Re: Keynote Question

2011-03-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ezzy,

You can subscribe to the VoiceOver On podcast through iTunes. Just enter 
VoiceOver On in the search field and it should be the second result after 
VoiceOver Getting Started.

Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Mar 2011, at 05:49, Ezzy Bueno wrote:

 Thanks sooo much, Anne! :)
 Where can I locate the podcast you mentioned?
 
 Ezzie

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MobileMe Renewal Hell

2011-03-18 Thread Chris Moore
Hi gang,

Do any of you have mobileme accounts?  Have any of you had to renew your mobile 
me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires?

I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription 
is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and 
its contents will be deleted.  So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty 
much inaccessible mobileme website.  Anyway with a bit of playing around I 
managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as 
I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture.  Yes Apple 
has one!  And no, there was no audio alternative.  As there was no one sighted 
nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple.

I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system 
and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through 
to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real 
person.  The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto 
the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link.  
So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a 
chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth.  Eventually technical 
support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was 
unable to accept any payment details over the chat window.

So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a 
telephone either.  So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes 
that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind 
user is going to complete this process themselves.

Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will 
take my business elsewhere.

Chris 
*in a huff and not amused :( 

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Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell

2011-03-18 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi Chris:
Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!!  They should be advocating 
for just this kind of thing.

Carolyn H
On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

 Hi gang,
 
 Do any of you have mobileme accounts?  Have any of you had to renew your 
 mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card 
 expires?
 
 I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription 
 is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account 
 and its contents will be deleted.  So I thought ok let's wrestle with the 
 pretty much inaccessible mobileme website.  Anyway with a bit of playing 
 around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details 
 and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. 
  Yes Apple has one!  And no, there was no audio alternative.  As there was no 
 one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple.
 
 I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition 
 system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put 
 me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a 
 different real person.  The final real person could not really help me but 
 offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat 
 technical support link.  So I am passing details down the phone and this guy 
 is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and 
 forth.  Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window 
 came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat 
 window.
 
 So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a 
 telephone either.  So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes 
 that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a 
 blind user is going to complete this process themselves.
 
 Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will 
 take my business elsewhere.
 
 Chris 
 *in a huff and not amused :( 
 
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Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell

2011-03-18 Thread Chris Moore
Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of 
mobileme on Apple's website :) 
On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi Chris:
 Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!!  They should be 
 advocating for just this kind of thing.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Hi gang,
 
 Do any of you have mobileme accounts?  Have any of you had to renew your 
 mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current 
 card expires?
 
 I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my 
 subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or 
 my account and its contents will be deleted.  So I thought ok let's wrestle 
 with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website.  Anyway with a bit of 
 playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment 
 details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen 
 capture.  Yes Apple has one!  And no, there was no audio alternative.  As 
 there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call 
 Apple.
 
 I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition 
 system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put 
 me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a 
 different real person.  The final real person could not really help me but 
 offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat 
 technical support link.  So I am passing details down the phone and this guy 
 is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and 
 forth.  Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat 
 window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over 
 the chat window.
 
 So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have 
 a telephone either.  So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with 
 eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how 
 a blind user is going to complete this process themselves.
 
 Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I 
 will take my business elsewhere.
 
 Chris 
 *in a huff and not amused :( 
 
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Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell

2011-03-18 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you.  Seems to me that 
somebody's gone and dropped the  ball big time on this one.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1

On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

 Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of 
 mobileme on Apple's website :) 
 On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Chris:
 Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!!  They should be 
 advocating for just this kind of thing.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Hi gang,
 
 Do any of you have mobileme accounts?  Have any of you had to renew your 
 mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current 
 card expires?
 
 I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my 
 subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details 
 or my account and its contents will be deleted.  So I thought ok let's 
 wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website.  Anyway with a 
 bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my 
 payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with 
 a screen capture.  Yes Apple has one!  And no, there was no audio 
 alternative.  As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just 
 have to call Apple.
 
 I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition 
 system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put 
 me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a 
 different real person.  The final real person could not really help me but 
 offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat 
 technical support link.  So I am passing details down the phone and this 
 guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back 
 and forth.  Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat 
 window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over 
 the chat window.
 
 So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have 
 a telephone either.  So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with 
 eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how 
 a blind user is going to complete this process themselves.
 
 Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I 
 will take my business elsewhere.
 
 Chris 
 *in a huff and not amused :( 
 
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Possibly OT: imac restore disks?

