Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Hi Dónal, You have my permission to use any of my text, and you can also link to the discussions here using the Mail Archive site. This post doesn't cover the other issue about not being able to interact with and check/uncheck items in the tables on the Java Preferences tabs. As Paula also reported, VoiceOver announces empty table. I really want to emphasize that university and college students who are using Blackboard are likely to have to use the Java Preferences utility when certificates expire or need to be fixed, so if Apple wants to continue maintaining its presence in the field of higher education, and also support accessibility there, this has to be fixed. It's another one of those items that was reported to them previously, but is becoming more of an issue. Thanks, Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Gordon/ Esther: I'm in the process of filing a bug, however I'd like permission to use some of Esther's superb text. I won't comment here on anything relating to mountain lion; just to say that all that glisters is not gold. Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Esther Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:40, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver doesn't see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't show up in item chooser menu, and you can't use it, or any of the other normal ways to navigate to them and select them. I've posted a complete solution for Paula on how to use Mouse Keys to navigate to any of the tabs and select them, because you can move vertically down from the Java Preferences heading in the title bar with Mouse Keys and VoiceOver will tell you when you have moved over the Network tab if you've set the verbosity to speak items under the mouse cursor by checking that box in the announcements tab under VoiceOver Utility. Then you can start moving horizontally with Mouse Keys either to the left or right to navigate to the other tabs. It's just that it takes a lot of key presses to move this way -- I think about 32 presses of the k key to move down to the edge of the tabs, and about 75 key presses to mov e across any tab horizontally. It was only about 10 presses of the u key to move left to the Security tab if you moved down from the heading, but it would take another 75 or so to move to the edge of the General tab in order to click it, which you can do by pressing the i key. This will work every time and go directly to the control you want, but typing out the explanation of how to set up Mouse Keys and mapping out the number of key presses takes longer than just moving your cursor with your finger on the Trackpad, guided by the edge, if you only need to get to one of the tabs. Incidentally, the VoiceOver reporting behavior when I navigate onto the tab group with Mouse Keys also tells me there's an accessibility issue with the setup. I shouldn't hear the tab reported until I'm directly over it, but somehow, as I move down towards the tab area, VoiceOver starts reporting the currently selected tab group, and only identifies the individual tab names, with radio button appended, once I am directly over those tabs. It's as though the currently selected tab blots out the tab grouping selection, which is indeed how it appears from the item chooser menu behavior -- only the currently selected tab, whichever one it is, is visible to VoiceOver. If any list members are working as developers with the Mountain Lion gold master, please check the behavior of Java Preferences! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: crash plan questions, and some issues with said software
Here is what happens when I try and do the actions w vo on. it's a screen cast so those with some vision might take a bit of pleasure out of it. lol! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/issues_with_crash_plan.mov As you can see there are some issues w the app. Take care all and be blessed. On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: It worked fine here Sarah On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:43, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually that didn't work. I had to turn off vo and then click it with the mouse. But you are supposed to be able to change settings like bandwidth speed and priority according to the wonderfully written faq i read all of and practically memorized. Except the settings part is no ware in the app. And now when i woke up this morning i got Cache: Queued in the status window. It's been like that for who knows how long. I hope it's not going to stay that way all day. There is one major bug when you want to set up a folder to back up what ever you want to back up. I have mine on an external 2 tb drive which is more then enough space. When you want to select a folder, for some reason vo down arrow selects multiple rows. I had to hit down arrow which did not speak then hit vo f6 to see what folder i was on. We'll see if the folder back up works. As of now and starting about an hour ago it says waiting for back up. All of this worked until i went to bed last night so i really can't say what happened. Thank goodness i'm on the unlimited trial for now anyways. I was thinking of getting this service but as of now since i had all of these problems when i got up, i'm not so sure. All in all the software looks pretty good. It's the server end i'm worried about. Looking at the logs i see no reason why i should have seen that since who knows when lol! hopefully the software will be improved over time. It's already there, but it needs just a tad more work. Take care all and be blessed. On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Click the crashPlan central link with the mouse or VO+Shift+Space. Then the tabs appear. HTH Gordon You can let your friends use part of your backup plan if you wish. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:48, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm beginning to like the crash plan interface, and the price. especially since I only need 1 computer lol! but I have a question. How do I access the tab for cloud and over view and stuff again I can't see how i accessed it before. I'm using what ever the new version is. Also what is this let friends back up to you thing? sounds odd. Over all I love the interface on OSx. and am considering signing up for the 1 computer deal since I will be the only one using it. lol! Take care and thanks for who ever recommended it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please
Re: My temperamental iPhone!
This used to happen to me, quite frequently, especially after having the phone on a music dock, then taking it off. Hasn't happened under ios 5.1.1, though. My solution was to call the phone from another line, and raise the volume while the call was live. Sometimes that meant pressing the home button, so that the call screen was not in the foreground. There is a rotor option for volume, but difficult to use that when VO is not speaking. Actually, I had not thought about this problem for a while, but have not experienced it on my 4s. It used to happen when I was using a 4, though. Don't know if the problem went away, or if a hardware or software upgrade fixed it. Glad to know you got it working,for now. Diane - Original Message - From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: My temperamental iPhone! Hi all, this is very bizarre. Here are several scenarios: 1. voiceover is turned on. no sound whatsoever from the phone. No voice, no background beeps; nothing. 2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly. 3. voiceover is turned off. Phone behaves perfectly. I am confused. very very very confused! help! cheers :) Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
How to use a remote disk drive?
