RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Missy Hoppe
Um.. I don't know how that song got attached to my previous post. Am very, very 
confused. If it went through, and you like
it, I guess that's OK, but I didn't attach anything deliberately. I wonder if 
my computer is possessed! I'm tripple checking
this message, and there definitely are not any attachments at the time I'm 
hitting send. If another one goes through, then I
guess I've got problems I need to investigate once I've had sleep. Anyway, 
sorry for any confusion; I'm definitely not trying
to cause any problems, and even without the song, I stand by my comments about 
lion.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.

I agree. I think the com.apple.doc.extra thing may have been resolved, but VO 
running at start-up seems to be hit or miss
now, and I certainly can't find any other improvements that make me want to 
officially switch to Lion. I also noticed that
Pianopub still isn't read accurately under lion while it reads great in snow 
leopard. In fact, the only thing I like better
in lion than snow leopard is the way skype contacts are read. I have no clue 
what the difference is; so far as I can tell,
I'm running the same version of skype under both operating systems, but it just 
reads slightly better under lion; none of
those favorites checkboxes and stuff. Apart from that, though, I still have 
absolutely no desire to run lion, and will
continue using Snow Leopard as long as it works and meets my needs.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

Yeah, it still seems like they're sidestepping a lot of the issues that VO has, 
such as the freaky pitch changes with the
Nuance voices and the annoying Safari busy messages are still there too when 
doing easy tasks like reading forum posts in
Samnet and such. Speaking of Samnet, I know this is OT but, has anybody with 
Samnet accounts tried using the socializer with
Chrome? I'm thinking of giving Chrome another chance and I'm not too happy that 
I can't change my screen name with Safari.
And I say another chance because last time I used Chrome it was completely 
inaccessible. Since this is off topic, just write
me off list about it please and thanks.

Shawn

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Re: More issues with option click.

2011-10-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello,

You need to turn voiceover off before performing option click.  When you turn 
VO back on the file browser will be in VO focus.

hth

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On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I think they broke option click in iTunes 10.4, or at least starting with 
 that version. I’ve had bad luck with that as well, but unfortunately don’t 
 have a solution.
  
  
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:41 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: More issues with option click.
  
 Hi everyone.
 I'm attempting to update to iOS5 by means of an IPSW file. Since my Mac is 
 the main computer with which I sync now, I loaded the file onto my harddrive, 
  plugged in my phone, and navigated to it in the sources table in iTunes. I 
 am trying to restore the phone to factory defaults, so once I located the 
 restore button, I pressed vo-command F5 in order to make sure that the mouse 
 pointer was where it should be. VO repeated, Restore button. I then held 
 down the option key, and tapped the lower left hand corner of my magic track 
 pad. My Mac mini emitted a small ding, and nothing else happened. I tried 
 double tapping with the option key held down, and received the same ding in 
 response. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, as this is the first time I have 
 ever tried to perform an option click. It should be noted that I am running 
 Lion 10.72, and iTunes 10.5 which was just released. Any assistance which 
 anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 Allison
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Re: writing to NTFS drives under Lion?

2011-10-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Lol,

Thats what I'd like to know.  This definitely didn't work for me in snow 
leopard, leopard, and now Lion.

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Gavin wrote:

 I thought writing to NTFS partitions was impossible under any Mac OS version. 
 How did you manage it in Snow Leopard?
 
 Regards,
 
 Gavin
 
 On 13 Oct 2011, at 6:19 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
 
 Hi list:
 
 I just tonight took the plunge and upgraded to lion. Under SL, I was able to 
 write to my eternal HD that was using NTFS.  Now after the update, my 
 computer refuses to even recognize my external drive, and gives me an error 
 message.
 
 Thoughts? Can I still write to my external in Lion?
 
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Re: writing to NTFS drives under Lion?

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi John,
The program to access ntfs with read write access from a mac, is called ntfs3g. 
You will need the supplementary program called mac fuse for it to operate. 
Ntfs3g runs under sl, but not under lion. There is also a commercial version 
however, and that one works in lion too. 
Hth,
Paul.
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 Hi list:
 
 I just tonight took the plunge and upgraded to lion. Under SL, I was able to 
 write to my eternal HD that was using NTFS.  Now after the update, my 
 computer refuses to even recognize my external drive, and gives me an error 
 message.
 
 Thoughts? Can I still write to my external in Lion?
 
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I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All.

I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud.  I cloud website is not 
accessible. Anyone else having this problem?

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup,

the iCloud site is an accessibility nightmare.  But my contacts are there.

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 Hi All.
 
 I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud.  I cloud website is not 
 accessible. Anyone else having this problem?
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
So how to move everything to that website?

Sent from my iPhone

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 Yup,
 
 the iCloud site is an accessibility nightmare.  But my contacts are there.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud.  I cloud website is not 
 accessible. Anyone else having this problem?
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
OK, when I sign in with my me.com ID, it asks me to move my data. I press the 
move button. I get taken to the website. put in my username and password, check 
the box and sign in. I get taken to the I Cloud Website. There is one button, a 
pop up button with no label and then Image image image image. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 13 Oct 2011, at 09:30 AM, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I can look at my contacts just fine, so what's the problem exactly?
 
 I'm a bit confused. That wasn't a very elaborate email, except to say that 
 the iCLoud site appeared inaccessible.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Yup,
 
 the iCloud site is an accessibility nightmare.  But my contacts are there.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud.  I cloud website is not 
 accessible. Anyone else having this problem?
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Anyone else having issues upgrading to IOS5 on their IPhones?

2011-10-13 Thread Scott Howell
All,

I upgraded two iPads and two iPhones so far. I think a lot of the problems 
people are having is the incredible number of downloads and despite Apple's 
best efforts, demand can just overwhelm the hardiest of servers/server farms.
I had a number of problems and including one instance when my iPhone 4 went 
into recovery mode. I was finally able to do a restore and it upgraded to iOS 
5. All is working perfectly. So, relax and all will work itself out.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

 I haven't heard any good news about this update being successful. Slightly 
 worried about updating now.
 
 Matt
 Sent from my macbook pro
 
 On 2011-10-12, at 4:16 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
 
 I haven't been successful yet. It tries to back it up and then fails with a 
 cannot restore message. I didn't see any specific message. It all looked 
 pretty generic to me.
 
 Kev
 
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Re: -- SPAM --Re: Anyone else having issues upgrading to IOS5 on their IPhones?

2011-10-13 Thread Scott Howell
I lost absolutely nothing despite how dicy things got.
On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Aser Tolentino wrote:

 iPad 2 updated, but lost all media along the way. Are all the English voices 
 other than defaults compact only?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Brett C. blindinnova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My iPad 2 is successfully updated, so there's hope. 
 
 Brett C.
 
 On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:27 PM, David McLean wrote:
 
 My iPad is now in recovery mode!  I tried to restore it and it says the 
 server cannot be contacted at this time, try later.  I think it's a bust 
 for now.
 On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
 
 I haven't heard any good news about this update being successful. Slightly 
 worried about updating now.
 
 Matt
 Sent from my macbook pro
 
 On 2011-10-12, at 4:16 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
 
 I haven't been successful yet. It tries to back it up and then fails with 
 a cannot restore message. I didn't see any specific message. It all 
 looked pretty generic to me.
 
 Kev
 
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ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Erkens
Dear listers,
For anyone interested, I was pleasantly surprised by the arrival of the latest 
podcast called VoiceOverOn. A few very well informed people, will talk you 
through what is new in iOS 5, they inform you about iCloud which is also mac 
related, and because one of the guys is a beta tester, you get sort of an 
inside report on how Apple handles feedback in the mobile area. If you're 
interested in ios 5, you plan on updating and want to know what's coming etc, I 
would recommend giving it a listen. The podcast is well done, clean, and in 
easy tempo. Very nice to hear, even if your native language is not English. If 
you want to subscribe to the podcast feed, and you want to hear previous 
episodes as well, you can subscribe in itunes by putting the source table on 
podcasts, which is the fifth row, move to the right to the search field, type 
in VoiceOverOn which is all one word, hit enter, and then in the right pane, 
verrify that itunes found the podcast, hit subscribe, let it download the 
latest episode and you can start listening.
Paul.

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Re: Anyone else having issues upgrading to IOS5 on their IPhones?

2011-10-13 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Scott,

Well, I took in the baseball playoffs, took a nap and then started the upgrade 
at around 10:30 last night.  All went well, no errors, and apps were restored.  
The only thing I found rather odd was that a number of my apps had to be 
updated from the App Store.  Some of them went back to April, May and June of 
this year.  They were all current before.  Not a big deal, it just took some 
time to re-update some of my apps.  Going to try my BrailleConnect to see how 
well that remains paired.