2011-03-18 Thread Ashley Cox

Hey all,
I have an imac g3 (slot-loader, 600 MHZ...). I'm looking for the mac 
OS9.2.2 restore disks... probably a long-shot, but if anybody has them 
or a disk image they're willing to send, I'd be really grateful! I only 
need mac OS9 to upgrade the firmware so I can install tiger...
I have a mac os 9.0.4 disk but, as this is the summer 2001 iMac, it can 
only boot 9.2 earliest.


Thanks!
Ash

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Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell

2011-03-18 Thread ShamelessFanGirl
I too am curious as to your findings here, because I intended to subscribe with 
MobileMe within the next few weeks, and/or upon the supposed big announcement 
in April. Is this service more accessible on the Mac side than windows for 
example? Or is access a dead thing across the board? This is truly 
disheartening, so definitely keep us posted as to your discoveries.




Twitter: @IndigoCellist
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you.  Seems to me that 
 somebody's gone and dropped the  ball big time on this one.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of 
 mobileme on Apple's website :) 
 On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Chris:
 Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!!  They should be 
 advocating for just this kind of thing.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Hi gang,
 
 Do any of you have mobileme accounts?  Have any of you had to renew your 
 mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current 
 card expires?
 
 I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my 
 subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details 
 or my account and its contents will be deleted.  So I thought ok let's 
 wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website.  Anyway with a 
 bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my 
 payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit 
 with a screen capture.  Yes Apple has one!  And no, there was no audio 
 alternative.  As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will 
 just have to call Apple.
 
 I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition 
 system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to 
 put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a 
 different real person.  The final real person could not really help me but 
 offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat 
 technical support link.  So I am passing details down the phone and this 
 guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back 
 and forth.  Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat 
 window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over 
 the chat window.
 
 So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to 
 have a telephone either.  So apart from getting a real person in the flesh 
 with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't 
 see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves.
 
 Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I 
 will take my business elsewhere.
 
 Chris 
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Something that sounds like Eck when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read

2011-03-18 Thread Pete Nalda
Anyone else noticing this?  I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model 2.42ghz 
if that helps anyone.  Tia.

Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
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Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell

2011-03-18 Thread Chris Moore
When I set this thing up I had sight, and had no idea I would need to worry 
about accessibility.  Put it this way, I find the main facebook website more 
accessible!  But when you have it working with Apple Mail, iCal, Address Book 
etc across a number of Macs sharing the account and also my iPhone etc, it 
works very well.  I love push email and syncing etc and don't think there is 
much out there that can beat it.  But the mobileme website is awful but it is 
better on the Mac then Windows for accessibility.

If I was you, I would maybe consider google for now.
On 18 Mar 2011, at 17:56, ShamelessFanGirl wrote:

 I too am curious as to your findings here, because I intended to subscribe 
 with MobileMe within the next few weeks, and/or upon the supposed big 
 announcement in April. Is this service more accessible on the Mac side than 
 windows for example? Or is access a dead thing across the board? This is 
 truly disheartening, so definitely keep us posted as to your discoveries.
 
 
 
 
 Twitter: @IndigoCellist
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you.  Seems to me that 
 somebody's gone and dropped the  ball big time on this one.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of 
 mobileme on Apple's website :) 
 On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Chris:
 Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!!  They should be 
 advocating for just this kind of thing.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Hi gang,
 
 Do any of you have mobileme accounts?  Have any of you had to renew your 
 mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current 
 card expires?
 
 I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my 
 subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details 
 or my account and its contents will be deleted.  So I thought ok let's 
 wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website.  Anyway with 
 a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend 
 my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit 
 with a screen capture.  Yes Apple has one!  And no, there was no audio 
 alternative.  As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will 
 just have to call Apple.
 
 I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition 
 system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to 
 put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to 
 a different real person.  The final real person could not really help me 
 but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme 
 chat technical support link.  So I am passing details down the phone and 
 this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going 
 back and forth.  Eventually technical support guy on the other side of 
 the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment 
 details over the chat window.
 
 So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to 
 have a telephone either.  So apart from getting a real person in the 
 flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I 
 can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves.
 
 Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I 
 will take my business elsewhere.
 
 Chris 
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RE: organizing bookmarks

2011-03-18 Thread Matthew Janusauskas

Can anyone explain the difference between folders and collections for Safari 
bookmarks?

Matthew



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Andre Nuno Soares
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 17:44
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: organizing bookmarks

Hello Laura,

After you press Command Option B you'll be in a Search Text Field. VO left 
arrow once and you'll find a table. Interact with it (VO-Shift-down arrow)and 
you'll see categories for History (for the list of web pages you have visited 
so far) Bookmarks Bar, Bookmarks Menu, All RSS Feeds, and one entry for each 
bookmark import, if you did any.
Use the up and down arrow keys to move between the categories.

