Re: Manually putting music on IPhone using Windows

2009-08-05 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi Kim,

Here's how to put music on an iPod manually. I assume the same steps  
would work in Windows, though I don't know for certain because I don't  
have an iPhone.

1. Select the tracks you want to copy.

2. Type control-C to copy them to the clipboard.

3. Focus on the iPod's name in the Source list, where Music, Podcasts,  
etc. are listed.

4. Type Control-V to paste. If that doesn't work, choose Paste from  
the Edit menu.

HTH,
Anna


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Re: fn key question

2009-08-05 Thread Joe Quinn
but, does the function keys control hardware settings when you first turn on 
the Mac after a fresh install, or does it control hardware? thanks...

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  windows key f5 turns vo on/


  On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:


I've got my Mac mini finally, but had to get a windows keyboard cause of the
fact that my apple keyboard's gone missing or something... anyway, I wanna
know if there's any key, any one at all, on the windows key taht will
substitute for the FN key? which is what I may have to press to get voice
over initialized for the first time... thanks for any help ya can give.







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Re: fn key question

2009-08-05 Thread Charlie Doremus
windows key f5 turns vo on/

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:

>
> I've got my Mac mini finally, but had to get a windows keyboard cause of
> the
> fact that my apple keyboard's gone missing or something... anyway, I wanna
> know if there's any key, any one at all, on the windows key taht will
> substitute for the FN key? which is what I may have to press to get voice
> over initialized for the first time... thanks for any help ya can give.
>
>
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fn key question

2009-08-05 Thread Joe Quinn

I've got my Mac mini finally, but had to get a windows keyboard cause of the 
fact that my apple keyboard's gone missing or something... anyway, I wanna 
know if there's any key, any one at all, on the windows key taht will 
substitute for the FN key? which is what I may have to press to get voice 
over initialized for the first time... thanks for any help ya can give.


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Re: Macports GUI questions

2009-08-05 Thread Barry Hadder

I just downloaded it out of curiosity.
I'm able to hear things spoken in the name table, but it sounds like  
gibberish.  However, when I select something I can hear names of  
packages in the other table.  Which update are you running?  update  
selected, or update all?

I would like to say that this is what I don't like about guis.  It  
seems to me that update is running the upgrade command which can be a  
little dangerous of it isn't run right.  I don't know exactly what it  
is doing.


On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:56 PM, John J Herzog wrote:

>
> Hi
> Porticus is not running that command at startup. I am going into the
> ports menu, and clicking update. I did this, because I cannot see
> anything in the tables or list views when I do not run this command.
> In other words, when I start the program, it does not list any ports/
> software available to me. Furthermore, I don't see any other option
> for enabling such a list.
> Any other ideas, since hitting update is incorect?
>
> John
>
> On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It sounds like Porticus is running the command "port upgrade  
>> outdated"
>> when it is started.  There used to be a bug in Macports where if you
>> ran that command and nothing was out of date, it would give that
>> message.  I thought that it had been fixed though.
>>
>> I've never used Porticus.  Does it close down after that message?
>> Sounds to me like you just need to get it to stop running that  
>> command
>> at start-up.  You might also check your version of Macports by  
>> running
>> "sudo port -d selfupdate".  I'm assuming that Porticus is just a
>> graphical front for Macports.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:20 PM, John J Herzog wrote:
>>
>>> Hi listers,
>>> I am looking for an accessible GUI to macports. Has anybody had any
>>> luck with porticus? It sounds like the most sophisticated interface
>>> out there, but when I try running it, I get the following error.
>>> Port command started with PID 526
>>> Error: No ports found
>>> Executing: /opt/local/bin/port upgrade outdated
>>>
>>> Does anybody know what this means and how to correct it?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> John
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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RE: Manually putting music on IPhone using Windows

2009-08-05 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi Kim,

I don't think you can.  Or at least I wasn't able to do it, and I have heard
the same from others.  Are you using JAWS as your screen-reader?  If yes,
one suggestion I can make is that you give it a go with Window-Eyes or
System Access.  I heard from someone at apple that there are known problems
with JAWS and ITunes.  They say that FS is working on them, but who knows.

Sorry I don't have better news.
Good luck,
Donna

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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Manually putting music on IPhone using Windows
> 
> 
> Hi everybody
> 
> I am using the Windows version of ITunes, and can't seem to figure out
> how
> to manually add music to my phone.  I don't want all the music I have
> on my
> phone, so have told ITunes that I want to manually add songs myself.
> The
> only problem is, I can't figure out how to do that.
> 
> Thanks
> Kim
> 
> 
> > 
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Re: Macports GUI questions

2009-08-05 Thread John J Herzog

Hi
Porticus is not running that command at startup. I am going into the  
ports menu, and clicking update. I did this, because I cannot see  
anything in the tables or list views when I do not run this command.  
In other words, when I start the program, it does not list any ports/ 
software available to me. Furthermore, I don't see any other option  
for enabling such a list.
Any other ideas, since hitting update is incorect?

