Re: [M100] next project!

[Lee Kelley]

I'm looking forward to seeing the progress.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024, 20:45 Stephen Adolph  wrote:

> I have so many Model T around here-- too many!  One of the reasons is for
> testing, but another reason is because I have different computers for
> different use cases.
>
> For example, I have an M100 set up for CP/M using an NSC800 CPU using
> REXCPM, and of course I have a normal M100 with 80C85 CPU again with REXCPM.
>
> So, I've decided my next widget is going to be a dual CPU card for M100,
> so I can have Z80-based CP/M and normal M100 in the same box!
>
> Here is my proto board. It uses a great big CPLD to interface and manage
> the switching between the two processors.  It also will support dual clock
> rates because... why not.
>
> I'll post updates as this progresses... Steve
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>

Re: [M100] Thank you veterans

[Lee Kelley]

Thank you. 10 years active Air Force and then retired from the reserves.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023, 19:45 Greg Swallow  wrote:

> Thank you. Navy (USS Dale) - North Atlantic.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 11, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Daniel L  wrote:
>
> 
> Thank you. 8 years Navy. Proud lifetime member of VFW.
>
>
> On November 11, 2023 10:07:53 AM PST, "John R. Hogerhuis" <
> jho...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> To all the US veterans in the club, and there have been and are many,
>> thank you for your service. Happy Veterans Day to everyone.
>>
>> --== Model T's Forever ==--
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>

Re: [M100] VIDEO - Dial-A-ROM for the Model T computers (and others)

[Lee Kelley]

I ran across the youtube video before seeing this post.  Thank you.  I was
thinking of selling off my collection but now I think I'll wait until
getting  a DAR and see if I can rekindle some interest in using my model
Ts.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2023, 09:33  wrote:

> Morning all,
>
> I just made this video live this AM. The DARs for the Model T computers
> have sold out already but my friend is making more.
>
> In this video we take a look at the ‘Dial-A-ROM’ a spiffy new multi-ROM
> for vintage portable computers. It was designed by the same guy who did the
> Backpack drive. First, we’ll learn how to use the Dial-A-ROM with the ROM
> images that come preinstalled on it. Then we’ll see how to add our own ROM
> images if we so desire.
>
>
>
> *https://youtu.be/CejyLsI0HIw Jeff Birt (Hey
> Birt!)*
>

Re: [M100] Subjective poll on M100 "dialob box"

[Lee Kelley]

I vote for the one on the left.  That could be a first

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023, 18:59 Russell Flowers  wrote:

> I like the example on the left best.
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 6:45 PM Ken Pettit  wrote:
>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> I'm curious which of the two "dialog box" options people think look
>> better between the two shown in the attached diagram.  These were coded
>> up in BASIC, but I'm thinking of using it in an ASM program.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>

Re: [M100] printer port

[Lee Kelley]

  2.54mm Pitch 26Pin IDC

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 7:50 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:

> What do we call the connector that goes into the model 100 printer port?
>
>

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Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

[Lee Kelley]

I can't quote the issue and page but I do recall there being an article in
Portable 100 magazine about connecting a joystick to the Model T computers.


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On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 10:41 PM Daryl Tester <
dt-m...@handcraftedcomputers.com.au> wrote:

> On 5/1/21 6:24 am, Jim Anderson wrote:
>
> > As I recall, the way it worked was that the five switches (directional
> > switches and fire) were wired to the first five output bits, and the
> > common return from all five switches was wired to BUSY.  To poll the
> > joystick you'd cycle through outputting ASCII 1, 2, 4, 8, and 16, and
> > read BUSY each time.  Whichever bits resulted in assertion of BUSY
> > meant that switch was currently closed.
>
> Probably need diodes in there as well, to stop from inadvertantly
> driving an output low and high at the same time if the joystick
> had more than one switch closed (e.g. up and fire).
>
> Cheers,
>--dt
>


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Re: [M100] Replacement rubber feet

[Lee Kelley]

The second item looks interesting.  Let us know what you think of them.

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 5:41 PM Scott McDonnell 
wrote:

> I just ordered this to try:
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08DM1S3SC
>
>
>
> And will probably pick up these to try as well.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Licheers-Portable-Invisible-Cooling-Compatible/dp/B07ZJ3CYB3
>
>
>
> Scott M.
>
>
>
> *From: *Lee Kelley 
> *Sent: *Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:36 PM
> *To: *m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject: *Re: [M100] Replacement rubber feet
>
>
>
> Instead of taller "feet", RS sold legs that were white "plastic" a inch
> and a half or so long, with rubber caps on them.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 17:21 Scott McDonnell 
> wrote:
>
> Any recommendations for replacement rubber feet? I ordered some ½ inch
> rubber feet and dug out the deformed hard rubber on my M100 and found that
> these don’t fit (maybe 3/8 would fit better?) and are way shorter than I
> would like. What have you guys done?
>
>
>
> And have any of you used taller feet in the back to give it an angle?
>
>
>
> Scott M.
>
>
>


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Re: [M100] Replacement rubber feet

[Lee Kelley]

Instead of taller "feet", RS sold legs that were white "plastic" a inch and
a half or so long, with rubber caps on them.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 17:21 Scott McDonnell 
wrote:

> Any recommendations for replacement rubber feet? I ordered some ½ inch
> rubber feet and dug out the deformed hard rubber on my M100 and found that
> these don’t fit (maybe 3/8 would fit better?) and are way shorter than I
> would like. What have you guys done?
>
>
>
> And have any of you used taller feet in the back to give it an angle?
>
>
>
> Scott M.
>

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

[Lee Kelley]

I've always thought "null modem" was a misnomer. It probably should have
been called a "non modem cable" or simply a cross over cable as mentioned
above.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 11:06 RETRO Innovations  wrote:

> On 9/21/2020 10:59 AM, Jonathan Yuen wrote:
> >
> > That said, I could only think that the other wiring should be same as a
> null modem, but I thought that I should air my thoughts to see what other
> people think.
>
> I'm curious about the use case, but you are correct, the wiring would be
> the same.  Maybe, (though no one will do this, as the other terms have
> been in use for too long), it's best to call such a cable a "crossover"
> cable, like is available for Ethernet ports.
>
> Jim
>
>
>

Re: [M100] z88 and tandy portable disk drive

[Lee Kelley]

And Brother used a variation for embroidery machines.


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On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 2:33 PM Jeffrey Birt  wrote:

> Very interesting it was used on the Z88 as well. I seem to recall that the
> drive itself was a third part unit that several manufacturers used to add
> disk drive capability to their products. I don’t recall where I heard that
> off the top of my head though.
>
>
>
> Jeff Birt
>
>
>
> *From:* M100  *On Behalf Of *dano none
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 6, 2020 1:39 PM
> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* [M100] z88 and tandy portable disk drive
>
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone tried hooking up a Tandy Portable Disk Drive to a Cambridge Z88?
>
>
>
> The instructions are here:
>
>
>
> http://www.rakewell.com/xob/xob.shtml
>
>
>
> I think in the instructions to build a cable is says front of connector, I
> think that means - looking in to the cable from the front.
>
>
>
> Anyway, has anyone done this? Looks like the little Tandy Portable lived a
> very exciting life, hooking up with Tandys, Z88's and even knitting
> machines!
>
>
>
> 
>
> Rakewell's Z88 Archive Page 
>
> 1. Introduction. Disc-88 is a portable, battery-powered disc drive for the
> Z88 computer. It uses readily available 3.5 inch floppy discs as the
> storage medium.
>
> www.rakewell.com
>
>
>


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Re: [M100] M200 - even with 72k ram, can't run large programs for m100

[Lee Kelley]

Some of the logic for the way ram is handled on the 200 is probably that it
has Multiplan built in and it probably has some of the video handling done
in part of that ram.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:49 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 5:43 PM Steve Glenner 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a recently new to me M200, and a couple M100s. The working M100s
>> have 32K of RAM, while the M200 has 72K of RAM, in 3 banks of 24K each.
>>
>> I was surprised to learn that apparently the maximum amount of usable ram
>> at one time on an M200 is under 20KB, even though is has more than twice
>> the memory of the M100.
>> There are some basic programs I'm interested in running on the M200 that
>> take up more than 20K of memory, are there any workarounds or alternate
>> ROMs that have a larger linear ram address space?
>>
>>
> Not that I know of.
>
> What are you trying to run?
>
> -- John.
>


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Re: [M100] 3D Printable replacement battery cover for M200

[Lee Kelley]

I don't know how common it is but our public library has a 3d printer and
even though they won't print anything remotely gun related the will print
most anything else for 5 cents an oz.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 17:41 B 9  wrote:

> Thanks, Lee! I appreciate the expert insight. I hope Steve is able to
> rejigger the hook tabs with slightly less overhang.
>
> $15 for 50¢ of material sounds crazy, but I don't have a 3-D printer. Are
> there any 3-D print services that aren't so expensive? My local makerspaces
> have closed their doors to focus on PPE right now.
>
> —b9
>
>
> Lee Olivares  wrote:
>
> > The “vertical” hook tabs are on the weak side, simply by nature of their
> geometry and the limits of FDM, but they’re certainly functional.
> Unfortunately re-orientation of the model isn’t a great option to improve
> their strength, nor is beefing them up, simply because of the size of the
> slits in the case.
> >
> > However, making them with slightly less overhang would prevent some
> harmful leverage without affecting function, and it would permit “scooping”
> the three engagements on the short side, since the tolerances there are
> pretty tight as it stands.
> >
> > Managed to fracture one of the vertical “hook” tabs removing the
> support, and it’s a snug fit but a really great design.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >  - Lee
> >  - 909.437.0250
> >  - Destroying technology problems.
> >
> > > On Jun 28, 2020, at 21:39, Lee Olivares  wrote:
> > >
> > > Resident 3D Printer repair guy here: that’s expensive, you’re looking
> at .50c in material for an FDM PET print.
> > >
> > > It’s about an hour on a Prusa MK3S @ .2mm, I’m fairly certain my buddy
> gifted me an M200 so maybe I can do some comparison shots.
> > >
> > > Printer is hot and ready so I’ll just crank out a sample as a
> reference, wait 2hrs before making any purchases.
> > >
> > >  - Lee
> > >  - 909.437.0250
> > >  - Destroying technology problems.
> > >
> > >>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 20:04, B 9  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Very awesome! One of my M200s is missing the battery cover and looks
> a bit janky with the flexible plastic I cut to fit in its place. I got cost
> estimates from xometry and shapeways to see how much it'd be and it seemed
> the cheapest options were $15 to $20 bucks. For example, here's Shapeways'
> prices, but you have to add $3 for black plastic and then there's shipping
> on top of that.
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>
> > >> —-b9
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 7:15 PM Steve Glenner <
> steveglen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> The M200 I just got was missing the battery cover, so I designed up
> a replacement and 3D printed it. I donate the model to the community in
> case anyone else needs one: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4508352
> > >>>
> > >>> Tandy Model 200 Battery Cover by SteveGlenner
> > >>> I bought a second hand Tandy Model 200, but it was missing the
> battery cover. So here is a replacement battery cover. It should be printed
> with supports as there are some overhangs but otherwise the settings
> probably aren't critical. I printed mine in black ABS so it matches the
> rest of the bottom case.
> > >>> www.thingiverse.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
>
>

Re: [M100] Any idea what's attached to this Model 100?

