Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[brandt]

I am sorry to say that you're mistaken. I've searched on boath the iPod and 
the computer just in case of typing error, and no go, neither searching for 
chess wise, chess-wise or Marcel Nijman braught any desirable results.


I think resorting to my technicaly non legal american account is the thing 
to do in this case.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games 
released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch



If you having difficulty locating the games, try searching for Marcel Nijman 
, which is the developer's name. He informed me that he checked since 
someone else was having trouble locating them and he said they are available 
in the South African store.


Scott





On Feb 4, 2011, at 2:25 PM, brandt wrote:

once again South Africa is forgotten. They always say an app is available 
worldwide, but rarely is it actually true.  I have emailed many developers 
asking why they clame an app is available everyware, when it's just not 
the case.


Are there anyware we can go to regarding this at apple themselves?

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- Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games 
released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch



Colin,

I have no idea, but it is unlikely. Converting an iOS app to run on the 
Mac platform is not impossible perhaps, but would not be trivial by any 
stretch since your talking about a complete change to the interface as far 
as how you would interact with it. In other words, going from a 
touch-screen to a keyboard or other input method. There is an accessible 
chess app on the Mac in the APplications folder. You can choose to have 
the application speak the moves of the computer.

Scott





On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Colin M wrote:


Hi Scott!
Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at 
all possible!

All the best!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:


Hi Jim,

ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a 
chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them 
all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. 
The right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will check this 
out, but Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be working on 
these. You would not know this necessarily, but Marcel took a game that 
was not completely  accessible and especially with regard to the game 
board and made it fully accessible (game board primarily) within two 
weeks or so. So, there will be issues yet and any feedback is 
appreciated and please share with Marcel, via this list, or send 
directly to me, and I will see your issues are presented. Marcel has 
done something that no one else has and I tried working with another 
developer of a chess app that cost twice what Chess-Wise Pro costs and 
he has yet to make his game accessible. Marcel's enthusiasm and interest 
in making his games accessible speaks volumes about him and his 
commitment  to a quality experience. Now so I don't sound like a 
salesman, I did purchase these games, I got no free codes or any such 
thing. However, purchasing any or all of his accessible games will 
support his efforts and is appreciated. :)


Thanks,
Scott





On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:


I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
definately say so in the app store.

My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?

Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!

Jim

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:

Greetings All,

Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel 
Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his 
other game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: 
Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now 
available worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: 
English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add 
Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. The viphone 
mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were 
instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to 
Marcel during this process.


Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they w

trouble with xmradio site

[chad]

hi has anyone had trouble with the xmradio site i tried to listen online and 
got a blank page i sent them a e mail i think there doing maintance
also tried it with pulsar and got an error saying could not find the loggin page

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Re: GParted accessibil

[Sarah Alawami]

Yrah I just tried to go to disk utility/partitions and then got this whenI 
clicked on my boot  camp utility.

This partition can not be modified.
Size: 108.11 GB
 Contextual status, displayed if necessary

It is 108 gigs. I watn it to be about 70 gigs. I don't need all that space as 
all I use windows for is spl and klango  and some other things.

On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> If you boot into vinux it's usable. I used it a couple months ago
> having not used orca for about a year and found it easy enough.
> Although, using it does seem sort of pointless when you have disk utility.
> 
> On 05/02/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> Yeah which I'm not. lol! I"m still getting used to voice over. Hehaha
>> On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>> 
>>> Gparted is not accessible using voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Quoting from their web page "gparted is developed on Linux using
>>> Gnome and X windows.  It can be used by other operating systems such
>>> as mac and Windows bu booting off the gparted live disk."
>>> 
>>> So, it is possible that gparted my be accessible using a linux screen
>>> reader like orca, but I wouldn't recommend going that route unless
>>> you're already comfortable with a Gnome based screen reader.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 04:48:11PM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 Hello. Is GParted accessibil? ahere is a link at
 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ for more info. I don't know anything
 about this kind of stuff so any help please.
 
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Re: GParted accessibil

[Sarah Alawami]

except disk utility will not modify the bootcamp partition. it clearly states 
this in the partitions tab.
On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> If you boot into vinux it's usable. I used it a couple months ago
> having not used orca for about a year and found it easy enough.
> Although, using it does seem sort of pointless when you have disk utility.
> 
> On 05/02/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> Yeah which I'm not. lol! I"m still getting used to voice over. Hehaha
>> On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>> 
>>> Gparted is not accessible using voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Quoting from their web page "gparted is developed on Linux using
>>> Gnome and X windows.  It can be used by other operating systems such
>>> as mac and Windows bu booting off the gparted live disk."
>>> 
>>> So, it is possible that gparted my be accessible using a linux screen
>>> reader like orca, but I wouldn't recommend going that route unless
>>> you're already comfortable with a Gnome based screen reader.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 04:48:11PM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 Hello. Is GParted accessibil? ahere is a link at
 http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ for more info. I don't know anything
 about this kind of stuff so any help please.
 
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Re: GParted accessibil

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

If you boot into vinux it's usable. I used it a couple months ago
having not used orca for about a year and found it easy enough.
Although, using it does seem sort of pointless when you have disk utility.

On 05/02/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> Yeah which I'm not. lol! I"m still getting used to voice over. Hehaha
> On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>
>> Gparted is not accessible using voiceover.
>>
>> Quoting from their web page "gparted is developed on Linux using
>> Gnome and X windows.  It can be used by other operating systems such
>> as mac and Windows bu booting off the gparted live disk."
>>
>> So, it is possible that gparted my be accessible using a linux screen
>> reader like orca, but I wouldn't recommend going that route unless
>> you're already comfortable with a Gnome based screen reader.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 04:48:11PM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> Hello. Is GParted accessibil? ahere is a link at
>>> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ for more info. I don't know anything
>>> about this kind of stuff so any help please.
>>>
>>> S
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Re: GParted accessibil

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah which I'm not. lol! I"m still getting used to voice over. Hehaha
On Feb 4, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:

> Gparted is not accessible using voiceover.
> 
> Quoting from their web page "gparted is developed on Linux using
> Gnome and X windows.  It can be used by other operating systems such
> as mac and Windows bu booting off the gparted live disk."
> 
> So, it is possible that gparted my be accessible using a linux screen
> reader like orca, but I wouldn't recommend going that route unless
> you're already comfortable with a Gnome based screen reader.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 04:48:11PM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> Hello. Is GParted accessibil? ahere is a link at 
>> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ for more info. I don't know anything about 
>> this kind of stuff so any help please.
>> 
>> S
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Facebook and Adium Still havingissues

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

All:
When I sign in, I receive an invalid jabber ID msg. My options are set to 
chat.facebook.com. User ID is set to bucc7465@bellso...@chat.facebook.com Port 
is 522.

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Re: GParted accessibil

[Jim Barbour]

Gparted is not accessible using voiceover.

Quoting from their web page "gparted is developed on Linux using
Gnome and X windows.  It can be used by other operating systems such
as mac and Windows bu booting off the gparted live disk."