Hello Listers, I've seen several references to people using a remote disc drive on another Mac with their Mac Book Air or Mini. And, this will be used more often with the new mac Book Pro that has no CD drive. Can someone familiar with this process describe the steps needed? In my case I have a mini and a mac book. I will also eventually have another mac and it would be helpful to be able to leave the superdrive connected to one computer or just use the one on the mac book for all the computers. Thanks for your tips. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: training
I had an excellent training experience when I took a series of Pages lessons via Skype with Anne Archie Robertson. You can find more information about their education services at: http://cecimac.org/education.htm HTH, Bryan On Jul 24, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Rob Murthwaite wrote: I am looking for some, competent, training on lion using voiceover. Any suggestions? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iA Writer writing app for iPad and iPhone updates
Hello Mary, • It sounds, from your description of the IA writer app, that you are actually using the iPad to type texts. I've been using an Apple bt keyboard to accomplish this if I have to write anything of length, because I find it so much faster to type that way without having to wait for vo feedback for each letter typed. So I'm curious, as I assume you're not using a bt keyboard in conjunction with this app, as moving your hands from the keyboard to the iPad would be inefficient, and you have all the access to keys or key combinations on the external keyboard that this app supplies. I get the convenience factor of not having to have two pieces of gear if you use this app. Just wondering about the efficiency hit. For any extensive text inputting on the iPad I use a Bluetooth keyboard. And I generally use the Apple keyboard because I touch type and also make use of all the standard shortcut keys for editing and selecting. However, I don't always carry along a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPad, and I really like the fact that you can make editing corrections and modifications with the iA Writer app. So, for example, if needed to excerpt part of a document that I placed in my Dropbox, make a few modifications, and send it in a mail message, it's fairly easy to do this in the iA Writer app without a keyboard. • Also, I have an iPad 1, so if you're on the newer model, perhaps there is less lag between touching letters and vo announcement? The iPad 1 definitely shows more lag in terms of keyboard responsiveness than with the iPad 2 if I'm running VoiceOver and also if I have other apps in the App Switcher. I also have to clear the Safari cache out in some instances to see better performance -- I think Emrah mentioned this about the iPad on this list quite a while ago, and I found this to be true in my experience. I recently received the TouchFire keyboard for the iPad. I haven't had much opportunity to play with it, as recently there seem to have been lots of other distractions *smile*. The TouchFire keyboard is a Kickstarter project to design a very lightweight keyboard that rests on top of the iPad and that can be carried/held against the back of the magnetic smart covers that are used with the iPad 2 and 3, and folded out of the way when you don't want the keyboard between you and the screen. The keyboard is a thin, molded silicon overlay that fits over the bottom part of the iPad screen, and only weighs a couple of ounces. It's held in place magnetically on the iPad 2 and 3. Although it can be used with the first generation iPad, it doesn't automatically lock into the correct position with the magnetic attachment -- it has to be overlaid on the screen -- so I'm not sure how easily its position could be tweaked by a blind user. The f and j keys are flagged, and you can rest your fingers on the keys without activating the screen/keys. Even though the lag when typing on later model iPads is less than for the first generation iPad, I may have to turn VoiceOver off when I type to get real speed out of this, because you can type faster than the touch typing mode of VoiceOver can respond. It's also a bit odd in sensation, because the new keyboards feel slightly sticky. We've been told that's because they come out of the factory absolutely new, and as soon as a bit of dust of wear gets on the silcone, the stickiness will go away. Also, the keys have square outlines, but the surface isn't flat. Each key has four small indentations that support the key against the iPad screen. You can swipe through the bottom of the silicon (where the lock screen control is in landscape mode, which is below where the bottom row of keys would appear) and have the gesture work. I know that the Touchfire is supposed to support other language keyboards, including French, but I find that the position of the right hand keys (o, p, l, m) on the French keyboard is slightly off from the position of the same keys on the English input keyboard that the Touchfire matches. (I asked someone to look at this to check, and there is a slight offset with the virtual keys for those letters being centered slightly to the left of the corresponding keys on the English input keyboard. I'm not sure how I like this yet, because I've been doing other things than just trying to type with it. You can read more about this keyboard in a review by the Gadgeteer: • Touchfire Screen-Top Keyboard for iPad Review by Julie on July 11, 2012: http://the-gadgeteer.com/2012/07/11/touchfire-screen-top-keyboard-for-ipad-review/ This was $45 from Kickstarter, including shipment. HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html
Re: training
Hello, Rob, You will find much information and valuable training resources here: http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/ On Jul 24, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Rob Murthwaite wrote: Hi, I am relatively new to Macs having used Windows and Jaws for many years. My employer has only recently updated from snowleopard to lion and this has thrown me into a little confusion. I am looking for some, competent, training on lion using voiceover. Any suggestions? Rob Murthwaite --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Marcy marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Couldn't agree with you more Esther. As someone who's in the field of higher ed (from the other side I'll grant you) I recognise fully the importance. Mind you, why any institution would inflict blackboard on its staff/student cohort is beyond me. It was, is now and forever shall be…. … hideous! On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:44, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Dónal, You have my permission to use any of my text, and you can also link to the discussions here using the Mail Archive site. This post doesn't cover the other issue about not being able to interact with and check/uncheck items in the tables on the Java Preferences tabs. As Paula also reported, VoiceOver announces empty table. I really want to emphasize that university and college students who are using Blackboard are likely to have to use the Java Preferences utility when certificates expire or need to be fixed, so if Apple wants to continue maintaining its presence in the field of higher education, and also support accessibility there, this has to be fixed. It's another one of those items that was reported to them previously, but is becoming more of an issue. Thanks, Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Gordon/ Esther: I'm in the process of filing a bug, however I'd like permission to use some of Esther's superb text. I won't comment here on anything relating to mountain lion; just to say that all that glisters is not gold. Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Esther Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:40, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver doesn't see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't show up in item chooser menu, and you can't use it, or any of the other normal ways to navigate to them and select them. I've posted a complete solution for Paula on how to use Mouse Keys to navigate to any of the tabs and select them, because you can move vertically down from the Java Preferences heading in the title bar with Mouse Keys and VoiceOver will tell you when you have moved over the Network tab if you've set the verbosity to speak items under the mouse cursor by checking that box in the announcements tab under VoiceOver Utility. Then you can start moving horizontally with Mouse Keys either to the left or right to navigate to the other tabs. It's just that it takes a lot of key presses to move this way -- I think about 32 presses of the k key to move down to the edge of the tabs, and about 75 key presses to mov e across any tab horizontally. It was only about 10 presses of the u key to move left to the Security tab if you moved down from the heading, but it would take another 75 or so to move to the edge of the General tab in order to click it, which you can do by pressing the i key. This will work every time and go directly to the control you want, but typing out the explanation of how to set up Mouse Keys and mapping out the number of key presses takes longer than just moving your cursor with your finger on the Trackpad, guided by the edge, if you only need to get to one of the tabs. Incidentally, the VoiceOver reporting behavior when I navigate onto the tab group with Mouse Keys also tells me there's an accessibility issue with the setup. I shouldn't hear the tab reported until I'm directly over it, but somehow, as I move down towards the tab area, VoiceOver starts reporting the currently selected tab group, and only identifies the individual tab names, with radio button appended, once I am directly over those tabs. It's as though the currently selected tab blots out the tab grouping selection, which is indeed how it appears from the item chooser menu behavior -- only the currently selected tab, whichever one it is, is visible to VoiceOver. If any list members are working as developers with the Mountain Lion gold master, please check the behavior of Java Preferences! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac
Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Esther I forgot to ask, do you have the bug number for the one you submitted last year? On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:44, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Dónal, You have my permission to use any of my text, and you can also link to the discussions here using the Mail Archive site. This post doesn't cover the other issue about not being able to interact with and check/uncheck items in the tables on the Java Preferences tabs. As Paula also reported, VoiceOver announces empty table. I really want to emphasize that university and college students who are using Blackboard are likely to have to use the Java Preferences utility when certificates expire or need to be fixed, so if Apple wants to continue maintaining its presence in the field of higher education, and also support accessibility there, this has to be fixed. It's another one of those items that was reported to them previously, but is becoming more of an issue. Thanks, Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Gordon/ Esther: I'm in the process of filing a bug, however I'd like permission to use some of Esther's superb text. I won't comment here on anything relating to mountain lion; just to say that all that glisters is not gold. Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Esther Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:40, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver doesn't see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't show up in item chooser menu, and you can't use it, or any of the other normal ways to navigate to them and select them. I've posted a complete solution for Paula on how to use Mouse Keys to navigate to any of the tabs and select them, because you can move vertically down from the Java Preferences heading in the title bar with Mouse Keys and VoiceOver will tell you when you have moved over the Network tab if you've set the verbosity to speak items under the mouse cursor by checking that box in the announcements tab under VoiceOver Utility. Then you can start moving horizontally with Mouse Keys either to the left or right to navigate to the other tabs. It's just that it takes a lot of key presses to move this way -- I think about 32 presses of the k key to move down to the edge of the tabs, and about 75 key presses to mov e across any tab horizontally. It was only about 10 presses of the u key to move left to the Security tab if you moved down from the heading, but it would take another 75 or so to move to the edge of the General tab in order to click it, which you can do by pressing the i key. This will work every time and go directly to the control you want, but typing out the explanation of how to set up Mouse Keys and mapping out the number of key presses takes longer than just moving your cursor with your finger on the Trackpad, guided by the edge, if you only need to get to one of the tabs. Incidentally, the VoiceOver reporting behavior when I navigate onto the tab group with Mouse Keys also tells me there's an accessibility issue with the setup. I shouldn't hear the tab reported until I'm directly over it, but somehow, as I move down towards the tab area, VoiceOver starts reporting the currently selected tab group, and only identifies the individual tab names, with radio button appended, once I am directly over those tabs. It's as though the currently selected tab blots out the tab grouping selection, which is indeed how it appears from the item chooser menu behavior -- only the currently selected tab, whichever one it is, is visible to VoiceOver. If any list members are working as developers with the Mountain Lion gold master, please check the behavior of Java Preferences! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web
how do I expand the gmail folder in mail?
