Re: [M100] is the m100 a trs-80? In walks like a, not is categorized as a

[David Szasz]

Interesting discussion, but it's all a little like saying which came first
"chicken or the egg."  Without BASIC the model 100 would have no charm at
all.

BTW: I see from the auction link for the Bill Gates Model 100 that it sold
for around  $30K. That reminds me of many Ebay auction prices I've seen!

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 3:54 PM Brian K. White  wrote:

> On 10/6/22 15:09, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
> > "HH/OS (Hand Held OS)"
> >
> > Probably better to keep it always abbreviated, at least for the 600 ;-)
> >
> > I guess the 600 is more hand-held than, say, a Compaq or Kaypro luggable.
> >
> > -- John.
>
>
> It is quite difficult to hold it in merely one hand. It's like over 9
> lbs? You need at least an arm. Arm Held OS? Back Packable OS?
>
> I know what it's rightful name is, Donky Back OS
>
> --
> bkw
>
>

Re: [M100] Planning out some weekend projects.

[David Szasz]

Your project "todo" list is very concise. Reviewing the "Retro-Printer",
you will also have to purchase, set up, and learn the Raspberry Pi
ecosystem to use it. A humble alternative is to redirect the printout from
your model 100 via a null modem cable to an empty file on your personal
computer via the serial terminal on that personal computer (or removable
memory device).  That would require a highly modified "PRINT" or "PRINT
USING" command which is beyond my age-addled mind at the moment. Or just
print or save to an empty file on model 100 and transfer that separately.
Since you would be most concerned with program listings, just saving the
listing to a text file and transferring that back to your desktop PC is the
cheapest and most expedient solution.

Regards, good luck

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 2:02 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:

> 36 dollars just for that?! For god's sake, you should have asked us first,
> there's lots of other places.
>
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 at 17:03, Will Senn  wrote:
>
>> I'm loving my m100. It's an endless source of fascination - very old
>> school, but amazingly well preserved and usable. I haven't done much with
>> it beyond learning about how to connect it to my Mac via serial - which
>> works flawlessly in both directions with TEENY.CO and dl, yay, running
>> stuff from club100 on it - go Starblaze :), and refreshing on BASIC sans
>> renum and tron/troff! Mostly, I've been reading everything in sight
>> (virtually speaking) and preparing to dive into its software guts more
>> seriously - quickly moving into 8085 territory.
>>
>> BTW, I did get my BASIC banner program written and working as I remember
>> it did in the 1984 timeframe based on the bitmaps in ROM (basically just
>> asks for a string, get's each character of the string's character map, asks
>> the user for a character to print and one to not print, pixel on char and
>> pixel off char, asks for a multiplier, then prints to screen with the
>> multiplier applied in both rows and columns, nothing fancy) - thanks for
>> pointing me to the ROM address of the characters set. But other than that,
>> It's all been reading and planning... which brings me to the weekend
>> projects I have mapped out for the next bit of time:
>>
>> 1. Get a REXCPM (ordered up) installed and running doing whatever it is
>> that it does :).
>> 2. Get a Retro Printer and Centronix-Parallel printer cable ordered
>> (saving up), installed, and running. Hopefully, it's like having an Epson
>> MX-80 without the noise, greenbar and ribbon fuss. I do still want to print
>> out pages and pages of dot matrix listings, but to my laser printer!
>> 3. Make a new Cassette Cable for my Califone AVR tape recorder which has
>> MIC, not LINE. Got a plan, need cables - sheesh, amazon is expensive for 5
>> pin DIN male aluminum solderable, 2.5mm TS mono, 3.5 mm TS mono, 1/4 inch
>> mono cable, and  570M ohm resistor ($36 USD). but I want to try the DIY
>> route and I don't know where else to look for this kinda stuff... Yeah, I
>> know cassettes are so 70's, but hey I wanna see it work in 2022 and compare
>> the experience with my PAL-1 (KIM-1) cassette stuff - which was dismal -
>> very, very unreliable and fickle. I'm hoping to learn a bit, play a bit,
>> and have it actually work more often than not.
>> 4. Write a disassembler or maybe even a monitor for the M100 based on
>> what I've read about (Jake Commander's article) and experienced KIM-1,
>> Apple ii-e, Commodore, etc. Surely, I don't have to live in BASIC?
>> 5. Disassemble the M100 ROM - I know it's been done before, but surely I
>> can do it too, right?
>>
>> That's what I have planned anyway, as it proceeds, I'm sure I'll get
>> distracted with shiny objects and other interests, but hey, better to have
>> a plan than not! This weekend, I have to update a couple of Research Unix
>> howtos (v6 and v7), so I doubt I'll get much m100 stuff, but I just might
>> :).
>>
>> Here are a few questions related to the plan - please feel free to answer
>> them or to make comments or suggestions related to the plan!
>>
>> q1. Will the retroprinter let me print reams of dot matrix pages to laser
>> printer or do I have to go to PDF and then print the PDF?
>> q2. Is there a monitor for the M100 available?
>> q3. Does anybody know of any available commercial assembler that runs on
>> the M100 (I know about cross assemblers, but that's not what I'm looking
>> for here and I know about cmzasm.ba, and byteit.ba, I'm looking for
>> something commercial  - say the Tandy Assembler or the Custom Software
>> Assembler)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Will
>>
>

Re: [M100] Another slabtop? Or pc screen extension?

