Re: ONE QUESTION.

2010-06-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I downloaded directly off the site but can't find it!
On Jun 6, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:

 If it's downloaded from the podcast directly yes you're right it does. But I 
 think if you download directly from the site it winds up in downloads. I 
 don't know why, I tried it with the DVD Remaster podcast, and it wound up in 
 downloads.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Nope it goes in music\itunes media\podcasts I think that's the path anyways.
 
 S
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 That, Alison, would be great if you could do the clip if I got stuck.  I'll 
 try it tomorrow as it's almost 1:30 in the morning!  I did try and download 
 your latest podcast and it said it had downloaded it and I could not see it 
 in my download folder.  That's where I thought everything went to!
 
 Kawal.
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:46 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 I'm sorry I misinterpreted your message. You already know how to attach a 
 file, okay so the only step you have to do is after hitting command shift 
 A, browse to your music folder. Right arrow to expand it and then hit I T 
 for Itunes. Right arrow to expand that and then look for the Itunes media 
 folder. Then select the music folder. You just keep hitting right arrow to 
 expand all the folders. Itunes should have categorized your music by 
 artist, so all your Itunes purchases should be in there. If you get stuck, 
 I'd be happy to demo this in a short audio clip.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 How would I attach a purchased song from my Itune list please Alison?  
 That was what I wanted to do.  I know how to attach a file, but can I 
 send a song from my purchased store list?  My Itune library is not 
 showing in my list of folders nor can I copy the file to my document 
 folder as have tried.  Thanks for telling me about my audible as I will 
 sign up!
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:25 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 I don't think you need to download the Mac version of Audible manager. I 
 think Itunes takes care of it. I have downloaded one book with the Mac, 
 and it plays in Itunes. THis is not to say that you can't transfer it to 
 your Ipod or something.
 
 To attach a file to an E-mail, hit command shift A as in Apple. Then you 
 should be able to browse to where the file is stored on your computer. 
 When you find the file you wish to attach, VO right arrow to choose file 
 and hit VO Space. THat's it, you're done. I hope that helps. Have a 
 great day.
 
 Musically,
 Allison
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I finally purchased my album thanks Will.  Now I have a question.  
 Since I paid for the album, if I were to copy a file and wish to send 
 it a friend, could I?  How would I attach to a message, could I paste 
 it or would that not work?  I've never purchased music as direct 
 downloads, times must be changing as now I can buy things directly and 
 hear them instantly rather than waiting.  I'm also hoping to join 
 Audible but have to download the audible manager for Mac, will be fun!
 
 Kawal. 
 
 
 
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Re: ONE QUESTION.

2010-06-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Thanks for doing the clip.  You can e-mail it to me if you like off list.  I 
really appreciate your help.
On Jun 6, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:

 Hi Kawal,
 
 I will do a short clip of how to attach files from the Itunes folder. Hmm, 
 the podcast is just called DVD Remaster. I downloaded it on my end and it 
 ended up in the downloads folder. There is the download link, and then the 
 following page shows an image. You hit VO shift M on the image and download 
 linked file is one of the choices. When you hit enter on that, it should 
 download it. I had to do it myself to see that this was even possible. Well, 
 have a great day.
 
 Musically,
 Allison
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 That, Alison, would be great if you could do the clip if I got stuck.  I'll 
 try it tomorrow as it's almost 1:30 in the morning!  I did try and download 
 your latest podcast and it said it had downloaded it and I could not see it 
 in my download folder.  That's where I thought everything went to!
 
 Kawal.
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:46 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 I'm sorry I misinterpreted your message. You already know how to attach a 
 file, okay so the only step you have to do is after hitting command shift 
 A, browse to your music folder. Right arrow to expand it and then hit I T 
 for Itunes. Right arrow to expand that and then look for the Itunes media 
 folder. Then select the music folder. You just keep hitting right arrow to 
 expand all the folders. Itunes should have categorized your music by 
 artist, so all your Itunes purchases should be in there. If you get stuck, 
 I'd be happy to demo this in a short audio clip.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 How would I attach a purchased song from my Itune list please Alison?  
 That was what I wanted to do.  I know how to attach a file, but can I send 
 a song from my purchased store list?  My Itune library is not showing in 
 my list of folders nor can I copy the file to my document folder as have 
 tried.  Thanks for telling me about my audible as I will sign up!
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:25 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 I don't think you need to download the Mac version of Audible manager. I 
 think Itunes takes care of it. I have downloaded one book with the Mac, 
 and it plays in Itunes. THis is not to say that you can't transfer it to 
 your Ipod or something.
 
 To attach a file to an E-mail, hit command shift A as in Apple. Then you 
 should be able to browse to where the file is stored on your computer. 
 When you find the file you wish to attach, VO right arrow to choose file 
 and hit VO Space. THat's it, you're done. I hope that helps. Have a great 
 day.
 
 Musically,
 Allison
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I finally purchased my album thanks Will.  Now I have a question.  Since 
 I paid for the album, if I were to copy a file and wish to send it a 
 friend, could I?  How would I attach to a message, could I paste it or 
 would that not work?  I've never purchased music as direct downloads, 
 times must be changing as now I can buy things directly and hear them 
 instantly rather than waiting.  I'm also hoping to join Audible but have 
 to download the audible manager for Mac, will be fun!
 
 Kawal. 
 
 
 
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 kawal_gucuko...@sent.com
 
 (Skype ID):
 
 kawalgucukoglu
 
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 +447905618396
 
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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

2010-06-06 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
I would wait until the new os or the fix or whatever comes out. I honestly 
don't see the point in being able to get loops into a project, since one or 2 
or however many bars the loops are are all we get. Once a loop is in the 
timeline, we can't see it so we can't manipulate it in any way, so i honestly 
don't see the point in this.
I may be stupid, i probably am, but that's how i see it anyway.
/Krister

6 jun 2010 kl. 03.23 skrev clarence griffin:

 I would like to test this out when you get a chance... I am not at all a 
 programmer but I will do my part to help. I don't know if its just better to 
 wait a few days or so for the update though..
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 3:08 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi listers,
 
 I went rapidly through the motion needed for dragging a highlighted loop 
 into the timeline.
 
 Here is the script snippet:
 
 ttell application Extra Suites
 ES mouse down
 ES move mouse to scroll area 2 of window 1 of application Garage Band
 Es mouse up
 end tell
 
 
 I used the Extra suites OSAX extension and found the object and element 
 hierarchy through GUI scripting app UI browser.
 
 Now i am not sure about the syntax standards as there are parenthesys in the 
 UI browser and they might have to be included within the Applescript.
 
 If i get this to work, we can basically save 5 steps in one.
 
 
 If anyone wants to test this out with me, you're welcome to contact me off 
 list
 
 Cheers
 
 Yuma DX®
 
 
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radioshift

2010-06-06 Thread william lomas
hi as I am at work but want to follow the worldcup I would like 
to use radioshift to record a bbc radio station called fivelive. is radioshift 
accessible?

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RE: [bcab] End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Simon Fogarty
Interesting,

 I've got windows 7 on 5 different machines, including vm fusion on my mac
book pro.
 And I only had issues on the first install with the jaws video intercept
not installing correctly.

Other than that, I've had no trouble with windows 7 and jaws playing
together nicely.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 5:17 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [bcab] End of Freedom?

Just to add to this,  this week I inherited a PC that my husband isn't
using.  It's a fairly new computer running Windows 7, and I've been trying
to install JAWS on it since Wednesday, with absolutely no luck at all, and
this has included a one hour call to FS tech support.  In the interim, I've
been running System Access over the internet, just to have some speech on
the machine.  Having had this experience, I would be hard-pressed ever to
recommend JAWS over simply getting a Mac again.  I hope Apple does give FS a
run for their money.  If this is the best FS can do, they deserve to lose
out, whether to Apple, or to a group like Serotek.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 5, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those people
who run Fusion on their Macs.
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com
 Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00
 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com
 Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Colin r. Howard 
 co...@pobox.com
 To: b...@freelists.org; access...@freelists.org; 
 av...@googlegroups.com; ntexpr...@googlegroups.com; 
 jaws...@freelists.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM
 Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 
 Greetings,
 
 I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind 
 Audio List which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or AccessUK
groups.
 
 Ought we to give much credence to this?
 
 I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound.
 
 From: Otto Zamora donttreado...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400
 
 Morning,
 
 In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference 
 Freedom Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw.
 Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on  a 
 flag by an analyst.
 Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising 
 given the economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off 
 some of their division, mainly their JFW area.
 I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that 
 there is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700.
 Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get 
 the package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully 
 accessible web sites, word processing, and E mail.
 all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as 
 individual program.
 ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool 
 indeed for the kind of money they are asking for.
 Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling 
 computers already with speech on board right out of the box and off the
shelf.
 Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that 
 might very well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program.
 Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of 
 JFW, will only work for a short while until the programs controlling 
 the OS, begins to outgrow the application.
 In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to 
 me, was the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by 
 Mr.. Mike Calvo, is very short.
 The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want 
 without real loss. From: Alison Trelfa codamu...@uwclub.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:36:47 +0100
 
 Hello, Otto,
 
 I wonder whether many jaws users would move to another speech 
 program as yet as many of the packages that are not standard 
 probably wouldn't be supported by the out of the box speech. I run 
 Sonar and Sibelius 5.25, both of which are using scripts that have 
 been written by folk who specialise not only in Jaws, but only in 
 the two programs. I suppose those people who only need computers for 
 basic commands may well get away with speech such as you describe, 
 but I don't think that Jaws would just be dismissed out of hand 
 because Freedom is going. I think Jaws has changed hands once before if
I'm not mistaken? Correct me if I'm wrong there.
 
 I would be very sorry to see Jaws go under, but I'm not worried yet. 
 There is a huge following for Jaws and I believe that someone would take
it over.
 
 From: Otto Zamora donttreado...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:49:36 -0400
 
 hi,
 
 You are correct, I am just stating that from what we were told, they 
 are having a hard time finding someone who will take 

RE: [bcab] End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah jaws is over priced and could be better in a number of ways.


However it's still the best screen reader on the market, none of the other
products available give you the functionality of jaws. Window eyes and
System access are pretty dam good, but I still think jaws rates highest
especially when things like servers are being used.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 6:04 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [bcab] End of Freedom?

I feel sorry for the people who will loose their jobs.
On Jun 5, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 I certainly agree. Yay, yay, no more overpriced, unfair JAWS.
 Courtney
 
 On 05/06/2010, at 1:19 in the Afternoon, Olivia Norman wrote:
 
 YAY! YAY! YAY! Goodbye Jaws! :) :) :) :) Innovation distinguishes 
 between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those
people who run Fusion on their Macs.
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com
 Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00
 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com
 Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Colin r. Howard 
 co...@pobox.com
 To: b...@freelists.org; access...@freelists.org; 
 av...@googlegroups.com; ntexpr...@googlegroups.com; 
 jaws...@freelists.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM
 Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 
 Greetings,
 
 I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind 
 Audio List which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or
AccessUK groups.
 
 Ought we to give much credence to this?
 
 I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound.
 
 From: Otto Zamora donttreado...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400
 
 Morning,
 
 In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference 
 Freedom Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw.
 Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on  a 
 flag by an analyst.
 Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising 
 given the economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell 
 off some of their division, mainly their JFW area.
 I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering 
 that there is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for
only $700.
 Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get 
 the package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully 
 accessible web sites, word processing, and E mail.
 all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as 
 individual program.
 ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool 
 indeed for the kind of money they are asking for.
 Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling 
 computers already with speech on board right out of the box and off
the shelf.
 Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that 
 might very well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program.
 Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of 
 JFW, will only work for a short while until the programs 
 controlling the OS, begins to outgrow the application.
 In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to 
 me, was the learning curve, which for the new package being sold 
 by Mr.. Mike Calvo, is very short.
 The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want 
 without real loss. From: Alison Trelfa codamu...@uwclub.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:36:47 +0100
 
 Hello, Otto,
 
 I wonder whether many jaws users would move to another speech 
 program as yet as many of the packages that are not standard 
 probably wouldn't be supported by the out of the box speech. I run 
 Sonar and Sibelius 5.25, both of which are using scripts that have 
 been written by folk who specialise not only in Jaws, but only in 
 the two programs. I suppose those people who only need computers 
 for basic commands may well get away with speech such as you 
 describe, but I don't think that Jaws would just be dismissed out 
 of hand because Freedom is going. I think Jaws has changed hands once
before if I'm not mistaken? Correct me if I'm wrong there.
 