Les
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 All,
 
 I upgraded two iPads and two iPhones so far. I think a lot of the problems 
 people are having is the incredible number of downloads and despite Apple's 
 best efforts, demand can just overwhelm the hardiest of servers/server farms.
 I had a number of problems and including one instance when my iPhone 4 went 
 into recovery mode. I was finally able to do a restore and it upgraded to iOS 
 5. All is working perfectly. So, relax and all will work itself out.
 
 On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
 
 I haven't heard any good news about this update being successful. Slightly 
 worried about updating now.
 
 Matt
 Sent from my macbook pro
 
 On 2011-10-12, at 4:16 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
 
 I haven't been successful yet. It tries to back it up and then fails with a 
 cannot restore message. I didn't see any specific message. It all looked 
 pretty generic to me.
 
 Kev
 
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trouble with me.com iMap settings

2011-10-13 Thread KliphSharrie
Okay, I've tried everything.  Deleting all my accounts from apple mail.  
Googled iMap settings for mobile me, 
and still can't receive from my me.com address.  It will let me send using my 
gmail server, but no sending.  I've even set my account up in iCloud.  Does 
anyone have any other suggestions?  Is there a way I can delete my mail profile 
and start from scratch so apple mail will find the settings on it's own?  At 
the end of my rope here. Kliphton SR
(twitterSkype) kliphton72
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Re: ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn

2011-10-13 Thread Chris Moore
I totally love listening to Ivan and Kevin.  They just provide the plain truth 
good or bad.

No nonsense, just how I like it being british.

Ivan, if you are reading, really happy you have managed to regain some useful 
vision.  Hope this does not mean you will no longer be helping us improve VO on 
the various Apple devices including Mac.  Also curious to know what your eye 
condition is and how your sight was restored.

Cheers 

Chris 
On 13 Oct 2011, at 10:15, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Dear listers,
 For anyone interested, I was pleasantly surprised by the arrival of the 
 latest podcast called VoiceOverOn. A few very well informed people, will talk 
 you through what is new in iOS 5, they inform you about iCloud which is also 
 mac related, and because one of the guys is a beta tester, you get sort of an 
 inside report on how Apple handles feedback in the mobile area. If you're 
 interested in ios 5, you plan on updating and want to know what's coming etc, 
 I would recommend giving it a listen. The podcast is well done, clean, and in 
 easy tempo. Very nice to hear, even if your native language is not English. 
 If you want to subscribe to the podcast feed, and you want to hear previous 
 episodes as well, you can subscribe in itunes by putting the source table on 
 podcasts, which is the fifth row, move to the right to the search field, type 
 in VoiceOverOn which is all one word, hit enter, and then in the right pane, 
 verrify that itunes found the podcast, hit subscribe, let it download the 
 latest episode and you can start listening.
 Paul.
 
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Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

2011-10-13 Thread Gavin
Hi guys,

When downgrading to Snow Leopard, would I be able to take the iLife apps that 
came preinstalled with Lion and copy them to Snow Leopard like I can with any 
other application? I don't see the point of having to buy iLife all over again 
just because I'm reformatting my hard disk.

Regards,

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Re: Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

2011-10-13 Thread Gavin
I don't think so. There aren't any disks in the box, just a bunch of manuals.
On 13 Oct 2011, at 3:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Didn't an iLife DVD come with your Mac?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Gavin wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 When downgrading to Snow Leopard, would I be able to take the iLife apps 
 that came preinstalled with Lion and copy them to Snow Leopard like I can 
 with any other application? I don't see the point of having to buy iLife all 
 over again just because I'm reformatting my hard disk.
 
 Regards,
 
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New safari 5.1.1 is being offurd!

2011-10-13 Thread Red.Falcon
If anyone does not know and some areas have not got it yet!
Colin

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Re: Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

2011-10-13 Thread Gavin
Hi Ricardo,

I've just double-checked my Mac's box. There appears to be a disk-sized sleeve 
included, but it has no disk in it. Whether this is because I have a 2011 
MacBook Pro, or because the DVD's aren't included with Macs in South Africa, or 
even because of an error on the part of the company I ordered this machine 
from, I do not know.

Regards,

Gavin
On 13 Oct 2011, at 3:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Didn't an iLife DVD come with your Mac?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Gavin wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 When downgrading to Snow Leopard, would I be able to take the iLife apps 
 that came preinstalled with Lion and copy them to Snow Leopard like I can 
 with any other application? I don't see the point of having to buy iLife all 
 over again just because I'm reformatting my hard disk.
 
 Regards,
 
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RE: Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

2011-10-13 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

They stopped including DVD's with the 2011 models in all countries,
unfortunately. The good news is, when you reformat your mac, your iLife
purchase are tied to your app store account, so you can just redownload them
again, unless you're going back to snow leopard for some unexplainable
reason.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gavin
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

Hi Ricardo,

I've just double-checked my Mac's box. There appears to be a disk-sized
sleeve included, but it has no disk in it. Whether this is because I have a
2011 MacBook Pro, or because the DVD's aren't included with Macs in South
Africa, or even because of an error on the part of the company I ordered
this machine from, I do not know.

Regards,

Gavin
On 13 Oct 2011, at 3:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Didn't an iLife DVD come with your Mac?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Gavin wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 When downgrading to Snow Leopard, would I be able to take the iLife apps
that came preinstalled with Lion and copy them to Snow Leopard like I can
with any other application? I don't see the point of having to buy iLife all
over again just because I'm reformatting my hard disk.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread David Eagle
Voice Over not starting at start up? I'm not finding that on my
machine. It's always started up fine.

On 13/10/2011, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote:
 Um.. I don't know how that song got attached to my previous post. Am very,
 very confused. If it went through, and you like
 it, I guess that's OK, but I didn't attach anything deliberately. I wonder
 if my computer is possessed! I'm tripple checking
 this message, and there definitely are not any attachments at the time I'm
 hitting send. If another one goes through, then I
 guess I've got problems I need to investigate once I've had sleep. Anyway,
 sorry for any confusion; I'm definitely not trying
 to cause any problems, and even without the song, I stand by my comments
 about lion.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:31 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.

 I agree. I think the com.apple.doc.extra thing may have been resolved, but
 VO running at start-up seems to be hit or miss
 now, and I certainly can't find any other improvements that make me want to
 officially switch to Lion. I also noticed that
 Pianopub still isn't read accurately under lion while it reads great in snow
 leopard. In fact, the only thing I like better
 in lion than snow leopard is the way skype contacts are read. I have no clue
 what the difference is; so far as I can tell,
 I'm running the same version of skype under both operating systems, but it
 just reads slightly better under lion; none of
 those favorites checkboxes and stuff. Apart from that, though, I still have
 absolutely no desire to run lion, and will
 continue using Snow Leopard as long as it works and meets my needs.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

 Yeah, it still seems like they're sidestepping a lot of the issues that VO
 has, such as the freaky pitch changes with the
 Nuance voices and the annoying Safari busy messages are still there too
 when doing easy tasks like reading forum posts in
 Samnet and such. Speaking of Samnet, I know this is OT but, has anybody with
 Samnet accounts tried using the socializer with
 Chrome? I'm thinking of giving Chrome another chance and I'm not too happy
 that I can't change my screen name with Safari.
 And I say another chance because last time I used Chrome it was completely
 inaccessible. Since this is off topic, just write
 me off list about it please and thanks.

 Shawn

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trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Goodin, Donna
Hi all,

Can anyone help with this?

I went into ICloud settings on my phone, and entered the address I wanted to 
create.  I was never prompted for a password, and when I sent an email to that 
address, it came back as undeliverable.  Now, when I turn on and off mail in 
iCloud, I am no longer prompted to create an email address.  So how do I set up 
my me.com address?
TIA,
Donna

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screwed up with iCloud and iOS 5 Help!

2011-10-13 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Help!
I updated my iPad2 first. Went through the sign in process, and miss the button 
that said sign in with your Mobleme account first. I signed in with my iTunes 
account. I cannot get my Moblme settings to sync. It asks me to create an 
account, not sign in. I also receive a backup failed message when I try to 
backup. On my iPhone 4, I followed the instructions correctly, but get the same 
errors. Help!