You probably have been adding bookmarks to the Bookmarks Menu, so select that 
and stop interacting with the table (VO-Shift-up arrow). VO-right arrow twice 
and you're at a different table. Interact with it and you'll see all your 
bookmarks.

To create a bookmark folder navigate to the bookmark immediately above where 
you want the folder to be and press Command-Shift-N. Type the name you want to 
give it (you won't hear it being echoed) and finish with Enter.

To change a bookmark location in the Menu, just cut it (Command-X) and paste it 
(Command-V), again on the bookmark immediately above where you want this one to 
be.

To change the name or URL of a bookmark, select it and press VO-Shift-M for the 
application menu, where you'll find this and other options.


Hope I managed  to be clear :-)

Cheers,
André

On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:

 Hi Andre,
 Once I have pressed command option B how  do I make the changes that
 you listed?
 Thanks,
 Laura
 
 Andre Nuno Soares wrote:
 Hello Laura,
 
 Command Option B displays all your bookmarks . In here you can change your 
 bookmarks display order, their name or URL, add bookmark folders,etc.
 Was this what you were looking for?
 
 
 
 HTH,
 André
 
 On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 Is there  a way to organize  my  bookmarks? on my PC I could organize the 
 bookmarks by alphabet. can that be done on the mac?
 Thanks for the help,
 Laura
 
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Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell

2011-03-18 Thread Esther
Hi,

I answered Chris's post on the mac-access list, but the quick summary is that 
if you buy the box sets for 1 year of MobileMe service, either in a store or 
on-line through Amazon, or another vendor, you can scan and OCR the 16 
character activation code that is stickered onto either the enclosed card or 
booklet. I have my MobileMe account set with the box checked not to 
automatically renew. Then, when it's close to the time for renewal, I just buy 
the box set (usually around $70 from Amazon, but prices have gone as low as 
$52), and go to the MobileMe activation page:
https://secure.me.com/wo/WebObjects/Signup.woa/wa/activation
Paste the activation code into the text box and change the selection from the 
first option of setting up a new account to the second option of Apply to an 
existing account. Renew your subscription or convert your trial or family 
member sub account to a full subscription by navigating to it and doing a 
VO-Space, then proceed to the continue button (labeled btn_continue.png), 
press it (VO-Space), and give the log in for your MobileMe account for the 
renewal to be applied to.  You'll be able to check the new expiration date for 
your account.

Although Apple has recently stopped selling the MobileMe box sets in their 
stores, you can still find these for sale on line and through other vendors.  
Also, it doesn't matter if the box is labeled old version at Amazon -- those 
codes will still work.  The only thing is that you can't apply this way in 
advance of your renewal (e.g. stockpile 3 years worth and apply them all in 
advance); this is only effective for the period just before your renewal is due 
(maybe a few weeks or a month?).

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 18, 2011, at 07:20, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you.  Seems to me that 
 somebody's gone and dropped the  ball big time on this one.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of 
 mobileme on Apple's website :) 
 On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Chris:
 Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!!  They should be 
 advocating for just this kind of thing.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Hi gang,
 
 Do any of you have mobileme accounts?  Have any of you had to renew your 
 mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current 
 card expires?
 
 I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my 
 subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details 
 or my account and its contents will be deleted.  So I thought ok let's 
 wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website.  Anyway with a 
 bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my 
 payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit 
 with a screen capture.  Yes Apple has one!  And no, there was no audio 
 alternative.  As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will 
 just have to call Apple.
 
 I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition 
 system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to 
 put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a 
 different real person.  The final real person could not really help me but 
 offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat 
 technical support link.  So I am passing details down the phone and this 
 guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back 
 and forth.  Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat 
 window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over 
 the chat window.
 
 So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to 
 have a telephone either.  So apart from getting a real person in the flesh 
 with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't 
 see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves.
 
 Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I 
 will take my business elsewhere.
 
 Chris 
 *in a huff and not amused :( 
 

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Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell

2011-03-18 Thread ShamelessFanGirl
Thanks Esther. As always, your advice, suggestions, and user-experience is 
invaluable. :) I'll soon be a new Mac user, so it's fabulous that you're still 
as freely-giving with your methodology as you are.

Thanks again, am off to have a look at Amazon upon sending.