Hi all, I've finally done it! I've joined the Mac world! While I'm finding a lot of help and for the most part, finding a lot of tasks easy to do, and in some cases, quicker than elsewhere, one thing eludes me at this time. How do I expand an item in the mail boxes window? I've set my gmail up as imap as I do it both here and on my phone. I have some emails in the personal folder I want/need to get to from time to time. Thanks in advance. Shaun --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mac and daisy?
Bard does not have a way to play books on the computer. there is an RFBD reader but I have not had good luck with even getting it from the website. there are other apps but since I don't ever use my computer to play daisy I just have not bothered to learn about them. I play daisy stuff like RFBD on my iPhone. Take care all. On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:20 PM, josh gregory wrote: Hi, is there a way that mac can play daisy books, like from BARD? Thanks! -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Hi Dónal, No, sorry, this is from memory. It might have been a little over a year ago that I reported the problems with Java Preferences. And not all universities use Blackboard, but some of the alternatives also have accessibility issues. Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Esther I forgot to ask, do you have the bug number for the one you submitted last year? On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:44, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Dónal, You have my permission to use any of my text, and you can also link to the discussions here using the Mail Archive site. This post doesn't cover the other issue about not being able to interact with and check/uncheck items in the tables on the Java Preferences tabs. As Paula also reported, VoiceOver announces empty table. I really want to emphasize that university and college students who are using Blackboard are likely to have to use the Java Preferences utility when certificates expire or need to be fixed, so if Apple wants to continue maintaining its presence in the field of higher education, and also support accessibility there, this has to be fixed. It's another one of those items that was reported to them previously, but is becoming more of an issue. Thanks, Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Gordon/ Esther: I'm in the process of filing a bug, however I'd like permission to use some of Esther's superb text. I won't comment here on anything relating to mountain lion; just to say that all that glisters is not gold. Dónal --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
yes you're right there. We use moodle which isn't quite as bad as blackboard but stil has issues. Not to worry about the bug ID. I was just going to put it in one of the notes. Thanks Esther. Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 21:56, mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Dónal, No, sorry, this is from memory. It might have been a little over a year ago that I reported the problems with Java Preferences. And not all universities use Blackboard, but some of the alternatives also have accessibility issues. Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Esther I forgot to ask, do you have the bug number for the one you submitted last year? On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:44, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Dónal, You have my permission to use any of my text, and you can also link to the discussions here using the Mail Archive site. This post doesn't cover the other issue about not being able to interact with and check/uncheck items in the tables on the Java Preferences tabs. As Paula also reported, VoiceOver announces empty table. I really want to emphasize that university and college students who are using Blackboard are likely to have to use the Java Preferences utility when certificates expire or need to be fixed, so if Apple wants to continue maintaining its presence in the field of higher education, and also support accessibility there, this has to be fixed. It's another one of those items that was reported to them previously, but is becoming more of an issue. Thanks, Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Gordon/ Esther: I'm in the process of filing a bug, however I'd like permission to use some of Esther's superb text. I won't comment here on anything relating to mountain lion; just to say that all that glisters is not gold. Dónal --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Adobi Editions
Hi folks. OK, does anyone know of an accessible way to download a trial version of Adobi Editions for the Mac? I can't find a link to actually download it to try it out. Any help would be appreciated. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: how do I expand the gmail folder in mail?
Generally expanding anything in Mail, tree views, or message conversation threads, is simply a question of pressing the right cursor key. This does not always work if you have quick nav on, in which case I find that using option right does the trick. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: 24 July 2012 22:17 To: Mac Access Subject: how do I expand the gmail folder in mail? Hi all, I've finally done it! I've joined the Mac world! While I'm finding a lot of help and for the most part, finding a lot of tasks easy to do, and in some cases, quicker than elsewhere, one thing eludes me at this time. How do I expand an item in the mail boxes window? I've set my gmail up as imap as I do it both here and on my phone. I have some emails in the personal folder I want/need to get to from time to time. Thanks in advance. Shaun --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
correction to my last message
Sorry folks. That was Adobe Audition I need a link for. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: how do I expand the gmail folder in mail?
For me vo back slash expands and collapses things as well as the right arrow. I use the vo trick as my hands are always in that position. Take care. On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:57 PM, David Griffith wrote: Generally expanding anything in Mail, tree views, or message conversation threads, is simply a question of pressing the right cursor key. This does not always work if you have quick nav on, in which case I find that using option right does the trick. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: 24 July 2012 22:17 To: Mac Access Subject: how do I expand the gmail folder in mail? Hi all, I've finally done it! I've joined the Mac world! While I'm finding a lot of help and for the most part, finding a lot of tasks easy to do, and in some cases, quicker than elsewhere, one thing eludes me at this time. How do I expand an item in the mail boxes window? I've set my gmail up as imap as I do it both here and on my phone. I have some emails in the personal folder I want/need to get to from time to time. Thanks in advance. Shaun --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: correction to my last message
Hi John, A Google search brought up this link for the free trial download of Adobe Audition: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=audition Cheers, Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:00 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: Sorry folks. That was Adobe Audition I need a link for. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: New Facility Available To Members
Hi, I can't connect to the server to access the facility. Thanks, Courtney On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: http://files.mac-access.net?login=mac-access;mac-access --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: New Facility Available To Members
I believe both the user name and password are mac-access. HTH T.J. On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Moop Curran wrote: Hi, I can't connect to the server to access the facility. Thanks, Courtney On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: http://files.mac-access.net?login=mac-access;mac-access --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: correction to my last message
Hi Esther, The problem is there must be Flash involved because there doesn't seem to be an actual download link for it, unless I am missing it. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Esther Hu mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi John, A Google search brought up this link for the free trial download of Adobe Audition: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=audition Cheers, Esther On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:00 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: Sorry folks. That was Adobe Audition I need a link for. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: how do I expand the gmail folder in mail?