 I would be very sorry to see Jaws go under, but I'm not worried 
 yet. There is a huge following for Jaws and I believe that someone
would take it over.
 
 From: Otto Zamora donttreado...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:49:36 -0400
 
 hi,
 
 You are correct, I am just stating that from what we were told, 
 they are having a hard time finding someone who will take on the 
 project,especially since as you point out, most people are  not 
 using anything that is high end, and from what we also have heard, 
 people are tired of having to pay
 $1500 and change, when there now is a program which 

Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

2010-06-06 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
No you are not stupid, and just as you are entitled to your opinion, i am 
entitled to try and find a solution. It's only advantageous to me as it allows 
me to learn the intricacies of not only the garage band workflow but also of 
applescript, which itself will lead me to figure a mental map on objective c.

I'm a curious person by nature and like to find things out, a detective work of 
some sorts. And this brings me intuition and creativity.


And if somehow it can help others, then perfect. I don't like sitting my arse 
just waiting for a fix. I like fixing things or finding ways to do things when 
i buy a product So that it does what i want it to do. 

Anyway i found some more solutions out of this so its all good

Cheers

Yuma DX®

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Re: Important for all none-english-speaking people: Better translations of VOiceover

2010-06-06 Thread rossy
hi Ann,
I just saw your mail and i would like to thank you for this info .
yes i saw the original email and it is in the hands of  some guys which are 
working to put up a list of the italian errors . i know that a guy called Tom 
will be getting in contact with the danish boy. now i will check how is it 
going and let you know .
thank you again and hope to read from you soon .
rossy 
p.s.
please forgive me for the delay in answering your mail 


Il giorno 02/giu/2010, alle ore 17.41, Søren Jensen ha scritto:

 Hi all.
 
 I have some very good news to all none-english-speaking people who are using 
 VOiceover in other languages than english:
 I've noticed that there are some very critical translation errors in the 
 danish version of Voiceover, which simply doesn't make sence, or which 
 totally confuse people. here is an example:
 In the danish version of Voiceover, the dollar sign has been translated to 
 kr. which is our kind of money. This is a great idea, but it's a very big 
 issue when reading prices in online shops. You need to read character by 
 character to check if it's a dollar sign, or if it's shown kr. on the website 
 to make sure you've got the right price.
 There are some other issues like this, and I contacted the Accessibility 
 team, and tried to explain the issues. I got a mail back where they wrote 
 they would send the mail to the right team. Well, I waited in two weeks...
 Two weeks later, I got a mail from one of the guys who translate VOiceover 
 into other languages, and he said he will do the best to understand my issues 
 and fix the mis-translated words. We wrote some mails together, and finally, 
 we come up with a salution:
 I should write a document, where I explained all the issues, write the 
 suggested translations and then send the document to the team, and then 
 they'll look at it.
 I've now finnished the document, and now I need your help:
 I've heard that some of the same issues also are in the Swedish and the 
 Norwegian versions of VOiceover. If some of you have found other issues in 
 other languages in Voiceover, please contact me off the list.
 My plan is to send my document with the issues I've found in the danish 
 translation, and send it to you to see if the same issues are in your version 
 in your language. My goal is to find all issues in the translations of 
 Voiceover, explain them, come with suggested translations and get it all 
 fixed.
 THe guy who have contacted me from the translation team is very friendly, and 
 is very interested to fix any errors. Therefore, it would be really great if 
 we could find all errors in all translations, and fix them to help people who 
 aren't very good at english. I'm running a danish mailinglist for visually 
 impaired Mac users, and it's not all who speak english there, which means 
 it's a big issue for them if Voiceover isn't translated correctly.
 Here is what I need:
 People  who use Voiceover in an other language than english which also is an 
 experienced VOiceover user.
 I need as many people as possible to get people who know as many languages as 
 possible.
 If you are interested, please contact me off the list so we can continue the 
 discussion there, since I assume people who only use Voiceover in english 
 aren't very interested in this topic. If people who only speaks english are 
 interested in the topic, I'll of course continue the discussion here on the 
 list.
 
 I hope to hear from you...
 Best regards
 Søren Jensen
 Mail  MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
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Further to my braille display problem

2010-06-06 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hello everyone,
The saga with my braille display problem continues happily. I hooked up my 
Optelec Alva bc 640 usb/bluetooth display to the usb and guess what? Yes, it 
didn't work either, the display was all blank. Now i'm starting to get 
seriously worried. Thing is, braille display connects allright, the storage 
devices in the braille display shows up in the finder, however the braille 
itself refuses to work, it's all blank. What could be the problem? Is it the 
usb, the computer whos power is too weak to drive usb displays?, some switch 
that i haven't enabled somewhere, although there's no switch that stupid i can 
see?, what else?
One would think that if it was the usb connections that were wrong, nothing 
would work, but apparently the usb ports work. What can be wrong?
Sorry if i sound desperate, only excuse is that i am.:-)
/Krister, utterly confused

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garage band question

2010-06-06 Thread chad baker
Hi if someone can contact me off list i am running into a problem on garage 
band.
I just got zero-g pro pack i can't import the loops.
I looked at the garage band folder and the loops are .caf and my loops are aiff.
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Re: Further to my braille display problem

2010-06-06 Thread Tony Bernedal
Hi Krister.
I think your displays work on your other mac and you try them on the mb pro? is 
this correct?
Did you transfer your settings from the older machine to the mb pro?
And, did you use the swedish braille table?
I have the same problem then transfering the content from a macbook to a Imac 
and I have blank braille display until I installed the swedish brailletables 
again on the newer machine. 
If you didn't have the swedish table installed, maybe reselecting braille table 
in vo settings can help you.
All the best
Tony

6 jun 2010 kl. 12.27 skrev Krister Ekstrom:

 Hello everyone,
 The saga with my braille display problem continues happily. I hooked up my 
 Optelec Alva bc 640 usb/bluetooth display to the usb and guess what? Yes, it 
 didn't work either, the display was all blank. Now i'm starting to get 
 seriously worried. Thing is, braille display connects allright, the storage 
 devices in the braille display shows up in the finder, however the braille 
 itself refuses to work, it's all blank. What could be the problem? Is it the 
 usb, the computer whos power is too weak to drive usb displays?, some switch 
 that i haven't enabled somewhere, although there's no switch that stupid i 
 can see?, what else?
 One would think that if it was the usb connections that were wrong, nothing 
 would work, but apparently the usb ports work. What can be wrong?
 Sorry if i sound desperate, only excuse is that i am.:-)
 /Krister, utterly confused
 
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Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
I will have the following sections for each program that I will have a
guide for.
(name of program, and developer)
What, will inform user on what the program is and does.
When, will let users know when would be a good scenario to use the
program, such as, “ use DVD ReMaster to burn DVDs”.
Where, will inform the user where they can find the application, from
what vendor, then then in what section of your operating system you
can find it.  It will also include the shortcut key for the program or
utility if it has one.  It will not inform user where the program
files of the application or utility are sotre as this is out of the
scope of my tutorial.
Who, will inform user what type of person would like to use this
program.  This way they can judge if they should do the tutorial or
not.  For example, for the DVD ReMaster, I would put something like,
“An avid movie watcher, a person that would like to backup legal
copies of his DVDs”.
How, here is where the tutorial will start.  I will also include what
areas of the program the tutorial will guide you through.

Below is an example.

DVD ReMaster, Metakine.
Price. Trial Version, 39.99US standard, 49.99US pro.
What.  DVD Remaster will backup your DVD’s into your hard drive, then
you can back them up on another DVD, export them to a format to view
them on your Ipod or just extract the audio and then export them as a
mp3 file to carry them on your mp3 player.  The Pro version is similar
to the standard version but has the added benefits of allowing you to
discard audio and video tracks, which subsequently  allows for a
better compression quality while customizing the DVD with the features
you want.
When.  Quoted directly from their website, “DVDRemaster is an
application which recompresses large DVDs so they can be burned on a
standard DVD or converts them so they can be watched on your video
iPod, iPod touch, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and many others”.
Where.  Menu Bar  Application DVD Remaster.
Who.  An Avid movie watcher, a person who wants to backup their store
bought DVDs into their HD.
How.  (Here I would start the tutorial)

It comes in two flavors, Pro and Standard.

Time Machine, Apple, Inc.
Price: Comes with OS.

What.  Time Machine is the backup and recovery utility that ships with
Mac OS, and it is fully accessible with Voice Over.  Time Machine is
like having the Backup and System Recovery utilities found on Windows
based computers in one screen reader friendly interface.  It has the
ability to automatically back your files up every hour or on a
schedule you specify, after the first initial backup has concluded.
Note, the external drive must be physically connected to the computer,
or you must configure a Time Capsule, for Time Machine to
automatically back up your files to that external drive or Time
Capsule.  Time Capsules is a hard drive that simultaneously acts as a
802.11n wireless router so that you can configure wireless backups of
your system with Time Machine and be able to browse the internet
wirelessly at the same time.  Time Capsule is sold by apple and many
authorize apple retailers.  It is truly a time machine, as it lets you
restore files from a Time Machine backup with a date you specify.  For
example, if my backups have continued on for the past month, and I
wanted to restore a Favorite folder from 2 weeks back, I would be able
to do this with Time Machine.
When.
You can use this utility to backup your computer files, both system
and user files, such as pictures, movies, music, documents, user
settings and application preferences, to either a specified section of
your internal drive or an external drive.  You can later use the
utility to restore your backed up files to your system in case you
accidentally delete some files you want and would like to restored, or
your drive malfunctions.  Warning, if your drive malfunctions, and you
did not backed up on an external drive, your files will probably be
lost forever, unless you are willing to pay a substantial amount for a
software-based File Recovery program or, worst, pay a File Recovery
company even more to recover your files.
Who.  Everyone who cannot afford to have a hard drive malfunction
occur without an available backup.  Especially if you use your
computer for work, school or have family pictures, movies and  you
cannot loose the files.
Note. .  I cannot stress how important backups are, since hard drives
fail when you most need access to your computer, fail when you least
expect them to and stress you like a hot volcano.  I been there,
learned from my mistakes, and I now have a scheduled regular backup
with Time Machine.  There is no excuse for not backing up your files
with the Mac’s OS X built in accesible, free and convinient backup and
restore utility.  The accessibility and convenience of backing up your
files and restoring them with Time Machine is unparallel to any
program I have ever used, and it is a free utility shipped with the
OS.
How.  Here is where I would start the 

Re: Further to my braille display problem

2010-06-06 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Oh for craps sakes, didn't even think about that, that could very well be a 
solution, Ya know, sometimes one feels s stupid. This has to be tried out.
/Krister

6 jun 2010 kl. 13.36 skrev Tony Bernedal:

 Hi Krister.
 I think your displays work on your other mac and you try them on the mb pro? 
 is this correct?
 Did you transfer your settings from the older machine to the mb pro?
 And, did you use the swedish braille table?
 I have the same problem then transfering the content from a macbook to a Imac 
 and I have blank braille display until I installed the swedish brailletables 
 again on the newer machine. 
 If you didn't have the swedish table installed, maybe reselecting braille 
 table in vo settings can help you.
 All the best
 Tony
 
 6 jun 2010 kl. 12.27 skrev Krister Ekstrom:
 
 Hello everyone,
 The saga with my braille display problem continues happily. I hooked up my 
 Optelec Alva bc 640 usb/bluetooth display to the usb and guess what? Yes, it 
 didn't work either, the display was all blank. Now i'm starting to get 
 seriously worried. Thing is, braille display connects allright, the storage 
 devices in the braille display shows up in the finder, however the braille 
 itself refuses to work, it's all blank. What could be the problem? Is it the 
 usb, the computer whos power is too weak to drive usb displays?, some switch 
 that i haven't enabled somewhere, although there's no switch that stupid i 
 can see?, what else?
 One would think that if it was the usb connections that were wrong, nothing 
 would work, but apparently the usb ports work. What can be wrong?
 Sorry if i sound desperate, only excuse is that i am.:-)
 /Krister, utterly confused
 
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Re: My Apple family is growing

2010-06-06 Thread Kaare Dehard
We're adding a second ipod touch and an imac 27 inch for desktop publishing, so 
looks like my family is growing as well:).
On 2010-06-05, at 6:57 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

 Hi Krister,
 
 Congrats on your getting a new Macbook. I love my Macbook although it's not a 
 pro. I'm learning to navigate with the trackpad as well. It's a bit of a 
 challenge in the beginning. But you will get it, you are smart!
 
