anti virus

2013-05-14 Thread Rudolph, Douglas
hey guys :)

make this short and sweet. I am wondering what your thoughts on anti virus apps 
for mac.   i am looking in the free section,   clearly i have set up firewall 
on the mac, and also an system inscription, but i want to be sure. i also have 
c cleaner.   any suggestions would rock :)
thank you
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ProTools 11

2013-05-14 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi all

Has anybody tried the new ProTools and, if so, how does it come up against the 
issues of accessibility?  I need to find a way to produce some professional 
quality audio and I have yet to find an editor on any platform which will do 
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a question about time machine and files on a mac

2013-05-14 Thread Matthew Carello
good morning all. i was wondering if there was anything I should know about 
using time machine? Is it better to use it on the hard disk or an external? Any 
other tips? Also I have a lot of files i created on my windows machine. Is 
there anything I should know about using them on the mac? will there be any 
problems in doing so?
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Re: ProTools 11

2013-05-14 Thread Chris Gilland

Gordon,

At this time, I'm unaware of the accessibility issues being any better.

I'm not meaning to be rude, and I very much earnestly hope you don't take 
this out of context of how I mean this, as though I'm sure this may come 
across sounding perhaps very rude, it is definitely! not my intention nor 
what I wish to convey...


I've written you and Lynn both, both on and off list multiple times 
regarding the use of ProTools.  I've sent you all privately a few recordings 
I've done, I've agreed to set up a Skype call/phone call to demonstrate to 
you all how the accessibility worked in Protools, and even wrote a long 
e-mail which took me over an hour to type up, with all the accessibility 
issues that I knew of.  I even offered you a resource for getting your 
ProTools license you buy to work on version 10.0 which is quite usable. 
This all being said, I keep hearing you say that you do not know about 
accessibility, and how urgent it is that you find something very soon.  I 
guess my question to you would be, how soon is soon?  I mean, no offense 
intended, but we've kind of been going back and forth on the PT 
accessibility for at least a month now, ifn ot more.  I'm still incredibly 
willing to help you, don't get me wrong, but it just seems like all of the 
help I'm offerring you is being ignored or unconsidered, because after all 
thus far I've contributed to your question, in the past, I would assume that 
you'd have a fairly decent understanding of what works vs. what doesn't. 
Maybe not from seeing it in action, but again, I even offered that, and 
never heard back.


Let me know what I can do.  I can't help you if you don't set up a rock 
solid time with me to allow me to help/show you.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:08 AM
Subject: ProTools 11



Hi all

Has anybody tried the new ProTools and, if so, how does it come up against 
the issues of accessibility?  I need to find a way to produce some 
professional quality audio and I have yet to find an editor on any 
platform which will do what I need in an accessible manner.


Thanks.
Kind regards

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RE: ProTools 11

2013-05-14 Thread David Griffith
I have no moderator status but I would respectfully suggest that perhaps
this particular aspect of this discussion should be taken off list as the
issues raised do not seem to relate to other list members in general.

David Griffith


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: 14 May 2013 12:55
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: ProTools 11

Gordon,

At this time, I'm unaware of the accessibility issues being any better.

I'm not meaning to be rude, and I very much earnestly hope you don't take
this out of context of how I mean this, as though I'm sure this may come
across sounding perhaps very rude, it is definitely! not my intention nor
what I wish to convey...

I've written you and Lynn both, both on and off list multiple times
regarding the use of ProTools.  I've sent you all privately a few recordings
I've done, I've agreed to set up a Skype call/phone call to demonstrate to
you all how the accessibility worked in Protools, and even wrote a long
e-mail which took me over an hour to type up, with all the accessibility
issues that I knew of.  I even offered you a resource for getting your
ProTools license you buy to work on version 10.0 which is quite usable. 
This all being said, I keep hearing you say that you do not know about
accessibility, and how urgent it is that you find something very soon.  I
guess my question to you would be, how soon is soon?  I mean, no offense
intended, but we've kind of been going back and forth on the PT
accessibility for at least a month now, ifn ot more.  I'm still incredibly
willing to help you, don't get me wrong, but it just seems like all of the
help I'm offerring you is being ignored or unconsidered, because after all
thus far I've contributed to your question, in the past, I would assume that
you'd have a fairly decent understanding of what works vs. what doesn't. 
Maybe not from seeing it in action, but again, I even offered that, and
never heard back.

Let me know what I can do.  I can't help you if you don't set up a rock
solid time with me to allow me to help/show you.

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:08 AM
Subject: ProTools 11


 Hi all

 Has anybody tried the new ProTools and, if so, how does it come up against

 the issues of accessibility?  I need to find a way to produce some 
 professional quality audio and I have yet to find an editor on any 
 platform which will do what I need in an accessible manner.

 Thanks.
 Kind regards

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Re: a question about time machine and files on a mac

2013-05-14 Thread Isaac Hebert
Time machine will work  all the files.

On 5/14/13, Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net wrote:
 good morning all. i was wondering if there was anything I should know about
 using time machine? Is it better to use it on the hard disk or an external?
 Any other tips? Also I have a lot of files i created on my windows machine.
 Is there anything I should know about using them on the mac? will there be
 any problems in doing so?
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Re: ProTools 11

2013-05-14 Thread Chris Gilland
Dobn't worry, I made my comment and will not be commenting further on nor 
off list, case closed.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com

To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: ProTools 11



I have no moderator status but I would respectfully suggest that perhaps
this particular aspect of this discussion should be taken off list as the
issues raised do not seem to relate to other list members in general.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: 14 May 2013 12:55
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: ProTools 11

Gordon,

At this time, I'm unaware of the accessibility issues being any better.

I'm not meaning to be rude, and I very much earnestly hope you don't take
this out of context of how I mean this, as though I'm sure this may come
across sounding perhaps very rude, it is definitely! not my intention nor
what I wish to convey...

I've written you and Lynn both, both on and off list multiple times
regarding the use of ProTools.  I've sent you all privately a few 
recordings

I've done, I've agreed to set up a Skype call/phone call to demonstrate to
you all how the accessibility worked in Protools, and even wrote a long
e-mail which took me over an hour to type up, with all the accessibility
issues that I knew of.  I even offered you a resource for getting your
ProTools license you buy to work on version 10.0 which is quite usable.
This all being said, I keep hearing you say that you do not know about
accessibility, and how urgent it is that you find something very soon.  I
guess my question to you would be, how soon is soon?  I mean, no offense
intended, but we've kind of been going back and forth on the PT
accessibility for at least a month now, ifn ot more.  I'm still incredibly
willing to help you, don't get me wrong, but it just seems like all of the
help I'm offerring you is being ignored or unconsidered, because after all
thus far I've contributed to your question, in the past, I would assume 
that

you'd have a fairly decent understanding of what works vs. what doesn't.
Maybe not from seeing it in action, but again, I even offered that, and
never heard back.