Just tried it and I did not find it worked for expanding this message thread. I just got an error beep. Turning on voiceover keyboard help reported toggle expand disclosure on and off. I think this is slightly different? It may be that I am getting a different result as I have customised VO verbosity so mail would not say disclosure triangle on messages as this was driving me mad. David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com On 25 Jul 2012, at 00:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: For me vo back slash expands and collapses things as well as the right arrow. I use the vo trick as my hands are always in that position. Take care. On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:57 PM, David Griffith wrote: Generally expanding anything in Mail, tree views, or message conversation threads, is simply a question of pressing the right cursor key. This does not always work if you have quick nav on, in which case I find that using option right does the trick. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: 24 July 2012 22:17 To: Mac Access Subject: how do I expand the gmail folder in mail? Hi all, I've finally done it! I've joined the Mac world! While I'm finding a lot of help and for the most part, finding a lot of tasks easy to do, and in some cases, quicker than elsewhere, one thing eludes me at this time. How do I expand an item in the mail boxes window? I've set my gmail up as imap as I do it both here and on my phone. I have some emails in the personal folder I want/need to get to from time to time. Thanks in advance. Shaun --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iPhone not saying the time
Swipe left to get to it, perhaps? On 7/24/12, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: Hi, I have an iPhone 4, with the latest update, well, within a month or two anyway. The problem is that VoiceOver used to say the time when I pressed the lock button, and now it only says: slide to unlock * How do I get the time feature back? I don't recall making changes to the settings. Also, it may not be related, but last night while I was streaming some radio on my walk, I had a call, and the audio went out after the call. The volume was all the way down, so I quickly figured that out and just raised the volume, but a phone call should not lower the VoiceOver volume. But as I mentioned, that may be unrelated to the time problem, which is what concerns me right now. Thanks for any help. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: More on Mouse keys
There is a slight drawback that I have found in having Mouse keys in the background when Num pad commander is on. It appears that num pad commander does not retain command of the 5 key. You will therefore lose focus when you think you are using 5 to deliver the of vo space you will in fact be delivering a mouse click. The only way around this I have found is to turn mouse keys off BY pressing the option key 5 times until VO announces mouse keys off. Then you can recommence num pad commander as normal. Still usable, but not so convenient. David Griffith David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com On 25 Jul 2012, at 01:48, David Griffith wrote: I have been experimenting with Mousekeys and I am very pleased with the result. I thought I was not able to use Mousekeys as I use NumPad commander. However whilst NumPad commander does disable Mouse Keys, if you turn NumPad commander off temporarily you will instantly regain access to Mouse keys.. What I did was the following. I went to Universal Access preferences and turned Mouse Keys on under the Mouse / Trackpad tab. Mouse Keys will not work whilst you have Num Pad commander on. but If you press VO Clear to turn NumPad commander off you will gain instant access to mouse keys. I found the movement of the mouse pointer rather slow so I will probably speed this up. Turn num pad commander on again with VO clear once you are finished with Mouse keys. This is very useful as I find control with the trackpad extremely difficult. David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
time not being announced
Hi All, On the time not being spoken when I press the lock button, which I wrote in about earlier; I have not cleared my app switcher in about 3 or 4 weeks, so I did that, and that was not fixing it, so I did the reset with pressing the lock button 5 times, and it booted back and now it says the time as it should, when I press the lock switch. Also, I don't know if it fixed the problem of the volume going down when listening to Pandora when I get a phone call, I'll post on that if I get a call again while listening to music. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Finder Busy Complex question
Hello all, The situation: Mac Mini running 10.6.8; 8 gigs ram and rather proficient Mac user. The computer ran fine until a couple months ago when the user abruptly disconnected the monitor which has not been used since. From that time, the computer has run very sluggishly anytime you activate any finder windows; run applications; or in general, attempt to use the machine. Today, the user backed the system up using Carbon Copy Cloner to an external drive. Upon completion of said backup, the user attempted to boot from the drive to test its bootability. The user discovered that not only did it boot wel, but that it was possible to navigate in finder windows without any kind of delay. Is there anyone who can shed any light on this scenario? At first the user believed it might be the missing monitor, and I mentioned this as a possibility, as I recall there have been some discussions on the necessity (or not) of the connection to a monitor for the mini to run smoothly. Yet, if this were the problem, what would booting from an external rather than the internal have anything to do with monitors (or lack thereof) as to make it usable in a normal way when booted from the external while still unusable when booted from the internal if there were no monitor present during either booting? Any and all suggestions and insights would be much appreciated. Basically, the user is willing to do a clean install if that is truly necessary, but of course would rather it weren't. Someone please advise. Thank you, T.J. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: how do I expand the gmail folder in mail?
No there is a bug wherein right and left arrow will not all the time expand and collapse threads. A reboot of vo or mail, or both helps. Take care. On Jul 24, 2012, at 6:12 PM, David Griffith wrote: Just tried it and I did not find it worked for expanding this message thread. I just got an error beep. Turning on voiceover keyboard help reported toggle expand disclosure on and off. I think this is slightly different? It may be that I am getting a different result as I have customised VO verbosity so mail would not say disclosure triangle on messages as this was driving me mad. David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com On 25 Jul 2012, at 00:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: For me vo back slash expands and collapses things as well as the right arrow. I use the vo trick as my hands are always in that position. Take care. On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:57 PM, David Griffith wrote: Generally expanding anything in Mail, tree views, or message conversation threads, is simply a question of pressing the right cursor key. This does not always work if you have quick nav on, in which case I find that using option right does the trick. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: 24 July 2012 22:17 To: Mac Access Subject: how do I expand the gmail folder in mail? Hi all, I've finally done it! I've joined the Mac world! While I'm finding a lot of help and for the most part, finding a lot of tasks easy to do, and in some cases, quicker than elsewhere, one thing eludes me at this time. How do I expand an item in the mail boxes window? I've set my gmail up as imap as I do it both here and on my phone. I have some emails in the personal folder I want/need to get to from time to time. Thanks in advance. Shaun --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac
RE: training
Hi Rob and welcome. Rob is a great personal and valuable friend of mine and I am sure he will do well here. I and glad you have joined us on this list. There are lots of helpful people who will make life easier for you in Mac Land, certainly a lot more expert than me. I think there is some links to Training resources on the main Mac-Access site and I am sure that there are many trainers who could help. Whilst I have never used the service I know that Ann Robinson, who is also a member of this list, has been highly recommended by list members before. I do not have contact details though. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Rob Murthwaite Sent: 24 July 2012 11:29 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: training Hi, I am relatively new to Macs having used Windows and Jaws for many years. My employer has only recently updated from snowleopard to lion and this has thrown me into a little confusion. I am looking for some, competent, training on lion using voiceover. Any suggestions? Rob Murthwaite --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: training
Hi robb and welcome to the list. I have had a mac since september last year and i'm loving it a lot. I Pretty much taught myself the Mac after a few basic instructions on how to navigate around. This list was also very helpful to me when I first got my mac and still is now. You will get a lot of useful tips on this lest and there are a lot of people who will only be to happy to help. Ian McNamara --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Rumours
Thats true. But still I get what Gordon's saying, :) Yeah they should totally do that!! :) On 7/23/12, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Gordon, Nothing to speculate, as Apple lays it bare here: http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html All 200+ features you will find in Apple's new OS listed by Apple themselves. Chris On 23 Jul 2012, at 17:28, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Chris yes, I know that is true. All the same, we've been told very clearly that we aren't allowed to discuss, promote the discussion of or speculation regarding Mountain Lion until it is released. Apple is very very tight now on who knows what and why. I know this sounds stupid but there it is. I don't particularly want Mac Access to get a bad name with Apple because we permit that sort of speculation. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 01:14, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: All 200+ features are listed on Apple's website and have been there for some time. You can also get other tit bits from www.appleinsider.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
My temperamental iPhone!