[David Szasz]

Regarding the "slabtop" from the orig. post. Looking at it from a price vs.
performance standpoint it may be better (& cheaper) to buy a tablet and
Bluetooth keyboard. That would give versatility, choice of OS and "more
bang for the buck".
I could change my mind based on an excellent mechanical keyboard, build
quality, etc... Probably not something you'd keep for 40 years and build an
online community around.

As for any Raspberry PI these days, try to find one w/o paying a premium.
(Though a RasPi 400 w/ 8 gigs would be nice!)

Cheers
Dave

On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 10:56 PM Ariel Millennium Thornton <
arie...@thornton2.com> wrote:

> The Raspberry Pi 400?
>
> I got one of those last summer and poked at it daily for light office
> stuff.  It's a great little computer with a fantastic profile.
> Aesthetically, it feels like it's begging me to stick it and a display
> to a board and turn it into a slabtop.
>
> However, the keyboard mechanism feels like it isn't up to the task of
> even light writing or occasional programming.  The keys don't always
> register when pressed, even though the keys feel great, and the D key in
> particular on mine has been that way since I took it out of the box.
>
> ~ArielMT
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:12:39 -0400, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
>
> > Anyone try the red and white Raspberry PI PC?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 5:26 PM John R. Hogerhuis 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What was wrong with it? I watched a YouTube review, the guy thought
> > > the build quality was great but that it needed dedicated software
> > > (presumably on the desktop side).
> > >
> > > -- John.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 1:17 PM Alastair Wiggins
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I bought one from Amazon. It wasn't cheap and the quality was
> > >> awful.
> > >>
> > >> Returned to Amazon for a full refund!
> > >>
> > >> Alastair
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> -- Forwarded message --
> > >>> From: "John R. Hogerhuis" 
> > >>> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> > >>> Cc:
> > >>> Bcc:
> > >>> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 13:16:48 -0700
> > >>> Subject: [M100] Another slabtop? Or pc screen extension?
> > >>> Ain't that pretty?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> https://gagadget.com/en/156042-ficihip-mechanical-keyboard-has-an-integrated-126-inch-touchscreen-display/
> > >>>
> > >>> Not sure what it can actually do.
> > >>>
> > >>> -- John.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
>

[M100] Building Virtual T For Linux Mint?

[David Szasz]

Hi:

I'm new to the Virtual T emulator.  Can one use the build procedure for
Ubuntu as outlined in "Bitchin100" for Linux Mint (as it was developed from
Ubuntu)? Or are there alternate steps to build for Linux Mint?

I rarely post to the forum so bear with me.

Thanks
Dave NV3F

Re: [M100] Books on programming

[David Szasz]

I have a paper copy of the Hartnell book. It has a brief section in the
beginning outlining adapting the listings to other systems. At the end of
the book is a table on what commands to switch out to get things to work.
No direct conversions to a Tandy basic are shown, however they are all
variations on a Microsoft Basic I assume

DS

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 11:49 AM James Zeun  wrote:

> Basic Computer Games by David H.
>
>
> Would the programs in this book work ok on the M100?
>
> I've read it's aimed at an Altair 8080.
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 7:42 am James Zeun,  wrote:
>
>> Dragon #74
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:56 am Peter Vollan,  wrote:
>>
>>> What edition do you use?
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Great, I'll have to check that out!
>>> >
>>> > I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested to
>>> me.
>>> >
>>> > Really difficult to find physically books.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret,  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D
>>> >>
>>> >> /CAM
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun  wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about
>>> roleplaying?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > Dragon.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Is that the one from the dungeon magazine?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service
>>> debugged
>>> >> > >> and working on Virtual T.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on
>>> there, but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > 
>>> >> > >> > The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not
>>> long, but I don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send
>>> it to the list.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan <
>>> dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut that
>>> text out
>>> >> > >> >> of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together in
>>> a text
>>> >> > >> >> file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? I
>>> just ran
>>> >> > >> >> it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command
>>> "randomize".
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> I did the same thing with a program to generated character
>>> for TSR's
>>> >> > >> >> Top Secret RPG, and then adapted it for the Model 100. It
>>> looks at the
>>> >> > >> >> tail end of TIME$ to randomise from 1 to 10 and then goes
>>> through that
>>> >> > >> >> many random numbers. It is on my Club 100 member page, but
>>> the member
>>> >> > >> >> pages are unfortunately down just now.
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> I know that there is a program that does exactly what you
>>> describe
>>> >> > >> >> called D20.BA. I don't know how it randomises.
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> I am interested in that program to generate treasure. BTW it
>>> is called
>>> >> > >> >> a treasure "hoard".
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:15, Jason Paul 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > In most cases the syntax could change but the command
>>> should mostly be the same. Depending on what machine you're using that
>>> particular book was published with versions for specific Basics Commodore
>>> Atari Apple TRS-80 etc.
>>> >> > >> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > Do a Google search for Dragon magazine 74 PDF and there
>>> should be a program listing that is a dungeon Master's kind of utility
>>> program. It's not the only one. Don't be confused by the battle computer
>>> that is really just a slotted wheel for determining combat to hit
>>> percentages.
>>> >> > >> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 4:10 PM James Zeun <
>>> james.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> >> It says for the TRS80 Model 3... I'm assuming that would
>>> still be alright?
>>> >> > >> >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm Ken Pettit, <
>>> petti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> >>>
>>> >> > >> >> >>> Hi James,
>>> >> > >> >> >>>
>>> >> > >> >> >>> I just remembered the title.  It is "Golden Flutes and
>>> Great Escapes":
>>> >> > >> >> >>>
>>> >> > >> >> >>>
>>> http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf
>>> >> > >> >> >>>
>>> >> > >> >> >>> Ken
>>> >> > >> >> >>>
>>> >> > >> >> >>> On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> >>>
>>> >> > >> >> >>> Yes please! That would 

Re: [M100] In the hospital

[David Szasz]

Good luck Ken, I had a heart catheterization back in March, awake thru the
whole thing, quite the sobering experience seeing my partially blocked
ticker on the monitor.The tech is greatly improved even over a few years
ago. Pay attention to what the docs say and ask questions.