Let me know what I can do.  I can't help you if you don't set up a rock
solid time with me to allow me to help/show you.

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:08 AM
Subject: ProTools 11



Hi all

Has anybody tried the new ProTools and, if so, how does it come up 
against



the issues of accessibility?  I need to find a way to produce some
professional quality audio and I have yet to find an editor on any
platform which will do what I need in an accessible manner.

Thanks.
Kind regards

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Re: anti virus

2013-05-14 Thread Isaac Hebert
iAntivirus Kaspersky Virus Scanner (for Mac) ($9.99 Avira Free Comodo
Antivirus for Mac (Free) Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac Home Edition avast!
Free Antivirus for Mac ClamXav Trend Micro Smart Surfing for Mac
($49.95 VirusBarrier x6 ($49.95/year Bitdefender Antivirus for Mac
($39.95 Panda Antivirus for Mac ($49.99  F-Secure Anti-Virus for Mac

On 5/14/13, Rudolph, Douglas douglas.rudo...@usask.ca wrote:
 hey guys :)

 make this short and sweet. I am wondering what your thoughts on anti virus
 apps for mac.   i am looking in the free section,   clearly i have set up
 firewall on the mac, and also an system inscription, but i want to be sure.
 i also have c cleaner.   any suggestions would rock :)
 thank you
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RE: Multi channel Bluetooth headphones.

2013-05-14 Thread wayne17a
Hi what modle have you and can you use windows with it 

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:11 PM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Multi channel Bluetooth headphones.

Well, I know my logitech keyboard has the ability to use the f-keys to
switch through devices, which I absolutely adore, although I wish I could
find the manual for it, if anyone can email me one offlist that'd be good,
as I don't have access to safari at the moment. 

Sent from my iPod

On 13 mai 2013, at 19:45, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Hello all.
 
 
 I am seeking for a set of Bluetooth headphones that can sync to a iPhone
and my Mac at the same time. Ideally I would like it to be able to sync to 3
devices at the same time. One can be a passive/active relationship. That is,
you press a button to toggle between the 2 channels. The third channel is
for the phone.
 
 Jawbone apparently has one and I am waiting upon some feedback from a
person who is testing it. Any other ideas?
 
 
 What I am facing is that I have multiple bluetooth devices. I wish to be
able to use one bluetooth head set. Then switch between all the bluetooth
devices. If a Bluetooth head phones do not have this capability, what other
devices might have the ability of switching between devices or allowing you
to have 2 audio streams working at the same time. 
 
 Sean 
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Re: logitech keyboard

2013-05-14 Thread Devin Prater
I believe its the 760. I haven't tried it with windows yet. 

Sent from my iPod

On 14 mai 2013, at 10:27, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi what modle have you and can you use windows with it 
 
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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
 Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:11 PM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Multi channel Bluetooth headphones.
 
 Well, I know my logitech keyboard has the ability to use the f-keys to
 switch through devices, which I absolutely adore, although I wish I could
 find the manual for it, if anyone can email me one offlist that'd be good,
 as I don't have access to safari at the moment. 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 13 mai 2013, at 19:45, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hello all.
 
 
 I am seeking for a set of Bluetooth headphones that can sync to a iPhone
 and my Mac at the same time. Ideally I would like it to be able to sync to 3
 devices at the same time. One can be a passive/active relationship. That is,
 you press a button to toggle between the 2 channels. The third channel is
 for the phone.
 
 Jawbone apparently has one and I am waiting upon some feedback from a
 person who is testing it. Any other ideas?
 
 
 What I am facing is that I have multiple bluetooth devices. I wish to be
 able to use one bluetooth head set. Then switch between all the bluetooth
 devices. If a Bluetooth head phones do not have this capability, what other
 devices might have the ability of switching between devices or allowing you
 to have 2 audio streams working at the same time. 
 
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Re: anti virus

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I use clamxav. It is free and is for me very very powerful. If you don't know 
what you are doing … So back up your system just in case. I have not yet 
screwed anything up, but I always always keep a back up in case I am on too 
little sleep. lol!

Here is a podcast I did on this program. The link to the website for clamxav is 
in the show notes..

http://www.tffppodcast.com/a-look-at-clamxav-a-free-antivirus-solution-for-the-mac/

Good luck and hope that helps. 

Take care.
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 hey guys :)
 
 make this short and sweet. I am wondering what your thoughts on anti virus 
 apps for mac.   i am looking in the free section,   clearly i have set up 
 firewall on the mac, and also an system inscription, but i want to be sure. i 
 also have c cleaner.   any suggestions would rock :)
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Re: ProTools 11

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
The only thing I'm worried about in pro tools anything is the note editor. You 
can sustain notes and put a lift in notes and nudge them over and stuff as I've 
seen my teacher do it, but I really don't know how accessible it would be for 
us to even remotely use it.  or at least those of us who play instruments and 
keyboards and pianos and stuff. Also automation. You might or might not need a 
control service. the studio I go to for my work has a hybrid mixer that is both 
a board and  control surface. so that helps but for those of us who don't have 
half a million dollars it will not. *smily*

I love what protools can do and how accessible it might become in the future, 
but the note editor and automation for me is the key.

This is also true in garage band as well. The same access issues arise when it 
comes to the note editor and automation of things like volume or a reverb or 
what not.  I have sent a detailed bug report to apple for the past few years to 
no avail, both through the developer website and the accessibility address. If 
we can all talk to avid and apple and get these things straightened out, then I 
think we might have something for those of us who are indi artists and have the 
equipment at home or are engineers and can work with midi with our clients. .

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:

 Dobn't worry, I made my comment and will not be commenting further on nor off 
 list, case closed.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: David Griffith 
 d.griff...@btinternet.com
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 AM
 Subject: RE: ProTools 11
 
 
 I have no moderator status but I would respectfully suggest that perhaps
 this particular aspect of this discussion should be taken off list as the
 issues raised do not seem to relate to other list members in general.
 
 David Griffith
 
 
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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
 Sent: 14 May 2013 12:55
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: ProTools 11
 
 Gordon,
 
 At this time, I'm unaware of the accessibility issues being any better.
 
 I'm not meaning to be rude, and I very much earnestly hope you don't take
 this out of context of how I mean this, as though I'm sure this may come
 across sounding perhaps very rude, it is definitely! not my intention nor
 what I wish to convey...
 
