want them to be. LyX (or >Latex) puts them in ridiculous locations. It places tables very far from >where they are inserted. It often puts some figures in different sections. > >I need to have a number figures and tables like this: > if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H for single floats. http://www.lyx.org/help/floats.floats.php3 Herbert
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents (long)
Paul Borgermans wrote:
>
> I also used some more raw LaTeX in the main document:
>
> \frontmatter for the introductory part
>
> \mainmatter for the body
>
> \renewcommand{\chaptername}{Appendix} inside the appendix (defined
> with the LyX menus Layout->Toggle Appendix)
this should be the default in latex
> I also used \thispagestyle{empty} or \thispagestyle{plain} for some
> introductory material:
> - a page with a dedication
> - a page with the jury members (section*)
> - the summary (chapter*)
> - table of contents
> - list of figures and list of tables (with forced pagebreaks).
use komascript classes. there you have different pages for title,
backtitle a.s.o.
Makes life easier.
Herbert
--
http://www.lyx.org/help/
How to apply spelling within tables
Hi: does anyone know what can I do to be able to check spelling within table floats in lyx 1.1.6.fix3 Thanks
Re: Placing Figures and Tables
Herbert Voss wrote: > if you don't need the floating, than use package nonfloat if you > need captions. On the hand you can use package float with option H ^ other ... Herbert, who needs weekend -- http://www.lyx.org/help/
Re: Dual TOC's
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 11:47:52AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Friday 16 November 2001 09:10, Dekel Tsur wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:54:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Most modern technical books have two tables of contents -- one that lists > > > the chapters, and one that goes down a couple more levels. > > > > > > I tried this with LyX, using but the second table of contents comes out > > > blank. Any ideas? > > > > Use the shorttoc package. > > I got shorttoc.sty off CTAN, but where does one put shorttoc.sty? If possible > I'd like to put it in my ~/.lyx tree, rather than strongarming it into the > /usr tree. You can put it anywhere as long as you have your TEXINPUTS environment variable set up correctly. ---Kayvan -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc. | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89) http://sylvan.com/~kayvan | "crown of her husband" | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)
Re: Using LyX for Long Documents (long)
Herbert Voss wrote:
>> \renewcommand{\chaptername}{Appendix} inside the appendix (defined
>> with the LyX menus Layout->Toggle Appendix)
>
This was necessary because I used the titlesec package to mimic the
koma-script lay-out and added some enhancements on the fly (like the option to
have quotes on the part pages.
> this should be the default in latex
>
>> I also used \thispagestyle{empty} or \thispagestyle{plain} for some
>> introductory material:
>> - a page with a dedication
>> - a page with the jury members (section*)
>> - the summary (chapter*)
>> - table of contents
>> - list of figures and list of tables (with forced pagebreaks).
>
>
> use komascript classes. there you have different pages for title,
> backtitle a.s.o.
> Makes life easier.
That's what I tried initially, but the koma-script classes clashed with other
special classes that I wanted to include too (don't remember which ones
exactly). I used the koma-script class for the cover page in a seperate LyX file.
> Herbert
>
Paul
Re: How to apply spelling within tables
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 06:15:12PM +0100, Salvador Olmos wrote: > does anyone know what can I do to be able to check > spelling within table floats in lyx 1.1.6.fix3 you can't sorry - it's a missing feature in 1.1.6 As a workaround you can export to another format such as latex or ascii, then spell check that. I know this is not ideal. regards john -- "Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons."
Re: Bibliography styles...
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:03:14PM +0100, ben wrote: > Thanks very much! That's what I need, even if I must patch some > things because the package expects to use external bib files > (and I must have the bibliography items in the main file). No problem -- the .bbl file (there may be more of them with bibtopic) is just the stuff which can replace the \bibliography in the end of your document. So you can develop your paper with all luxury of bibtex databases, and than send to your publisher .bbl file together with the rest (or edit .tex file and replace \bibliography and \bibliographystyle with the content of .bbl file). Best, Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? -- Thomas Jefferson, in his 1801 inaugural address