 Allison
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 As of yesterday i've now got a shiny 13 inch 2.4 Gigahertz Macbook pro. It's 
 a cool little machine really and i'm currently learning how to navigate in 
 Vo with the track pad as oposed to using the keyboard. It's cool but 
 somewhat of a learning curve in the beginning, but correct me if i'm wrong 
 here, but don't you get a tad faster in navigation useng the trackpad than 
 using the keys or am i wrong?
 What would be cool would be if one in some way could drag  drop using the 
 track pad, but it may not be possible.
 Well, i just wanted y'all to know.
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Re: Further to my braille display problem

2010-06-06 Thread Krister Ekstrom

6 jun 2010 kl. 13.36 skrev Tony Bernedal:

 I have the same problem then transfering the content from a macbook to a Imac 
 and I have blank braille display until I installed the swedish brailletables 
 again on the newer machine. 

Tony, you are a hero! This solved the problem for me. Didn't even think that 
the Swedish braille table had something to do with it. Thank you so much for 
this. I guess i owe you a beer when you come to Malmo next.:-)
/Krister

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Re: Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Will these tutorials be as audio files or podcasts?  I do hope so as I learn 
faster if I can listen to things and hear them being demonstrated.  My opinion 
only.

Kawal.
On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Alfredo wrote:

 I will have the following sections for each program that I will have a
 guide for.
 (name of program, and developer)
 What, will inform user on what the program is and does.
 When, will let users know when would be a good scenario to use the
 program, such as, “ use DVD ReMaster to burn DVDs”.
 Where, will inform the user where they can find the application, from
 what vendor, then then in what section of your operating system you
 can find it.  It will also include the shortcut key for the program or
 utility if it has one.  It will not inform user where the program
 files of the application or utility are sotre as this is out of the
 scope of my tutorial.
 Who, will inform user what type of person would like to use this
 program.  This way they can judge if they should do the tutorial or
 not.  For example, for the DVD ReMaster, I would put something like,
 “An avid movie watcher, a person that would like to backup legal
 copies of his DVDs”.
 How, here is where the tutorial will start.  I will also include what
 areas of the program the tutorial will guide you through.
 
 Below is an example.
 
 DVD ReMaster, Metakine.
 Price. Trial Version, 39.99US standard, 49.99US pro.
 What.  DVD Remaster will backup your DVD’s into your hard drive, then
 you can back them up on another DVD, export them to a format to view
 them on your Ipod or just extract the audio and then export them as a
 mp3 file to carry them on your mp3 player.  The Pro version is similar
 to the standard version but has the added benefits of allowing you to
 discard audio and video tracks, which subsequently  allows for a
 better compression quality while customizing the DVD with the features
 you want.
 When.  Quoted directly from their website, “DVDRemaster is an
 application which recompresses large DVDs so they can be burned on a
 standard DVD or converts them so they can be watched on your video
 iPod, iPod touch, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and many others”.
 Where.  Menu Bar  Application DVD Remaster.
 Who.  An Avid movie watcher, a person who wants to backup their store
 bought DVDs into their HD.
 How.  (Here I would start the tutorial)
 
 It comes in two flavors, Pro and Standard.
 
 Time Machine, Apple, Inc.
 Price: Comes with OS.
 
 What.  Time Machine is the backup and recovery utility that ships with
 Mac OS, and it is fully accessible with Voice Over.  Time Machine is
 like having the Backup and System Recovery utilities found on Windows
 based computers in one screen reader friendly interface.  It has the
 ability to automatically back your files up every hour or on a
 schedule you specify, after the first initial backup has concluded.
 Note, the external drive must be physically connected to the computer,
 or you must configure a Time Capsule, for Time Machine to
 automatically back up your files to that external drive or Time
 Capsule.  Time Capsules is a hard drive that simultaneously acts as a
 802.11n wireless router so that you can configure wireless backups of
 your system with Time Machine and be able to browse the internet
 wirelessly at the same time.  Time Capsule is sold by apple and many
 authorize apple retailers.  It is truly a time machine, as it lets you
 restore files from a Time Machine backup with a date you specify.  For
 example, if my backups have continued on for the past month, and I
 wanted to restore a Favorite folder from 2 weeks back, I would be able
 to do this with Time Machine.
 When.
 You can use this utility to backup your computer files, both system
 and user files, such as pictures, movies, music, documents, user
 settings and application preferences, to either a specified section of
 your internal drive or an external drive.  You can later use the
 utility to restore your backed up files to your system in case you
 accidentally delete some files you want and would like to restored, or
 your drive malfunctions.  Warning, if your drive malfunctions, and you
 did not backed up on an external drive, your files will probably be
 lost forever, unless you are willing to pay a substantial amount for a
 software-based File Recovery program or, worst, pay a File Recovery
 company even more to recover your files.
 Who.  Everyone who cannot afford to have a hard drive malfunction
 occur without an available backup.  Especially if you use your
 computer for work, school or have family pictures, movies and  you
 cannot loose the files.
 Note. .  I cannot stress how important backups are, since hard drives
 fail when you most need access to your computer, fail when you least
 expect them to and stress you like a hot volcano.  I been there,
 learned from my mistakes, and I now have a scheduled regular backup
 with Time Machine.  There is no excuse for not backing up your files
 with the Mac’s 

ONCE A ALBUM HAS BEEN DOWNLOADED AND IS IN YOUR ITUNE LIBRARY.

2010-06-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All.

As I told you all I finally downloaded my album which I'm pleased with.  I wish 
to know, can I make the files as mp3 files now?  If so, how?  I haven't got an 
Iphone yet as I'm waiting for the new one to come.  However, I'd like to put 
these files onto my windows mobile device.  If someone could kindly tell me how 
I can change the files to MP3 to put on my phone's storage card, then I'd be 
grateful.  I know you can import your physical music CD as I've done that 
before when I was using Itunes in windows before I bought this excellent Mac 
Pro!

Kawal.

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Re: Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
They will be in  some type of text format, TXT, DOC or another.  I do
have Kurzweil 1000, and I think I can make a mp3 file out of text
files so I can create them with the kurzweil voice.  I know they are
not humans, but I do not know of anyone that would read the tutorial
and record it.  Maybe in the next 2 months I can find someone to read
the tutorial.  So what did you think about the strucutre?  is the
information I am giving the user useful, too short, too long?
Alfredo

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Re: Further to my braille display problem

2010-06-06 Thread Tony Bernedal
Hi Krister.
Nice to hear it's working now.
I'm glad I can help you.
Regards Tony

6 jun 2010 kl. 14.04 skrev Krister Ekstrom:

 
 6 jun 2010 kl. 13.36 skrev Tony Bernedal:
 
 I have the same problem then transfering the content from a macbook to a 
 Imac and I have blank braille display until I installed the swedish 
 brailletables again on the newer machine. 
 
 Tony, you are a hero! This solved the problem for me. Didn't even think that 
 the Swedish braille table had something to do with it. Thank you so much for 
 this. I guess i owe you a beer when you come to Malmo next.:-)
 /Krister
 
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Re: Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I like the information very much Alfredo and I'm sure your tutorials will be 
successful to any user that starts learning the Mac.
On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Alfredo wrote:

 They will be in  some type of text format, TXT, DOC or another.  I do
 have Kurzweil 1000, and I think I can make a mp3 file out of text
 files so I can create them with the kurzweil voice.  I know they are
 not humans, but I do not know of anyone that would read the tutorial
 and record it.  Maybe in the next 2 months I can find someone to read
 the tutorial.  So what did you think about the strucutre?  is the
 information I am giving the user useful, too short, too long?
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Re: radioshift

2010-06-06 Thread Orin
It is, just a lot of unlabeled buttons. Kinda unfamiliar with the program 
though still.


On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:33 AM, william lomas wrote:

   hi as I am at work but want to follow the worldcup I would like 
 to use radioshift to record a bbc radio station called fivelive. is 
 radioshift accessible?
 
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Re: Constant VoiceOver in use/Busy message

2010-06-06 Thread Kimberly thurman
I downloaded Webkit and have been using it for a while now.  This doesn't 
happen to me as much since I did this.  www.webkit.org
On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:

 I get this message a lot when working with web pages in Safari. I would like 
 to know how I can stop or at least minimize this message as well. It makes VO 
 totally unusable in the program you are using. 
 
 Thanks, 
 Doug
 
 On 2010-06-05, at 1:15 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I am getting this message very often lately. This happens both in ITunes, in 
 Mail and in other programs. it is, obviously, a huge waste of time to sit 
 and wait until the message VoiceOver Busy stops.
 
 Does anybody have ideas for solving this issue? I already did a repair of 
 the disk permissions in Disk Utilities.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Constant VoiceOver in use/Busy message

2010-06-06 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi daniel and others.

You can do a lot of things to solve the busy message:
1: Close all the running wegits. If you don't use the wegits in the Dash board, 
I highly recommend you to close these  because they use  a lot of ram. You can 
close them by doing the following:
1: Press the f12 key to bring up the Dash board.
2: Press Vo command f2 to close the current wegit, and press return to accept 
that you wanna close the wegit. Continue to do this until nothing happens when 
pressing Vo command f2.

2: You can go into system preferences and the account settings to remove some 
applications so they doesn't automatically start up together with the operating 
system. You'll find these apps under login items.
3: Don't shut down your computer, and let it be turned on for one night. I've 
read that the OS runs some important scripts to make sure the OS works okay. 
I'm not sure on what the scripts does, but it might make a difference.
4: Upgrade your ram to 4gb of memory. This will make a huge difference.
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den Jun 5, 2010 kl. 5:45 PM skrev Daniel K. Gartmann:

 
 Hi,
 
 I am getting this message very often lately. This happens both in ITunes, in 
 Mail and in other programs. it is, obviously, a huge waste of time to sit and 
 wait until the message VoiceOver Busy stops.
 
 Does anybody have ideas for solving this issue? I already did a repair of the 
 disk permissions in Disk Utilities.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: [bcab] End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Kimberly thurman
This is good to know.  I may just suck it up and put it on the Vista machine.
On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

 Interesting,
 
 I've got windows 7 on 5 different machines, including vm fusion on my mac
 book pro.
 And I only had issues on the first install with the jaws video intercept
 not installing correctly.
 
 Other than that, I've had no trouble with windows 7 and jaws playing
 together nicely.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 5:17 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 Just to add to this,  this week I inherited a PC that my husband isn't
 using.  It's a fairly new computer running Windows 7, and I've been trying
 to install JAWS on it since Wednesday, with absolutely no luck at all, and
 this has included a one hour call to FS tech support.  In the interim, I've
 been running System Access over the internet, just to have some speech on
 the machine.  Having had this experience, I would be hard-pressed ever to
 recommend JAWS over simply getting a Mac again.  I hope Apple does give FS a
 run for their money.  If this is the best FS can do, they deserve to lose
 out, whether to Apple, or to a group like Serotek.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those people
 who run Fusion on their Macs.
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com
 Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00
 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com
 Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Colin r. Howard 
 co...@pobox.com
 To: b...@freelists.org; access...@freelists.org; 
 av...@googlegroups.com; ntexpr...@googlegroups.com; 
 jaws...@freelists.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM
 Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 
 Greetings,
 
 I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind 
 Audio List which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or AccessUK
 groups.
 
 Ought we to give much credence to this?
 
 I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound.
 