John

On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> It sounds like Porticus is running the command "port upgrade outdated"
> when it is started.  There used to be a bug in Macports where if you
> ran that command and nothing was out of date, it would give that
> message.  I thought that it had been fixed though.
>
> I've never used Porticus.  Does it close down after that message?
> Sounds to me like you just need to get it to stop running that command
> at start-up.  You might also check your version of Macports by running
> "sudo port -d selfupdate".  I'm assuming that Porticus is just a
> graphical front for Macports.
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:20 PM, John J Herzog wrote:
>
>> Hi listers,
>> I am looking for an accessible GUI to macports. Has anybody had any
>> luck with porticus? It sounds like the most sophisticated interface
>> out there, but when I try running it, I get the following error.
>> Port command started with PID 526
>> Error: No ports found
>> Executing: /opt/local/bin/port upgrade outdated
>>
>> Does anybody know what this means and how to correct it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> John
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Macports GUI questions

2009-08-05 Thread Barry Hadder

Hi,

It sounds like Porticus is running the command "port upgrade outdated"  
when it is started.  There used to be a bug in Macports where if you  
ran that command and nothing was out of date, it would give that  
message.  I thought that it had been fixed though.

I've never used Porticus.  Does it close down after that message?   
Sounds to me like you just need to get it to stop running that command  
at start-up.  You might also check your version of Macports by running  
"sudo port -d selfupdate".  I'm assuming that Porticus is just a  
graphical front for Macports.


On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:20 PM, John J Herzog wrote:

> Hi listers,
> I am looking for an accessible GUI to macports. Has anybody had any  
> luck with porticus? It sounds like the most sophisticated interface  
> out there, but when I try running it, I get the following error.
> Port command started with PID 526
> Error: No ports found
> Executing: /opt/local/bin/port upgrade outdated
>
> Does anybody know what this means and how to correct it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John
>
> >


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Manually putting music on IPhone using Windows

2009-08-05 Thread Kim Carmichael

Hi everybody

I am using the Windows version of ITunes, and can't seem to figure out how
to manually add music to my phone.  I don't want all the music I have on my
phone, so have told ITunes that I want to manually add songs myself.  The
only problem is, I can't figure out how to do that.  

Thanks
Kim


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Macports GUI questions

2009-08-05 Thread John J Herzog
Hi listers,
I am looking for an accessible GUI to macports. Has anybody had any  
luck with porticus? It sounds like the most sophisticated interface  
out there, but when I try running it, I get the following error.
Port command started with PID 526
Error: No ports found
Executing: /opt/local/bin/port upgrade outdated

Does anybody know what this means and how to correct it?

Thanks in advance,

John 
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Re: Keyboard Peoblem

2009-08-05 Thread Barry Hadder

Sounds like you have mouse keys turned on.  Try hitting the option  
five times.  You can also turn them off in universal access/mouse and  
trackpad.

Sorry if you've all ready tried this, but that's sure what it sounds  
like so I decided to mention it in case you haven't.
On Aug 5, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> All, I posted this to another list and must have stumped the
> geniuses.  First let me explain my setup.  I have one of the new
> MacBook Pro 15-inch models.  I generally use an external keyboard
> since I don't always need my machine for portable purposes.  The other
> day I tried using the MBP's keyboard and and realized that all of the
> letters, numbers, spacebar, and caps lock keys do not work.  Now
> before you say hardware, it is not hardware related.  I have a test
> account and 9 out of 10 times I can log into this account and
> everything works as expected. If I log into my own account first, then
> I can't use the MBP's keyboard to log into any other account.  Now the
> weird part is the external keyboard works perfectly and is not
> affected by whatever the hell is going on.  I tried an archive and
> install with no success, I have booted from another Leopard disk and
> it works fine, I even just did the upgrade to 10.5.8, and this had no
> affect on my issue.  I believe there is some software that is causing
> the problem, but I have not located anything that has not already been
> there and this is a new issue.  If anyone has any thoughts, it would
> be appreciated.  I only installed an upgrade to Dragon Burn and a
> trial of Cocktail, which I removed, but do not believe this is the
> issue.  I also did install a copy of ABBYY FineReader and I could
> certainly remove from my system, but again, I don't think this is the
> problem.  There is something being loaded when I log into the system
> and seems to have an impact system-wide in that I have to login
> first.  I could easily rebuild the system, but would prefer to avoid
> doing this if at all possible or I'm going to have to run out and find
> a firewire 800 drive.  Migrating all of my data would be such a
> painful process since it would take quite a while. :)
>
> THanks,
>
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Re: Keyboard Peoblem

2009-08-05 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

Try renameing your Library folder to Library.save and see if that  
solves the issue. Library has your preference settings, your Mail  
items and lots of other sutff. Depending on your patience and how much  
your system goes nuts, you could either duplicate the Library and then  
start taking out folders or you could work the other way around. I  
would suggest logging in / out after any changes to the folder though.