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Re: ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn

2011-10-13 Thread Christine Grassman
I cannot locate any podcasts after episode 24 from 10/1.
Christine


Sent from my iPhone

On 13/10/2011, at 5:15, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear listers,
 For anyone interested, I was pleasantly surprised by the arrival of the 
 latest podcast called VoiceOverOn. A few very well informed people, will talk 
 you through what is new in iOS 5, they inform you about iCloud which is also 
 mac related, and because one of the guys is a beta tester, you get sort of an 
 inside report on how Apple handles feedback in the mobile area. If you're 
 interested in ios 5, you plan on updating and want to know what's coming etc, 
 I would recommend giving it a listen. The podcast is well done, clean, and in 
 easy tempo. Very nice to hear, even if your native language is not English. 
 If you want to subscribe to the podcast feed, and you want to hear previous 
 episodes as well, you can subscribe in itunes by putting the source table on 
 podcasts, which is the fifth row, move to the right to the search field, type 
 in VoiceOverOn which is all one word, hit enter, and then in the right pane, 
 verrify that itunes found the podcast, hit subscribe, let it download the 
 latest episode and you can start listening.
 Paul.
 
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Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Justin Ekis
Hi Donna,

As far as I can tell, your password for iCloud mail is just the password for 
your apple ID. I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think It's just a 
part of your iCloud account and probably can't have a different password for 
technical reasons. If you look in the mail app, you'll probably have a message 
welcoming you to iCloud mail. This means you are all set.

I also had the same problem with sending a test message to my new address. I 
don't know what is causing it, but when I went to twitter and changed my email 
address with them, I received the verification message from twitter just fine. 
I did some investigating and it seems that there is a problem with my current 
email provider. the undeliverable error message came from them, not from the 
iCloud server. I'm wondering if the same kind of thing is happening here.

Sorry I couldn't be any more help.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:

Hi all,

Can anyone help with this?

I went into ICloud settings on my phone, and entered the address I wanted to 
create.  I was never prompted for a password, and when I sent an email to that 
address, it came back as undeliverable.  Now, when I turn on and off mail in 
iCloud, I am no longer prompted to create an email address.  So how do I set up 
my me.com address?
TIA,
Donna

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Hi

2011-10-13 Thread Gena Harper

Hi Neil,

I just wanted to say hi and that it was nice to meet you even though we 
never really met.


It was fun talking with you on Skype.  It seemed like we've known each other 
for years.


Thank you for arranging for Martin - he was such a pleasure.  Also, thank 
you for arranging the lovely hotel.  It was a wonderful, comfortable place. 
The staff was so great!!!


How is your wife doing?

Mike and I had a wonderful time.  The trip still seems completely magical to 
me.  I'm making sure to continue to think about it and how lovely it was.


What are you working on these days?

I'm working on talking with all my clients about what the prognosis is for 
the world stock markets and to determine if we need to make any portfolio 
changes.


Hope all is well with you.
Take care,
Gena

- Original Message - 
From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: Recieving a refund for an app that doesn't work with VO


I've personally had this, just call Apple, speak with someone there, tell 
them that the app doesn't work with VO. you will need to have firstly have 
contacted the app developer to ask them to implement VO functionality, only 
if they say no, can you ask for a refund.



Regards,

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On 31 Aug 2011, at 23:29, Dawn Benbow wrote:

Hi everyone,

I heard someone mention on another list that wasn't actually Apple related 
in any way, that you can get a refund if you purchase an app and aren't able 
to access it with VO. Is this true? If so, how do you do this? Thanks very 
much.



Dawn Benbow

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Re: Anyone else having issues upgrading to IOS5 on their IPhones?

2011-10-13 Thread Christina
I kept getting the cannot restore error message.  Then I had a thought.  I went 
into my app switcher and made sure to close everything.  Then my iPhone 
upgraded just fine.  I should have done that to begin with but sometimes I 
forget about it.  I felt dumb for not doing that to begin with even if it was 
purely by chance that closing my apps in the app switcher fixed the problem.  I 
realize I may have just got lucky.


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RE: Hi

2011-10-13 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

Did you mean to send that to macvisionaries? If so, it's completely off
topic.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gena Harper
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hi

Hi Neil,

I just wanted to say hi and that it was nice to meet you even though we
never really met.

It was fun talking with you on Skype.  It seemed like we've known each other
for years.

Thank you for arranging for Martin - he was such a pleasure.  Also, thank
you for arranging the lovely hotel.  It was a wonderful, comfortable place. 
The staff was so great!!!

How is your wife doing?

Mike and I had a wonderful time.  The trip still seems completely magical to
me.  I'm making sure to continue to think about it and how lovely it was.

What are you working on these days?

I'm working on talking with all my clients about what the prognosis is for
the world stock markets and to determine if we need to make any portfolio
changes.

Hope all is well with you.
Take care,
Gena

- Original Message -
From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: Recieving a refund for an app that doesn't work with VO


I've personally had this, just call Apple, speak with someone there, tell 
them that the app doesn't work with VO. you will need to have firstly have 
contacted the app developer to ask them to implement VO functionality, only 
if they say no, can you ask for a refund.


Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com

URL: - www.talknav.com
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Phone: - +44  844 999 4199



On 31 Aug 2011, at 23:29, Dawn Benbow wrote:

Hi everyone,

I heard someone mention on another list that wasn't actually Apple related 
in any way, that you can get a refund if you purchase an app and aren't able

to access it with VO. Is this true? If so, how do you do this? Thanks very 
much.


Dawn Benbow

email:d-ben...@live.com
Messanger:  d.ben...@sbcglobal.net
Messanger:  d-ben...@live.com
Twitter:  DawnAndBaskin
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Re: screwed up with iCloud and iOS 5 Help!

2011-10-13 Thread Alex Hall
I'm not sure about the errors, but you can go to setting  iCloud,
select your account, and delete it. Then sign in with the MobileMe
settings instead.

On 10/13/11, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
 Help!
 I updated my iPad2 first. Went through the sign in process, and miss the
 button that said sign in with your Mobleme account first. I signed in with
 my iTunes account. I cannot get my Moblme settings to sync. It asks me to
 create an account, not sign in. I also receive a backup failed message when
 I try to backup. On my iPhone 4, I followed the instructions correctly, but
 get the same errors. Help!

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Re: ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn

2011-10-13 Thread Jenny Wood
Not seeing it here either.  Looking forward to listening to it when it does 
become available though. :-) 

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On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:

 I cannot locate any podcasts after episode 24 from 10/1.
 Christine
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 13/10/2011, at 5:15, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear listers,
 For anyone interested, I was pleasantly surprised by the arrival of the 
 latest podcast called VoiceOverOn. A few very well informed people, will 
 talk you through what is new in iOS 5, they inform you about iCloud which is 
 also mac related, and because one of the guys is a beta tester, you get sort 
 of an inside report on how Apple handles feedback in the mobile area. If 
 you're interested in ios 5, you plan on updating and want to know what's 
 coming etc, I would recommend giving it a listen. The podcast is well done, 
 clean, and in easy tempo. Very nice to hear, even if your native language is 
 not English. If you want to subscribe to the podcast feed, and you want to 
 hear previous episodes as well, you can subscribe in itunes by putting the 
 source table on podcasts, which is the fifth row, move to the right to the 
 search field, type in VoiceOverOn which is all one word, hit enter, and then 
 in the right pane, verrify that itunes found the podcast, hit subscribe, let 
 it download the latest episode and you can start listening.
 Paul.
 
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IOS 5 update questions

2011-10-13 Thread Christine Grassman
How long did everything take from start to finish? Also, is it normal for 
iTunes to have no windoes once the update begins? It says not to interrupt, but 
what if happenstance dictates an interruption, though unintended? Will thi 
result in damage of any kind? Just paranoid . . . :)

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Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, let me tell all y'all the real weird thing that just happened to me.  I 
padded in here to use my Mac to check my e-mail; and, when I pressed the 
control key to bring my machine out of screen saver, I got Screen saver busy 
over and over and my fan went hyper on me.  I had to do a hard reset.

Anybody else noticed that?


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On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:04 AM, David Eagle wrote:

 Voice Over not starting at start up? I'm not finding that on my
 machine. It's always started up fine.
 
 On 13/10/2011, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote:
 Um.. I don't know how that song got attached to my previous post. Am very,
 very confused. If it went through, and you like
 it, I guess that's OK, but I didn't attach anything deliberately. I wonder
 if my computer is possessed! I'm tripple checking
 this message, and there definitely are not any attachments at the time I'm
 hitting send. If another one goes through, then I
 guess I've got problems I need to investigate once I've had sleep. Anyway,
 sorry for any confusion; I'm definitely not trying
 to cause any problems, and even without the song, I stand by my comments
 about lion.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:31 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.
 