[Lee Kelley]

It has "bubble memory" unit's in it.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 12:02 AM Chris Fezzler  wrote:

> Booster Pak is good call but doesn't look like one exactly - unless they
> had two cases.
>
> On Sunday, June 28, 2020, 12:06:35 AM EDT, Ken Pettit 
> wrote:
>
>
> Looks like a piece of wood with a piece of cushioning fabric inbetween to
> me.  How's that for speculation?  :)
>
> Ken
>
> On 6/27/20 8:37 PM, Gary Weber wrote:
>
> Can anyone speculate what's attached to the bottom of this Model 100
> listed for sale?
>
> At first I thought "Bookster Pak", but it doesn't have the clips on the
> side, plus it has green & red LEDs on the front and what looks like a
> cut-off cable connector on the back.  The whole unit looks like it might
> have been flood-damaged actually, from the amount of gunk on it...
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Radio-Shack-TRS-80-Model-100-Portable-Computer/254637209666?hash=item3b498f7842:g:rIQAAOSw4lte992V
>
>
> --
> Gary Weber
> g...@web8201.com
>
>
>

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Re: [M100] DVI Floppy drive or blanking cover

[Lee Kelley]

Or put in a CD drive only connected to power and play music with headphones
or speakers connected to the front of it

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 17:43 Gregory McGill  wrote:

> I can 3d print one, or sell you a gotek to stick in there
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 4:21 AM James Zeun  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey guys
>>
>> A random question, but thought it worth a shot.
>>
>> Does anyone have a spare 180k floppy drive or perhaps a blanking
>> cover for the DVI?
>>
>> At the moment I have a gaping hole in the front of my DVI and I'd
>> very much like to cover it up with something.
>>
>> Or if anyone can recommend a few models of floppy drive I might be
>> able to look for on t'old fleabay, that would also be helpful.
>>
>> Cheers
>> James
>>
>>

Re: [M100] Video adapter.

[Lee Kelley]

Awesome.  One step closer to a M/T lecture machine for connecting to a
projector and not need a modern computer in the mix.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 09:04 Randy Kindig  wrote:

> That’s fabulous Steve!  Count me in on one of those devices!
>
> Randy Kindig
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 5, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Stephen Adolph  wrote:
>
> 
> As some of you may recall, it is fairly straightforward to access an 80x24
> screen in CP/M through the use of the M100 serial port, and an external
> VT100 emulator.
>
> This device:
> http://geoffg.net/terminal.html
>
> is a great example of how to connect a modern VGA flat screen display to
> the M100.  However, this exact design isn't really convenient, as the
> serial data has to be connected with a custom cable.  (see the little white
> 4 pin header).
>
> I've decided to make a variant of this design that has a DB-9 connector on
> it, for serial data, so that it can be easily connected to the M100.
>
> I'll be making kits available for this design, and the price will be 30$
> US.  Hopefully by making this affordable and easier to connect, this can
> become the defacto solution to 80x24 display!
>
> This solution will work with CP/M right away, but the next task will be -
> how to use this solution with Model T natively.  This will take some
> software work.  A port of the "DVI software" to leverage serial
> communication to the VT100 adapter is one way to do this.
>
> This solution is also compatible with the "BCR serial port" modification
> which allows for serial data transmission at up to 120kbits/sec.   A nice
> solution to exernal video that frees up the real RS-232 port of the laptop
> for comms.
>
> I'll be updating the REX wiki with some information on this.  Kits aren't
> ready just yet.  I'm waiting for my boards to arrive.
>
> cheers
> Steve
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Can I Redirect LCD output to serial port?

[Lee Kelley]

I do believe it has been done for the parallel port.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:18 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:

> I did find a hack from the ROM2 manual, which POKES some values into RAM.
> The problem is that it's super delicate, and if you turn the computer off
> while the values are changed, you can't recover without a cold boot. (Don't
> ask how I know that.)
>
>
>
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:52 PM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>> I think you could achieve that with a little code and using the hook,
>> yes.  But it isn't built in like ...say CP/M.
>> That would be a good thing to get sorted.   Wonder if it exists?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:40 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:
>>
>>> So I've been playing with (and enjoying) my T102, but I"m stuck on an
>>> idea, and I want to see if this is possible.
>>>
>>> I would like to have all of the computer's console output sent to the
>>> serial port, and not just the screen. This would allow me to use a terminal
>>> or terminal program to get an 80x25 output from the T102.
>>>
>>> Has anybody seen a program like this? Is it possible to hook the $4B44
>>> print routine? Are there any good examples of talking to the serial port
>>> with assembly language?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Wilson
>>> wilso...@gmail.com
>>> (619)940-6311
>>> K6ABZ
>>>
>>

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Re: [M100] Windows Weekly Model 100 Cameo

[Lee Kelley]

Very neat too bad he didn't turn it on.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 9:48 AM Kevin Becker  wrote:

> At about 29 minutes into the show, as Leo Laporte is about to start an
> Epson ad read, he pulls out a Model 100.  After the ad he goes back to the
> m100 again for a bit.
>
>
> https://www.thurrott.com/podcasts/windows-weekly/213344/redmondology-windows-weekly-636
>
>
>
>

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[M100] Observation

[Lee Kelley]

I think I think computers too much.
Earlier today I was playing a trivia game and the question came up "Who is
credited for making the Model T?"  I was looking for Tandy in the list of
answers..

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[M100] Mikrokolor

[Lee Kelley]

Hey to the group,

I had a conversation with Paul back in 2009 and this is the e-mail for your
information.

"Wow, Lee! LONG time ago!! I am not sure it is true, but have been told the
Smithsonian has a Mikrokolor in a early computer display somewhere! (they
would never answer when asked about it)
I doubt I have any data but the original prototype (handmade) with a home
made, single sided, etched board. I kept it as a momento, as we lost our
butt selling them. Olivetti came to us about licensing the design, then
went back overseas and just copied it, part by part, for their European
Commodore. Radio Shack did license it, but then produced their own black &
white version. I just retired (owned a computer repair shop for 25 years)
at the end of the year. I plan on doing some garage cleaning, and might
find some of that stuff. I think I actually may have "archived" some
drawings, and everything, but the only software would be a hard copy
printout (on a dot-matrix printer!) that I wouldn't retype for all the
money on the planet!! Keep bugging me and maybe I will see. (It's a little
scary thinking about going up top of my garage!) It won't be for several
months, but keep jogging me every few months, and we will see.  You could
build it, as all the parts are available still, even though scarce. hell,
maybe I have some of them too!
I haven't been on the list for years. I DID get a never unwrapped M100 at a
garage sale last fall for $1, and when I popped in 4 AA's, it booted right
up! Quality WAS available once!!  Send me the info on the mailing lit and
the New Age stuff if you would. Maybe with time on my hands again, I might
enjoy playing with my "past"! I plan on getting "back" into ham radio, and
there have been a lot of things done with it there. Those days were FUN!
Someone would say "I wish you could...", and we would start breathing hard
and go do it! Wound up with several patents, and LOTS of money from Tandy
for improvements we made to the Model 1 (but weren't allowed to admit then)
Now, you just pull out more money! Where's the fun in that?
Paul Andreasen, TSgt, USAF (Ret)
ROMAD, 601st DASS (another unit that "never was")
(There's no such thing as an Ex-ROMAD!)
Oh, yeah! Also K1JAN (www.k1jan.com, www.mdw.us, www/en500.us"


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Re: [M100] Need a m102/200 please

[Lee Kelley]

And I have a m200 I could part with.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 1:21 PM Anthony Coghlan  wrote:

> Kevin, is that Bern, PA, or Switzerland (beautiful place, but quite a bit
> farther from Northern Virginia)?
>
> Welcome to the group.  You’ll find guidance and answers to just about
> everything Mxxx related here.
>
> I have a Model 100 with 24KB, in great condition.  You’d have to clean the
> sides of the keys a little - literally, just about the only thing I can
> find.  The backup battery and capacitors inside look great also - common
> problems with these machines after time.  The backup battery definitely
> works and has no corrosion leakage.  I need to reduce my collection (have
> working M100, 102, 200, PC-2, Model 4 and CoCo 3).  I’d toss in a “parts”
> M100 also.  Perhaps you can get the parts machine working as well or just
> scavenge parts from it as needed for projects.
>
> Send me a note to my personal mail (coghl...@gmail.com) if interested.
> Price negotiable but certainly reasonable.  You’d be doing me a favor and
> I’d be happy to see an excellent machine go to a good home.  Otherwise I
> may list on Craigslist or eBay also, to see it out the door.
>
> Best wishes,
> Anthony
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, Kevin Lee  wrote:
>
>> I used to have a m102 when I was a kid.
>> Sorely miss it. Current Im rebuilding a model 3/4 and a coco 3.
>>
>> However I would be appreciative if someone who had a surplus 102/200
>> In good working order to sell me one.
>>
>> I’ve looked all over and yeah flea bay
>> Came to mind. However I feel it’s better getting it from the crowd that
>> loves it the most.
>>
>> I have a small and growing retro collection. And the m102/200 would come
>> in very handy for my travels and daily life
>>
>> Cheers everyone
>> Kevin in Bern
>>
>> Ps. More then happy to pay courier postage from anywhere.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [M100] Still active?

[Lee Kelley]

Pretty active in a few different directions

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 8:41 PM Adam Murray  wrote:

> Hello.  Just wondering what kind of activity this group sees these days.
>
>

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Re: [M100] Ham radio

[Lee Kelley]

The only ways I've seen a Model T used with ham radio, and I'm sure I don't
know it all, is just for logging or packet with a TNC.

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 12:15 PM Douglas Quagliana 
wrote:

> I'd like to know if there's a way to get the cassette port to recognize
> AX.25 Bell 202 packet radio tones (1200 Hertz and 2200 Hertz at 1200
> baud).  I think the cassette port audio input pin get routed to the CPU but
> it only knows "HI" and "LO" so I don't think it can detect sinewave
> waveforms, but I would really like to be proven wrong on this. If it
> worked, it would let you run packet radio right off the cassette port and
> use the cassette motor as a push-to-talk.
>
> Anybody know for sure about the processing of audio input on the cassette
> port audio input pin?
> Douglas
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Jeff Gonzales 
> wrote:
>
>> Anyone still using their Model T for ham radio?
>>
>
>

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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] 2 Bank Gone

[Lee Kelley]

Glad to hear it.

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 9:41 PM Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> Well no sooner had I sent that email when bank 2 started working again. I
> am suspecting it had to do with the battery test I was doing. I ran the
> battery all the way down. I guess that's a warning to me not to do too many
> things at once.
> Looks like it just needed a bit of a charge internally before it started
> working again. Weird but at least it's back up and running.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
>
> One of my NEC 8201s is having a memory issue. I just replaced the main ROM
> with a Y2K chip and SARDOS option ROM. After installing, I cannot go to
> Bank 2. There is a full 64k in the machine. I put the original chips back
> in and I get the same results. I have another 64k worth of extra memory so
> I swapped out the 4 8k chips with new ones and I get the same results.
>
> I should note that when I got the machine I had the same problem but I was
> able to re-seat one of the 8k chips and got it working again.
>
> Any ideas on how to get my second bank of memory back?
>
> Kurt
>
>
>

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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Tandy Model 102 Portable

[Lee Kelley]

If the rom is the EME option rom and not just the rombo it will be for
running the EME analog to digital data acquisition system.