Hi all, this is very bizarre. Here are several scenarios: 1. voiceover is turned on. no sound whatsoever from the phone. No voice, no background beeps; nothing. 2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly. 3. voiceover is turned off. Phone behaves perfectly. I am confused. very very very confused! help! cheers :) Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
how i use a braille display
hi to all i have a humanware brailliant here where can i find please, a list of commands to operate it with an iphone and or ipad? many thanks will --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: how i use a braille display
Will -- Which exact model do you have and what results did you get when you searched the web? I used google to search for the words apple.com humanware brailliant and one of the first hits was Apple's own document titled Humanware Brailliant: Device keys for VoiceOver navigation which includes a table that seems to cover a lot of IOS commands for this device. On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:05 AM, william lomas wrote: hi to all i have a humanware brailliant here where can i find please, a list of commands to operate it with an iphone and or ipad? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
skim with voiceover.
Hi all, well I'm still looking for a decent PDF reader on the mac. Sadly Skim still isn't doing it for me. In essence, it works well enough. However I find I get very stilted reading. for example I might get a sentence like: s ee f igure 1. So I reckon that given some of you are using it pretty successfully there must be a reason; some setting or config option I've set differently. Would anyone mind sharing how they have the display, pdf and other relevant options set? Ar there any special tweaks which I need to make? Sincere thanks for any help I really don't want to have to crank up my windows machine just to read a PDF. DónalDónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bento4 Mac
Hello Bryan On 23 Jul 2012, at 02:49, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: • I'm running the latest Bento version (4.1.1) under Lion 10.7.4 on a 2011 MBA, and I also don't recall having the problem with any of the previous 4.x versions. Yes, we're running that version of Bento but our OS is slightly different. 1. Can you tell if it's trying to open any particular database upon launch? Perhhaps there's a corruption issue with that particular database. I think you can try launching the app while holding down the Option key if you want to change the startup default database. No. It hasn't ever been used on this machine before. So there should be no database issues. • 2. Is it a trial version whose time has expired? Some Apps will pop a reminder dialog over top of the main window to nag you for payment. No, it's one which we bought and downloaded from the FileMaker online store. 3. Is it set to display database items in grid view? Grid view is not accessible to VO, so I'd suggest using either table view (command+1) or Form view (command+4). As I say we cannot change the views with VoiceOver running but I will check to see what it's set too by default. Thanks for your input. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: The new iPad.
Hello Sadam On 23 Jul 2012, at 11:31, Sadam Ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote: • What are the new features in the new iPad apart from the retina display? I believe that the only difference between iPad 2 and iPad 3 is the resolution of the camera. I think they both have the same technical specifications other than that. I am aware that some on list have replied to you with reference to iOS6. However, I won't do that because it's against Apple's code of conduct to speculate; regardless of the rumour mill. Yes, I know that possibly there may be contributions to that rumour mill from Apple themselves and yes, I do agree that sometimes their weird logic and double standards are difficult to fathom.. Nevertheless, you'll find that it is future-proof so in all honesty my advice would be stick with what you have for the time being. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: skim with voiceover.
I also get that but I really don't' know why I am. I got on on a quick start I was reading and it drove me up the wall. Any thoughts on this one? On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, well I'm still looking for a decent PDF reader on the mac. Sadly Skim still isn't doing it for me. In essence, it works well enough. However I find I get very stilted reading. for example I might get a sentence like: s ee f igure 1. So I reckon that given some of you are using it pretty successfully there must be a reason; some setting or config option I've set differently. Would anyone mind sharing how they have the display, pdf and other relevant options set? Ar there any special tweaks which I need to make? Sincere thanks for any help I really don't want to have to crank up my windows machine just to read a PDF. DónalDónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: skim with voiceover.
I've found Sarah that if you interact and turn on the keyboard lock and read line by line the text is fine. Not going to do that for a 500 page book though. :) On 24 Jul 2012, at 17:10, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I also get that but I really don't' know why I am. I got on on a quick start I was reading and it drove me up the wall. Any thoughts on this one? On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, well I'm still looking for a decent PDF reader on the mac. Sadly Skim still isn't doing it for me. In essence, it works well enough. However I find I get very stilted reading. for example I might get a sentence like: s ee f igure 1. So I reckon that given some of you are using it pretty successfully there must be a reason; some setting or config option I've set differently. Would anyone mind sharing how they have the display, pdf and other relevant options set? Ar there any special tweaks which I need to make? Sincere thanks for any help I really don't want to have to crank up my windows machine just to read a PDF. DónalDónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Merge Utility and VM Fusion
Eric --A few thoughts: 1. Regarding a utility named Merge -- Might you perhaps be referring to Apple's utility named Migration Assistant? If you really are using a program named Merge, could you provide some more details about it, such as where you found this utility, what it is supposed to do, what version you are running? 2. Did you completely power down the VM before beginning the process of moving it to the new mac? VMWare specifically warns against copying virtual machines that are in sleep, suspend or hibernation mode. 3. What model mac are you copying from / to? They will likely have different hardware components which means the VMs will likely require different device drivers, thus possibly requiring a re-run of the VM Tools utility on the new mac. 4. Did you use this Merge utility to move the VMWare Fusion Application from your old mac to the new? I'm referring to the Fusion application itself, not just the virtual machine. Perhaps you might try installing Fusion from scratch on the new machine and, if you are considering upgrading to version 4 as you mentioned, maybe don't even bother installing your current version, just go with the trial of version 4, which you can download from VMWare.com. It'll import your existing VMs and you'll be able to get a feel for the new version before deciding whether you want to upgrade. HTH, Bryan On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Merge was just the Apple program that brings everything from a old computer to a new one. I appreciate the info you gave. It sounds like it should have just worked. it was rather strange as when I tried to open the virtual machine VM Fusion would open and just say VM Fusion has no windows. I went to file and import but that didn't work either. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Take control books
Hello Timothy Thank you very kindly. Actually this might be a good time to mention for the benefit of those who contacted us yesterday about buying books that we have your details and we will be getting back to you very soon. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 13:10, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: Agreed. Bought two yesterday and it was a great experience. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: New Facility Available To Members
Hi Arthur, Carolin and all Just to settle this for keeps. The proper URL is: https://files.mac-access.net?login=mac-access:mac-access Lynne inadvertently missed of the crucial s in the prefix of the URL. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 14:31, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com wrote: tried that URL, and it says that Internet Explorer can't display the web page. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: New Facility Available To Members
Hi Esther The ; (semi-colon was wrong. It should be: https://files.mac-access.net?login=mac-access:mac-access That's a pretty standard URL. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 15:21, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: I think that the prefix should be https and not http. But I'm not sure that the automatic log in string with user name and password works for general logins. If you use: https://files.mac-access.net?login=mac-access;mac-access you're taken to the web site, but I don't think the login name with a hyphen will be automatically parsed. It works if you type mac-access (without the quotations) into the text fields for the login and password at the web page, but not if you pass it in with the link. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Profiles on iOS
Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: skim with voiceover.