 I agree. I think the com.apple.doc.extra thing may have been resolved, but
 VO running at start-up seems to be hit or miss
 now, and I certainly can't find any other improvements that make me want to
 officially switch to Lion. I also noticed that
 Pianopub still isn't read accurately under lion while it reads great in snow
 leopard. In fact, the only thing I like better
 in lion than snow leopard is the way skype contacts are read. I have no clue
 what the difference is; so far as I can tell,
 I'm running the same version of skype under both operating systems, but it
 just reads slightly better under lion; none of
 those favorites checkboxes and stuff. Apart from that, though, I still have
 absolutely no desire to run lion, and will
 continue using Snow Leopard as long as it works and meets my needs.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.
 
 Yeah, it still seems like they're sidestepping a lot of the issues that VO
 has, such as the freaky pitch changes with the
 Nuance voices and the annoying Safari busy messages are still there too
 when doing easy tasks like reading forum posts in
 Samnet and such. Speaking of Samnet, I know this is OT but, has anybody with
 Samnet accounts tried using the socializer with
 Chrome? I'm thinking of giving Chrome another chance and I'm not too happy
 that I can't change my screen name with Safari.
 And I say another chance because last time I used Chrome it was completely
 inaccessible. Since this is off topic, just write
 me off list about it please and thanks.
 
 Shawn
 
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Re: IOS 5 update questions

2011-10-13 Thread Chris Blouch
It took a good 30 minutes which kind of surprised me. Apparently it 
fully wipes and reloads the phone OS and then restores all your apps and 
data from the iTunes backup. This restore runs in the background so you 
can keep the phone tethered and use it while the rest of your media 
comes back. I don't recall previous updates wiping everything out like this.


CB

On 10/13/11 2:01 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

How long did everything take from start to finish? Also, is it normal for 
iTunes to have no windoes once the update begins? It says not to interrupt, but 
what if happenstance dictates an interruption, though unintended? Will thi 
result in damage of any kind? Just paranoid . . . :)



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RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Bill Holton
So exactly what kind of pictures are on your screensaver that causes the Mac
to catch such a fever?  grin

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

 

Well, let me tell all y'all the real weird thing that just happened to me.
I padded in here to use my Mac to check my e-mail; and, when I pressed the
control key to bring my machine out of screen saver, I got Screen saver
busy over and over and my fan went hyper on me.  I had to do a hard reset.

 

Anybody else noticed that?

 

 

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On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:04 AM, David Eagle wrote:





Voice Over not starting at start up? I'm not finding that on my
machine. It's always started up fine.

On 13/10/2011, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote:



Um.. I don't know how that song got attached to my previous post. Am very,

very confused. If it went through, and you like

it, I guess that's OK, but I didn't attach anything deliberately. I wonder

if my computer is possessed! I'm tripple checking

this message, and there definitely are not any attachments at the time I'm

hitting send. If another one goes through, then I

guess I've got problems I need to investigate once I've had sleep. Anyway,

sorry for any confusion; I'm definitely not trying

to cause any problems, and even without the song, I stand by my comments

about lion.

 

-Original Message-

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:31 AM

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.

 

I agree. I think the com.apple.doc.extra thing may have been resolved, but

VO running at start-up seems to be hit or miss

now, and I certainly can't find any other improvements that make me want to

officially switch to Lion. I also noticed that

Pianopub still isn't read accurately under lion while it reads great in snow

leopard. In fact, the only thing I like better

in lion than snow leopard is the way skype contacts are read. I have no clue

what the difference is; so far as I can tell,

I'm running the same version of skype under both operating systems, but it

just reads slightly better under lion; none of

those favorites checkboxes and stuff. Apart from that, though, I still have

absolutely no desire to run lion, and will

continue using Snow Leopard as long as it works and meets my needs.

 

-Original Message-

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:57 PM

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

 

Yeah, it still seems like they're sidestepping a lot of the issues that VO

has, such as the freaky pitch changes with the

Nuance voices and the annoying Safari busy messages are still there too

when doing easy tasks like reading forum posts in

Samnet and such. Speaking of Samnet, I know this is OT but, has anybody with

Samnet accounts tried using the socializer with

Chrome? I'm thinking of giving Chrome another chance and I'm not too happy

that I can't change my screen name with Safari.

And I say another chance because last time I used Chrome it was completely

inaccessible. Since this is off topic, just write

me off list about it please and thanks.

 

Shawn

 

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Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Krister Ekstrom
For me, the upgrade was worthwhile as was the switch from SL. The upgrade fixed 
a bug with Launchpad that i had talked to Apple about so that's great.
/Krister

12 okt 2011 kl. 23:00 skrev Missy Hoppe:

 Well, for me at least, the lion update wasn't worthwhile. The midi issue 
 still hasn't been fixed. I'll test it a bit more,
 but it looks like I'll still be using SL as my primary OS for the time being.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mattingly
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:53 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.
 
 I'm downloading it too. I had to upgrade ITunes and then was trying to 
 upgrade my phone to IOS5. The phone upgrade didn't
 work and one solution was to upgrade your machine's O/S.  There's almost to 
 many upgrades for one day.
 
 
 Kev
 On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
 
 Am installing it now. I'm curious if they've fixed enough stuff that
 I'll be ready to fully migrate to lion, or if I'll just want to continue 
 using SL on my main drive. I'll find out in a few
 minutes, hopefully.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:05 PM
 To: Mobile Access Access
 Cc: Macvisionaries
 Subject: Lion 10.72 is now available.
 
 Like the subject says.
 
 hth
 
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Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Strange, i have never had that issue.
/Krister

13 okt 2011 kl. 00:57 skrev Allison Mervis:

 It also looks like they still haven't fixed the issue of VO not launching on
 startup. Not a huge deal, but still an inconvenience.
 Allison
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:01 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.
 
 Well, for me at least, the lion update wasn't worthwhile. The midi issue
 still hasn't been fixed. I'll test it a bit more,
 but it looks like I'll still be using SL as my primary OS for the time
 being.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mattingly
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:53 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.
 
 I'm downloading it too. I had to upgrade ITunes and then was trying to
 upgrade my phone to IOS5. The phone upgrade didn't
 work and one solution was to upgrade your machine's O/S.  There's almost to
 many upgrades for one day.
 
 
 Kev
 On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
 
 Am installing it now. I'm curious if they've fixed enough stuff that
 I'll be ready to fully migrate to lion, or if I'll just want to continue
 using SL on my main drive. I'll find out in a few
 minutes, hopefully.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:05 PM
 To: Mobile Access Access
 Cc: Macvisionaries
 Subject: Lion 10.72 is now available.
 
 Like the subject says.
 
 hth
 
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 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
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Itunes 10.5 crashes on upgrade

2011-10-13 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I just ran Software Update and installed Itunes 10.5.  Now, when I try to open 
Itunes, it says This version of Itunes has not been correctly configured, and 
quits when I hit the okay button, which is the only choice.  No information 
about how to fix it, or what.  I'm running Snow Leopard on a MBP15 with 4G RAM 
 I had successfully been using Itunes 10.3 until I upgraded, and now I have 
Itunes nothing point nothing.  I'm getting SO sick of this.


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Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I could be sarchastic and reply, how the hell would I know?, but no.  I aint 
gonna do that.  the simple fact of the matter is that it happened, and, know 
what else?  This is the first time that happened ever.  Also, as an asside, I 
noticed that under 10.6, my Mac would start up and be fully usable in about 30 
seconds or so.  Now, it takes one minute and thirty seconds.  Safari does, at 
least for now, appear somewhat more stable though.


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On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

 So exactly what kind of pictures are on your screensaver that causes the Mac 
 to catch such a fever?  grin
  
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:19 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.
  
 Well, let me tell all y'all the real weird thing that just happened to me.  I 
 padded in here to use my Mac to check my e-mail; and, when I pressed the 
 control key to bring my machine out of screen saver, I got Screen saver 
 busy over and over and my fan went hyper on me.  I had to do a hard reset.
  
 Anybody else noticed that?
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
  
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
  
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:04 AM, David Eagle wrote:
 
 
 Voice Over not starting at start up? I'm not finding that on my
 machine. It's always started up fine.
 
 On 13/10/2011, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote:
 
 Um.. I don't know how that song got attached to my previous post. Am very,
 very confused. If it went through, and you like
 it, I guess that's OK, but I didn't attach anything deliberately. I wonder
 if my computer is possessed! I'm tripple checking
 this message, and there definitely are not any attachments at the time I'm
 hitting send. If another one goes through, then I
 guess I've got problems I need to investigate once I've had sleep. Anyway,
 sorry for any confusion; I'm definitely not trying
 to cause any problems, and even without the song, I stand by my comments
 about lion.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:31 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.
  