So, it is possible that gparted my be accessible using a linux screen
reader like orca, but I wouldn't recommend going that route unless
you're already comfortable with a Gnome based screen reader.

Jim

On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 04:48:11PM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> Hello. Is GParted accessibil? ahere is a link at 
> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ for more info. I don't know anything about 
> this kind of stuff so any help please.
> 
> S
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GParted accessibil

[Sarah Alawami]

Hello. Is GParted accessibil? ahere is a link at 
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ for more info. I don't know anything about this 
kind of stuff so any help please.

S

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Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short

[f10r14n]

Hello y' all,

As a matter of fact, I agree with both sides on some account. Before
you shoot me for it let me explain.
First, Kevin's side. He has been trying to transition to the mac, for
example for his school needs I think. For this, he has tried and
failed to do the tasks he could do on Windows. Of course this could be
due to infamiliarity with the mac system, however Mac is supposed to
be intuitive and easy to use. Then, why is it so hard to do what he is
trying to do?
Look, I understand that knowing a system is required before you can
actually claim it doesn't work the right way, but I think that six
months is a lot of time to learn voiceOver and I happen to know he has
been at this for hours before even considering doing the episode.
The way I see it on this thread is that he is requesting aid in fixing
his supposed inexperience , but all he gets back is flames about him
critisizing voiceOver without knowing it. If there's something that
scares away a newbie, it is that imnsho.

If i knew how to fix these issues, I would write them up. But
apparently noone here knows a foolproof solution to the issues
described both above and in the podcast. If i am wrong kindly correct
me but this is my current view on the situation.

Regards,
Florian

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Re: updates to one password.

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep, they've done a good job, accessibility improvements have been on the 
drawing board for quite some time, glad I invested in 1 Password across all my 
computing and mobile platforms here.


On 05/02/2011, at 4:41 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> Tidbits.com is announcing that One Password, the program that stores your 
> passwords and credit card information has been updated with changes to make 
> it more accessible in Voiceover.
> 
> Jonathan 
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Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack

[Dane Trethowan]

I echo that, very grateful for the scripting suggestions, learn something every 
day .


On 05/02/2011, at 12:10 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

> Dear Darcy and others,
> 
> Thanks so much for your help; it's great to have such assistance!
> 
> I will try this out tomorrow, Saturday and, hopefully, it will be ready to go 
> when I need it at work next week.
> 
> My thanks to all,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 3,Feb,2011, at 7:03 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:
> 
>> Hi Michael.  You can accomplish what you want with this simple AppleScript
>> Since I can't attach files to list messages, I'll paste the text of the 
>> script below.
>> 
>> tell application "Audio Hijack Pro"
>>  set theSession to the first session whose name contains "Skype"
>>  tell theSession to start hijacking
>>  tell theSession to start recording
>> end tell
>> 
>> What you want to do is open up script editor, and copy the above script in, 
>> and save the file.  
>> I'm assuming you're using Snow Leopard.  If so, you can attach the script to 
>> a keyboard commander key.  Then you can run it from anywhere.
>> Hope this made sense.  If not, let me know and I'll be glad to help you out 
>> further.
>> Darcy
>> 
>> On 2011-02-03, at 8:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings!
>>> 
>>> Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. 
>>>  There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were 
>>> able to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing 
>>> afterwards, my life would be a lot easier.
>>> 
>>> I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there 
>>> was a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey 
>>> or something) to immediately start recording a conversation.
>>> 
>>> Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific 
>>> instructions on how to set this feature up?  If not, could someone provide 
>>> some assistance?  Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call 
>>> with this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in 
>>> real time, as it were.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
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Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack

[Sarah Alawami]

Actually theer is an instent hijack, or justselect the skype session and hit 
cmd r. skype will start and recording will begin.

Good luck.
On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Yes Audio Hijack Pro will record from Skype as you know but there is not a 
> way as far as I can tell to trigger Audio Hijack Pro - as you can with Total 
> Recorder - to start recording from another location, for example with Total 
> Recorder you ca use a global hotkey to trigger recording, stop and so on but 
> with Audio Hijack Pro you have to have the application in focus before 
> issuing a command so perhaps the way round this is to leave Audio Hijack Pro 
> recording all the time, the software won't record anything unless there's 
> something to be recorded so you won't be left with a whole heap of silent 
> passages in your recording.
> 
> I do a fiar bit of recording from Skyp with Audio Hijack Pro and I prefer to 
> stop the recorder so I can catalogue what's been recorded in a similar way to 
> what you've just described and then start the recorder then, it just sits 
> idle waiting for the next call or whatever.  To start recording in Audio 
> Hijack Pro, select "Skype" from the components and sessions list and then 
> type command-r.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> On 04/02/2011, at 12:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Greetings!
>> 
>> Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype.  
>> There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able 
>> to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing 
>> afterwards, my life would be a lot easier.
>> 
>> I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there 
>> was a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or 
>> something) to immediately start recording a conversation.
>> 
>> Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific 
>> instructions on how to set this feature up?  If not, could someone provide 
>> some assistance?  Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with 
>> this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real 
>> time, as it were.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Scott Howell]

If you having difficulty locating the games, try searching for Marcel Nijman , 
which is the developer's name. He informed me that he checked since someone 
else was having trouble locating them and he said they are available in the 
South African store.

Scott





On Feb 4, 2011, at 2:25 PM, brandt wrote:

> once again South Africa is forgotten. They always say an app is available 
> worldwide, but rarely is it actually true.  I have emailed many developers 
> asking why they clame an app is available everyware, when it's just not the 
> case.
> 
> Are there anyware we can go to regarding this at apple themselves?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Brandt Steenkamp
> 
> MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com
> 
> Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
> 
> AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
> 
> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games 
> released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch
> 
> 
> Colin,
> 
> I have no idea, but it is unlikely. Converting an iOS app to run on the Mac 
> platform is not impossible perhaps, but would not be trivial by any stretch 
> since your talking about a complete change to the interface as far as how you 
> would interact with it. In other words, going from a touch-screen to a 
> keyboard or other input method. There is an accessible chess app on the Mac 
> in the APplications folder. You can choose to have the application speak the 
> moves of the computer.
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott!
>> Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
>> Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all 
>> possible!
>> All the best!
>> Colin
>> Qapla!
>> 
>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
>> On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a 
>>> chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them 
>>> all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. The 
>>> right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will check this out, but 
>>> Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be working on these. You would 
>>> not know this necessarily, but Marcel took a game that was not completely  
>>> accessible and especially with regard to the game board and made it fully 
>>> accessible (game board primarily) within two weeks or so. So, there will be 
>>> issues yet and any feedback is appreciated and please share with Marcel, 
>>> via this list, or send directly to me, and I will see your issues are 
>>> presented. Marcel has done something that no one else has and I tried 
>>> working with another developer of a chess app that cost twice what 
>>> Chess-Wise Pro costs and he has yet to make his game accessible. Marcel's 
>>> enthusiasm and interest in making his games accessible speaks volumes about 
>>> him and his commitment  to a quality experience. Now so I don't sound like 
>>> a salesman, I did purchase these games, I got no free codes or any such 
>>> thing. However, purchasing any or all of his accessible games will support 
>>> his efforts and is appreciated. :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>> 
 I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
 definately say so in the app store.
 