I found the same thing as well. I'm not even going to do that for an 11 page quick start. lol! Over all it's a good program, but for that nasty quirk. take care all. On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: I've found Sarah that if you interact and turn on the keyboard lock and read line by line the text is fine. Not going to do that for a 500 page book though. :) On 24 Jul 2012, at 17:10, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I also get that but I really don't' know why I am. I got on on a quick start I was reading and it drove me up the wall. Any thoughts on this one? On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, well I'm still looking for a decent PDF reader on the mac. Sadly Skim still isn't doing it for me. In essence, it works well enough. However I find I get very stilted reading. for example I might get a sentence like: s ee f igure 1. So I reckon that given some of you are using it pretty successfully there must be a reason; some setting or config option I've set differently. Would anyone mind sharing how they have the display, pdf and other relevant options set? Ar there any special tweaks which I need to make? Sincere thanks for any help I really don't want to have to crank up my windows machine just to read a PDF. DónalDónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Profiles on iOS
Hi Gordon, I think you might want to investigate the restrictions, area of the settings app. This ought to do what you are looking for, or at least some of it. It was designed for parental controls, and includes such options as disabling the store, etc. Yours, Zack. On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: were
Hi Patricia To what does this refer? Sorry if I'm being dense. On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:53, Patricia Taylor zaylyiala...@talktalk.net wrote: were can I get this back up or dose iCloud have the same ? bye --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iA Writer writing app for iPad and iPhone updates
Hi Esther, It sounds, from your description of the IA writer app, that you are actually using the iPad to type texts. I've been using an Apple bt keyboard to accomplish this if I have to write anything of length, because I find it so much faster to type that way without having to wait for vo feedback for each letter typed. So I'm curious, as I assume you're not using a bt keyboard in conjunction with this app, as moving your hands from the keyboard to the iPad would be inefficient, and you have all the access to keys or key combinations on the external keyboard that this app supplies. I get the convenience factor of not having to have two pieces of gear if you use this app. Just wondering about the efficiency hit. Also, I have an iPad 1, so if you're on the newer model, perhaps there is less lag between touching letters and vo announcement? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Merge Utility and VM Fusion
Hi Brian, On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Eric --A few thoughts: 1. Regarding a utility named Merge -- Might you perhaps be referring to Apple's utility named Migration Assistant? If you really are using a program named Merge, could you provide some more details about it, such as where you found this utility, what it is supposed to do, what version you are running? Migration Assistant is what I used. Sorry for the name confusion. 2. Did you completely power down the VM before beginning the process of moving it to the new mac? VMWare specifically warns against copying virtual machines that are in sleep, suspend or hibernation mode. yes, it was completely shut down. 3. What model mac are you copying from / to? They will likely have different hardware components which means the VMs will likely require different device drivers, thus possibly requiring a re-run of the VM Tools utility on the new mac. old computer 2009 mac book new computer 2011 Mini When I try to start the VM it just says VM fusion has no windows. When I try to start the VM all the choices are dimmed. when I tried to import I did find a message that said the configuration file is corrupt. 4. Did you use this Merge utility to move the VMWare Fusion Application from your old mac to the new? I'm referring to the Fusion application itself, not just the virtual machine. Perhaps you might try installing Fusion from scratch on the new machine and, if you are considering upgrading to version 4 as you mentioned, maybe don't even bother installing your current version, just go with the trial of version 4, which you can download from VMWare.com. It'll import your existing VMs and you'll be able to get a feel for the new version before deciding whether you want to upgrade. Yes I moved it using migration Assistant I was hoping it would just work with version 3.1 for awhile as I am afraid to use up the darn jAWS keys I had tried some time ago to upgrade to VM fusion 4 and the VM did not work correctly that is JAWS didn't and I wasted several authorizations.. . the next time I upgrade I plan to just start from scratch with a new install of the VM 4 and win 7 and jaws. I may use this as a opportunity to do a updated podcast on the process. though it may take a long time as I expect i'll make many mistakes. But a updated walk through would probably be helpful to many mac users. Perhaps I'll just let the vM update to version 4 as it keeps asking me. and then from there do a completely new install. these tips and thoughts are very helpful and appreciated. eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Profiles on iOS
You might be able to use the iPhone configuration utility to do this. I don't use it in that fashion but from what i understand you can create specific profiles for specific things, for example to connect to a wifi network and all you do is email someone that profile and when they get to your destination. They just install said profile and away they go. You might be able to find it at http://Apple.Com/downloads Here's an article that explains what this tool does and how you might the able to benefit from it. http://www.macworld.com/article/143088/2009/10/carriersettings.html good luck. On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner to backup [was Re: were]
Hi Esther Thank you for the reminder. Since I came home from hospital I have sadly neglected our blog. This will now be at tented too so that the URL http://blog.maciosaccess.net works once again. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 17:10, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I'm guessing you are asking about Paul's post on using SuperDuper! to recover his frozen iMac. You can get SuperDuper! from ShirtPocket software: http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html The free trial download will let you clone your current disk. The paid version suppports additional features like scheduled backups Carbon Copy Cloner by Bombich software also lets you recover this way, and boot from your cloned disk in the event that your disk is completely trashed. It is donationware (free, but suggested that you leave a donation if you find it useful), and can be downloaded from: http://www.bombich.com/ No, iCloud does not back up your Mac. Lynne wrote a nice article about backing up your Mac that you can read on their blog: http://maciosaccessdotnet.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/mac-osx-system-backup/ This topic (backups) is also very well explained in the Take Control volume on Backing Up your Mac. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 23, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Patricia Taylor wrote: were can I get this back up or dose iCloud have the same ? bye Zaylyia --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Hi Esther Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:40, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver doesn't see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't show up in item chooser menu, and you can't use it, or any of the other normal ways to navigate to them and select them. I've posted a complete solution for Paula on how to use Mouse Keys to navigate to any of the tabs and select them, because you can move vertically down from the Java Preferences heading in the title bar with Mouse Keys and VoiceOver will tell you when you have moved over the Network tab if you've set the verbosity to speak items under the mouse cursor by checking that box in the announcements tab under VoiceOver Utility. Then you can start moving horizontally with Mouse Keys either to the left or right to navigate to the other tabs. It's just that it takes a lot of key presses to move this way -- I think about 32 presses of the k key to move down to the edge of the tabs, and about 75 key presses to mov e across any tab horizontally. It was only about 10 presses of the u key to move left to the Security tab if you moved down from the heading, but it would take another 75 or so to move to the edge of the General tab in order to click it, which you can do by pressing the i key. This will work every time and go directly to the control you want, but typing out the explanation of how to set up Mouse Keys and mapping out the number of key presses takes longer than just moving your cursor with your finger on the Trackpad, guided by the edge, if you only need to get to one of the tabs. Incidentally, the VoiceOver reporting behavior when I navigate onto the tab group with Mouse Keys also tells me there's an accessibility issue with the setup. I shouldn't hear the tab reported until I'm directly over it, but somehow, as I move down towards the tab area, VoiceOver starts reporting the currently selected tab group, and only identifies the individual tab names, with radio button appended, once I am directly over those tabs. It's as though the currently selected tab blots out the tab grouping selection, which is indeed how it appears from the item chooser menu behavior -- only the currently selected tab, whichever one it is, is visible to VoiceOver. If any list members are working as developers with the Mountain Lion gold master, please check the behavior of Java Preferences! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: crash plan questions