 I've written you and Lynn both, both on and off list multiple times
 regarding the use of ProTools.  I've sent you all privately a few recordings
 I've done, I've agreed to set up a Skype call/phone call to demonstrate to
 you all how the accessibility worked in Protools, and even wrote a long
 e-mail which took me over an hour to type up, with all the accessibility
 issues that I knew of.  I even offered you a resource for getting your
 ProTools license you buy to work on version 10.0 which is quite usable.
 This all being said, I keep hearing you say that you do not know about
 accessibility, and how urgent it is that you find something very soon.  I
 guess my question to you would be, how soon is soon?  I mean, no offense
 intended, but we've kind of been going back and forth on the PT
 accessibility for at least a month now, ifn ot more.  I'm still incredibly
 willing to help you, don't get me wrong, but it just seems like all of the
 help I'm offerring you is being ignored or unconsidered, because after all
 thus far I've contributed to your question, in the past, I would assume that
 you'd have a fairly decent understanding of what works vs. what doesn't.
 Maybe not from seeing it in action, but again, I even offered that, and
 never heard back.
 
 Let me know what I can do.  I can't help you if you don't set up a rock
 solid time with me to allow me to help/show you.
 
 Chris.
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:08 AM
 Subject: ProTools 11
 
 
 Hi all
 
 Has anybody tried the new ProTools and, if so, how does it come up against
 
 the issues of accessibility?  I need to find a way to produce some
 professional quality audio and I have yet to find an editor on any
 platform which will do what I need in an accessible manner.
 
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Re: a question about time machine and files on a mac

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
No problems with any files created outside of os and in the operation system 
that should not be named.

Also it's better to use an external hard drive for the time machine. It keeps 
local back ups anyways, and I have mine disabled because of some issues with 
iMovie. but I personally like a time machine back up on an external media so 
that way I can keep if I wanted to up to a year of back ups depending on the 
size and have them cleaned out once in a while.

Take care.
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 good morning all. i was wondering if there was anything I should know about 
 using time machine? Is it better to use it on the hard disk or an external? 
 Any other tips? Also I have a lot of files i created on my windows machine. 
 Is there anything I should know about using them on the mac? will there be 
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Re: a question about time machine and files on a mac

2013-05-14 Thread Josh Gregory
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend using Time Machine on the internal hard drive 
because you have to partition it if you do this, and if you have to get it 
replaced because of a failure or something, this could be an issue. I think it 
was for me when my hard drive failed five months into me having my Mac and I 
took it in to get it replaced.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 No problems with any files created outside of os and in the operation system 
 that should not be named.
 
 Also it's better to use an external hard drive for the time machine. It keeps 
 local back ups anyways, and I have mine disabled because of some issues with 
 iMovie. but I personally like a time machine back up on an external media so 
 that way I can keep if I wanted to up to a year of back ups depending on the 
 size and have them cleaned out once in a while.
 
 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 good morning all. i was wondering if there was anything I should know about 
 using time machine? Is it better to use it on the hard disk or an external? 
 Any other tips? Also I have a lot of files i created on my windows machine. 
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Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-14 Thread Esther
Hello All,

The new version 2 update of the Prizmo iOS OCR app is out, and the developers, 
Creaceed, have put this app on sale as part of its launch. Prizmo 2 is a free 
update for anyone who already bought the Prizmo iOS app.  The app normally 
lists for $9.99 but may be purchased for $5.99 for a limited time:
• Prizmo - Scanning, OCR, and Speech (on sale for $5.99) by Creaceed
https://itunes.apple.com/app/prizmo/id366791896?mt=8

I've already tried out one new feature that will make this app useful even if 
you never use this with a camera to take pictures of a document to OCR -- you 
can open scanned PDFs in this app and OCR their contents.  So if someone sends 
you PDF scanned documents as an attachment, you can just double tap on the 
attachment and select open in then choose Prizmo.  The multipage document 
shows up on the main screen and you just double tap to open it. You can double 
tap each page and then double tap the recognize button at the top right 
corner, and read the text results.  They've also simplified the work flow 
interface.  The PDFs can be produced by other apps or opened from file or web 
sources like Dropbox, etc. (I haven't tried this yet.)

If you want to take add images to a multipage document, there's and Add new 
page button.

In addition to the original 10 languages that were supported in version 1, 
(English, French, German, Dutch, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Swedish, Danish 
and Norwegian).  You can get support for additional languages as free 
downloads: Afrikaans, Albanian, Basque, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Catalan, 
Croatian, Czech, Esperanto, Estonian, Finnish, Galician, Hebrew, Hungarian, 
Icelandic, Indonesian, Korean, Latin, Latvian, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Malay, 
Polish, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Swahili, Thai, Turkish, 
Ukrainian, and Vietnamese.

The Prizmo support web site documentation also mentioned that for accurate OCR 
from a device's camera image, at least a 3 megapixel camera is required.  Thus, 
in addition to iPhone support, they state that the cameras of the iPad 3, iPad 
4, and iPad mini, and the 5th generation iPod Touch can be used.  The built-in 
cameras of the 2nd generation iPad and the 4th generation iPod Touch are 1 
megapixel or less.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther




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Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread George Cham
I have a external cd dvd drive. 
When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
The disc does not eject. 
Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 

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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Josh Gregory
There should be an eject button on your keyboard, or you can go to the drive in 
the computer section of your Mac and press command plus e to eject it.

Sent from my iPhone

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 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Esther
Hi George,

As Josh suggests, you should be able to eject your drive from Finder, if you 
use Command-Shift-C to view your computer and its attached drives.  Select the 
drive you want to eject, and press Command-E.  From the description, the 
Mountain app would also handle ejecting external DVD and CD drives, but you 
might have to check these options in the Advanced pane of the application's 
preferences (accessed with Command-comma).

HTH. Cheers,

Esther
 
On May 14, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Josh Gregory wrote:

 There should be an eject button on your keyboard, or you can go to the drive 
 in the computer section of your Mac and press command plus e to eject it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
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RE: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread David Griffith
If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a finger
down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah who gave me
this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a particularly
obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac in for repair on
the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd 

I have a external cd dvd drive. 
When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
The disc does not eject. 
Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 

Typed with Fleksy
reply://george.c...@outlook.com




George,

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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Josh Gregory
What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a finger
 down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah who gave me
 this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a particularly
 obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac in for repair on
 the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd 
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
 George,
 
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Re: anyone know of a good DVD ripper for mountain lion?

2013-05-14 Thread Esther
Hello Michael,

There are two DVD ripping programs that you might try under Mountain Lion: 
Ripit by the Little App Factory and Mac DVD Ripper Pro.  Up until July 2012, 
Metakine, the developer of DVDRemaster 8 (which used to be called DVDRemaster 
Pro), used to make available from their web site for free,  an open source 
program name FairMount that would handle decryption.  However, they sold the 
rights to FairMount to the company that now makes Mac DVD Ripper Pro.  The free 
FairMount program by itself won't work under Mountain Lion, nor will Handbrake 
with VLC, to get past decryption.  This was discussed on list last September, 
and is in the archives.