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:30 AM, Brian White  wrote:

> That EME adapter is one of the slickest things ever made for Model
> 100/102/200. It is an adapter that lets you plug a standard 27C256 eprom
> into the non-standard rom socket. It was called a ROMBO.
>
> It solves two different problems at once.
>
> * The socket does not have normal sockets for normal chip legs. It has
> pins that press on the side, and the rom chip is normally supposed to have
> it's legs bent around a carrier like the J legs on a qfp chip. This adapter
> comes with a bock of plastic that fills up the space inside the chip legs
> to support them from behind, so that a normal 27C256 with straight legs can
> be stuffed into the socket and the socket legs can push on the outside of
> the chip legs without bending them. This means you can insert and remove a
> normal chip indefinite times, and still be able to put the rom into a
> reader to rewrite it, because you don't have to bend the chip legs around
> the carrier.
>
> * The socket is not a standard pinout. This thing converts the pinout from
> M100-M200 option rom pinout on the outside surface, to standard 27C256
> pinout on the inside surface.
>
> It means you can play with burning option roms with an ordinary dip28
> 27c256, without needing to build one of these http://tandy.wiki/FigTronix
>
> Some more info:
> http://www.club100.org/library/librom.html
>
> http://tandy.wiki/EME_Systems
>
> --
> bkw
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2018, 3:55 AM Jesse Huyett  wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>> Just picked up an Tandy Model 102 Portable for a decent price.
>> Working (minus one issue I'll research before asking), but first up is
>> taking it apart to do some major cleaning.
>>
>> Checking the expansion bay, I found the following:
>> https://i.imgur.com/HrcZURb.jpg
>> Two HM6264LP-15 (one soldered, one socketed). I'm assuming the 2nd
>> (socketed) is a RAM upgrade to 32K.
>> What I can't seem to find is information on the tan/ silver EME SYS in
>> the option ROM socket. I thought possibly a 'bypass', but the system
>> appears to work the same without it.
>>
>> Super curious and any information is appreciated.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jesse
>>
>


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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Welcome new Model T'ers

[Lee Kelley]

Wow it's been 7 years sense Rick left us.
Wish he could see that it's still going strong.
Thanks John and everyone else.

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> Thanks for keeping things going John. It's good to see new members.
>
> Kurt McCullum
>
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2018, at 12:40 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>
> Lots of new subscribers lately. Welcome to all!
>
> As of today we have exactly 400 members :-)  Which is about 100 more than
> the Facebook group which is saying something in this era of whiz bang web
> apps. I think it says we're old and resistant to change ;-)
>
> We endeavor to maintain a friendly list... positive helpful attitudes to
> questions of all sorts. We're here to help each other out as Model T'ers
> and have a friendly place for (generally) on-topic socialization.
>
> Only hard and fast rules are no swearing, and no tangents into off topic
> politics and stuff like that. The general goal is keep the signal to noise
> ratio up.
>
> One other thing is skill levels. Every once in a while the list geeks out
> with programming and engineering talk. I know that can seem like a foreign
> language and fly over many users heads. If you're in that crowd, you're not
> alone. It comes and goes and it's overall a good thing. We're a small
> community so balkanizaton / too much division into other lists and forums
> is a net negative in my opinion.
>
> I do recommend a threaded mail reader. If you find a threat that is going
> to far into the weeds, and it's grouped as a thread you can decide how much
> to follow it.
>
> For those who are simply users who love these machines with no or minimal
> interest in writing code or low level stuff, please don't let the propeller
> head stuff intimidate you! Jump in any time with whatever is on your mind.
>
> This community is by you, and here for you.
>
> -= Model T's Forever =-
>
> -- John.
>
>
>
>


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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Power Adapter Questions

[Lee Kelley]

I've used both and it's all good.  We just have to remember that the
polarity is negative center, unlike most electronics, when we use strange
power supplies.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Josh Malone  wrote:

> The 102 (only tech ref I have handy - see p. 30) uses a DC-DC
> converter to regulate the 5v supply. I'm not good enough with power
> circuits to guess what the maximum safe input voltage is, but I'll bet
> 8.5 is fine.
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:19 PM, John Gardner  wrote:
> > I've used rechargeable NiMH (Eneloops) in 8201a packs
> >
> > for many years.  In practice,  I have'nt noticed a downside
> >
> > to plug-in cells,  & there is one distinct advantage - It allows
> >
> > use of a purpose-built Eneloop charger (Maha C9000).
> >
> >  ...
> >
> >
> > On 3/16/18, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
> >>  A quick power question for those who may be able to answer this
> question.
> >> On my NEC 8201 the AC power adapter is rated for 8.5 volts. The AC power
> >> adapter for my 100/102/200/TPDD2 is 6v. I have both on my desk but get
> them
> >> mixed up at times even though I try not to. The units seem happy with
> either
> >> voltage. So I'm wondering if there is a risk of damage when I
> accidentally
> >> put the 8.5v plug in my 200 or 102. Do they have an internal regulator
> that
> >> prevents damage?
> >> And one other question. I am getting ready to make the modification to
> my
> >> 200 which allows it to have rechargeable batteries rather than regular
> AA
> >> cells. This is an option which the service manual refers to.
> >> It involves soldering two small jumpers. Will I need to run a higher
> voltage
> >> to charge these batteries or is 6v enough?
> >> Kurt
>



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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Sale Rules for the List?

[Lee Kelley]

What John said.
And welcome to the mix Joshua.

I do miss Rick.

Lee
IHS

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:04 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Joshua Ray  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Are there any particular rules for selling items on the list?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
> No real limits other than relevance / signal to noise ratio.
>
> The only problem we've had is people going overboard with the ebay links.
> I just assume that we all know to look at ebay if we're in acquisition
> mode... generally ebay links should only be posted if
>
> a) you or someone you know is selling the item
> b) it's Model T kit that's unique or pretty rare or a new Model T product
> and it's news in and of itself for some reason that it's up there.
> c) Someone asks for help finding something
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> -- John.
>



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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] List of wanna haves

[Lee Kelley]

Here is an article on the Mikrokolor which I don't think ever quite made it
to market.

http://www.trs-80.org/mikrokolor/

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:53 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN <
jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote:

>
>
> I have asked the Raspberry Pi community to help me with the construction
> of a DVI-like video-output device. I made the assumption that the DVI was
> only a terminal. Both from the response here, as there, I understand now
> that this combination is far more 'intimate' than I presumed.
>
>
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1271713#p1271713
>
>
>
> I hope that the response given in the above thread helps and incites
> people, with far better and more knowledge of the processes and controllers
> involved, to pick up on this project and propose the parameters for a
> video-interface.
>
>
>
> As far as I understand, the driver loaded from the DVI re-maps the video
> controller of the M100 towards the one in the DVI, where new tekst and
> graphics are generated. The 4K memory in the schematics is obviously the
> video-RAM, where 40x16 text (640 bytes) and 240x128 points  (3840 bytes)
> reside. I suppose text and graphics do not reside in different memory
> locations. (because it doesn't fit...)
>
>
>
> Anyway, contrary to what I thought before, we will probably need to
> activate the SCREEN 1, 1 directive with software on the M100 itself. But
> that software does not need to be as big as the original driver, because no
> disk-routines are necessary.
>
>
>
> I'm sorry if I sound presumptuous, and I apologise if I impose on people's
> limited time, but I think this is a project worth pursuing.
>
>
>
> (And I still didn't get an answer about the experiment I proposed, below.)
>
> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus
> Jan-80 "
> @ work( @ @ )
> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.---
>
> *From:* VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN
> *Sent:* vrijdag 9 februari 2018 09:47
> *To:* 'm...@bitchin100.com'
> *Subject:* RE: [M100] List of wanna haves
>
>
>
> .. .. (As I'm accessing this list from 2 different locations,
>
> .. .. and my yahoo-postings aren't always visible to everyone,
>
> .. .. I have repeated the question I send below)
>
>
>
> I'm sadly enough not that technical, so I can't draw the same conclusion
> from the link below. Can't that be confirmed from the ROM BASIC
> dis-assembly too? Without a DVI connected and drivers loaded, what does
> SCREEN 1,1 do ?
>
>
>
> Anyway, even if it is wrong: would it take a lot of effort to re-write
> only the display output portion of the DVI-drivers? That way, development
> could start on a software solution for the video-output via the system bus.
> I had thought of using the GPIO-pins of a Raspberry Pi for that. As the
> R.Pi can also emulate a TPDD, you'd have a virtual DVI replacement, there.
>
> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus
> Jan-80 "
> @ work( @ @ )
> --.ooo--(_)--ooo.---
>
> *From:* M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Brian White
> *Sent:* vrijdag 9 februari 2018 01:59
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] List of wanna haves
>
>
>
> That won't work. I don't remember where I read this, but I read that the
> system rom has calls for certain functions but they are just stubs. The rom
> only contains the stub of a call that says "open CRT: for writing" which
> just says go to some address and do whatever that address says. Normally
> that address just points to the address for the built-in routine to return
> the FC? error. But if dvi dos is installed then that address contains the
> address of the routine in dvi dos to actually do something.
>
> Aha, here's where I read it. Start on page 257
> https://archive.org/details/InsideTheTrs80Model100
>
> I can try it when I get home but we already know.
>
> --
>
> bkw
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jan Vanden Bossche [mailto:jan80...@yahoo.com ]
>
>
> > how would you use it?
>
>
>
> To have a bigger screen to work on, when not on the move. Imagine, a
> 17-inch old VGA monitor with 40 x 24 characters! HUGE!
>
>
>
> I have a question, for anybody having a DVI:
>
> Could you try the following: is it possible to operate a Model T hooked up
> to a DVI, with the DVI ready to accept input and disk commands, but the
> Model T without the driver software? I would think this is possible when
> you boot up both machines, establish the connection, and then, while
> connected, reset the Model so that it is no longer aware of it's
> 'companion'. At that moment, enter BASIC and type SCREEN 1,1. That would
> send all BASIC output to the DVI, right? Does it ? (thàt's the question)
>
>
>
> The above experiment would show if it's at all possible to run a
> monitor-only part of a DVI, without loading software on the Model T to do
> so. I hope, that the simple command SCREEN 1,1 does send some
> screen-positioning code through the bus towards the DVI, even without 

Re: [M100] DVI issue

[Lee Kelley]

ISC, I guess what I meant to say was that the program is the same on the
100,102 and that the pin out is the same for the 102,200.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The boot disk for 200 boots everything, 100, 102, 200. It has 2 sets of
> files, the original files for 100 plus another set of the same files for
> 200. Yes the cable is the same for 102 and 200, at least for the pins. It's
> not necessarily the same for the plastic shroud. The opening around the bus
> connector is smaller on the 200, and a regular boxed/shrouded male IDC
> connector just barely fits in a 102, but not at all in a 200. So it's
> pretty difficult to make a polarity-keyed cable for 200. You might be able
> to do it with a solder type boxed male 40 pin header instead of a crimp-on
> type. If you do the trick with an IDE cable and a male-male pin header,
> then that works the same on both 102 and 200.
>
> I actually did all this last night too not just the 15 minutes I uploaded,
> but thought it was just too long and boring with me actually reading the
> manual on camera and running in to problems like bad copies of the system
> disk and discovering mystery files on the system disk and pondering where
> they came from, all while filming... 45 minutes to deliver 3 minutes of
> actual information! And on top of that, you can't even read the screens.
>
> I'm playing with a video editor now to see if I can make it into something
> reasonable.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>
>> IIRC the rule of thumb is the cable is the same for the 102 and 200.  The
>> 100 is unique.  The boot disk is the same on the 100 and 102.  And the 200
>> is unique.  Just FYI.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Randall Kindig <randall.kin...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> There’s only one way it can go, really,  in order for everything to fit
>>> together properly.
>>> > On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:46 AM, Jim Anderson <jim.ander...@kpu.ca> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >>
>>> >> The very first thing I noticed is that you plugged your cable into the
>>> >> RS-232 port of your T102.
>>> >>
>>> >> My cable has a chip on the end that plugs into the area next to the
>>> >> option ROM.  All the manuals that I’ve seen say that’s supposed to be
>>> >> the way it works.
>>> >
>>> > That's the way it's supposed to work on the M100, yes.  He's not using
>>> the serial port, though - the system bus connector on the T102 is at the
>>> rear and has a more conventional pin header socket, but on the M100 the
>>> system bus is a DIP socket inside the option ROM compartment.
>>> >
>>> > Are you sure you're plugging your ribbon cable in with the right
>>> orientation?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >jim
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>
>
>
>
> --
> bkw
>