Jon

On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> All, I posted this to another list and must have stumped the
> geniuses.  First let me explain my setup.  I have one of the new
> MacBook Pro 15-inch models.  I generally use an external keyboard
> since I don't always need my machine for portable purposes.  The other
> day I tried using the MBP's keyboard and and realized that all of the
> letters, numbers, spacebar, and caps lock keys do not work.  Now
> before you say hardware, it is not hardware related.  I have a test
> account and 9 out of 10 times I can log into this account and
> everything works as expected. If I log into my own account first, then
> I can't use the MBP's keyboard to log into any other account.  Now the
> weird part is the external keyboard works perfectly and is not
> affected by whatever the hell is going on.  I tried an archive and
> install with no success, I have booted from another Leopard disk and
> it works fine, I even just did the upgrade to 10.5.8, and this had no
> affect on my issue.  I believe there is some software that is causing
> the problem, but I have not located anything that has not already been
> there and this is a new issue.  If anyone has any thoughts, it would
> be appreciated.  I only installed an upgrade to Dragon Burn and a
> trial of Cocktail, which I removed, but do not believe this is the
> issue.  I also did install a copy of ABBYY FineReader and I could
> certainly remove from my system, but again, I don't think this is the
> problem.  There is something being loaded when I log into the system
> and seems to have an impact system-wide in that I have to login
> first.  I could easily rebuild the system, but would prefer to avoid
> doing this if at all possible or I'm going to have to run out and find
> a firewire 800 drive.  Migrating all of my data would be such a
> painful process since it would take quite a while. :)
>
> THanks,
>
> >


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Keyboard Peoblem

2009-08-05 Thread Scott Howell

All, I posted this to another list and must have stumped the  
geniuses.  First let me explain my setup.  I have one of the new  
MacBook Pro 15-inch models.  I generally use an external keyboard  
since I don't always need my machine for portable purposes.  The other  
day I tried using the MBP's keyboard and and realized that all of the  
letters, numbers, spacebar, and caps lock keys do not work.  Now  
before you say hardware, it is not hardware related.  I have a test  
account and 9 out of 10 times I can log into this account and  
everything works as expected. If I log into my own account first, then  
I can't use the MBP's keyboard to log into any other account.  Now the  
weird part is the external keyboard works perfectly and is not  
affected by whatever the hell is going on.  I tried an archive and  
install with no success, I have booted from another Leopard disk and  
it works fine, I even just did the upgrade to 10.5.8, and this had no  
affect on my issue.  I believe there is some software that is causing  
the problem, but I have not located anything that has not already been  
there and this is a new issue.  If anyone has any thoughts, it would  
be appreciated.  I only installed an upgrade to Dragon Burn and a  
trial of Cocktail, which I removed, but do not believe this is the  
issue.  I also did install a copy of ABBYY FineReader and I could  
certainly remove from my system, but again, I don't think this is the  
problem.  There is something being loaded when I log into the system  
and seems to have an impact system-wide in that I have to login  
first.  I could easily rebuild the system, but would prefer to avoid  
doing this if at all possible or I'm going to have to run out and find  
a firewire 800 drive.  Migrating all of my data would be such a  
painful process since it would take quite a while. :)

THanks,

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10.5.8 fixes my #1 annoyance with Safari.

2009-08-05 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

OK, I have finished the upgrade. I did just one check and that was  
worth it for me.

The bug where if you are in the toolbar of a Safari 4.02  page, and  
bring up the item chooser to select a web  element. Then when chosen  
the web element is not in the Voice Over cursor is fixed.

I haven't broght up my list of complaints to test against, but this  
alone is worth the upgrade for me.

Jon


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Re: List topic reminders (revision) Please read!…

2009-08-05 Thread Jim Stevenson

Hi.

Any idea what happened to your subject line?

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Thanks much again as always.
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the new features in 10.5.8

2009-08-05 Thread william lomas

Hi go here for the information on what is new in 10.5.8 for 
those  
interested:

http://www.macworld.com/article/142128/2009/08/osx_1058.htmlt?lsrc=twt_macworld



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Re: new 10.5.8

2009-08-05 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
One thing that might be immediately usable is:
Improves compatibility with some external USB hard drives.

There were folks out there with issues on their reader's not showing  
up as disks.

I will be loading this update in the next half hour.

Jon

On Aug 5, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

>
> Not everyone will necessarily upgrade, upgrade immediately, or has  
> an Intel machine.  Leopard will continue to be the OS for everyone  
> running a Power PC Mac.  There are lots of reasons to continue to  
> support Leopard, especially when it comes to these sorts of  
> stability, security, and compatibility releases like 10.5.8.
>
> Apple still releases security patches for Tiger from time to time,  
> including one today.
>
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>>
>>  hi I hear mac os 10.5.8 is out
>> why bother when SL is so close to release?
>> :)
>> Not sure if anything new for us in it i will just wait for SL now I  
>> thik
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Re: new 10.5.8

2009-08-05 Thread Josh de Lioncourt

Not everyone will necessarily upgrade, upgrade immediately, or has an  
Intel machine.  Leopard will continue to be the OS for everyone  
running a Power PC Mac.  There are lots of reasons to continue to  
support Leopard, especially when it comes to these sorts of stability,  
security, and compatibility releases like 10.5.8.