Best Regards
Dave Szasz

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 7:47 AM Anthony Coghlan  wrote:

> Keeping you in thoughts, Ken, and trusting that all will come out very
> well.  Can’t wait to hear confirmation of just how great everything went,
> and to have you back fully recovered.
>
> Best wishes,
> Anthony
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 19, 2019, Ken Pettit  wrote:
>
>> Hey Gang,
>>
>> I had to come to the hospital again on Wednesday because of cardio
>> issues.  After the angiogram yesterday, the Dr. told me I need bypass
>> surgery, which they will schedule for sometime early next week.  I'm still
>> hanging out here while waiting, which is kinda why I have time to send
>> emails on the list :)
>>
>> Just wanted everyone to know in case things don't go well and you never
>> hear from me again, at least you will know what happened. Only a small
>> chance of that though ... they do a LOT of open heart surgery per day here
>> (successfully), so they are pretty good at it.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>

Re: [M100] Tandy Assembly 2019 Sep 27-29, 2019 in Springfield, OH

[David Szasz]

Jeffrey:

As I mentioned to Randy Kindig yesterday at our Indy Retro Club meeting I'm
planning on attending Tandy Assembly this year. If you need an Olivetti
MC10, NEC8201, 8300, Starlett or one of the Tandy machines I'm in!. (Also
have a Z88, NC100, QuickPAD or other "slabtop" computers. Am happy to
contribute to table fees as needed.

Regards
D. Szasz NV3F

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Birt  wrote:

> Josh, I am planning on being there. I grew up just up the road a bit so it
> will be a good chance to be a nerd and visit family too. If you want to
> contact me off list (and have a PayPal account) I’ll send you some money to
> help cover the table costs.
>
>
>
> Jeff_Birt (Hey Birt!)
>
>
>
> *From:* M100  *On Behalf Of *Randall
> Kindig
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2019 8:44 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Tandy Assembly 2019 Sep 27-29, 2019 in Springfield,
> OH
>
>
>
> Josh, the Tandy Assembly Team is good with you having 2 tables.  As you
> said, cost is $30/table.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 7:23 PM Josh Malone  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 5:22 PM Jeffrey Birt  wrote:
> >
> > I neglected to respond sooner. What is the cost of the exhibit? I’ll
> chip in.
>
> The cost is $30 per table I think. I've inquired about getting 2
> tables -- that should accommodate a reasonable number of exhibits.
> Haven't heard back though.
>
> Are you planning to be at TASM?
>
> -Josh
>
> --
>
> Randy
>

Re: [M100] The Holy Grail: Mikrokolor Color Interface on Ebay

[David Szasz]

Here's the links to the 80 Micro magazine May and June of 83 for their
articles on building your own Mikrokolor and programs for it (in case you
want to roll your own)

https://archive.org/details/80-microcomputing-magazine-1983-05/page/n223
https://archive.org/details/80-microcomputing-magazine-1983-SE

Musings on video out:
I have been dabbling as of late with a Tandy Color computer and through the
Indianapolis Retro Computer Club other machines with external video out.
The display really looks crappy on a modern HD monitor unless you go with
an upscaler unit to improve the resolution. RF output looks *really* bad
and composite to a lesser degree. Interesting note: Machines supporting
NTSC are about 25% faster over PAL due to the lower resolution of NTSC (Of
course that only helped users in N. America and Japan? I think). That's
something those of us with LCD screens never have to concern themselves
with.

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:40 PM Mike Stein  wrote:

> Duh; of course! I was thinking about non-Model T.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 17, 2019 8:03 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] The Holy Grail: Mikrokolor Color Interface on Ebay
>
> 200 has the same 40-pin header
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
>
> 
> Maybe the 102? What else uses a 40-pin header?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Stephen Adolph 
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 17, 2019 2:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] The Holy Grail: Mikrokolor Color Interface on Ebay
>
> In fact, I think the M100 version plugged into the expansion port, as
> indicated in the article here:
>
> http://www.trs-80.org/mikrokolor/
>
> This one isn't for M100.  Its for some other computer - model 1?
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 2:18 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
> Not clear to me that this was in fact for the M100?  Did it connect to the
> printer port?
>
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 2:05 PM John R. Hogerhuis 
> wrote:
>
> Wow never seen one of those! I'm not in acquisition mode but hopefully a
> club member gets it and shares their experience. Very rare and
> interesting.
>
> -- John.
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019, 5:43 AM David Szasz  wrote:
>
> Ok you guys, here it is. Of course it does not come with software but
> you're smart enough to reverse engineer?
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mikrokolor-Color-Interface-for-a-TRS-80-RARE/143255136222?hash=item215aabe7de:g:4LkAAOSwMrJc3X97=true
>
>

[M100] Posted Yesterday 05/16: Fast Company Magazine Homage to Model 100

[David Szasz]

This article was just posted on Fast Company business magazine website
yesterday. A nice homage piece to the Model 100. . . 37 years later, eat
your heart out *many* other computers!