Twitter: @IndigoCellist
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I answered Chris's post on the mac-access list, but the quick summary is that 
 if you buy the box sets for 1 year of MobileMe service, either in a store or 
 on-line through Amazon, or another vendor, you can scan and OCR the 16 
 character activation code that is stickered onto either the enclosed card or 
 booklet. I have my MobileMe account set with the box checked not to 
 automatically renew. Then, when it's close to the time for renewal, I just 
 buy the box set (usually around $70 from Amazon, but prices have gone as low 
 as $52), and go to the MobileMe activation page:
 https://secure.me.com/wo/WebObjects/Signup.woa/wa/activation
 Paste the activation code into the text box and change the selection from the 
 first option of setting up a new account to the second option of Apply to an 
 existing account. Renew your subscription or convert your trial or family 
 member sub account to a full subscription by navigating to it and doing a 
 VO-Space, then proceed to the continue button (labeled btn_continue.png), 
 press it (VO-Space), and give the log in for your MobileMe account for the 
 renewal to be applied to.  You'll be able to check the new expiration date 
 for your account.
 
 Although Apple has recently stopped selling the MobileMe box sets in their 
 stores, you can still find these for sale on line and through other vendors.  
 Also, it doesn't matter if the box is labeled old version at Amazon -- 
 those codes will still work.  The only thing is that you can't apply this way 
 in advance of your renewal (e.g. stockpile 3 years worth and apply them all 
 in advance); this is only effective for the period just before your renewal 
 is due (maybe a few weeks or a month?).
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 07:20, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you.  Seems to me that 
 somebody's gone and dropped the  ball big time on this one.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of 
 mobileme on Apple's website :) 
 On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Chris:
 Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!!  They should be 
 advocating for just this kind of thing.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Hi gang,
 
 Do any of you have mobileme accounts?  Have any of you had to renew your 
 mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current 
 card expires?
 
 I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my 
 subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details 
 or my account and its contents will be deleted.  So I thought ok let's 
 wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website.  Anyway with 
 a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend 
 my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit 
 with a screen capture.  Yes Apple has one!  And no, there was no audio 
 alternative.  As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will 
 just have to call Apple.
 
 I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition 
 system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to 
 put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to 
 a different real person.  The final real person could not really help me 
 but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme 
 chat technical support link.  So I am passing details down the phone and 
 this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going 
 back and forth.  Eventually technical support guy on the other side of 
 the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment 
 details over the chat window.
 
 So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to 
 have a telephone either.  So apart from getting a real person in the 
 flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I 
 can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves.
 
 Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I 
 will take my business elsewhere.
 
 Chris 
 *in a huff and not amused :( 
 
 
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Sharp Keys in Win 7

2011-03-18 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Guys,

just to let you know: I tried Sharp Keys 3 in Win7 32 bit in Fusion 3 and it 
works great. 

All the best
Jürgen

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Amadeus Pro and switching between tracks

2011-03-18 Thread Thomas Byskov Dalgaard
Hello!

I have recently tried to find a workaround for the following:
I have two tracks in a project and I want to edit one of them. The only way to 
do this from the keyboard is to press the letter n as in next to switch to the 
next track.
I read on the maccessibility-website that there should be a way to select a 
specific track with voiceover. But I can't get this method to work. Have any of 
you any suggestions of an alternativ way to get  around selecting tracks?
Best regards
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Re: Hot Spots podcast is available

2011-03-18 Thread Jes Smith
Yes, you can use it in any program, pages, mail, safari, just use your 
imagination.
Jes

On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

 I really found this podcast helpful as well, just listened to it today.  Can 
 you use it in any program, like pages, for example?
 
 Thanks,
 Caitlyn
 
 On 2011-03-15, at 8:12 PM, Sharon Ballantyne wrote:
 
 Dear Jes and others,
 
 As a new Mac user, I really found this podcast useful and what a time saver 
 it will be in eliminating a bunch of key strokes.  I have most of my mail 
 from other accounts set to forward to my inbox of one account.
 
 How would I set up for  example my g-mail account to have its own mailbox as 
 you modelled with your road runner and g-mail?
 
 Many thanks.
 
 You can e-mail off list at
 
 sbal...@nexicom.net
 
 Thank-you,
 
 Sharon
 On 2011-03-15, at 3:00 PM, Jes Smith wrote:
 
 Hello list,
 The VoiceOVer Hot Spots podcast is now available for streaming and 
 download. Have fun.
 To download, visit:
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4707788/VO-Hotspots.mp3
 
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Re: Something that sounds like Eck when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read

2011-03-18 Thread Greg Aikens
VO says the word text when I use VO+J to move from the message table to a 
message.  Is this what you are referring to?