Both of the above programs have free trial downloads.  You can find then a the 
MacUpdate site or at the developer's web site. (I generally Google the  name of 
an app along with MacUpdate to find the page.)

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

 On May 13, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 i would use handbrake but it's not great on ML and it can't brake a lot 
 of incription.
 On 14/05/2013, at 12:16 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No. I use avi files.  and confert them to mp3 if I want the video out 
 which I do normally. 99 gigs of avi files turned in to 27 gigs over 
 night. lol. Yeah I really don't' use dvds anymore.
 
 What you could do though is use hand brake to rip to mp4 then use easy 
 music converter to take the audio out and turn them in to mp3 files or 
 what ever files you want.
 
 If you want all the tracks of the dvd in separate files add them to the 
 queue. It's been a long time since I have used hand brake so I can't 
 remember the key stroke anymore, but it does work and work very very 
 well.
 
 Take care.
 
 On May 12, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hello listers,
 i'm wondering if anyone would know of a good DVD ripper for mountain 
 lion? i had a play with DVD remaster but i want to back up a DVD i 
 brought an it can't rip it because of incription.
 thanks for any help.
 Michael

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RE: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread David Griffith
Eject a stuck CD.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
wrote:

 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Josh Gregory
Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive was 
not damaged.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread George Cham
I pressed cmd eject, did not work. Have got the volume drive on the desktop. 
So I pressed shift vo m and brought up the menu. I then selected eject. 


George,

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On 15/05/2013, at 8:22 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive was 
 not damaged.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
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RE: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread David Griffith
Well yes but I thought the drive must have been damaged, as nothing I tried
would eject the CD, including restarting the Mac so it was a great relief
when this tip from Sarah worked.

David Griffith

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
Sent: 14 May 2013 23:22
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive was
not damaged.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
wrote:

 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith 
 d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was 
 Sarah who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method 
 on a particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in 
 my iMac in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but
it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
 George,
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You should have just been able to press cmd e not cmd eject.

Good luck.
On May 14, 2013, at 3:41 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:

 I pressed cmd eject, did not work. Have got the volume drive on the desktop. 
 So I pressed shift vo m and brought up the menu. I then selected eject. 
 
 
 George,
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:22 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive was 
 not damaged.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
 George,
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread George Cham
It works,, 
I pressed cmd e and the disc ejected. 
But here's a question, 
What if I eject the wrong drive, like my external drive that I'm using as a 
time machine. 
Do I need to restart the Mac? 


George,

  Sent from my iPad

On 15/05/2013, at 8:44 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 You should have just been able to press cmd e not cmd eject.
 
 Good luck.
 On May 14, 2013, at 3:41 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 I pressed cmd eject, did not work. Have got the volume drive on the desktop. 
 So I pressed shift vo m and brought up the menu. I then selected eject. 
 
 
 George,
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:22 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive 
 was not damaged.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
 George,
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Josh Gregory
Not quite understanding, are you saying you got it fixed?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 6:41 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:

 I pressed cmd eject, did not work. Have got the volume drive on the desktop. 
 So I pressed shift vo m and brought up the menu. I then selected eject. 
 
 
 George,
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:22 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive was 
 not damaged.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
 George,
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Josh Gregory
No, you could just unplug it slightly from the port that it is in and we plug 
it in.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 6:55 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:

 It works,, 
 I pressed cmd e and the disc ejected. 
 But here's a question, 
 What if I eject the wrong drive, like my external drive that I'm using as a 
 time machine. 
 Do I need to restart the Mac? 
 
 
 George,
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:44 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You should have just been able to press cmd e not cmd eject.
 
 Good luck.
 On May 14, 2013, at 3:41 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 I pressed cmd eject, did not work. Have got the volume drive on the 
 desktop. 
 So I pressed shift vo m and brought up the menu. I then selected eject. 
 
 
 George,
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:22 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive 
 was not damaged.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
 George,
 
 Sent from my iPad
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
No. just go to disk utility, choose your drive and hit cmd shift m to mount the 
drive. Iv'e done this many many times when my brain is not awake yet.  so I 
have memorized this sequence of events. lol!

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 3:55 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:

 It works,, 
 I pressed cmd e and the disc ejected. 
 But here's a question, 
 What if I eject the wrong drive, like my external drive that I'm using as a 
 time machine. 
 Do I need to restart the Mac? 
 
 
 George,
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:44 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You should have just been able to press cmd e not cmd eject.
 
 Good luck.
 On May 14, 2013, at 3:41 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 I pressed cmd eject, did not work. Have got the volume drive on the 
 desktop. 
 So I pressed shift vo m and brought up the menu. I then selected eject. 
 
 
 George,
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:22 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive 
 was not damaged.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I forgot to add the following. You need to go to the drive name you gave it. 
Like for example it might say 2 tb elements drive and then underneath that it 
will say george's time machine or what ever.  you hit cmd shift m on george's 
time machine.

Hth.
On May 14, 2013, at 3:55 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:

 It works,, 
 I pressed cmd e and the disc ejected. 
 But here's a question, 
 What if I eject the wrong drive, like my external drive that I'm using as a 
 time machine. 
 Do I need to restart the Mac? 
 
 
 George,
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:44 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You should have just been able to press cmd e not cmd eject.
 
 Good luck.
 On May 14, 2013, at 3:41 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 I pressed cmd eject, did not work. Have got the volume drive on the 
 desktop. 
 So I pressed shift vo m and brought up the menu. I then selected eject. 
 
 
 George,
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 15/05/2013, at 8:22 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive 
 was not damaged.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Yeah. It makes sense that command would work if the drive was undamaged. I 
tried that on a persons' computer and it didn't work. The drive we found out 
afterwards needed replacing. 

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh that's sweet! :-) I'm assuming it would only work though if the drive was 
 not damaged.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eject a stuck CD.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 14 May 2013 23:06
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 What does restarting your Mac while holding down the trackpad do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 If a CD will   not eject I try the following in order.
 1. Press command E in finder on the CD Drive.
 2. If that does not work restart your Mac.
 3. If that does not work restart your Mac again but this time hold a 
 finger down on your Trackpad as the Mac restarts. I think it was Sarah 
 who gave me this tip. I had thought, until I tried this method on a 
 particularly obstinate CD, that I was going to have to send in my iMac 
 in for repair on the CD Drive. Not quite sure why it worked but it did.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: 14 May 2013 21:58
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Ejecting a cd or dvd
 
 I have a external cd dvd drive. 
 When I'm finished using it, I use the eject feature of the Mac. 
 The disc does not eject. 
 Will the mountin  app, That was discussed on the list eject the drive? 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 reply://george.c...@outlook.com
 
 
 
 
 George,
 
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can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to see 
my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?