 I agree. I think the com.apple.doc.extra thing may have been resolved, but
 VO running at start-up seems to be hit or miss
 now, and I certainly can't find any other improvements that make me want to
 officially switch to Lion. I also noticed that
 Pianopub still isn't read accurately under lion while it reads great in snow
 leopard. In fact, the only thing I like better
 in lion than snow leopard is the way skype contacts are read. I have no clue
 what the difference is; so far as I can tell,
 I'm running the same version of skype under both operating systems, but it
 just reads slightly better under lion; none of
 those favorites checkboxes and stuff. Apart from that, though, I still have
 absolutely no desire to run lion, and will
 continue using Snow Leopard as long as it works and meets my needs.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.
  
 Yeah, it still seems like they're sidestepping a lot of the issues that VO
 has, such as the freaky pitch changes with the
 Nuance voices and the annoying Safari busy messages are still there too
 when doing easy tasks like reading forum posts in
 Samnet and such. Speaking of Samnet, I know this is OT but, has anybody with
 Samnet accounts tried using the socializer with
 Chrome? I'm thinking of giving Chrome another chance and I'm not too happy
 that I can't change my screen name with Safari.
 And I say another chance because last time I used Chrome it was completely
 inaccessible. Since this is off topic, just write
 me off list about it please and thanks.
  
 Shawn
  
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Can I stop the backup and begin it later without likelihood of a problem?

2011-10-13 Thread Christine Grassman
My phone is restoring from a back-up after an apparent successful upgrade to 
IOS 5. I must leave soon; can I hit stop and resume at home?
Christine

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Itunes 10.5 fail

2011-10-13 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I ended up going back to 10.3, restoring it as I have many times before, from 
my external backup.  I am *SO* glad Apple's OS is flexible enough to do that.


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Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Goodin, Donna
Hi Justin,

I think something's messed up.  I actually called tech support, and they said I 
had to have a mobile me account.  I signed into the ME site with my Apple ID, 
but that didn't help either.  I think I'll go into the Apple store this weekend 
and see if they can sort it out.
Donna
On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:

 Hi Donna,
 
 As far as I can tell, your password for iCloud mail is just the password for 
 your apple ID. I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think It's just a 
 part of your iCloud account and probably can't have a different password for 
 technical reasons. If you look in the mail app, you'll probably have a 
 message welcoming you to iCloud mail. This means you are all set.
 
 I also had the same problem with sending a test message to my new address. I 
 don't know what is causing it, but when I went to twitter and changed my 
 email address with them, I received the verification message from twitter 
 just fine. I did some investigating and it seems that there is a problem with 
 my current email provider. the undeliverable error message came from them, 
 not from the iCloud server. I'm wondering if the same kind of thing is 
 happening here.
 
 Sorry I couldn't be any more help.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone help with this?
 
 I went into ICloud settings on my phone, and entered the address I wanted to 
 create.  I was never prompted for a password, and when I sent an email to 
 that address, it came back as undeliverable.  Now, when I turn on and off 
 mail in iCloud, I am no longer prompted to create an email address.  So how 
 do I set up my me.com address?
 TIA,
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Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Dan
Hello,
You do not need a MobileMe account.
I just set my iCloud account up and it works just fine. You need to confirm 
your email before it's written in stone. If someone else has the same 
someth...@me.com address, you will need to choose another one. Also, remember 
that this is a one-time thing. Once your email has been accepted, you cant use 
it again on another me account. Even if you delete your me account and start 
over, you will have to select another email address.
HTH.


Dan

On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote:

 Hi Justin,
 
 I think something's messed up.  I actually called tech support, and they said 
 I had to have a mobile me account.  I signed into the ME site with my Apple 
 ID, but that didn't help either.  I think I'll go into the Apple store this 
 weekend and see if they can sort it out.
 Donna
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 As far as I can tell, your password for iCloud mail is just the password for 
 your apple ID. I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think It's just 
 a part of your iCloud account and probably can't have a different password 
 for technical reasons. If you look in the mail app, you'll probably have a 
 message welcoming you to iCloud mail. This means you are all set.
 
 I also had the same problem with sending a test message to my new address. I 
 don't know what is causing it, but when I went to twitter and changed my 
 email address with them, I received the verification message from twitter 
 just fine. I did some investigating and it seems that there is a problem 
 with my current email provider. the undeliverable error message came from 
 them, not from the iCloud server. I'm wondering if the same kind of thing is 
 happening here.
 
 Sorry I couldn't be any more help.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone help with this?
 
 I went into ICloud settings on my phone, and entered the address I wanted to 
 create.  I was never prompted for a password, and when I sent an email to 
 that address, it came back as undeliverable.  Now, when I turn on and off 
 mail in iCloud, I am no longer prompted to create an email address.  So how 
 do I set up my me.com address?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Goodin, Donna
Thanks, Dan.  It looks like it's been accepted, i.e. when I go into my icloud 
account, it shows up as an email address, but I can't send any mail to it.  
I've tried from two different addresses, and  both messages come back as 
undeliverable.  Also, when I open Mail on my phone, I get an error message that 
says that either the user name or password is incorrect, and I'm certain that 
this is not the case.  Among other things, I've re-entered it several times 
just to be sure.  any thoughts?
Thanks,
Donna
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Dan wrote:

 Hello,
 You do not need a MobileMe account.
 I just set my iCloud account up and it works just fine. You need to confirm 
 your email before it's written in stone. If someone else has the same 
 someth...@me.com address, you will need to choose another one. Also, remember 
 that this is a one-time thing. Once your email has been accepted, you cant 
 use it again on another me account. Even if you delete your me account and 
 start over, you will have to select another email address.
 HTH.
 
 
 Dan
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
 
 Hi Justin,
 
 I think something's messed up.  I actually called tech support, and they 
 said I had to have a mobile me account.  I signed into the ME site with my 
 Apple ID, but that didn't help either.  I think I'll go into the Apple store 
 this weekend and see if they can sort it out.
 Donna
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 As far as I can tell, your password for iCloud mail is just the password 
 for your apple ID. I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think It's 
 just a part of your iCloud account and probably can't have a different 
 password for technical reasons. If you look in the mail app, you'll 
 probably have a message welcoming you to iCloud mail. This means you are 
 all set.
 
 I also had the same problem with sending a test message to my new address. 
 I don't know what is causing it, but when I went to twitter and changed my 
 email address with them, I received the verification message from twitter 
 just fine. I did some investigating and it seems that there is a problem 
 with my current email provider. the undeliverable error message came from 
 them, not from the iCloud server. I'm wondering if the same kind of thing 
 is happening here.
 
 Sorry I couldn't be any more help.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone help with this?
 
 I went into ICloud settings on my phone, and entered the address I wanted 
 to create.  I was never prompted for a password, and when I sent an email 
 to that address, it came back as undeliverable.  Now, when I turn on and 
 off mail in iCloud, I am no longer prompted to create an email address.  So 
 how do I set up my me.com address?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Dan
Hello,
See if you can remove the iCloud account. It's the last option in the settings 
menu where you set all that stuff up. Just make sure it's the iCloud account.
HTH.

Dan

On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote:

 Thanks, Dan.  It looks like it's been accepted, i.e. when I go into my icloud 
 account, it shows up as an email address, but I can't send any mail to it.  
 I've tried from two different addresses, and  both messages come back as 
 undeliverable.  Also, when I open Mail on my phone, I get an error message 
 that says that either the user name or password is incorrect, and I'm certain 
 that this is not the case.  Among other things, I've re-entered it several 
 times just to be sure.  any thoughts?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Dan wrote:
 
 Hello,
 You do not need a MobileMe account.
 I just set my iCloud account up and it works just fine. You need to confirm 
 your email before it's written in stone. If someone else has the same 
 someth...@me.com address, you will need to choose another one. Also, 
 remember that this is a one-time thing. Once your email has been accepted, 
 you cant use it again on another me account. Even if you delete your me 
 account and start over, you will have to select another email address.
 HTH.
 
 
 Dan
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
 
 Hi Justin,
 
 I think something's messed up.  I actually called tech support, and they 
 said I had to have a mobile me account.  I signed into the ME site with my 
 Apple ID, but that didn't help either.  I think I'll go into the Apple 
 store this weekend and see if they can sort it out.
 Donna
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 As far as I can tell, your password for iCloud mail is just the password 
 for your apple ID. I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think It's 
 just a part of your iCloud account and probably can't have a different 
 password for technical reasons. If you look in the mail app, you'll 
 probably have a message welcoming you to iCloud mail. This means you are 
 all set.
 