On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

 Anyone else noticing this?  I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model 
 2.42ghz if that helps anyone.  Tia.
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
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 http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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Re: organizing bookmarks

2011-03-18 Thread Esther
Hi Matthew,

Collections refer to special categories of items under the Bookmarks menu, such 
as History, the Bookmarks Bar (i.e. the most frequently used bookmark 
entries that appear on the browser page when the Bookmarks Bar is not hidden), 
the Bookmarks Menu (usually, the list of bookmarks not on your Bookmarks 
Bar), the Address Book (for URLs of contacts in your Address Book), RSS 
Feeds, if you choose to subscribe to them and have them displayed in Safari.  
So the table of Collections in the Show All Bookmarks page of Safari 
displays these items as well as folders of bookmarks.  When you use the Create 
new Collection button you create a folder under the table listing both the 
categories I listed, and folders of Bookmarks.  If you select a category under 
the table of bookmark collections (whether History or a particular bookmarks 
folder), then stop interacting with the table and navigate to the table of 
items under that selected collection (e.g. with Command-Shift-T to move to the 
next table) you can see both individual bookmarks and (sub)folders of 
bookmarks.  The Create new Collection button creates a new folder of 
bookmarks under the Table of Collections.  The Create new Folder button 
creates a new folder within the collections you have selected in the Table of 
Collections -- this could be a sub-folder of a bookmarks folder, or a folder on 
your Bookmarks Bar, for example.

Also, to answer Laura's original question about reordering bookmarks, I find 
this easiest to do using Safari on the iPad (or iPhone), where after 
double-tapping the Bookmarks button, I can double tap the Edit button. 
either on the top level, where the items are folders, or after selecting a 
collection like the Bookmarks Bar or Bookmarks Menu.  For folders or 
bookmarks in my synced bookmarks this brings us a delete button beside the 
listed entry on the left side of the screen and a Reorder name of folder or 
bookmark. draggable button on the right side of the screen for the listed 
folder.  Doing a double tap and hold pass through gesture on this button lets 
me rearrange the order by drag and drop, and produces the burbling noise that 
the gesture was recognized.  As I move my finger up or down the right side of 
the iPhone screen, I'll hear a clink and an announcement like moved above 
(or moved below), (and then the name of the bookmark or folder that I just 
move past in the up or down direction).  To check the ordering of the items, 
just move your finger down the center of the iPhone screen, and scroll (three 
finger flick up) when you reach the bottom to keep going.  Or, you could just 
flick right or do a read all from the current point (two finger flick down), 
but you'll also hear the delete buttons at the left and the move buttons at the 
right also listed, in addition to the name of the bookmark.

When things are ordered to your satisfaction, double tap the Done button.  I 
think these will sync back to your Safari bookmarks on the Mac -- at least, 
this does through MobileMe, and I believe this also works when you sync through 
connecting your iPhone  to iTunes if you have the box for syncing bookmarks 
checked.  (Someone please check me on this.)

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 18, 2011, at 08:16, Matthew Janusauskas wrote:

 
 Can anyone explain the difference between folders and collections for Safari 
 bookmarks?
 
 Matthew
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andre Nuno Soares
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 17:44
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: organizing bookmarks
 
 Hello Laura,
 
 After you press Command Option B you'll be in a Search Text Field. VO left 
 arrow once and you'll find a table. Interact with it (VO-Shift-down arrow)and 
 you'll see categories for History (for the list of web pages you have visited 
 so far) Bookmarks Bar, Bookmarks Menu, All RSS Feeds, and one entry for each 
 bookmark import, if you did any.
 Use the up and down arrow keys to move between the categories.
 
 You probably have been adding bookmarks to the Bookmarks Menu, so select that 
 and stop interacting with the table (VO-Shift-up arrow). VO-right arrow twice 
 and you're at a different table. Interact with it and you'll see all your 
 bookmarks.
 
 To create a bookmark folder navigate to the bookmark immediately above where 
 you want the folder to be and press Command-Shift-N. Type the name you want 
 to give it (you won't hear it being echoed) and finish with Enter.
 
 To change a bookmark location in the Menu, just cut it (Command-X) and paste 
 it (Command-V), again on the bookmark immediately above where you want this 
 one to be.
 
 To change the name or URL of a bookmark, select it and press VO-Shift-M for 
 the application menu, where you'll find this and other options.
 
 
 Hope I managed  to be clear :-)
 
 Cheers,
 André
 
 On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
 
 Hi 

Re: hot spot expiry?