Apple still releases security patches for Tiger from time to time,  
including one today.

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On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:29 PM, william lomas wrote:

>
>   hi I hear mac os 10.5.8 is out
> why bother when SL is so close to release?
> :)
> Not sure if anything new for us in it i will just wait for SL now I  
> thik
>
>
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new 10.5.8

2009-08-05 Thread william lomas

hi I hear mac os 10.5.8 is out
why bother when SL is so close to release?
:)
Not sure if anything new for us in it i will just wait for SL now I thik


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Finereader manual

2009-08-05 Thread william lomas

hi is there an accessible manual for finereader express 
for amc,  
that I can read before I purchase?
I just need to know
•if i scan a color docuent like a magazine how do i tell the program  
this?

•are results saved to files or do they show up on screen?

Will


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Question about iphone maps

2009-08-05 Thread Christian

Hi all,
Since the Iphone has a GPS and I have heared that the maps are accessible, is 
this correct?
If so, how much info can you get?
Will you be able to find out where you are and so?
Many thanks,
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Re: Book Resource

2009-08-05 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi Les,

You're welcome. My mother-in-law switched to a Mac a couple of weeks  
after I did, and she recommended the book. I'm so glad she did.  
There's supposed to be a Snow Leopard edition out in October; since  
it's an O'Reilly book and O'Reilly lets Bookshare publish all their  
stuff, I think there's a good chance that version will be available  
soon after it comes out in print.

Best,
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Re: Anyone tried Pro Tools or Propellerhead's Reason

2009-08-05 Thread Scott Chesworth

Hi Romack,

There is no usable access to either app with VO currently.  Digidesign
have shown some good intentions (you can read a fairly recent message
from David Gibbons at Digi if you visit www.protoolspetition.org) but
those wheels are slow turning.

Hth, and sorry to be the bringer of bad news.

Scott

On 8/5/09, Romack  wrote:
>
> With minimal vision and ZoomText, I used both pieces of software on
> the Windows OS - farily successfully. Unfortunately, I lost most of my
> vision, and no longer use either on my Windows-based machine. It's not
> a "strike" against the Mac if these two are not Voiceover accessible,
> but was wondering if anyone has tried either software? Any success?
> I'd love to hear anyone who has information on their use with
> Voiceover.
>
> Thanks,
> romack
>
> Twitter: @justinromack
> Web: www.justinromack.com
> E-mail: jrom...@gmail.com
> >
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Anyone tried Pro Tools or Propellerhead's Reason

2009-08-05 Thread Romack

With minimal vision and ZoomText, I used both pieces of software on
the Windows OS - farily successfully. Unfortunately, I lost most of my
vision, and no longer use either on my Windows-based machine. It's not
a "strike" against the Mac if these two are not Voiceover accessible,
but was wondering if anyone has tried either software? Any success?
I'd love to hear anyone who has information on their use with
Voiceover.

Thanks,
romack

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Re: repost command for downloading stuff directly?

2009-08-05 Thread Dan Eickmeier

Hi hank, try option-enter
On Aug 4, 2009, at 5:06 AM, hank smith wrote:

>
> hello what is the command to download stuff from sarafi directly?
> the other command besides vo shift m?
> it was just reposted I accidently deleeted it.
> Hank
>
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Re: Another question about iphone

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Blouch
I would add some caveats and some good things.

The map itself is not accessible but the list of directions and other UI 
items is. The only weirdness is that the buttons to switch between 
driving, walking and public transportation routing is only presented 
above the map. Once you switch to List view you're stuck with whatever 
was selected on maps. So even though the map has 'pins' for start and 
end and pointers for the parts you walk vs get on the bus or transfer 
buses, none of these icons speak on the map. Not a big deal but it would 
be nice to have it read roads and icons as you touch them. Another bit 
in the map not on the list is with public transportation you can get 
transit times, schedules and costs. So if it's 12:00 AM it will list my 
bus departing at 12:35AM and that it costs $.50 and the next available 
time is 1:35PM. The button for this info is only available in the map 
view. It is nice being able to route from "here" with the GPS.