-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] DVI issue

[Lee Kelley]

IIRC the rule of thumb is the cable is the same for the 102 and 200.  The
100 is unique.  The boot disk is the same on the 100 and 102.  And the 200
is unique.  Just FYI.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Randall Kindig 
wrote:

> There’s only one way it can go, really,  in order for everything to fit
> together properly.
> > On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:46 AM, Jim Anderson  wrote:
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >>
> >> The very first thing I noticed is that you plugged your cable into the
> >> RS-232 port of your T102.
> >>
> >> My cable has a chip on the end that plugs into the area next to the
> >> option ROM.  All the manuals that I’ve seen say that’s supposed to be
> >> the way it works.
> >
> > That's the way it's supposed to work on the M100, yes.  He's not using
> the serial port, though - the system bus connector on the T102 is at the
> rear and has a more conventional pin header socket, but on the M100 the
> system bus is a DIP socket inside the option ROM compartment.
> >
> > Are you sure you're plugging your ribbon cable in with the right
> orientation?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >jim
>
>


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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] REXCPM update.

[Lee Kelley]

Very exciting.

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Tom Hoppe  wrote:

> This is very cool!
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>> Just a short note to say I have finished verification of my REXCPM
>> board.  It provides up to 2MB of battery backed up SRAM in the OPTROM
>> socket, and it is good for providing the needed full 64KB of SRAM for CP/M
>> operation, plus provides ample space for RAM based disks.
>> It needs only 2 wires - one connected to the /WR signal, and one
>> connected nicad juice.
>>
>> In M100, you get /WR and RAMRST (which supplies nicad juice) on the
>> system bus connector.
>> In T102, you solder wires to the adjacent RAM chip to get /WR and Vb.
>>
>> ..Steve
>>
>
>


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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] model 200 dvi cable

[Lee Kelley]

I built mine from parts from Digikey but that was back in about 1991.

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Mike Stein  wrote:

> Something like this?
>
> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/5Pcs-2-54mm-0-1-Pitch-2x20-Pin-40-
> Pin-IDC-Male-Box-Header-Flat-Cable-Connector/182237978492?
> hash=item2a6e3adf7c:g:IVQAAOSw1QpZ9dl~
>
> m
>
> *From:* Brian White 
>
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 08, 2017 11:00 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] model 200 dvi cable
>
> Found it. Thanks. So it looks like a part that once was off the shelf, but
> now is not common, but maybe still available with enough looking, or if you
> simply knew a magic part number. Thanks again for the pic for reference.
>
> --
> bkw
>
> > I sent a picture on Oct. 17.
> > Normal crimp-on male header plug with twisted wires.
>
> >> Does anyone have a picture of a real original dvi cable for model 200?
> >> Specifically, the plug that goes in the 200?
> >> ...
> >> ...what did they give customers originally?
>
>
>


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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

[Lee Kelley]

I have an original one but might want a second one.  I'll go to the form.

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:30 PM, David Szasz  wrote:

> Thanks, your discussion is piquing my interest and making my mouth water.
> And it would certainly complement my infrequently used NADSbox to boot!
>
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Mike Stein  wrote:
>
>> I think a rough price point would be useful; why is that a problem?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Josh Malone 
>> *To:* Model 100 Discussion 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:26 PM
>> *Subject:* [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> There's been lots of interest lately in obtaining REX units. Several
>> members have now built REXes but we realize that not everybody wants to or
>> is equipped to build one. My personal feeling is that it would be great to
>> get these back "in stock" in one form or another. I think the first logical
>> step would be to see how many people actually want.
>>
>> Sooo...
>>
>> I've created a form that people can use to **express interest** in
>> acquiring a REX.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/forms/Kr4YgaskVhMCuzxz1
>>
>> This is basically a list of "how many REX units does the world need".
>> This is ONLY for the Tandy 100 or 102 REX.
>>
>> Please note:  This is NOT a pre-order!
>>
>> Filling out this form does NOT guarantee that you will get a REX. This
>> form is simply to gauge the number of REX units that it would take to meet
>> current demand from the community. The email address field is there only to
>> notify people if/when a board run is actually made, although I'm sure an
>> announcement will certainly be made on this list if/when a run is actually
>> made.
>>
>> This is just a research step. I'm not actively planning a board run, and
>> I have no idea what they would cost, though I hope it could be done around
>> the same price point as Club100 was selling. Maybe a number of people could
>> divide-and-conquer to meet current demand? Maybe we can organize a contract
>> manufacture run? I don't know.
>>
>> But, let us know if you want one. I'll share the results (numbers only)
>> on the list after a while.
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>>
>


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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] New Movie

[Lee Kelley]

OH yes I'm am in the movie
Actually a "Bad guy" in the movie has a laptop, it's a prop I set up, that
is an ASUS 10 inch convertible and I have Club 100 sticker, sent to me by
Rick a few years back, that is on the top covering the ASUS logo.


On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 11:36 AM, John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com> wrote:

>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 9:32 AM Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>
>> Have any of you heard of the new movie Sense of Urgency, there is a
>> Windows laptop type computer
>> ​in it but it has a "Club 100" sticker on the lid of the computer.
>>
>> I didn't see the sticker but I saw you :-)
>
> -- John.
>



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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

[M100] New Movie

[Lee Kelley]

Have any of you heard of the new movie Sense of Urgency, there is a Windows
laptop type computer
​in it but it has a "Club 100" sticker on the lid of the computer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A12XHinvF18
It appears to be just a "cameo" but I thought some of you might be
interested.​

Lee

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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Model 102 and DVI interface cable and software?

[Lee Kelley]

Very good observations, I have successfully built a cable for a 200 with
parts from digikey. But that was over 20 years ago. Have fun.

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017, Mike Stein  wrote:

> Right you are. I should just have looked at my cables; it's been a long
> time since I made and modified DVI cables and memory ain't what it used to
> be.
>
> DIP plugs are offset from dual-row IDC headers so I thought I remembered
> that the M100 and T200 cables had that offset, but instead they offset the
> DVI connector pinout to match the M100 so that the later T102 needed that
> kludged cable.
>
> m
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Brian White 
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:47 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Model 102 and DVI interface cable and software?
>
> I think the cable has every pair swapped. Someone was selling hand made
> cables on ebay a while back, and it was crimped normal on one side, and the
> other side the cable was split every 2 wires, and each pair was flipped
> over.
>
> ie:
> 1   2
> 2   1
> 3   4
> 4   3
> ...
> 27  28
> 28  27
>
> I saved a couple pics from the ebay ad. This cable is obviously for 102
> not 100, because neither end has dip pins.
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/Sm8xx3Ys2vJwpQYu7
>
> --
> bkw
>
> On Jul 12, 2017 9:41 AM, "Mike Stein"  > wrote:
>
>> Owner's manual here:
>> ftp://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/dvi.pdf
>>
>> I've never tried it but AFAIK the 102 and 200 use a straight-through
>> 40-pin cable such as used for older PC PATA hard disks.
>>
>> I don't know if anyone has figured out how to create a DVI boot disk from
>> scratch (i.e. an image file); your best bet would probably be to have
>> someone mail you a disk.
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Christopher" > >
>> To: > >
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:14 AM
>> Subject: [M100] Model 102 and DVI interface cable and software?
>>
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I managed to procure a Disk/Video Interface in good aesthetic condition
>> but untested. It also did not come with the bus interface cable required,
>> either for an M100 or M102, and did not come with any software.
>>
>> Any hints on getting this thing connected and tested? Is it possible to
>> buy or build the required interface cable to connect to a Model 102? What
>> about the software/driver? Is that something that can be loaded through
>> means other than a floppy in the DVI?
>>
>> (This also didn’t come with any documentation, so if I’m asking questions
>> that are obvious and are answered elsewhere, I apologize, and would love to
>> be directed to whatever information resources for the DVI exist.)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>>

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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Parts needed/trade?

[Lee Kelley]

I'd be interested in trading for the purple computing component possibly.

On Friday, June 9, 2017, Scott Lawrence  wrote:

>
> Hi all.
>
> I have an idea for a project, non-destructively using the display,
> keyboard and shell of an M100/M102/M200.  I have one of each in fully
> working order.  I think you can see where this is going.
>
> I like having these devices for my collection, so i'd likely end up
> keeping the removed mainboard for future restoration, if i go that route.
>
> What i'd like to do is perhaps trade for the above items..basically, parts
> from a salvage or something similar.
> - Enclosure (top and bottom case. any condition, can have missing badges,
> cracks, etc.  I'd like one with the LCD bezel/cover if possible.
> - Keyboard (can be dirty, preferrably with all caps, wiring or board
> damage are OK),
> - Display (in working order, no cracks or stuck/failed lines)
>
> Some items i have for trade:
>
> Purple Computing Expansion thingy.  I don't know the real name off-hand,
> and I don't think I've ever gotten it to power up.  It was snapped onto the
> bottom of my 102, it is loaded with ram and a few roms, but it seems like
> the wiring is incomplete. There was a battery of some kind inside of it,
> which is no longer there.  It will require some restoration work/research
> to use.
>
> Acoustic Coupler (in box).  I'd prefer to not lose this, as it's an
> awesome piece, but it's nice to complete a collection.
>
> TPDD2 drive.  Seems to power up.  I haven't really tried to use it.  No
> box/book.
>
>
> For what it's worth, what I want to do is to interface the keyboard and
> display either to a micro, and have it be a portable modern-speed serial
> terminal, or integrate in a full RC2014 Z80 computer into the shell as
> well, and have it be a portable RC2014. :)   But not at the expense of
> destroying a good T.  Interfacing to both appear to be fairly
> straightforward to do.
>
> -s
>
> --
> Scott Lawrence
> yor...@gmail.com 
>
>

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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Correct wiring setup for creating my own phone-modem cable (Din8 plug)

[Lee Kelley]

Club 100 should still have some RadioShack modem cables.  I sold about 20
of them to Rick a few years back.

On Thursday, June 8, 2017, user evers  wrote:

> Anyone have a link to wiring their own DIN-8 plug to work with phone/modem
> for use with the internal modem?
>
> I did have luck using my old phone coupler with the cell-phone (Iphone
> 5se) to classic handset method. But I think I have some line noise that is
> getting in the way.
> I won't lie, it was pretty neat checking into the Level 29 BBS.
>


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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Rick Hanson

[Lee Kelley]

I exchanged emails with and spoke with Rick on several occasions he was
always happy to help.  With me living in Fort Worth in the early 90's I had
easy access to some stock model T equipment and sent him a few things as
well as purchasing a few things from the club.  I spent many times chatting
with him via the dial up BBS as well.  I can hardly read an email from this
group or even pick up one of my M-100/102s without stopping and thinking of
Rick.  It would be nice to think that God has a big server room up there
that Rick gets to "sweep up" now and then. Happy birthday my friend!