 My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
 but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
 couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?
 
 Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!
 
 Jim
 
 On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
> Greetings All,
> 
> Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel 
> Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other 
> game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, 
> Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available 
> worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: English, 
> Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and 
> French translations in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott 
> Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in providing 
> input, feedback and other information to Marcel during this process.
> 
> Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
> correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version 
> of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro 
> version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the 
> Chess and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi 
> Apps. I be

Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Jim Barbour]

These links are specifically for the US.  You can just search the
itunes app store for chess wise.  It *should* be in the Canadian
store, from what I've read on this list.

Jim

On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 04:45:19PM -0330, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> I just tried accessing the below iTunes link and get a message that "your 
> request could not be completed." Could someone else in Canada confirm if 
> these apps are avalable in Canada? I may be just doing something wrong here.  
> 
> Doug  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2011-02-03, at 10:24 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> 
> > Greetings All,
> > 
> > Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel 
> > Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other 
> > game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, 
> > Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide 
> > in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, 
> > German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations 
> > in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller 
> > in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other 
> > information to Marcel during this process.
> > 
> > Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
> > correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of 
> > the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version 
> > to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and 
> > Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I 
> > believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one 
> > hundred percent.
> > 
> > I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and 
> > Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the 
> > board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the 
> > board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one 
> > occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece 
> > you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one 
> > finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please 
> > note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's 
> > accessible form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it 
> > is a very feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it 
> > fully accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps 
> > provide feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the 
> > accessibility features.
> > 
> > Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store:
> > http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122
> > 
> > Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store:
> > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8
> > 
> > Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store:
> > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Bryan
> > 
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Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Doug Lawlor]

I just tried accessing the below iTunes link and get a message that "your 
request could not be completed." Could someone else in Canada confirm if these 
apps are avalable in Canada? I may be just doing something wrong here.  

Doug

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-02-03, at 10:24 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> Greetings All,
> 
> Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's 
> Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps to 
> make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and 
> Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store and 
> in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. 
> Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. 
> The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were 
> instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel 
> during this process.
> 
> Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
> correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of 
> the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version 
> to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and 
> Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe 
> Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent.
> 
> I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and 
> Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the 
> board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the 
> board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one 
> occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you 
> want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one 
> finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please 
> note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible 
> form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very 
> feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully 
> accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide 
> feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility 
> features.
> 
> Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store:
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122
> 
> Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store:
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8
> 
> Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store:
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8
> 
> Cheers,
> Bryan
> 
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Re: router issues...

[Ed Worrell]

Thanks Scott.

Those where the first things that I tried. I am connected and airport is on. I 
just can't see the router or anything else on the network. I have a hard drive 
hooked up to the router and now I can't use the drive. The wierd thing is my 
wifes computer can't see my laptop either. I am using a mac book pro if that 
helps. Is there some setting that I am missing that I need to change to be seen 
on the netork. I have sharing turned on and a public folder set to be visible. 

So I am not sure what the issue is.

Thanks again ED

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Re: router issues...

[Scott Granados]

Ed, make sure your airport device is turned on.

Then use the list of networks and make sure you can pick up your SSID or 
network name, it should appear in the list.

If you see this network pick it and press enter.  If you're required you'll 
have to enter your password also known as a key.

If the key is already known or the router is insecure you will not be prompted. 
 If you don't see your network listed then plug in directly to the router with 
a cable and see if that works.  Use the process of illimination to rule out 
issues.

Thanks
Scott

On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Ed Worrell wrote:

> Hello, I am having issues seeing my router or any other computers on my home 
> wireless network. I am using a netgear wireless router. I was able to see the 
> router the first day the network was up and going. I can't seem to figure it 
> out. I have unplugged the router and reset my laptops wireless prefs. So if 
> anyone has any ideas please help.
> 
> Thanks in advance ED
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Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[brandt]

once again South Africa is forgotten. They always say an app is available 
worldwide, but rarely is it actually true.  I have emailed many developers 
asking why they clame an app is available everyware, when it's just not the 
case.


Are there anyware we can go to regarding this at apple themselves?

Regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com

Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games 
released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch



Colin,

I have no idea, but it is unlikely. Converting an iOS app to run on the Mac 
platform is not impossible perhaps, but would not be trivial by any stretch 
since your talking about a complete change to the interface as far as how 
you would interact with it. In other words, going from a touch-screen to a 
keyboard or other input method. There is an accessible chess app on the Mac 
in the APplications folder. You can choose to have the application speak the 
moves of the computer.

Scott





On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Colin M wrote:


Hi Scott!
Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all 
possible!

All the best!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:


Hi Jim,

ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a 
chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them 
all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. 
The right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will check this 
out, but Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be working on these. 
You would not know this necessarily, but Marcel took a game that was not 
completely  accessible and especially with regard to the game board and 
made it fully accessible (game board primarily) within two weeks or so. 
So, there will be issues yet and any feedback is appreciated and please 
share with Marcel, via this list, or send directly to me, and I will see 
your issues are presented. Marcel has done something that no one else has 
and I tried working with another developer of a chess app that cost twice 
what Chess-Wise Pro costs and he has yet to make his game accessible. 
Marcel's enthusiasm and interest in making his games accessible speaks 
volumes about him and his commitment  to a quality experience. Now so I 
don't sound like a salesman, I did purchase these games, I got no free 
codes or any such thing. However, purchasing any or all of his accessible 
games will support his efforts and is appreciated. :)


Thanks,
Scott





On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:


I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
definately say so in the app store.

My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?

Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!

Jim

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:

Greetings All,

Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel 
Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his 
other game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: 
Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now 
available worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: 
English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add 
Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. The viphone 
mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were 
instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to 
Marcel during this process.


Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version 
of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro 
version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the 
Chess and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi 
Apps. I believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our 
support one hundred percent.


I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard 
and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can 
navigate the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one 
finger around the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the 
name of a piece if one occupies that square. To make a move, use one 
finger to locate the piece you want to move, then double-tap. VO will 
announce "Selected." Now use one finger again to locate the destination 
square and double-tap again. Please note that this is considered a 
first version of this game in it's accessible form. Wh

router issues...

[Ed Worrell]

Hello, I am having issues seeing my router or any other computers on my home 
wireless network. I am using a netgear wireless router. I was able to see the 
router the first day the network was up and going. I can't seem to figure it 
out. I have unplugged the router and reset my laptops wireless prefs. So if 
anyone has any ideas please help.

Thanks in advance ED

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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #11 - Autobots Don't Read; or, the 800 Pound Inaccessible Gorilla

[Jim Barbour]

Omobi is one, Google goggles is another.