 From: Otto Zamora donttreado...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400
 
 Morning,
 
 In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference 
 Freedom Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw.
 Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on  a 
 flag by an analyst.
 Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising 
 given the economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off 
 some of their division, mainly their JFW area.
 I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that 
 there is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700.
 Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get 
 the package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully 
 accessible web sites, word processing, and E mail.
 all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as 
 individual program.
 ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool 
 indeed for the kind of money they are asking for.
 Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling 
 computers already with speech on board right out of the box and off the
 shelf.
 Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that 
 might very well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program.
 Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of 
 JFW, will only work for a short while until the programs controlling 
 the OS, begins to outgrow the application.
 In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to 
 me, was the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by 
 Mr.. Mike Calvo, is very short.
 The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want 
 without real loss. From: Alison Trelfa codamu...@uwclub.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:36:47 +0100
 
 Hello, Otto,
 
 I wonder whether many jaws users would move to another speech 
 program as yet as many of the packages that are not standard 
 probably wouldn't be supported by the out of the box speech. I run 
 Sonar and Sibelius 5.25, both of which are using scripts that have 
 been written by folk who specialise not only in Jaws, but only in 
 the two programs. I suppose those people who only need computers for 
 basic commands may well get away with speech such as you describe, 
 but I don't think that Jaws would just be dismissed out of hand 
 because Freedom is going. I think Jaws has changed hands once before if
 I'm not mistaken? Correct me if I'm wrong there.
 
 I would be very sorry to see Jaws go under, but I'm not worried yet. 
 There is a huge following for Jaws and I believe that someone would take
 it over.
 
 From: Otto Zamora donttreado...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Fri, 

DELETING FOLDERS FROM PORTIBLE DISC DRIVES WITHIN FINDER.

2010-06-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All.

I've been looking in the help menu and the folder menu i.e. the file menu of a 
disc drive as I wish to delete a couple of folders. moving to trash is dimmed, 
even if I press command delete as you do if you are on your hard drive to get 
rid of a folder doesn't work.  So now I'm asking if anyone can tell me how I  
can get rid of some files of my portible disc drive please?

Kawal.

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Re: Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread Kimberly thurman
Alfredo, sounds like you have this laid out very nicely.  I applaud your 
ambition!
On Jun 6, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Alfredo wrote:

 They will be in  some type of text format, TXT, DOC or another.  I do
 have Kurzweil 1000, and I think I can make a mp3 file out of text
 files so I can create them with the kurzweil voice.  I know they are
 not humans, but I do not know of anyone that would read the tutorial
 and record it.  Maybe in the next 2 months I can find someone to read
 the tutorial.  So what did you think about the strucutre?  is the
 information I am giving the user useful, too short, too long?
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Re: Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo


Kimberly thurman wrote:
 Alfredo, sounds like you have this laid out very nicely.  I applaud your 
 ambition!
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Alfredo wrote:

  They will be in  some type of text format, TXT, DOC or another.  I do
  have Kurzweil 1000, and I think I can make a mp3 file out of text
  files so I can create them with the kurzweil voice.  I know they are
  not humans, but I do not know of anyone that would read the tutorial
  and record it.  Maybe in the next 2 months I can find someone to read
  the tutorial.  So what did you think about the strucutre?  is the
  information I am giving the user useful, too short, too long?
  Alfredo
 
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world clock

2010-06-06 Thread william lomas
hi all, how do I use the world clock widget?
I can set a city but I just see AM or PM nt the actual time. I am trying to 
find out what time it is in the UK these days if it is around twelve PM EDT

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Re: Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread John Panarese
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   I agree.  I think this will be very useful to new Mac users or those 
interested in switching.  The more resources and guides that our out there, the 
better it is for all.


Take Care

John Panarese

On Jun 6, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 I like the information very much Alfredo and I'm sure your tutorials will be 
 successful to any user that starts learning the Mac.
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Alfredo wrote:
 
 They will be in  some type of text format, TXT, DOC or another.  I do
 have Kurzweil 1000, and I think I can make a mp3 file out of text
 files so I can create them with the kurzweil voice.  I know they are
 not humans, but I do not know of anyone that would read the tutorial
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 the tutorial.  So what did you think about the strucutre?  is the
 information I am giving the user useful, too short, too long?
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Re: ONCE A ALBUM HAS BEEN DOWNLOADED AND IS IN YOUR ITUNE LIBRARY.

2010-06-06 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Kawal,

I believe you can do this in Itunes. I forget the exact steps since I haven't 
done it myself, but I think after you put the CD in, you go to import settings 
in Itunes and and make sure that mp3 format is selected. I can do a clip of it 
if you like. The clips will probably be done today since my laryngitis has 
cleared up. Have a wonderful day.

Allison

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 Hi All.
 
 As I told you all I finally downloaded my album which I'm pleased with.  I 
 wish to know, can I make the files as mp3 files now?  If so, how?  I haven't 
 got an Iphone yet as I'm waiting for the new one to come.  However, I'd like 
 to put these files onto my windows mobile device.  If someone could kindly 
 tell me how I can change the files to MP3 to put on my phone's storage card, 
 then I'd be grateful.  I know you can import your physical music CD as I've 
 done that before when I was using Itunes in windows before I bought this 
 excellent Mac Pro!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
WILL YOU POST A PODCAST AFTER THE EVENT IS OVER?
ALFREDO

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote

2010-06-06 Thread william lomas
Should be interesting I will listen in, cheers guys for putting this together.

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote

2010-06-06 Thread william lomas
alfredo, I will record it as it airs if you wish with audio highjack


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Unzip

2010-06-06 Thread Carolyn
Hi:
Can someone tell me how to unzip a zipped library file?  THANKS in advance.

Carolyn

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Re: world clock

2010-06-06 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi,

Well, as always I learned something new. I didn't know there was a world clock 
wigit, or even how to download wigits. I know the UK is 5 hours ahead of us I 
believe. So it is 12-29 here so it is 5-29 PM there. I don't know if that 
helps, my sweetheart is in Spain and he is six hours ahead of me.

Allison

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Re: Tech Doctor Podcast 4 available

2010-06-06 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,

The Emersion in to Windows 7 by CathyAnne Murtha can be purchased at 
http://www.blindtraining.com

Robert Carter
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 Yes this is the second part of the tutorial.  So Can you please asnwer
 my question Dr. Tech?
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Re: world clock

2010-06-06 Thread william lomas
it does thanks

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 Hi,
 
 Well, as always I learned something new. I didn't know there was a world 
 clock wigit, or even how to download wigits. I know the UK is 5 hours ahead 
 of us I believe. So it is 12-29 here so it is 5-29 PM there. I don't know if 
 that helps, my sweetheart is in Spain and he is six hours ahead of me.
 
 Allison
 
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Safari and Blackboard

2010-06-06 Thread Michael Busboom
Hello Everyone,

Has anyone had experience using Safari with Blackboard?  If so, I'd be 
interested in learning about your experiences, picking up pointers and, if I'm 
lucky, finding a how-to tutorial.

I am wondering if it works in principle, or if it is a no from the get go.

Thanks,

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Re: Safari and Blackboard

2010-06-06 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Mike,

Unfortunately, I found that it doesn't work well.  I was accessing Blackboard 
from the faculty end, so if you're a student your experience may differ.  But I 
was not able to use it, and when I contacted Accessibility, they said it was a 
Blackboard issue, so they would not be working on it.

Sorry I don't have better news.
Best,
Donna
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 Hello Everyone,
 
 Has anyone had experience using Safari with Blackboard?  If so, I'd be 
 interested in learning about your experiences, picking up pointers and, if 
 I'm lucky, finding a how-to tutorial.
 
 I am wondering if it works in principle, or if it is a no from the get go.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Considering purchasing an iPad, but ...

2010-06-06 Thread Michael Busboom
Hi everyone,

As the subject implies, I am considering purchasing an iPad, primarily because 
I want to read E-books.  Here are some questions I have:

1.  Can one use the iPad in conjunction with Voice Over to read E-books 
purchased through the iTunes store?  If there are limitations, what are they?

2.  Can E-books purchased from other sources such as Amazon be read on the iPad 
with VO?

3.  Since I am studying, I am wondering what percentage of university-level 
textbooks are available in a form that can be read on the iPad.

4.  Lastly, I have a Mac Book which I love.  Is there software out there that 
would allow me to read textbooks on my Mac Book, thereby perhaps circumventing 
the need to purchase the iPad?

Thanks in advance,

Mike



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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote

2010-06-06 Thread Christina
I know I may sound like a ditz but will this be an audio stream or will it be 
text like a live chat?  I know and understand we will not be listening to the 
actual keynote speech but will Josh and the others be speaking or typing 
announcements and such?  Sorry about my ignorance here but I've never been to a 
site like this.  I hope I don't miss it, I really want to catch this.  I'm 
concerned I'll miss it.  I'll try though.  :)

Christina
On Jun 6, 2010, at 9:16 AM, william lomas wrote:

 Should be interesting I will listen in, cheers guys for putting this together.
 
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Alfredo wrote:
 
 WILL YOU POST A PODCAST AFTER THE EVENT IS OVER?
 ALFREDO
 
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Re: Safari and Blackboard

2010-06-06 Thread Olivia Norman
Hi Mike,
When I was in graduate school, I used safari with blackboard, and it worked 
great from the start.  Make sure that you interact with every frame.  You 
should have no issues; it's very accessible.
Olivia
Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs

On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 Has anyone had experience using Safari with Blackboard?  If so, I'd be 
 interested in learning about your experiences, picking up pointers and, if 
 I'm lucky, finding a how-to tutorial.
 
 I am wondering if it works in principle, or if it is a no from the get go.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote

2010-06-06 Thread Olivia Norman
Will there be an archive of this? I am so upset I'll miss it; I'll be on a 
training route with my dog right at 9:30.  Really looking forward to the 
podcast when I get back! :)
Olivia
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On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Christina wrote:

 I know I may sound like a ditz but will this be an audio stream or will it be 
 text like a live chat?  I know and understand we will not be listening to the 
 actual keynote speech but will Josh and the others be speaking or typing 
 announcements and such?  Sorry about my ignorance here but I've never been to 
 a site like this.  I hope I don't miss it, I really want to catch this.  I'm 
 concerned I'll miss it.  I'll try though.  :)
 
 Christina
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 9:16 AM, william lomas wrote:
 
 Should be interesting I will listen in, cheers guys for putting this 
 together.
 
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Alfredo wrote:
 
 WILL YOU POST A PODCAST AFTER THE EVENT IS OVER?
 ALFREDO
 
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Re: Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread Christina
Sounds very thorough which I appreciate as I don't just naturally understand 
things relating to technology unless someone teaches it to me.  I didn't even 
understand what time capsule was until I read your e-mail even though I've seen 
discussions of it.  :)  Thanks, now I know I better back up my hard drive.

Christina
On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Alfredo wrote:

 I will have the following sections for each program that I will have a
 guide for.
 (name of program, and developer)
 What, will inform user on what the program is and does.
 When, will let users know when would be a good scenario to use the
 program, such as, “ use DVD ReMaster to burn DVDs”.
 Where, will inform the user where they can find the application, from
 what vendor, then then in what section of your operating system you
 can find it.  It will also include the shortcut key for the program or
 utility if it has one.  It will not inform user where the program
 files of the application or utility are sotre as this is out of the
 scope of my tutorial.
 Who, will inform user what type of person would like to use this
 program.  This way they can judge if they should do the tutorial or
 not.  For example, for the DVD ReMaster, I would put something like,
 “An avid movie watcher, a person that would like to backup legal
 copies of his DVDs”.
 How, here is where the tutorial will start.  I will also include what
 areas of the program the tutorial will guide you through.
 
 Below is an example.
 
 DVD ReMaster, Metakine.
 Price. Trial Version, 39.99US standard, 49.99US pro.
 What.  DVD Remaster will backup your DVD’s into your hard drive, then
 you can back them up on another DVD, export them to a format to view
 them on your Ipod or just extract the audio and then export them as a
 mp3 file to carry them on your mp3 player.  The Pro version is similar
 to the standard version but has the added benefits of allowing you to
 discard audio and video tracks, which subsequently  allows for a
 better compression quality while customizing the DVD with the features
 you want.
 When.  Quoted directly from their website, “DVDRemaster is an
 application which recompresses large DVDs so they can be burned on a
 standard DVD or converts them so they can be watched on your video
 iPod, iPod touch, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and many others”.
 Where.  Menu Bar  Application DVD Remaster.
 Who.  An Avid movie watcher, a person who wants to backup their store
 bought DVDs into their HD.
 How.  (Here I would start the tutorial)
 
 It comes in two flavors, Pro and Standard.
 