She may be small, but mighty and well beloved.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90349201/heres-how-radioshack-sold-its-breakthrough-laptop-circa-1983

[M100] The Holy Grail: Mikrokolor Color Interface on Ebay

[David Szasz]

Ok you guys, here it is. Of course it does not come with software but
you're smart enough to reverse engineer?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mikrokolor-Color-Interface-for-a-TRS-80-RARE/143255136222?hash=item215aabe7de:g:4LkAAOSwMrJc3X97=true

Re: [M100] REX replaces internal RAM?

[David Szasz]

I got a REX last week from Arcadeshopper. It came really quick too with
excellent service. Now I just gotta get used to the "REXmgr"! Now my old
NADsbox will get a real workout.

Cheers
Dave S.

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 5:36 PM Jeffrey Birt  wrote:

> I think Arcadeshopper has both the RTEX and 8K RAM modules available.
> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/100-102-200/c/28313042/offset=0=nameAsc
> . It is my understanding that the REX copies all 32K or RAM to flash and
> back, i.e. backs up to RAM and restores it when you switch banks.
>
>
>
> Jeff_Birt (Hey Birt!)
>
>
>
> *From:* M100  *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Fezzler
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 21, 2019 4:28 PM
> *To:* Model 100 Discussion 
> *Subject:* [M100] REX replaces internal RAM?
>
>
>
> Does a REX completely replace/supplant the internal ram?
>
>
>
> If I have an old Model T with 8k and insert a REX does the computer run
> completely via REX?
>
>
>
> Are there Rex boards available?
>

Re: [M100] Can One Run CloudT Offline?

[David Szasz]

I saved it under https as a "page" in the bookmarks bar. Saving as straight
html or mhtml or as webpage seems to have no effect.

as H.M. "Howling Mad" Murdock would say

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:41 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> Does it make any difference if it is the http versus https scheme?
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 4:32 PM David Szasz  wrote:
>
>> John:
>>
>> It seems with my Asus Chromebox not connected to any networks (Ethernet
>> or wireless) one has to restart the computer disconnected to a network to
>> force CloudT to run offline in the Chrome browser. But work it does. This
>> is an older chromebox at this point so few things work offline anyway, but
>> CloudT being in browser seems to, just gotta slap it on the side like 60's
>> black and white TV (my parents used me as the "remote control")
>>
>> Saving CloudT to the home screen on my Moto G5 works in airplane mode too.
>>
>> Regards
>> D. Szasz
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:16 PM David Szasz  wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, just got back from grocery shopping at Kroger's
>>>
>>> I'll try the save to home screen for fix for a more aggressive cache.
>>> That being said I'd like to build "Mr. T" a raspi or sbc laptop or tablet
>>> with CloudT or VirtualT with GWBasic or PCBasic thrown in for good measure.
>>>
>>> I am such a 80's retro geek
>>> Thanks
>>> D. Szasz
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 4:04 PM John R. Hogerhuis 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 1:10 PM David Szasz  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This morning I was pondering if one could run CloudT Offline? Possibly
>>>>> using something called "NodeJS", that is to run javascript offline, maybe
>>>>> on a raspberry pi?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a thought any other ways of running javascript and CloutT
>>>>> offline?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hmm, well I just tried this in offline mode (network disconnected) on
>>>> my laptop in Chrome and it didn't work. I thought it did.
>>>>
>>>> But on my Moto G6 Play phone, CloudT stored as an home screen app loads
>>>> properly in Airplane mode. So saving as a home screen app caches more
>>>> aggressively, I guess.
>>>>
>>>> I need to add a appcache manifest, or the newer standard, a service
>>>> worker and it cache on Chrome desktop too.
>>>>
>>>> As to Node.JS, Node.JS is a combination Javascript runtime and package
>>>> management system. None of the CloudT javascript code runs in the server,
>>>> just in the browser, so it wouldn't benefit from the Node.JS javascript
>>>> engine.
>>>>
>>>> That said, Node.JS can run some simple webservers. CloudT at this point
>>>> is a static html + javascript site, which means it has no server side code.
>>>> So it would run locally under any web server and maybe even from a local
>>>> directory without trouble. But there are many webservers that will run on a
>>>> Pi. The benefit of Node.JS would be if you want to access some hardware.
>>>> Say a physical serial port. It could be exposed to CloudT from Node.js
>>>> "SerialPort" library as a Websocket to the front end running as a web app.
>>>>
>>>> But if I get the browser caching set up (thought it was!), I think the
>>>> browser would end up being the simplest offline solution. Just browse
>>>> Cloudt once with your browser, and it's effectively "installed".
>>>>
>>>> -- John.
>>>>
>>>

Re: [M100] Can One Run CloudT Offline?

[David Szasz]

John:

It seems with my Asus Chromebox not connected to any networks (Ethernet or
wireless) one has to restart the computer disconnected to a network to
force CloudT to run offline in the Chrome browser. But work it does. This
is an older chromebox at this point so few things work offline anyway, but
CloudT being in browser seems to, just gotta slap it on the side like 60's
black and white TV (my parents used me as the "remote control")

Saving CloudT to the home screen on my Moto G5 works in airplane mode too.