Click the crashPlan central link with the mouse or VO+Shift+Space. Then the tabs appear. HTH Gordon You can let your friends use part of your backup plan if you wish. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:48, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm beginning to like the crash plan interface, and the price. especially since I only need 1 computer lol! but I have a question. How do I access the tab for cloud and over view and stuff again I can't see how i accessed it before. I'm using what ever the new version is. Also what is this let friends back up to you thing? sounds odd. Over all I love the interface on OSx. and am considering signing up for the 1 computer deal since I will be the only one using it. lol! Take care and thanks for who ever recommended it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Gordon/ Esther: I'm in the process of filing a bug, however I'd like permission to use some of Esther's superb text. I won't comment here on anything relating to mountain lion; just to say that all that glisters is not gold. Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Esther Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:40, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver doesn't see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't show up in item chooser menu, and you can't use it, or any of the other normal ways to navigate to them and select them. I've posted a complete solution for Paula on how to use Mouse Keys to navigate to any of the tabs and select them, because you can move vertically down from the Java Preferences heading in the title bar with Mouse Keys and VoiceOver will tell you when you have moved over the Network tab if you've set the verbosity to speak items under the mouse cursor by checking that box in the announcements tab under VoiceOver Utility. Then you can start moving horizontally with Mouse Keys either to the left or right to navigate to the other tabs. It's just that it takes a lot of key presses to move this way -- I think about 32 presses of the k key to move down to the edge of the tabs, and about 75 key presses to mov e across any tab horizontally. It was only about 10 presses of the u key to move left to the Security tab if you moved down from the heading, but it would take another 75 or so to move to the edge of the General tab in order to click it, which you can do by pressing the i key. This will work every time and go directly to the control you want, but typing out the explanation of how to set up Mouse Keys and mapping out the number of key presses takes longer than just moving your cursor with your finger on the Trackpad, guided by the edge, if you only need to get to one of the tabs. Incidentally, the VoiceOver reporting behavior when I navigate onto the tab group with Mouse Keys also tells me there's an accessibility issue with the setup. I shouldn't hear the tab reported until I'm directly over it, but somehow, as I move down towards the tab area, VoiceOver starts reporting the currently selected tab group, and only identifies the individual tab names, with radio button appended, once I am directly over those tabs. It's as though the currently selected tab blots out the tab grouping selection, which is indeed how it appears from the item chooser menu behavior -- only the currently selected tab, whichever one it is, is visible to VoiceOver. If any list members are working as developers with the Mountain Lion gold master, please check the behavior of Java Preferences! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Profiles on iOS
Hi Zack Yes, I knew about that but the point is you cannot lock those options down. For instance, a student could simply go into the restrictions area and undo what I did. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 17:43, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I think you might want to investigate the restrictions, area of the settings app. This ought to do what you are looking for, or at least some of it. It was designed for parental controls, and includes such options as disabling the store, etc. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Profiles on iOS
Hi Sarah I can't find that on the download page I'm afraid. I'm not saying it isn't there, just that I couldn't find it. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:07, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: You might be able to use the iPhone configuration utility to do this. I don't use it in that fashion but from what i understand you can create specific profiles for specific things, for example to connect to a wifi network and all you do is email someone that profile and when they get to your destination. They just install said profile and away they go. You might be able to find it at http://Apple.Com/downloads Here's an article that explains what this tool does and how you might the able to benefit from it. http://www.macworld.com/article/143088/2009/10/carriersettings.html good luck. On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Profiles on iOS
Hi Gordon, This might be what you're looking for? http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-configurator/id434433123?mt=12 Cheers, Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:35, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah I can't find that on the download page I'm afraid. I'm not saying it isn't there, just that I couldn't find it. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:07, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: You might be able to use the iPhone configuration utility to do this. I don't use it in that fashion but from what i understand you can create specific profiles for specific things, for example to connect to a wifi network and all you do is email someone that profile and when they get to your destination. They just install said profile and away they go. You might be able to find it at http://Apple.Com/downloads Here's an article that explains what this tool does and how you might the able to benefit from it. http://www.macworld.com/article/143088/2009/10/carriersettings.html good luck. On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your
RE: Profiles on iOS
Hi Gordon, I believe that what you are talking about is one of the new features of IOS 6. I know that we don't talk about rumors but I believe that this was one of the things that Apple mentioned in their keynote presentation back in June. I believe that the video is still on the Apple website. Tommy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:42 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Profiles on iOS Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: crash plan questions, and some issues with said software
Actually that didn't work. I had to turn off vo and then click it with the mouse. But you are supposed to be able to change settings like bandwidth speed and priority according to the wonderfully written faq i read all of and practically memorized. Except the settings part is no ware in the app. And now when i woke up this morning i got Cache: Queued in the status window. It's been like that for who knows how long. I hope it's not going to stay that way all day. There is one major bug when you want to set up a folder to back up what ever you want to back up. I have mine on an external 2 tb drive which is more then enough space. When you want to select a folder, for some reason vo down arrow selects multiple rows. I had to hit down arrow which did not speak then hit vo f6 to see what folder i was on. We'll see if the folder back up works. As of now and starting about an hour ago it says waiting for back up. All of this worked until i went to bed last night so i really can't say what happened. Thank goodness i'm on the unlimited trial for now anyways. I was thinking of getting this service but as of now since i had all of these problems when i got up, i'm not so sure. All in all the software looks pretty good. It's the server end i'm worried about. Looking at the logs i see no reason why i should have seen that since who knows when lol! hopefully the software will be improved over time. It's already there, but it needs just a tad more work. Take care all and be blessed. On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Click the crashPlan central link with the mouse or VO+Shift+Space. Then the tabs appear. HTH Gordon You can let your friends use part of your backup plan if you wish. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:48, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm beginning to like the crash plan interface, and the price. especially since I only need 1 computer lol! but I have a question. How do I access the tab for cloud and over view and stuff again I can't see how i accessed it before. I'm using what ever the new version is. Also what is this let friends back up to you thing? sounds odd. Over all I love the interface on OSx. and am considering signing up for the 1 computer deal since I will be the only one using it. lol! Take care and thanks for who ever recommended it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Profiles on iOS