 Time Machine, Apple, Inc.
 Price: Comes with OS.
 
 What.  Time Machine is the backup and recovery utility that ships with
 Mac OS, and it is fully accessible with Voice Over.  Time Machine is
 like having the Backup and System Recovery utilities found on Windows
 based computers in one screen reader friendly interface.  It has the
 ability to automatically back your files up every hour or on a
 schedule you specify, after the first initial backup has concluded.
 Note, the external drive must be physically connected to the computer,
 or you must configure a Time Capsule, for Time Machine to
 automatically back up your files to that external drive or Time
 Capsule.  Time Capsules is a hard drive that simultaneously acts as a
 802.11n wireless router so that you can configure wireless backups of
 your system with Time Machine and be able to browse the internet
 wirelessly at the same time.  Time Capsule is sold by apple and many
 authorize apple retailers.  It is truly a time machine, as it lets you
 restore files from a Time Machine backup with a date you specify.  For
 example, if my backups have continued on for the past month, and I
 wanted to restore a Favorite folder from 2 weeks back, I would be able
 to do this with Time Machine.
 When.
 You can use this utility to backup your computer files, both system
 and user files, such as pictures, movies, music, documents, user
 settings and application preferences, to either a specified section of
 your internal drive or an external drive.  You can later use the
 utility to restore your backed up files to your system in case you
 accidentally delete some files you want and would like to restored, or
 your drive malfunctions.  Warning, if your drive malfunctions, and you
 did not backed up on an external drive, your files will probably be
 lost forever, unless you are willing to pay a substantial amount for a
 software-based File Recovery program or, worst, pay a File Recovery
 company even more to recover your files.
 Who.  Everyone who cannot afford to have a hard drive malfunction
 occur without an available backup.  Especially if you use your
 computer for work, school or have family pictures, movies and  you
 cannot loose the files.
 Note. .  I cannot stress how important backups are, since hard drives
 fail when you most need access to your computer, fail when you least
 expect them to and stress you like a hot volcano.  I been there,
 

Re: Safari and Blackboard

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
I also was wondering about this, and since I will be taking a 100%
online class using blackboard starting june 15, I will incorporate the
blackboard site into my tutorial.
Thanks, to the poster that recommened that we interact with frames.  I
never really use or care for frames, when using blackboard with Jaws,
but I remember from my sighted days that when you would click on the
left side buttons, which is the left side frame, the main frame would
refresh.
Alfredo

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
If you can record it with audio HiJack I would really appreciate it.
alfredo

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Re: Update on snow leopard tutorial, descritpion phase

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
Wow it actually worked.  I am gald that you now know th eimportance of
backing up your data.
Alfredo

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Re: Considering purchasing an iPad, but ...

2010-06-06 Thread Kaare Dehard
Hi Mike, I have sort have experimented with an ipad, and I was able to read the 
ebooks on there. Also any epub format is able to be imported to the ipad. 

Also acording to rumor, os 4 is supposed to offer ibooks for iphone/ipod 
touch... Hopefully after wwdc, this will be clarified.
On 2010-06-06, at 1:20 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 As the subject implies, I am considering purchasing an iPad, primarily 
 because I want to read E-books.  Here are some questions I have:
 
 1.  Can one use the iPad in conjunction with Voice Over to read E-books 
 purchased through the iTunes store?  If there are limitations, what are they?
 
 2.  Can E-books purchased from other sources such as Amazon be read on the 
 iPad with VO?
 
 3.  Since I am studying, I am wondering what percentage of university-level 
 textbooks are available in a form that can be read on the iPad.
 
 4.  Lastly, I have a Mac Book which I love.  Is there software out there that 
 would allow me to read textbooks on my Mac Book, thereby perhaps 
 circumventing the need to purchase the iPad?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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the unzip request

2010-06-06 Thread Carolyn
Hi Allison:
Just wanted to let you know your suggestion worked.  I was unable to open the 
file or expand it, and then it copied and went right to the SD card once I did 
interact and paste in the right folder.  Thanks.
Carolyn

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Re: OT--End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Michael Busboom
Hello.

I don't really feel comfortable weighing in on this issue because the demise of 
JFW is apparently a rumor, nothing more.

However, if you are looking for a positive experience with Windows 7, I would 
really consider using Windows 7 with Window-Eyes.  It works great!

As I write this note, however, I can't help but feel how good it is to be able 
to use Mac OS and built-in accessibility.  We are extremely fortunate to have 
responsive people who are dedicated to making VO more than a week attempt to 
assert that accessibility issues are being addressed.




On 6,Jun,2010, at 12:20 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

 Wish I hadn't paid $200 for versions 11, 12, 13.  As a matter of fact, I'll 
 be we hear something definitive soon, because version 12 should be, at least, 
 being talked about within the next couple of months.  I have a Vista machine 
 I'd like to update to 7, but I've heard about so many people having issues 
 with 7 and Jaws that I haven't even opened the update DVD yet.  I've been 
 trying to decide whether to install it on the mac via Fusion or Boot Camp, or 
 upgrade my Vista machine.  Guess I'll hang on to it a little longer.  I don't 
 even know if I can use an upgrade disk to install a fresh Windows 7 OS.
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Ana G wrote:
 
 Jaws is a good product, but it's been overpriced for years, and Freedom 
 Scientific hasn't been very responsive to its customer base. We all benefit 
 from screen reader competition. Let's hope FS rethinks it's mission and 
 approach rather than selling off its best product. Open Book, the latest 
 version, is a real disappointment, not at all worth the thousand dollar 
 price tag. 
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote

2010-06-06 Thread Holly Anderson
Hi, we will be speaking live.  It's an audio event.
Holly
On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Christina wrote:

 I know I may sound like a ditz but will this be an audio stream or will it be 
 text like a live chat?  I know and understand we will not be listening to the 
 actual keynote speech but will Josh and the others be speaking or typing 
 announcements and such?  Sorry about my ignorance here but I've never been to 
 a site like this.  I hope I don't miss it, I really want to catch this.  I'm 
 concerned I'll miss it.  I'll try though.  :)
 
 Christina
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 9:16 AM, william lomas wrote:
 
 Should be interesting I will listen in, cheers guys for putting this 
 together.
 
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Alfredo wrote:
 
 WILL YOU POST A PODCAST AFTER THE EVENT IS OVER?
 ALFREDO
 
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Join Us Live for Apple's WWDC Keynote

2010-06-06 Thread Holly Anderson
Hi.  We will be doing our normal podcast summing up the event.  That will be 
live streamed as well.  The live streaming during the keynote will just be us 
discussing what we are hearing at the time.

So yes, there will be the normal podcast afterwords.
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Copying MP3 Books to an iPod

2010-06-06 Thread Ana G
I found these instructions for copying an mp3 book to an iPod using iTunes. The 
instructions include details for both Windows and Mac users.

http://www.audiobookstand.com/mp3cdtransfer.asp

audio Bookstand is also a great place to buy audio books on commercial CD or 
mp3 discs. You can even request certain titles on cassette.

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Re: OT--End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Brent Harding
I heard the podcast about that Pearl camera, sounds impressive, but I 
already had Kurzweil, can't afford to buy $2000 worth of stuff to have 
camera scanning. I want it as scanners are getting slower and slower, my all 
in one takes forever compared to the old epson. I can't afford to switch, 
and now that they're putting activation in there too, more calls to make on 
every third reformat.



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Jaws is a good product, but it's been overpriced for years, and Freedom 
Scientific hasn't been very responsive to its customer base. We all 
benefit from screen reader competition. Let's hope FS rethinks it's 
mission and approach rather than selling off its best product. Open Book, 
the latest version, is a real disappointment, not at all worth the 
thousand dollar price tag.

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Re: OT--End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Honestly, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart and soul which have both seen 
heard and experience many horrid things in life, this whole freedom scientific 
thing is monstrous.

I was sighted not long ago, and believed that accessibility tech and other 
handicap related accessories were subsidized, given by right by governments or 
organizations.

After my accident, and looking for access solutions with my friend at the 
hospital, i first tried a free but weird screen reader which name i can't even 
remember. Then came window eyes, then JAws appeared on google.

It seemed ok when installing the trial. Remember that at that point, anything 
that would allow me to still use the computer was nothing short of miraculous. 
I didn't even know how a screen reader worked.

I then decided to purchase it and thought it would be priced like a microsoft 
Office or even a windows OS. Boy i was wrong, and suddenly frustrated, angry 
and bewildered by that 900USD price tag.

So i immediately looked for an alternative to this ridiculous and stupid 
purchase. Consider that adobe products do far more complex things, that a full 
3D package with over 2000 paremeters features including modelling texturing 
animation special effects rendering and post rendering, plugins, tools 
extensions, extensive manuals, network solutions for renders and awesome 
rendering engines for various 3d styles of drawing cost just a little over a 
screen reader, the latter which can be downloaded with a modem with all its 
features. you can stick Jaws on 6 floppy disks. You need 6 DvDs to have the 
Autodesk 3D studio max 2010 edition properly installed on your systemm.

I tried to make abstraction, think that screen readers were extremely complex 
things with totally insanely arcane code under the hood, that all these 
gigabytes and gigabytes of data from professional softwae i used pre accident 
were just being overpriced. That Quality of the software was in compact 
elegance and not bloated media stuffings. In short, that i got screwed with all 
my previous graphic intensive software and that Jaws was written by the hand of 
god. OK i was just being utterly sarcastic :)

Then my father came to visit me at the hospital, and vraught over his macbook 
13 inch late 2008, and told me that he found out it had a scren reader, though 
the voice was seriously whacked.

When Fred came up, somehow my dad decided that was the best voice in the bunch 
LOL, i wasn't impressed, but gave it some patience and learned bit by bit all 
of what blind computering would be.

And i installed a cracked copy of Jaws which i then used for less than a month 
because my mac experience was so much better. It wasn't even worth trying with 
a free version, if you technically looked at it. Believe me, i have made the 
round of manuals forums and tips for jaws stuff. I still got all the nuance 
voices somewhere. But the jaws itself is just crap.

Now i have a macbook pro 17 inch, learning the mac server environment and about 
to get my hands on a mac mini server for my own business, and have all my 
devices synched perfectly with mac software that does way more than a screen 
reader and costs a fraction, a bite of what Jaws costs albeit being more 
essential to my work environment. These arses at FS thought they could play 
with a blatant fact of life in blind individuals and make them believe that 
they couldn't work properly without their software. Its freaking backwards 
communism. It's dope dealing, its stealing pure and simple.
I don't want a freaking pack mate that probably hulks around like a satellite 
phone unit. I don't want an OCR that i can't carry around and that costs 
1000USD. Seriously, a thousand bucks for an OCR? I got the iphone and its 
beautifully integrated for my business card reading..

And i would never, not for a long shot, not if i was stuck with scrabble on 
saturn, consider installing JAWS. I hate the limitations on its spatial 
navigation anyway. TO put it simply, i need a cosmic experience when i use the 
computer otherwise it depresses the crap out of me.

One thing i always opposed in life is injustice. I have seen it everywhere 
since i was a kid, because we travelled a lot in the family, and during 
documentaries and reports i would interact with subjects from various 
communities and ethnicities. I have grown to love the environment and its 
people, no matter how they are or looked.
And i have a sensibility to people with lesser advantages by genetics or fate, 
than me.

And when i see that these people from FS try to suck out all the money they can 
from blind individuals whose median has a high unemployment rate, and to find 
out that those who are skilled, positive and professional in their work, are 
set back by all the bugs and bullshit that FS gives them, whetehr through the 
software's rigid feeling navigation concept or its dodgy tech support line. I 
get a gigantic whole in my chest. This level of unfairness is prehistoric. It's 

Re: OT--End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hello;  I understand your frustration and feel your pain.  I'm a mac  
user because i was frustrated by the quality of windows laptops and  
having to convince one of three different vendors that it was their  
fault when something didn't work.  but the truth here is different  
positions in the marketplace and different philosophies.  JFW has a  
screen reader specifically for blind people a small market that the  
number dictate you must charge high prices to make good profits.   
Whether that is correct or not is not the subject here.  but in  
apple's case they aren't offering the voiceover because blind people  
are a large market that spends lots of money they do it because their  
company philosophy is to believe that offering universal access will  
lead to long term growth as the population gets older and people with  
failing vision, hearing, or motor functions will come to or stay with  
mac.  There are very few companies in any industry taking the long  
view any more but that's the difference here.  Good for mac and lets  
pray for freedom that they can reevaluate their mission and approach  
and become a better stronger company in the future.  for all of  
apple's progress, windows still dominantes the market on computers and  
a good economical screen reader for those machines will always have a  
future.  thanks and take care, max

On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

Honestly, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart and soul which have  
both seen heard and experience many horrid things in life, this  
whole freedom scientific thing is monstrous.