These are disucssed fairly often on viph...@googlegroups.com

http://groups.google.com/group/viphone

Jim

On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 11:16:41AM -0700, Ed Worrell wrote:
> Hi I did catch the name of the picture identifier app that  you talked about 
> i  this podcast. It was Omobi or something like that
> 
> Could you send me a link to the app in the app store or maybe just send me 
> the name of the app it sounds useful.
> 
> Thanks ED
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Re: [Mac-cessibility News] The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #11 - Autobots Don't Read; or, the 800 Pound Inaccessible Gorilla

[Ed Worrell]

Hi I did catch the name of the picture identifier app that  you talked about i  
this podcast. It was Omobi or something like that

Could you send me a link to the app in the app store or maybe just send me the 
name of the app it sounds useful.

Thanks ED

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updates to one password.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Tidbits.com is announcing that One Password, the program that stores your 
passwords and credit card information has been updated with changes to make it 
more accessible in Voiceover.

Jonathan 

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[Mac-cessibility News] The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #11 - Autobots Don't Read; or, the 800 Pound Inaccessible Gorilla

[Maccessibility]

The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #11 - Autobots Don't Read; or, the 800
Pound Inaccessible Gorilla

In this episode, our knights discuss The Mac AppStore, the inaccessibility of
e-reader apps, the launch of iPhone 4 on Verizon, audio games, the increasing
numbers of assistive technology apps for iOS, and more.
Show notes:

Matt Gemmel and the Case for Accessibility on iOS
Josh's pick - DollyDrive
Eric's pick - Star Wars Books and Timeline
Holly's picks - [...]

You can read the rest of this news item at:
http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/02/04/the-mac-cessibility-round-table-podcast-11-autobots-dont-read-or-the-800-pound-inaccessible-gorilla/

The Mac-cessibility Network
"...it's all within our reach..."
http://maccessibility.net

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Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short

[brandt]

I already did so, months ago, and that was what clinched the deal for me in 
the first place.


("voiceover is broken"( otherwise known as "voiceover on" almost made me 
reconsider, but I decided to stick to my guns on this one.


Regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Arrigo" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short


If you haven't already done so, you might check out my pod casts on 
blindcooltech for my voiceover experiences.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:44 AM, brandt wrote:


Hi Tim,

As a current windows user, I have to say that negative podcasts such as 
"Voiceover on" will keep the windows users, windows users and drive newby 
mac users away. I am still going to swich, but almost decided not to after 
listening to the first 6 episodes of "voiceover is broaken"


Regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com

Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
- Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short


Hi Kevin,

I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little 
annoyed with your approach and attitude presented within it.  While your 
comments below suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or 
workarounds, your tone within the podcast itself is very critical of VO. 
Much of this criticism, in my opinion, is due to a lack of experience with 
the product itself.  You and your partner appear well versed in the use of 
JAWS and are using that wealth of experience to attempt a comparison with 
a product that you do not have the same familiarity with.  Therefore, your 
conclusions seem rather tilted.


Now, I do appreciate your efforts in providing the podcast episodes, as 
such comparisons are useful.  Simply to eliminate the judgemental comments 
would make them more palatable from my prospective.  As I've noticed from 
much of the suggestions supplied by Anne Robertson, much of what you 
criticized with respect to VO is actually doable.  I might also add, that 
many of these are not necessarily "workarounds", but really just a 
different way of approaching things.  For the most part, we all have to 
realize that VO and the MacOS is not Windows, nor do I want it to be, so 
if we must do things a little differently, then so be it.


Now for some specifics:

• In Numbers, you made fun of Numbers saying "B4" with the word "Cell" and 
quipped about not needing to hear the word "Cell" since you knew that you 
were in a spreadsheet.  You also mentioned that there was no way that you 
could stop it from saying the word "Cell".  In this case, you are 
inaccurate, simply set your default verbosity to "Low" and VO will not say 
the word "Cell" anymore.


I will readily admit that JAWS handles MS products very well and I'm not 
trying to say that VO handles iWork just as well, my objections are with 
your perceived expertise with VO during the comparison and your 
over-critical tone.  Your obvious comfort level with JAWS allows for the 
ease of use whereas that same level of comfort is not apparent for VO. 
These inconsistencies are brought home considerably when I read the 
comments/suggestions from Anne.


Maybe, instead of making such judgements, you could preface your comments 
with phrases like, "In my experience with VO thus far", or " I haven't 
figured out how to do whatever yet, but there may be someone who's more 
familiar than me with it".  I feel that this would give your podcast a 
more professional tone and consequently, add validity to it.  In it's 
current state, I would not be inclined to listen to further episodes.


Just my thoughts.

Later...

On 2011-01-31, at 3:58 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer On podcast, where 
APple iWork and  Microsoft Office screen reader accessibility are 
compared.

http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com

If any are aware of  work-arounds, -, solutions or  any feedback , 
specifically on content; please provide it with   very specific  steps.


Apple Accessibility are made aware of all these issues, both text and 
audio  form, which they are more than fine with  the podcast.


Goal of VOiceOver On podcast is  to highlight   the good, bad and ugly of 
VoiceOver. THis allows for people to be aware. More importantly, for 
APple to be aware of issues in a variety of formats, which will allow for 
these issues to be addressed at a later point.


Kevin
,
On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:


You know, I'm not exactly the biggest apple fan on here, but if those
are all the bugs that are present in iWork, I have to say thats pretty
impressive. I can't right now, but I'm sure that if I had time, I
could come up with many 

Re: first impressions of the new Skype

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Hi, Seren; 
I did try command accent, to cycle through it, but that didn't work; I never 
tried windows chooser, and I will next time this happens. Thanks! :)

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Re: Numbers still speaking last column

[John André Netland]

Hi,

Did you try the menu option in Numbers where you can check/uncheck the first 
column to be a header column? I think I mentioned that in a previous message. 
VO will always announce the vertical and horizontal header column/row, unless 
you make a spreadsheet that does not have headers. You may also try the setting 
in the VoiceOver Utility app/verbocity/announcements for heading feedback when 
navigating tables.