Regards
D. Szasz

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:16 PM David Szasz  wrote:

> Yep, just got back from grocery shopping at Kroger's
>
> I'll try the save to home screen for fix for a more aggressive cache. That
> being said I'd like to build "Mr. T" a raspi or sbc laptop or tablet with
> CloudT or VirtualT with GWBasic or PCBasic thrown in for good measure.
>
> I am such a 80's retro geek
> Thanks
> D. Szasz
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 4:04 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 1:10 PM David Szasz  wrote:
>>
>>> This morning I was pondering if one could run CloudT Offline? Possibly
>>> using something called "NodeJS", that is to run javascript offline, maybe
>>> on a raspberry pi?
>>>
>>> Just a thought any other ways of running javascript and CloutT
>>> offline?
>>>
>>>
>> Hmm, well I just tried this in offline mode (network disconnected) on my
>> laptop in Chrome and it didn't work. I thought it did.
>>
>> But on my Moto G6 Play phone, CloudT stored as an home screen app loads
>> properly in Airplane mode. So saving as a home screen app caches more
>> aggressively, I guess.
>>
>> I need to add a appcache manifest, or the newer standard, a service
>> worker and it cache on Chrome desktop too.
>>
>> As to Node.JS, Node.JS is a combination Javascript runtime and package
>> management system. None of the CloudT javascript code runs in the server,
>> just in the browser, so it wouldn't benefit from the Node.JS javascript
>> engine.
>>
>> That said, Node.JS can run some simple webservers. CloudT at this point
>> is a static html + javascript site, which means it has no server side code.
>> So it would run locally under any web server and maybe even from a local
>> directory without trouble. But there are many webservers that will run on a
>> Pi. The benefit of Node.JS would be if you want to access some hardware.
>> Say a physical serial port. It could be exposed to CloudT from Node.js
>> "SerialPort" library as a Websocket to the front end running as a web app.
>>
>> But if I get the browser caching set up (thought it was!), I think the
>> browser would end up being the simplest offline solution. Just browse
>> Cloudt once with your browser, and it's effectively "installed".
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>

Re: [M100] Can One Run CloudT Offline?

[David Szasz]

Yep, just got back from grocery shopping at Kroger's

I'll try the save to home screen for fix for a more aggressive cache. That
being said I'd like to build "Mr. T" a raspi or sbc laptop or tablet with
CloudT or VirtualT with GWBasic or PCBasic thrown in for good measure.

I am such a 80's retro geek
Thanks
D. Szasz

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 4:04 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 1:10 PM David Szasz  wrote:
>
>> This morning I was pondering if one could run CloudT Offline? Possibly
>> using something called "NodeJS", that is to run javascript offline, maybe
>> on a raspberry pi?
>>
>> Just a thought any other ways of running javascript and CloutT
>> offline?
>>
>>
> Hmm, well I just tried this in offline mode (network disconnected) on my
> laptop in Chrome and it didn't work. I thought it did.
>
> But on my Moto G6 Play phone, CloudT stored as an home screen app loads
> properly in Airplane mode. So saving as a home screen app caches more
> aggressively, I guess.
>
> I need to add a appcache manifest, or the newer standard, a service worker
> and it cache on Chrome desktop too.
>
> As to Node.JS, Node.JS is a combination Javascript runtime and package
> management system. None of the CloudT javascript code runs in the server,
> just in the browser, so it wouldn't benefit from the Node.JS javascript
> engine.
>
> That said, Node.JS can run some simple webservers. CloudT at this point is
> a static html + javascript site, which means it has no server side code. So
> it would run locally under any web server and maybe even from a local
> directory without trouble. But there are many webservers that will run on a
> Pi. The benefit of Node.JS would be if you want to access some hardware.
> Say a physical serial port. It could be exposed to CloudT from Node.js
> "SerialPort" library as a Websocket to the front end running as a web app.
>
> But if I get the browser caching set up (thought it was!), I think the
> browser would end up being the simplest offline solution. Just browse
> Cloudt once with your browser, and it's effectively "installed".
>
> -- John.
>

[M100] Can One Run CloudT Offline?

[David Szasz]

This morning I was pondering if one could run CloudT Offline? Possibly
using something called "NodeJS", that is to run javascript offline, maybe
on a raspberry pi?

Just a thought any other ways of running javascript and CloutT offline?

Thanks
Dave S.

Re: [M100] Tandy WP-2

[David Szasz]

I have two WP-2's, but one is dead and I plan to transplant it's screen to
a Amstrad MC100 (it's a pin compatible change and a contrast improvement
for the NC100)

The WP-2 is a good writing machine. I wish the flash memory cards for the
slot on the side weren't scarcer than hen's teeth. But the cheap 128K
upgrade chip (from Jameco) helps to alleviate that problem
Other than the keyboard it is superior to a m100 for just plain writing.

Regards all
Dave Szasz

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 10:29 AM Abraham Moller  wrote:

> Thanks for the tips. It sounds like I should stick with my x86 palmtops
> for now. Maybe when the price is right I should consider an M100/M200/T102
> with the REX option (and flash MFORTH onto that).
>
> Jon
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 8:57 AM Anthony Coghlan 
> wrote:
>
>> I recently got one and like it as a dedicated word processor / note taker
>> because of the nice screen and cool form factor, as you note.  It’s also
>> easy to transfer files to my Windows 10 machine (I think I use LaddieCon).
>> But as Willard mentioned, the screen is slow.  Sometimes the word processor
>> does odd things, such as jumping to another nearby part of the text.  Maybe
>> I accidentally typed a command or arrow to jump, but it’s still silly to
>> suddenly and somewhat frequently find myself typing in the middle of
>> another place in the text.  Nonetheless, as a dedicated word processor,
>> it’s a nice idea.
>>
>> I was intrigued by the Zork idea also.  A purely text based application
>> like that, which also doesn’t require super fast screen refreshing, may
>> work well.  I share Willard’s concern that it may be a challenge to do much
>> more from a programming perspective on the WP-2, though.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 31, 2019, Abraham Moller  wrote:
>>
>>> Oops - I meant the VCF SE 7.0. But Zork on a WP-2 was evidently
>>> demonstrated at the VCF MW 9.0 in 2014 (by Christopher at
>>> randomvariations.com).
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 02:07 Abraham Moller,  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I had a few questions about the Tandy WP-2. How many here have used the
 machine? It seems like a nice upgrade from the Model 100, although the lack
 of BASIC is a disappointment. The 80x8 display, XMODEM capability, and 128K
 drop-in RAM upgrade seem like the main advantages. It also looks like Forth
 and an Infocom interpreter have been ported to the machine.