Hi Donal Thanks for this. But it won't allow me to download the darn thing. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:40, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Gordon, This might be what you're looking for? http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-configurator/id434433123?mt=12 Cheers, Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:35, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah I can't find that on the download page I'm afraid. I'm not saying it isn't there, just that I couldn't find it. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:07, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: You might be able to use the iPhone configuration utility to do this. I don't use it in that fashion but from what i understand you can create specific profiles for specific things, for example to connect to a wifi network and all you do is email someone that profile and when they get to your destination. They just install said profile and away they go. You might be able to find it at http://Apple.Com/downloads Here's an article that explains what this tool does and how you might the able to benefit from it. http://www.macworld.com/article/143088/2009/10/carriersettings.html good luck. On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: Profiles on iOS
really? Any idea why? On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:47, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Donal Thanks for this. But it won't allow me to download the darn thing. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:40, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Gordon, This might be what you're looking for? http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-configurator/id434433123?mt=12 Cheers, Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:35, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah I can't find that on the download page I'm afraid. I'm not saying it isn't there, just that I couldn't find it. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:07, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: You might be able to use the iPhone configuration utility to do this. I don't use it in that fashion but from what i understand you can create specific profiles for specific things, for example to connect to a wifi network and all you do is email someone that profile and when they get to your destination. They just install said profile and away they go. You might be able to find it at http://Apple.Com/downloads Here's an article that explains what this tool does and how you might the able to benefit from it. http://www.macworld.com/article/143088/2009/10/carriersettings.html good luck. On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Sarah No, I don't mean either of those things actually. Let me explain. As part of the job I may be in line for shortly, it will be my duty to configure and maintain iPads for a bunch of students in an academy. What I wanted to do was to disable certain functions on the iPad, such as the iTunes App Store. Since these devices will be the property of the academy, we would only require school-related software and content to be installed. Thus, my query regarding a profile which we could lock, in order to prevent such activities as app and music installation. This has nothing whatever to do with beta testing software. I actually know how that's done as it happens. Gordon On 23 Jul 2012, at 16:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: If you mean user accounts like things, no. If you mean profiles for beta testing software I don't know. I only know how to install them. lol! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail
command click not working
hi to all in itunes on the mac when i do command and click on restore button it is not bringing up a file open dialogue as i hear it is supposed to do for me to restore firmware from an IPSW file any help please? reply off list if easier --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: command click not working
Actually it's option click. and the best work around it sot vo cmd f5 not he restore button, turn off vo and option click the restore button then turn on vo. You will then choose the ipsw for your restore. Take care. On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:14 AM, william lomas wrote: hi to all in itunes on the mac when i do command and click on restore button it is not bringing up a file open dialogue as i hear it is supposed to do for me to restore firmware from an IPSW file any help please? reply off list if easier --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: training
If you have a local apple store, see if there is a well-trained, enthusiastic VO user. I realize that they are few and far between, but, I have found one in Denver. She is terrific, as she actually uses VO and no monitor! Diane ! - Original Message - From: Rob Murthwaite rob.murthwa...@blueyonder.co.uk To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:29 AM Subject: training Hi, I am relatively new to Macs having used Windows and Jaws for many years. My employer has only recently updated from snowleopard to lion and this has thrown me into a little confusion. I am looking for some, competent, training on lion using voiceover. Any suggestions? Rob Murthwaite --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: training
Diane, I will do this, useful advice. thanks Rob M On 24 Jul 2012, at 19:25, Diane Bomar wrote: If you have a local apple store, see if there is a well-trained, enthusiastic VO user. I realize that they are few and far between, but, I have found one in Denver. She is terrific, as she actually uses VO and no monitor! Diane ! - Original Message - From: Rob Murthwaite rob.murthwa...@blueyonder.co.uk To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:29 AM Subject: training Hi, I am relatively new to Macs having used Windows and Jaws for many years. My employer has only recently updated from snowleopard to lion and this has thrown me into a little confusion. I am looking for some, competent, training on lion using voiceover. Any suggestions? Rob Murthwaite --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
mac mini monitors was: Re: Dropbox, Finder, and Mini not playing nice together
I purchased a monitor for $99 at Best Buy, don't remember the brand, plus the cable. But, the cables are much less on Amazon. Diane - Original Message - From: Eric Caron eric_ca...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Dropbox,Finder, and Mini not playing nice together hello Esther and others, that was a interesting article. I thought that it was possible that maybe Dropbox took up more bandwidth then Google Drive causing the busy problem, but the article seems to imply that The default Dropbox setting is taking up less. If I can figure out how to access the Dropbox settings I'll try to play with them. it would be fun to try to fix the problem. the Mini is a greg little computer over all. It is very snappy compared to my 2009 mac book with 4 gigs. this 2011 computer with 8 gigs is deffinately more responsive.I would be perfectly happy to use it without a screen, but if unexpected performance problems can be avoided by getting a screen then that will be my solution. Now I just need to learn a little about modern computer screens as I have not looked into that for well over a decade. I don't even know what HDMI stands for or what the HDMI to DVI converter cable is. Anyone out there have screen info for me? Eric Caron On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Eric, That's very interesting about being able to use Google Drive. I think the relevant property about the kind of outside network resources that you use, and how it might impact your Mac Mini's Finder busy message, is what happens with the file syncing and updating of information. With Dropbox, and also with Google Drive, there are advanced menu options for controlling what you sync and the syncing speeds for upload and download. I've never experimented with these, but this basically establishes the amount of network bandwidth you might be using with your various file operations. I suspect that this is what is contributing to amount of Finder activity that you're seeing without a monitor. In the meantime, you've provided a useful piece of information for other Mini users who want to use a file transfer facility. I'll give you a link to a recent Lifehacker article that compares Google Drive and Dropbox, and describes the differences in syncing speed. There's also an interesting comment about being able to use Google's OCR capabilities on scanned document files. I'm not sure whether all the features that are mentioned are accessible. • File Syncing Faceoff: Dropbox vs. Google Drive by Whitson Gordon, April 24, 2012 http://lifehacker.com/5904731/desktop-file-syncing-faceoff-dropbox-vs-google-drive Hope you are otherwise enjoying your Mini. Cheers, Esther On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Esther and others, the blog post from John is very helpful and makes me feel better that once I find a monitor I'll have a nicely functioning mini. One interesting thing about the observation concerning outside network resources. I have this problem with Dropbox but not with google drive. This is helpful as I can use google drive as a easy way to transfer files to and from my mini just like dropbox. i'll do this until I find a monitor. I do rely on Dropbox so this is only a temporary solution. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your