CB

Christian wrote:
> Hi,
> OK, that's great. How much information can you get from it?
> Is it possible to tell where you are?
>
>
> On 2009-07-31 at 22:36 Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>   
>> yes Christian, it is. :)
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Christian wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> the maps application that is on the phone, is that accessible with  
>>> VoiceOver?
>>> I suppose it is.
>>> many thanks,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> 
>
>
>
> >
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Re: Steve Ballmer calls Apple's Mac growth a "rounding error"

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Blouch
Those particular mule muffins is what forced Microsoft to change their 
ads after being contacted by Apple about the stale (higher) prices for 
Macs shown in the ads.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/24/after_apple_legal_threats_microsoft_quietly_changes_ads.html

CB

John Panarese wrote:
> Oh, yes, another myth.  The laptop hunters ads are so full of mule  
> muffins.  Compare hardware and software, again.  Yeah, you can buy a  
> $500 Windows laptop, but you can buy a pair of clippers instead of a  
> weed whacker too.
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Managing Director
> Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
> 9 Nolan Court
> Hauppauge, NY 11788
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>
> AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS FOR PORTSET SYSTEMS LTD, COMPSOLUTIONS VA,  
> PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS,  
> DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED
>
>
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>
> On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Chris Polk wrote:
>
>   
>> lol, true
>> my mbp 2.5 core 2 with 4 gb of ram.
>> dell wants $2100 for the same specs in a xpsm1330
>>
>> then a screen reader on top of that would be another 8 to 1000, around
>> 3 grand.
>> 1399 for a mbp, its got me everytime
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2009, at 4:05 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>
>> 
>>>   In addition to this, I believe that I also read somewhere that if
>>> you actually compared Apple and PC higher end systems, such as Dells,
>>> the Mac Pro is actually more affordable.  If I can dredge up the
>>> article, I'll post the link, but the author did this with three
>>> different Dell and Mac Pro configurations.  Shortly after reading  
>>> that
>>> article, I spent an evening with my brother and a friend pricing out
>>> systems on the Apple website and comparing prices, and we also found
>>> the Mac Pro to be less expensive when all was said in done,  
>>> especially
>>> if you include the software that comes on Macs.
>>>
>>> Take Care
>>>
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Managing Director
>>> Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
>>> 9 Nolan Court
>>> Hauppauge, NY 11788
>>> Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, t...@optonline.net
>>> Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com
>>>
>>> AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS FOR PORTSET SYSTEMS LTD, COMPSOLUTIONS VA,
>>> PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS,
>>> DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY
>>> IMPAIRED
>>>
>>>
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 And of course your entitled to your opinion, but there are a few
 points you aren't considering.  TO purchase a machine of the same
 quality will cost you considerably more than you may have  
 considered.
 Apple does not cut corners on their hardware, they choose  
 components,
 which will deliver the best performance possible even if it costs
 more.  I imagine the cost of software such as the os is included to
 some degree as well.  Lets toss in R&D for the many innovations  
 Apple
 has introduced and will introduce to the market.  YOu can bet there
 is
 always something being worked on or being taken from an idea to a
 concept.  All that does cost money and consider the number of PC
 manufacturers out number Apple, so they will have to charge more I
 imagine do to the shear volume of PCs on the market as compared to
 Macintosh machines.  So, I understand your point, but you should
 consider why their products may be more expensive based on various
 factors.
 On Jul 31, 2009, at 5:25 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:

 
> To be honest, I agree with some of the points in this artical,
> Apples
> hardware is rediculessly pricey. The only time that I have  
> supported
> apple in a hardware fassion is buying an ipod but I can't say  
> that I
> ever intend to purchase one of there computers from them - all the
> macs I have were either given to me or were bought from ebay.
> I just don't see why on earth I should have to shell out a stupid
> amount of money to buy a mac pro when I can build one my self for
> much
> cheaper and with my choice of case and components.
>
> Having said this, I think there doing some ok things with software,
> so
> I've bought things like Ilife and Iwork and will buy logic at some
> point in the future.
>
> On 31/07/2009, John Panarese  wrote:
>   
>>   My apologies for the cross posting and somewhat off topic nature
>> of the post.  However, I think this article really speaks volumes
>> as
>> to why Apple and Microsoft are going in opposite directions.  The
>> perspective of Ballmer has been MS's biggest problem for yea

Re: iphone 3gs and bluetooth connection

2009-08-05 Thread Brian Moore

on the iphone, you have to goto settings  general, network and in there is 
the internet teathering option.  This must be on

ON the mac book, if You have itunes 8.2 it will just work.

Brian.
s
follow me on twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
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From: "Chris Blouch" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: iphone 3gs and bluetooth connection


>A little googling will supply a number of hacky ways to do this but
> native support in the US is limited by ATT.
>
> CB
>
> hank smith wrote:
>> Hello
>> everettposted a podcast on this verry thing
>> I am trying to get the url he shows how to do this
>> On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Tethering is a feature supported in the iPhone 3.0 software that is
>>> enabled (or not) by the carrier. For the US ATT has decided not to
>>> support tethering so I can't try to reproduce the steps here. You
>>> might
>>> try turning on tethering on your iphone and connect via USB to see
>>> if it
>>> pops up as a network connection.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 I was wondering if anyone knew how one can get connected to the
 internet throguh his/her iphone 3gs. I used to have a sony ericsson
 (actually still have it))) 3g with which i connect to the internet.