2011-03-18 Thread Geoff Waaler
Hi Yuma,

Perhaps you can clarify your requirement?  The way I've used hotspots, closing 
the associated app renders them inapplicable.  When I reopen the app my hotspot 
again becomes active.

Only way I know to save them is via the export preferences menu item in the 
voiceOver utility.  Perhaps you could get beyond the limit of ten by saving 
several hotspot files and automating which file becomes loaded via scripting?

Perhaps others will chime in with a better idea.

Best regards.
Geoff


On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

 
 Hi list,
 
 This might be something that's already been answered, but here it goes:
 
 Can the hotspots continue to be active when a program closes, and is there a 
 way to save them somewhere? Maybe using keyboard maestro or quickeyes?
 
 There are a bunch of hotspots i'd need to have beyond the available digits on 
 the keyboard, and i'd like to save them for later use instead of resetting 
 them at each session.
 
 Any help greatly appreciated 
 
 Yuma 
 
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Re: hot spot expiry?

2011-03-18 Thread Jes Smith
The hot spots are automatically saved, until you either replace them or get rid 
of them. Unfortunately, you can only have up to 10 hot spots, from numbers 1 
through 0. That's Apple's design. The hot spots are only active if the program 
associated with them is open because it's a quick way of returning to an area 
of the program, or a quick way of monitoring something within a program, such 
as a progress indicator. Remember, you can press vo-hot spot number twice to 
bring up your hot spot chooser menu to see which ones you haven't used in a 
while.

Jes

On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

 
 Hi list,
 
 This might be something that's already been answered, but here it goes:
 
 Can the hotspots continue to be active when a program closes, and is there a 
 way to save them somewhere? Maybe using keyboard maestro or quickeyes?
 
 There are a bunch of hotspots i'd need to have beyond the available digits on 
 the keyboard, and i'd like to save them for later use instead of resetting 
 them at each session.
 
 Any help greatly appreciated 
 
 Yuma 
 
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Re: hot spot expiry?

2011-03-18 Thread Yuma Decaux
Thanks for those clarifications.

I always thought hotspots just didn't work anymore once a program was closed 
for some reason.

This actually makes more sense anyway, but i always used hotspots for document 
referrals only, but this sort of changes a bit more of my workflow :)

Thanks again 

Yuma 

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Re: Something that sounds like Eck when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read

2011-03-18 Thread Esther
Hi, 

Good catch, Greg.  Pete can probably check this if he slows down his speech.  
VO+J only works if you still have the Mail Preview Pane showing (which is the 
default set up for Mail).

Cheers,

Esther
 
On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:32, Greg Aikens wrote:

 VO says the word text when I use VO+J to move from the message table to a 
 message.  Is this what you are referring to?
 
 
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
 
 Anyone else noticing this?  I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model 
 2.42ghz if that helps anyone.  Tia.
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
 Pete Nalda
 http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
 http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
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Re: hot spot expiry?

2011-03-18 Thread Esther
Hi,

Hotspots are persistent through reboots.  I'm not sure whether this was true in 
the earliest versions of the OS when they were first introduced in Leopard, 
though.  They do have to be someplace that VoiceOver can see, though -- else 
we could set hot spots for the problematic app icons that don't show up for 
VoiceOver navigation in the status menu bar.

Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:40, Yuma Decaux wrote:

 Thanks for those clarifications.
 
 I always thought hotspots just didn't work anymore once a program was closed 
 for some reason.
 
 This actually makes more sense anyway, but i always used hotspots for 
 document referrals only, but this sort of changes a bit more of my workflow :)
 
 Thanks again 
 
 Yuma 
 

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hot spots

2011-03-18 Thread louie
Howdy all,
You can find your hot spots file in:
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.VoiceOver3 custom.hotspots.plist XML Property 
List

louie
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Re: hot spot expiry?

2011-03-18 Thread Colin M
Hi all!
Whilst playing around with hotspots I also found that you can find out what is 
in a particular hotspot!
If you do not want to look at all your current hotspots but want to look at 8 
only you press vo+command+8 and it will tell you what you have there!
Oh yeah Jes great podcast!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 18 Mar 2011, at 21:45, Esther wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Hotspots are persistent through reboots.  I'm not sure whether this was true 
 in the earliest versions of the OS when they were first introduced in 
 Leopard, though.  They do have to be someplace that VoiceOver can see, 
 though -- else we could set hot spots for the problematic app icons that 
 don't show up for VoiceOver navigation in the status menu bar.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:40, Yuma Decaux wrote:
 
 Thanks for those clarifications.
 
 I always thought hotspots just didn't work anymore once a program was closed 
 for some reason.
 