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On 4. feb. 2011, at 14.31, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Is there any way to get Numbers to stop speaking the first column every time 
> i'm attempting to read the spread sheet? I did what Ann suggested, and it 
> still reads the balance in the first column along with the rest of the 
> information. I also set the verbosity to low and this didn't help either. I 
> know there is a way to do this I must be missing it. Can anyone help? THank 
> you in advance for any assistance you can provide.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Allison
> 
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Re: Adium and Facebook

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thanks!
On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Hello try this.
> : http://trac.adium.im/wiki/FacebookChat
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> All:
>> When I signed in on Adium, my Facebook account isn't showing up. It says I'm 
>> signed under account preferences, butnone of my FB contacts will appear. 
>> Other accounts are fine.
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Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Scott Howell]

Colin,

Good points and the trackpad is of course a possibility. I imagine you could 
present the idea to him, but he may be more interested in the iOS platform at 
this point. You can access the support link from within the iTunes store.
Scott





On Feb 4, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Scott!
> I knew about the chess on the Mac!
> It's the other games I was interested in!
> Ok making them keyboard friendly might be hard but those using track pads 
> either on there mbp's  or magic track pads could use the same gestures as the 
> I pad!
> Or have I got that wrong!
> I know that some people would like it keyboard friendly as well and I really 
> do not know how hard it is to reprogram software, but there is already 
> somethings you can do only with a track pad and not on the keyboard!
> And I do not know how many people would like mbp's  Imac versions but the 
> track pad might be the way to go!
> I did say if possible! :]
> All the best!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> 
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:35, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Colin,
>> 
>> I have no idea, but it is unlikely. Converting an iOS app to run on the Mac 
>> platform is not impossible perhaps, but would not be trivial by any stretch 
>> since your talking about a complete change to the interface as far as how 
>> you would interact with it. In other words, going from a touch-screen to a 
>> keyboard or other input method. There is an accessible chess app on the Mac 
>> in the APplications folder. You can choose to have the application speak the 
>> moves of the computer.
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Colin M wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott!
>>> Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
>>> Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all 
>>> possible!
>>> All the best!
>>> Colin
>>> Qapla!
>>> 
>>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>>> 
>>> On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Jim,
 
 ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a 
 chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them 
 all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. The 
 right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will check this out, 
 but Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be working on these. You 
 would not know this necessarily, but Marcel took a game that was not 
 completely  accessible and especially with regard to the game board and 
 made it fully accessible (game board primarily) within two weeks or so. 
 So, there will be issues yet and any feedback is appreciated and please 
 share with Marcel, via this list, or send directly to me, and I will see 
 your issues are presented. Marcel has done something that no one else has 
 and I tried working with another developer of a chess app that cost twice 
 what Chess-Wise Pro costs and he has yet to make his game accessible. 
 Marcel's enthusiasm and interest in making his games accessible speaks 
 volumes about him and his commitment  to a quality experience. Now so I 
 don't sound like a salesman, I did purchase these games, I got no free 
 codes or any such thing. However, purchasing any or all of his accessible 
 games will support his efforts and is appreciated. :)
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
 
> I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
> definately say so in the app store.
> 
> My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
> but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
> couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?
> 
> Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>> 
>> Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel 
>> Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his 
>> other game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: 
>> Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now 
>> available worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: 
>> English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, 
>> Czech and French translations in the next update. The viphone mailing 
>> list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in 
>> providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel during this 
>> process.
>> 
>> Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
>> correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version 
>> of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro 
>> version to support Marcel's work. The 

Re: first impressions of the new Skype

[Søren Jensen]

Hi Marc.

I'm sorry if this mail has been answered before. When this happens, you can 
choose the caller window by bringing up the window chooser in the skype window. 
When you get a call, a new window pops up and this window won't always be at 
the front which means it's hidden behind the Skype main window. Therefore you 
can find it using the window chooser.
Hope that helps and explain why it doesn't work all the time.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 03/02/2011 kl. 16.56 skrev Mark BurningHawk Baxter:

> Actually I am still having problems with this.  When I alt-tab into the Skype 
> window, after hearing the "you've got a call," announcement, sometimes the 
> accept/decline buttons are *NOT* anywhere I can find in that window with 
> either the VO cursor or the mouse pointer.  I was hoping this would be 
> better, but I still sometimes have to call people back once I find out who's 
> calling from the source list.
> 
> 
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RE: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Zachary Kline]

They're actually only for the iPhone and other i devices.
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:44:08 -0500, Brian Miller wrote:


>Are these Chess et al games only for the MAC, or can you pick them up in the
>iPhone app store and play them on the iPhone as well?
>
>Brian
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin M
>Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:30 AM
>To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>Cc: Colin M
>Subject: Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games
>released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch
>
>Hi Scott!
>Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
>Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all
>possible!
>All the best!
>Colin
>Qapla!
>
>Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>
>On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>>Hi Jim,
>>
>>ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a 
>>chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase 
>>them all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one 
>>move. The right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will 
>>check this out, but Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be 
>>working on these. You would not know this necessarily, but Marcel took 
>>a game that was not completely  accessible and especially with regard 
>>to the game board and made it fully accessible (game board primarily) 
>>within two weeks or so. So, there will be issues yet and any feedback 
>>is appreciated and please share with Marcel, via this list, or send 
>>directly to me, and I will see your issues are presented. Marcel has 
>>done something that no one else has and I tried working with another 
>>developer of a chess app that cost twice what Chess-Wise Pro costs and 
>>he has yet to make his game accessible. Marcel's enthusiasm and 
>>interest in making his games accessible speaks volumes about him and 
>>his commitment  to a quality experience. Now so I don't sound like a 
>>salesman, I did purchase these games, I got no free codes or any such 
>>thing. However, purchasing any or all of his accessible games will 
>>support his efforts and is appreciated. :)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>
>>>I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll 
>>>definately say so in the app store.
>>>
>>>My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible, 
>>>but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I 
>>>couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?
>>>
>>>Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
Greetings All,

Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel
>Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other
>game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise,
>Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide
>in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian,
>German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations
>in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller
>in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other
>information to Marcel during this process.

Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run
>correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of
>the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version
>to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and
>Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe
>Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred
>percent.

I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard
>and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate
>the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around
>the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if
>one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece
>you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one
>finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please
>note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible
>form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very
>feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully
>accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide
>feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility
>features.

Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122

Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store:
htt

RE: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Brian Miller]

Are these Chess et al games only for the MAC, or can you pick them up in the
iPhone app store and play them on the iPhone as well?

Brian
 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin M
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Colin M
Subject: Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games
released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

Hi Scott!
Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all
possible!
All the best!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a 
> chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase 
> them all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one 
> move. The right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will 
> check this out, but Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be 
> working on these. You would not know this necessarily, but Marcel took 
> a game that was not completely  accessible and especially with regard 
> to the game board and made it fully accessible (game board primarily) 
> within two weeks or so. So, there will be issues yet and any feedback 
> is appreciated and please share with Marcel, via this list, or send 
> directly to me, and I will see your issues are presented. Marcel has 
> done something that no one else has and I tried working with another 
> developer of a chess app that cost twice what Chess-Wise Pro costs and 
> he has yet to make his game accessible. Marcel's enthusiasm and 
> interest in making his games accessible speaks volumes about him and 
> his commitment  to a quality experience. Now so I don't sound like a 
> salesman, I did purchase these games, I got no free codes or any such 
> thing. However, purchasing any or all of his accessible games will 
> support his efforts and is appreciated. :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
> 
>> I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll 
>> definately say so in the app store.
>> 
>> My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible, 
>> but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I 
>> couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?
>> 
>> Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
>>> Greetings All,
>>> 
>>> Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel
Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other
game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise,
Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide
in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian,
German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations
in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller
in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other
information to Marcel during this process.
>>> 
>>> Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run
correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of
the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version
to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and
Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe
Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred
percent.
>>> 
>>> I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard
and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate
the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around
the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if
one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece
you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one
finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please
note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible
form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very
feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully
accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide
feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility
features.
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store:
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store:
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store:
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wi

Numbers still speaking last column

[Allison Manzino]

Hi all,

Is there any way to get Numbers to stop speaking the first column every time 
i'm attempting to read the spread sheet? I did what Ann suggested, and it still 
reads the balance in the first column along with the rest of the information. I 
also set the verbosity to low and this didn't help either. I know there is a 
way to do this I must be missing it. Can anyone help? THank you in advance for 
any assistance you can provide.