I was sighted not long ago, and believed that accessibility tech and  
other handicap related accessories were subsidized, given by right  
by governments or organizations.


After my accident, and looking for access solutions with my friend  
at the hospital, i first tried a free but weird screen reader which  
name i can't even remember. Then came window eyes, then JAws  
appeared on google.


It seemed ok when installing the trial. Remember that at that point,  
anything that would allow me to still use the computer was nothing  
short of miraculous. I didn't even know how a screen reader worked.


I then decided to purchase it and thought it would be priced like a  
microsoft Office or even a windows OS. Boy i was wrong, and suddenly  
frustrated, angry and bewildered by that 900USD price tag.


So i immediately looked for an alternative to this ridiculous and  
stupid purchase. Consider that adobe products do far more complex  
things, that a full 3D package with over 2000 paremeters features  
including modelling texturing animation special effects rendering  
and post rendering, plugins, tools extensions, extensive manuals,  
network solutions for renders and awesome rendering engines for  
various 3d styles of drawing cost just a little over a screen  
reader, the latter which can be downloaded with a modem with all its  
features. you can stick Jaws on 6 floppy disks. You need 6 DvDs to  
have the Autodesk 3D studio max 2010 edition properly installed on  
your systemm.


I tried to make abstraction, think that screen readers were  
extremely complex things with totally insanely arcane code under the  
hood, that all these gigabytes and gigabytes of data from  
professional softwae i used pre accident were just being overpriced.  
That Quality of the software was in compact elegance and not bloated  
media stuffings. In short, that i got screwed with all my previous  
graphic intensive software and that Jaws was written by the hand of  
god. OK i was just being utterly sarcastic :)


Then my father came to visit me at the hospital, and vraught over  
his macbook 13 inch late 2008, and told me that he found out it had  
a scren reader, though the voice was seriously whacked.


When Fred came up, somehow my dad decided that was the best voice in  
the bunch LOL, i wasn't impressed, but gave it some patience and  
learned bit by bit all of what blind computering would be.


And i installed a cracked copy of Jaws which i then used for less  
than a month because my mac experience was so much better. It wasn't  
even worth trying with a free version, if you technically looked at  
it. Believe me, i have made the round of manuals forums and tips for  
jaws stuff. I still got all the nuance voices somewhere. But the  
jaws itself is just crap.


Now i have a macbook pro 17 inch, learning the mac server  
environment and about to get my hands on a mac mini server for my  
own business, and have all my devices synched perfectly with mac  
software that does way more than a screen reader and costs a  
fraction, a bite of what Jaws costs albeit being more essential to  
my work environment. These arses at FS thought they could play with  
a blatant fact of life in blind individuals and make them believe  
that they couldn't work properly without their software. Its  
freaking backwards communism. It's dope dealing, its stealing 

v m fusion version 3.0

2010-06-06 Thread Mary Otten
Hi all,

I just got fusion version 3 installed on my mac. there is the 3.1 update 
available, but I have followed the thread on this list talking about the low 
volume. So I am thinking there is no good reason to get that update. I won't be 
using windows 7. I'm porting over my xp machine. Can anybody tell me good 
reasons to get the 3.1 update that offset the inconvenience of the much lowered 
volume?

mary

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Re: OT--End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Olivia Norman
I completely agree with you Mike! if one absolutely must use windows for work, 
or what have you, window eyes seems like a great product and a viable 
alternative to Jaws.  My experience with PC's is pretty limited at this point 
(I've been exclusively a mac user for the past three years) but have heard good 
things about window eyes rom others.
Olivia
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On Jun 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I don't really feel comfortable weighing in on this issue because the demise 
 of JFW is apparently a rumor, nothing more.
 
 However, if you are looking for a positive experience with Windows 7, I would 
 really consider using Windows 7 with Window-Eyes.  It works great!
 
 As I write this note, however, I can't help but feel how good it is to be 
 able to use Mac OS and built-in accessibility.  We are extremely fortunate to 
 have responsive people who are dedicated to making VO more than a week 
 attempt to assert that accessibility issues are being addressed.
 
 
 
 
 On 6,Jun,2010, at 12:20 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
 Wish I hadn't paid $200 for versions 11, 12, 13.  As a matter of fact, I'll 
 be we hear something definitive soon, because version 12 should be, at 
 least, being talked about within the next couple of months.  I have a Vista 
 machine I'd like to update to 7, but I've heard about so many people having 
 issues with 7 and Jaws that I haven't even opened the update DVD yet.  I've 
 been trying to decide whether to install it on the mac via Fusion or Boot 
 Camp, or upgrade my Vista machine.  Guess I'll hang on to it a little 
 longer.  I don't even know if I can use an upgrade disk to install a fresh 
 Windows 7 OS.
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Ana G wrote:
 
 Jaws is a good product, but it's been overpriced for years, and Freedom 
 Scientific hasn't been very responsive to its customer base. We all benefit 
 from screen reader competition. Let's hope FS rethinks it's mission and 
 approach rather than selling off its best product. Open Book, the latest 
 version, is a real disappointment, not at all worth the thousand dollar 
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Re: v m fusion version 3.0

2010-06-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All.

I might as well tell you all, I downloaded Fusion 3.01 afresh, got windows 
seven installed with the help of my brother-in-law over the phone, for more 
than three hours on two days, we installed windows seven.  I'll just say as we 
are both totals and he's an experienced computer and Mac user, we could not get 
any sound of windows seven.  We've now given up and he's sending me a tailored 
copy of XP (tailored) means that he's putting my name in it and giving me a 
script which will install XP unattended.
Just that you all know that this time Windows seven did not work even though 
all was installed.

Kawal.
On Jun 6, 2010, at 11:55 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I just got fusion version 3 installed on my mac. there is the 3.1 update 
 available, but I have followed the thread on this list talking about the low 
 volume. So I am thinking there is no good reason to get that update. I won't 
 be using windows 7. I'm porting over my xp machine. Can anybody tell me good 
 reasons to get the 3.1 update that offset the inconvenience of the much 
 lowered volume?
 
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RE: OT--End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Blake Sinnett

You don't need to keep activating. If it's anything like JAWS, You'll just need 
to back up a couple of files. But that's not a topic for this list.
 
 From: bhard...@doorpi.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: OT--End of Freedom?
 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:14:22 -0500
 
 I heard the podcast about that Pearl camera, sounds impressive, but I 
 already had Kurzweil, can't afford to buy $2000 worth of stuff to have 
 camera scanning. I want it as scanners are getting slower and slower, my all 
 in one takes forever compared to the old epson. I can't afford to switch, 
 and now that they're putting activation in there too, more calls to make on 
 every third reformat.
 
 
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 From: Ana G lot.of.y...@sbcglobal.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:26 PM
 Subject: Re: OT--End of Freedom?
 
 
  Jaws is a good product, but it's been overpriced for years, and Freedom 
  Scientific hasn't been very responsive to its customer base. We all 
  benefit from screen reader competition. Let's hope FS rethinks it's 
  mission and approach rather than selling off its best product. Open Book, 
  the latest version, is a real disappointment, not at all worth the 
  thousand dollar price tag.
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Re: v m fusion version 3.0

2010-06-06 Thread Scott Howell
Mary,

I did not noticed any significant improvement to justify the loss of audio 
level. So, in my opinion,, stick with 3.0 until they fix the issue. Howeve,r if 
you backup the 3.0 application, you could install 3.10 and see if the issue 
affects you. If so, you can always just copy the 3.0 version over the 3.10 
version and be back in business.

On Jun 6, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I just got fusion version 3 installed on my mac. there is the 3.1 update 
 available, but I have followed the thread on this list talking about the low 
 volume. So I am thinking there is no good reason to get that update. I won't 
 be using windows 7. I'm porting over my xp machine. Can anybody tell me good 
 reasons to get the 3.1 update that offset the inconvenience of the much 
 lowered volume?
 
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diving cursor

2010-06-06 Thread Catherine Kudlick
Hi All,
When I use some applications on the Macbook Pro the cursor dives to a lower
part of the screen as I try to move along the top toolbar; just as I'm about
to enter text in the search box in help,  it's sometimes impossible to enter
text.  Holding the command key helps, but not always.  The problem is
especially bad in Safari and Finder.  It's better when I use the arrow keys
rather than the track pad, but it still can be a problem.

To give you some context: I'm using the zoom feature with some VO when I get
to big chunks of text. Through trial and error, I find it works best when I
check smoothing and Zoom follows keyboard. I realize that having checked
screen image moves when mouse pointer reaches an edge could be the
culprit, but the other options create their own problems, among them nausea.


Thanks!
cathy

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the unzip request

2010-06-06 Thread Carolyn
Hi Allison:
Just wanted to let you know your suggestion worked.  I was unable to open the 
file or expand it, and then it copied and went right to the SD card once I did 
interact and paste in the right folder.  Thanks.
Carolyn

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Re: the unzip request

2010-06-06 Thread Carolyn
Allison:  Corrrection:  I was able to expand and copy and paste.

Carolyn
On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Carolyn wrote:

 Hi Allison:
 Just wanted to let you know your suggestion worked.  I was unable to open the 
 file or expand it, and then it copied and went right to the SD card once I 
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Re: OT--End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Allison Manzino
I agree with you, Olivia and Mike. I switched from Jaws to Hal, and then from 
Hal to Window-Eyes. It's an expensive proposition, but GW Micro has a payment 
plan. It's the only way I was able to afford Window-Eyes and in my experience, 
GW Micro has much better technical support and customer service than Freedom.

Allison

On Jun 6, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Olivia Norman wrote:

 I completely agree with you Mike! if one absolutely must use windows for 
 work, or what have you, window eyes seems like a great product and a viable 
 alternative to Jaws.  My experience with PC's is pretty limited at this point 
 (I've been exclusively a mac user for the past three years) but have heard 
 good things about window eyes rom others.
 Olivia
 Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs
 
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I don't really feel comfortable weighing in on this issue because the demise 
 of JFW is apparently a rumor, nothing more.
 
 However, if you are looking for a positive experience with Windows 7, I 
 would really consider using Windows 7 with Window-Eyes.  It works great!
 
 As I write this note, however, I can't help but feel how good it is to be 
 able to use Mac OS and built-in accessibility.  We are extremely fortunate 
 to have responsive people who are dedicated to making VO more than a week 
 attempt to assert that accessibility issues are being addressed.
 
 
 
 
 On 6,Jun,2010, at 12:20 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
 Wish I hadn't paid $200 for versions 11, 12, 13.  As a matter of fact, I'll 
 be we hear something definitive soon, because version 12 should be, at 
 least, being talked about within the next couple of months.  I have a Vista 
 machine I'd like to update to 7, but I've heard about so many people having 
 issues with 7 and Jaws that I haven't even opened the update DVD yet.  I've 
 been trying to decide whether to install it on the mac via Fusion or Boot 
 Camp, or upgrade my Vista machine.  Guess I'll hang on to it a little 
 longer.  I don't even know if I can use an upgrade disk to install a fresh 
 Windows 7 OS.
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Ana G wrote:
 
 Jaws is a good product, but it's been overpriced for years, and Freedom 
 Scientific hasn't been very responsive to its customer base. We all 
 benefit from screen reader competition. Let's hope FS rethinks it's 
 mission and approach rather than selling off its best product. Open Book, 
 the latest version, is a real disappointment, not at all worth the 
 thousand dollar price tag. 
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Re: the unzip request

2010-06-06 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Carolyn,
Oh wow I'll have to try that. THanks, I am upgrading the Stream to the 
Softpack. I'm awaiting HumanWare's order confirmation and hopefully 
downloadable link since I ordered it this weekend. I'm glad you got the Zip 
folder to open Yay!