 This actually makes more sense anyway, but i always used hotspots for 
 document referrals only, but this sort of changes a bit more of my workflow 
 :)
 
 Thanks again 
 
 Yuma 
 
 
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Moving items in a playlist with VoiceOver

2011-03-18 Thread Chris Norman
Hi all,
I think I may have asked this before, but I couldn't find anything in the list 
archives. Sorry if it's just me being thick, it is a little later here! :-D

I'm trying to move an item within an iTunes playlist, from the bottom to the 
top. I've tried drag and drop, move item, and resize item, but to no avail.

I've googled, and answers.com just says to drag with the mouse. Anyone got any 
ideas?

The other thing I tried with no success, is finding the file that defines the 
playlist in the iTunes folder structure, but I couldn't even find that. Anyone 
got any ideas?

Cheers,

Take care,

Chris Norman
Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com
Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com]

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Re: Keynote Question

2011-03-18 Thread Ezzy Bueno
Thanks a bunch, Anne!

Ezzie


On 3/18/11, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 Hello Ezzy,

 You can subscribe to the VoiceOver On podcast through iTunes. Just enter
 VoiceOver On in the search field and it should be the second result after
 VoiceOver Getting Started.

 Cheers,

 Anne


 On 18 Mar 2011, at 05:49, Ezzy Bueno wrote:

 Thanks sooo much, Anne! :)
 Where can I locate the podcast you mentioned?

 Ezzie

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Adobe at CSUN -- Did anybody talk to them?

2011-03-18 Thread Bryan Jones
I'm wondering if anybody here who attended CSUN heard any promising news from 
Adobe regarding the accessibility of Flash on the Mac. It's now been one year 
since Adobe announced they were, ...planning major upgrades to the 
accessibility support in Adobe Flash Player and my testing of the latest Flash 
player, 10.3 beta, shows no accessibility improvements unless you count the 
addition of a control in System Preferences as an improvement

Here's the link to their CSUN schedule:
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2011/03/adobe-at-csun-2011-conference.html

Here's the link to their March 24, 2010 announcement about bringing 
accessibility to Flash:
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html

TIA,
Bryan

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hotspots again, might be doing something wrong

2011-03-18 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi list,

So i've reopened a pdf which normally has 2 hotspots on different pages 
assigned, but pressing vo 1 or 2 which are the hotspots doesn't do anything. I 
instead get the negative chime. Double pressing on my hotspot list shows that 
all are inactive, and i can't get them activated.

Is there a specific key to press to reactivate the hotspots?


Best 

Yuma 

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Finally got Boot Camp going, but now more trouble

2011-03-18 Thread Brent Harding
Hi there. After taking my 13-inch Macbook to a little shop a friend of dad 
knew of, they finally got Boot Camp and XP going on this somewhat older 
white Macbook. One of the major problems, well, the only thing I've noticed 
so far is that no matter how I reconfigure my router, the wifi either times 
out connecting or says that I might be out of range. If I'm across the room 
from the thing, it better not be out of range because if I hit connect on 
other ones I have no clue who owns them, those will ask me for the password. 
The strange thing is that my own wifi works fine booting up from Snow 
Leopard, but not XP. I tried lowering security all the way down to WEP as 
believe it or not, all the other routers according to the network table in 
the airport thingy say WEP in them, how aweful from a security 
standpoint but I don't know who owns any of them to get into temporarily to 
download some updates and see if that solves this. At the place I live at, 
doubt anyone would know their SSID because they're all non-descript, some 
2-wire and numbers, one real long and random one and a cellular-connected 
one through a local provider, so wouldn't know who to ask permission from if 
they knew the default keys. With mine, there's 5 in total I can see from 
here, but the one that refuses to ask for a key has to be mine. I have 
Charter for Internet, and my modem is a SMCD3GN Docsis 3 Wireless gateway, 
all the latest and greatest from what I can tell, even with gigabit 
hardwired ports. How do I force this thing to take on the XP install on my 
Macbook? I really have to wonder if these modems do Mac address registration 
and OS analysis. It lets MacOSX on without a hitch, but when I reboot to XP 
it says I'm out of range almost immediately or it sits there as long as you 
can wait like a firewall would respond if it's decided the answer is no. Is 
there a way I can reset what my gateway thinks about the Mac address for the 
laptop so that it will allow the XP side on? I wonder then if it will forbid 
OSX? I don't even know if that shop downloaded that 300 mb update there is 
to the Boot Camp drivers, at least there was when I installed those into a 
demo of fusion. Is there a way to download them with a PC and install via 
USB stick since I can't find an open network? If not, what kind of 2Wire 
Docsis 3 modem can I buy myself to replace this thing, figuring if I have my 
own, this silly detection won't be there? I suppose if I convinced Charter 
to send another one, I have to be careful to connect wirelessly with the 
windows side first and see if it then locks Mac out, but I'd rather not go 
through that mess.