 I've tried going to the network preferences but the iphone doesn't
 appear in the services lists as the sony does. Is there another way
 IE
 bluetooth to get the connection going? If so, how do you actually get
 the macbook and the iphone to pair up? I went through the connection
 wizard but the iphone which i've turned the bluetooth on doesn't
 appear in the list either.

 Anyone get this too? Or are you all on a cable connection and don't
 need to get on the 3g network for your net stuff? i'm using the 3g
 here because it's the best method for connecting in
 Cambodia///grumps...


>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
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Re: iphone 3gs and bluetooth connection

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Blouch
A little googling will supply a number of hacky ways to do this but 
native support in the US is limited by ATT.

CB

hank smith wrote:
> Hello
> everettposted a podcast on this verry thing
> I am trying to get the url he shows how to do this
> On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>   
>> Tethering is a feature supported in the iPhone 3.0 software that is
>> enabled (or not) by the carrier. For the US ATT has decided not to
>> support tethering so I can't try to reproduce the steps here. You  
>> might
>> try turning on tethering on your iphone and connect via USB to see  
>> if it
>> pops up as a network connection.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Yuma Decaux wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone knew how one can get connected to the
>>> internet throguh his/her iphone 3gs. I used to have a sony ericsson
>>> (actually still have it))) 3g with which i connect to the internet.
>>>
>>> I've tried going to the network preferences but the iphone doesn't
>>> appear in the services lists as the sony does. Is there another way  
>>> IE
>>> bluetooth to get the connection going? If so, how do you actually get
>>> the macbook and the iphone to pair up? I went through the connection
>>> wizard but the iphone which i've turned the bluetooth on doesn't
>>> appear in the list either.
>>>
>>> Anyone get this too? Or are you all on a cable connection and don't
>>> need to get on the 3g network for your net stuff? i'm using the 3g
>>> here because it's the best method for connecting in
>>> Cambodia///grumps...
>>>
>>>   
>
>
> >
>   

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Re: waiting for my macbook

2009-08-05 Thread Koumanova Rostislava

hi roberto,
let me know if you need some help.
rossy

Il giorno 04/ago/09, alle ore 20:44, Roberto Burceni ha scritto:

>
> Thank you for excellent explanation. Yes  it is my first time with a  
> Mac
> and I am very excite to try this.
> I bought a MacBook Pro in italian language and I hope it is equal to  
> the
> english language. Do you know if the messages of voiceover are  
> localized
> or are in english?
> Thank you and sorry for these simple questions but I am at the  
> beginning
> of the adventure.
> On 04/08/2009 18:24, rayna424 wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I don't know if you have used a Mac before or if this is your first,
>> so just in case you haven't, I'll explain that way.
>>
>> The Apple key is the Command key, located to the left of the space
>> bar. With the Macbook, you'll need to use Function as well. So to  
>> turn
>> on Voiceover after the computer starts up, press Command plus
>> Function, plus F5. The function key is the key on the bottom left
>> corner, 2 keys over from your command key. You will hear "Voiceover
>> on". It's already read to go, no installation of the screenreader
>> necessary.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Rayna
>>
>> Roberto Burceni wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, finally I decided to buy a macbook pro 13.3 inces. I'm  
>>> waiting
>>> it comes here. I have a question for you:
>>> When I will turn on the mac can I start immediately voiceover or  
>>> not?
>>> nfigured or I need to put the dvd into reader?
>>> The system is already configured or I need the dvd?
>>> Thank you for help
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: gesturebased navigation on safari for themac?

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Blouch
I wonder if this will work with external track pads. My test machine is 
a Mac tower with no trackpad and that's where I'd want to give 
SnowLeopard a whirl before making it primary OS on my MacBook. I don't 
trust point zero releases of OSes.

CB

A-Pro Studio wrote:
> To control VoiceOver and Safari with gestures, you will have to wait  
> for Snow Leopard. This is one of the many great features you will find  
> in the new VoiceOver version coming with Snow Leopard in September/ 
> October, a way to control VoiceOver and all your Mac software by using  
> gestures. You can find more info about this in the accessibility pages  
> at
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/accessibility/
>
>
>
> Take care,
> John André
>
>
> Den 5. aug. 2009 kl. 06.32 skrev Yuma Decaux:
>
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen on some sites that safari 4 allows gesture based navigation,
>> but i can't get my hands on it (no pun intended). Is it a feature
>> already available, and how does it present itself? Do i have to go to
>> the safari preferences to activate it, and can i customize my gestures
>> for various tasks i deem natural to trackput input?
>>
>> Whatever it is, i think this is a great feature as my trackput sits
>> there seldom touched except for the random palm brush as i hit the
>> space bar.
>>
>> 
>
>
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Re: CD Burning

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Blouch
I use Disk Copy for that. Read in the whole CD as an image and then 
write it all back out again. Been a while since I did that so post if 
you get stuck and need details.