Allison

On Jun 6, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Carolyn wrote:

 Allison:  Corrrection:  I was able to expand and copy and paste.
 
 Carolyn
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Carolyn wrote:
 
 Hi Allison:
 Just wanted to let you know your suggestion worked.  I was unable to open 
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 I did interact and paste in the right folder.  Thanks.
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Audio Hijack Pro alternatives?

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
I searched the forums for an alternative to Audio Hijack pro but did
not find one.  Is there an alterntive to this program?  Is this
program fully acesible, if not, where does it lack accessability .
Can you edit your recorded podcasts with this program too, or does it
just record sound?  If you cannot edit podcasts or audio with this
program, which is is the most accesible program on the mac for audio
editing?
Any suggestions are welcomed, and thanks for your feedback.
Alfredo

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Re: world clock

2010-06-06 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, 
This is somewhat off-topic, but are there a lot of widgets, and what are 
widgets? 

On 06/06/2010, at 12:53 in the Afternoon, william lomas wrote:

 it does thanks
 
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Well, as always I learned something new. I didn't know there was a world 
 clock wigit, or even how to download wigits. I know the UK is 5 hours ahead 
 of us I believe. So it is 12-29 here so it is 5-29 PM there. I don't know if 
 that helps, my sweetheart is in Spain and he is six hours ahead of me.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jun 6, 2010, at 11:28 AM, william lomas wrote:
 
 hi all, how do I use the world clock widget?
 I can set a city but I just see AM or PM nt the actual time. I am trying to 
 find out what time it is in the UK these days if it is around twelve PM EDT
 
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Re: Audio Hijack Pro alternatives?

2010-06-06 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Alfredo,

As far as alternaties to Audio Hijack I don't know of any. It is fully 
accessible once you get the hang of interacting with the toolbar and the 
checkboxes. I'm not sure if you can edit podcasts with Audio Hijack. The best 
audio editing program I know of is Amadeus Pro. BOth Audio HiJack and Amadeus 
can be downloaded and used as demo versions for a trial period. This is what I 
did, and after using both, decided to purchase them. I think Amadeus was about 
$40, and well worth the money. It's a very powerful sound editor. Audio Hijack 
was about $30 I think. I hope this helps. I recorded a podcast on Amadues Pro 
which you can find at:
http://gwenna.podbean.com Have a wonderful day.

Allison

On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Alfredo wrote:

 I searched the forums for an alternative to Audio Hijack pro but did
 not find one.  Is there an alterntive to this program?  Is this
 program fully acesible, if not, where does it lack accessability .
 Can you edit your recorded podcasts with this program too, or does it
 just record sound?  If you cannot edit podcasts or audio with this
 program, which is is the most accesible program on the mac for audio
 editing?
 Any suggestions are welcomed, and thanks for your feedback.
 Alfredo
 
 I still hav ethe audioGraphing calculator program for sale, send me an
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A couple of questions about the Macbook

2010-06-06 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
If I buy my Macbook from The Apple Store, will I still get my Ipod Touch with 
it? And if I buy it at the store, can I get a student discount?
Courtney

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What computer user classification would you fall into?

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
I am tring to categorize mac users into classifications base on the
type of programs that you use.  I have complied the following
classifications os far.
Media user, uses programs such as DVD ReMastwe, Rip It, ITunes, and
watches DVD and podcasts on his computer, etc.
Student, uses programs such as text edit, the build in dictionary on
the Mac, and the internet for reaseaching his class materials when
needed, as well as for communication with school and classmates.
Professionals, use programs orientated more for business use, such as
a podcast creator to create podcast to sell, uses widgets on the
dashboard to know what the value of their stocks are at, uses internet
for communication and to expand their network of people they know.
Casual user, this person basically uses the computer from time to
time, almost every day, to check email, organize themselves with
calendar and contacts, and browses the web to shop and comminicate
with others.

Any other classifications I am missing?  I do not want to have power
user, or geek, or novice computer user classficiations, as this
classficiation are not descritive, or rather, a person that uses a
computer for school, can be a novice user or a geek.  A person that
uses the computer for work, such as a profrssional, is first classifed
as a professional, then what other classifcation they fall in order.
For example, Professional, studnet, casual user, media.  You cannot do
this type of hierarchical classification with novice, geek and power
user and the such classifcation model.  Basically those that use the
computer for work and programs that are work orientated, such as
IWorks and MS Word, would fall intot he professional category in this
model.  Students would fall into those that use computer for school
and programs orientated for school, such as the dictionary build into
the mac.  Any suggested classfications, would be appreciated, any
changes would be appreciated too.
alfredo

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Re: A couple of questions about the Macbook

2010-06-06 Thread Ana G
I bought my MacBook Pro from Amazon. The Amazon price is about 50 dollars 
less, and I didn't have to pay sales tax. that saved me a little less than 
200 dollars in total. that doesn't work, of course, if you want a custome 
system.


If you're a college student, you can probably get the student discount by 
buying through your university. The university here in town and about half 
of the community colleges in the area, sell PC's and Macs through their 
bookstores, which are open over the summer. The student discount is 
relatively small, roughly equalling the sales tax.


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Re: A couple of questions about the Macbook

2010-06-06 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
That's really awesome, thanks for the info.
Courtney
On 06/06/2010, at 11:23 in the Afternoon, Ana G wrote:

 I bought my MacBook Pro from Amazon. The Amazon price is about 50 dollars 
 less, and I didn't have to pay sales tax. that saved me a little less than 
 200 dollars in total. that doesn't work, of course, if you want a custome 
 system.
 
 If you're a college student, you can probably get the student discount by 
 buying through your university. The university here in town and about half of 
 the community colleges in the area, sell PC's and Macs through their 
 bookstores, which are open over the summer. The student discount is 
 relatively small, roughly equalling the sales tax.
 
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Re: A couple of questions about the Macbook

2010-06-06 Thread Alfredo
I had these same questions myself some time ago so I did my research.
I love saving money, and really have to since I am a college student.
I discovered that if you buy a mac book pro 13, the 2.4 GHZ model,
you would ultimately get a 21% overall discount.  Note this assumes
that you are a US student, get the 100 student rebate, get the 200 off
on the ITouch, and 100 rebate on a printer.  Then the next step would
be to sell the ITouch for 80% of its 200 value, so you would get 160
for it, on craigslist, and the printer for 80% of its value, and this
will give you 80 dollars.  So you would pay about 1630, after taxes,
upfront for the computer, and get a total of 100, +, 200, +, 100, +,
160, +, 80, =, 640 in discounts.
1640 minus, 640 =, 990 for the computer.  But this assumes that you
sell the ITouch and the printer for 80% of its cost, which can be
easily done for the ITouch but I would realistically get 70% for the
printer.  Also, note that you must get a printer that cost 100, not
more, and they have like 4 or 5 models to choose from at apple.  but
here is more.  Since of a bill past last year, you can put that 1630
on your taxes and the goverment will give you a 1630 toward your
taxes, this is only if you are astuent, and reinburse you back 50%,
or, 815, on your 2010 tax return.  So basically the 1199 mac, cost
you , 175, or so.  If you select a cheaper computer with thisstragety
you will get a larger return since your total taxes will be lower
becuse of the lower computer cost.  The only drawback for this
stragety is that you have to fork 1630 upfront, and htat you have to
sell the ITouch and printer, which if not, will add to your overall
cost.  This beats the amazon deal since you are only saving the taxes
you would pay for the computer, plus an extra 50, which is basically a
student discount for everyone.  Also you should consider the hassle of
going to the rebate, although apple states it simple and easy, I never
believe rebates.  They work but they are enver easy and convient.  I
might end up going for th eamazon deal since there is less hassle,
plus you also get the tax rebate on your 1200 purchase.  I hope I did
not confuse you, just helped you
alfredo

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Re: ONCE A ALBUM HAS BEEN DOWNLOADED AND IS IN YOUR ITUNE LIBRARY.

2010-06-06 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Kawal,

I don't know if you were aware but, the touch pro 2 supports AAC and AAC plus 
which are the files used by the iTunes store.

hth
On Jun 6, 2010, at 8:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 Hi All.
 
 As I told you all I finally downloaded my album which I'm pleased with.  I 
 wish to know, can I make the files as mp3 files now?  If so, how?  I haven't 
 got an Iphone yet as I'm waiting for the new one to come.  However, I'd like 
 to put these files onto my windows mobile device.  If someone could kindly 
 tell me how I can change the files to MP3 to put on my phone's storage card, 
 then I'd be grateful.  I know you can import your physical music CD as I've 
 done that before when I was using Itunes in windows before I bought this 
 excellent Mac Pro!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

2010-06-06 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Lol.  Not really.  You can extend the loops as long as you desired once your 
have dropped it into the timeline.  You just cut and paste.  Here goes a 
tutorial on how to do it.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/How%20to%20import%20your%20own%20samples%20into%20a%20garageband%20project.mp3
On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 Hi,
 I would wait until the new os or the fix or whatever comes out. I honestly 
 don't see the point in being able to get loops into a project, since one or 2 
 or however many bars the loops are are all we get. Once a loop is in the 
 timeline, we can't see it so we can't manipulate it in any way, so i honestly 
 don't see the point in this.
 I may be stupid, i probably am, but that's how i see it anyway.
 /Krister
 
 6 jun 2010 kl. 03.23 skrev clarence griffin:
 
 I would like to test this out when you get a chance... I am not at all a 
 programmer but I will do my part to help. I don't know if its just better to 
 wait a few days or so for the update though..
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 3:08 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi listers,
 
 I went rapidly through the motion needed for dragging a highlighted loop 
 into the timeline.
 
 Here is the script snippet:
 
 ttell application Extra Suites
 ES mouse down
 ES move mouse to scroll area 2 of window 1 of application Garage Band
 Es mouse up
 end tell
 
 
 I used the Extra suites OSAX extension and found the object and element 
 hierarchy through GUI scripting app UI browser.
 
 Now i am not sure about the syntax standards as there are parenthesys in 
 the UI browser and they might have to be included within the Applescript.
 
 If i get this to work, we can basically save 5 steps in one.
 
 
 If anyone wants to test this out with me, you're welcome to contact me off 
 list
 
 Cheers
 
 Yuma DX®
 
 
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 Tel: +64 210 22 77 190 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [bcab] End of Freedom?

2010-06-06 Thread Bryan Smart
Window Eyes will get the Jaws refugees. They are the only other professional 
screen reader for Windows. System Access, NVDA, and friends are not 
professional. I know that lots of people that spend most of their time in a web 
browser and chatting with friends on IM will disagree, but professionals need 
advanced support for Excel, support for Word that goes beyond just reading raw 
text, etc.

And, actually, Window Eyes will be in the same boat in only a year or two. You 
might not like high prices for pro level Windows screen readers, but that's 
what it takes on Windows to make something pro. Windows screen reading is a 
constant battle to keep supporting programs from version to version, as little 
changes in the program break your screen reader's previously great support. The 
screen reader companies make a lot of money off an initial sell, but, once 
practically everyone that can get a screen reader, has a screen reader, the 
market is saturated, and the only money that comes in is through upgrade fees. 
That just is barely enough money to keep going.

As much money as they'd been losing, FS had given up on support for any 
professional apps, outside of Microsoft Office, for the last few years, and 
supporting that suite of programs as their interfaces are completely overhauled 
each version became a all-consuming effort. If they wanted to do more than 
Office, they'd need to charge more money. The cheap-o and freebie screen 
readers aren't charging, but then they just don't support anything except 
leisure software.

Well, maybe GW Micro can hold things together for a few years with Window Eyes. 
If not, looks like blind people will be out of clarical jobs. Hope they all can 
move up to professional employment, or else they'll be moving down to SSI 
checks.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kaare Dehard
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 2:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [bcab] End of Freedom?