Thanks.

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Re: Finally got Boot Camp going, but now more trouble

2011-03-18 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Perhaps I'm missing something, but surely you can just ethernet it up
to see if you need to download any updates?

On 19/03/2011, Brent Harding bhard...@doorpi.net wrote:
 Hi there. After taking my 13-inch Macbook to a little shop a friend of dad
 knew of, they finally got Boot Camp and XP going on this somewhat older
 white Macbook. One of the major problems, well, the only thing I've noticed
 so far is that no matter how I reconfigure my router, the wifi either times
 out connecting or says that I might be out of range. If I'm across the room
 from the thing, it better not be out of range because if I hit connect on
 other ones I have no clue who owns them, those will ask me for the password.
 The strange thing is that my own wifi works fine booting up from Snow
 Leopard, but not XP. I tried lowering security all the way down to WEP as
 believe it or not, all the other routers according to the network table in
 the airport thingy say WEP in them, how aweful from a security
 standpoint but I don't know who owns any of them to get into temporarily to
 download some updates and see if that solves this. At the place I live at,
 doubt anyone would know their SSID because they're all non-descript, some
 2-wire and numbers, one real long and random one and a cellular-connected
 one through a local provider, so wouldn't know who to ask permission from if
 they knew the default keys. With mine, there's 5 in total I can see from
 here, but the one that refuses to ask for a key has to be mine. I have
 Charter for Internet, and my modem is a SMCD3GN Docsis 3 Wireless gateway,
 all the latest and greatest from what I can tell, even with gigabit
 hardwired ports. How do I force this thing to take on the XP install on my
 Macbook? I really have to wonder if these modems do Mac address registration
 and OS analysis. It lets MacOSX on without a hitch, but when I reboot to XP
 it says I'm out of range almost immediately or it sits there as long as you
 can wait like a firewall would respond if it's decided the answer is no. Is
 there a way I can reset what my gateway thinks about the Mac address for the
 laptop so that it will allow the XP side on? I wonder then if it will forbid
 OSX? I don't even know if that shop downloaded that 300 mb update there is
 to the Boot Camp drivers, at least there was when I installed those into a
 demo of fusion. Is there a way to download them with a PC and install via
 USB stick since I can't find an open network? If not, what kind of 2Wire
 Docsis 3 modem can I buy myself to replace this thing, figuring if I have my
 own, this silly detection won't be there? I suppose if I convinced Charter
 to send another one, I have to be careful to connect wirelessly with the
 windows side first and see if it then locks Mac out, but I'd rather not go
 through that mess.
 Thanks.

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Re: Adobe at CSUN -- Did anybody talk to them?

2011-03-18 Thread Chris Blouch
I went to the HTML5 v. Flash presentation today. IMHO there was tap 
dancing going on in the presentation. In the list of Cons about Flash 
they listed Mac accessibility but the speaker said they were activly 
working on it and were adding support for open standards-based 
accessibility APIs like IAccessible. Sooo, how will that help with 
voiceover? They seem to have some nice object to accessibility API 
mappings going on for Windows but are tenacious about not implementing 
for Apple's APIs. I'm sure the general friction with Apple over flash on 
iPhone isn't helping things either.


BTW, WebAIM screen reader survey found VO usage on non-iOS devices over 
the last three surveys has gone from 6% in January 09 to 20% in December 
2010 in the commonly used category. Still only 10% in the primary 
category (up 1%) as compared to Jaws at 59% (down 6%).


For those of you wondering, yes I'm still lurking. Just not as much time 
to respond these days.


CB

On 3/18/11 6:18 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

I'm wondering if anybody here who attended CSUN heard any promising news from Adobe 
regarding the accessibility of Flash on the Mac. It's now been one year since Adobe 
announced they were, ...planning major upgrades to the accessibility support in 
Adobe Flash Player and my testing of the latest Flash player, 10.3 beta, shows no 
accessibility improvements unless you count the addition of a control in System 
Preferences as an improvement

Here's the link to their CSUN schedule:
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2011/03/adobe-at-csun-2011-conference.html

Here's the link to their March 24, 2010 announcement about bringing 
accessibility to Flash:
http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html

TIA,
Bryan



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