CB

Mac Cougar wrote:
> Can you make copies of CD'salso?
>
> Steve
> On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi Mac,
>>
>> You can burn CDs with itunes. It works great.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: CD Burning

2009-08-05 Thread Mac Cougar

Can you make copies of CD'salso?

Steve
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> Hi Mac,
>
> You can burn CDs with itunes. It works great.
>
> Best,
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Re: importing outlook express mailboxes to mail? Re: safari book marks folder location?

2009-08-05 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi Anna,

I wasn't aware of Pogue's book. Thanks for posting this resource. I'll  
head off to Bookshare and snag it now.
Best,
Donna
On Aug 5, 2009, at 1:10 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi Hank,
>
> Install Thunderbird on your PC or the Windows side of your Mac, import
> the mail into that, then import from there into Mail. There's a
> detailed discussion of how to do this in David Pogue's book, Switching
> to the Mac, the Missing Manual: Leopard Edition. If you're a Bookshare
> member, you can download this excellent book from them.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
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Re: the advent of audio/tactile games for the VIPs

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Hofstader

Terrific Post.  I'm going to need to reread it before I comment much  
as you present a whole lot of information in a small space.

I would think, though, that instead of a flat map, maybe we mape the  
positions onto a curved space as the slice  of an elipse?  This would  
provide some spatial information, would work well with the current  
location at the center of the slice and would represent a better  
simulation of how humans hear in the forward direction.  Also, some 3D  
plotting will be necessary so as to "project" the map image some bit  
of distance in front of the userso it floats in space like a heads up  
display on a airplane or some automobiles.

We're in house guest mode so my response further may take some time  
but I think you are onto something really cool.

Happy Hacking,
cdh


On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Just as an addendum to this conversation, i was "meditating" of sorts
> about some game theory and the controls of a game app which could be
> ported to a gprs/navigation application. Here goes:
>
> 1 The 3d positional audio used on two vectors of sound propagation.
>
> I will give an example of an RTS game for this concept.
>
> Since i think relating the true distance of a sound from the back or
> the front could be quite daunting, to the least having a high learning
> curve, i was thinking  that spatial references can be laid out on a
> bird's eye view perspective. IE: front and back= top and bottom while
> left and right stay the same.
> If i imagined this as a physical boundary, the x and y axises would be
> quote flattened unquote to y and z axises. So an object at one's back
> at the limit of the set boundary of spatial dimension, the sound would
> be heard at the bottom, or the chin area of the wearer. whilst the
> opposite would be heard at the top of the forehead. left and right
> would retain their relative positions, but the difference would be
> felt when an object is ahead on a diagonal position. That would
> translate to a top/left audio cue and so forth.
> I think of this application or flattening of sound as most of the time
> when we are walking around, we take much less notice of height factors
> as unless we are as taller than basket ball players, we don't often
> have to crouch to walk somewhere.
> So going back to the RTS game, if we have this flat two axis
> representation of space over a map, the one channel whoch would be
> back can be used for, well...background or ambient sounds. Cues would
> be relevant to such things as the type of terrain one is in, etc. And
> the front audio within a central boundary would represent unit
> responses and general game command voice responses.
>
> 2 controls and gestures.
> Taking the rts element to the table, the main advantage paused for
> controls which can be easily accessed without cluttering the actual
> space of the screen would be using the rotor for various menus and
> functions. For instance,
> one finger drag=feel around the game space with audio cues on hitting
> an object or contextual item
> 2 finger dragaround screen to displace the map to the opposite
> direction of the fingers being dragged to explore more of the map
> 3 finger drag for faster scroll of the map area
> 2 finger rotor once tapped on an object for actions choice: patrol,
> attack/ build, etc...Each instance of a double-tap would go one level
> deeper into the contextual menu for choosing for example which
> building to build and the sorts.
> 3 finger rotor for other behavioral actions or quote special unquote  
> abilities.
> 1 finger flick once double tapped on an object slash soldier=
> selecting the next or previous unit
> 2 finger flick= selection of next building
>
> and the list goes on.
>
> I will continue to add to this as i think through the possibilities,
> sort of a diary to myself as well so i can gather all the notes for
> eventually starting the programming part once i get my hands on that
> SDK :)
>
> Hope i'm not a total bore...
>
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Re: the advent of audio/tactile games for the VIPs

2009-08-05 Thread Yuma Decaux

Hi everyone,

Just as an addendum to this conversation, i was "meditating" of sorts
about some game theory and the controls of a game app which could be
ported to a gprs/navigation application. Here goes:

1 The 3d positional audio used on two vectors of sound propagation.

I will give an example of an RTS game for this concept.