 Has anyone here used or upgraded WP-2 CamelForth (besides John
 Hogerhuis, of course)? It looks promising, and disk I/O plus inline
 assembler would make it really strong. Also, does anyone on the list have
 the source for the WP-2 zxzvm Infocom interpreter (Christopher from
 randomvariations.com ported it, but I can't find his email address
 anywhere)?

 I have a QuickPad Pro (80186-powered) in a similar form factor that
 does much more (DOS), but it is hampered by a weird serial port (no way to
 receive data without frequent software interruption, at least through
 testing with DSZ). Is the WP-2 worth it for tinkering? Has anyone developed
 other apps for the WP-2? A Z80 laptop running Forth and zcode interpreter
 would be really nice and a great addition to my planned portable computing
 exhibit at VCF SE 9.0.

 Let me know if you have any suggestions or if I should just steer clear.

 Thanks,
 Jon

>>>

Re: [M100] 100/102 to USB?

[David Szasz]

I thought of managing my weekly shopping list on a 102 since the typing
would be much easier than "hunting and pecking" with my fingers on a
smartphone. Don't know if the people at the supermarket would "freak-out"
seeing someone wandering around with an obvious computer with everyone
carrying a much more powerful computer (in their phones) all the time, how
ironic?

D. Szasz

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:51 AM Thomas Morehouse 
wrote:

> Thanks gentlemen.  I'd used serial cables (null modem) for transferring
> files between DOS and Windows machines before.  Forgot about the 100/102
> Telcom method.
>
> I'm creating a database of all the aircraft we have at the New England Air
> Museum.
>
> http://www.neam.org/shell.php?page=aircraft_collection
>
> Much easier to use my 100, walking from plane to plane, than my Win10
> laptop.  Once created, I'll import the data into our main ResourceMate
> cataloguing system.
>
> Tom M.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 6:18 PM Gregory McGill 
> wrote:
>
>> mac terminal: https://www.emtec.com/zoc/
>> probably can find minicom in brew or something too
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:06 PM John Graf  wrote:
>>
>>> I have one or two serial to USB cables, but I can’t find a “Terminal”
>>> app like there used to be on the older Macs, complete with the comm
>>> settings. I’ve found one that doesn’t work on my newer Mac OS, though it
>>> apparently does on some older style machines with early OS 10 versions.
>>>
>>> The only Terminal app I have is the Mac OS Terminal, found in the
>>> Utilities folder of teh Applications folder. It’s the one smarter people
>>> than me use to manipulate the machine’s behavior through command line
>>> instructions. If you mean that application, can you explain (easily for an
>>> old man!) what commands lines to type to set the comm and the destination
>>> for the downloaded file?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> John Ph. Graf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 3:52 PM, George Michael Rimakis 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Your best bet is to use a serial cable to connect your PC/Mac to your
>>> Model 100. Then just use the Telcom program to send the data as text over
>>> the serial, and capture it on Windows/Mac.
>>>
>>> For Mac you can use Terminal. For Windows you may want to try Teraterm.
>>>
>>> Just make sure your settings are the same on both machines.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>>

[M100] Casting VirtualT or CloudT Screen to Flat Screen TV via Chromecast (Or Firestick)

[David Szasz]

Gentlemen:

I wanted to describe a technique to project, or "cast" the screen from
VirtualT or CloudT to a modern flat sceen TV with HDMI via Chromecast.
Though I understand much the same can be done via the "mirror screen
setting" in the Amazon Firestick from a Windows 10 or other PC.  I hit upon
this last week while dabbling with CloudT where it is easier to do by
opening the app in the Firefox browser with a FireStick.

The below images are from an Acer Windows 10 laptop using Chromecast to
"cast" the display to my 46in Samsung TV at 1024 resolution. To do this one
must open the VirtualT emulator and the Chrome browser in full screen mode.
Set the emulator to high contrast (block mode). With chromecast installed
via the Google home app start chromecast and pull down the setting to cast
the desktop, then minimize the browser window and maximize the VirtualT
window. If one were to pass the keyboard commands from a model 100 type
computer to the emulator via an appropriate application then they would
effectively have a large display for their physical "Model T". This sort of
thing could have been done with a LED projector, but a lot of people have
these HDMI casting dongles and a flat screen TV so it is more accessible.