Take care and thanks,

Brenda

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Re: anyone know of a good DVD ripper for mountain lion?

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
thanks for geting back to me.
can boath of these DVD rippers handel decription of DVD's?
i will look at all of them.
thanks again
Michael
On 15/05/2013, at 8:12 AM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hello Michael,
 
 There are two DVD ripping programs that you might try under Mountain Lion: 
 Ripit by the Little App Factory and Mac DVD Ripper Pro.  Up until July 2012, 
 Metakine, the developer of DVDRemaster 8 (which used to be called DVDRemaster 
 Pro), used to make available from their web site for free,  an open source 
 program name FairMount that would handle decryption.  However, they sold the 
 rights to FairMount to the company that now makes Mac DVD Ripper Pro.  The 
 free FairMount program by itself won't work under Mountain Lion, nor will 
 Handbrake with VLC, to get past decryption.  This was discussed on list last 
 September, and is in the archives.
 
 Both of the above programs have free trial downloads.  You can find then a 
 the MacUpdate site or at the developer's web site. (I generally Google the  
 name of an app along with MacUpdate to find the page.)
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On May 13, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 i would use handbrake but it's not great on ML and it can't brake a lot 
 of incription.
 On 14/05/2013, at 12:16 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No. I use avi files.  and confert them to mp3 if I want the video out 
 which I do normally. 99 gigs of avi files turned in to 27 gigs over 
 night. lol. Yeah I really don't' use dvds anymore.
 
 What you could do though is use hand brake to rip to mp4 then use easy 
 music converter to take the audio out and turn them in to mp3 files or 
 what ever files you want.
 
 If you want all the tracks of the dvd in separate files add them to the 
 queue. It's been a long time since I have used hand brake so I can't 
 remember the key stroke anymore, but it does work and work very very 
 well.
 
 Take care.
 
 On May 12, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hello listers,
 i'm wondering if anyone would know of a good DVD ripper for mountain 
 lion? i had a play with DVD remaster but i want to back up a DVD i 
 brought an it can't rip it because of incription.
 thanks for any help.
 Michael
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I 
don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

Take care
On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to see 
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: logitech keyboard

2013-05-14 Thread Sean Murphy
Hello,

How is the bluetooth keyboard have anything related to my original question 
where I am requiring a multichannel Bluetooth head set.
On 15/05/2013, at 1:33 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

 I believe its the 760. I haven't tried it with windows yet. 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 14 mai 2013, at 10:27, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi what modle have you and can you use windows with it 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
 Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:11 PM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Multi channel Bluetooth headphones.
 
 Well, I know my logitech keyboard has the ability to use the f-keys to
 switch through devices, which I absolutely adore, although I wish I could
 find the manual for it, if anyone can email me one offlist that'd be good,
 as I don't have access to safari at the moment. 
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 13 mai 2013, at 19:45, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hello all.
 
 
 I am seeking for a set of Bluetooth headphones that can sync to a iPhone
 and my Mac at the same time. Ideally I would like it to be able to sync to 3
 devices at the same time. One can be a passive/active relationship. That is,
 you press a button to toggle between the 2 channels. The third channel is
 for the phone.
 
 Jawbone apparently has one and I am waiting upon some feedback from a
 person who is testing it. Any other ideas?
 
 
 What I am facing is that I have multiple bluetooth devices. I wish to be
 able to use one bluetooth head set. Then switch between all the bluetooth
 devices. If a Bluetooth head phones do not have this capability, what other
 devices might have the ability of switching between devices or allowing you
 to have 2 audio streams working at the same time. 
 
 Sean 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread chris h (sky)

You are wrong it can't be done at all.

On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I 
don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

Take care
On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:


Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to see
my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?

Take care and thanks,

Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
It can be done, I have done it, I am thinking it is in settings, but I may 
be wrong.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


You are wrong it can't be done at all.

On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I 
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to 
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?

 Take care and thanks,

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hm. Interesting.  Well try mail contacts and calendars and see if it is indeed 
there. Now Im stumped. I'dl look but I'm in the middle of scoring for an 
orchestra righ tnow. lol!

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It can be done, I have done it, I am thinking it is in settings, but I may 
 be wrong.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I 
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.
 
 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to 
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

Thanks and be blessed.
On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I 
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.
 
 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
sort order

Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

Thanks and be blessed.
On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. 
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong 
 though.

 Take care
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 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to 
 see
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 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: anyone know of a good DVD ripper for mountain lion?

2013-05-14 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
With mac dvd ripper pro, can you have it rip in any format? I downloaded the 
demo version, but I'm not seeing a place where I can choose what format I want 
my output file in. Am I missing something, or is there not a way to change this?
Courtney


Sent from my iMac

On May 14, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hello Michael,
 
 There are two DVD ripping programs that you might try under Mountain Lion: 
 Ripit by the Little App Factory and Mac DVD Ripper Pro.  Up until July 2012, 
 Metakine, the developer of DVDRemaster 8 (which used to be called DVDRemaster 
 Pro), used to make available from their web site for free,  an open source 
 program name FairMount that would handle decryption.  However, they sold the 
 rights to FairMount to the company that now makes Mac DVD Ripper Pro.  The 
 free FairMount program by itself won't work under Mountain Lion, nor will 
 Handbrake with VLC, to get past decryption.  This was discussed on list last 
 September, and is in the archives.
 
 Both of the above programs have free trial downloads.  You can find then a 
 the MacUpdate site or at the developer's web site. (I generally Google the  
 name of an app along with MacUpdate to find the page.)
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On May 13, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 i would use handbrake but it's not great on ML and it can't brake a lot 
 of incription.
 On 14/05/2013, at 12:16 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No. I use avi files.  and confert them to mp3 if I want the video out 
 which I do normally. 99 gigs of avi files turned in to 27 gigs over 
 night. lol. Yeah I really don't' use dvds anymore.
 
 What you could do though is use hand brake to rip to mp4 then use easy 
 music converter to take the audio out and turn them in to mp3 files or 
 what ever files you want.
 
 If you want all the tracks of the dvd in separate files add them to the 
 queue. It's been a long time since I have used hand brake so I can't 
 remember the key stroke anymore, but it does work and work very very 
 well.
 
 Take care.
 
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 hello listers,
 i'm wondering if anyone would know of a good DVD ripper for mountain 
 lion? i had a play with DVD remaster but i want to back up a DVD i 
 brought an it can't rip it because of incription.
 thanks for any help.
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at the 
bottom. lol!

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order
 
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.
 
 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:
 
 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. 
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong 
 though.
 