Since i think relating the true distance of a sound from the back or
the front could be quite daunting, to the least having a high learning
curve, i was thinking  that spatial references can be laid out on a
bird's eye view perspective. IE: front and back= top and bottom while
left and right stay the same.
If i imagined this as a physical boundary, the x and y axises would be
quote flattened unquote to y and z axises. So an object at one's back
at the limit of the set boundary of spatial dimension, the sound would
be heard at the bottom, or the chin area of the wearer. whilst the
opposite would be heard at the top of the forehead. left and right
would retain their relative positions, but the difference would be
felt when an object is ahead on a diagonal position. That would
translate to a top/left audio cue and so forth.
I think of this application or flattening of sound as most of the time
when we are walking around, we take much less notice of height factors
as unless we are as taller than basket ball players, we don't often
have to crouch to walk somewhere.
So going back to the RTS game, if we have this flat two axis
representation of space over a map, the one channel whoch would be
back can be used for, well...background or ambient sounds. Cues would
be relevant to such things as the type of terrain one is in, etc. And
the front audio within a central boundary would represent unit
responses and general game command voice responses.

2 controls and gestures.
Taking the rts element to the table, the main advantage paused for
controls which can be easily accessed without cluttering the actual
space of the screen would be using the rotor for various menus and
functions. For instance,
one finger drag=feel around the game space with audio cues on hitting
an object or contextual item
2 finger dragaround screen to displace the map to the opposite
direction of the fingers being dragged to explore more of the map
3 finger drag for faster scroll of the map area
2 finger rotor once tapped on an object for actions choice: patrol,
attack/ build, etc...Each instance of a double-tap would go one level
deeper into the contextual menu for choosing for example which
building to build and the sorts.
3 finger rotor for other behavioral actions or quote special unquote abilities.
1 finger flick once double tapped on an object slash soldier=
selecting the next or previous unit
2 finger flick= selection of next building

and the list goes on.

I will continue to add to this as i think through the possibilities,
sort of a diary to myself as well so i can gather all the notes for
eventually starting the programming part once i get my hands on that
SDK :)

Hope i'm not a total bore...

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Re: Group mode? safeway.com, Facebook?

2009-08-05 Thread Bob Hill

Hi all,

I sent a message to accessibility at Apple, asking about the ability  
to switch from DOM to group mode, and they replied saying that that  
will be available in Snow Leopard.

Bob Hill

On Aug 4, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Angel Dockham wrote:

>
> Is there a way to switch between group mode and dom mode easliy like
> through a short cut key or do you have to do it through the utility?
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observations finereader

2009-08-05 Thread william lomas

Hi to all



I noted in the UK that sixty five pounds is the cost for finereader  
pro 9.0 but why is the express which  I assume is a lighter version  
more expensive for the mac?
One would think that a pro version of the software would be more  
expensive?
WIll


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Book Resource

2009-08-05 Thread Les Kriegler

Hi Anna,

Thanks very much for this resource.  I went to bookshare and grabbed it and
will be reading it on my Icon BP.  I noticed there were 2 books, one for
Tiger and one for Leopard which is the one I downloaded.  Sounds like this
will be right up my alley!

Les


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Re: gesturebased navigation on safari for themac?

2009-08-05 Thread william lomas

wish i had a macbook pro now remember it only works for the few who  
have the mbp pro

On 5 Aug 2009, at 08:31, A-Pro Studio wrote:

>
> To control VoiceOver and Safari with gestures, you will have to wait
> for Snow Leopard. This is one of the many great features you will find
> in the new VoiceOver version coming with Snow Leopard in September/
> October, a way to control VoiceOver and all your Mac software by using
> gestures. You can find more info about this in the accessibility pages
> at
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/accessibility/
>
>
>
> Take care,
> John André
>
>
> Den 5. aug. 2009 kl. 06.32 skrev Yuma Decaux:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen on some sites that safari 4 allows gesture based  
>> navigation,
>> but i can't get my hands on it (no pun intended). Is it a feature
>> already available, and how does it present itself? Do i have to go to
>> the safari preferences to activate it, and can i customize my  
>> gestures
>> for various tasks i deem natural to trackput input?
>>
>> Whatever it is, i think this is a great feature as my trackput sits
>> there seldom touched except for the random palm brush as i hit the
>> space bar.
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: gesturebased navigation on safari for themac?

2009-08-05 Thread A-Pro Studio

To control VoiceOver and Safari with gestures, you will have to wait  
for Snow Leopard. This is one of the many great features you will find  
in the new VoiceOver version coming with Snow Leopard in September/ 
October, a way to control VoiceOver and all your Mac software by using  
gestures. You can find more info about this in the accessibility pages  
at
http://www.apple.com/macosx/accessibility/



Take care,
John André


Den 5. aug. 2009 kl. 06.32 skrev Yuma Decaux:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen on some sites that safari 4 allows gesture based navigation,
> but i can't get my hands on it (no pun intended). Is it a feature
> already available, and how does it present itself? Do i have to go to
> the safari preferences to activate it, and can i customize my gestures
> for various tasks i deem natural to trackput input?
>
> Whatever it is, i think this is a great feature as my trackput sits
> there seldom touched except for the random palm brush as i hit the
> space bar.
>
> >


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