Sincerely,
Allison

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Re: Garag Band Question, Possible Screw-Up?

[Ricardo Walker]

Lol,

Yes.  Just press return to go to the beginning.

Ricardo Walker
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Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Phantom.Vader wrote:

> Hi again!
> 
> Ok.  I seem to have gotten my ability to re-size back thank goodness!
> But I still can't get my loop to play beyond its original four bars,
> and yes, I made sure to save before and after every re-size.  Any idea
> what I'm doing wrong?  Help!
> 
> Also, is there a keyboard shortcut to jump to the beginning of the
> song without having to scroll all the way over to the button?  Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 6:31 pm, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> Oh sure,
>> 
>> Because with quick nav on, you were really pressing VO left and right arrow 
>> when you were trying to stretch or loop your samples.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Phantom.Vader wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi people!
>> 
>>> Wow!  Thanks for the fast responses!  Awesome!
>> 
>>> Ricardo.  :-) Yes, I've listened to your tutorials.  They're awesome!
>>> Thanks so much for doing them!  They were a huge help getting
>>> started!  LOL otherwise, I don't think I'd have had a clue what any of
>>> that stuff meant!  I tried re-sizing with the cycling both on and off,
>>> though, and it still went all whacko.  Could the Quicknav thing have
>>> had something to do with it?  Because that does sound exactly like
>>> what was wrong with my keyboard.
>> 
>>> And thanks, both of you BTW, for the Quicknav tip.  It seems that I
>>> did indeed turn it on unintentionally, and now that I've turned it
>>> back off things seem to be back to normal.  Phew!  LOL I'll have to
>>> watch that though!  I don't even remember accidentally pressing both
>>> arrow-keys at the same time, but apparently I did!
>> 
>>> Anyway, thanks hugely for all the help, and keep it coming!
>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 1:43 pm, Colin M  wrote:
 Hi Phantom!
 First if you can find them Ricardo has posted links to gb6 they might be 
 useful to you!
 As far as your nav problems you might have quick nav on!
 To stop this just press the left and right arrows down at the same time!
 Vo should say quick nav on or off!
 hth Colin
 Qapla!
>> 
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
 On 2 Feb 2011, at 17:07, Phantom.Vader wrote:
>> 
> Hi people!
>> 
> First of all, I'm new to this list.  So hi all!  You've already been a
> huge help!  I've only had my Macbook Pro since November, and this list
> has already been invaluable - LOL if not to say a life-saver!
>> 
> Anyway, the Garage-Band question.  I pasted a loop into my song and
> stretched it out to the length of the other track so that they should
> match, but I'm still only hearing it for the first four bars.  What am
> I missing  Plus, I seem to have lost the ability to re-size and I'm
> not sure why.  But, when I try to resize my track, loop or window with
> the arrow-keys, it just dings at me and doesn't seem to be doing
> anything, regardless of whether VO-keys are locked or not )I lock them
> to perform the re-size command as that's the only way I can reach all
> those keys).  Anyway, what did I do??
>> 
> Also, on a side-note, is it possible to permanently lock the VO-keys?
> This happened to me once before where the keyboard is acting as though
> the VO-keys are locked even when they're not, and I can't figure out
> why it's doing that or how to undo it  And needless to say it's
> playing havoc with my navigation and editing!
>> 
> Anyway, thanks in advance, and all help appreciated!
> .
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Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack

[Michael Busboom]

Dear Darcy and others,

Thanks so much for your help; it's great to have such assistance!

I will try this out tomorrow, Saturday and, hopefully, it will be ready to go 
when I need it at work next week.

My thanks to all,

Mike

On 3,Feb,2011, at 7:03 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:

> Hi Michael.  You can accomplish what you want with this simple AppleScript
> Since I can't attach files to list messages, I'll paste the text of the 
> script below.
> 
> tell application "Audio Hijack Pro"
>   set theSession to the first session whose name contains "Skype"
>   tell theSession to start hijacking
>   tell theSession to start recording
> end tell
> 
> What you want to do is open up script editor, and copy the above script in, 
> and save the file.  
> I'm assuming you're using Snow Leopard.  If so, you can attach the script to 
> a keyboard commander key.  Then you can run it from anywhere.
> Hope this made sense.  If not, let me know and I'll be glad to help you out 
> further.
> Darcy
> 
> On 2011-02-03, at 8:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Greetings!
>> 
>> Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype.  
>> There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able 
>> to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing 
>> afterwards, my life would be a lot easier.
>> 
>> I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there 
>> was a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or 
>> something) to immediately start recording a conversation.
>> 
>> Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific 
>> instructions on how to set this feature up?  If not, could someone provide 
>> some assistance?  Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with 
>> this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real 
>> time, as it were.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: Somebody with a little vision

[lpna...@gmail.com]

Hi all.
Picture zoom
Ing is not the same as universa access zoom.  The picture zooming is done by 
stretching


Hth
Sent from my LG phone

"Earle M. Harrison"  wrote:

>Thank you for this Chantelle,
>
>I discovered with sighted assist that holding down control and swiping two 
>fingers away from you is a feature that is set within System Preferences under 
>Trackpad.  It wasn't working on my Macbook Pro even though the checkbox was 
>checked.  I unchecked it and then rechecked it and I guess it works now.  I'll 
>try the same with my client today and hope for the same result.  I'll also 
>have her try turning off Zoom and using the method you described as well.  
>Thank you so much for your response.
>
>Best,
>
>
>Earle
>
>On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Chantelle Griffiths wrote:
>
>> Hi Earl, 
>> 
>> I don't know whether zooming an image the way you described is still 
>> available as I'm only a relatively new mac user, but I have found a way to 
>> zoom the screen in a general context. That is, to magnify the entire screen. 
>> I'm not sure whether this applies if your client is using Zoom in 
>> conjunction with VO, but from my experience, the way to zoom in is to do the 
>> opposite of a pinch gesture. E.g. Put your thumb and pointer finger in the 
>> centre of the trackpad and simultaneously move your thumb towards the bottom 
>> of the trackpad  and your finger towards the top. From my experience, it 
>> doesn't work when Zoom is magnifying the screen, but should work if Zoom is 
>> not being used. 
>> 
>> Hope this helps - there could be a better way to do it. I'm using a Macbook 
>> Pro with a multitouch trackpad. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Chantelle 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 04/02/2011, at 11:01 AM, Earle M. Harrison wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm working with a client who has some vision and something has got us kind 
>>> of stumped.  She used to be able to hold down the control key and  swipe 
>>> two fingers away and toward her on the trackpad two zoom the image in and 
>>> out; however, this is no longer working.  I've researched the matter and 
>>> have found nothing on the subject. Any ideas how this feature could have 
>>> been turned off?  More important, any idea how to get it turned back on? 
>>> Any assistance you can offer as always is very much appreciated.  Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Earle Harrison
>>> Handy Tech North America
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Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Colin M]