 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to 
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread John Panarese
   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts are 
listed in the Contacts app.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at the 
 bottom. lol!
 
 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order
 
 Glenn
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 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.
 
 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:
 
 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. 
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong 
 though.
 
 Take care
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 see
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 Take care and thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
No, there's nothing in there. Thanks, though.

Take care,

Brenda

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I 
don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

Take care
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
why is that? I thik that's rather strange. Some of us want to read things in 
continuous order, so we can know who asked what question and the answer to 
it. If I start at the very bottom of the screen, it doesn't even say 30 of 
30. It'll say something like:

4 of 30

and that's rather strange.

Take care,

Brenda

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


You are wrong it can't be done at all.

On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I 
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

 Take care
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 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to 
 see
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 Take care and thanks,

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
I didn't find anything in there. The closest to anything was:

sort contacts by first/ last or last/first

but I saw no E-Mail sort anywhere. If somebody really does find it, I'd like 
that.

Thanks,

Brenda

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It can be done, I have done it, I am thinking it is in settings, but I may
be wrong.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


You are wrong it can't be done at all.

On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

 Take care
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 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
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 Take care and thanks,

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
Brenda,
That is because there only so many displayed per page, you need to do a 
two-finger flick up to jump down a page.
Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


why is that? I thik that's rather strange. Some of us want to read things in
continuous order, so we can know who asked what question and the answer to
it. If I start at the very bottom of the screen, it doesn't even say 30 of
30. It'll say something like:

4 of 30

and that's rather strange.

Take care,

Brenda

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From: chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


You are wrong it can't be done at all.

On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

 Take care
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
That is still under eMail though, why it comes after contacts I don't know, 
I only know it effected my eMail.
Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I didn't find anything in there. The closest to anything was:

sort contacts by first/ last or last/first

but I saw no E-Mail sort anywhere. If somebody really does find it, I'd like
that.

Thanks,

Brenda

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It can be done, I have done it, I am thinking it is in settings, but I may
be wrong.
Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


You are wrong it can't be done at all.

On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the 
settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts 
are listed in the Contacts app.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at 
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your 
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the 
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
I thought that only sorted contacts. Am I wrong here? There's one part that 
says:

sort order display:

and another sort order contacts

Both of mine are sorted by first/last

I'll sure look, though.

No, that only sorts first andlast names of contacts, and the order 
of how you see them. Sorry about that.

Take care,

Brenda

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
sort order

Glenn
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From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

Thanks and be blessed.
On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
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 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
No, it doesn't work there. It's only for the contacts sort order.

Take care,

Brenda

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From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at the 
bottom. lol!

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the 
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
You're right.

Take care,

Brenda

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts 
are listed in the Contacts app.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at 
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your 
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the 
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
I'm sure that there's more than four displayed on a page. four of thirty--is 
my first one. Then it goes to 2 of thirty, and this is if I read at the 
bottom of the screen nd start up the screen.

Take care and thanks,

Brenda

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


Brenda,
That is because there only so many displayed per page, you need to do a
two-finger flick up to jump down a page.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


why is that? I thik that's rather strange. Some of us want to read things in
continuous order, so we can know who asked what question and the answer to
it. If I start at the very bottom of the screen, it doesn't even say 30 of
30. It'll say something like:

4 of 30

and that's rather strange.

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


You are wrong it can't be done at all.

On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
It didn't effect mine at all. Just the sort order of contacts.

Take care,

Brenda

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P.S.  Is your phone the i5? Maybe if it isn't, maybe the older phones could 
sort like that?
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


That is still under eMail though, why it comes after contacts I don't know,
I only know it effected my eMail.
Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I didn't find anything in there. The closest to anything was:

sort contacts by first/ last or last/first

but I saw no E-Mail sort anywhere. If somebody really does find it, I'd like
that.

Thanks,

Brenda

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From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It can be done, I have done it, I am thinking it is in settings, but I may
be wrong.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


You are wrong it can't be done at all.

On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account. I
 don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are we 
all using the i5?

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
are listed in the Contacts app.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
Well I changed mine to last  to first, and my contacts are listed 
alphabetically.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: meadowlar...@cox.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I thought that only sorted contacts. Am I wrong here? There's one part that
says:

sort order display:

and another sort order contacts

Both of mine are sorted by first/last

I'll sure look, though.

No, that only sorts first andlast names of contacts, and the order
of how you see them. Sorry about that.

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
sort order

Glenn
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From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

Thanks and be blessed.
On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: anyone know of a good DVD ripper for mountain lion?

2013-05-14 Thread Esther
Hi Courtney,

Ripit basically rips the whole dvd to a .dvdmedia file on disk.  You then have 
to use an app like Handbrake or DVDRemaster to do your extraction.  You and 
Michael will have to experiment to check whether these apps do what you want. 
There are a lot of list members who maintain large video collections who may be 
able to make suggestions.  Michael should be able to use DVDRemaster to backup 
encrypted DVDs that he ripped using either Ripit or Mac DVD Ripper Pro, but 
I've not used Mac DVD Ripper Pro myself.  Maybe some other forum member can 
chime in.  I think some of them tested Mac DVD Ripper Pro along with 
DVDRemaster when both apps were part of a Metakine bundle sale as a Macupdate 
promo for one week last September.  I haven't come across any bundle deals like 
that this year.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On May 14, 2013, at 3:57 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 With mac dvd ripper pro, can you have it rip in any format? I downloaded the 
 demo version, but I'm not seeing a place where I can choose what format I 
 want my output file in. Am I missing something, or is there not a way to 
 change this?
 Courtney
 
 
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hello Michael,
 
 There are two DVD ripping programs that you might try under Mountain Lion: 
 Ripit by the Little App Factory and Mac DVD Ripper Pro.  Up until July 2012, 
 Metakine, the developer of DVDRemaster 8 (which used to be called 
 DVDRemaster Pro), used to make available from their web site for free,  an 
 open source program name FairMount that would handle decryption.  However, 
 they sold the rights to FairMount to the company that now makes Mac DVD 
 Ripper Pro.  The free FairMount program by itself won't work under Mountain 
 Lion, nor will Handbrake with VLC, to get past decryption.  This was 
 discussed on list last September, and is in the archives.
 
 Both of the above programs have free trial downloads.  You can find then a 
 the MacUpdate site or at the developer's web site. (I generally Google the  
 name of an app along with MacUpdate to find the page.)
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On May 13, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey,
 i would use handbrake but it's not great on ML and it can't brake a lot 
 of incription.
 On 14/05/2013, at 12:16 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No. I use avi files.  and confert them to mp3 if I want the video out 
 which I do normally. 99 gigs of avi files turned in to 27 gigs over 
 night. lol. Yeah I really don't' use dvds anymore.
 