 I also had the same problem with sending a test message to my new address. 
 I don't know what is causing it, but when I went to twitter and changed my 
 email address with them, I received the verification message from twitter 
 just fine. I did some investigating and it seems that there is a problem 
 with my current email provider. the undeliverable error message came from 
 them, not from the iCloud server. I'm wondering if the same kind of thing 
 is happening here.
 
 Sorry I couldn't be any more help.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone help with this?
 
 I went into ICloud settings on my phone, and entered the address I wanted 
 to create.  I was never prompted for a password, and when I sent an email 
 to that address, it came back as undeliverable.  Now, when I turn on and 
 off mail in iCloud, I am no longer prompted to create an email address.  
 So how do I set up my me.com address?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented anywhere. If 
you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate from mailbox list to 
message list to message content, use control-tab. At least as far as I'm 
concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that purpose. I'm thinking this could 
have something to do with Mail using Webkit. Just a guess, though.

HTh,
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Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Brett C.
I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread as 
well.

Brett C.

On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented anywhere. 
 If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate from mailbox list 
 to message list to message content, use control-tab. At least as far as I'm 
 concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that purpose. I'm thinking this could 
 have something to do with Mail using Webkit. Just a guess, though.
 
 HTh,
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Re: Can I stop the backup and begin it later without likelihood of a problem?

2011-10-13 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

Its probably too late now, but no, I really wouldn't do that if I were
you. iTunes isn't always 100% truethfull about what its doing  what
stage its at in the process - e.g. It says its restoring the firmware
when its actually upgrading it, so I really wouldn't feel confident
enough to remove the device half way through an upgrade.
You could be lucky though, but if not, you'll probably have a broken
phone until you can restore again.

Cheers,
Ben.

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 My phone is restoring from a back-up after an apparent successful upgrade to
 IOS 5. I must leave soon; can I hit stop and resume at home?
 Christine

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Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Talking about restarting, after I upgraded last night, I was putting on my 
headphones so as not to disturb anyone and my machine did a really weird thing 
that I thought a Mac would never do. When I put the headphones on, I 
experienced my sounds and voice over skipping like a broken record or scratched 
CD. I thought for sure it was gonna crash, so I ended up restarting and sounds 
and Voice Over was normal again. Anyone have any ideas of what's happening?

Shawn

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All is well! Iphone back and running!

2011-10-13 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi all!
Well my local Apple store sorted the phone in 10 minutes and when I plugged it 
into the Mac the backup just started and put all stuff back!
And so I put the next Iphone on and its done the lot in under half a hour!
Talk about different experience's Thanks for all your suggestions!
All the best!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

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Fwd: All is well! Iphone back and running!

2011-10-13 Thread Red.Falcon


Begin forwarded message:

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 Date: 13 October 2011 22:42:47 GMT+01:00
 To: mac access mac-acc...@mac-access.net, macvisionaries group 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com, Mobile Access 
 mobileacc...@googlegroups.com
 Bcc: Red.Falcon M velocity.focu...@gmail.com
 Subject: All is well! Iphone back and running!
 
 Hi all!
 Well my local Apple store sorted the phone in 10 minutes and when I plugged 
 it into the Mac the backup just started and put all stuff back!
 And so I put the next Iphone on and its done the lot in under half a hour!
 Talk about different experience's Thanks for all your suggestions!
 All the best!
 Colin
 Qapla!
 
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
 

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RE: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Kawal, et al.

I decided to move all of my Contacts, Calendar Appointments, etc from my
beloved Mobile Me account to the iCloud earlier today.  

Instead of using either my Mac, PC, or IOS device, I launched my browser of
choice, Internet Explorer 8 (Windows 7), and pointed it to:
http://me.com/move

I simply followed the on-screen prompts and all went perfectly.  

For those of us who wish to use iCloud data with Outlook 2007 or 2010, we
must install the iCloud Control Panel.

While it is not necessary to remove the Mobile Me Control Panel from Windows
7, I suggest that you do so after successfully configuring the iCloud
Control Panel for Windows 7.

Also, I helped a friend make the move from Mobile Me to iCloud; I used
VoiceOver with Safari on her Mac to move her account.

Mark




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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:25 AM
To: mobileacc...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries
Subject: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

Hi All.

I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud.  I cloud website is not
accessible. Anyone else having this problem?

Kawal.

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RE: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
Kawal,

The images to which you are referring are the various things you are
choosing to move such as Contacts, Calendar, etc.  

I believe VoiceOver reads parts of these images as clickable.  It can be
extremely frustrating, to say the least.  

Mark




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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:38 AM
To: mobileacc...@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionaries
Subject: Re: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I
Cloud.

OK, when I sign in with my me.com ID, it asks me to move my data. I press
the move button. I get taken to the website. put in my username and
password, check the box and sign in. I get taken to the I Cloud Website.
There is one button, a pop up button with no label and then Image image
image image. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 13 Oct 2011, at 09:30 AM, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I can look at my contacts just fine, so what's the problem exactly?
 
 I'm a bit confused. That wasn't a very elaborate email, except to say that
the iCLoud site appeared inaccessible.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Yup,
 
 the iCloud site is an accessibility nightmare.  But my contacts are
there.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud.  I cloud website is not
accessible. Anyone else having this problem?
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: program my husband wrote

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Paul.
I had to find out. My husband said he used Visual Basic. He said he was not 
familiar with Python. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

 What language did he use? Python is a great cross-platform language
 that he may want to look into. Using the wxPython gui library,
 accessible guis for programs should be easy to design. I doubt
 anything written for something as old as an Apple II would run on a
 modern system, but I could be wrong.
 
 On 10/12/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi guys.
 This is not a sales announcement or anything. My husband wrote this program
 for me which right now runs under Windows. He used to write custom programs
 for small businesses for both the Apple 2 and the PC.
 
 I got tired of counting lines and finding page numbers in brf files. As a
 proofreader, I have to do reports and turn that information into
 transcribers.
 
 I'm not wild about installing Windows on my Mac just to run this program.
 Excuse my ignorance here, but if he were to rewrite the program like it was
 going to run on the old Apple 2, would it run under Lion? I know that may
 sound weird, but if he had a 2 E here he would be able to write programs for
 it, so I thought I would find out if that knowledge could be used to rewrite
 this program without a lot of trouble. If not, I can either put Windows on
 here or do this some other way.
 
 Regards,
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Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Guys.
dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to read 
these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and tried it. It 
worked.

Regards,
Gigi

On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote:

 I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread as 
 well.
 
 Brett C.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented anywhere. 
 If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate from mailbox list 
 to message list to message content, use control-tab. At least as far as I'm 
 concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that purpose. I'm thinking this 
 could have something to do with Mail using Webkit. Just a guess, though.
 
 HTh,
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Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Alex Hall
Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was
doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few
days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that
maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would!

On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Guys.
 dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to
 read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and tried
 it. It worked.

 Regards,
 Gigi

 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote:

 I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread
 as well.

 Brett C.

 On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented
 anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate from
 mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At
 least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that purpose.
 I'm thinking this could have something to do with Mail using Webkit. Just
 a guess, though.

 HTh,
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Re: program my husband wrote

2011-10-13 Thread Alex Hall
Well Python is cross-platform and is easy to use. Tell him from me that:
Python is object-oriented, using functions and classes. In Python,
absolutely everything is an object, even methods. I could therefore
have an array of function names and call one by using funcs[2](args).
This is very powerful once you get used to it.
It is also scripted and loosely typed. This is valid:
a=5
a=hello
Note the lack of semicolons? A semicolon is used to split a line into
multiple commands, like:
print(a); return False
Python is also indentation-based and does not use braces. If you
always indent code anyway, this actually saves a step. Learn more than
you ever wanted to know at http://www.python.org.

On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Paul.
 I had to find out. My husband said he used Visual Basic. He said he was not
 familiar with Python.

 Regards,
 Gigi

 On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

 What language did he use? Python is a great cross-platform language
 that he may want to look into. Using the wxPython gui library,
 accessible guis for programs should be easy to design. I doubt
 anything written for something as old as an Apple II would run on a
 modern system, but I could be wrong.

 On 10/12/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi guys.
 This is not a sales announcement or anything. My husband wrote this
 program
 for me which right now runs under Windows. He used to write custom
 programs
 for small businesses for both the Apple 2 and the PC.

 I got tired of counting lines and finding page numbers in brf files. As a
 proofreader, I have to do reports and turn that information into
 transcribers.