I'd like to share this with the list but don't know if I can post photos
(not being an administrator)

Regards
David Szasz NV3F

Examples:

Model 200 Big Screen
<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KvMY3A8LwHhSWx3LaImQlkxEJc_t1__coJEX16S3s3Ct-hp3rFMmZKuQocdxn_jO9kOdNCiL74QwMTw_jRmcocgvlkQ3qrj5q_7BLkV9JJRUHi645AlpMikLETXcMm7K51JMT89R1DFLQARg94ol39UKjEzxnQJveSTDLoJ9iewYRNav9-PvmaxJxs3UuCvDCzxg5iqA4RuOWFLocf8t1OEjly-dJAPb_LXnax9dGwLCImVMh29GaINVoW73YEdX5s302IBHiAoQNSFJKbgT4Jy98l2PBGXMcTIa7CqGwattNDY9LifFl1qOUIktFsuZHEkE0lq1tU2X8aSjPmiY3VC2BlAXl2aoXuCfFPL8xChRYfyxD5NVT5KU7rlMnEarwLmMgQnVOvh_T7Cx7Mk0RR_2tZBoEgIMl3HZu7sy4ibKCilFwpOL8Di52pijjWWl-sQMvOJfkMn9Ogffbz5QvH9GObBTqgruP9t-P_Ee5bFuDQUBc3HttOzdb7_s7nzfN_l8xSX62T-vqlutIoofOLtHMB5HuT7z4Dkp9mlD5BAVGIaFBwkCxh1L7Tw8nvzabyxnaSRbekxySUy0GmGgO6F5KLfMCVFdzzr-isthD0Fb725XIHod6L_ybIquaOs8kzC-LpNCi2hTE9JBi8Ri81xxNXFTUS8=w1638-h921-no>

Model 100 Big Screen
<https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOY66gPjCjqRq0Is2iiYKLN0pGtj0P4S4uOk2vZ>

[M100] Model 100 File Transfer Within Chrome Browser Or OS

[David Szasz]

Hey Everybody:

Just got an FTDI "Chip-X10" usb serial adapter/cable the other day. While
messing around with it on various systems I was able to install it on my
Asus chromebox (a desktop chromebook) by just plugging it in, since the
Chrome OS has built in recognition of FTDI devices. I like my chromebox for
everyday stuff since it is simple, problem free and cheap.

Anyhow, I was able to use a chrome app, from the Chrome store called
Cereal-com

(too
cute!) to up and download text and files via the FTDI RS-232 cable, like a
graphical Hyperterm. Very Cool! This should work within the Chrome browser
as well if anyone wants to give it a try. I may post instructions on its
use, as said the com settings are similar to what you'd use for Hyperterm
under WindowsXP

Let me know if you do

Dave Szasz NV3F

Re: [M100] CloudT documentation

[David Szasz]

I just tried out CloudT on my Android phone and tablet and guess what,
also via chromecast on my 55 inch flat screen TV! It's not a DVI but will
do in a pinch.

Great work Mr. Hogerhuis! Thanks. Next I'd like to send text via an android
serial monitor thru chromecast to the TV to display large blocks of text or
listings, maybe even crude graphics.

We'll see
D.S.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 7:44 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> I made a start on CloudT documentation.
>
> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=CloudT_Web_Emulator
>
> It describes the main features, the "Virtual Tape" concept, and how to get
> a file from Club100 into the Virtual Tape.
>
> I haven't documented all features but exploring can be fun :-)
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Duplicate a file

[David Szasz]

Jason:

Sorry about that as NAME only renames the existing file (I forgot). The old
tried and true model 100 method is to save the BASIC file as text using the
".DO" appendage

from within the BASIC program type

SAVE "newfilename.do"

Then as needed open the text file and rename it as a BASIC program using
the ".BA" appendage

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 1:20 PM, David Szasz <dasz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> jason:
>
> You can just save the file under another name. See the NAME command.
>
> NAME "old filename" AS "new filename"
>
> I hope that helps a little.
>
> D. Szasz
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Jason Benson <jason.benson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys, is there anyway to make a copy of a BASIC file so that you have
>> a backup other than saving it to another machine or external storage?
>>
>> Per the manual :
>>
>> In the Model 100 there usually is no backup copy. You
>> should make one for important documents as early as
>> possible.
>>
>> But that seems crazy. Would it be possible copy the text of the program
>> and then paste it in a new ram file? That would give it a new memory
>> address, but I'm not sure how.
>> -Jason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] Duplicate a file

[David Szasz]

jason:

You can just save the file under another name. See the NAME command.

NAME "old filename" AS "new filename"

I hope that helps a little.

D. Szasz

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Jason Benson 
wrote:

> Hey guys, is there anyway to make a copy of a BASIC file so that you have
> a backup other than saving it to another machine or external storage?
>
> Per the manual :
>
> In the Model 100 there usually is no backup copy. You
> should make one for important documents as early as
> possible.
>
> But that seems crazy. Would it be possible copy the text of the program
> and then paste it in a new ram file? That would give it a new memory
> address, but I'm not sure how.
> -Jason
>
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

[David Szasz]

Thanks, your discussion is piquing my interest and making my mouth water.
And it would certainly complement my infrequently used NADSbox to boot!

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Mike Stein  wrote:

> I think a rough price point would be useful; why is that a problem?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Josh Malone 
> *To:* Model 100 Discussion 
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:26 PM
> *Subject:* [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest
>
> Folks,
>
> There's been lots of interest lately in obtaining REX units. Several
> members have now built REXes but we realize that not everybody wants to or
> is equipped to build one. My personal feeling is that it would be great to
> get these back "in stock" in one form or another. I think the first logical
> step would be to see how many people actually want.
>
> Sooo...
>
> I've created a form that people can use to **express interest** in
> acquiring a REX.
>
> https://goo.gl/forms/Kr4YgaskVhMCuzxz1
>
> This is basically a list of "how many REX units does the world need". This
> is ONLY for the Tandy 100 or 102 REX.
>
> Please note:  This is NOT a pre-order!
>
> Filling out this form does NOT guarantee that you will get a REX. This
> form is simply to gauge the number of REX units that it would take to meet
> current demand from the community. The email address field is there only to
> notify people if/when a board run is actually made, although I'm sure an
> announcement will certainly be made on this list if/when a run is actually
> made.
>
> This is just a research step. I'm not actively planning a board run, and I
> have no idea what they would cost, though I hope it could be done around
> the same price point as Club100 was selling. Maybe a number of people could
> divide-and-conquer to meet current demand? Maybe we can organize a contract
> manufacture run? I don't know.
>
> But, let us know if you want one. I'll share the results (numbers only) on
> the list after a while.
>
> -Josh
>
>

Re: [M100] Increase attachment size?