On Thursday, December 8, 2016, Earl Evans  wrote:

> Many years ago I had a wonderful phone conversation with Rick. We talked
> about technology, life, you name it. We probably chatted for an hour. Oh,
> and he did get me set up with some accessories for my Model T :-)
>
> He was a true gentleman.
>
> - Earl
>
>

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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] M100 or M200 to Internet via WiFi

[Lee Kelley]

I recently got a c.h.i.p.  computer from Next Thing.  You can see it at
www.getchip.com.  it seems very promising.

On Monday, December 5, 2016, Howard Pepper  wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Yes, I use it on my LG G4, when the mood strikes me.  I also use
> AndChat for SSH'ing into my other Linux computers at home.
>
> Howard
> AC4FS
>
>
> On 12/05/2016 03:32 PM, Tom Hoppe wrote:
>
> Has anyone played with "Termux" on Android? It is just a Linux bash shell,
> but it has a (maintained) package manager and API into Android to allow
> some very interesting things (sending a text from the command line, taking
> a snapshot, reading the address book). I would really like to run a getty
> session to my M100/BlueM via Bluetooth, but no getty support...yet. This
> could be very interesting someday:
>
> https://termux.com/
>
> https://termux.com/add-on-api.html
>
> Tom Hoppe
> N7WNJ
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:14 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  > wrote:
>
>> How about connecting to a raspberry pi 3 via USB serial? It has wifi
>> on-board. Run Getty at 38400 with hardware flow control on the USB serial
>> port. Assemble HTERM for 38400bps and run it on model t. Then you would
>> need to get connected to wifi. You could use a command line wifi client to
>> connect to wifi. Then use w3m command line web browser to log in to the
>> access point. If you use a smart phone with hotspot you could avoid some of
>> that since you could use its wifi and there is no login. I have even seen a
>> cellular modem "hat" for rpi so you could go completely cellular and make
>> it very turnkey, work everywhere. The bandwidth usage of an all text system
>> would be extremely low so you could get data service very cheap... a pay as
>> you go plan. Like gousmobile or h2owireless. -- John.
>>
>
>
>

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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] [UK] Tandy Model 102 and 200 for sale

[Lee Kelley]

 I agree with Bruce for what it's worth.73...
KC5OID.

On 12/1/16, Mark Wickens  wrote:
> Hi Paco
>
> The Model 102 is £60 + postage at cost if you are interested.
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
>
> On 01-Dec-16 06:42 PM, Paco wrote:
>> Hello Mark.
>>
>> I'm interesting in this M102.
>>
>>
>> 2016-12-01 9:42 GMT+01:00 Mark Wickens > >:
>>
>> I have a Model 102 and a Model 200 for sale in very good condition.
>>
>>
>> http://i0.wp.com/www.wickensonline.co.uk/rc2012sc/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Tandy102-eBay-picture2.jpg
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> http://i1.wp.com/www.wickensonline.co.uk/rc2012sc/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/20150627_124027.jpg
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> http://i1.wp.com/www.wickensonline.co.uk/rc2012sc/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/20150627_124034.jpg
>>
>> 
>>
>> I'm moving into the world of Amateur Radio so need finances for that.
>>
>> I'll find some photos of the Model 200.
>>
>> Prepared to post worldwide but be mindful of the cost implications.
>>
>> If anyone is interested please contact me direct.
>>
>> Regards, Mark.
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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in our pains. It is His megaphone to arouse a deaf world."
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"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can
satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another
world." C.S. Lewis.

Re: [M100] PocketCHIP runs DL+ fine

[Lee Kelley]

I've pulled up info on Mystic, I haven't gotten a chance to look it over
much yet.  Is it not able to run in the 512 meg of ram on the CHIP in Linux?

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Andrew Roach <ajroac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BBS - Mystic BBS. There's a raspi build that should work.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:16 PM Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>
>> I received my CHIP as well.  I've been looking around to see what Linux
>> BBS program might be the best to make a connection with.  I would like to
>> embed the CHIP into a M100 or 102, I haven't actually laid out the case of
>> the M-t to see where yet but with as small as the CHIP is I think it can be
>> done.  I would like to be able to not only save and retrieve files but be
>> able to use it as a video adapter so I can connect a Model T to a projector
>> and even send and receive e-mails. I was thinking of using blue tooth for
>> the connection.  But mainly what ever is the smallest and will do the job.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 9:33 PM, John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yep. When I used a pi with model T I used a USB serial adapter.
>> We used one of the max232 hats on vending machines we integrated with
>> Pi's. They work fine, plug and play. 3 wire serial connections.
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:30 PM Willard Goosey <goo...@sdc.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:39:39AM +, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>> > Whatever works :-)
>>
>> It turns out the mono runtime's not nearly as huge as I feared it
>> would be...
>>
>> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 4:20 PM Willard Goosey <goo...@sdc.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Finally got my PocketCHIP last week, been doing all the updates and
>> > > installs on it. Finally got enough stuff installed to compile DLPLUS
>> > > and test it. Since DL+ worked fine on the CHIP it's no suprise it's
>> > > also fine on the PocketCHIP.
>>
>> I should've specified, this is on a USB to rs232 adapter. Both FTDI
>> and Prolific worked.
>>
>> It turns out, the CHIP and PI and whatever-other-sbc use 3.3V on the
>> "UART" pins. This will require a MAX3232 chip (Note: yes 3232 not 232)
>> to massage the signal levels. Apparently, on ebay one can get cute
>> little boards with the MAX chip and DB-9 all set up ready to
>> go. Unfortunately I'm pulling OT every week at work and simply haven't
>> had the time or energy to investigate. :-(
>>
>> Willard
>> --
>> Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
>> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
>> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>>   -- R.E. Howard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>
>


-- 
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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] PocketCHIP runs DL+ fine

[Lee Kelley]

I received my CHIP as well.  I've been looking around to see what Linux BBS
program might be the best to make a connection with.  I would like to embed
the CHIP into a M100 or 102, I haven't actually laid out the case of the
M-t to see where yet but with as small as the CHIP is I think it can be
done.  I would like to be able to not only save and retrieve files but be
able to use it as a video adapter so I can connect a Model T to a projector
and even send and receive e-mails. I was thinking of using blue tooth for
the connection.  But mainly what ever is the smallest and will do the job.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 9:33 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> Yep. When I used a pi with model T I used a USB serial adapter.
> We used one of the max232 hats on vending machines we integrated with
> Pi's. They work fine, plug and play. 3 wire serial connections.
>
> -- John.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:30 PM Willard Goosey  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:39:39AM +, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>> > Whatever works :-)
>>
>> It turns out the mono runtime's not nearly as huge as I feared it
>> would be...
>>
>> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 4:20 PM Willard Goosey  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Finally got my PocketCHIP last week, been doing all the updates and
>> > > installs on it. Finally got enough stuff installed to compile DLPLUS
>> > > and test it. Since DL+ worked fine on the CHIP it's no suprise it's
>> > > also fine on the PocketCHIP.
>>
>> I should've specified, this is on a USB to rs232 adapter. Both FTDI
>> and Prolific worked.
>>
>> It turns out, the CHIP and PI and whatever-other-sbc use 3.3V on the
>> "UART" pins. This will require a MAX3232 chip (Note: yes 3232 not 232)
>> to massage the signal levels. Apparently, on ebay one can get cute
>> little boards with the MAX chip and DB-9 all set up ready to
>> go. Unfortunately I'm pulling OT every week at work and simply haven't
>> had the time or energy to investigate. :-(
>>
>> Willard
>> --
>> Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
>> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
>> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>>   -- R.E. Howard
>>
>


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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Lee Kelley]

I just pulled it up on firefox and it comes up like it is fine with the
display showing the normal menu but with no keyboard.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:

> On my windows 10 asus tablet it's not working.
> The screen is blank and the keys have a partial graphic of {shi{{ on each
> key. I'm also using MS Edge for the browser at this time.
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:56 AM, James <james.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just got back from a camping trip over the weekend and I saw this email.
>> I'm sat thinking, CloudT what the heck? Has some boffin got their M100
>> saving files to the cloud? Now THATS dedication! lol
>>
>> Nope someone has got the M100 working on their iPad / Droid tablet *face
>> palm* Where the heck will I connect my TPDD2? Hmm? :-P
>>
>> This is a very cool project, fantastic for anyone who doesn't own a real
>> one. Think my iPad will be getting some M100 treatment later.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/08/16 15:40, Josh Malone wrote:
>>
>>> I get about 0.8-0.9 on my Galaxy S4 - sometimes hits 1Mhz.
>>>
>>> I'm using a swype keyboard. I'll hafta try a different keyboard at some
>>> point.
>>>
>>> -Josh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:51 AM, John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com
>>> <mailto:jho...@pobox.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Willard Goosey <goo...@sdc.org
>>> <mailto:goo...@sdc.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, that's quite a compliment!
>>>
>>> My tablet runs CloudT at about .9 MHz according to the
>>> display, so if you don't have a faster android, ROG is gonna
>>> be rather slow beyond level 5 or so... OTOH the only place ROG
>>> even approaches "bare metal" is up at the top where it PEEK()s
>>> the system clock.
>>>
>>> Willard
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah. It gets up to  5 or 6 MHz in turbo mode on iPhone.
>>>
>>> I have some speed optimizations I could still try.
>>>
>>> On android though, since emulators are allowed in the store I may
>>> make the core run native rather than in JavaScript to get more
>>> speed. It would also let me integrate the keyboard better.
>>>
>>> -- John.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
> family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>



-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Announcing: CloudT emulator (EXPERIMENTAL)

[Lee Kelley]

On my windows 10 asus tablet it's not working.
The screen is blank and the keys have a partial graphic of {shi{{ on each
key. I'm also using MS Edge for the browser at this time.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:56 AM, James  wrote:

> Just got back from a camping trip over the weekend and I saw this email.
> I'm sat thinking, CloudT what the heck? Has some boffin got their M100
> saving files to the cloud? Now THATS dedication! lol
>
> Nope someone has got the M100 working on their iPad / Droid tablet *face
> palm* Where the heck will I connect my TPDD2? Hmm? :-P
>
> This is a very cool project, fantastic for anyone who doesn't own a real
> one. Think my iPad will be getting some M100 treatment later.
>
> -James
>
>
>
> On 29/08/16 15:40, Josh Malone wrote:
>
>> I get about 0.8-0.9 on my Galaxy S4 - sometimes hits 1Mhz.
>>
>> I'm using a swype keyboard. I'll hafta try a different keyboard at some
>> point.
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:51 AM, John R. Hogerhuis > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Willard Goosey > > wrote:
>>
>> Wow, that's quite a compliment!
>>
>> My tablet runs CloudT at about .9 MHz according to the
>> display, so if you don't have a faster android, ROG is gonna
>> be rather slow beyond level 5 or so... OTOH the only place ROG
>> even approaches "bare metal" is up at the top where it PEEK()s
>> the system clock.
>>
>> Willard
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>
>>
>> Yeah. It gets up to  5 or 6 MHz in turbo mode on iPhone.
>>
>> I have some speed optimizations I could still try.
>>
>> On android though, since emulators are allowed in the store I may
>> make the core run native rather than in JavaScript to get more
>> speed. It would also let me integrate the keyboard better.
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Hello!

[Lee Kelley]

In your first post you said you replaced the internal battery, I assume
that was the soldered in place ni-cad.   The next step that I would do is
to disconnect every connector be sure the contacts are clean and re insert
it.  This might be all that's needed.  This should include any socketed
chip as well.