 I'm not wild about installing Windows on my Mac just to run this program.
 Excuse my ignorance here, but if he were to rewrite the program like it
 was
 going to run on the old Apple 2, would it run under Lion? I know that may
 sound weird, but if he had a 2 E here he would be able to write programs
 for
 it, so I thought I would find out if that knowledge could be used to
 rewrite
 this program without a lot of trouble. If not, I can either put Windows
 on
 here or do this some other way.

 Regards,
 Gigi


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Skype Not Ringing.

2011-10-13 Thread Georges Zaynoun

Hi!

Since I updated to ios5 on my ipad2 yesterday when somebody calls me 
they hear the ringing signal but I hear no ringing tone noor any 
indication in text or the like, I have uninstalled skype and 
reinstalled it severral times but the results are the same, 
notifications are on I must add, thanks.


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Signatures in Different Mail Accounts?

2011-10-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, guys,

As you will find out, I've figured out how to use signatures in Mail. However, 
I don't know how to make them apply globally to all mail accounts. When I try 
adding a new signature for all accounts, the popup menu is dimmed. If I try for 
an individual account, it works fine. Is there a way to duplicate the signature 
table over to different accounts?

Thanks,
Teresa

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Growl Mail

2011-10-13 Thread Jeff Berwick
Hi all,

I just upgraded to Growl 1.3.  I was getting a message that incompatible 
plugins were being disabled in mail.  It was referring to growl mail.  As a 
result, I ran the uninstaller, removed growl mail, growl safari and hardware 
growler.  After that, I installed Growl 1.3.  Unfortunately, I still get this 
message.  Anybody know how I can stop it?

Thx,
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Re: screwed up with iCloud and iOS 5 Help!

2011-10-13 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
Tried that. Received a message saying to go to me.com to move MobleMe to 
iCloud. I left it transferring to iCloud but receive same messages on iPad and 
iPhone.
On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

 I'm not sure about the errors, but you can go to setting  iCloud,
 select your account, and delete it. Then sign in with the MobileMe
 settings instead.
 
 On 10/13/11, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
 Help!
 I updated my iPad2 first. Went through the sign in process, and miss the
 button that said sign in with your Mobleme account first. I signed in with
 my iTunes account. I cannot get my Moblme settings to sync. It asks me to
 create an account, not sign in. I also receive a backup failed message when
 I try to backup. On my iPhone 4, I followed the instructions correctly, but
 get the same errors. Help!
 
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Re: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
It isn't working for me. I keep seeing moving data. That was 8 hours agai.
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

 Hello Kawal, et al.
 
 I decided to move all of my Contacts, Calendar Appointments, etc from my
 beloved Mobile Me account to the iCloud earlier today.  
 
 Instead of using either my Mac, PC, or IOS device, I launched my browser of
 choice, Internet Explorer 8 (Windows 7), and pointed it to:
 http://me.com/move
 
 I simply followed the on-screen prompts and all went perfectly.  
 
 For those of us who wish to use iCloud data with Outlook 2007 or 2010, we
 must install the iCloud Control Panel.
 
 While it is not necessary to remove the Mobile Me Control Panel from Windows
 7, I suggest that you do so after successfully configuring the iCloud
 Control Panel for Windows 7.
 
 Also, I helped a friend make the move from Mobile Me to iCloud; I used
 VoiceOver with Safari on her Mac to move her account.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:25 AM
 To: mobileacc...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries
 Subject: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.
 
 Hi All.
 
 I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud.  I cloud website is not
 accessible. Anyone else having this problem?
 
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RE: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
You are absolutely correct, Theresa; and what a disappointing failure of
7.2.

The breaking of the Tab key as a navigation key in Mail was well documented
before the release.

Thank God for Control-Tab but I wouldn't get too used to it, were I you.
Sometimes it feels as though all the bug-reporting in the world makes no
difference.

Mark


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented anywhere.
If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate from mailbox list
to message list to message content, use control-tab. At least as far as I'm
concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that purpose. I'm thinking this
could have something to do with Mail using Webkit. Just a guess, though.

HTh,
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RE: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is
that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text
of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely
want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other messages in
the thread, you need to stop interacting with the current message no less
then twice.  Too many unnecessary keystrokes in my and several others'
opinion. 

Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was
doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few
days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that
maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would!

On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Guys.
 dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to
 read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and
tried
 it. It worked.

 Regards,
 Gigi

 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote:

 I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread
 as well.

 Brett C.

 On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented
 anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate
from
 mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At
 least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that
purpose.
 I'm thinking this could have something to do with Mail using Webkit.
Just
 a guess, though.

 HTh,
 Teresa

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RE: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
Hello,

It's been saying moving data for over 8 hours/  

OK:

1.
Assuming that you initiated the move from the web via Safari, Firefox,
Chrome, Internet Explorer, etc, closing the browser would make no difference
as all of this takes place at Apple's end of the proverbial connection so,
if you have not done so, go ahead and close all your devices down, including
your computer.  

2.
Restart your computer of choice and then point your browser of choice to
www.icloud.com and login with your username and password.  

You should then see any data was transferred from your Mobile Me account.  

3.
Assuming the following 2 steps go well, then begin logging into that same
account on your various devices.

Mark




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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

Hi:
It isn't working for me. I keep seeing moving data. That was 8 hours agai.
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

 Hello Kawal, et al.
 
 I decided to move all of my Contacts, Calendar Appointments, etc from my
 beloved Mobile Me account to the iCloud earlier today.  
 
 Instead of using either my Mac, PC, or IOS device, I launched my browser
of
 choice, Internet Explorer 8 (Windows 7), and pointed it to:
 http://me.com/move
 
 I simply followed the on-screen prompts and all went perfectly.  
 
 For those of us who wish to use iCloud data with Outlook 2007 or 2010, we
 must install the iCloud Control Panel.
 
 While it is not necessary to remove the Mobile Me Control Panel from
Windows
 7, I suggest that you do so after successfully configuring the iCloud
 Control Panel for Windows 7.
 
 Also, I helped a friend make the move from Mobile Me to iCloud; I used
 VoiceOver with Safari on her Mac to move her account.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:25 AM
 To: mobileacc...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries
 Subject: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.
 
 Hi All.
 
 I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud.  I cloud website is not
 accessible. Anyone else having this problem?
 
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Trouble with moving items dock

2011-10-13 Thread Traci
Hi all,

Lately, I'm having a hard time moving items to the dock.  Lol, I've 
successfully done this before, but just recently I must be messing up.

I'd appreciate some troubleshooting tips, or guesses on where I'm going wrong.

Thank you,
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Re: Trouble with moving items dock

2011-10-13 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Hi Tracy, i'm assuming you're wanting to do this on the mac.  IF you want to 
put anything  on the doc, find the folder, application, or whatever it  is you 
want to put on there, and hit command shift-t, hope this helps.  
On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Traci wrote:

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 Lately, I'm having a hard time moving items to the dock.  Lol, I've 
 successfully done this before, but just recently I must be messing up.
 
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Re: Trouble with moving items dock

2011-10-13 Thread Brett C.
If you would like to move an application to the doc, open the app, find it on 
the doc, use VO shift M to bring up a menu, open the options submenu and select 
add to doc.
If you want to have a folder on the doc, highlight the folder and use command 
shift T to add it.

Brett C.

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Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
All right.  Given that, what would you recommend as being the fastest way to 
move through message threads?  I find that when I'm focused on a message in the 
message window, and that message is part of a conversation, pressing return 
does not open all of the conversation.


Sincerely,
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On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

 The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is
 that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text
 of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely
 want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other messages in
 the thread, you need to stop interacting with the current message no less
 then twice.  Too many unnecessary keystrokes in my and several others'
 opinion. 
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2
 
 Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was
 doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few
 days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that
 maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would!
 
 On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Guys.
 dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to
 read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and
 tried
 it. It worked.
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote:
 
 I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread
 as well.
 
 Brett C.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented
 anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate
 from
 mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At
 least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that
 purpose.
 I'm thinking this could have something to do with Mail using Webkit.
 Just
 a guess, though.
 
 HTh,
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Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Chris Westbrook
Did Apple acknowledge the bug and/or give a reason for the change?  Control tab 
isn't listed under the keyboard shortcuts and really doesn't make any sense in 
my opinion.  Weird.
On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

 You are absolutely correct, Theresa; and what a disappointing failure of
 7.2.
 
 The breaking of the Tab key as a navigation key in Mail was well documented
 before the release.
 