[David Szasz]

Sorry for being off-topic

Mitch:

I live in Crawfordsville. Our local municipal power company (CELP) put
fiber in about 10 years ago. After a few years a new mayor and city council
sold it off to Metronet. Their service seems OK but don't miss a bill
payment, they are not forgiving. Before that I had Comcast which sucked.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Mitch Parker <mbp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> Where in IN are you?  We just got Metronet here in Carmel.  I have been
> told their customer service is horrible.  After Bright House I cannot
> imagine much worse, and I had Comcast for years before that.
>
> Mitch
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2017, David Szasz <dasz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I try to get some fibre every day, it keeps me regular. ;->
>>
>> But seriously, 64k should be OK. It helps to keep messages concise which
>> is good to a discussion forum.
>>
>> Here is the wilds of Indiana we have had fiber for about a decade. It was
>> started by our small city to attract "high tech" but sold off to an outfit
>> called Metronet a few years back. Other than the increase in the monthly
>> connection charges I couldn't live without it.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 8:07 PM, John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I do throw a model t related picture onto Facebook now and then that
>>> could be interesting to the group. But I don't always take the trouble to
>>> repost here since pictures usually exceed the 64k limit we agreed to.
>>>
>>> Are folks still happy with the 64k attachment limit?
>>>
>>> Says the guy about to get fiber connected to his house :-)
>>>
>>> -- John.
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [M100] Increase attachment size?

[David Szasz]

I try to get some fibre every day, it keeps me regular. ;->

But seriously, 64k should be OK. It helps to keep messages concise which is
good to a discussion forum.

Here is the wilds of Indiana we have had fiber for about a decade. It was
started by our small city to attract "high tech" but sold off to an outfit
called Metronet a few years back. Other than the increase in the monthly
connection charges I couldn't live without it.

Regards

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 8:07 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> I do throw a model t related picture onto Facebook now and then that could
> be interesting to the group. But I don't always take the trouble to repost
> here since pictures usually exceed the 64k limit we agreed to.
>
> Are folks still happy with the 64k attachment limit?
>
> Says the guy about to get fiber connected to his house :-)
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] http://www.littlecherubentertainment.com/cherub-store/

[David Szasz]

I am sure that if Bigfoot used a computer it would be a m100 since it would
have to be portable and off-grid. ;-)

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Russell Flowers 
wrote:

> The trailer looks good!
>
> Now, did you find a way to sneak the M100 into the movie *as* a prop? :)
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Lee Kelley  wrote:
>
>> That's the plan, but at this time I'm not sure when.  I'm pretty sure we
>> want some theater showings before it is available for rental.  But that
>> will be announced on the LCE web site.  Thanks for your interest.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Jeff Gonzales 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> will it be on netflix?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Lee Kelley  wrote:
>>>
 Hey guys, and gal's, I know this is not directly related to the m100
 but I was told that you might be interested in a movie I was in and part of
 production of.  It's direct to DVD right now although we will have it in
 some theaters.

 You can watch the trailer at www.sitwmovie.com and it can be purchased
 at http://www.littlecherubentertainment.com/cherub-store/

 And I did keep a prop list on my m100 for the movie.

 Thanks.

 --
 *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
 whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>
>>
>

[M100] Full Null Modem Cable Cottage Industry?

[David Szasz]

Hi:

I have a steady hand and a good eye when soldering and was thinking of
crafting null modem cables like Rick Hanson used to do for sale to the
model T community. This to to make file transfer cheap and easy for our
community, especially the folks who don't own a NADSbox or are new to the
model T. What specifications would be the most universal, DB9 to DB25, male
or female? I'm thinking of crafting a general purpose serial cable and
adding a gender changer or two to adapt to any configuration.

Of course these days a usb to serial adapter would be needed by most folks,
but one still needs the "special" full null modem cable to make the final
connection. Or can this be done in  the software of the usb to serial cable
itself? Any recommendations on a good usb to serial device/cable (like an
FTDI) that we could recommend to new folks?

Your thoughts on this are appreciated

Dave Szasz NV3F

Re: [M100] Full Null Modem Cable Cottage Industry?

[David Szasz]

Yes, I have been looking into Ftdi and max232  since I'm getting into a
homebrew (i.e. serial) Arduino project as of late. This has similar
problems to communication with a m100 type machine.

How many of these cables, dongles would the community need per year?

Thanks
Dave  NV3F

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:00 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> If you were building one I would recommend an all in one cable that hooks
> straight from a USB port to any model t particularly the model 100 with no
> adapters necessary.
>
> Also it should be full null rather than defeating flow control as the old
> complink cable did in order to support programs like HTERM which rely on
> flow control.
>
> And ftdi is the only way to go on Windows.
>
> Maybe a very small pcb that can be built into a thin hood shell with a
> surface mounted ftdi chip and max232?
>
> All that said you could accomplish mostly the same thing by simply
> aggregating the proper OTS parts and software and offering it for sale as a
> package with documentation. That way it takes out all the research and
> guesswork and that's the real trouble.
>
> -- John.
>