I feel as sorry for the stupid or missinformed employers who will force the job 
losses. There are other windows based screen readers out there, some with 
plenty of scripting capabilities, such as window-eyes whos scripting fits more 
in to the modern age. We can't expect them all to addopt macs:) but we can 
pitty them their stupidity if they don't see that the wold wasn't created in 6 
days for the blind by freedom:).
On 2010-06-05, at 2:21 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 I agree with you.
 Donna
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 
 I feel sorry for the people who will loose their jobs.
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 I certainly agree. Yay, yay, no more overpriced, unfair JAWS.
 Courtney
 
 On 05/06/2010, at 1:19 in the Afternoon, Olivia Norman wrote:
 
 YAY! YAY! YAY! Goodbye Jaws! :) :) :) :) Innovation distinguishes 
 between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs
 
 On Jun 5, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those people 
 who run Fusion on their Macs.
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com
 Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00
 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com
 Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Colin r. Howard 
 co...@pobox.com
 To: b...@freelists.org; access...@freelists.org; 
 av...@googlegroups.com; ntexpr...@googlegroups.com; 
 jaws...@freelists.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM
 Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom?
 
 
 Greetings,
 
 I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind 
 Audio List which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or 
 AccessUK groups.
 
 Ought we to give much credence to this?
 
 I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound.
 
 From: Otto Zamora donttreado...@bellsouth.net
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400
 
 Morning,
 
 In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference 
 Freedom Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw.
 Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on  a 
 flag by an analyst.
 Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising 
 given the economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell 
 off some of their division, mainly their JFW area.
 I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering 
 that there is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only 
 $700.
 Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to 
 get the package, there is a browser, along with a customed and 
 fully accessible web sites, word processing, and E mail.
 all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as 
 individual program.
 ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful 
 tool indeed for the kind of money they are asking for.
 Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling 
 

RE: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

2010-06-06 Thread Bryan Smart
Without commenting on the specific situation of copying loops in to GarageBand, 
just want to point out that learning AppleScript won't teach you anything about 
Objective-C. They're different, in practically every way. Java is more like 
Objective-C. Even C#.net is more like Objective-C.

Bryan

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

No you are not stupid, and just as you are entitled to your opinion, i am 
entitled to try and find a solution. It's only advantageous to me as it allows 
me to learn the intricacies of not only the garage band workflow but also of 
applescript, which itself will lead me to figure a mental map on objective c.

I'm a curious person by nature and like to find things out, a detective work of 
some sorts. And this brings me intuition and creativity.


And if somehow it can help others, then perfect. I don't like sitting my arse 
just waiting for a fix. I like fixing things or finding ways to do things when 
i buy a product So that it does what i want it to do. 

Anyway i found some more solutions out of this so its all good

Cheers

Yuma DX(r)

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RE: Considering purchasing an iPad, but ...

2010-06-06 Thread Bryan Smart
Yeh. I wouldn't get an iPad for just books, when other devices will do that.
 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kaare Dehard
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Considering purchasing an iPad, but ...

Hi Mike, I have sort have experimented with an ipad, and I was able to read the 
ebooks on there. Also any epub format is able to be imported to the ipad. 

Also acording to rumor, os 4 is supposed to offer ibooks for iphone/ipod 
touch... Hopefully after wwdc, this will be clarified.
On 2010-06-06, at 1:20 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 As the subject implies, I am considering purchasing an iPad, primarily 
 because I want to read E-books.  Here are some questions I have:
 
 1.  Can one use the iPad in conjunction with Voice Over to read E-books 
 purchased through the iTunes store?  If there are limitations, what are they?
 
 2.  Can E-books purchased from other sources such as Amazon be read on the 
 iPad with VO?
 
 3.  Since I am studying, I am wondering what percentage of university-level 
 textbooks are available in a form that can be read on the iPad.
 
 4.  Lastly, I have a Mac Book which I love.  Is there software out there that 
 would allow me to read textbooks on my Mac Book, thereby perhaps 
 circumventing the need to purchase the iPad?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Mike
 
 
 
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can't forward anything in Mail

2010-06-06 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
I can't forward messages in Mail. It looks like it sends, but the peole on the 
receiving end never get it. I just press the forward button in the toolbar. Am 
I doing something wrong?
Courtney

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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

2010-06-06 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Applescript is object oriented just as objective c is.

This is how i could progress, from simple English understanding the concept of 
countenance and in parallel explore objective c.

So yes, they are actually related to what i do, since i work on automating 
things at my work place and learn programming in objective C for my iphone dev 
cell.

Cheers

Yuma DX®



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RE: Programmers Editor

2010-06-06 Thread Bryan Smart
I haven't figured out a way to start it, but VoiceOver seems to be included 
with the simulator.

Won't do you much good, though. No way to design your user interface for the 
iPhone, unless you create all of the user interface objects by hand in code. 
Interface Builder, where you'd normally make the interface, isn't accessible, 
and my RenaissanceX project can only make desktop interfaces right now. I'd 
hoped to port it to iPhone OS fairly quick, but that's taking more work than 
I'd thought. Apple doesn't exactly use Cocoa on the iPhone. Cocoa Touch might 
sound like a similar API, but it is quite different.

Bryan

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Programmers Editor

how about the simulator? is it accessible yet?  I really want to make an iphone 
web ap for my business, but the last time i checked, the software for creating 
those wasn't accessible yet.  any news? thanks, Max On Jun 4, 2010, at 12:24 
AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 Xcode. It's completely accessible.

 Bryan

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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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 ] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
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 Subject: Programmers Editor

 Hi Bryan,
 What editor do you use for writing code on the Mac?

 Thanks,

 Doug

 On 2010-06-04, at 2:27 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 No. This isn't possible.

 You can save and load VoiceOver settings, though. Look in the File 
 menu of the VoiceOver utility. I have different settings that I use 
 when programming, for example.

 Bryan

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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alfredo
 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:43 PM
 To: MacVisionaries
 Subject: Can you set application specific settings with Voice Over

 Hello all, I was reading the online Voice over tutorial from apple 
 and and kinda of questioning some aspects of the screen reader, with 
 the focus being excessive keyboard combinations as well as having to 
 arrow several times to reach some palces.  But hey, it is a learning 
 experience, and I like challenges.  My question is about the 
 verbosity settings.  Can you apply verbosity settings on a per 
 application basis?  For example I want to have my TextEdit 
 application have full attribute verbose, while I do not care if there 
 is bold or italize text on an article I am reading online.  I 
 currently just have the same verbose level in all my applications, 
 although I know they can be customize for each application.

 PS
 I have a brand new copy, unopened, latest version of the ViewPlus, 
 AudioGraphing Calculatorsoftware , for sale, its 300 US dollars at 
 their website.  I am selling mine for 250.  If anyone is interested 
 email me.  I live in san Diego, California, USA.
 Alfredo

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RE: Programmers Editor

2010-06-06 Thread Bryan Smart
You can set VoiceOver keys to trigger AppleScript scripts. AppleScripts can 
send commands to applications, including VoiceOver. So, working that way, you 
can make a VoiceOver key, that triggers a script, that tells VoiceOver to do 
something.

Bryan

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On Behalf Of Alfredo
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:07 AM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Programmers Editor

I assume you can have different Voice Over settings on your hard drive and then 
load them whenever you want right?  Thanks for the info.
Also can you script hotkey combinations, like for example, in jaws I have a 
small function that calls the search feature in jaws, then other scripts call 
this function, with a combination of a keystroke, and then performs a search on 
a website and presses that link/button.
For example, I have ti so that when I press Control, Shift, I, assuming I an on 
my gmail page on internet explorer, it will search for the word inbox and 
then press it, if it does not find that word, then it will find refresh and 
then click that.  This way I can refresh my inbox really fast, whenever I want, 
regardless of what window I am in Gmail.  I know you can just press the f5 key, 
but I do not know if this will take my to the main page of my GMail account, 
plus I have to reach over for f5.  Anyway, can you do something like this with 
Scripting provided by the Mac OS for Voice over?
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RE: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

2010-06-06 Thread Bryan Smart
OK. I wish you luck with it. For me, though, it would be confusing. The syntax 
is different. The APIs are different. I mean, Python is object oriented, too, 
but looks nothing like an Objective-C program. As long as it works for you, 
though.

Bryan

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Subject: Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

Applescript is object oriented just as objective c is.

This is how i could progress, from simple English understanding the concept of 
countenance and in parallel explore objective c.

So yes, they are actually related to what i do, since i work on automating 
things at my work place and learn programming in objective C for my iphone dev 
cell.

Cheers

Yuma DX(r)



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Macbook and first charge

2010-06-06 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
Is it all right to use and setup the Macbook during the first charge?
Courtney

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Re: Macbook and first charge

2010-06-06 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Yes. You can set up the mac while it's charging. 
On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 Is it all right to use and setup the Macbook during the first charge?
 Courtney
 
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Re: Macbook and first charge

2010-06-06 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
Coolness, thank you so much, I appreciate it. I think I might be getting my 
Macbook today.
Courtney
On 07/06/2010, at 1:11 in the morning, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:

 Yes. You can set up the mac while it's charging. 
 On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is it all right to use and setup the Macbook during the first charge?
 Courtney
 
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Re: Macbook and first charge

2010-06-06 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
You're welcome. 
On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:05 AM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 Coolness, thank you so much, I appreciate it. I think I might be getting my 
 Macbook today.
 Courtney
 On 07/06/2010, at 1:11 in the morning, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
 
 Yes. You can set up the mac while it's charging. 
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 Hi,
 Is it all right to use and setup the Macbook during the first charge?
 Courtney
 
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Re: Applescript for automatically dragging a loop to the timeline

2010-06-06 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
I know i like confusion, it allows me to put order in it :)

Cnsidering that i know 7 languages fluently, written and read, having 
applescript and objective c as my night table books or ipad in my case, is like 
strolling through another set of idions to decipher 

I'm sure there are myriads other ways to understand the similarities between 
languages but both applescript and objective c are polar continuations of my 
flash actionscript days, and they both fill what i need to do.

This said, it's definetely better to learn the language in a classroom with 
appointed times for these brain mash marathons.

Yuma DX®

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Current Educational Promo and Purchasing at Apple Store [was Re: A couple of questions about the Macbook]

2010-06-06 Thread Esther

Hi Courtney,

You wrote:

If I buy my Macbook from The Apple Store, will I still get my Ipod  
Touch with it? And if I buy it at the store, can I get a student  
discount?

Courtney


You've had a few replies, but I think you are referring to Apple's  
current Back to School promotion.  A couple of specific alerts about  
this.  This is being advertised in the U.S. as Buy a Mac for college,  
and get a free iPod touch, and appears in the current Apple promotion  
pages:

http://www.apple.com/promo/
The default iPod Touch being offered in the promo is the 8GB model  
that is not VoiceOver compatible.  You can apply the $199 credit  
towards the purchase of the 32GB or 64GB iPod Touch 3GS.  Also (apart  
from this promo), there's a recycling program discount that allows you  
to get a 10 per cent discount on any iPod you purchase when you bring  
in an old iPod at the same time you purchase the new one at an Apple  
Store. (This doesn't work for Shuffles, and you can't apply the  
discount to an iPhone, but it does work for the iPod Touch -- in Apple  
Stores, only, but in the U.S., Canada, and U.K.)  If you want to join  
Audible.com as a new listener, you can get $100 off the purchase price  
of an Audible ready device from Amazon.com, while supplies last.  This  
also includes the iPod Touch models (but not the iPhone). See this  
archived post for details and links:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg16992.html 


(iPod Recyling Program and other discounts for the iPod Touch)

Getting back to purchasing a Macbook at the Apple Store: although you  
can't buy custom machines (e.g., largest, fastest hard drive), you can  
buy more memory.  You'll get the educational discount (not a large  
discount for memory), but they'll also credit the cost of the default  
memory units against the price of the new memory you buy, and install  
this for you before you leave the store.  This is something you may  
want to consider, if you're thinking about sometime expanding memory.   
The new unibody models have really small screws, and this may be well  
worth while for you.


Also, my experience has been that if there is any issue at all with  
your Macbook or iPod, and you take it back to the Apple Store, even  
outside the 15-day window for returns, they'll simply swap out a new  
model for you rather than making you send yours in for repairs, if  
they verify there's a problem that can't easily be fixed.  They'll  
also migrate your old system to the new laptop, etc. if you want.


HTH

Cheers,

Esther



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