 Thank God for Control-Tab but I wouldn't get too used to it, were I you.
 Sometimes it feels as though all the bug-reporting in the world makes no
 difference.
 
 Mark
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:07 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2
 
 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented anywhere.
 If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate from mailbox list
 to message list to message content, use control-tab. At least as far as I'm
 concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that purpose. I'm thinking this
 could have something to do with Mail using Webkit. Just a guess, though.
 
 HTh,
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Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Anne.
This Mac newbee discovered something that those of you who know what you're 
doing may not have discovered because I don't think you would mess around on 
the keyboard with as much I guess desperation. I discovered that although the 
tab doesn't work like it did before, it does in fact go from message to message 
once you have gotten into the message list. In fact I got frustrated because it 
kept going to the next one, and I was very glad to discover the VO J command or 
the return would get into the message.

I also, and I don't know if this is new or not, found a way to control how many 
lines to hear in a message preview. So, it sounds like you could do what you 
want by going into the preferences and setting the number of lines you want to 
hear for a message preview and use the tab key to go from message to message 
without interacting with the VO J key unless you want to. You may discover that 
what I am saying is not completely true, and if you do, please let me know. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

 The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is
 that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text
 of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely
 want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other messages in
 the thread, you need to stop interacting with the current message no less
 then twice.  Too many unnecessary keystrokes in my and several others'
 opinion. 
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2
 
 Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was
 doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few
 days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that
 maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would!
 
 On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Guys.
 dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to
 read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and
 tried
 it. It worked.
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote:
 
 I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread
 as well.
 
 Brett C.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented
 anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate
 from
 mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At
 least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that
 purpose.
 I'm thinking this could have something to do with Mail using Webkit.
 Just
 a guess, though.
 
 HTh,
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Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Guys.
I think this Mac newbee may have discovered something you experienced guys 
might not have thought of because you experienced guys would be less likely to 
mess around on the keyboard in desperation. I found that, although the tab 
didn't work like it did before, I could go from message to message with it. 
Also, I found that I could set how many lines I would hear in a preview. I went 
to preferences, I think it was. This means that, if I wanted to, I could get a 
quick review of the message before pressing VO J. I was glad to discover that 
VO J worked and that return would also take you into the message. I discovered 
all this by accident in my messing around on the keyboard trying to get to 
where I wanted to go. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 All right.  Given that, what would you recommend as being the fastest way to 
 move through message threads?  I find that when I'm focused on a message in 
 the message window, and that message is part of a conversation, pressing 
 return does not open all of the conversation.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
 The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is
 that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text
 of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely
 want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other messages in
 the thread, you need to stop interacting with the current message no less
 then twice.  Too many unnecessary keystrokes in my and several others'
 opinion. 
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2
 
 Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was
 doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few
 days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that
 maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would!
 
 On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Guys.
 dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to
 read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and
 tried
 it. It worked.
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote:
 
 I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread
 as well.
 
 Brett C.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented
 anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate
 from
 mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At
 least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that
 purpose.
 I'm thinking this could have something to do with Mail using Webkit.
 Just
 a guess, though.
 
 HTh,
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Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Sorry guys for sending information twice, but I did not know the first one got 
sent. 

Let me tell you guys that this Mac new bee just discovered another way to crash 
Mail. don't do what I did, or you might crash yours. 

I went into Trash because I decided to reply to a message I had just deleted. 
I've done this before and it was ok. However, this time, when I wrote the reply 
and pressed Send, Mail locked up., sort of I couldn't get it to send any 
messages, and I had no windows in Mail once I pressed Send. I could read 
messages. I finally shut down the computer, and I had to press the power key to 
do that. When I shut it down, Mail sent the messages right away, minus one of 
them that I thought was lost. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

 Hi Anne.
 This Mac newbee discovered something that those of you who know what you're 
 doing may not have discovered because I don't think you would mess around on 
 the keyboard with as much I guess desperation. I discovered that although the 
 tab doesn't work like it did before, it does in fact go from message to 
 message once you have gotten into the message list. In fact I got frustrated 
 because it kept going to the next one, and I was very glad to discover the VO 
 J command or the return would get into the message.
 
 I also, and I don't know if this is new or not, found a way to control how 
 many lines to hear in a message preview. So, it sounds like you could do what 
 you want by going into the preferences and setting the number of lines you 
 want to hear for a message preview and use the tab key to go from message to 
 message without interacting with the VO J key unless you want to. You may 
 discover that what I am saying is not completely true, and if you do, please 
 let me know. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
 The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is
 that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text
 of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely
 want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other messages in
 the thread, you need to stop interacting with the current message no less
 then twice.  Too many unnecessary keystrokes in my and several others'
 opinion. 
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2
 
 Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was
 doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few
 days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that
 maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would!
 
 On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Guys.
 dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to
 read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and
 tried
 it. It worked.
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote:
 
 I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread
 as well.
 
 Brett C.
 
 On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented
 anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate
 from
 mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At
 least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that
 purpose.
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 Just
 a guess, though.
 
 HTh,
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Mac for college

2011-10-13 Thread Louis Do
Hello. i am planning on purchasing a mac for my first year of college
next year. i am currently learning voiceover and I prefer it to the PC
screenreaders available. I have a few questions that hopefully you
kind folks can answer to help me make a more informed purchase.
1. What macbook would fit my needs? i will need to watch a lot of
videos, do reasearch, write long papers, and create spreadsheets or
powerpoints.
2. I heard that microsoft office is not accesible on the Mac. Is this
a true statement?
3. What equivalent mac softwares are available for powerpoint, word, and excell?
Thanks for your help,
Louis

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Re: Mac for college

2011-10-13 Thread Gavin
Hi Louis,

It sounds like a MacBook Air would be your best bet, though I don't know what 
kind of specs it has. I've also heard that the MacBook Air has a similar price 
to the 13 inch MacBook Pro, which you could also try. If you don't want to 
spend too much, you could also go for the ordinary MacBook model which, if my 
memory serves me correctly, is made out of a kind of plastic as opposed to the 
MacBook Pro, which is aluminium.

As far as equivalent software to Microsoft Office goes, Apple has a 
productivity suite called iWork that contains 3 applications. Pages, for word 
processing, Numbers, for spreadsheets, and Keynote, for creating presentations. 
It's very accessible with VoiceOver.

Hope this info heaps.

Regards,

Gavin


On 14 Oct 2011, at 5:25 AM, Louis Do wrote:

 Hello. i am planning on purchasing a mac for my first year of college
 next year. i am currently learning voiceover and I prefer it to the PC
 screenreaders available. I have a few questions that hopefully you
 kind folks can answer to help me make a more informed purchase.
 1. What macbook would fit my needs? i will need to watch a lot of
 videos, do reasearch, write long papers, and create spreadsheets or
 powerpoints.
 2. I heard that microsoft office is not accesible on the Mac. Is this
 a true statement?
 3. What equivalent mac softwares are available for powerpoint, word, and 
 excell?
 Thanks for your help,
 Louis
 
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Re: Mac for college

2011-10-13 Thread Louis Do
Yes, this is very useful information. I am leaning more towards the
macbook Pro. Are there reasons why the pro is better than the air or
vice versa?

On 10/13/11, Gavin g.batw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Louis,

 It sounds like a MacBook Air would be your best bet, though I don't know
 what kind of specs it has. I've also heard that the MacBook Air has a
 similar price to the 13 inch MacBook Pro, which you could also try. If you
 don't want to spend too much, you could also go for the ordinary MacBook
 model which, if my memory serves me correctly, is made out of a kind of
 plastic as opposed to the MacBook Pro, which is aluminium.

 As far as equivalent software to Microsoft Office goes, Apple has a
 productivity suite called iWork that contains 3 applications. Pages, for
 word processing, Numbers, for spreadsheets, and Keynote, for creating
 presentations. It's very accessible with VoiceOver.

 Hope this info heaps.

 Regards,

 Gavin


 On 14 Oct 2011, at 5:25 AM, Louis Do wrote:

 Hello. i am planning on purchasing a mac for my first year of college
 next year. i am currently learning voiceover and I prefer it to the PC
 screenreaders available. I have a few questions that hopefully you
 kind folks can answer to help me make a more informed purchase.
 1. What macbook would fit my needs? i will need to watch a lot of
 videos, do reasearch, write long papers, and create spreadsheets or
 powerpoints.
 2. I heard that microsoft office is not accesible on the Mac. Is this
 a true statement?
 3. What equivalent mac softwares are available for powerpoint, word, and
 excell?
 Thanks for your help,
 Louis

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