 What you could do though is use hand brake to rip to mp4 then use easy 
 music converter to take the audio out and turn them in to mp3 files or 
 what ever files you want.
 
 If you want all the tracks of the dvd in separate files add them to 
 the queue. It's been a long time since I have used hand brake so I 
 can't remember the key stroke anymore, but it does work and work very 
 very well.
 
 Take care.
 
 On May 12, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hello listers,
 i'm wondering if anyone would know of a good DVD ripper for 
 mountain lion? i had a play with DVD remaster but i want to back up 
 a DVD i brought an it can't rip it because of incription.
 thanks for any help.
 Michael

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread John Panarese
   No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and 
Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts are 
displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.  This 
doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the 
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts 
 are listed in the Contacts app.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at 
 the bottom. lol!
 
 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order
 
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.
 
 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:
 
 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your 
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.
 
 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the 
 options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
Yes, I have the 5.
I don't think the phone version makes a difference, but different carriers 
might make a difference.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: meadowlar...@cox.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are we
all using the i5?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
Glenn
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From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
are listed in the Contacts app.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is not 
there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
Glenn

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and 
Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts are 
displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first. 
This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.


 Take Care

 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort 
 to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread John Panarese
   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is 
nothing in the settings to do this.  


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is not 
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
   No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and 
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts are 
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first. 
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
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 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
  I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!
 
 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order
 
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.
 
 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:
 
 You are wrong it can't be done at all.
 
 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.
 
 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort 
 to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?
 
 Take care and thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlar...@cox.net
Okay, then, not sure why this isn't showing up.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Yes, I have the 5.
 I don't think the phone version makes a difference, but different carriers 
 might make a difference.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: meadowlar...@cox.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are we
 all using the i5?
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.
 
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread John Panarese
   I just took another look.  I don't see anything obvious, which is not to say 
it doesn't exist.  I would assume there would have to be a way.  I have an 
iPhone 5 as well, btw.


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On May 14, 2013, at 11:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net meadowlar...@cox.net 
wrote:

 Okay, then, not sure why this isn't showing up.
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Yes, I have the 5.
 I don't think the phone version makes a difference, but different carriers 
 might make a difference.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: meadowlar...@cox.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are we
 all using the i5?
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
  I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.
 
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlar...@cox.net
If there is, I haven't seen it.

Take care,

Brenda

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Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 9:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is 
 nothing in the settings to do this.  
 
 
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is not 
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
  No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and 
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts are 
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first. 
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.
 
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
I use POP3 settings, and I am on Verizon, in case that may make a 
difference.
Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I just took another look.  I don't see anything obvious, which is not to 
say it doesn't exist.  I would assume there would have to be a way.  I have 
an iPhone 5 as well, btw.


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On May 14, 2013, at 11:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net meadowlar...@cox.net 
wrote:

 Okay, then, not sure why this isn't showing up.

 Take care,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 14, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Yes, I have the 5.
 I don't think the phone version makes a difference, but different 
 carriers
 might make a difference.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: meadowlar...@cox.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are 
 we
 all using the i5?

 Take care,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
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 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.


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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
I got tired of the thread, and I went into the app, and found the setting.
You need to back out of all folders, and you will find edit at the top, 
and open that, and you will find reorder account-name and that is where 
you change it.
HTH.
Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


If there is, I haven't seen it.

Take care,

Brenda

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On May 14, 2013, at 9:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is 
 nothing in the settings to do this.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is 
 not
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn

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 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts 
 are
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
I have mine from first to last and they go alphabetically by first name. But 
it doesn't effect my mail, somehow.

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


Well I changed mine to last  to first, and my contacts are listed
alphabetically.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: meadowlar...@cox.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I thought that only sorted contacts. Am I wrong here? There's one part that
says:

sort order display:

and another sort order contacts

Both of mine are sorted by first/last

I'll sure look, though.

No, that only sorts first andlast names of contacts, and the order
of how you see them. Sorry about that.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
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From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
sort order

Glenn
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From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

Thanks and be blessed.
On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
No, it doesn't.

Take care,

Brenda

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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and 
Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts are 
displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first. 
This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
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 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort 
 to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
Well, I think you and I might be on the same carrier. I'm on verizon.

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


Yes, I have the 5.
I don't think the phone version makes a difference, but different carriers
might make a difference.
Glenn
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From: meadowlar...@cox.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are we
all using the i5?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
Glenn
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From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
are listed in the Contacts app.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
I have't seen any sort order in the e-mail app. That's where I looked first. 
There seems to be no way of doing that there.

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is not
there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
Glenn

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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts are
displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.
This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort
 to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
I don't see it there either. Maybe there's something I don't know about 
there, but so far as I can tell, there's nothing that I can see about that.

Take care,

Brenda

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Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is 
nothing in the settings to do this.


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On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is 
 not
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn

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 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts 
 are
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
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 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah I mut have missed it as I like my mail sorted in newest to oldest at
 the bottom. lol!

 Take care.
 On May 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 It is in settings, under mail, and go down past contacts, and it 
 says:
 sort order

 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 OH darn! I thought there was a way to do it.  Well, I tried. . lol.

 Thanks and be blessed.
 On May 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com 
 wrote:

 You are wrong it can't be done at all.

 On 15/05/2013 01:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Try looking in settings, mail contacts and calendars. then your
 account.
 I don't ever recall seeing a way to do this though. I could be wrong
 though.

 Take care
 On May 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all. Subject says it all. I can find nowhere where I can sort
 to
 see
 my oldest E-Mails first. Where on the iPhone5 can we change the
 options?

 Take care and thanks,

 Brenda

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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
If somebody solves this unsolved Mystery, I'll be happy for that.

Thanks.

Take care,

Brenda

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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I just took another look.  I don't see anything obvious, which is not to 
say it doesn't exist.  I would assume there would have to be a way.  I have 
an iPhone 5 as well, btw.


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On May 14, 2013, at 11:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net meadowlar...@cox.net 
wrote:

 Okay, then, not sure why this isn't showing up.

 Take care,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 14, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Yes, I have the 5.
 I don't think the phone version makes a difference, but different 
 carriers
 might make a difference.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: meadowlar...@cox.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are 
 we
 all using the i5?

 Take care,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
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 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.


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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Glenn
Oops, that is for moving it with regard to the other folders.
Oh well, I'll keep looking.
Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


If there is, I haven't seen it.