Lee

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:34 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, June 27, 2016, Ryan Fransen  wrote:
>
>> Lee, though this trick certainly did work, it seems this needs to be
>> repeated each time.  Once turned off, then back to square one.  Something
>> else odd, is that the trick appears to work only ~50% of the time, whereas
>> just turning off and on, will not result in anything more than the solid
>> pixels.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
> The m100 had an internal nicd battery. Normally units I get off eBay have
> to sit plugged into the wall wart overnight before they function properly.
>
> It could also be that your nicd is shot and needs to be replaced. You
> could check the voltage across it after letting it charge.
>
> -- John.
>



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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] chip

[Lee Kelley]

it does but it's recommended that one use a powered hub if using more than
one usb item.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Ken Pettit <petti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If CHIP supports USB host, then it might.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 5/25/16 9:42 AM, Josh Malone wrote:
>
> Sure. I was just hoping that the CHIP had a 5v boost regulator that could
> spare 65mA :)
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>
>> Find a 3.3 l-ion that will fit in the AA area and then put a ramp circuit
>> to raise it up to the needed 6 volts. That could work couldn't it?
>> That would involve not having it connected to the AA connections but only
>> the output of the ramp circuit connected to the leads for the M100.
>> It sounds like a lot of work but it would be a fun project.
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tiny computers have always had powerful peripherals, out of necessity.
>>> The C64 had an entire second 6502 in the disk drive and it's own mini OS.
>>>
>>> For me, the biggest consideration is that the M100 still be completely
>>> and independently functional. Still has great battery life, instant-on and
>>> a great keyboard.
>>>
>>> It's not clear to be from the CHIP docs on a quick glance, but I wonder
>>> if the CHIP could actually be used to provide the +5v supply for the entire
>>> M100. It just has to spare less than 100mA from it's internal power supply
>>> and suddenly you get a rechargeable supply for the M100 as a bonus. Only
>>> works if the CHIP has a 5v rail though, and I can't tell that it does. The
>>> power management chip only appears to have 3.3v. :-/
>>>
>>> -Josh
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It somehow does not appeal to me to stick a thing like that in a m100.
>>>> You could emulate the entire m100 on that, and just use the gutted shell of
>>>> a m100 for it's screen and keyboard. Then you have all the option roms and
>>>> hackable system roms and all the switchable ram banks in the world... but
>>>> what would be the point? Might as well just use a pc.
>>>>
>>>> But it's literally not possible to get say tcp/ip without the network
>>>> module having essentially it's own computer inside that is more than the
>>>> entire m100, so I guess it's unavoidable to have "peripherals" that are
>>>> actually more powerful than the "host".
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> bkw
>>>> On May 25, 2016 9:46 AM, "Lee Kelley" <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It has an onbord charge controler for an optional lithem battery it
>>>>> could either be powered by connecting the power input to the input for the
>>>>> M-100 being that they are almost the same power thus being able to charge
>>>>> the chip battery from the normal M-100 power supply, with maybe only a
>>>>> small isolator circuit ie a diode.  Or one could place an additonal
>>>>> connector in the side of the M-100 for this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Andrew Roach <ajroac...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How will you power the chip if you put it internal?
>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:07 AM Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll order shortly and I do believe I will do surgery, it's not like
>>>>>>> I only have one Model T...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Willard Goosey <goo...@sdc.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 05:36:28PM -0700, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Make a good internet bridge though since it has wifi. If hooked
>>>>>>>> > internal could wire it in place of the modem maybe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just ordered a PocketCHIP (CHIP in a small case with battery,
>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>> and its own LCD screen). I figure, plug in a USB->RS232 adapter and
>>>>>>>> job done!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Myself I'm not chopping up the Model 100, even to replace the
>>>>>>>> 300baud
>>>>>>>> modem with something more useful. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Willard
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
>>>>>>>> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
>>>>>>>> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>>>>>>>>   -- R.E. Howard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>>>>>>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>>>>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>
>
>
>


-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] chip

[Lee Kelley]

That would be great and maybe we will find out.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sure. I was just hoping that the CHIP had a 5v boost regulator that could
> spare 65mA :)
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>
>> Find a 3.3 l-ion that will fit in the AA area and then put a ramp circuit
>> to raise it up to the needed 6 volts. That could work couldn't it?
>> That would involve not having it connected to the AA connections but only
>> the output of the ramp circuit connected to the leads for the M100.
>> It sounds like a lot of work but it would be a fun project.
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tiny computers have always had powerful peripherals, out of necessity.
>>> The C64 had an entire second 6502 in the disk drive and it's own mini OS.
>>>
>>> For me, the biggest consideration is that the M100 still be completely
>>> and independently functional. Still has great battery life, instant-on and
>>> a great keyboard.
>>>
>>> It's not clear to be from the CHIP docs on a quick glance, but I wonder
>>> if the CHIP could actually be used to provide the +5v supply for the entire
>>> M100. It just has to spare less than 100mA from it's internal power supply
>>> and suddenly you get a rechargeable supply for the M100 as a bonus. Only
>>> works if the CHIP has a 5v rail though, and I can't tell that it does. The
>>> power management chip only appears to have 3.3v. :-/
>>>
>>> -Josh
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It somehow does not appeal to me to stick a thing like that in a m100.
>>>> You could emulate the entire m100 on that, and just use the gutted shell of
>>>> a m100 for it's screen and keyboard. Then you have all the option roms and
>>>> hackable system roms and all the switchable ram banks in the world... but
>>>> what would be the point? Might as well just use a pc.
>>>>
>>>> But it's literally not possible to get say tcp/ip without the network
>>>> module having essentially it's own computer inside that is more than the
>>>> entire m100, so I guess it's unavoidable to have "peripherals" that are
>>>> actually more powerful than the "host".
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> bkw
>>>> On May 25, 2016 9:46 AM, "Lee Kelley" <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It has an onbord charge controler for an optional lithem battery it
>>>>> could either be powered by connecting the power input to the input for the
>>>>> M-100 being that they are almost the same power thus being able to charge
>>>>> the chip battery from the normal M-100 power supply, with maybe only a
>>>>> small isolator circuit ie a diode.  Or one could place an additonal
>>>>> connector in the side of the M-100 for this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Andrew Roach <ajroac...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How will you power the chip if you put it internal?
>>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:07 AM Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll order shortly and I do believe I will do surgery, it's not like
>>>>>>> I only have one Model T...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Willard Goosey <goo...@sdc.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 05:36:28PM -0700, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Make a good internet bridge though since it has wifi. If hooked
>>>>>>>> > internal could wire it in place of the modem maybe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just ordered a PocketCHIP (CHIP in a small case with battery,
>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>> and its own LCD screen). I figure, plug in a USB->RS232 adapter and
>>>>>>>> job done!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Myself I'm not chopping up the Model 100, even to replace the
>>>>>>>> 300baud
>>>>>>>> modem with something more useful. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Willard
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
>>>>>>>> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
>>>>>>>> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>>>>>>>>   -- R.E. Howard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>>>>>>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>>>>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>
>
>


-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] chip

[Lee Kelley]

Find a 3.3 l-ion that will fit in the AA area and then put a ramp circuit
to raise it up to the needed 6 volts. That could work couldn't it?
That would involve not having it connected to the AA connections but only
the output of the ramp circuit connected to the leads for the M100.
It sounds like a lot of work but it would be a fun project.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tiny computers have always had powerful peripherals, out of necessity. The
> C64 had an entire second 6502 in the disk drive and it's own mini OS.
>
> For me, the biggest consideration is that the M100 still be completely and
> independently functional. Still has great battery life, instant-on and a
> great keyboard.
>
> It's not clear to be from the CHIP docs on a quick glance, but I wonder if
> the CHIP could actually be used to provide the +5v supply for the entire
> M100. It just has to spare less than 100mA from it's internal power supply
> and suddenly you get a rechargeable supply for the M100 as a bonus. Only
> works if the CHIP has a 5v rail though, and I can't tell that it does. The
> power management chip only appears to have 3.3v. :-/
>
> -Josh
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It somehow does not appeal to me to stick a thing like that in a m100.
>> You could emulate the entire m100 on that, and just use the gutted shell of
>> a m100 for it's screen and keyboard. Then you have all the option roms and
>> hackable system roms and all the switchable ram banks in the world... but
>> what would be the point? Might as well just use a pc.
>>
>> But it's literally not possible to get say tcp/ip without the network
>> module having essentially it's own computer inside that is more than the
>> entire m100, so I guess it's unavoidable to have "peripherals" that are
>> actually more powerful than the "host".
>>
>> --
>> bkw
>> On May 25, 2016 9:46 AM, "Lee Kelley" <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It has an onbord charge controler for an optional lithem battery it
>>> could either be powered by connecting the power input to the input for the
>>> M-100 being that they are almost the same power thus being able to charge
>>> the chip battery from the normal M-100 power supply, with maybe only a
>>> small isolator circuit ie a diode.  Or one could place an additonal
>>> connector in the side of the M-100 for this.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Andrew Roach <ajroac...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How will you power the chip if you put it internal?
>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:07 AM Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll order shortly and I do believe I will do surgery, it's not like I
>>>>> only have one Model T...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Willard Goosey <goo...@sdc.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 05:36:28PM -0700, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Make a good internet bridge though since it has wifi. If hooked
>>>>>> > internal could wire it in place of the modem maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just ordered a PocketCHIP (CHIP in a small case with battery,
>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>> and its own LCD screen). I figure, plug in a USB->RS232 adapter and
>>>>>> job done!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Myself I'm not chopping up the Model 100, even to replace the 300baud
>>>>>> modem with something more useful. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Willard
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
>>>>>> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
>>>>>> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>>>>>>   -- R.E. Howard
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>>>>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>>
>>
>


-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] chip

[Lee Kelley]

It has an onbord charge controler for an optional lithem battery it could
either be powered by connecting the power input to the input for the M-100
being that they are almost the same power thus being able to charge the
chip battery from the normal M-100 power supply, with maybe only a small
isolator circuit ie a diode.  Or one could place an additonal connector in
the side of the M-100 for this.


On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Andrew Roach <ajroac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How will you power the chip if you put it internal?
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:07 AM Lee Kelley <l...@3footed.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll order shortly and I do believe I will do surgery, it's not like I
>> only have one Model T...
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Willard Goosey <goo...@sdc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 05:36:28PM -0700, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>>>
>>> > Make a good internet bridge though since it has wifi. If hooked
>>> > internal could wire it in place of the modem maybe.
>>>
>>> I just ordered a PocketCHIP (CHIP in a small case with battery, keyboard
>>> and its own LCD screen). I figure, plug in a USB->RS232 adapter and job
>>> done!
>>>
>>> Myself I'm not chopping up the Model 100, even to replace the 300baud
>>> modem with something more useful. :-)
>>>
>>> Willard
>>> --
>>> Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
>>> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
>>> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>>>   -- R.E. Howard
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the
>> whole family"*  Arther P. Jacobs
>>
>


-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] chip

[Lee Kelley]

I'll order shortly and I do believe I will do surgery, it's not like I only
have one Model T...