Hi Scott!
I knew about the chess on the Mac!
It's the other games I was interested in!
Ok making them keyboard friendly might be hard but those using track pads 
either on there mbp's  or magic track pads could use the same gestures as the I 
pad!
Or have I got that wrong!
I know that some people would like it keyboard friendly as well and I really do 
not know how hard it is to reprogram software, but there is already somethings 
you can do only with a track pad and not on the keyboard!
And I do not know how many people would like mbp's  Imac versions but the track 
pad might be the way to go!
I did say if possible! :]
All the best!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:35, Scott Howell wrote:

> Colin,
> 
> I have no idea, but it is unlikely. Converting an iOS app to run on the Mac 
> platform is not impossible perhaps, but would not be trivial by any stretch 
> since your talking about a complete change to the interface as far as how you 
> would interact with it. In other words, going from a touch-screen to a 
> keyboard or other input method. There is an accessible chess app on the Mac 
> in the APplications folder. You can choose to have the application speak the 
> moves of the computer.
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott!
>> Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
>> Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all 
>> possible!
>> All the best!
>> Colin
>> Qapla!
>> 
>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
>> On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a 
>>> chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them 
>>> all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. The 
>>> right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will check this out, but 
>>> Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be working on these. You would 
>>> not know this necessarily, but Marcel took a game that was not completely  
>>> accessible and especially with regard to the game board and made it fully 
>>> accessible (game board primarily) within two weeks or so. So, there will be 
>>> issues yet and any feedback is appreciated and please share with Marcel, 
>>> via this list, or send directly to me, and I will see your issues are 
>>> presented. Marcel has done something that no one else has and I tried 
>>> working with another developer of a chess app that cost twice what 
>>> Chess-Wise Pro costs and he has yet to make his game accessible. Marcel's 
>>> enthusiasm and interest in making his games accessible speaks volumes about 
>>> him and his commitment  to a quality experience. Now so I don't sound like 
>>> a salesman, I did purchase these games, I got no free codes or any such 
>>> thing. However, purchasing any or all of his accessible games will support 
>>> his efforts and is appreciated. :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>> 
 I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
 definately say so in the app store.
 
 My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
 but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
 couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?
 
 Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!
 
 Jim
 
 On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
> Greetings All,
> 
> Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel 
> Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other 
> game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, 
> Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available 
> worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: English, 
> Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and 
> French translations in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott 
> Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in providing 
> input, feedback and other information to Marcel during this process.
> 
> Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
> correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version 
> of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro 
> version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the 
> Chess and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi 
> Apps. I believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support 
> one hundred percent.
> 
> I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard 
> and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can 
> navigate the board using a one-finger swipe, or y

Re: how to add people to a Skype conversation

[Justin Thornton]

if your VO curcor follows the mouse, then you do not have to press command f5 
but only if this is true
On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Critically important step missed.  After routing the mouse, VO+shift+space to 
> click.  This will cause the mouse to focus on the table thus Skype should be 
> able to see where you select from then on.
> 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> For those of us who have been wanting to know just how to add a person to a 
>> Skype conversation, I've worked it out.
>> 
>> 1.  Make the first call.
>> 
>> 2.  Once the person answers, focus on the conversation by either 
>> command+option+left or right.
>> 
>> 3.  Now, Vocus on the tool bar and from there, VO+right till you hear, "Add 
>> people".
>> 
>> 4.  Press this with VO+space.
>> 
>> 5.  Now, VO+right till you get to the table of contacts.  
>> 
>> 6.  Now, interact with this table.  Note that Voice OVer will not read you 
>> this table until you do so.
>> 
>> 7.  Now, Press VO+command+F5 to rout the mouse to this table.
>> 
>> 8.  VO+left or right until you reach the contact you wish to add.
>> 
>> 9.  Now, cease interacting with the table.
>> 
>> 10.  Now, VO+right until you see, "Add button".  Press it.
>> 
>>  Note that if the add button is grayed out, this is because Skype does 
>> not notice that you've made a selection from the contacts table.  I still 
>> have yet to work out how to remove a person, but, at this point, I imagine 
>> it's done by going to the source list and focusing on the contact from that 
>> point.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely, 
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
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Re: how to add people to a Skype conversation

[Justin Thornton]

also just to shorten things a bit
when in the edit box of the conversation that you want to add someone too
just press command shift and letter A, this will bring up the same dialog from 
the add people in the toolbar
thanks
On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> For those of us who have been wanting to know just how to add a person to a 
> Skype conversation, I've worked it out.
> 
> 1.  Make the first call.
> 
> 2.  Once the person answers, focus on the conversation by either 
> command+option+left or right.
> 
> 3.  Now, Vocus on the tool bar and from there, VO+right till you hear, "Add 
> people".
> 
> 4.  Press this with VO+space.
> 
> 5.  Now, VO+right till you get to the table of contacts.  
> 
> 6.  Now, interact with this table.  Note that Voice OVer will not read you 
> this table until you do so.
> 
> 7.  Now, Press VO+command+F5 to rout the mouse to this table.
> 
> 8.  VO+left or right until you reach the contact you wish to add.
> 
> 9.  Now, cease interacting with the table.
> 
> 10.  Now, VO+right until you see, "Add button".  Press it.
> 
>   Note that if the add button is grayed out, this is because Skype does 
> not notice that you've made a selection from the contacts table.  I still 
> have yet to work out how to remove a person, but, at this point, I imagine 
> it's done by going to the source list and focusing on the contact from that 
> point.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
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Re: Somebody with a little vision

[Earle M. Harrison]

Thank you for this Chantelle,

I discovered with sighted assist that holding down control and swiping two 
fingers away from you is a feature that is set within System Preferences under 
Trackpad.  It wasn't working on my Macbook Pro even though the checkbox was 
checked.  I unchecked it and then rechecked it and I guess it works now.  I'll 
try the same with my client today and hope for the same result.  I'll also have 
her try turning off Zoom and using the method you described as well.  Thank you 
so much for your response.