Take care,

Brenda

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Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 9:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is 
 nothing in the settings to do this.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is 
 not
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn

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 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts 
 are
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
Iuse Verizon, too, but it doesn't matter so much in my iCloud account, or 
rightn ow, not so much in my gmail account, but in my cable network's 
account, is where I really need the sort order. Could it possibly have 
something to do with that? I'm on Verizon, too. The particular account that 
I'm talking about is a pop3 account, and I have it set to leave mail ons 
erver, because the phone, rightn ow, is not my primary way to answer and 
read E-Mail. When it is, I probably will change that setting.

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I use POP3 settings, and I am on Verizon, in case that may make a
difference.
Glenn
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From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


   I just took another look.  I don't see anything obvious, which is not to
say it doesn't exist.  I would assume there would have to be a way.  I have
an iPhone 5 as well, btw.


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On May 14, 2013, at 11:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net meadowlar...@cox.net
wrote:

 Okay, then, not sure why this isn't showing up.

 Take care,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 14, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Yes, I have the 5.
 I don't think the phone version makes a difference, but different
 carriers
 might make a difference.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: meadowlar...@cox.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 I seriously now am wondering if it has to do with versions of phones? Are
 we
 all using the i5?

 Take care,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:20 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 It is not, because my contacts are sorted alphabetically, and in the
 settings where I mentioned, I have it set to show newest at the top.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:02 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  I don't think that is for Mail.  I think that is for how your contacts
 are listed in the Contacts app.


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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
Hey, alright, then. Going to follow the direction.

Thanks.

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I got tired of the thread, and I went into the app, and found the setting.
You need to back out of all folders, and you will find edit at the top,
and open that, and you will find reorder account-name and that is where
you change it.
HTH.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


If there is, I haven't seen it.

Take care,

Brenda

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Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 9:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is
 nothing in the settings to do this.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is
 not
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn

 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts
 are
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Waitk if you back out of your email inboxes, I don't see anything that says to 
change the order of mail. when you click your account, you only see the inboxes 
and folders. no way to change the order. I'm slightly confused.

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 8:29 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hey, alright, then. Going to follow the direction.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:18 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 I got tired of the thread, and I went into the app, and found the setting.
 You need to back out of all folders, and you will find edit at the top,
 and open that, and you will find reorder account-name and that is where
 you change it.
 HTH.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: meadowlar...@cox.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 If there is, I haven't seen it.
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 9:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
  There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is
 nothing in the settings to do this.
 
 
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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is
 not
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn
 
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 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5
 
 
 No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts
 are
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.
 
 
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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
Okay, yeah, it changes the account order, but how do you change the order of 
the boxes? And, how do you change theorder of themessages inside the boxes? 
I mainly want to see the order of the messages inside the inbox changed, for 
example.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


I got tired of the thread, and I went into the app, and found the setting.
You need to back out of all folders, and you will find edit at the top,
and open that, and you will find reorder account-name and that is where
you change it.
HTH.
Glenn
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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


If there is, I haven't seen it.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 9:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is
 nothing in the settings to do this.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is
 not
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn

 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts
 are
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
Yeah, cool, but that was some neat info to have.

Thanks,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


Oops, that is for moving it with regard to the other folders.
Oh well, I'll keep looking.
Glenn
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Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


If there is, I haven't seen it.

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 9:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote:

   There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is
 nothing in the settings to do this.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is
 not
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn

 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


  No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts
 are
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 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5

2013-05-14 Thread meadowlark77
Yeah, that's right. I liked that because i let the accounts show up in 
alphabetical order, but not for the folders.

Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


Waitk if you back out of your email inboxes, I don't see anything that says 
to change the order of mail. when you click your account, you only see the 
inboxes and folders. no way to change the order. I'm slightly confused.

Take care.
On May 14, 2013, at 8:29 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hey, alright, then. Going to follow the direction.

 Thanks.

 Take care,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:18 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 I got tired of the thread, and I went into the app, and found the setting.
 You need to back out of all folders, and you will find edit at the top,
 and open that, and you will find reorder account-name and that is where
 you change it.
 HTH.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: meadowlar...@cox.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:09 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 If there is, I haven't seen it.

 Take care,

 Brenda

 mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 14, 2013, at 9:57 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:

  There is probably a way of doing so in the Mail app itself.  There is
 nothing in the settings to do this.


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 On May 14, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 All I know is that I did change the sort order of my eMail, and if it is
 not
 there, then it is in the eMail app itself.
 Glenn

 - Original Message - 
 From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:50 PM
 Subject: Re: can't we sort E-Mail in ascending order on the iPhone5


 No, that has nothing to do with alphabetically.  In Mail, Contacts and
 Calendars passed the contact is last or first meaning how your contacts
 are
 displayed in the contacts app.  So, last name first or first name first.
 This doesn't effect your Mail inbox order.


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Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-14 Thread Esther

On May 14, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Esther wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 The new version 2 update of the Prizmo iOS OCR app is out, and the 
 developers, Creaceed, have put this app on sale as part of its launch. Prizmo 
 2 is a free update for anyone who already bought the Prizmo iOS app.  The app 
 normally lists for $9.99 but may be purchased for $5.99 for a limited time:
 • Prizmo - Scanning, OCR, and Speech (on sale for $5.99) by Creaceed
 https://itunes.apple.com/app/prizmo/id366791896?mt=8

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Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-14 Thread Esther
Hi All,

Sorry for the last post that only clipped the price and URL information of 
version 2 of the Prizmo app.  I meant to add a few other enthusiastic comments. 
 Not only is it easier to do an OCR, because if VoiceOver is on, and the page 
size has been selected, the app will actually tell you when you are too far to 
the left or right or need to move your camera, but you can export the OCR 
results in either PDF or text and use the open in function for compatible 
apps.  Since I have VoiceDream reader, I can open the exported text in that 
app, and to go along with Prizmo's support of different languages, I can read 
the text in InfoVox voices for different languages. Also, although I'm not 
using this facility, you can adjust the font size of the text that you've 
exported either as PDF or Text format when you read in VoiceDream Reader, so 
this is really cool if you're a low-vision user.

So to follow up on my original post, if you've been sent scanned PDF images of 
documents from some bulk email distribution copying machine, you can read that 
perfectly well with the Prizmo app -- even on iOS devices without good cameras 
like the earlier iPod Touch models or earlier generation iPads.  And the export 
function works to put text into Dropbox, too. Plus you can store these 
documents in VoiceDream Reader, and read multiple language outputs, and use 
large fonts and highlighting.

Since Prizmo supports a whole set of new languages, you could probably even use 
this to read documents in some languages without supported voices, by copying 
the OCR text results to clipboard, and pasting into a translating app like 
Google Translate just to us the voice support for reading other languages.  I 
think someone asked about Hebrew voice support on the Mac, and that's one of 
the text languages Prizmo can OCR, and that Google Translate can read aloud.  
I'll have to fool around with the Russian language download for Prizmo and try 
it out.

Cheers,

Esther  
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