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Willard Goosey  wrote:

> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 05:36:28PM -0700, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>
> > Make a good internet bridge though since it has wifi. If hooked
> > internal could wire it in place of the modem maybe.
>
> I just ordered a PocketCHIP (CHIP in a small case with battery, keyboard
> and its own LCD screen). I figure, plug in a USB->RS232 adapter and job
> done!
>
> Myself I'm not chopping up the Model 100, even to replace the 300baud
> modem with something more useful. :-)
>
> Willard
> --
> Willard Goosey  goo...@sdc.org
> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>   -- R.E. Howard
>



-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

[M100] chip

[Lee Kelley]

Have any of you seen the c.h.i.p computer?  Check it out at www.getchip.com.
If this can be shoe horned into the inside of the case or just keep it
external, I would want to put it inside, it could be bridged via normal
serial and then it could provide composite and hdmi or vga along with 4
gigs of storage and 512 megs of ram for it's linux OS.  It has wifi and
blue tooth as well as USB and a wide assortment of other io pins.
And it's suposed to sell for only $9.00.
I will be ordering one and hopefully I'll have it before the end of June
and see what can be done.

Lee


-- 
*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] A New ROM on the way

[Lee Kelley]

Wow that sounds really good.  Keep us posted.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Kurt McCullum 
wrote:

> I've been working on a new ROM for my NEC for about a year now and I'm
> just about ready to release it. I took the Sardine ROM and TS-DOS ROM and
> figured out how to merge them into one. It required me to move 33 bytes of
> code from Sardine higher up into the ROM area, removal of the internal 7k
> word dictionary and then adding TS-DOS. I had to change some of the jumps
> in TS-DOS to match the OptROM code that switches back and forth to the
> regular system ROM but everything is working really well now. The two
> outstanding issues are to get rid of the Sardine prompt that asks if you
> want to spell check with the Rom or Disk and the T-Word indicator that
> checks to see if DOS is loaded. Right now it is looking for the RAM hooks
> not the ROM hooks. Once I have these two items ironed out I'll post it.
>
> Kurt
>



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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] TPDD2 Data cable pinout?

[Lee Kelley]

Sorry I looked the body of the email over and couldn't find it then after
sending I saw the info in the subject line.   But I have not heard of any
one successfully reverse engineering one if these.  It spears to have
"extras" in the cable.

Sorry.

On Monday, January 11, 2016, Geoff Oltmans  wrote:

> Does anyone have the pinout for the data cable? The schematic isn't clear
> what pin is what apart from the grounds.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff
>
>

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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

[M100] http://www.littlecherubentertainment.com/cherub-store/

[Lee Kelley]

Hey guys, and gal's, I know this is not directly related to the m100 but I
was told that you might be interested in a movie I was in and part of
production of.  It's direct to DVD right now although we will have it in
some theaters.

You can watch the trailer at www.sitwmovie.com and it can be purchased at
http://www.littlecherubentertainment.com/cherub-store/

And I did keep a prop list on my m100 for the movie.

Thanks.

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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] TDock one step closer

[Lee Kelley]

Frugal is a good word too...

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:55 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Ken Pettit  wrote:
>
> > The implementation in the picture is a daughter card for the Raspberry
> Pi 2
> > B (a "Pi Hat").  It connects with the Model T parallel port for primary
> > communication of video data, but also has an RS-232 port (and a BCR
> port).
> > It also has a "pass-through" LPT connector where your old LPT printer
> can be
> > connected.  Making TDock a Pi Hat was the simplest and cheapest approach,
> > though it is not very portable and has the requirement of booting /
> shutting
> > down Linux.
> >
>
> With a juice pack or other gadget the Pi can be portable.
>
> We're going to be testing one of these boards where I work very soon:
>
> http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/breakout-boards/pi-modules/ups-pico
>
> This gives the Pi the chance to power down gracefully if power is cut.
> Also it has a hookup for adding an external battery so you can power
> the pi for hours if you like.
>
> We're going to be testing it because of stability issues due to hard
> power cycles.
>
> This is important because at least with the default images floating
> around for the Pi, the boot image corrupts easily. In our case, we
> need portions of the SD card filesystem to be read/write. I've also
> done various things to lock down the file system making specific
> portions read-only, set noatime, log to ramdisk instead of SD card,
> etc but I don't know how much if at all these changes will help until
> we really start rolling it out in larger numbers.
>
> -- John.
>



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*"I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] USB "juice pack"

[Lee Kelley]

I do think that might be powerful enough, just not quite pocket sized or
all that portable.  But *definitely* plenty of juice.  And versatile too...

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Jeff Gonzales  wrote:

> I just got one of these:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-XP2260-Instant-Portable-Source/dp/B004EIAADG
>
> It should power my m100 for awhile.  :)
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Peter Vollan 
> wrote:
>
>> What we need is a USB to adaptaplug cable.
>>
>>
>> On 27 November 2015 at 13:40, Brad Whitlock 
>> wrote:
>> > The juice packs should put out 5V, the same as you'd get from 4
>> rechargeable
>> > batteries, so it should just be a matter of making a cable with USB on
>> one
>> > end and the right size coax power on the other.
>> >
>> > Alkaline AA battery capacity ranges from 1800-2600 mAH, so for a 2200
>> mAh
>> > juice pack I'd expect the M100 to run about as long as it does on
>> alkaline
>> > AAs.  Make sense?
>> >
>> > Brad
>> > 
>> > From: John R. Hogerhuis 
>> > To: Model 100 Discussion 
>> > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 2:57 PM
>> > Subject: [M100] USB "juice pack"
>> >
>> > Anyone know what it takes to use the phone charger "juice packs" to run
>> a
>> > M100?
>> >
>> > Is there an off the shelf connector or converter needed or would I
>> > have to build something myself?
>> >
>> > I have a handful of vendor swag cheapie units laying around. Running a
>> > Raspberry Pi off one of them.
>> >
>> > -- John.
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>


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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Is it possible to use USb flash drive with a Model 100

[Lee Kelley]

So this is why we can't just connect a parallel port pc drive and make it
work.  But by using this busy signal line and special code one can send and
receive messages.
Do does that make the receive side of the process faster for the model T
than the send side of the equation or is the same process used both
directions?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:22 AM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> Laddiealpha is a Tpdd emulator and I've already tested it on the Pi.  Runs
> fine.
>
>
> -- John.
>



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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Is it possible to use USb flash drive with a Model 100

[Lee Kelley]

This would be a wonderful alternative but years ago I was under the
impression that data could not travel into the model 100 on it's parallel
port being that it was not a true bi-directional port.  Is that wrong?

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Ken Pettit  wrote:

> Actually, I have an idea that would be REALLY cheap, but it's a software
> effort on the M100 side.  It would be a device that connects the M100
> directly to a USB port on any PC / Linux / Pi, etc.  I would use the device
> below (STM32 which has 5V tolerant I/O) with some tight ISR code to
> interface with the parallel port.  Using this board, it would only take a
> couple of small, simple, dirt cheap interface boards from OSH Park (only
> needs routing and a 26-pin connector to connect to M100 LPT port).
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Practical-STM32F103C8T6-Minimum-Development-Arduino/dp/B00OOKAFM0
>
> Then with the right software (on M100, ARM and PC / Pi), when you "plug"
> the Model T into the PC, it simply appears as a Mass Storage Device.
> Simply drag and drop files to / from your M100.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 11/28/15 6:40 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote:
>
> I believe it would be a great project to take some mass produced hardware
> and software and find a way to solve M100 specific problems.  That's true
> open source.
>
> I saw that Uber cheap pi. They don't quote power but I believe it is
> vastly more than the M100 itself.
>
> It is all tradeoffs!
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2015, John Martin 
> wrote:
> > I would like to have a NADSBox and REX card. But these items are
> expensive.
> >
> > I am sure there are cheaper alternatives. If you can buy a Raspberry Pi
> ranging from $5 to $35. That is very CHEAP for what it can do.
> >
> > https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
> >
> > John M
> >
> >
> >  > If it made financial sense, I might consider making another run of
> >  > NADSBoxes, but it just doesn't.  With all the setup costs with
> >  > machining the enclosures, PCB fab NRE, etc., plus component costs, my
> >  > up-front cash expenditure the last time was $12,000, and that was
> >  > before selling a single NADSBox.  Sadly, while there is demand for
> >  > additional NADSBoxes, there doesn't seem to be *enough* demand to
> >  > even cover the expense of building them.
> >
> > That's a real shame, Ken.  The NADSBox is amazing, and I use it all the
> > time.
> >
> > I recently got a REX card from Stephen Adolph and that, in combination
> > with the NADSbox, make my T102 a truly useful everyday tool.
> >
> > I think a REX card in combination with the DeskLink TPDD emulator
> > running on your Window
>
>
>


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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] time

[Lee Kelley]

At one time there was a phone number for that and someone won a programming
contest for writing a program to do just that.
http://www.club100.org/blosxom/contest2010/vollan/nist/nistdo.do

Lee

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Peter Vollan  wrote:

> ISTR that there is a way that the m100 can do telnet, but not ssh
>
>
> On 23 October 2015 at 14:08, Josh Malone  wrote:
> > Now we just need an Ethernet to serial adapter for the model t :-)
> >
> > On Oct 23, 2015 3:32 PM, "Peter Vollan"  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have just learned that if you "telnet time.nist.gov", the NIST sends
> >> you a string containing the accurate time and date (UTC of course). It
> >> seems to that that his could come in handy synchronising the Model T
> >> to accurate time.
>



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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Keyboard Layout

[Lee Kelley]

It's not

*Dvorak which is what I checked out being that I don't parlyvu fransay.
lol*
*On an other note if you set up a computer for **Dvorak and then remote
controle into it from a computer that is not set for *

*Dvorak it can be pretty confusing when you forget about it*

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Mike Stein  wrote:

> AKA AZERTY
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Geoffrey Oltmans 
> *To:* Model 100 Discussion 
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2015 2:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Keyboard Layout
>
> Looks like just a standard French keyboard layout.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Kurt McCullum 
> wrote:
>
>> Saw this 102 today and other than being a French version, I noticed the
>> keyboard layout was like nothing I had ever seen before. Is anybody
>> familiar with this arrangement of keys?
>>
>> Ordinateur TANDY 102 avec boite BOXED computer
>> 
>>
>> [image: image]
>> 
>>
>> Ordinateur TANDY 102 avec boite BOXED computer
>> 
>> US $67.34 Seller refurbished in Computers/Tablets & Networking, Vintage
>> Computing, Other Vintage Computing
>> View on www.ebay.com
>> 
>> Preview by Yahoo
>>
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>


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family"*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] Serial to VGA module

[Lee Kelley]

I wonder if the code for the Mikro Kolor device would be helpful at all.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 5:36 PM, John R. Hogerhuis jho...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Joe Grubbs jsgru...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  I saw this posted on a Facebook group and it got me thinking. I wonder if
  this could be repurposed (with some ancillary hardware and ROM tweaks) to
  give the Model 100/200/102 an external VGA display for very little money:
 
  http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/serial-vga
 
  It accepts serial data and drives a text based VGA display at 800x600
  resolution. Additionally, it understands escape sequences to manage
 simple
  text windows, etc. It's pretty cool, and it got my wheels turning.
 

 Says the source code is available so you could modify it to handle the
 full character set and raw escapes.

 -- John.




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Re: [M100] anyone got any spare Tandy 200 keys switches?

[Lee Kelley]

I have found a spare keyboard but I have no knowledge of it's
functionality.  I'm sure some of the keys are salvageable at least.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Lucas Roberts lucasmrobe...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Sorry for replying to late. When I bought my T200 it had a couple of dead
 keys. I had some luck cleaning the rubber up and then marking it up with a
 pencil to add some graphite to it. Probably not as permanent of a fix as it
 could be but its been holding up pretty well so far.

 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Mark Wickens m...@wickensonline.co.uk
 wrote:

 So, I took apart the Tandy 200 and it turns out that the issue with the
 non-functional keys is the switches themselves. I have 3 that don't work,
 I don't suppose anyone has any spare they could send me please? Other than
 that the unit works great.