Best,


Earle

On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Chantelle Griffiths wrote:

> Hi Earl, 
> 
> I don't know whether zooming an image the way you described is still 
> available as I'm only a relatively new mac user, but I have found a way to 
> zoom the screen in a general context. That is, to magnify the entire screen. 
> I'm not sure whether this applies if your client is using Zoom in conjunction 
> with VO, but from my experience, the way to zoom in is to do the opposite of 
> a pinch gesture. E.g. Put your thumb and pointer finger in the centre of the 
> trackpad and simultaneously move your thumb towards the bottom of the 
> trackpad  and your finger towards the top. From my experience, it doesn't 
> work when Zoom is magnifying the screen, but should work if Zoom is not being 
> used. 
> 
> Hope this helps - there could be a better way to do it. I'm using a Macbook 
> Pro with a multitouch trackpad. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Chantelle 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/02/2011, at 11:01 AM, Earle M. Harrison wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm working with a client who has some vision and something has got us kind 
>> of stumped.  She used to be able to hold down the control key and  swipe two 
>> fingers away and toward her on the trackpad two zoom the image in and out; 
>> however, this is no longer working.  I've researched the matter and have 
>> found nothing on the subject. Any ideas how this feature could have been 
>> turned off?  More important, any idea how to get it turned back on? Any 
>> assistance you can offer as always is very much appreciated.  Thank you.
>> 
>> Earle Harrison
>> Handy Tech North America
>> 
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Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Scott Howell]

Colin,

I have no idea, but it is unlikely. Converting an iOS app to run on the Mac 
platform is not impossible perhaps, but would not be trivial by any stretch 
since your talking about a complete change to the interface as far as how you 
would interact with it. In other words, going from a touch-screen to a keyboard 
or other input method. There is an accessible chess app on the Mac in the 
APplications folder. You can choose to have the application speak the moves of 
the computer.
Scott





On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Scott!
> Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
> Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all 
> possible!
> All the best!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> 
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a 
>> chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them 
>> all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. The 
>> right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will check this out, but 
>> Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be working on these. You would 
>> not know this necessarily, but Marcel took a game that was not completely  
>> accessible and especially with regard to the game board and made it fully 
>> accessible (game board primarily) within two weeks or so. So, there will be 
>> issues yet and any feedback is appreciated and please share with Marcel, via 
>> this list, or send directly to me, and I will see your issues are presented. 
>> Marcel has done something that no one else has and I tried working with 
>> another developer of a chess app that cost twice what Chess-Wise Pro costs 
>> and he has yet to make his game accessible. Marcel's enthusiasm and interest 
>> in making his games accessible speaks volumes about him and his commitment  
>> to a quality experience. Now so I don't sound like a salesman, I did 
>> purchase these games, I got no free codes or any such thing. However, 
>> purchasing any or all of his accessible games will support his efforts and 
>> is appreciated. :)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
>>> definately say so in the app store.
>>> 
>>> My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
>>> but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
>>> couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?
>>> 
>>> Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
 Greetings All,
 
 Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel 
 Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other 
 game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, 
 Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide 
 in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, 
 Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French 
 translations in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell 
 and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in providing input, 
 feedback and other information to Marcel during this process.
 
 Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
 correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of 
 the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro 
 version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess 
 and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I 
 believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one 
 hundred percent.
 
 I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard 
 and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate 
 the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger 
 around the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a 
 piece if one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to 
 locate the piece you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce 
 "Selected." Now use one finger again to locate the destination square and 
 double-tap again. Please note that this is considered a first version of 
 this game in it's accessible form. While Marcel has made the heart of the 
 App accessible, it is a very feature-rich App which will require 
 additional coding to make it fully accessible. Marcel has asked that those 
 of us who use the Apps provide feedback to him so he can continue to 
 refine and update the accessibility features.
 
 Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes

Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Colin M]

Hi Scott!
Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all 
possible!
All the best!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a chance 
> to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them all. :) I 
> understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. The right or 
> wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will check this out, but Marcel is 
> aware of an issue or two and will be working on these. You would not know 
> this necessarily, but Marcel took a game that was not completely  accessible 
> and especially with regard to the game board and made it fully accessible 
> (game board primarily) within two weeks or so. So, there will be issues yet 
> and any feedback is appreciated and please share with Marcel, via this list, 
> or send directly to me, and I will see your issues are presented. Marcel has 
> done something that no one else has and I tried working with another 
> developer of a chess app that cost twice what Chess-Wise Pro costs and he has 
> yet to make his game accessible. Marcel's enthusiasm and interest in making 
> his games accessible speaks volumes about him and his commitment  to a 
> quality experience. Now so I don't sound like a salesman, I did purchase 
> these games, I got no free codes or any such thing. However, purchasing any 
> or all of his accessible games will support his efforts and is appreciated. :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
> 
>> I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
>> definately say so in the app store.
>> 
>> My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
>> but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
>> couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?
>> 
>> Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
>>> Greetings All,
>>> 
>>> Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel 
>>> Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other 
>>> game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, 
>>> Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide 
>>> in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, 
>>> German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations 
>>> in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller 
>>> in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other 
>>> information to Marcel during this process.
>>> 
>>> Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
>>> correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of 
>>> the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version 
>>> to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and 
>>> Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I 
>>> believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one 
>>> hundred percent.
>>> 
>>> I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and 
>>> Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the 
>>> board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the 
>>> board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one 
>>> occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece 
>>> you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one 
>>> finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please 
>>> note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's 
>>> accessible form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it 
>>> is a very feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it 
>>> fully accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps 
>>> provide feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the 
>>> accessibility features.
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store:
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store:
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store:
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bryan
>>> 
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Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

[Scott Howell]

Hi Jim,

ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a chance 
to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them all. :) I 
understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. The right or wrong 
is stated in the top message bar. I will check this out, but Marcel is aware of 
an issue or two and will be working on these. You would not know this 
necessarily, but Marcel took a game that was not completely  accessible and 
especially with regard to the game board and made it fully accessible (game 
board primarily) within two weeks or so. So, there will be issues yet and any 
feedback is appreciated and please share with Marcel, via this list, or send 
directly to me, and I will see your issues are presented. Marcel has done 
something that no one else has and I tried working with another developer of a 
chess app that cost twice what Chess-Wise Pro costs and he has yet to make his 
game accessible. Marcel's enthusiasm and interest in making his games 
accessible speaks volumes about him and his commitment  to a quality 
experience. Now so I don't sound like a salesman, I did purchase these games, I 
got no free codes or any such thing. However, purchasing any or all of his 
accessible games will support his efforts and is appreciated. :)

Thanks,
Scott





On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:

> I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
> definately say so in the app store.
> 
> My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
> but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
> couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?
> 
> Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>> 
>> Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's 
>> Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps 
>> to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and 
>> Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store 
>> and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. 
>> Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next 
>> update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in 
>> particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other 
>> information to Marcel during this process.
>> 
>> Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run 
>> correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of 
>> the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version 
>> to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and 
>> Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe 
>> Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent.
>> 
>> I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and 
>> Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the 
>> board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the 
>> board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one 
>> occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you 
>> want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one 
>> finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please 
>> note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible 
>> form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very 
>> feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully 
>> accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide 
>> feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility 
>> features.
>> 
>> Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store:
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122
>> 
>> Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store:
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8
>> 
>> Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store:
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
>> 
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