 Many thanks, Mark

 P.s. I'm in the UK, happy to cover postage costs.

 http://www.wickensonline.co.uk
 http://declegacy.org.uk
 http://retrochallenge.net
 https://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo

  On 3 Jul 2015, at 20:31, Peter Vollan dprogra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, I am now back in the saddle as far as the Model T is
  concerned. You may or may not recall that my Model 100 was resetting
  like crazy. People told me it shouldn't do that and that I needed a
  new unit, which I did not think was very helpful. In my attempts to
  fix it I managed to totally hose it (the m100 just turned on to a
  blank screen), and I wrecked my M-10 as well. This was such a sad tale
  that I may not have told you guys about it.
 
  This week from Craigslist I got a nice Model 100 complete with
  original adaptor and a snappy canvas carrying case proudly emblazoned
  with Radio Shack. They guy I got it from said I don't think the
  battery works, and I amazed him by showing him that it runs on 4 AAs.
  The only problem it seems to have is with the display: There are these
  two lines running across the screen, two pixels high I think. I am
  pretty sure that we have been over this problem before, is it just the
  display or is there some other issue? Because I could easily swap the
  display from my older Model 100 while I swapping over the extra RAM
  and REXX.




 --
 Lucas




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Re: [M100] Silent List

[Lee Kelley]

Well I do see a post from the 19th...  OH that's 9 days...hu...or is it
just zz.
No problem though, it happens and then They'll be back...


On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Hiraghm hira...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Just checking to see if it's really been 9 days since there's been any
 activity on the mailing list, or if somehow my mail client's filtering it
 out...




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Re: [M100] Rex upgrade

[Lee Kelley]

I think I'm going to wait for Rex 95


On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Stephen Adolph twospru...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Great! Glad to hear it!!


 On Sunday, June 14, 2015, gotoole goto...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 
  Thanks Steve I have now upgraded to 4.9 and all is working fine.
 
 
 
  Regards
 
 
 
  Gordon O’Toole
 
 
 
  From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of
 Stephen Adolph
  Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2015 12:12 AM
  To: Model 100 Discussion
  Subject: Re: [M100] Rex upgrade
 
 
 
  Run the program REXU.
  Looks like you are doing the 4.7 upgrade.
  I recommend going straight to 4.9.
  4.9 is a full wipe and rebuild.
  Steve
  -=]\-[‘
 
 
 
  ‘[-=- wrote:
  Hi All
 
 
 
  Trying to upgrade my Rex using the below procedure
 
 
 
  I am up to step 4 and when I do this just tells me  Ok  and that is it.
 
 
 
  What am I doing wrong  ?
 
 
 
  Regards
 
   [p]\
 
  Gordon O’Toole
 
 
 
  Steps to a happy upgrade
 
  1. Start the upgrade from a cold booted laptop. While not necessary, it
 ensures the laptop is working nominally with no lurking problems. If you
 have important data please save your current RAM image to REX, and then to
 TPDD if needed.
 
  2. Regarding your saved RAM images with important data saved within -
 please back those up to an external TPDD device using the SAVE function. In
 case there is a problem, you will be glad you did - it will ensure your
 data is safe should the REX directory get garbled. This takes only a few
 minutes.
 
  3. Download the upgrade package, and place the 2 files in your favorite
 TPDD device or emulator so they are accessible to the LAPTOP.
 
  DELETE ANY PREVIOUS COPIES OF –[]\\’
  and REX147.BR
 
  4. Upload the program REXU1.CO to the laptop. Issue the command
 CLEAR0,59960 in BASIC so that REXU1.CO can run.
 
  5. At the prompt, press Y to save your current SYSTEM to TPDD. It is
 recommended that you save your existing image just to be safe. Keeping the
 system image allows you to revert to that if something unforseen happens
 during the upgrade. Provide a unique filename (something like REXBAK to
 safely identify the system image backup.
 
  6. At the prompt, proceed to upgrade the software image by pressing Y,
 or quit the application using N, Q or ESC. (N, Q and ESC are equivalent).
 Confirm your intention to upgrade the system by confirming with Y at the
 next prompt, or abandon using N. If you confirm the upgrade, the upgrade
 process will proceed by erasing the first 16k of the system image,
 containing the system software, and replacing it with the binary image
 REX147.BR stored on TPDD.
 
  Be careful to keep the laptop powered up during the flash process!
 
  REXU will load the new software into block 0, and copy the software to
 block 1, then it will restart REXMGR to complete the installation.
 
 
 
  DONE!
 
 
 
  No virus found in this message.
  Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
  ./
  Version: 2015.0.5961 / Virus Database: 4360/10006 - Release Date:
 06/13/15




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Re: [M100] File transfer problems. A couple of them, actually

[Lee Kelley]

IIRC normally one must save their BA files as a DO file before transferring
it from or to your Model 100.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:31 PM, mechanicalgenius mechanicalgen...@cox.net
 wrote:

 Good morning folks

 So, I just installed a TS-DOS ROM in my M100. I have laddiealpha running
 on a Vista laptop.  I have a Prolific Usb-serial converter running on com1,
 9600, 8n1, no flow control. Null modem adapter inline with an rs-232 tester
 plugged into the serial port on the M100.

 Once in a while I can connect to the pc from TS-DOS, and transfer files,
  however the .BA files that transfer won't run. I get a syntax error in the
 first line,  and that line is always corrupt.  While in basic,  when I
 execute the list command, it invariably shows only the first line,  which
 is combined with a couple other of the first lines of code.  Also, when I
 look at the directory on the pc while I'm in TS-DOS, all the .BA files show
 .DB. In Windows,  they show .BA.

 Other times,  the two machines just won't connect.  Laddiealpha shows hex
 characters when I try to connect from TS-DOS. I get a connection error
 often.  When I cold boot and re-call TS-DOS, it usually works.

 Now the big question,  what could I be doing wrong to be so close, yet not
 quite there?

 Robert




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*I will never in my lifetime make a film that cannot be seen by the whole
family*  Arther P. Jacobs

Re: [M100] $9 Computer

[Lee Kelley]

This is interesting stuff.  I'll keep watching.  But realize there was
already a Model 2000.

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Flow gmail flowcharles...@gmail.com
wrote:

 How about a projection screen either directly onto the eyeball a la
 Google Glasses, or large on any available surface ?  This would free up the
 entire surface for a keyboard and stylus pad.  The Model 10001 would be
 thinner and lighter than a MacAir and be efficient enough for solar
 power/sponge battery recharge.

 Or, clamshell with keyboard in removable top, like Mac peripheral, and
 full face touchscreen.

 Let us know when you have it ready.

 Or,

 Gene Corrigan
 flowcharles...@gmail.com

 On May 13, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Steven Ranft s_ra...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I like it: Let's design a Model 2000

 I think it should be as high tech as we can make it. It should be ahead of
 it's time
 Like the first M 100 was and totally customizable and adaptable.

 The ROM should be flashable from an SD card. This machine should boot from
 Flash ROM but be bootable from USB, SD, or network.

 Perhaps it should have multiple CPUs to allow native DOS, and modern 64
 bit OS on the same platform.

 Making it Open-source would make it much more attractive to a larger
 audience.

 I don't know if LCD is the way to go.

 The Nook and Kindle e-readers have High resolution paper white display
 that go for days,
 they also are very readable in all lighting conditions.

 1280 x 960 is 4 times the resolution of VGA so it would have excellent DOS
 graphics.

 I think a clam-shell design with a 1280 x 960 BW e-reader type display
 would be my choice.

 Killer keyboard is a must!

 It should have USB 3 and SD slots, 3 AAA batteries NOT AA this is the 21
 century.

 Perhaps we could also add a slot for a replaceable Lithium-Polymer flat
 pack like a cell phone.

 The charger circuit should auto detect the AAA batteries and if it senses
 rechargeable, it could trickle charge 3 AAA from a USB charging cable (5
 volts) with 4 batteries it wouldn't work.

 With AAAs it would be thin enough to resemble a net book. Clam shell would
 protect the screen.

 WiFi and Bluetooth are battery killers, and should have an auto off in
 BIOS to turn them off when the unit is unplugged.


 Steve Ranft

 Savage, MN


 From: jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be
 To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
 Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:08 +
 Subject: Re: [M100] $9 Computer

 I'm coming back to the dream we sometimes share: re-building the Model T with 
 current technology.

 3-D printing gives us the opportunity to (re-)design the case.

 Cheap computers, like the one below, or a RasPi, could provide the heart. 
 Autoboot an emulation! Does VirtualT on Linux exist yet?

 Apparently, the type of display of the Model T 240x64 is still made.
 Eg. from the page 
 http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/240x64-graphic-lcd-display-module.html ... 
 take your pick!
 The following stands out (size, price, colour, ...) 
 http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/monochrome-STN-graphic-240x64-lcd-display_60110813146.html

 All we need to find is a keyboard. No numpad! and how to connect the 
 arrow-keys ?

 And money, of course... Crowdfunding ?

 Ah, I can dream, can't I ?

 Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus
 Jan-80 
 @ work( = = )
 --.ooo--(_)--ooo.---

 -Original Message-
 From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com 
 m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Hiraghm
 Sent: dinsdag 12 mei 2015 18:29
 To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
 Subject: [M100] $9 Computer

 ZDnet had this article on this tiny successor (cousin?) to the Raspberry PI.
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Re: [M100] DISK+ ROM but no floppy for PC side

[Lee Kelley]

I have a disk+ ROM and a 5.25 floppy but the floppy is for a pre ms-dos
tandy computer.

On Friday, May 1, 2015, Stephen Adolph twospru...@gmail.com wrote:
 it isn't clear to me what the target is for disk+.
 I guess if disk+ could target TPDD then it must be compatible with all
those choices?


 On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Willard Goosey goo...@virgo.sdc.org
wrote:

 What is there to say about DeskLink?  It runs on DOS and it works.
 Willard
 Sent from Samsung tablet


  Original message 
 From Kurt McCullum kurt.mccul...@att.net
 Date: 04/30/2015 10:13 PM (GMT-07:00)
 To Model 100 Discussion m100@lists.bitchin100.com
 Subject Re: [M100] DISK+ ROM but no floppy for PC side


 Two Windows TPDD emulators
 LaddieAlpha Tried and true TPDD emulator. Very stable.
 mComm A TPDD emulator  with Sardine support which also has a TELCOM mode.

 DOS TPDD Emulators
 DeskLink I have never used this so I can't say much.

 I have not used Disk+ but I'm sure somebody will ask you for a ROM dump
if Disk+ ends up working for you.

 Kurt

 On 4/30/2015 6:22 PM, Steven Ranft wrote:

 I KNEW I would have a dire need for this groups some day.  I just bought
my 4th Model T.
 I am new to these wonderful machines, and need to spend a LOT of time
searching for answers.
 This latest machine came with and Option ROM called Disk+.  I LOOKS like
it says Disk4, but that's another story.
 I seems it should make file transfers to my PC easier... But I don't
have the program for the PC end of the equation.
 I had been searching just trying to figure out what a Disk4 (Disk+) ROM
did. After a while I found some articles in old
 PORTABLE 100 magazines, I found an ad that explained the function of the
ROM.  I figured out I needed to run : call63012
 Now I am hunting for the program for the DOS side of the equation. I
have a TPDD and have QModem and the cable to run them.
 Can anyone direct me to a copy please?
 Thanks,
 Steve Ranft
 Savage, MN
 New Model T enthusiast!



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family*  Arther P. Jacobs